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[2017-01-01 20:55:10] PARAFFIN : 7200 soon
[2017-01-01 20:56:21] sleger : TOS is for fake traders who draw stuff on charts and need someone to hold their hands.
[2017-01-01 20:59:00] $$ : btce the only exchange below 1000
[2017-01-01 21:00:26] MikeHunt : is there any difference between a no leverage buy and just holding btc in your account?
[2017-01-01 21:00:43] alejandromasari : none
[2017-01-01 21:00:51] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: ok thanks
[2017-01-01 21:01:12] alejandromasari : hold it in your account in your hardware wallet is better @MikeHunt
[2017-01-01 21:01:47] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: you mean like blockchain info?
[2017-01-01 21:02:02] sleger : lol
[2017-01-01 21:02:13] sleger : MikeHunt: somewhere a village is missing an idiot
[2017-01-01 21:02:28] alejandromasari : /block test
[2017-01-01 21:02:48] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: you new to bitcoin mate?
[2017-01-01 21:02:58] alejandromasari : @sleger yes bud idiot town is missing you.
[2017-01-01 21:03:12] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: www.ledgerwallet.com is a good hardware wallet
[2017-01-01 21:03:28] sleger : "Delivering deep foresight and uncanny trend forecasting at critical inflection points. Contact me, your success is my priority." lol
[2017-01-01 21:03:50] BTCDJS : forget about the criticism @MikeHunt if you need pointing in the right direction just ask
[2017-01-01 21:04:14] alejandromasari : ignore sleger this is a kid in his mom's basement makes no money
[2017-01-01 21:04:31] l3f : I'm feeling so euphoric right now
[2017-01-01 21:04:34] sleger : alejandromasari: lol you're new
[2017-01-01 21:04:39] sleger : ask anyone around here
[2017-01-01 21:04:47] BTCDJS : sleger: where did you get that quote?
[2017-01-01 21:04:50] alejandromasari : I am not new to bitcoin but new here
[2017-01-01 21:04:55] l3f : alejandromasari: stfu scrub
[2017-01-01 21:04:55] sleger : BTCDJS: from his profile he linked to
[2017-01-01 21:05:04] sleger : alejandromasari: thats what i said you're new here
[2017-01-01 21:05:06] l3f : sleger's a god
[2017-01-01 21:05:08] memes : http://i.imgur.com/AGVVfE4.png
[2017-01-01 21:05:11] memes : 100x or no balls
[2017-01-01 21:05:14] sleger : ask anyone that's been here for some time
[2017-01-01 21:05:28] l3f : sleger: good job w/ the pump :)
[2017-01-01 21:05:55] BTCBull : Requesting more pump plox
[2017-01-01 21:07:21] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: since 2013 but traded not very often/irregularly @alejandromasari ill check that out thanks
[2017-01-01 21:08:59] rapidtrades : most ppl here seem to prefer trezor over ledger
[2017-01-01 21:09:18] rapidtrades : ledger uses their servers for authentication
[2017-01-01 21:09:18] BTCDJS : MikeHunt:http://technical-analysis-addins.com/trading-gann-rules.php
[2017-01-01 21:09:28] PARAFFIN : the 16$ order is drunk
[2017-01-01 21:09:30] rapidtrades : GANN?
[2017-01-01 21:09:41] rapidtrades : Get away with that bullshit
[2017-01-01 21:10:04] rapidtrades : I don't usually call bullshit on a trading technique but that's bullshit
[2017-01-01 21:10:13] rapidtrades : Grade A level
[2017-01-01 21:10:49] BTCDJS : Its something to start with for a noob
[2017-01-01 21:10:52] l3f : Who was that retard that was calling 970 top yesterday?
[2017-01-01 21:10:59] BTCDJS : Got any better links?
[2017-01-01 21:11:01] l3f : rofl
[2017-01-01 21:12:47] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: thanks ill read that
[2017-01-01 21:13:09] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: ??
[2017-01-01 21:13:10] alejandromasari : @MikeHunt once you're in deep red and stressed you'll forget everything you learned
[2017-01-01 21:13:32] Dtrade16 : Anyone short?
[2017-01-01 21:14:03] l3f : Dtrade16: someone was at least
[2017-01-01 21:14:04] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: i bailed out already
[2017-01-01 21:14:14] alejandromasari : wow @MikeHunt
[2017-01-01 21:14:20] Dtrade16 : l3f: who?
[2017-01-01 21:14:38] l3f : Dtrade16: Tr
[2017-01-01 21:14:40] Dtrade16 : Looks like it's overbought badly
[2017-01-01 21:14:45] l3f : then he went on a buttmad speech about
[2017-01-01 21:14:48] l3f : manipulation
[2017-01-01 21:14:50] Dtrade16 : Gonna crash
[2017-01-01 21:14:53] l3f : it was hilarious
[2017-01-01 21:15:02] rapidtrades : it will be pretty bad if it fails at 1k
[2017-01-01 21:15:07] Dtrade16 : Lol noobs
[2017-01-01 21:15:18] Dtrade16 : It's gonna close down soon
[2017-01-01 21:15:36] Dtrade16 : I've been doing some analysis
[2017-01-01 21:15:48] Dtrade16 : Gonna be bearish I think
[2017-01-01 21:16:03] l3f : Dtrade16: rofl
[2017-01-01 21:16:08] Dtrade16 : Where a lot of contracts sold?
[2017-01-01 21:16:11] Hoble : bitmex your perpetual futures margin XBTUSD seems very high what is the reason for this?
[2017-01-01 21:16:26] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: i wanted to hold but after some calculations this could go a lot higher so i could earn it back and avoid liq
[2017-01-01 21:16:49] Dtrade16 : Were
[2017-01-01 21:17:00] zach719 : MikeHunt: good choice
[2017-01-01 21:18:52] MikeHunt : it wasn't an easy decision but when i accidently moved slider to higher leverage i had to eject quickly
[2017-01-01 21:19:00] MikeHunt : (it wouldnt go back)
[2017-01-01 21:19:22] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: you go all in?
[2017-01-01 21:19:25] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: so what now?
[2017-01-01 21:19:40] MikeHunt : im just going to hold and see where this goes
[2017-01-01 21:19:58] alejandromasari : you're going to hold 1x bitcoin? @MikeHunt
[2017-01-01 21:20:07] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: just regular in the account
[2017-01-01 21:20:45] rapidtrades : loool now there's a slider on recent trades window...cos of the extra number
[2017-01-01 21:20:49] alejandromasari : this thing is going wayy higher
[2017-01-01 21:21:04] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: yeh, im waiting to see if it can breech the current trend line
[2017-01-01 21:21:05] rapidtrades : f*ck that's annoying
[2017-01-01 21:21:19] rapidtrades : hope we crash soon so i don't have to see it
[2017-01-01 21:21:37] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: trends lines are useless... they are subjective. moving averages are objective
[2017-01-01 21:21:40] BTCDJS : lol
[2017-01-01 21:21:44] BTCBull : wtf, why does XBT use a non-linear algorithm for long \ short positions?
[2017-01-01 21:21:57] l3f : BTCBull: rofl
[2017-01-01 21:22:46] BTCDJS : the bull flag is waving
[2017-01-01 21:23:21] BTCDJS : ?
[2017-01-01 21:23:57] alejandromasari : im trying to get filled 5 btc
[2017-01-01 21:23:57] aethlios : stamp.....
[2017-01-01 21:24:07] alejandromasari : no fill yet
[2017-01-01 21:24:09] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: do you recommend any particular books to read on trading, like what you supposedly were trained with in wall st. ?
[2017-01-01 21:24:17] l3f : aethlios: the chart worked didn't it?
[2017-01-01 21:24:19] l3f : did you hold?
[2017-01-01 21:24:53] aethlios : l3f: I am out, hedged all positions with quarterly.
[2017-01-01 21:25:01] l3f : why bro
[2017-01-01 21:25:03] l3f : you drew that chart
[2017-01-01 21:25:04] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: MIDAS TECHNICAL ANALYSIS
[2017-01-01 21:25:05] sleger : MikeHunt: you think that guy was trained ? lol
[2017-01-01 21:25:08] Rado : what's up guys
[2017-01-01 21:25:15] Rado : back from brunch
[2017-01-01 21:25:16] l3f : Rado: moooooooooooooooooooooooon
[2017-01-01 21:25:18] aethlios : we need a retrace, going up from 465 (220%)
[2017-01-01 21:25:22] alejandromasari : mikehunt: A VWAP Approach to Trading and Investing in Today’s Markets
[2017-01-01 21:25:26] l3f : aethlios: fundamentals
[2017-01-01 21:25:51] Rado : aethlios: there will be a retrace
[2017-01-01 21:25:53] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: MIDAS?
[2017-01-01 21:25:56] Rado : at some point
[2017-01-01 21:26:05] Rado : we need everyone to get really bullish
[2017-01-01 21:26:11] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: Check out these videos on learning how to use indicators in TAhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UC587BAG9cLTYtJ7Q4CqcOnw
[2017-01-01 21:26:24] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: https://books.google.ca/books/about/MIDAS_Technical_Analysis.html?id=nQuyq3W_Cm0C&source=kp_cover&redir_esc=y&hl=en
[2017-01-01 21:26:26] aethlios : l3f: https://www.tradingview.com/x/CtbGhJia/ turned bearish, wait to get in again lower, want to see MFI daily around 20, BUT I AM NOT SHORT, just not long any more.
[2017-01-01 21:27:11] l3f : aethlios: bearish div means nothing
[2017-01-01 21:27:30] l3f : oh that was days ago
[2017-01-01 21:27:36] l3f : then it dipped
[2017-01-01 21:27:52] evilminer : All I see are bull flags... Up!
[2017-01-01 21:28:57] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: ty alejandromasari: ty
[2017-01-01 21:29:03] aethlios : l3f: wait to get in again 720-740, made a decent profit.
[2017-01-01 21:29:31] l3f : aethlios: that's not happening anytime soon
[2017-01-01 21:29:37] l3f : news will be out
[2017-01-01 21:29:40] l3f : it'll rocket now
[2017-01-01 21:29:50] $$ : waiting for next round of xbth17 rekts
[2017-01-01 21:29:53] l3f : it will take weeks to pop this
[2017-01-01 21:30:30] evilminer : $$: They're coming.
[2017-01-01 21:30:51] aethlios : l3f: see you 720-740!!!
[2017-01-01 21:31:01] l3f : aethlios: haha
[2017-01-01 21:31:07] l3f : I'll get some stops
[2017-01-01 21:31:10] l3f : but that'll be about it
[2017-01-01 21:31:18] PARAFFIN : btc-e ath
[2017-01-01 21:31:34] dodic : lol 720?
[2017-01-01 21:31:50] PARAFFIN : yes
[2017-01-01 21:31:53] PARAFFIN : 7,20
[2017-01-01 21:32:16] MikeHunt : not yet
[2017-01-01 21:32:24] MikeHunt : im expecting cup n handle from this
[2017-01-01 21:32:28] MikeHunt : 2013-2017
[2017-01-01 21:32:31] MikeHunt : then drop
[2017-01-01 21:32:34] MikeHunt : 8k is target imo
[2017-01-01 21:33:06] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: dont comment until you know what you are doing
[2017-01-01 21:33:21] l3f : BUY AND HOLD
[2017-01-01 21:33:23] l3f : best performing strat
[2017-01-01 21:33:41] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: thats prob a good idea ;)
[2017-01-01 21:34:14] BTCDJS : ;)
[2017-01-01 21:35:05] alejandromasari : the funding rate doubled wow
[2017-01-01 21:35:06] alejandromasari : wtf
[2017-01-01 21:35:32] bitbit : fct anyone ?
[2017-01-01 21:35:58] $$ : short it bitbit
[2017-01-01 21:36:43] bitbit : $$: 1d chart says long ?
[2017-01-01 21:37:05] alejandromasari : anyone shorting 100.75?
[2017-01-01 21:37:11] alejandromasari : 1004.75
[2017-01-01 21:37:12] $$ : 2 hour chart says 0.0028 is support and once that breaks down it goes
[2017-01-01 21:37:47] bitbit : $$: ok. you think it will break it ?
[2017-01-01 21:37:51] $$ : alejandromasari: china waking up in a few. i'm long
[2017-01-01 21:38:11] $$ : bitbit: when BTC goes up again then yes
[2017-01-01 21:38:11] alejandromasari : will they wake up and sell?
[2017-01-01 21:38:12] PARAFFIN : $$: wwhen? 1:30 AM UTC?
[2017-01-01 21:38:39] $$ : china wakes up over the next 1 hour
[2017-01-01 21:38:52] PARAFFIN : $$: you think long now?
[2017-01-01 21:39:02] alejandromasari : https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/china/beijing
[2017-01-01 21:39:15] $$ : we are few dollars from new highs which means 0 shorts in profit. they gotta cover which sends price higher
[2017-01-01 21:39:24] PARAFFIN : you think they wake up and trade bitcoins? xD
[2017-01-01 21:39:51] $$ : add in those who sold gotta buy back in and those who want to long gotta buy in.
[2017-01-01 21:40:29] sleger : with that logic any price would only go in one direction forever
[2017-01-01 21:40:35] sleger : broken logic
[2017-01-01 21:40:54] $$ : unless it's manipulated down by a whale that overwhelms the buyers
[2017-01-01 21:41:52] l3f : if you aren't 100x all in now, you're not trading correctly
[2017-01-01 21:42:01] $$ : take your 50/50 gamble that the buyer or seller shows up next
[2017-01-01 21:42:43] Freewizard : Please bont short the bitcoin that will hurt you hard
[2017-01-01 21:42:56] memes : stop buying at 1005.99 and buy my 1006 sell order got damni
[2017-01-01 21:43:19] l3f : hold on to ya butts, new high coming
[2017-01-01 21:43:23] l3f : new ATH
[2017-01-01 21:43:24] PARAFFIN : wow the price will explode
[2017-01-01 21:43:32] PARAFFIN : fuuu
[2017-01-01 21:46:20] $$ : new ATH could happen within 12 hours. just pump it 774 CNY in china
[2017-01-01 21:46:37] alejandromasari : $$: correct
[2017-01-01 21:48:07] MikeHunt : PARAFFIN: you short?
[2017-01-01 21:49:32] Headroom : buy bananas sell tomatoes anyway
[2017-01-01 21:51:05] justinlooking : muh triples
[2017-01-01 21:52:02] j8 : yeah bitfinex lost a decimal place
[2017-01-01 21:53:57] Rado : j8: how is it going man?
[2017-01-01 21:53:58] justinlooking : they should check down back of sofa
[2017-01-01 21:54:08] alejandromasari : can't wait for btc to meet the gold price
[2017-01-01 21:54:24] alejandromasari : spot gold now at 1152
[2017-01-01 21:54:27] j8 : Rado: pretty good man, you?
[2017-01-01 21:54:40] Rado : very good
[2017-01-01 21:54:45] sleger : price of btc = price of gold means absolutely nothing
[2017-01-01 21:54:50] sleger : totally irrelevant
[2017-01-01 21:54:53] Rado : working on the MM bot code
[2017-01-01 21:55:08] PARAFFIN : why is my margin cross ?
[2017-01-01 21:55:19] Rado : PARAFFIN: you set it that way?
[2017-01-01 21:55:32] PARAFFIN : I dont know i clicked cross
[2017-01-01 21:55:35] j8 : sleger: agree, but it might make headlines anyway
[2017-01-01 21:55:49] BTCDJS : any reason why I have 400 contracts less that what I had when I went long at 963?
[2017-01-01 21:55:59] justinlooking : yeh, all milestones are good :)
[2017-01-01 21:56:01] j8 : $1000 is also equally irrelevant
[2017-01-01 21:56:03] sleger : BTCDJS: i took some, thanks
[2017-01-01 21:56:03] alejandromasari : sleger: you know zilch
[2017-01-01 21:56:12] Rado : I hope we don't become like the gold bugs
[2017-01-01 21:56:15] BTCDJS : sleger: no seriously
[2017-01-01 21:56:32] MikeHunt : whats a recommended stop loss gap? $10-20?
[2017-01-01 21:56:47] alejandromasari : btc price = gold price is going to give bitcoin more publicity!
[2017-01-01 21:56:52] sleger : alejandromasari: no, who is this Zilch guy ?
[2017-01-01 21:56:57] Rado : j8: at least 10000 it's a round number :-)
[2017-01-01 21:57:12] BTCDJS : Bitmex why am I 400 contracts less than before?
[2017-01-01 21:57:22] justinlooking : BTCDJS: it's sleger tax
[2017-01-01 21:57:26] j8 : 10k cny is the next big one i guess
[2017-01-01 21:57:29] sleger : BTCDJS: check your trade history
[2017-01-01 21:57:39] sleger : j8: chinese like 8s, so also 8888
[2017-01-01 21:57:46] justinlooking : ^
[2017-01-01 21:57:46] j8 : right
[2017-01-01 21:57:48] aethlios : DUUUUUUUUUUUMP
[2017-01-01 21:58:21] sleger : XBTUSD 32600 -32600 0 1005.99 boom
[2017-01-01 21:58:31] evilminer : China awake!
[2017-01-01 21:58:54] Rado : aethlios: dump?
[2017-01-01 21:58:54] aethlios : back to 700s
[2017-01-01 21:59:12] Rado : I guess that's what you want
[2017-01-01 21:59:15] Rado : not going to happen
[2017-01-01 21:59:16] Headroom : yeah back to 70's nice idea
[2017-01-01 21:59:27] sleger : I just checkd my phone, I couldnt find any contact for that zilch that im supposed to know
[2017-01-01 21:59:28] BTCDJS : Trade history doesn't show my original contract amount. It shows I always had what I have now. But thats not true.
[2017-01-01 21:59:35] Headroom : let's dance a little and have fun you r so serious waiting to be the next buffet
[2017-01-01 21:59:35] Rado : you guys need to re adjust
[2017-01-01 22:00:01] Rado : don't get stuck to concepts in your mind
[2017-01-01 22:00:07] Rado : if you want to be good traders
[2017-01-01 22:00:07] aethlios : 3 friends of mine called me to ask how they can buy btc, this is a bearish info.
[2017-01-01 22:00:25] Rado : aethlios: that I agree with
[2017-01-01 22:00:48] Rado : to get a top we need some things to happen first
[2017-01-01 22:00:59] Rado : we need a big wick on high volume
[2017-01-01 22:01:12] Rado : maybe $1150
[2017-01-01 22:01:24] Freewizard : all the shorters went home? wheres the doom day?
[2017-01-01 22:02:30] Headroom : they suffocate atm
[2017-01-01 22:02:30] Rado : Freewizard: shorts are here, they are just hurting that's all
[2017-01-01 22:03:14] aethlios : btc price in short mid term is controlled by crook chinese but in long term by fundamentals, so they can easily dump it to 720 in 3 days are margin call any leveraged bull out there. we are going up from 465.
[2017-01-01 22:03:51] Headroom : it's controled by a secret nazi leader hidden in a space bunker
[2017-01-01 22:03:58] Angelika : aethlios: it's not that simple
[2017-01-01 22:04:07] dodic : i heard its controlled by mecha hitler
[2017-01-01 22:04:21] divinci : you are all not taking into consideration that this is an ATH and if FOMO fever takes hold there is no-one to sell above the ATH
[2017-01-01 22:04:37] aethlios : well we all follow huobi and okcoin both with fake volume transactions.
[2017-01-01 22:04:41] divinci : dont die calling the top
[2017-01-01 22:04:59] divinci : the top will be easy to see when we hit it
[2017-01-01 22:07:20] MikeHunt : divinci: isnt ath 8k? not there yet?
[2017-01-01 22:08:33] aethlios : just to let you know btc retraces 75% of all rallies, so do the counting.
[2017-01-01 22:11:22] sleger : satoshi coded it in the protocol ?
[2017-01-01 22:11:52] Headroom : the protocol coded satoshi in it
[2017-01-01 22:11:56] Headroom : ok I'm done.
[2017-01-01 22:12:05] aethlios : irrelevant rhetoric question.
[2017-01-01 22:16:24] MikeHunt : whats best place to put a stop-loss?
[2017-01-01 22:17:18] alejandromasari : @MikeHunt dont put a stop loss at '05's and round numbers
[2017-01-01 22:17:39] BTCDJS : why?
[2017-01-01 22:18:07] alejandromasari : bots are programed to seek obvious places where people put stop losses
[2017-01-01 22:19:27] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: ok, but how much of a gap between starting a trade and potential loss?
[2017-01-01 22:19:40] BTCDJS : oh you said dont
[2017-01-01 22:19:52] BTCDJS : i thought you said opposite
[2017-01-01 22:20:34] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: where you long from?
[2017-01-01 22:20:59] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: I like to be up immediately after I buy, I plan my limit buy orders for hours. if it goes against me by 10 dollars I will exit and re-evaluate. Im long on bitmex at 965
[2017-01-01 22:21:13] alejandromasari : I joined yesterday
[2017-01-01 22:21:18] alejandromasari : I added some on the way up
[2017-01-01 22:21:57] MikeHunt : im at 1050 (where i ejected earlier)
[2017-01-01 22:22:01] MikeHunt : 1005*
[2017-01-01 22:22:29] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: where is your LIQ?
[2017-01-01 22:22:38] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: im just holding btc, no liq
[2017-01-01 22:22:58] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: then you are not playing
[2017-01-01 22:23:06] BTCDJS : so no stop loss required
[2017-01-01 22:23:55] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: i dont think you need a stop loss you have 1x
[2017-01-01 22:23:58] alejandromasari : just hold long
[2017-01-01 22:24:11] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: i was just curious incase i did enter, what sort of loss you would allow hence i asked
[2017-01-01 22:24:39] alejandromasari : I held my bitcoin from 400 never had a stop loss in. It was in my ledger wallet.
[2017-01-01 22:25:26] j8 : you can use a stop to open a short position to hedge also.
[2017-01-01 22:25:37] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: do you have the phone that displays how much btc you have or just the basic nano one enough?
[2017-01-01 22:26:02] MikeHunt : ledger*
[2017-01-01 22:26:06] MikeHunt : (not phone)
[2017-01-01 22:27:10] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: I got the nano S with screen
[2017-01-01 22:27:11] BTCDJS : I only enter if I'm positive the price will move up. When it does I put a stop loss slightly above my entry. I use STOP MARKET. As price moves up I will raise my stop loss allowing for 50-60% retrace on each leg so I will place a stop slightly bellow so I don't get stopped out too early.
[2017-01-01 22:27:46] alejandromasari : BTCDJS: good strategy
[2017-01-01 22:28:14] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: https://www.ledgerwallet.com/products/12-ledger-nano-s
[2017-01-01 22:28:27] alejandromasari : BTCDJS: how long have you been trading ?
[2017-01-01 22:28:56] BTCDJS : 1,5 years
[2017-01-01 22:29:16] alejandromasari : BTCDJS: you have a good strategy. very nice
[2017-01-01 22:29:36] BTCDJS : thanks. Trial and error
[2017-01-01 22:30:04] alejandromasari : BTCDJS: been at this for 8 years, mostly in stocks, options and FOREX. Bitmex trading was immediately familiar to me.
[2017-01-01 22:30:45] alejandromasari : BTCDJS: I dont use a lot of leverage because I realize leverage kills accounts I dont go over 10 x ever. Currently im 7x
[2017-01-01 22:31:00] alejandromasari : I will deleverage tomorrow morning, when my clients send me more bitcoin.
[2017-01-01 22:31:29] BTCDJS : I started trading here. This is where I learned. Failed a lot lost a lot. But I got it all back. Now Im being very careful
[2017-01-01 22:32:05] alejandromasari : BTCDJS: did you use 100x when you first started?
[2017-01-01 22:32:22] alejandromasari : BTCDJS: congrats on getting it all back.
[2017-01-01 22:32:31] BTCDJS : yup like an idiot. Plus I didn't know anything
[2017-01-01 22:32:35] BTCDJS : I just guessed
[2017-01-01 22:32:53] BTCDJS : now Im armed with some knowledge
[2017-01-01 22:33:24] alejandromasari : BTCDJS: easy to blow account with 100x. Rarely people can use 100x successfully
[2017-01-01 22:33:38] alejandromasari : BTCDJS: what leverage are you using now?
[2017-01-01 22:34:33] BTCDJS : I use 50X and rely on my TA skills to catch a breakout. But I only trade small amounts 0.2btc at a time
[2017-01-01 22:35:13] BTCDJS : I wait for these rallies. When there is no big rallies I don't trade here
[2017-01-01 22:35:19] alejandromasari : BTCDJS: so .02 x 50 you mean you trade 1 btc
[2017-01-01 22:35:38] gusi : 10 btc i think
[2017-01-01 22:35:48] BTCDJS : yeah but if I lose I only lose small
[2017-01-01 22:36:25] BTCDJS : Noobs come on here and trade 2Btc at 100X
[2017-01-01 22:36:31] sleger : gusi: thanks for correcting him, dont mind him, he is a twitter guy not a trader
[2017-01-01 22:36:32] BTCDJS : I used to do that
[2017-01-01 22:41:23] Trader3000 : Hi, do you have a link of the chart of the Mark Price of XMR7D??
[2017-01-01 22:41:42] l3f : sleger: what's your outlook?
[2017-01-01 22:41:46] l3f : think we'll visit ATH?
[2017-01-01 22:43:30] sleger : I'm still long, but a bit less
[2017-01-01 22:43:40] sleger : will buy if correction
[2017-01-01 22:44:06] Trader3000 : Anybody from Bitmex here?
[2017-01-01 22:45:09] j8 : say "admin" three times, in caps
[2017-01-01 22:45:09] Angelika : Trader3000: you can email them at support@bitmex.com
[2017-01-01 22:45:17] Trader3000 : ok, thx
[2017-01-01 22:45:25] Angelika : sometimes when you call them they show up
[2017-01-01 22:45:49] Naloxone : Trader3000: everyone is
[2017-01-01 22:46:01] BTCDJS : and sometimes they show up when you don't call them
[2017-01-01 22:46:15] Headroom : admins are a myth
[2017-01-01 22:47:29] CaptainDean : just send an email
[2017-01-01 22:47:56] MikeHunt : if you say admin 3 times in the mirror at midnight Sam will appear with a chainsaw behind you
[2017-01-01 22:48:11] Headroom : already tested, it works
[2017-01-01 22:48:42] BitMEX_Sam : :scissors:
[2017-01-01 22:48:50] Headroom : omg omg *running*
[2017-01-01 22:49:45] BitMEX_Sam : ??????
[2017-01-01 22:50:40] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Sam: I started out with 8600 contracts but now I have 8200. I did not sell any. Trade history doesn't show 8600 at all. Why would that happen?
[2017-01-01 22:52:09] justinlooking : BTCDJS: srry dude sounds like pebcak
[2017-01-01 22:52:25] BTCDJS : justinlooking: wat?
[2017-01-01 22:53:24] justinlooking : lmgtfy :P
[2017-01-01 22:53:29] CaptainDean : BTCDJS: you only bought 8200 of the 8600 ?
[2017-01-01 22:53:39] BTCDJS : nope
[2017-01-01 22:53:52] BTCDJS : there is a bug
[2017-01-01 22:54:35] justinlooking : 10000000000000000/1 is a bug
[2017-01-01 22:57:42] BTCDJS : wait a minute
[2017-01-01 22:57:51] BitMEX_Wally : BTCDJS: You bought 8200
[2017-01-01 22:57:56] BTCDJS : My bad.
[2017-01-01 22:58:08] dodic : ahahahha
[2017-01-01 22:58:10] justinlooking : y'fkin derphead
[2017-01-01 22:58:12] BTCDJS : Some how 8600 came into the mix
[2017-01-01 22:58:17] dodic : derp derp derp
[2017-01-01 22:58:21] BTCDJS : derp
[2017-01-01 22:58:24] justinlooking : SCAM!
[2017-01-01 22:58:27] BTCDJS : lol
[2017-01-01 22:58:31] dodic : BitMEX is s scam
[2017-01-01 22:58:37] CaptainDean : humain's brain bug
[2017-01-01 22:58:39] BitMEX_Wally : BTCDJS: No worries :)
[2017-01-01 22:58:40] BTCDJS : Yeah I deserve that lol
[2017-01-01 22:58:41] CaptainDean : ;-)
[2017-01-01 22:58:43] dodic : lol
[2017-01-01 22:58:56] CaptainDean : BTCDJS: shit happens ;-)
[2017-01-01 22:59:03] BitMEX_Sam : ?????
[2017-01-01 22:59:08] Sheriff : Quick question. Is there a fee associated with holding a position on the perpetual swaps?
[2017-01-01 22:59:26] BitMEX_Sam : Sheriff: There can be, see https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding
[2017-01-01 22:59:39] BitMEX_Sam : XBTUSD is the only contract with this property.
[2017-01-01 23:00:20] Sheriff : Got it, thanks. Any easier way to calculate the rate than the equations they give?
[2017-01-01 23:00:28] Sheriff : *You give? haha
[2017-01-01 23:01:28] BitMEX_Sam : It's just `position value * rate`.
[2017-01-01 23:01:51] BitMEX_Sam : The calculations just show how we arrive at the rate.
[2017-01-01 23:02:17] Sheriff : Ahh ok gotcha, I see the funding rate on the left. Thank you!
[2017-01-01 23:04:42] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: who are we finding with that .27% every 8 hours?
[2017-01-01 23:04:54] alejandromasari : Funding
[2017-01-01 23:05:05] BitMEX_Sam : Someone on the other side.
[2017-01-01 23:05:17] BTCDJS : sleger
[2017-01-01 23:05:23] justinlooking : ha
[2017-01-01 23:05:26] BitMEX_Sam : The rate depends on what side you are on. For example, if you are short XBTUSD right now, you will receive 0.2787% in 4 hours.
[2017-01-01 23:06:26] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: why do we need to fund the shorts? This a new concept to me. I come from wall st. Shorts don't get funding.
[2017-01-01 23:06:58] BitMEX_Sam : alejandromasari: Because XBTUSD is a perpetual contract with no expiry. Without any tethering mechanism there is no reason why it should follow spot
[2017-01-01 23:07:19] BitMEX_Sam : 8hr funding rates are built to emulate futures basis but paid only during the duration you hold the contract.
[2017-01-01 23:07:21] sleger : "alejandromasari: BitMEX_Sam: why do we need to fund the shorts? This a new concept to me. I come from wall st. Shorts don't get funding."
[2017-01-01 23:07:24] sleger : lol what an idiot
[2017-01-01 23:07:30] BitMEX_Sam : Be nice sleger
[2017-01-01 23:07:38] sleger : he doesnt come from wall st
[2017-01-01 23:07:47] BitMEX_Sam : I understand the confusion regardless, it's a novel contract type
[2017-01-01 23:07:49] Headroom : Sam has a knife
[2017-01-01 23:07:59] BitMEX_Wally : alejandromasari: On Wall Street you pay to borrow USD and you pay to borrow stock. The net payments would be considered funding in total return swap
[2017-01-01 23:08:20] sleger : when you're on margin, wether long or short you DO pay funding
[2017-01-01 23:08:29] sleger : true on any street, wall or not
[2017-01-01 23:08:32] BitMEX_Wally : The borrow rate for USD is higher than the borrow rate for Bitcoin, hence why shorts get paid
[2017-01-01 23:08:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1113 @ 1004.75
[2017-01-01 23:08:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1500 @ 1066.85
[2017-01-01 23:08:43] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Wally: yeah you have to pay to borrow a stock
[2017-01-01 23:09:38] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Wally: so if I use xbth17 I can avoid paying funding?
[2017-01-01 23:09:51] MikeHunt : looksing like sell time
[2017-01-01 23:10:04] BitMEX_Wally : alejandromasari: Yes, and by shorting XBTUSD you are paying the Bitcoin borrow rate and earning the USD rate. You can buy XBTH17 instead but of course it trades at a premium
[2017-01-01 23:11:03] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Wally: thanks I'll move to xbth17
[2017-01-01 23:11:53] Sheriff : The premium shouldn't matter too much though considering XBTH17 price is separate from the XBTUSD price though, correct? You're not paying for the same thing
[2017-01-01 23:13:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3500 @ 1001.69
[2017-01-01 23:13:57] aethlios : get ready to get REKTed
[2017-01-01 23:14:11] BTCDJS : aethlios: longs?
[2017-01-01 23:14:18] aethlios : BTCDJS: yes
[2017-01-01 23:14:25] MikeHunt : sell time?
[2017-01-01 23:14:27] BTCDJS : not yet
[2017-01-01 23:15:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5 @ 1000.49
[2017-01-01 23:15:26] aethlios : This time is different....
[2017-01-01 23:15:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 700 @ 1000.20
[2017-01-01 23:15:26] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2017-01-01 23:15:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 18000 @ 999.50
[2017-01-01 23:15:50] Naloxone : Death to longs!
[2017-01-01 23:16:02] sleger : come to mummy discount
[2017-01-01 23:16:07] aethlios : long live the short, btc dead.
[2017-01-01 23:16:26] BTCDJS : ok now
[2017-01-01 23:16:28] alejandromasari : Chinese taking profits
[2017-01-01 23:16:28] BTCDJS : lol
[2017-01-01 23:16:37] MikeHunt : 970 ?
[2017-01-01 23:16:40] alejandromasari : they just woke up
[2017-01-01 23:16:44] aethlios : 720-740
[2017-01-01 23:17:40] aethlios : hope for that price.
[2017-01-01 23:18:02] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Wally: how do you block ignorant people on this chat?
[2017-01-01 23:18:20] Tr : you thought it would drop but here is a fake buy wall into buying back up, jokes on you (c) Crooked Huobi
[2017-01-01 23:18:46] BTCDJS : aethlios: really that low?
[2017-01-01 23:18:47] sleger : alejandromasari: just type \ban:alejandromasari:
[2017-01-01 23:18:50] l3f : Tr: Short now it's top
[2017-01-01 23:18:59] l3f : price's collapsing
[2017-01-01 23:19:02] Tr : l3f LOL
[2017-01-01 23:19:15] Tr : l3f i am allin long and it wont ever drop below 7100 bro
[2017-01-01 23:19:17] alejandromasari : /ban:sledger
[2017-01-01 23:19:18] Naloxone : Tr: Probably it will correct this time more than 10$
[2017-01-01 23:19:32] BTCDJS : aethlios: I thought you were a bull
[2017-01-01 23:19:45] Tr : you wont see btc under 7000 yuan ever again
[2017-01-01 23:19:47] Tr : mark my words
[2017-01-01 23:19:50] sleger : alejandromasari: cant even copy paste a name properly....
[2017-01-01 23:19:59] alejandromasari : \ban:sleger
[2017-01-01 23:20:05] Angelika : Tr: that's a stupid call
[2017-01-01 23:20:15] aethlios : BTCDJS: I am a bull, closed long positions, but I don't short, wait for 720-740. we go up from 465.
[2017-01-01 23:20:37] aethlios : BTCDJS: https://www.tradingview.com/x/CtbGhJia/
[2017-01-01 23:20:44] Tr : As if China will let it fall ROFL
[2017-01-01 23:20:48] Tr : look already buying back in INSTANTLY
[2017-01-01 23:20:52] alejandromasari : /ban:sleger:
[2017-01-01 23:20:53] BTCDJS : Yeah I know that fib
[2017-01-01 23:21:07] Tr : hahaha
[2017-01-01 23:21:09] Tr : same pattern
[2017-01-01 23:21:16] Tr : buy wall + perfect green ladder
[2017-01-01 23:21:16] BTCDJS : I suppose 1000 is psychological number
[2017-01-01 23:21:18] Tr : love u China
[2017-01-01 23:21:28] Tr : easy long and rolling in profits
[2017-01-01 23:21:32] Tr : 0% chance to be wrong
[2017-01-01 23:21:41] MikeHunt : i suppose the minors dont want to let go
[2017-01-01 23:21:41] sleger : that guy is actually trying to hide me like that lol, he is so funny
[2017-01-01 23:21:58] BTCDJS : lol
[2017-01-01 23:22:02] MikeHunt : miners*
[2017-01-01 23:22:11] Tr : exactly
[2017-01-01 23:22:12] sleger : whoever trusts him to manage their money must be really sad
[2017-01-01 23:22:20] Tr : miners paying off huobi
[2017-01-01 23:22:23] Tr : huobi rigg price
[2017-01-01 23:22:32] Tr : so go long and collect crooked money
[2017-01-01 23:22:43] Tr : from people who think that its a free market that has corrections and TA
[2017-01-01 23:24:54] Tr : instantly rebought back up.
[2017-01-01 23:25:09] Tr : bots are on the case
[2017-01-01 23:25:32] MikeHunt : Tr: china owns bitcoin now, they have crooked market for real, may as well play along for now
[2017-01-01 23:25:38] BTCDJS : aethlios: good chart. My settings for cloud is 20,60,120,30
[2017-01-01 23:25:46] BTCDJS : works very well
[2017-01-01 23:26:51] Tr : i saw some retard on bitcoin reddit claiming that every drop is rebought because people believe in btc technology and message it sends to the people
[2017-01-01 23:26:53] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Wally: so did my ban work?
[2017-01-01 23:27:18] sleger : ^you should quit being a trader and become full time comedian
[2017-01-01 23:27:51] sleger : "trader"
[2017-01-01 23:28:00] alejandromasari : Oh shit that cockroach sleger is back we need stomp on him
[2017-01-01 23:28:08] Tr : no need to trade
[2017-01-01 23:28:14] Tr : just ride the crooked wave of china
[2017-01-01 23:28:17] Tr : into free money
[2017-01-01 23:29:03] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: are you on stocktwits?
[2017-01-01 23:29:48] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: yes I am
[2017-01-01 23:30:05] alejandromasari : /ignore sleger
[2017-01-01 23:30:34] Tr : 50 yuan drop rebough into 10 minutes by 10 perfect green ladder of candles
[2017-01-01 23:30:40] Tr : good luck shorting this legit market
[2017-01-01 23:30:43] sleger : alejandromasari: do people actually give you money ? lol
[2017-01-01 23:31:25] MikeHunt : sleger: so whats your background the sledger?
[2017-01-01 23:31:32] MikeHunt : then*
[2017-01-01 23:31:44] sleger : who is that sledger ?
[2017-01-01 23:31:45] dodic : You guys sound like you might need some tinfoil hats
[2017-01-01 23:31:46] BTCDJS : a view of paris
[2017-01-01 23:32:00] l3f : MikeHunt: making fat stacks is his background
[2017-01-01 23:32:22] alejandromasari : Wow that was a flash drop
[2017-01-01 23:32:34] sleger : MikeHunt: I do HFT
[2017-01-01 23:32:35] alejandromasari : 100x got wrecked
[2017-01-01 23:32:35] Angelika : alejandromasari: only $10
[2017-01-01 23:33:07] Angelika : alejandromasari: of course they got rekt
[2017-01-01 23:33:13] alejandromasari : sleger: you clean toilets is what u dovest
[2017-01-01 23:33:17] Angelika : if you play 100x you will get rekt
[2017-01-01 23:33:31] WhiteJacket : sleger: what is your strategy mate?
[2017-01-01 23:33:32] Tr : dodic yes because somonebody who has complete control of the price WILL NEVER manipulate it to his advanrage, what a crazy thought, CONSPIRACY/FAKE NEWS
[2017-01-01 23:33:33] sleger : alejandromasari: I dovest ?
[2017-01-01 23:33:35] alejandromasari : Do best
[2017-01-01 23:33:55] sleger : alejandromasari: icant say, i havent done it, i have a maid
[2017-01-01 23:34:15] dodic : I was unaware that china was a hive mind
[2017-01-01 23:34:40] Tr : dodic you think its a free market there in China?
[2017-01-01 23:35:04] alejandromasari : I would get rekt if bitcoin drop to 800
[2017-01-01 23:35:20] BTCDJS : this is going sideways for a while I recon
[2017-01-01 23:35:24] sleger : \move_price(bitcoin) = 799
[2017-01-01 23:35:36] alejandromasari : Return 0
[2017-01-01 23:35:37] dodic : you do realize that price manipulation is one of the things that can and does happen in an unregulated free market right?
[2017-01-01 23:36:37] MikeHunt : sleger: any recommended reading material for HFT?
[2017-01-01 23:36:52] alejandromasari : bitcoin price action is smoother than stocks and options
[2017-01-01 23:37:32] WhiteJacket : orders are moving quite fast today
[2017-01-01 23:37:50] Tr : some red candles
[2017-01-01 23:37:51] Tr : dont worry
[2017-01-01 23:37:54] Tr : here comes the rebuy
[2017-01-01 23:37:58] Tr : BOOM
[2017-01-01 23:38:05] Tr : now back up
[2017-01-01 23:38:15] Tr : thats my boy, china
[2017-01-01 23:40:06] MikeHunt : if we can make 1200 ill have made a bit back
[2017-01-01 23:40:46] BTCDJS : Its a buy. Its a sell. China this China that. Moon. Doom. Boom.
[2017-01-01 23:40:47] sleger : MikeHunt: not really any reading material worth it
[2017-01-01 23:40:49] $$ : XMR shooting up
[2017-01-01 23:40:58] MikeHunt : sleger: so how did you learn?
[2017-01-01 23:41:01] BTCDJS : Seriously? pack it in guys
[2017-01-01 23:42:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: buy 3501 @ 0.014261
[2017-01-01 23:42:46] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: Best way to learn is to fail. First thing that needs to go is the get rich quick idea.
[2017-01-01 23:43:01] sleger : MikeHunt: i learned math and stats in school. Then I worked in an algo desk in a bank before moving to a proprietary trading company
[2017-01-01 23:43:20] BTCDJS : damn
[2017-01-01 23:43:34] WhiteJacket : fair enought