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[2016-12-31 20:15:51] BitMEX_Sam : Part of the reason everything gets rewritten in JS is so we can run it in the browser, but we're coming very close to no longer needing the rewrite
[2016-12-31 20:16:22] BitMEX_Sam : There are certain shell programs I'd love to use in the browser, for instance, even as core BitMEX libs, but today there's just too much overhead
[2016-12-31 20:16:51] BitMEX_Sam : That will change in 2017, though. I'm expecting major strides to be taken on the web, and BitMEX itself to become much faster by this time next year.
[2016-12-31 20:17:38] startChat : What on the web is changing?
[2016-12-31 20:18:18] BitMEX_Sam : WASM is coming and will likely be stable enough for some experimental use in a few months
[2016-12-31 20:18:39] javierstone : uhoh longs
[2016-12-31 20:18:40] BitMEX_Sam : ReactJS, which is the core lib we're using for the UI here, will be getting a new priority-based renderer that will allow us to almost always hit 60fps
[2016-12-31 20:19:03] BitMEX_Sam : We might also be able to farm much of the render work off onto multiple threads soon.
[2016-12-31 20:19:13] BitMEX_Sam : On top of that, perhaps we'll see a semi-stable version of Servo by then.
[2016-12-31 20:19:47] BitMEX_Sam : The world has been multicore since 2003 but software is still catching up
[2016-12-31 20:20:05] orly : I think the web itself is probably the biggest failure of the industry
[2016-12-31 20:20:19] orly : i mean, in a sense, it's good, multiplatform and all that
[2016-12-31 20:20:36] orly : but we've spent decades reimplementing everything just so it runs in browsers
[2016-12-31 20:20:40] BitMEX_Sam : I agree, it's simultaneously awful and great
[2016-12-31 20:20:47] orly : in the mean time, browsers have become beasts
[2016-12-31 20:20:52] BitMEX_Sam : It's great in that we've finally figured out a way to run untrusted code pretty reliably
[2016-12-31 20:21:03] BitMEX_Sam : It's awful in that it so clearly wasn't made for that, it's slow, layout is still awful and there's a million gotchas
[2016-12-31 20:21:28] BitMEX_Sam : But it's getting a lot better. Content-Security-Policy and Flexbox are two of my recent favorites
[2016-12-31 20:21:38] BitMEX_Sam : And of course, the whole Babel ecosystem, Flowtype, etc
[2016-12-31 20:21:38] javierstone : 89?
[2016-12-31 20:21:41] javierstone : do we go down
[2016-12-31 20:21:49] javierstone : oh yes we do
[2016-12-31 20:22:34] orly : yeah but we're cramming an operating system into an application that was designed for documents :/
[2016-12-31 20:23:09] orly : it's kinda hard, the whole industry is like 50 year old, yet we can't just start over and say, guys, we fcked up, here's the new os everyone uses from now on
[2016-12-31 20:23:27] orly : at the same time, we can't keep building abstractions on top of each other forever
[2016-12-31 20:24:07] startChat : hard fork it
[2016-12-31 20:24:16] $$ : it's getting easier to get away from microsoft though
[2016-12-31 20:26:11] rapidtrades : Guys did u hear?
[2016-12-31 20:26:34] rapidtrades : Microsoft will allow bitcoin to be typed INSIDE EXCEL
[2016-12-31 20:26:40] rapidtrades : unreal amirite?
[2016-12-31 20:26:45] javierstone : paradigm shift
[2016-12-31 20:26:49] startChat : rapidtrades: this good news
[2016-12-31 20:27:18] BitMEX_Sam : orly: Yeah, it's just so difficult to build new systems. Look at Plan9 or even how long ZFS or BTRFS have taken to get stable
[2016-12-31 20:27:21] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5l8vx5/bitcoin_support_coming_to_microsoft_office_365/
[2016-12-31 20:28:41] rapidtrades : back in the day it took one mainstream article to pump bitcin 50%
[2016-12-31 20:29:01] rapidtrades : now it takes none...we've truly advanced
[2016-12-31 20:29:43] orly : BitMEX_Sam: yeah there are a couple of attempts, like plan9 or squeak but they're certainly not getting traction in this pop industry
[2016-12-31 20:33:21] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: lets pump to 1350 on that news
[2016-12-31 20:34:26] javierstone : 6800 breached
[2016-12-31 20:35:01] rapidtrades : 1e dropped from my pants so I leave it on the counter cos I was in a hurry
[2016-12-31 20:35:11] rapidtrades : I come back few hrs later and the cleaning lady took it
[2016-12-31 20:35:29] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: bitch
[2016-12-31 20:35:52] javierstone : u'll thank her tm
[2016-12-31 20:35:54] BTCDJS : You can't possibly trade on e's
[2016-12-31 20:37:06] BTCDJS : Must be really confident about price move
[2016-12-31 20:38:04] rapidtrades : Did she think it was a tip...or is she stealin
[2016-12-31 20:38:17] rapidtrades : good thing there's safe here
[2016-12-31 20:38:26] justinlooking : you most definitely can trade on e :)
[2016-12-31 20:39:53] rapidtrades : what's E
[2016-12-31 20:40:00] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: she saw it and thought "get in! Sunshine on a rainy day"
[2016-12-31 20:40:14] rapidtrades : lool
[2016-12-31 21:06:42] evilminer : rocket countdown...?
[2016-12-31 21:08:55] $$ : damn
[2016-12-31 21:09:45] $$ : btc gonna pump a ton
[2016-12-31 21:37:02] MikeHunt : got less than 3 hours to get 1k by 2017
[2016-12-31 21:37:24] $$ : 2017 will be known as year of the bitcoin
[2016-12-31 21:37:38] $$ : trillion dollar market cap
[2016-12-31 21:37:48] MikeHunt : yeh
[2016-12-31 21:37:53] MikeHunt : i just dont think this current pump will be
[2016-12-31 21:38:24] $$ : maybe 100 billion market cap this pump
[2016-12-31 21:38:31] $$ : 1 step at a time
[2016-12-31 21:41:02] rapidtrades : yes I'm sure pl wil dump 90bil in this cestpool of a market
[2016-12-31 21:44:17] Angelika : rapidtrades: sup rapidtrades
[2016-12-31 21:44:33] Angelika : Happy New Year!!!
[2016-12-31 21:45:39] Angelika : I guess not quite yet for you
[2016-12-31 21:45:50] nOgAnOo : Hey Angelika!!!
[2016-12-31 21:45:53] nOgAnOo : <3
[2016-12-31 21:46:09] Angelika : nOgAnOo: hey
[2016-12-31 21:46:10] nOgAnOo : I am up to 3.50 on my 40 cent account now
[2016-12-31 21:46:16] Angelika : are you Japanese?
[2016-12-31 21:46:21] sleger : nOgAnOo: expressing your love to Angelika?
[2016-12-31 21:46:27] nOgAnOo : Well on my way to my goal of 10,000. No, my girlfriend is in Japan tho
[2016-12-31 21:46:47] nOgAnOo : Yes, I have an e-crush on her. Though my friend said she's probably a guy
[2016-12-31 21:46:58] sleger : it's Rado second accounr
[2016-12-31 21:47:01] sleger : *t
[2016-12-31 21:47:01] Angelika : nOgAnOo: how many contracts did you buy with 40 cents?
[2016-12-31 21:47:09] sleger : Angelika: 0.4 ?
[2016-12-31 21:47:14] nOgAnOo : I started trading 30 or 40
[2016-12-31 21:47:18] nOgAnOo : or 20 at a time
[2016-12-31 21:47:21] nOgAnOo : just scalping
[2016-12-31 21:47:28] Angelika : nOgAnOo: you can't buy less than 1 contract
[2016-12-31 21:47:29] nOgAnOo : Up 700% in a day
[2016-12-31 21:47:33] Angelika : sleger: traitor
[2016-12-31 21:47:53] sleger : i dont like fake chicks
[2016-12-31 21:47:57] sleger : only arthur likes that
[2016-12-31 21:48:02] Angelika : lol
[2016-12-31 21:48:10] nOgAnOo : I play girls in online games all the time
[2016-12-31 21:48:15] Angelika : this is my wifes name
[2016-12-31 21:48:20] nOgAnOo : would rather look at beautiful female
[2016-12-31 21:48:26] Angelika : I want to introduce her to futures trading
[2016-12-31 21:48:30] nOgAnOo : Spelled with a k IRL?
[2016-12-31 21:48:35] Angelika : she used to trade options with me back in the day
[2016-12-31 21:48:59] Angelika : she will use the account in the future
[2016-12-31 21:49:09] Angelika : I guess you will notice when she posts
[2016-12-31 21:49:34] rapidtrades : wait u traded options?
[2016-12-31 21:49:40] rapidtrades : like on the floor or what
[2016-12-31 21:49:48] Angelika : no
[2016-12-31 21:49:48] Angelika : online
[2016-12-31 21:49:55] rapidtrades : selling?
[2016-12-31 21:50:13] nOgAnOo : oh man 84 percent leveraged right now
[2016-12-31 21:50:26] nOgAnOo : entry 962.43 short
[2016-12-31 21:50:29] nOgAnOo : hoping for the big dump
[2016-12-31 21:50:35] Angelika : that is what I wanted to do but back then was hard to get an account where you can sell naked
[2016-12-31 21:50:37] nOgAnOo : dump all over everyones new years parade
[2016-12-31 21:50:48] nOgAnOo : Chinese noodle dump
[2016-12-31 21:51:09] Angelika : nOgAnOo: hope will take you places and make you rich
[2016-12-31 21:51:22] nOgAnOo : I'm building a private resort
[2016-12-31 21:51:25] nOgAnOo : when I make 1 million
[2016-12-31 21:51:30] nOgAnOo : I already have the land
[2016-12-31 21:51:38] Angelika : where?
[2016-12-31 21:51:45] juchide : Dear bitmex open please futures on XCP!
[2016-12-31 21:51:57] nOgAnOo : Certainly not in the USA, coz if I lived there I couldn't trade here. :)
[2016-12-31 21:52:01] rapidtrades : ah XCP
[2016-12-31 21:52:08] rapidtrades : nOgAnOo: :)
[2016-12-31 21:52:25] Chumba : juchide: Never heard of XCP, what is it about?
[2016-12-31 21:52:34] nOgAnOo : But yeah my resort will be in Wisconsin most likely
[2016-12-31 21:52:44] Angelika : juchide: no volume on XCP
[2016-12-31 21:52:49] Chumba : looks shit
[2016-12-31 21:53:08] nOgAnOo : Unless I plan a southern farm with citrus. Already working on growing a lemon orchard and exotic fruits.
[2016-12-31 21:53:10] Angelika : nOgAnOo: I thought you have the land already
[2016-12-31 21:53:15] Angelika : so where is this land?
[2016-12-31 21:53:25] nOgAnOo : The land is Wisconsin
[2016-12-31 21:53:33] nOgAnOo : But I want a southern plot for citrus trees
[2016-12-31 21:53:36] sleger : all of it thats huge
[2016-12-31 21:53:50] sleger : sell half you'll have more than a million
[2016-12-31 21:53:53] nOgAnOo : So I may decide to get new land.. because the land is the cheap part
[2016-12-31 21:54:06] nOgAnOo : the 3 story bunker is gonna cost 500,000+
[2016-12-31 21:54:12] nOgAnOo : have a food forest inside
[2016-12-31 21:54:15] nOgAnOo : skatepark..
[2016-12-31 21:54:17] nOgAnOo : beach
[2016-12-31 21:54:27] nOgAnOo : tool shop and garage
[2016-12-31 21:54:55] nOgAnOo : it will be like that movie with Jim Carrey where he's secretly in a studio on live TV
[2016-12-31 21:54:56] sleger : nOgAnOo: do you have to pay real estate tax in the US on undeveloped land ?
[2016-12-31 21:55:40] nOgAnOo : sleger, my parents own the land so I don't know anything about that.. but I think he pays 500 dollars a year tax on the 40 acres of land.. 1.6 acres of it is a field considered "farm land"
[2016-12-31 21:55:59] nOgAnOo : I could ask him if you really need to know.
[2016-12-31 21:56:38] sleger : just curious, but so the answer seems to be yes, but its low
[2016-12-31 21:56:52] nOgAnOo : it's 35 miles from any city
[2016-12-31 21:57:02] nOgAnOo : Good place to start a Jesus Cult
[2016-12-31 21:57:21] nOgAnOo : All I need is a truckload of AR-15s and body armor
[2016-12-31 21:58:14] nOgAnOo : I am going to build the most beautiful resort on earth.. modeled after Busch Gardens/Garden of Eden/Hanging gardens of Babylon
[2016-12-31 21:58:21] nOgAnOo : With a little bit of Disney
[2016-12-31 21:59:02] nOgAnOo : 60mph go karts.. hang gliding.. hovercrafts.. hoverboards.. jet packs.. private helicopters..
[2016-12-31 21:59:23] nOgAnOo : Pretty much a Bill Gates compound
[2016-12-31 21:59:45] nOgAnOo : Salad bars with live greens. (my own little twist)
[2016-12-31 21:59:59] nOgAnOo : The salad bar was invented in my area actually.
[2016-12-31 22:00:02] nOgAnOo : So it's fitting.
[2016-12-31 22:00:34] nOgAnOo : Ok guys I'm all in short. Let's dump this wreck of a blockchain.
[2016-12-31 22:00:57] nOgAnOo : Dump it back to 10 dollars where it belongs.
[2016-12-31 22:02:09] $$ : lol nOgAnOo
[2016-12-31 22:02:44] $$ : no one wants to go to wisconsin in the winter
[2016-12-31 22:03:17] nOgAnOo : That's why I'm thinking down south.. plus my land doesn't have a waterfall on it.. and that's a top priority for me
[2016-12-31 22:03:26] nOgAnOo : I would have to build it artificially otherwise
[2016-12-31 22:03:44] nOgAnOo : but fun can be had in winter too
[2016-12-31 22:04:02] nOgAnOo : snow angels.. snow cones.. snowboarding.. snowballs..
[2016-12-31 22:04:48] nOgAnOo : Yes China Dump!
[2016-12-31 22:04:54] rms : i'm out of position totally for the first time in a month
[2016-12-31 22:04:54] rms : feels good
[2016-12-31 22:08:20] nOgAnOo : I see strong indications of a Hill and Valley formation on the 1 minute
[2016-12-31 22:08:40] tb : rms: did you lose your place on the leaderboard?
[2016-12-31 22:08:54] tb : or just hidden your name?
[2016-12-31 22:11:35] rms : hidden. i moved up a bit. ;)
[2016-12-31 22:12:48] rms : but i think chance of dumps until the holiday is over is too high to stay long, and i don't short bitcoin ever
[2016-12-31 22:14:21] tb : nice
[2016-12-31 22:14:25] tb : what's your typical trade size?
[2016-12-31 22:14:38] tb : in terms of notional
[2016-12-31 22:15:28] rms : i play along with whatever the market maker is doing, 20 or 25k contracts
[2016-12-31 22:16:06] javierstone : rms: how can u tell what the market maker is doing?
[2016-12-31 22:16:23] nOgAnOo : his order size
[2016-12-31 22:17:21] tb : so you only hold 25k contracts at atime?
[2016-12-31 22:17:57] rms : no, i've held more than a million
[2016-12-31 22:18:14] tb : jesus lol
[2016-12-31 22:18:21] tb : at what kind of leverage?
[2016-12-31 22:18:31] rms : 5-7x
[2016-12-31 22:19:01] rms : margin requirements get way more expensive here when you have more open contracts, so you can't really sanely do 20x at high volume
[2016-12-31 22:19:13] tb : yeah
[2016-12-31 22:19:23] tb : and the initial margin fucks you hard if you get liquidated
[2016-12-31 22:19:30] tb : esp when your risk limit is higher
[2016-12-31 22:21:00] nOgAnOo : rms, I'm trying to trade my way up from 40 cents to 10,000 dollars.. I'm up to 3.50 right now in 1 day
[2016-12-31 22:21:18] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: but will it last 2 weeks though? :)
[2016-12-31 22:21:30] nOgAnOo : i hope so. don't be so cynical, Mike
[2016-12-31 22:21:37] rms : short REP while it's above spot then
[2016-12-31 22:21:43] rms : is my tip
[2016-12-31 22:21:44] rms : ;)
[2016-12-31 22:23:47] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: i hope it does its just the way you said about jesus being the reason it will go up that threw me off a bit
[2016-12-31 22:24:20] nOgAnOo : Mike, my live has been miraculously blessed already. I have no reason to believe that will change.
[2016-12-31 22:24:38] nOgAnOo : I went from having nothing last year to having nearly everything I want right now.
[2016-12-31 22:24:42] justinlooking : rms: what's ur rekt record :)
[2016-12-31 22:25:09] nOgAnOo : rektord
[2016-12-31 22:25:54] zach719 : i dont understand now
[2016-12-31 22:26:02] zach719 : its just holding steady at 960
[2016-12-31 22:26:17] zach719 : and i dont wanna buy in cause i keep thinking its gonna dump but it never does
[2016-12-31 22:26:25] MikeHunt : zach719: maybe its like titanic wen its up in the air during the sinking, its just... waiting
[2016-12-31 22:26:55] zach719 : MikeHunt: lmao
[2016-12-31 22:27:32] nOgAnOo : Ok I'm up to 4 dollars already! up 10x from yesterday
[2016-12-31 22:27:42] rms : i cross margin everything so don't really get rekt'd
[2016-12-31 22:27:55] nOgAnOo : have you ever gotten liquidated rms?
[2016-12-31 22:28:02] rms : maybe 3 btc worth on etc?
[2016-12-31 22:28:17] nOgAnOo : I had my worst day ever 2 days ago trading overtired
[2016-12-31 22:28:20] nOgAnOo : lost 230 dollars.
[2016-12-31 22:28:21] rms : which just happened cause i took it off cross margin to go to sleep
[2016-12-31 22:28:29] rms : and it would have woken up at a profit if i left it at cross
[2016-12-31 22:28:49] nOgAnOo : That's happened to me many times.. barely hitting a margin call then I would have been in huge profit..
[2016-12-31 22:29:00] nOgAnOo : overleveraging.. I am new to trading tho so it's expected
[2016-12-31 22:29:36] MikeHunt : hopefully new years crash can save me or i might get rekt
[2016-12-31 22:29:39] nOgAnOo : This is my favorite platform to trade on out of the dozens I've been on in the past
[2016-12-31 22:29:49] nOgAnOo : I used to do altcoins.. since the first exchange actually.'
[2016-12-31 22:30:22] nOgAnOo : Now that I understand the mechanics and order fee system.
[2016-12-31 22:30:59] zach719 : nOgAnOo: i agree
[2016-12-31 22:31:05] nOgAnOo : buy my 222 pls someone
[2016-12-31 22:31:07] nOgAnOo : :)
[2016-12-31 22:31:14] tb : my favorite is when you get rekt
[2016-12-31 22:31:38] zach719 : tb: amen
[2016-12-31 22:31:39] tb : and buy back from the liquidation bot at better than your liquidation price
[2016-12-31 22:33:06] tb : s/liquidation price/bankruptcy price/
[2016-12-31 22:33:29] nOgAnOo : I need multiple whales as friends..
[2016-12-31 22:33:35] nOgAnOo : and to fill my tiny orders for a while
[2016-12-31 22:33:47] nOgAnOo : and let me know when they are making moves
[2016-12-31 22:33:56] nOgAnOo : that would ensure my success
[2016-12-31 22:34:09] nOgAnOo : *does whale call*
[2016-12-31 22:36:49] Angelika : Did the 20k MM increase to 25k
[2016-12-31 22:36:55] evilminer : Who wants to light this rocket?
[2016-12-31 22:37:18] mariomarco : Do eeet
[2016-12-31 22:38:49] evilminer : Will it explode in my face? That's why I'll let someone else do it. ;-)
[2016-12-31 22:41:06] BTCDJS : Heeeeerrrrrreeeeeeee wwwwwwweeeeeeeere ggggggggggoooooooo
[2016-12-31 22:42:01] evilminer : LOTS of resistance up here! We'll get through eventually though. :-)
[2016-12-31 22:44:35] rapidtrades : RUN BITCORN RUN!
[2016-12-31 22:44:39] MikeHunt : 1.25 hours left
[2016-12-31 22:45:56] sleger : MikeHunt: your parents also lock you up in the basement on christmas eve, not cool ?
[2016-12-31 22:46:08] sleger : new years eve
[2016-12-31 22:46:32] MikeHunt : sleger: im always locked in the basement
[2016-12-31 22:48:27] MikeHunt : i look like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRoSL0kdQFk
[2016-12-31 22:48:46] sleger : not clicking any video coming from you, granny porn isnt my thing
[2016-12-31 22:49:15] BTCDJS : sleger: +1
[2016-12-31 22:49:51] MikeHunt : sleger: does youtube allow granny porn?
[2016-12-31 22:50:05] sleger : how would i know
[2016-12-31 22:51:21] MikeHunt : sleger: you brought it up so i figured...
[2016-12-31 22:51:38] sleger : you must have misread what i typed
[2016-12-31 22:52:05] evilminer : *firework explodes in face*
[2016-12-31 22:52:38] BTCDJS : Mewn
[2016-12-31 22:52:46] Ra : How come my buy orders get rejected because apparently will "lead to immdiate liquidation"" but liq rate is dollars cheaper?
[2016-12-31 22:52:57] evilminer : Bitfinex yawning.
[2016-12-31 22:57:46] nOgAnOo : Does the bull trend have legs or will the dead cat bounce? You decide!
[2016-12-31 22:58:22] nOgAnOo : My friend hates the thought of dead cats, told me never to say that around him. :)
[2016-12-31 22:58:55] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: never show him the video of a bunch of russians catapulting one
[2016-12-31 22:59:11] nOgAnOo : I love you Mike.
[2016-12-31 22:59:17] nOgAnOo : How is your relationship with Christ today?
[2016-12-31 22:59:32] nOgAnOo : Have you tried praying yet? It's the first step in the Scientific method. Test.
[2016-12-31 23:00:01] Angelika : Ra: if you are buying at the ask and Mark price which is lower is used for liquidations it could be that you can't place the order
[2016-12-31 23:00:17] MikeHunt : if it did pump, highest it could go is 1030 imo
[2016-12-31 23:00:18] Angelika : lets say you want to buy at 965, but mark price is 963
[2016-12-31 23:00:23] Angelika : $2 lower
[2016-12-31 23:00:43] nOgAnOo : Yeah, many people will panic sell around 1030.
[2016-12-31 23:00:54] MikeHunt : my liq is nearly 2k
[2016-12-31 23:00:57] MikeHunt : as a shorter
[2016-12-31 23:01:03] MikeHunt : hopefully ill be alright
[2016-12-31 23:04:27] nOgAnOo : can someone buy my 30 please
[2016-12-31 23:04:33] nOgAnOo : im too highly leveraged
[2016-12-31 23:04:35] nOgAnOo : I'm at the top
[2016-12-31 23:05:36] nOgAnOo : There we go
[2016-12-31 23:07:16] sleger : nOgAnOo: if you want to sell hit the bid
[2016-12-31 23:07:26] sleger : begging in the chat for a 30$ order is pathetic
[2016-12-31 23:07:44] nOgAnOo : your attitude is pathetic
[2016-12-31 23:07:57] nOgAnOo : since I met you the other day nothing but negative talk
[2016-12-31 23:08:06] nOgAnOo : Time to get with Jesus, sleger.
[2016-12-31 23:08:54] sleger : dude I said it first
[2016-12-31 23:08:56] nOgAnOo : someone else is scalping with 30 now.. cute
[2016-12-31 23:09:16] sleger : its me
[2016-12-31 23:09:25] sleger : just in case someone thinks about helping you
[2016-12-31 23:09:29] nOgAnOo : oh, I got my order filled
[2016-12-31 23:09:29] sleger : they will be hitting my order
[2016-12-31 23:09:31] nOgAnOo : but thanks
[2016-12-31 23:09:33] nOgAnOo : lol
[2016-12-31 23:09:43] nOgAnOo : im on the other side now
[2016-12-31 23:10:00] nOgAnOo : You are an adorable little troll arent you
[2016-12-31 23:10:25] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: well this is the trollbox...
[2016-12-31 23:10:25] rapidtrades : sleger the perma bull
[2016-12-31 23:10:37] sleger : me ?
[2016-12-31 23:10:48] sleger : i was short from 1100 till 300
[2016-12-31 23:11:14] sleger : ask anyone who was on icbit futures at the time
[2016-12-31 23:11:22] sleger : they will remember
[2016-12-31 23:11:39] MikeHunt : sleger: back in 2013?
[2016-12-31 23:11:41] nOgAnOo : if you are rich then why are you trolling me over a tiny contract when I am trying to come up
[2016-12-31 23:12:02] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: its like in the movie bugs life
[2016-12-31 23:12:04] sleger : nOgAnOo: cause you made me read it
[2016-12-31 23:12:22] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: he squashes you to make an example, its not personal
[2016-12-31 23:14:36] Ra : Thx Angelika..still kinda confused but i did finally get an order in.
[2016-12-31 23:14:45] sleger : imagine if everyone who wanted to do a trade posted it in the book then came to beg on the trollbox, this would become useless
[2016-12-31 23:17:40] orly : yeah good thing it's useful now!
[2016-12-31 23:17:49] dodic : lol imagine if you could submit orders on the trollbox, would be kind of like floor exchange
[2016-12-31 23:44:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 964.55
[2016-12-31 23:52:44] cookielito : fuckin moon
[2016-12-31 23:52:59] dodic : much optimism
[2016-12-31 23:53:32] cookielito : the f word editor is hilarious
[2016-12-31 23:54:44] seshbb : fuck
[2016-12-31 23:55:07] BTCDJS : 1000 in the next 6mins seems unlikely now
[2016-12-31 23:56:46] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: dont be negativew
[2016-12-31 23:56:51] MikeHunt : it could spike in 4 minutes
[2016-12-31 23:56:57] MikeHunt : 1200 !
[2016-12-31 23:57:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20000 @ 965.46
[2016-12-31 23:57:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 965.89
[2016-12-31 23:57:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10 @ 965.81
[2016-12-31 23:57:59] MikeHunt : if it corrects from here we might see 1k in Q1
[2016-12-31 23:58:03] MikeHunt : not all bad i guess
[2017-01-01 00:00:00] $$ : man i cant wait for ATH. people gonna get insta rekt on high margin in $50 swings
[2017-01-01 00:00:04] chords : please when all light in the indicator are lit what does it mean
[2017-01-01 00:00:32] $$ : means if there is a huge ass margin call and it doesnt get filled then those in profit are auto closed to cover the margin call
[2017-01-01 00:00:57] $$ : and the bars represent your order in the case of that occurring
[2017-01-01 00:01:43] cookielito : $$: ????
[2017-01-01 00:01:58] $$ : if i dont make sense just click the lights for more info
[2017-01-01 00:02:05] QuantFocus : he's talking about ADL
[2017-01-01 00:02:13] QuantFocus : cookielito:
[2017-01-01 00:02:45] cookielito : anti defamation league?
[2017-01-01 00:02:50] chords : ss: thanks, does itaffect my position negatively even if my ROE is positive
[2017-01-01 00:03:43] QuantFocus : only if you get closed out when you don't want to
[2017-01-01 00:04:30] chords : it says in the event of a liquidation my position will be reduced
[2017-01-01 00:04:48] QuantFocus : yea, someone else's liquidation
[2017-01-01 00:04:58] QuantFocus : they force you to buy/sell some of your position to cover
[2017-01-01 00:06:25] MikeHunt : are fees meant to balance out over time?
[2017-01-01 00:07:35] chords : QuantFocus:ok now i get,i dont loose am just forced to complete some order
[2017-01-01 00:07:56] QuantFocus : right. you do give up some potential upside though
[2017-01-01 00:08:08] QuantFocus : kinda forces you to take profit
[2017-01-01 00:08:23] chords : thanks for the support
[2017-01-01 00:08:28] QuantFocus : np
[2017-01-01 00:09:42] tb : chords: adl only kicks in when the insurance fund is empty
[2017-01-01 00:09:59] tb : currently it has 160+ btc in it
[2017-01-01 00:10:00] tb : https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceFund
[2017-01-01 00:10:43] sleger : tb: not really cause those 160btc are split amongst instruments in an unknown manner
[2017-01-01 00:11:17] sleger : at least 60btc come from one liquidation on ZEC so it is believed to only be used for zec liq
[2017-01-01 00:14:53] rapidtrades : 60? wasn't it 100?
[2017-01-01 00:14:58] tb : can some bitmex person clarify?
[2017-01-01 00:15:22] nOgAnOo : Dump on me China
[2017-01-01 00:16:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 2 @ 0.008410
[2017-01-01 00:17:02] sleger : rapidtrades: i said at least 60.
[2017-01-01 00:17:21] sleger : 11/25/2016 147.7464 XBT 11/24/2016 67.5096 XBT => looks like it was 80btc
[2017-01-01 00:17:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 213 @ 0.008460
[2017-01-01 00:17:51] sleger : eth startiing an early 2017 100x rally
[2017-01-01 00:18:22] sleger : about to leave to new year's party
[2017-01-01 00:19:05] nOgAnOo : oh yes baby
[2017-01-01 00:19:10] cookielito : ETH gonna boom...
[2017-01-01 00:19:12] nOgAnOo : Make momma rich
[2017-01-01 00:19:41] rapidtrades : sleger: god dam
[2017-01-01 00:21:02] rapidtrades : it is rumored that the guy was fscomeau, now feared deceased
[2017-01-01 00:21:46] $$ : some eth whale with a happy trigger finger
[2017-01-01 00:21:59] $$ : cant wait for btc to moon to buy eth cheaper
[2017-01-01 00:24:00] sleger : rapidtrades: fscomeau 1 point 3 hours ago
[2017-01-01 00:24:10] sleger : he is alive on reddit
[2017-01-01 00:26:06] sleger : 26 days ago : "I am massively short on UVXY right now. Don't think I'll sleep tonight (self.fscomeau)" => looks like he hasnt learned
[2017-01-01 00:26:42] cookielito : UVXY is retarded
[2017-01-01 00:26:47] rapidtrades : https://np.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/5kshpl/i_hereby_declare_the_second_financial_crisis_has/
[2017-01-01 00:34:42] sleger : cookielito: retarded, how ?
[2017-01-01 00:35:48] cookielito : I just highly dislike VIX ETFs
[2017-01-01 00:36:44] MikeHunt : it will keep rising until the fed can't, then it will crash heavy
[2017-01-01 00:36:55] MikeHunt : at the moment its on life support
[2017-01-01 00:37:11] MikeHunt : they've been delaying a correction for ~16 years now
[2017-01-01 00:37:13] sleger : cookielito: well he said he was short
[2017-01-01 00:37:14] MikeHunt : 17*
[2017-01-01 00:38:05] rapidtrades : SKY IS THE LIMIT
[2017-01-01 00:38:11] rapidtrades : or in this case $1,000
[2017-01-01 00:38:41] rapidtrades : there's still 4.5 hrs until NY New Year
[2017-01-01 00:40:35] nOgAnOo : bitcoin is gonna get hacked
[2017-01-01 00:40:43] nOgAnOo : die hard 5 - bitcoin fire sale
[2017-01-01 00:50:14] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: do you think NY new year is more special?
[2017-01-01 00:51:52] laisee : All those bitmex bulls in NY city,must
[2017-01-01 00:52:10] laisee : Not.
[2017-01-01 00:54:16] $$ : gotta watch the big ball drop
[2017-01-01 00:59:17] alejandromasari : hello
[2017-01-01 01:01:08] javierstone : volume is down
[2017-01-01 01:01:27] alejandromasari : if i buy 4 bitcoins on 10x leverage
[2017-01-01 01:01:31] alejandromasari : how much do i gain or lose
[2017-01-01 01:01:35] alejandromasari : per dollar move
[2017-01-01 01:01:38] MikeHunt : javierstone: not to worry, a huobi admin can just login and type it back up again...
[2017-01-01 01:02:12] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: buying at 968 ?
[2017-01-01 01:03:28] gusi : alejandromasari: use the pnl calculator on the top left corner
[2017-01-01 01:11:02] $$ : new yearly candle has opened
[2017-01-01 01:11:42] QuantFocus : just in time
[2017-01-01 01:14:47] narnarfromnarnia : alejandromasari: just go 100x
[2017-01-01 01:14:52] narnarfromnarnia : every 10 dollars you double you rmoney
[2017-01-01 01:15:02] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-01 01:15:19] alejandromasari : yeah but bitcoin is volatile if it drops 5 bucks I go bust
[2017-01-01 01:15:27] alejandromasari : I'll do 25x
[2017-01-01 01:15:43] narnarfromnarnia : yeah go 25x after a big move down
[2017-01-01 01:15:51] narnarfromnarnia : safest way
[2017-01-01 01:15:55] alejandromasari : yes
[2017-01-01 01:16:02] $$ : 25x. this can dump $30 easily
[2017-01-01 01:16:02] narnarfromnarnia : and keep buying when your leverage is below 25x
[2017-01-01 01:16:10] narnarfromnarnia : all the way to 3k
[2017-01-01 01:16:14] narnarfromnarnia : and dump it
[2017-01-01 01:16:16] alejandromasari : right now I'm doing 10x
[2017-01-01 01:16:16] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-01 01:16:56] MikeHunt : if u were short since 935
[2017-01-01 01:17:10] MikeHunt : would you hold til drop or sell now and rebuy with heavy leverage?
[2017-01-01 01:17:22] tb : sell more
[2017-01-01 01:17:34] alejandromasari : anyone going out to party for New Year's eve or are we going to watch this chart all night
[2017-01-01 01:20:07] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: probably another terrifying all nighter
[2017-01-01 01:21:30] nOgAnOo : Megadump incoming.
[2017-01-01 01:21:51] alejandromasari : im about to get filled
[2017-01-01 01:22:59] QuantFocus : alejandromasari: that's a little personal to be discussing in the trollbox
[2017-01-01 01:23:20] QuantFocus : spend NYE however you want though
[2017-01-01 01:25:28] l3f : nOgAnOo: then go in short
[2017-01-01 01:29:19] MikeHunt : QuantFocus: hes short taking a large long green one?
[2017-01-01 01:30:24] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: how much leverage areyou using?
[2017-01-01 01:30:27] MoneySeeMoneyDo : any good app that can show the Bitmex ticker price?
[2017-01-01 01:30:40] MoneySeeMoneyDo : I want to go for a long hike today and check up on an accurate price
[2017-01-01 01:30:53] MikeHunt : MoneySeeMoneyDo: ios or droid?
[2017-01-01 01:31:02] MoneySeeMoneyDo : ios
[2017-01-01 01:31:33] MikeHunt : MoneySeeMoneyDo: you want it as a notification?
[2017-01-01 01:31:45] MoneySeeMoneyDo : nah, just be able to read it
[2017-01-01 01:31:55] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i can't use coin base for notifications, their alerts don't ever work
[2017-01-01 01:32:33] MikeHunt : MoneySeeMoneyDo: you tried just using the website? it's mobile optimized
[2017-01-01 01:34:25] MoneySeeMoneyDo : no, don't need that.
[2017-01-01 01:34:27] MoneySeeMoneyDo : anyway thanks.
[2017-01-01 01:34:59] MikeHunt : yeh cant see anything on appstore
[2017-01-01 01:35:32] MikeHunt : if you can get hold of a droid, that has one
[2017-01-01 01:35:32] alejandromasari : MoneySeeMoneyDo: you must use safari to get quotes on bitmex
[2017-01-01 01:58:07] $$ : bitmex needs to get on bitcoinchecker
[2017-01-01 01:58:20] alejandromasari : what is funding 2hr i@ 0.10% is it calculated based on my position size or my account size?
[2017-01-01 01:58:39] $$ : position
[2017-01-01 01:58:48] $$ : of your swap
[2017-01-01 02:00:36] alejandromasari : so if I had 10k position I have to pay 10 dollars every two hours?
[2017-01-01 02:04:01] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: yup
[2017-01-01 02:04:16] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: depends on the funding rate iirc sometimes it can be negative
[2017-01-01 02:04:49] alejandromasari : wow 100 bucks a day just to maintain my position that's insane
[2017-01-01 02:05:03] alejandromasari : im out of here...
[2017-01-01 02:05:31] narnarfromnarnia : alejandromasari: you can get paid for also having a position
[2017-01-01 02:06:04] alejandromasari : how often does that happen?
[2017-01-01 02:06:06] QuantFocus : it's not every 2 hours, it's every 8
[2017-01-01 02:06:14] QuantFocus : and it varies based on the premium/discount to spot
[2017-01-01 02:06:28] QuantFocus : a discount means long positions get paid
[2017-01-01 02:06:56] alejandromasari : right now he swap is at a premium
[2017-01-01 02:07:23] MikeHunt : didnt see that, yeh evry 8 hrs
[2017-01-01 02:07:43] alejandromasari : every 8 hours is better than every 2 hours
[2017-01-01 02:12:42] alejandromasari : anyone using 100x here?
[2017-01-01 02:15:19] narnarfromnarnia : alejandromasari: don't
[2017-01-01 02:15:27] narnarfromnarnia : it's just guaranteed death
[2017-01-01 02:15:39] narnarfromnarnia : this whips in both directions to crush those everytime
[2017-01-01 02:17:17] alejandromasari : thanks. i'm leveraged 6x
[2017-01-01 02:17:25] alejandromasari : which is not bad
[2017-01-01 02:17:52] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: short or long?
[2017-01-01 02:18:04] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: long
[2017-01-01 02:18:11] alejandromasari : u?
[2017-01-01 02:18:32] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: short since 935
[2017-01-01 02:18:43] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: im screwed if this goes up xD
[2017-01-01 02:19:20] MikeHunt : usually crashes new year so maybe ill be ok
[2017-01-01 02:19:48] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: big gamble good luck..
[2017-01-01 02:20:01] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: you'll need some xanax to cool you off
[2017-01-01 02:20:47] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: can you have a long and short position in one account simultaneously?
[2017-01-01 02:21:18] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: lol, err i dont think so unless its in different markets
[2017-01-01 02:21:29] MikeHunt : i think people here use altcoins as hedge
[2017-01-01 02:22:52] alejandromasari : I got some monero too
[2017-01-01 02:22:55] alejandromasari : 2 days ago
[2017-01-01 02:22:56] alejandromasari : up nice
[2017-01-01 02:25:22] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: when you shorted at 935 did you slam the bid or you had a limit order?
[2017-01-01 02:26:25] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: slam the bid?
[2017-01-01 02:26:28] MikeHunt : what do you mean?
[2017-01-01 02:27:16] alejandromasari : did you sell short by selling on the bid or with a maket order
[2017-01-01 02:27:34] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: selling
[2017-01-01 02:27:45] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: in hindsight a very stupid decision on my part
[2017-01-01 02:27:57] MikeHunt : especialy after such a large drop
[2017-01-01 02:28:07] alejandromasari : I think it was an emotional decision at that point in time
[2017-01-01 02:28:13] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: yup
[2017-01-01 02:28:18] alejandromasari : you were chasing the downdraft
[2017-01-01 02:28:57] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: yeah and i actually a bit on the way down as well, which might got down the toilet if this doesnt dip
[2017-01-01 02:29:07] MikeHunt : got a bit*
[2017-01-01 02:29:55] alejandromasari : @MikeHunt I thought it was going to tank too but after today I am bullish again it seems quite resilient
[2017-01-01 02:30:36] alejandromasari : I play futures on the NYMEX all day every day of the week
[2017-01-01 02:30:39] alejandromasari : I do this for a living.
[2017-01-01 02:30:47] alejandromasari : I never chase the price
[2017-01-01 02:31:02] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: a lesson i will likely learn painfully
[2017-01-01 02:31:13] faggot : SHORT EVERYTHING
[2017-01-01 02:31:15] MikeHunt : its just new years has a tendency to crash btc
[2017-01-01 02:31:18] MikeHunt : thats what im hoping on
[2017-01-01 02:31:47] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: it has the chance to go to $8xx
[2017-01-01 02:33:13] MikeHunt : coindesk interviewed an anaylst, he said 1k touch and drop to 860-900
[2017-01-01 02:33:23] MikeHunt : hit 1k on china then dropped
[2017-01-01 02:33:29] MikeHunt : i hope he's right
[2017-01-01 02:34:19] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: analysts are always wrong... don't you trade on wall street?
[2017-01-01 02:35:04] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: http://www.businessinsider.com/dennis-gartman-crude-oil-call-2016-1
[2017-01-01 02:36:26] nOgAnOo : ARE YOU ALL SLEEPING?
[2017-01-01 02:36:29] nOgAnOo : DO SOMETHING
[2017-01-01 02:36:33] nOgAnOo : :)
[2017-01-01 02:37:00] $$ : btc dumping
[2017-01-01 02:37:18] $$ : btc cant handle the high prices in 2017
[2017-01-01 02:37:23] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: no i dont, he may well be wrong, im just hoping he's not
[2017-01-01 02:37:27] $$ : going to crumble under the weight of the bags
[2017-01-01 02:38:00] MikeHunt : the way i see it is in new years, everyones broke
[2017-01-01 02:38:10] MikeHunt : too much xmas etc.
[2017-01-01 02:38:34] MikeHunt : but being a china bubble that may not apply
[2017-01-01 02:39:30] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: good luck
[2017-01-01 02:39:40] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: it is going your way now.
[2017-01-01 02:40:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 32 @ 0.014030
[2017-01-01 02:40:53] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: thanks, to you to as well
[2017-01-01 02:46:10] $$ : wtf @ ETH
[2017-01-01 02:46:30] zach719 : https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
[2017-01-01 02:46:43] zach719 : only 2% are buying...
[2017-01-01 02:49:02] MikeHunt : low volume
[2017-01-01 02:49:25] alejandromasari : ZionistCash s the next one to rip in the upcoming weeks
[2017-01-01 02:49:30] alejandromasari : ZCash
[2017-01-01 02:51:18] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: why do you call it zionist cash?
[2017-01-01 02:51:43] alejandromasari : it is made and funded by israel
[2017-01-01 02:51:47] alejandromasari : Zionist land