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[2016-12-31 21:48:59] Angelika : she will use the account in the future
[2016-12-31 21:49:09] Angelika : I guess you will notice when she posts
[2016-12-31 21:49:34] rapidtrades : wait u traded options?
[2016-12-31 21:49:40] rapidtrades : like on the floor or what
[2016-12-31 21:49:48] Angelika : no
[2016-12-31 21:49:48] Angelika : online
[2016-12-31 21:49:55] rapidtrades : selling?
[2016-12-31 21:50:13] nOgAnOo : oh man 84 percent leveraged right now
[2016-12-31 21:50:26] nOgAnOo : entry 962.43 short
[2016-12-31 21:50:29] nOgAnOo : hoping for the big dump
[2016-12-31 21:50:35] Angelika : that is what I wanted to do but back then was hard to get an account where you can sell naked
[2016-12-31 21:50:37] nOgAnOo : dump all over everyones new years parade
[2016-12-31 21:50:48] nOgAnOo : Chinese noodle dump
[2016-12-31 21:51:09] Angelika : nOgAnOo: hope will take you places and make you rich
[2016-12-31 21:51:22] nOgAnOo : I'm building a private resort
[2016-12-31 21:51:25] nOgAnOo : when I make 1 million
[2016-12-31 21:51:30] nOgAnOo : I already have the land
[2016-12-31 21:51:38] Angelika : where?
[2016-12-31 21:51:45] juchide : Dear bitmex open please futures on XCP!
[2016-12-31 21:51:57] nOgAnOo : Certainly not in the USA, coz if I lived there I couldn't trade here. :)
[2016-12-31 21:52:01] rapidtrades : ah XCP
[2016-12-31 21:52:08] rapidtrades : nOgAnOo: :)
[2016-12-31 21:52:25] Chumba : juchide: Never heard of XCP, what is it about?
[2016-12-31 21:52:34] nOgAnOo : But yeah my resort will be in Wisconsin most likely
[2016-12-31 21:52:44] Angelika : juchide: no volume on XCP
[2016-12-31 21:52:49] Chumba : looks shit
[2016-12-31 21:53:08] nOgAnOo : Unless I plan a southern farm with citrus. Already working on growing a lemon orchard and exotic fruits.
[2016-12-31 21:53:10] Angelika : nOgAnOo: I thought you have the land already
[2016-12-31 21:53:15] Angelika : so where is this land?
[2016-12-31 21:53:25] nOgAnOo : The land is Wisconsin
[2016-12-31 21:53:33] nOgAnOo : But I want a southern plot for citrus trees
[2016-12-31 21:53:36] sleger : all of it thats huge
[2016-12-31 21:53:50] sleger : sell half you'll have more than a million
[2016-12-31 21:53:53] nOgAnOo : So I may decide to get new land.. because the land is the cheap part
[2016-12-31 21:54:06] nOgAnOo : the 3 story bunker is gonna cost 500,000+
[2016-12-31 21:54:12] nOgAnOo : have a food forest inside
[2016-12-31 21:54:15] nOgAnOo : skatepark..
[2016-12-31 21:54:17] nOgAnOo : beach
[2016-12-31 21:54:27] nOgAnOo : tool shop and garage
[2016-12-31 21:54:55] nOgAnOo : it will be like that movie with Jim Carrey where he's secretly in a studio on live TV
[2016-12-31 21:54:56] sleger : nOgAnOo: do you have to pay real estate tax in the US on undeveloped land ?
[2016-12-31 21:55:40] nOgAnOo : sleger, my parents own the land so I don't know anything about that.. but I think he pays 500 dollars a year tax on the 40 acres of land.. 1.6 acres of it is a field considered "farm land"
[2016-12-31 21:55:59] nOgAnOo : I could ask him if you really need to know.
[2016-12-31 21:56:38] sleger : just curious, but so the answer seems to be yes, but its low
[2016-12-31 21:56:52] nOgAnOo : it's 35 miles from any city
[2016-12-31 21:57:02] nOgAnOo : Good place to start a Jesus Cult
[2016-12-31 21:57:21] nOgAnOo : All I need is a truckload of AR-15s and body armor
[2016-12-31 21:58:14] nOgAnOo : I am going to build the most beautiful resort on earth.. modeled after Busch Gardens/Garden of Eden/Hanging gardens of Babylon
[2016-12-31 21:58:21] nOgAnOo : With a little bit of Disney
[2016-12-31 21:59:02] nOgAnOo : 60mph go karts.. hang gliding.. hovercrafts.. hoverboards.. jet packs.. private helicopters..
[2016-12-31 21:59:23] nOgAnOo : Pretty much a Bill Gates compound
[2016-12-31 21:59:45] nOgAnOo : Salad bars with live greens. (my own little twist)
[2016-12-31 21:59:59] nOgAnOo : The salad bar was invented in my area actually.
[2016-12-31 22:00:02] nOgAnOo : So it's fitting.
[2016-12-31 22:00:34] nOgAnOo : Ok guys I'm all in short. Let's dump this wreck of a blockchain.
[2016-12-31 22:00:57] nOgAnOo : Dump it back to 10 dollars where it belongs.
[2016-12-31 22:02:09] $$ : lol nOgAnOo
[2016-12-31 22:02:44] $$ : no one wants to go to wisconsin in the winter
[2016-12-31 22:03:17] nOgAnOo : That's why I'm thinking down south.. plus my land doesn't have a waterfall on it.. and that's a top priority for me
[2016-12-31 22:03:26] nOgAnOo : I would have to build it artificially otherwise
[2016-12-31 22:03:44] nOgAnOo : but fun can be had in winter too
[2016-12-31 22:04:02] nOgAnOo : snow angels.. snow cones.. snowboarding.. snowballs..
[2016-12-31 22:04:48] nOgAnOo : Yes China Dump!
[2016-12-31 22:04:54] rms : i'm out of position totally for the first time in a month
[2016-12-31 22:04:54] rms : feels good
[2016-12-31 22:08:20] nOgAnOo : I see strong indications of a Hill and Valley formation on the 1 minute
[2016-12-31 22:08:40] tb : rms: did you lose your place on the leaderboard?
[2016-12-31 22:08:54] tb : or just hidden your name?
[2016-12-31 22:11:35] rms : hidden. i moved up a bit. ;)
[2016-12-31 22:12:48] rms : but i think chance of dumps until the holiday is over is too high to stay long, and i don't short bitcoin ever
[2016-12-31 22:14:21] tb : nice
[2016-12-31 22:14:25] tb : what's your typical trade size?
[2016-12-31 22:14:38] tb : in terms of notional
[2016-12-31 22:15:28] rms : i play along with whatever the market maker is doing, 20 or 25k contracts
[2016-12-31 22:16:06] javierstone : rms: how can u tell what the market maker is doing?
[2016-12-31 22:16:23] nOgAnOo : his order size
[2016-12-31 22:17:21] tb : so you only hold 25k contracts at atime?
[2016-12-31 22:17:57] rms : no, i've held more than a million
[2016-12-31 22:18:14] tb : jesus lol
[2016-12-31 22:18:21] tb : at what kind of leverage?
[2016-12-31 22:18:31] rms : 5-7x
[2016-12-31 22:19:01] rms : margin requirements get way more expensive here when you have more open contracts, so you can't really sanely do 20x at high volume
[2016-12-31 22:19:13] tb : yeah
[2016-12-31 22:19:23] tb : and the initial margin fucks you hard if you get liquidated
[2016-12-31 22:19:30] tb : esp when your risk limit is higher
[2016-12-31 22:21:00] nOgAnOo : rms, I'm trying to trade my way up from 40 cents to 10,000 dollars.. I'm up to 3.50 right now in 1 day
[2016-12-31 22:21:18] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: but will it last 2 weeks though? :)
[2016-12-31 22:21:30] nOgAnOo : i hope so. don't be so cynical, Mike
[2016-12-31 22:21:37] rms : short REP while it's above spot then
[2016-12-31 22:21:43] rms : is my tip
[2016-12-31 22:21:44] rms : ;)
[2016-12-31 22:23:47] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: i hope it does its just the way you said about jesus being the reason it will go up that threw me off a bit
[2016-12-31 22:24:20] nOgAnOo : Mike, my live has been miraculously blessed already. I have no reason to believe that will change.
[2016-12-31 22:24:38] nOgAnOo : I went from having nothing last year to having nearly everything I want right now.
[2016-12-31 22:24:42] justinlooking : rms: what's ur rekt record :)
[2016-12-31 22:25:09] nOgAnOo : rektord
[2016-12-31 22:25:54] zach719 : i dont understand now
[2016-12-31 22:26:02] zach719 : its just holding steady at 960
[2016-12-31 22:26:17] zach719 : and i dont wanna buy in cause i keep thinking its gonna dump but it never does
[2016-12-31 22:26:25] MikeHunt : zach719: maybe its like titanic wen its up in the air during the sinking, its just... waiting
[2016-12-31 22:26:55] zach719 : MikeHunt: lmao
[2016-12-31 22:27:32] nOgAnOo : Ok I'm up to 4 dollars already! up 10x from yesterday
[2016-12-31 22:27:42] rms : i cross margin everything so don't really get rekt'd
[2016-12-31 22:27:55] nOgAnOo : have you ever gotten liquidated rms?
[2016-12-31 22:28:02] rms : maybe 3 btc worth on etc?
[2016-12-31 22:28:17] nOgAnOo : I had my worst day ever 2 days ago trading overtired
[2016-12-31 22:28:20] nOgAnOo : lost 230 dollars.
[2016-12-31 22:28:21] rms : which just happened cause i took it off cross margin to go to sleep
[2016-12-31 22:28:29] rms : and it would have woken up at a profit if i left it at cross
[2016-12-31 22:28:49] nOgAnOo : That's happened to me many times.. barely hitting a margin call then I would have been in huge profit..
[2016-12-31 22:29:00] nOgAnOo : overleveraging.. I am new to trading tho so it's expected
[2016-12-31 22:29:36] MikeHunt : hopefully new years crash can save me or i might get rekt
[2016-12-31 22:29:39] nOgAnOo : This is my favorite platform to trade on out of the dozens I've been on in the past
[2016-12-31 22:29:49] nOgAnOo : I used to do altcoins.. since the first exchange actually.'
[2016-12-31 22:30:22] nOgAnOo : Now that I understand the mechanics and order fee system.
[2016-12-31 22:30:59] zach719 : nOgAnOo: i agree
[2016-12-31 22:31:05] nOgAnOo : buy my 222 pls someone
[2016-12-31 22:31:07] nOgAnOo : :)
[2016-12-31 22:31:14] tb : my favorite is when you get rekt
[2016-12-31 22:31:38] zach719 : tb: amen
[2016-12-31 22:31:39] tb : and buy back from the liquidation bot at better than your liquidation price
[2016-12-31 22:33:06] tb : s/liquidation price/bankruptcy price/
[2016-12-31 22:33:29] nOgAnOo : I need multiple whales as friends..
[2016-12-31 22:33:35] nOgAnOo : and to fill my tiny orders for a while
[2016-12-31 22:33:47] nOgAnOo : and let me know when they are making moves
[2016-12-31 22:33:56] nOgAnOo : that would ensure my success
[2016-12-31 22:34:09] nOgAnOo : *does whale call*
[2016-12-31 22:36:49] Angelika : Did the 20k MM increase to 25k
[2016-12-31 22:36:55] evilminer : Who wants to light this rocket?
[2016-12-31 22:37:18] mariomarco : Do eeet
[2016-12-31 22:38:49] evilminer : Will it explode in my face? That's why I'll let someone else do it. ;-)
[2016-12-31 22:41:06] BTCDJS : Heeeeerrrrrreeeeeeee wwwwwwweeeeeeeere ggggggggggoooooooo
[2016-12-31 22:42:01] evilminer : LOTS of resistance up here! We'll get through eventually though. :-)
[2016-12-31 22:44:35] rapidtrades : RUN BITCORN RUN!
[2016-12-31 22:44:39] MikeHunt : 1.25 hours left
[2016-12-31 22:45:56] sleger : MikeHunt: your parents also lock you up in the basement on christmas eve, not cool ?
[2016-12-31 22:46:08] sleger : new years eve
[2016-12-31 22:46:32] MikeHunt : sleger: im always locked in the basement
[2016-12-31 22:48:27] MikeHunt : i look like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRoSL0kdQFk
[2016-12-31 22:48:46] sleger : not clicking any video coming from you, granny porn isnt my thing
[2016-12-31 22:49:15] BTCDJS : sleger: +1
[2016-12-31 22:49:51] MikeHunt : sleger: does youtube allow granny porn?
[2016-12-31 22:50:05] sleger : how would i know
[2016-12-31 22:51:21] MikeHunt : sleger: you brought it up so i figured...
[2016-12-31 22:51:38] sleger : you must have misread what i typed
[2016-12-31 22:52:05] evilminer : *firework explodes in face*
[2016-12-31 22:52:38] BTCDJS : Mewn
[2016-12-31 22:52:46] Ra : How come my buy orders get rejected because apparently will "lead to immdiate liquidation"" but liq rate is dollars cheaper?
[2016-12-31 22:52:57] evilminer : Bitfinex yawning.
[2016-12-31 22:57:46] nOgAnOo : Does the bull trend have legs or will the dead cat bounce? You decide!
[2016-12-31 22:58:22] nOgAnOo : My friend hates the thought of dead cats, told me never to say that around him. :)
[2016-12-31 22:58:55] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: never show him the video of a bunch of russians catapulting one
[2016-12-31 22:59:11] nOgAnOo : I love you Mike.
[2016-12-31 22:59:17] nOgAnOo : How is your relationship with Christ today?
[2016-12-31 22:59:32] nOgAnOo : Have you tried praying yet? It's the first step in the Scientific method. Test.
[2016-12-31 23:00:01] Angelika : Ra: if you are buying at the ask and Mark price which is lower is used for liquidations it could be that you can't place the order
[2016-12-31 23:00:17] MikeHunt : if it did pump, highest it could go is 1030 imo
[2016-12-31 23:00:18] Angelika : lets say you want to buy at 965, but mark price is 963
[2016-12-31 23:00:23] Angelika : $2 lower
[2016-12-31 23:00:43] nOgAnOo : Yeah, many people will panic sell around 1030.
[2016-12-31 23:00:54] MikeHunt : my liq is nearly 2k
[2016-12-31 23:00:57] MikeHunt : as a shorter
[2016-12-31 23:01:03] MikeHunt : hopefully ill be alright
[2016-12-31 23:04:27] nOgAnOo : can someone buy my 30 please
[2016-12-31 23:04:33] nOgAnOo : im too highly leveraged
[2016-12-31 23:04:35] nOgAnOo : I'm at the top
[2016-12-31 23:05:36] nOgAnOo : There we go
[2016-12-31 23:07:16] sleger : nOgAnOo: if you want to sell hit the bid
[2016-12-31 23:07:26] sleger : begging in the chat for a 30$ order is pathetic
[2016-12-31 23:07:44] nOgAnOo : your attitude is pathetic
[2016-12-31 23:07:57] nOgAnOo : since I met you the other day nothing but negative talk
[2016-12-31 23:08:06] nOgAnOo : Time to get with Jesus, sleger.
[2016-12-31 23:08:54] sleger : dude I said it first
[2016-12-31 23:08:56] nOgAnOo : someone else is scalping with 30 now.. cute
[2016-12-31 23:09:16] sleger : its me
[2016-12-31 23:09:25] sleger : just in case someone thinks about helping you
[2016-12-31 23:09:29] nOgAnOo : oh, I got my order filled
[2016-12-31 23:09:29] sleger : they will be hitting my order
[2016-12-31 23:09:31] nOgAnOo : but thanks
[2016-12-31 23:09:33] nOgAnOo : lol
[2016-12-31 23:09:43] nOgAnOo : im on the other side now
[2016-12-31 23:10:00] nOgAnOo : You are an adorable little troll arent you
[2016-12-31 23:10:25] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: well this is the trollbox...
[2016-12-31 23:10:25] rapidtrades : sleger the perma bull
[2016-12-31 23:10:37] sleger : me ?
[2016-12-31 23:10:48] sleger : i was short from 1100 till 300
[2016-12-31 23:11:14] sleger : ask anyone who was on icbit futures at the time
[2016-12-31 23:11:22] sleger : they will remember
[2016-12-31 23:11:39] MikeHunt : sleger: back in 2013?
[2016-12-31 23:11:41] nOgAnOo : if you are rich then why are you trolling me over a tiny contract when I am trying to come up
[2016-12-31 23:12:02] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: its like in the movie bugs life
[2016-12-31 23:12:04] sleger : nOgAnOo: cause you made me read it
[2016-12-31 23:12:22] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: he squashes you to make an example, its not personal
[2016-12-31 23:14:36] Ra : Thx Angelika..still kinda confused but i did finally get an order in.
[2016-12-31 23:14:45] sleger : imagine if everyone who wanted to do a trade posted it in the book then came to beg on the trollbox, this would become useless
[2016-12-31 23:17:40] orly : yeah good thing it's useful now!
[2016-12-31 23:17:49] dodic : lol imagine if you could submit orders on the trollbox, would be kind of like floor exchange
[2016-12-31 23:44:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 964.55
[2016-12-31 23:52:44] cookielito : fuckin moon
[2016-12-31 23:52:59] dodic : much optimism
[2016-12-31 23:53:32] cookielito : the f word editor is hilarious
[2016-12-31 23:54:44] seshbb : fuck
[2016-12-31 23:55:07] BTCDJS : 1000 in the next 6mins seems unlikely now
[2016-12-31 23:56:46] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: dont be negativew
[2016-12-31 23:56:51] MikeHunt : it could spike in 4 minutes
[2016-12-31 23:56:57] MikeHunt : 1200 !
[2016-12-31 23:57:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20000 @ 965.46
[2016-12-31 23:57:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 965.89
[2016-12-31 23:57:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10 @ 965.81
[2016-12-31 23:57:59] MikeHunt : if it corrects from here we might see 1k in Q1
[2016-12-31 23:58:03] MikeHunt : not all bad i guess
[2017-01-01 00:00:00] $$ : man i cant wait for ATH. people gonna get insta rekt on high margin in $50 swings
[2017-01-01 00:00:04] chords : please when all light in the indicator are lit what does it mean
[2017-01-01 00:00:32] $$ : means if there is a huge ass margin call and it doesnt get filled then those in profit are auto closed to cover the margin call
[2017-01-01 00:00:57] $$ : and the bars represent your order in the case of that occurring
[2017-01-01 00:01:43] cookielito : $$: ????
[2017-01-01 00:01:58] $$ : if i dont make sense just click the lights for more info
[2017-01-01 00:02:05] QuantFocus : he's talking about ADL
[2017-01-01 00:02:13] QuantFocus : cookielito:
[2017-01-01 00:02:45] cookielito : anti defamation league?
[2017-01-01 00:02:50] chords : ss: thanks, does itaffect my position negatively even if my ROE is positive
[2017-01-01 00:03:43] QuantFocus : only if you get closed out when you don't want to
[2017-01-01 00:04:30] chords : it says in the event of a liquidation my position will be reduced
[2017-01-01 00:04:48] QuantFocus : yea, someone else's liquidation
[2017-01-01 00:04:58] QuantFocus : they force you to buy/sell some of your position to cover
[2017-01-01 00:06:25] MikeHunt : are fees meant to balance out over time?
[2017-01-01 00:07:35] chords : QuantFocus:ok now i get,i dont loose am just forced to complete some order
[2017-01-01 00:07:56] QuantFocus : right. you do give up some potential upside though
[2017-01-01 00:08:08] QuantFocus : kinda forces you to take profit
[2017-01-01 00:08:23] chords : thanks for the support
[2017-01-01 00:08:28] QuantFocus : np
[2017-01-01 00:09:42] tb : chords: adl only kicks in when the insurance fund is empty
[2017-01-01 00:09:59] tb : currently it has 160+ btc in it
[2017-01-01 00:10:00] tb : https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceFund
[2017-01-01 00:10:43] sleger : tb: not really cause those 160btc are split amongst instruments in an unknown manner
[2017-01-01 00:11:17] sleger : at least 60btc come from one liquidation on ZEC so it is believed to only be used for zec liq
[2017-01-01 00:14:53] rapidtrades : 60? wasn't it 100?
[2017-01-01 00:14:58] tb : can some bitmex person clarify?
[2017-01-01 00:15:22] nOgAnOo : Dump on me China
[2017-01-01 00:16:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 2 @ 0.008410
[2017-01-01 00:17:02] sleger : rapidtrades: i said at least 60.
[2017-01-01 00:17:21] sleger : 11/25/2016 147.7464 XBT 11/24/2016 67.5096 XBT => looks like it was 80btc
[2017-01-01 00:17:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 213 @ 0.008460
[2017-01-01 00:17:51] sleger : eth startiing an early 2017 100x rally
[2017-01-01 00:18:22] sleger : about to leave to new year's party
[2017-01-01 00:19:05] nOgAnOo : oh yes baby
[2017-01-01 00:19:10] cookielito : ETH gonna boom...
[2017-01-01 00:19:12] nOgAnOo : Make momma rich
[2017-01-01 00:19:41] rapidtrades : sleger: god dam
[2017-01-01 00:21:02] rapidtrades : it is rumored that the guy was fscomeau, now feared deceased
[2017-01-01 00:21:46] $$ : some eth whale with a happy trigger finger
[2017-01-01 00:21:59] $$ : cant wait for btc to moon to buy eth cheaper
[2017-01-01 00:24:00] sleger : rapidtrades: fscomeau 1 point 3 hours ago
[2017-01-01 00:24:10] sleger : he is alive on reddit
[2017-01-01 00:26:06] sleger : 26 days ago : "I am massively short on UVXY right now. Don't think I'll sleep tonight (self.fscomeau)" => looks like he hasnt learned
[2017-01-01 00:26:42] cookielito : UVXY is retarded
[2017-01-01 00:26:47] rapidtrades : https://np.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/5kshpl/i_hereby_declare_the_second_financial_crisis_has/
[2017-01-01 00:34:42] sleger : cookielito: retarded, how ?
[2017-01-01 00:35:48] cookielito : I just highly dislike VIX ETFs
[2017-01-01 00:36:44] MikeHunt : it will keep rising until the fed can't, then it will crash heavy
[2017-01-01 00:36:55] MikeHunt : at the moment its on life support
[2017-01-01 00:37:11] MikeHunt : they've been delaying a correction for ~16 years now
[2017-01-01 00:37:13] sleger : cookielito: well he said he was short
[2017-01-01 00:37:14] MikeHunt : 17*
[2017-01-01 00:38:05] rapidtrades : SKY IS THE LIMIT
[2017-01-01 00:38:11] rapidtrades : or in this case $1,000
[2017-01-01 00:38:41] rapidtrades : there's still 4.5 hrs until NY New Year
[2017-01-01 00:40:35] nOgAnOo : bitcoin is gonna get hacked
[2017-01-01 00:40:43] nOgAnOo : die hard 5 - bitcoin fire sale
[2017-01-01 00:50:14] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: do you think NY new year is more special?
[2017-01-01 00:51:52] laisee : All those bitmex bulls in NY city,must
[2017-01-01 00:52:10] laisee : Not.
[2017-01-01 00:54:16] $$ : gotta watch the big ball drop
[2017-01-01 00:59:17] alejandromasari : hello
[2017-01-01 01:01:08] javierstone : volume is down
[2017-01-01 01:01:27] alejandromasari : if i buy 4 bitcoins on 10x leverage
[2017-01-01 01:01:31] alejandromasari : how much do i gain or lose
[2017-01-01 01:01:35] alejandromasari : per dollar move
[2017-01-01 01:01:38] MikeHunt : javierstone: not to worry, a huobi admin can just login and type it back up again...
[2017-01-01 01:02:12] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: buying at 968 ?
[2017-01-01 01:03:28] gusi : alejandromasari: use the pnl calculator on the top left corner
[2017-01-01 01:11:02] $$ : new yearly candle has opened
[2017-01-01 01:11:42] QuantFocus : just in time
[2017-01-01 01:14:47] narnarfromnarnia : alejandromasari: just go 100x
[2017-01-01 01:14:52] narnarfromnarnia : every 10 dollars you double you rmoney
[2017-01-01 01:15:02] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-01 01:15:19] alejandromasari : yeah but bitcoin is volatile if it drops 5 bucks I go bust
[2017-01-01 01:15:27] alejandromasari : I'll do 25x
[2017-01-01 01:15:43] narnarfromnarnia : yeah go 25x after a big move down
[2017-01-01 01:15:51] narnarfromnarnia : safest way
[2017-01-01 01:15:55] alejandromasari : yes
[2017-01-01 01:16:02] $$ : 25x. this can dump $30 easily
[2017-01-01 01:16:02] narnarfromnarnia : and keep buying when your leverage is below 25x
[2017-01-01 01:16:10] narnarfromnarnia : all the way to 3k
[2017-01-01 01:16:14] narnarfromnarnia : and dump it
[2017-01-01 01:16:16] alejandromasari : right now I'm doing 10x
[2017-01-01 01:16:16] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-01 01:16:56] MikeHunt : if u were short since 935
[2017-01-01 01:17:10] MikeHunt : would you hold til drop or sell now and rebuy with heavy leverage?
[2017-01-01 01:17:22] tb : sell more
[2017-01-01 01:17:34] alejandromasari : anyone going out to party for New Year's eve or are we going to watch this chart all night
[2017-01-01 01:20:07] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: probably another terrifying all nighter
[2017-01-01 01:21:30] nOgAnOo : Megadump incoming.
[2017-01-01 01:21:51] alejandromasari : im about to get filled
[2017-01-01 01:22:59] QuantFocus : alejandromasari: that's a little personal to be discussing in the trollbox
[2017-01-01 01:23:20] QuantFocus : spend NYE however you want though
[2017-01-01 01:25:28] l3f : nOgAnOo: then go in short
[2017-01-01 01:29:19] MikeHunt : QuantFocus: hes short taking a large long green one?
[2017-01-01 01:30:24] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: how much leverage areyou using?
[2017-01-01 01:30:27] MoneySeeMoneyDo : any good app that can show the Bitmex ticker price?
[2017-01-01 01:30:40] MoneySeeMoneyDo : I want to go for a long hike today and check up on an accurate price
[2017-01-01 01:30:53] MikeHunt : MoneySeeMoneyDo: ios or droid?
[2017-01-01 01:31:02] MoneySeeMoneyDo : ios
[2017-01-01 01:31:33] MikeHunt : MoneySeeMoneyDo: you want it as a notification?
[2017-01-01 01:31:45] MoneySeeMoneyDo : nah, just be able to read it
[2017-01-01 01:31:55] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i can't use coin base for notifications, their alerts don't ever work
[2017-01-01 01:32:33] MikeHunt : MoneySeeMoneyDo: you tried just using the website? it's mobile optimized
[2017-01-01 01:34:25] MoneySeeMoneyDo : no, don't need that.
[2017-01-01 01:34:27] MoneySeeMoneyDo : anyway thanks.
[2017-01-01 01:34:59] MikeHunt : yeh cant see anything on appstore
[2017-01-01 01:35:32] MikeHunt : if you can get hold of a droid, that has one
[2017-01-01 01:35:32] alejandromasari : MoneySeeMoneyDo: you must use safari to get quotes on bitmex
[2017-01-01 01:58:07] $$ : bitmex needs to get on bitcoinchecker
[2017-01-01 01:58:20] alejandromasari : what is funding 2hr i@ 0.10% is it calculated based on my position size or my account size?
[2017-01-01 01:58:39] $$ : position
[2017-01-01 01:58:48] $$ : of your swap
[2017-01-01 02:00:36] alejandromasari : so if I had 10k position I have to pay 10 dollars every two hours?
[2017-01-01 02:04:01] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: yup
[2017-01-01 02:04:16] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: depends on the funding rate iirc sometimes it can be negative
[2017-01-01 02:04:49] alejandromasari : wow 100 bucks a day just to maintain my position that's insane
[2017-01-01 02:05:03] alejandromasari : im out of here...
[2017-01-01 02:05:31] narnarfromnarnia : alejandromasari: you can get paid for also having a position
[2017-01-01 02:06:04] alejandromasari : how often does that happen?
[2017-01-01 02:06:06] QuantFocus : it's not every 2 hours, it's every 8
[2017-01-01 02:06:14] QuantFocus : and it varies based on the premium/discount to spot
[2017-01-01 02:06:28] QuantFocus : a discount means long positions get paid
[2017-01-01 02:06:56] alejandromasari : right now he swap is at a premium
[2017-01-01 02:07:23] MikeHunt : didnt see that, yeh evry 8 hrs
[2017-01-01 02:07:43] alejandromasari : every 8 hours is better than every 2 hours
[2017-01-01 02:12:42] alejandromasari : anyone using 100x here?
[2017-01-01 02:15:19] narnarfromnarnia : alejandromasari: don't
[2017-01-01 02:15:27] narnarfromnarnia : it's just guaranteed death
[2017-01-01 02:15:39] narnarfromnarnia : this whips in both directions to crush those everytime
[2017-01-01 02:17:17] alejandromasari : thanks. i'm leveraged 6x
[2017-01-01 02:17:25] alejandromasari : which is not bad
[2017-01-01 02:17:52] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: short or long?
[2017-01-01 02:18:04] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: long
[2017-01-01 02:18:11] alejandromasari : u?
[2017-01-01 02:18:32] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: short since 935
[2017-01-01 02:18:43] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: im screwed if this goes up xD
[2017-01-01 02:19:20] MikeHunt : usually crashes new year so maybe ill be ok
[2017-01-01 02:19:48] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: big gamble good luck..
[2017-01-01 02:20:01] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: you'll need some xanax to cool you off
[2017-01-01 02:20:47] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: can you have a long and short position in one account simultaneously?
[2017-01-01 02:21:18] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: lol, err i dont think so unless its in different markets
[2017-01-01 02:21:29] MikeHunt : i think people here use altcoins as hedge
[2017-01-01 02:22:52] alejandromasari : I got some monero too
[2017-01-01 02:22:55] alejandromasari : 2 days ago
[2017-01-01 02:22:56] alejandromasari : up nice
[2017-01-01 02:25:22] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: when you shorted at 935 did you slam the bid or you had a limit order?
[2017-01-01 02:26:25] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: slam the bid?
[2017-01-01 02:26:28] MikeHunt : what do you mean?
[2017-01-01 02:27:16] alejandromasari : did you sell short by selling on the bid or with a maket order
[2017-01-01 02:27:34] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: selling
[2017-01-01 02:27:45] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: in hindsight a very stupid decision on my part
[2017-01-01 02:27:57] MikeHunt : especialy after such a large drop
[2017-01-01 02:28:07] alejandromasari : I think it was an emotional decision at that point in time
[2017-01-01 02:28:13] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: yup
[2017-01-01 02:28:18] alejandromasari : you were chasing the downdraft
[2017-01-01 02:28:57] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: yeah and i actually a bit on the way down as well, which might got down the toilet if this doesnt dip
[2017-01-01 02:29:07] MikeHunt : got a bit*
[2017-01-01 02:29:55] alejandromasari : @MikeHunt I thought it was going to tank too but after today I am bullish again it seems quite resilient
[2017-01-01 02:30:36] alejandromasari : I play futures on the NYMEX all day every day of the week
[2017-01-01 02:30:39] alejandromasari : I do this for a living.
[2017-01-01 02:30:47] alejandromasari : I never chase the price
[2017-01-01 02:31:02] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: a lesson i will likely learn painfully
[2017-01-01 02:31:13] faggot : SHORT EVERYTHING
[2017-01-01 02:31:15] MikeHunt : its just new years has a tendency to crash btc
[2017-01-01 02:31:18] MikeHunt : thats what im hoping on
[2017-01-01 02:31:47] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: it has the chance to go to $8xx
[2017-01-01 02:33:13] MikeHunt : coindesk interviewed an anaylst, he said 1k touch and drop to 860-900
[2017-01-01 02:33:23] MikeHunt : hit 1k on china then dropped
[2017-01-01 02:33:29] MikeHunt : i hope he's right
[2017-01-01 02:34:19] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: analysts are always wrong... don't you trade on wall street?
[2017-01-01 02:35:04] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: http://www.businessinsider.com/dennis-gartman-crude-oil-call-2016-1
[2017-01-01 02:36:26] nOgAnOo : ARE YOU ALL SLEEPING?
[2017-01-01 02:36:29] nOgAnOo : DO SOMETHING
[2017-01-01 02:36:33] nOgAnOo : :)
[2017-01-01 02:37:00] $$ : btc dumping
[2017-01-01 02:37:18] $$ : btc cant handle the high prices in 2017
[2017-01-01 02:37:23] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: no i dont, he may well be wrong, im just hoping he's not
[2017-01-01 02:37:27] $$ : going to crumble under the weight of the bags
[2017-01-01 02:38:00] MikeHunt : the way i see it is in new years, everyones broke
[2017-01-01 02:38:10] MikeHunt : too much xmas etc.
[2017-01-01 02:38:34] MikeHunt : but being a china bubble that may not apply
[2017-01-01 02:39:30] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: good luck
[2017-01-01 02:39:40] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: it is going your way now.
[2017-01-01 02:40:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 32 @ 0.014030
[2017-01-01 02:40:53] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: thanks, to you to as well
[2017-01-01 02:46:10] $$ : wtf @ ETH
[2017-01-01 02:46:30] zach719 : https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
[2017-01-01 02:46:43] zach719 : only 2% are buying...
[2017-01-01 02:49:02] MikeHunt : low volume
[2017-01-01 02:49:25] alejandromasari : ZionistCash s the next one to rip in the upcoming weeks
[2017-01-01 02:49:30] alejandromasari : ZCash
[2017-01-01 02:51:18] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: why do you call it zionist cash?
[2017-01-01 02:51:43] alejandromasari : it is made and funded by israel
[2017-01-01 02:51:47] alejandromasari : Zionist land
[2017-01-01 02:51:58] Angelika : MikeHunt: how is your trading going?
[2017-01-01 02:52:10] Angelika : first month is critical
[2017-01-01 02:53:23] MikeHunt : Angelika: still on that 935 short lol
[2017-01-01 02:53:53] cookielito : Im surprised how stable this puppy has been
[2017-01-01 02:55:55] nOgAnOo : Anyone wanna fill my 244?
[2017-01-01 02:56:41] alejandromasari : you need to hit the ask
[2017-01-01 02:56:49] alejandromasari : nOgAnOo: hit ask
[2017-01-01 03:02:44] $$ : 6 hour bbands getting tight
[2017-01-01 03:03:27] $$ : next move up going to break $1000
[2017-01-01 03:03:51] alejandromasari : i think so
[2017-01-01 03:04:03] alejandromasari : short about to go bust
[2017-01-01 03:04:17] alejandromasari : 1029 my tgt
[2017-01-01 03:05:33] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: supposing it were going 1030 and you were in my position?
[2017-01-01 03:06:25] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: i would have sold out long time ago for a loss maybe at 945
[2017-01-01 03:06:59] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: this is why I call Zcash Zionist cash: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1389890.0
[2017-01-01 03:08:14] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: at this poing I would try to hedge or deleverage
[2017-01-01 03:08:24] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: point*
[2017-01-01 03:09:12] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: in other words take the loss?
[2017-01-01 03:09:42] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: deleverage means add more cash to it and go for a hedge
[2017-01-01 03:10:11] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: lower your leverage by adding more bitcoin and using another site to go long
[2017-01-01 03:10:36] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: I know this will crash back to 800's again but not today
[2017-01-01 03:14:06] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: best thing to do right now is to walk away
[2017-01-01 03:14:20] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: do something else... this is torture for you
[2017-01-01 03:14:49] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: so leave the position as it is until its back down in however long?
[2017-01-01 03:15:36] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: i dont know your leverage so i can't tell you
[2017-01-01 03:15:45] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: 2x
[2017-01-01 03:16:09] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: I would not take a loss
[2017-01-01 03:16:27] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: just wait and hope it doesnt hit liq?
[2017-01-01 03:16:40] alejandromasari : @MikeHunt : what is your liq price?
[2017-01-01 03:16:49] MikeHunt : just under 2k
[2017-01-01 03:17:13] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: ya man you have a lot of breathing room to go
[2017-01-01 03:17:18] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: chill out for a bit
[2017-01-01 03:17:56] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: you'll be fine;...
[2017-01-01 03:18:08] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: 800 before 2000
[2017-01-01 03:19:32] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: go take a nap do something to distract you.
[2017-01-01 03:19:55] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: i havent slept well for the past week so i may just do that
[2017-01-01 03:20:22] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: just curious though, is deleveraging cheaper than taking the hit now?
[2017-01-01 03:20:54] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: i cant see anyway to calculate the price
[2017-01-01 03:22:16] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: how big is your position?
[2017-01-01 03:22:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 12 @ 0.008850
[2017-01-01 03:22:28] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: ~7 btc
[2017-01-01 03:22:42] $$ : love the random eth pump
[2017-01-01 03:23:13] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: bro you're down a couple of hundred bucks chill out
[2017-01-01 03:25:08] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: ill go play a game or something, thanks for the help/advice btw
[2017-01-01 03:25:25] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: good decision, you need distraction
[2017-01-01 03:49:45] QuantFocus : all traders took the holiday off
[2017-01-01 04:04:32] $$ : where is btc going
[2017-01-01 04:04:43] alejandromasari : 950
[2017-01-01 04:07:25] Coconuter : keep adding
[2017-01-01 04:07:40] Coconuter : till 20th feb 2017
[2017-01-01 04:07:48] Coconuter : it will reach 2000U$+
[2017-01-01 04:07:53] Coconuter : happy new year
[2017-01-01 04:40:56] tb : close to some etc liquidations i thnik
[2017-01-01 04:44:56] $$ : damn etc pumping
[2017-01-01 04:48:23] tb : 1615 ish mark will likely cause liquidations
[2017-01-01 04:50:00] Coconuter : xbtusd
[2017-01-01 04:50:04] Coconuter : stochastic 45min
[2017-01-01 04:50:07] Coconuter : oversolve
[2017-01-01 04:50:20] Coconuter : broke triangle consolidation up
[2017-01-01 04:50:24] alejandromasari : wants lowerrrr
[2017-01-01 04:50:51] Coconuter : going to the party now 10min to mid night
[2017-01-01 04:50:59] Coconuter : just returned to load more
[2017-01-01 04:52:10] $$ : new york city fatcats gonna market buy in 8 minutes to celebrate the new year
[2017-01-01 04:52:27] Coconuter : im pre celebrating
[2017-01-01 04:52:30] Coconuter : the broke triangle
[2017-01-01 04:52:57] mariomarco : $$: why you so shure
[2017-01-01 04:53:20] $$ : lol jk
[2017-01-01 04:53:25] $$ : it'll just chop around some more
[2017-01-01 04:54:03] Coconuter : trade the 45min
[2017-01-01 04:59:29] dodic : new years pop? crash? nothing?
[2017-01-01 04:59:36] MikeHunt : how does one deleverage exactly?
[2017-01-01 04:59:50] MikeHunt : how do you work out how much you need to lower it?
[2017-01-01 05:01:28] $$ : BTC going up in the new york new year
[2017-01-01 05:01:46] evilminer : I hear it's going DOWN. ;-)
[2017-01-01 05:06:24] nOgAnOo : I hear sideways
[2017-01-01 05:08:45] $$ : sideways with a side of chop
[2017-01-01 05:09:05] mariomarco : fk dis disapointment
[2017-01-01 05:09:15] nOgAnOo : yeah.. no movement at all
[2017-01-01 05:09:22] MikeHunt : chart wont load
[2017-01-01 05:10:03] laisee : MikeHunt: add margin until the liquidation price allows u to sleep
[2017-01-01 05:10:38] MikeHunt : laisee: is there any way to work out how much margin is needed?
[2017-01-01 05:11:57] MikeHunt : is it unrealised PNL divided by currentleverage?
[2017-01-01 05:16:40] dodic : laisee: lol
[2017-01-01 05:18:03] laisee : not a highly scientific approach ... but I'm on holiday.
[2017-01-01 05:23:47] MikeHunt : laisee: happy holidays and thanks for the tip i guess
[2017-01-01 05:24:02] laisee : MikeHunt: use the slider to lower your leverage and see how much extra balance is taken up and what liq price is generated.
[2017-01-01 05:24:44] MikeHunt : laisee: it just says "insufficient balance"
[2017-01-01 05:25:21] laisee : then u probably need to deposit some more BTC as margin
[2017-01-01 05:26:08] nOgAnOo : SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!
[2017-01-01 05:26:17] nOgAnOo : *screams*
[2017-01-01 05:26:33] MikeHunt : laisee: just trying to work out how much it wants though
[2017-01-01 05:26:40] MikeHunt : dont want to dent the bank acc too much ;)