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[2017-01-02 03:49:31] Rado : speculating here
[2017-01-02 03:49:31] alejandromasari : mabye 400% interest rate annualized
[2017-01-02 03:49:47] weather b0y4 : is that rate on the entire position or on the collateral?
[2017-01-02 03:49:55] alejandromasari : entire position!!
[2017-01-02 03:50:01] thiago : alejandromasari: free to choose other exchange
[2017-01-02 03:50:13] weather b0y4 : thanks, ill stick with futures then
[2017-01-02 03:50:19] j8 : Rado: yeah it's a good reason to be trading at -0.25%, but not -0.5%
[2017-01-02 03:51:17] Rado : j8: is it -0.50% now?
[2017-01-02 03:51:29] j8 : no but it was more than that in the selloff
[2017-01-02 03:51:36] Rado : yes
[2017-01-02 03:51:44] Rado : because they needed to get a big position filled
[2017-01-02 03:51:56] Rado : triggered some other orders also
[2017-01-02 03:52:00] Rado : not sure
[2017-01-02 03:52:36] j8 : it's really not worth it to take a position for one funding payment. you have to plan for the next few
[2017-01-02 03:52:45] tradetime : damn thats a huge buy order, 200k contracts
[2017-01-02 03:53:12] weather b0y4 : new money hitting exchanges tomorrow is my reason for leveraging up now
[2017-01-02 03:53:26] alejandromasari : you can short the swap for the funding payment
[2017-01-02 03:53:27] weather b0y4 : hoping it wont backfire on me =)
[2017-01-02 03:53:29] alejandromasari : long the futures
[2017-01-02 03:54:08] Rado : j8: agreed
[2017-01-02 03:54:13] Rado : probably was something else
[2017-01-02 03:54:24] tradetime : dang the xbtusd market is like dead
[2017-01-02 03:54:28] odieoh : Banks closed in the US fyi tomorrow
[2017-01-02 03:54:30] tradetime : hasnt moved in a minute
[2017-01-02 03:54:52] JamesPolo : weather b0y4: how come ?
[2017-01-02 03:55:13] weather b0y4 : how come what?
[2017-01-02 03:55:29] Rado : By the way I think it's a good time to short now for the short term
[2017-01-02 03:55:30] JamesPolo : What do you mean by new money hitting exchanges tomo
[2017-01-02 03:55:37] Rado : China is at $40 premium
[2017-01-02 03:55:45] Rado : it will come down to $10-20
[2017-01-02 03:56:11] odieoh : he means people putting fiat into the crypto system
[2017-01-02 03:56:17] weather b0y4 : people depositing money onto exchanges who are buying into the rally because they saw btc on the news; bank wires credited to account on monday
[2017-01-02 03:56:27] nOgAnOo : BULLWHALE IS IN THE BUILDING
[2017-01-02 03:56:30] alejandromasari : tomorrow banks are closed
[2017-01-02 03:56:32] alejandromasari : lol
[2017-01-02 03:56:33] alejandromasari : holiday
[2017-01-02 03:56:37] weather b0y4 : ok then tuesday
[2017-01-02 03:57:23] Rado : nOgAnOo: that 32 contracts order yours?
[2017-01-02 03:57:30] Sheriff : The current price is lower than my entry price on a long, but im seeing a positive percent return on equity?
[2017-01-02 03:57:38] nOgAnOo : Hey man I lost my 3.50 yesterday shortin 960
[2017-01-02 03:57:45] nOgAnOo : My 10,000 dollar dream is crushed
[2017-01-02 03:57:54] nOgAnOo : You guys were right..
[2017-01-02 03:57:54] alejandromasari : guy don't short
[2017-01-02 03:57:57] l3f : lol at the 275k fomo guy
[2017-01-02 03:57:59] alejandromasari : guys*
[2017-01-02 03:58:26] nOgAnOo : l3f, that was 500k a moment ago hehe
[2017-01-02 03:59:48] zach719 : lmao why bitmex
[2017-01-02 03:59:55] zach719 : why u gotta dump like that
[2017-01-02 04:00:06] nOgAnOo : IT'S OVER
[2017-01-02 04:00:18] zach719 : nOgAnOo: whats over
[2017-01-02 04:00:27] nOgAnOo : The interest rate payment just happened
[2017-01-02 04:00:28] alejandromasari : we are done with the funding
[2017-01-02 04:00:34] alejandromasari : until tomorrow morning
[2017-01-02 04:00:40] zach719 : what do u guys mean
[2017-01-02 04:01:01] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2017-01-02 04:01:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 777 @ 7584.7
[2017-01-02 04:02:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 100 @ 1079.02
[2017-01-02 04:04:05] Sheriff : But really can anyone explain why PnL show as positive when the price has gone down on a long position?
[2017-01-02 04:04:11] rapidtrades : suop
[2017-01-02 04:04:18] ayy_lmao : mark price
[2017-01-02 04:04:22] alejandromasari : Sheriff: it is based on mark price
[2017-01-02 04:04:46] rapidtrades : anyone noticed javascript problems...like u cant type in chat and prices dont update
[2017-01-02 04:04:52] Sheriff : Which is different than the spot price that we see? @alejandromasari
[2017-01-02 04:04:52] tradetime : these markets move a little slower than I thought
[2017-01-02 04:04:53] alejandromasari : @Sheriff if your p&l is red it means you are losing
[2017-01-02 04:05:24] zach719 : tradetime: they only do at certain times
[2017-01-02 04:06:22] Sheriff : alejandromasari: Oh ok i see now. Unfortunate, i was seeing 5% positive PnL so i sold but i ended up losing actually because of the spot price i guess
[2017-01-02 04:06:25] rapidtrades : healthy premiums at okc but no premium here
[2017-01-02 04:06:31] rapidtrades : the rally gets stranger
[2017-01-02 04:07:36] j8 : okc premiums are down like 0.75% in a couple hours. swap is short term
[2017-01-02 04:08:04] alejandromasari : @tradetime another downside to futures is that it is more volatile and less liquid
[2017-01-02 04:08:38] rapidtrades : stop making shit up j8!
[2017-01-02 04:08:56] tradetime : does anyone do any market making here?
[2017-01-02 04:08:56] j8 : you're making shit up
[2017-01-02 04:09:04] Sheriff : alejandromasari: Is the immediate "realized PnL" that shows up after a trade due to a fee?
[2017-01-02 04:09:42] alejandromasari : Sheriff: correct, if you get filled as a maker (using limit orders) you get a credit
[2017-01-02 04:10:02] alejandromasari : @Sheriff liquidity credit
[2017-01-02 04:10:19] Sheriff : alejandromasari: Is there a certain percentage of the total position they use to calculate that?
[2017-01-02 04:10:35] alejandromasari : Sheriff: if you get filled as a maker you pay someone else the credit
[2017-01-02 04:10:57] alejandromasari : Sheriff: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2017-01-02 04:11:25] Sheriff : alejandromasari: Awesome. Thanks for the help man!
[2017-01-02 04:11:47] alejandromasari : Sheriff: you're welcome glad I can help
[2017-01-02 04:16:35] ayy_lmao : wait till funding shorters buy back lol
[2017-01-02 04:17:53] shery : bitmex is lagging behind
[2017-01-02 04:17:59] Sheriff : Hypothetically couldnt you just buy and sell limit orders over and over and rack up the maker payment?
[2017-01-02 04:18:13] alejandromasari : Sheriff: you can
[2017-01-02 04:18:15] ayy_lmao : thats how market makers work
[2017-01-02 04:18:22] laisee : thats called being a market maker
[2017-01-02 04:18:30] alejandromasari : Sheriff: you can create a bot that will buy and sell all day
[2017-01-02 04:18:40] Sheriff : Man i'm learning so much! Hahaha
[2017-01-02 04:18:52] Sheriff : Although i suppose at 0.025% you have to be dealing with huge volume huh
[2017-01-02 04:18:58] laisee : there is sample code on bitmex github site
[2017-01-02 04:18:58] alejandromasari : Sheriff: I have been trading for 8 years now
[2017-01-02 04:18:58] Sheriff : In order to make noticeable profit
[2017-01-02 04:19:23] alejandromasari : Sheriff: they do this to enourage liquidity
[2017-01-02 04:19:28] alejandromasari : encourage*
[2017-01-02 04:19:29] j8 : you take risk every time you take a position, and good traders will beat your bot if it's not smart enough
[2017-01-02 04:20:10] Sheriff : Gotcha.
[2017-01-02 04:21:46] Sheriff : Would any of you guys have a recommendation for a site or a book to browse to learn more about this kind of stuff? Trying to move past just the basics
[2017-01-02 04:29:23] tradetime : laisee: do you know if that sample code is already set up to work? or do we have to put variables in to make it work?
[2017-01-02 04:30:11] laisee : you have to add API keys and cutomize to target a market. Its not advised to use in trading as-is.
[2017-01-02 04:31:47] laisee : see instructions @ https://github.com/BitMEX/sample-market-maker
[2017-01-02 04:33:26] tradetime : yeah I saw it before.. unfortunately I'm not a programmer so I'm not that good at this stuff
[2017-01-02 04:35:03] MikeHunt : you guys reckon this might correct before 1100+ ?
[2017-01-02 04:35:04] j8 : it's not the bot for you then.. it's mostly an example of how to use the api, and a pretty good framework for getting started programming a bot
[2017-01-02 04:35:54] tradetime : are there any examples of a bot anywhere?
[2017-01-02 04:36:04] tradetime : like with actual values put into it, something that basically works out of the box?
[2017-01-02 04:36:22] MikeHunt : tradetime: google "bitcoin bots github"
[2017-01-02 04:38:08] j8 : non-programmers fear github
[2017-01-02 04:39:04] MikeHunt : j8: lol
[2017-01-02 04:40:15] ayy_lmao : time to squeeze bottom shorters
[2017-01-02 04:40:40] tradetime : MikeHunt: ok I'll look, any you recommend specfiically for this site?
[2017-01-02 04:41:12] MikeHunt : tradetime: i dont use bots
[2017-01-02 04:41:40] MikeHunt : tradetime: i very much doubt i could make one better than the average profit making bot without some significant time invested
[2017-01-02 04:42:39] alejandromasari : That funding rate is usurious 500% annualized
[2017-01-02 04:42:44] alejandromasari : https://blog.bitmex.com/tag/futures-contract/
[2017-01-02 04:43:57] j8 : alejandromasari: that was back in 2014, when bitmex acted all principled
[2017-01-02 04:44:38] j8 : and to be fair, its talking about fees paid to a broker. bitmex doesn't make anything off the funding charge
[2017-01-02 04:44:46] alejandromasari : What do you mean acted principled
[2017-01-02 04:45:36] alejandromasari : don't they act principled now?
[2017-01-02 04:45:38] j8 : in the early days bitmex was all about being the "professional" exchange, with low leverage and guaranteed clearing
[2017-01-02 04:46:11] shery : j8: High leverage is an beauty of bitmex
[2017-01-02 04:46:35] j8 : they used to criticize exchanges with 20x. then they pivoted to being the full on speculator's casino
[2017-01-02 04:47:02] alejandromasari : @j8 lol no wonder they are a Seychelles corporation
[2017-01-02 04:47:23] laisee : maybe they expected/hoped that Bitcoin trading would be taken up by mainstream finance. Not so much.
[2017-01-02 04:47:23] alejandromasari : and banned from doing business in the usa
[2017-01-02 04:47:29] j8 : they're decent guys though, not saying they're scammy or anything
[2017-01-02 04:47:47] j8 : but yes they would probably have trouble in the US
[2017-01-02 04:48:10] j8 : high leverage is just giving the people what they want
[2017-01-02 04:48:15] alejandromasari : j8: 100x is illegal in the USA
[2017-01-02 04:48:18] laisee : they are competing with Chinese exchange who have very diff revenue model, they have to adapt somehow or be left with no vol
[2017-01-02 04:48:21] j8 : volumes have exploded since then
[2017-01-02 04:48:36] laisee : 'zactly
[2017-01-02 04:49:08] alejandromasari : j8: you seem well versed on the topic how long have you been a bitmex client ?
[2017-01-02 04:49:39] j8 : close to 2 years, a couple months after they launched
[2017-01-02 04:50:03] alejandromasari : j8: I got here yesterday I came from magnr
[2017-01-02 04:50:48] alejandromasari : or limit buy orders I mean
[2017-01-02 04:51:03] alejandromasari : must hit the ask every time
[2017-01-02 04:51:57] j8 : alejandromasari: how much were you paying for funding at magnr?
[2017-01-02 04:52:35] alejandromasari : j8: I was paying .30% every 24hrs
[2017-01-02 04:52:49] alejandromasari : j8: even that was usury
[2017-01-02 04:53:05] j8 : yeah that's comparable to the perpetual swap
[2017-01-02 04:53:35] alejandromasari : j8: .90% round trip to open and close position
[2017-01-02 04:54:32] j8 : and their savings yields 1.28% annually.. not a bad racket they got going there
[2017-01-02 04:54:45] alejandromasari : j8: perpetual swap just charged .27% for 8 hours definitely not comparable
[2017-01-02 04:54:55] j8 : it's a floating rate, that was a high one
[2017-01-02 04:55:18] j8 : you can't cherry pick a high rate for 8 hours and annualize it
[2017-01-02 04:55:43] j8 : sometimes it's negative and you get paid for being long
[2017-01-02 04:55:44] alejandromasari : j8: what's the average then?
[2017-01-02 04:56:00] j8 : last time someone worked it out it was around 50% p.a.
[2017-01-02 04:56:10] alejandromasari : j8: for the past six months I heard it always has been positive
[2017-01-02 04:56:13] johnny : im about to dump bitmex futures
[2017-01-02 04:56:14] johnny : watch out
[2017-01-02 04:56:17] j8 : but it hasn't even existed for a full year
[2017-01-02 04:56:38] j8 : not always positive, but on average yes
[2017-01-02 04:56:41] alejandromasari : johnny: please go short also
[2017-01-02 04:57:04] johnny : hehehe that 45000 buy is me
[2017-01-02 04:57:07] johnny : ok ill now ills ell
[2017-01-02 04:57:44] alejandromasari : johnny: why did you say you were dumping if you were actually buying that's really dishonest...!
[2017-01-02 04:57:59] johnny : im a prankster
[2017-01-02 04:58:31] johnny : are u gois ready?
[2017-01-02 04:58:31] alejandromasari : johnny: lol u bought on the ask
[2017-01-02 04:58:35] johnny : im going to sell a lot
[2017-01-02 04:58:54] alejandromasari : johnny: please sell and sell short
[2017-01-02 04:58:58] johnny : i might take it to zero
[2017-01-02 04:58:59] johnny : wait
[2017-01-02 04:59:21] alejandromasari : johnny: there is hot air coming out of your ass
[2017-01-02 04:59:52] shery : johnny: dump it show soe guts
[2017-01-02 05:00:27] johnny : $31 in fees if i do this
[2017-01-02 05:00:33] johnny : hmmm
[2017-01-02 05:00:41] alejandromasari : johnny: do it
[2017-01-02 05:00:53] alejandromasari : johnny: short to zero
[2017-01-02 05:01:21] johnny : as u can tell by my handle i have been around a long time
[2017-01-02 05:01:28] johnny : i was one of teh first users of bitmex
[2017-01-02 05:01:30] johnny : i am very rich
[2017-01-02 05:01:34] johnny : i can end u all
[2017-01-02 05:01:46] shery : johnny: end us,
[2017-01-02 05:02:02] shery : johnny: My buy order is waiting for getting filled, dump it
[2017-01-02 05:02:06] alejandromasari : johnny: more hot air coming out of your ass get outta here
[2017-01-02 05:02:12] johnny : this is teh top
[2017-01-02 05:02:16] johnny : im callign the top
[2017-01-02 05:02:17] johnny : yes
[2017-01-02 05:02:18] johnny : this is it
[2017-01-02 05:02:20] nOgAnOo : johnny, I am a new trader. will you help me to be successful please?
[2017-01-02 05:02:29] nOgAnOo : I want to get rich and make my own resort.
[2017-01-02 05:02:40] johnny : nOgAnOo: kys i will take everything
[2017-01-02 05:02:49] johnny : im like the king who touched things to make them gold
[2017-01-02 05:02:54] johnny : except every trade i make is perfect
[2017-01-02 05:02:55] qwerti : tbh johnny will leave you in the dirt
[2017-01-02 05:02:57] nOgAnOo : Oh nice I just got rilled
[2017-01-02 05:03:00] nOgAnOo : filled*
[2017-01-02 05:03:09] nOgAnOo : Shorting the dirt out of this obsolete blockchain
[2017-01-02 05:03:41] shery : johnny: johny johny yess mama, are you dumping , No mama
[2017-01-02 05:04:02] BitMEX_Jinming : alejandromasari: You post-only order was a hidden order which always pays taker fee.
[2017-01-02 05:05:16] BitMEX_Jinming : You need to uncheck the `hidden` if you want to receive maker rebate.
[2017-01-02 05:06:01] shery : bull run coming
[2017-01-02 05:06:26] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Jinming: thanks I did not know I am new to bitmex
[2017-01-02 05:06:38] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Jinming: it did not explain in the instructions
[2017-01-02 05:07:31] MikeHunt : shery: think there may be another correction before hand?
[2017-01-02 05:07:47] shery : MikeHunt: N, looking very strong here !
[2017-01-02 05:08:07] shery : MikeHunt: It is not doing even small corrections,
[2017-01-02 05:08:12] nOgAnOo : Johnny, are you sure you are not nursing a huge loss? Your negative attitude is not becoming of a successful trader.
[2017-01-02 05:08:20] MikeHunt : shery: its just the way it hovers on my chart line that makes me nervous, wonder what its waiting for
[2017-01-02 05:08:41] johnny : ALRIGHT GUYS IM ABOUT TO DUMP
[2017-01-02 05:08:45] johnny : BITCOIN CANCELLED
[2017-01-02 05:08:48] johnny : WATCH THE FUTURES
[2017-01-02 05:08:56] johnny : ILL BE COUNTIN DOWN
[2017-01-02 05:08:59] shery : johnny: watching
[2017-01-02 05:09:01] BitMEX_Jinming : alejandromasari: welcome to BitMEX! We will update the instructions/documents.
[2017-01-02 05:09:12] shery : johnny: dump it please
[2017-01-02 05:09:27] shery : johnny: 123 Go
[2017-01-02 05:09:44] johnny : 3
[2017-01-02 05:09:44] johnny : 2
[2017-01-02 05:09:44] johnny : 1
[2017-01-02 05:09:57] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Jinming: what is the downside trading xbth17 vs xbtusd ?
[2017-01-02 05:10:03] qwerti : no worries boys
[2017-01-02 05:10:04] shery : john just 5 $?
[2017-01-02 05:10:06] qwerti : 35 banga
[2017-01-02 05:10:08] qwerti : for the lads
[2017-01-02 05:10:25] johnny : im a 35 banga dont try me ill wipe u clean
[2017-01-02 05:10:28] BitMEX_Jinming : alejandromasari: in fact it was documented here for hidden orders: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees#Order-Type-Exceptions
[2017-01-02 05:10:32] nOgAnOo : 5000 contracts?
[2017-01-02 05:10:38] nOgAnOo : Is that all you got Mr Megawhale?
[2017-01-02 05:10:50] johnny : can u not even read
[2017-01-02 05:10:58] johnny : look at the trades u retard
[2017-01-02 05:11:06] shery : johnny: wtf just 5 4?
[2017-01-02 05:11:10] shery : $
[2017-01-02 05:11:28] shery : johnny: dump it more
[2017-01-02 05:12:53] shery : johnny: silent?
[2017-01-02 05:13:05] nOgAnOo : Johnny is just talk
[2017-01-02 05:13:17] nOgAnOo : Probably went long from 1000 and thinks he's the big shot now
[2017-01-02 05:13:17] johnny : u want me to keep dumping XD
[2017-01-02 05:13:19] TF : BitMEX_Jinming: hi, can you explain who pays the maker and taker fee?
[2017-01-02 05:13:39] shery : johnny: Johny johny dump it please
[2017-01-02 05:13:41] johnny : TF: maker is when you make a limit order taker is when you market order
[2017-01-02 05:13:52] johnny : shery: f u cent
[2017-01-02 05:14:32] shery : johnny: One more dumo to 970 I will pick happily
[2017-01-02 05:15:05] BitMEX_Jinming : TF: the exception is, if you cross with a hidden order, you get maker rebate, and the hidden order pays taker fee.
[2017-01-02 05:15:22] nOgAnOo : Johnny i bet you can't even fill my little order of 170 contracts on the swap
[2017-01-02 05:16:25] qwerti : owning up to a 170 order
[2017-01-02 05:16:27] qwerti : nice one dude
[2017-01-02 05:16:48] qwerti : dude
[2017-01-02 05:16:52] qwerti : make a buy order
[2017-01-02 05:17:00] qwerti : 990
[2017-01-02 05:17:03] qwerti : i will fil
[2017-01-02 05:17:06] qwerti : 170
[2017-01-02 05:17:08] qwerti : wtf bro
[2017-01-02 05:17:33] TF : BitMEX_Jinming: thanks for the explanation! ?
[2017-01-02 05:17:34] qwerti : find something i can fill
[2017-01-02 05:17:36] nOgAnOo : I got rekt the other day bro.. lost 230 dollars. everything I had
[2017-01-02 05:17:36] qwerti : i want to fill you
[2017-01-02 05:17:49] qwerti : dude watch
[2017-01-02 05:17:54] nOgAnOo : yeah
[2017-01-02 05:18:01] nOgAnOo : watching
[2017-01-02 05:18:14] qwerti : there you go
[2017-01-02 05:18:19] qwerti : have fun
[2017-01-02 05:18:29] nOgAnOo : huh? someone just went on top of my order
[2017-01-02 05:18:44] shery : qwerti: fill mines 50 k order at 990 Too
[2017-01-02 05:18:49] j8 : hidden order in front of you
[2017-01-02 05:19:07] qwerti : that's called filling dude
[2017-01-02 05:19:17] nOgAnOo : ok now it's filled
[2017-01-02 05:19:19] nOgAnOo : thanks man!
[2017-01-02 05:19:22] qwerti : no worries
[2017-01-02 05:19:25] qwerti : remember
[2017-01-02 05:19:27] qwerti : no weak hands
[2017-01-02 05:19:32] qwerti : we don't like weak hands round here
[2017-01-02 05:19:36] qwerti : you are holding till ath
[2017-01-02 05:19:43] qwerti : this ones on me
[2017-01-02 05:19:51] nOgAnOo : I'm dumpin this obsolete chain like a hot potato
[2017-01-02 05:19:55] nOgAnOo : Bitcoin is dead!
[2017-01-02 05:20:19] Dtrade16 : Guys how do you look at historical charts?
[2017-01-02 05:20:26] Dtrade16 : Trading view?
[2017-01-02 05:21:35] nOgAnOo : Qwerti, prove your faith in Satoshi and buy up the futures to 1085.88
[2017-01-02 05:22:04] nOgAnOo : 1085.99*
[2017-01-02 05:22:51] qwerti : before the 35 banga i did lol
[2017-01-02 05:22:53] qwerti : 40k was me
[2017-01-02 05:22:56] qwerti : not johnny
[2017-01-02 05:23:15] evilminer : shery: still bullish? ;-)
[2017-01-02 05:23:40] ayy_lmao : keep shorting, we need more moon fuel
[2017-01-02 05:24:14] ayy_lmao : 35 what? 35k contracts?
[2017-01-02 05:24:27] qwerti : yeah dude
[2017-01-02 05:24:33] ayy_lmao : you guys joking
[2017-01-02 05:24:36] ayy_lmao : ?
[2017-01-02 05:24:41] qwerti : look at the order book
[2017-01-02 05:24:45] ayy_lmao : r u srs fronting with 35k contracts
[2017-01-02 05:24:46] qwerti : johnny literally counted it down lol
[2017-01-02 05:24:53] qwerti : what do you mean?
[2017-01-02 05:25:01] qwerti : im 12 dude
[2017-01-02 05:25:01] ayy_lmao : 35k contracts isnt alot
[2017-01-02 05:25:07] qwerti : i have no idea what im doing
[2017-01-02 05:25:09] qwerti : 12k is a lot for me
[2017-01-02 05:25:12] ayy_lmao : oh nice
[2017-01-02 05:25:17] ayy_lmao : alright you get a pass
[2017-01-02 05:25:20] nOgAnOo : yeah, and johnny told me to kill myself
[2017-01-02 05:25:23] nOgAnOo : def not a whale
[2017-01-02 05:25:28] qwerti : what are you guys trading at
[2017-01-02 05:25:35] qwerti : yeah def not whale lol
[2017-01-02 05:25:51] qwerti : >7 fig whale fronting in troll box
[2017-01-02 05:25:56] qwerti : lol
[2017-01-02 05:27:02] XBT_IHCT : johnny is poor leave him alone
[2017-01-02 05:27:13] qwerti : johnny is real poor
[2017-01-02 05:27:21] qwerti : 5k johnny
[2017-01-02 05:27:25] qwerti : that's what i call him
[2017-01-02 05:27:28] nOgAnOo : LOL
[2017-01-02 05:29:12] MikeHunt : bitcoin essentially must hit ATH to survive imo
[2017-01-02 05:29:22] MikeHunt : that means 8k or no more bitcoin
[2017-01-02 05:29:27] MikeHunt : 8k+*
[2017-01-02 05:30:25] qwerti : nice analysis
[2017-01-02 05:30:30] qwerti : i suggest selling
[2017-01-02 05:31:25] shery : new high
[2017-01-02 05:31:56] nOgAnOo : Yeah!!! Dump it!!
[2017-01-02 05:32:01] nOgAnOo : All in short!
[2017-01-02 05:32:09] XBT_IHCT : shery: are you a lady trader?
[2017-01-02 05:32:21] shery : XBT_IHCT: No are you?
[2017-01-02 05:32:37] shery : XBT_IHCT: seems you are looking for a partner
[2017-01-02 05:33:25] XBT_IHCT : I am actually! do you know any sexy lady traders?
[2017-01-02 05:33:26] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-02 05:33:46] nOgAnOo : XBT told me he hasn't had a girlfriend in 10 years
[2017-01-02 05:34:01] ayy_lmao : bitcoin is the only friend you need
[2017-01-02 05:35:11] imapotato : fuck fiat get money
[2017-01-02 05:35:58] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Jinming: why would the software allow for a post and hidden order conditions to be set simultaneously
[2017-01-02 05:36:41] nOgAnOo : Is that 21 contracts you Johnny?
[2017-01-02 05:37:33] qwerti : ok johnny is 5k
[2017-01-02 05:37:35] qwerti : but he's not an idiot
[2017-01-02 05:38:01] shery : qwerti: he did what he said although he only dumped it byt 5 $
[2017-01-02 05:38:07] alejandromasari : Johnnys balls are smaller than a grain of a lentil @johnny
[2017-01-02 05:38:12] qwerti : i did lol
[2017-01-02 05:38:14] qwerti : that's not johnny lmao
[2017-01-02 05:38:23] qwerti : i dropped 35k for that
[2017-01-02 05:38:25] shery : qwerti: xbt 17?
[2017-01-02 05:38:30] qwerti : yes
[2017-01-02 05:38:31] qwerti : we're mates
[2017-01-02 05:38:47] shery : qwerti: ah Nice buddies !
[2017-01-02 05:38:49] ayy_lmao : are you guys really
[2017-01-02 05:38:54] qwerti : yeah dude
[2017-01-02 05:39:02] ayy_lmao : damn, how did you guys get into bitcoin
[2017-01-02 05:39:03] qwerti : great minds think alike
[2017-01-02 05:39:03] Cynthia : Who is Johnny?
[2017-01-02 05:39:04] qwerti : 5k bros
[2017-01-02 05:39:05] shery : qwerti: arent you dumping anymore?
[2017-01-02 05:39:12] qwerti : no lol
[2017-01-02 05:39:17] qwerti : i bought 45k before that
[2017-01-02 05:39:18] alejandromasari : does arthur Hayes ever come on this troll box chat??
[2017-01-02 05:39:28] shery : qwerti: dump it
[2017-01-02 05:39:29] qwerti : johnny is literally your worst nightmare
[2017-01-02 05:39:39] qwerti : shery: no
[2017-01-02 05:40:24] alejandromasari : there is little substance to johnnys claims hot air coming out of his ass
[2017-01-02 05:40:45] qwerti : well considering i know the bloke
[2017-01-02 05:40:49] laisee : alejandromasari: sometimes. he writes their weekly trading analysis newsletter.
[2017-01-02 05:40:54] qwerti : ill challenge that
[2017-01-02 05:40:59] imapotato : $10,000 by January 10th?
[2017-01-02 05:40:59] qwerti : ok gtg bros
[2017-01-02 05:41:12] imapotato : 2018
[2017-01-02 05:41:17] qwerti : happy trades, and remember: if you have weak hands, gtfo. you don't deserve this run
[2017-01-02 05:41:28] alejandromasari : @laisee cool how do I sign up for his newsletter?
[2017-01-02 05:43:19] laisee : I don't recall signing up, check with bitmex folks if you;re not receiving at your email. maybe in junk mail folder?
[2017-01-02 05:43:50] alejandromasari : Dtrade16: go to tradingview.com and lookup xbtusd
[2017-01-02 05:44:28] Dtrade16 : How do I compare though?
[2017-01-02 05:44:32] Dtrade16 : it's confusing
[2017-01-02 05:45:20] Angelika : Correction of $40 is coming
[2017-01-02 05:48:48] shery : Angelika: are you sure?
[2017-01-02 05:49:05] evilminer : How about ~$20? And, we're done. ;-)
[2017-01-02 05:49:29] Angelika : 50k contracts sure
[2017-01-02 05:49:53] nOgAnOo : it's pressed up against me I think I'm gonna get filled
[2017-01-02 05:50:02] Angelika : If I was 100% sure I will trade 1 mill contracts
[2017-01-02 05:50:14] shery : Angelika: lmfao
[2017-01-02 05:50:41] shery : Angelika: I am expecting nother Leg up before we correct
[2017-01-02 05:50:47] MikeHunt : shery: +1
[2017-01-02 05:50:50] arbitrage001 : good afrternoon
[2017-01-02 05:50:54] arbitrage001 : how is everyone doing
[2017-01-02 05:50:59] Angelika : Possible
[2017-01-02 05:51:03] MikeHunt : shery: although it could correct here and still continue
[2017-01-02 05:51:05] arbitrage001 : enjoying they new found wealth?
[2017-01-02 05:51:15] arbitrage001 : the
[2017-01-02 05:51:23] Angelika : Already negative divergances on many timeframes
[2017-01-02 05:51:27] arbitrage001 : at shorty expense
[2017-01-02 05:51:49] nOgAnOo : My friend just doubled his account in 20 minutes!
[2017-01-02 05:51:53] shery : MikeHunt: It seems very strong , no seeling volume, easily climbng uper levels, push seems to be easy and near
[2017-01-02 05:52:27] arbitrage001 : yes, push baby
[2017-01-02 05:52:31] arbitrage001 : i can see the baby's head
[2017-01-02 05:52:33] nOgAnOo : push and fill me
[2017-01-02 05:52:47] nOgAnOo : ohhh 20,000
[2017-01-02 05:52:50] nOgAnOo : that must be johnny
[2017-01-02 05:53:42] alejandromasari : What is the average size leverage used around here @bitmex_jinming
[2017-01-02 05:54:22] arbitrage001 : alejandromasari: dont think they know
[2017-01-02 05:54:42] arbitrage001 : calculating average is not easy task
[2017-01-02 05:55:05] alejandromasari : What is typical size lev used? More than 10x ?
[2017-01-02 05:55:46] Angelika : alejandromasari: all my trades are under2
[2017-01-02 05:56:16] nOgAnOo : high risk unprotected trading
[2017-01-02 05:59:19] Angelika : 2 contract MM showed up
[2017-01-02 05:59:33] Angelika : Someone testing I guess
[2017-01-02 06:00:11] arbitrage001 : Angelika: the one quoting 500 is your mm?
[2017-01-02 06:00:24] Angelika : Yes
[2017-01-02 06:00:43] alejandromasari : Angelika: you're risk averse
[2017-01-02 06:00:46] arbitrage001 : do you have working api for finex?
[2017-01-02 06:01:10] Angelika : No
[2017-01-02 06:01:19] arbitrage001 : alejandromasari: risk is easily control by adjusting size
[2017-01-02 06:01:42] alejandromasari : Angelika: very conservative... I thought I was conservative with 7x leverage
[2017-01-02 06:01:44] arbitrage001 : alejandromasari: and 500 size is not risk averse when testing
[2017-01-02 06:02:34] j8 : if you're trading bitcoin at all you're probably not that risk averse
[2017-01-02 06:02:48] arbitrage001 : j8: yea
[2017-01-02 06:02:49] Angelika : alejandromasari: It's not conservative if you have a lot of btc in the account
[2017-01-02 06:02:58] nOgAnOo : it looks like the 1 contract market maker has tripled his account already
[2017-01-02 06:03:00] arbitrage001 : having bitcoin alone make you super risky person
[2017-01-02 06:03:21] alejandromasari : bitcoin has been my most successful trade... never lost on it!!
[2017-01-02 06:03:47] alejandromasari : im up overall been holding 1x since $400
[2017-01-02 06:03:47] arbitrage001 : in a perpertual bull market, almost everyone make money
[2017-01-02 06:03:51] Angelika : I can trade 200k contracts and still be under 2 leverage
[2017-01-02 06:04:05] alejandromasari : Angelika: you dont need leverage
[2017-01-02 06:04:38] Angelika : MM upgraded to 3 contracts
[2017-01-02 06:04:40] Angelika : Lol
[2017-01-02 06:05:03] BTCBull : Is anyone here familiar with the Bitmex API?
[2017-01-02 06:05:04] nOgAnOo : I am honored to be among such successful traders
[2017-01-02 06:05:06] Angelika : They are profitable in this low volatility
[2017-01-02 06:05:12] nOgAnOo : I hope that the wealth trickles down. hehe
[2017-01-02 06:05:38] alejandromasari : Angelika: how long have you been trading?
[2017-01-02 06:05:47] Angelika : nOgAnOo: you got filled
[2017-01-02 06:05:58] arbitrage001 : BTCBull: https://www.bitmex.com/app/apiOverview
[2017-01-02 06:06:01] nOgAnOo : I am the 300 now man
[2017-01-02 06:06:02] Angelika : alejandromasari: bitcoin or anything?
[2017-01-02 06:06:09] nOgAnOo : trading at 70x leverage
[2017-01-02 06:06:18] nOgAnOo : up to 0.0036
[2017-01-02 06:06:18] BTCBull : arbitrage001: I'm reading through that now
[2017-01-02 06:06:26] nOgAnOo : 40% gains in an hour
[2017-01-02 06:06:43] nOgAnOo : wow, johnny is back with the real money
[2017-01-02 06:06:43] arbitrage001 : BTCBull: https://github.com/BitMEX/sample-market-maker
[2017-01-02 06:06:43] laisee : BTCBull: see https://github.com/BitMEX/sample-market-maker for sample code
[2017-01-02 06:06:45] BTCBull : arbitrage001: Trying to find an endpoint that provides historical candle stick prices
[2017-01-02 06:06:55] BTCBull : I'll check that out too
[2017-01-02 06:07:50] kryptopojken : how can i remove so i cant see my open orders in the chart?
[2017-01-02 06:07:55] kryptopojken : it's cluttering it
[2017-01-02 06:08:05] alejandromasari : Angelika: anything
[2017-01-02 06:08:20] nOgAnOo : It looks like the Mini Market Maker is almost to 4 contracts now
[2017-01-02 06:08:23] Angelika : 17 years
[2017-01-02 06:08:25] nOgAnOo : that's 400%!
[2017-01-02 06:08:41] j8 : BTCBull: check out `/trade/bucketed`
[2017-01-02 06:08:59] alejandromasari : Angelika: wow 17 years!! you are definitely older than me
[2017-01-02 06:09:08] j8 : https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Trade/Trade_getBucketed
[2017-01-02 06:09:09] Angelika : Lol
[2017-01-02 06:09:20] alejandromasari : Angelika: are you on stocktwits? I'm 34
[2017-01-02 06:09:39] Angelika : Yes
[2017-01-02 06:09:44] alejandromasari : Angelika: been at this for 8 years
[2017-01-02 06:09:47] BTCBull : j8: Checking that one out now
[2017-01-02 06:09:54] alejandromasari : Angelika: what is your stocktwits profile?
[2017-01-02 06:10:20] Angelika : I don't post there
[2017-01-02 06:10:45] alejandromasari : Angelika: mine is http://stocktwits.com/AlejandroMasari
[2017-01-02 06:10:57] BTCBull : j8: You rock
[2017-01-02 06:11:26] j8 : :+1:
[2017-01-02 06:11:48] Angelika : BTCBull: he is the best
[2017-01-02 06:12:11] j8 : if only angelika was really a girl...
[2017-01-02 06:12:22] Angelika : Ha ha
[2017-01-02 06:12:37] arbitrage001 : alejandromasari: mine is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett
[2017-01-02 06:13:25] alejandromasari : arbitrage001: I think you meant warren bluffit
[2017-01-02 06:13:46] alejandromasari : arbitrage001: http://stocktwits.com/WarrenBluffit?q=WarrenBluffit
[2017-01-02 06:18:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 2000 @ 1083.17
[2017-01-02 06:18:55] alejandromasari : @REKT keep up the bit rex
[2017-01-02 06:19:05] mariomarco : any admin here?
[2017-01-02 06:21:06] alejandromasari : eth going to have a nice pop in the next 8 hrs
[2017-01-02 06:22:50] nOgAnOo : Fill my 35 short please
[2017-01-02 06:23:05] mariomarco : can anybody explain the thievery
[2017-01-02 06:23:10] mariomarco : i do a test long
[2017-01-02 06:23:16] mariomarco : 999 to 1012
[2017-01-02 06:23:20] mariomarco : 4400$
[2017-01-02 06:23:24] mariomarco : profit 0.03
[2017-01-02 06:23:25] mariomarco : WTF
[2017-01-02 06:23:28] mariomarco : x25
[2017-01-02 06:28:06] happy : Anyone shorting this?
[2017-01-02 06:28:09] MikeHunt : mariomarco: so you wanted to do 4400x25?
[2017-01-02 06:28:36] arbitrage001 : happy: i am
[2017-01-02 06:28:56] happy : arbitrage001: What's the leverage ?
[2017-01-02 06:28:57] happy : I am shorting this too
[2017-01-02 06:29:11] MikeHunt : happy: no, this should go higher although it may correct to 975 lowest
[2017-01-02 06:29:22] mariomarco : MikeHunt: no i did do it
[2017-01-02 06:29:23] arbitrage001 : happy: less than 20% of my capital
[2017-01-02 06:29:26] mariomarco : and got only 0.03
[2017-01-02 06:29:29] mariomarco : instead of 0.05
[2017-01-02 06:29:36] alejandromasari : mariomarco: you paid too much in fees
[2017-01-02 06:29:51] mariomarco : alejandromasari: how so
[2017-01-02 06:29:58] happy : try to become a maker instead of taker
[2017-01-02 06:30:16] mariomarco : happy: ok im being stupid here, how do i become a maker
[2017-01-02 06:30:17] alejandromasari : mariomarco: did you buy on the ask and sell on the bid? then you got swindled with fees
[2017-01-02 06:30:27] alejandromasari : mariomarco: use limit orders mate
[2017-01-02 06:30:30] j8 : mariomarco: you probably paid funding too
[2017-01-02 06:30:35] happy : Set buy/Sell Limit, do not buy market
[2017-01-02 06:30:46] happy : or sell market
[2017-01-02 06:30:57] arbitrage001 : hard to resist the juicy funding
[2017-01-02 06:30:59] mariomarco : so thats the whole key? to MAKE my own price, not TAKE whats available?
[2017-01-02 06:31:09] happy : Basically , Limit order = Maker ; Market order = Taker
[2017-01-02 06:31:10] arbitrage001 : so, i am going to short more if it keeps up
[2017-01-02 06:31:58] happy : you pay 0.075% for become a Taker; You receive 0.025% for become a maker
[2017-01-02 06:32:24] alejandromasari : mariomarco: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2017-01-02 06:32:27] happy : This is 0.1% difference. If you doing it with 10x leverage; This is 1% of your money
[2017-01-02 06:33:17] arbitrage001 : i dont expect anyone to be here for long if he use higher than 5x leverage
[2017-01-02 06:33:27] mariomarco : happy: holy sheet, does my making price have to be unique?
[2017-01-02 06:33:50] mariomarco : arbitrage001: im doign x25 x50, with realtime TA
[2017-01-02 06:34:01] mariomarco : im doing fine, but i got fucked on fees aparently
[2017-01-02 06:34:01] arbitrage001 : mariomarco: ok..
[2017-01-02 06:34:17] BTCBull : arbitrage001: You don't use more than 5x leverage?
[2017-01-02 06:34:20] arbitrage001 : mariomarco: are you super wealthy by now?
[2017-01-02 06:34:36] alejandromasari : mariomarco: the 50x leverage took your account