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[2016-12-31 18:12:22] javierstone : lets breach 30
[2016-12-31 18:16:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 500 @ 1009.67
[2016-12-31 18:18:42] javierstone : moar moar moar
[2016-12-31 18:20:01] Naloxone : Huobi didn't pump the last dip with 500 BTC market order. We are dumping!
[2016-12-31 18:20:23] javierstone : Naloxone: shhhh don't ruin the surprise
[2016-12-31 18:21:41] javierstone : breached
[2016-12-31 18:21:42] m3s : here we go boiz
[2016-12-31 18:21:56] $$ : fail pump
[2016-12-31 18:22:17] $$ : turns into new years dump
[2016-12-31 18:22:37] javierstone : down down down
[2016-12-31 18:22:50] Tr : china dupes and scams everyone
[2016-12-31 18:23:05] $$ : china bull flags and noobs dump
[2016-12-31 18:23:30] m3s : how do i make a limit order that was executed into a limit stop ?
[2016-12-31 18:23:32] Tr : "Hey silly westerner, buy my ChinaCoins on New year only 960 dollah, ching chong"
[2016-12-31 18:24:18] javierstone : Tr: uhh racist
[2016-12-31 18:28:33] MikeHunt : $$: happens evry year
[2016-12-31 18:28:47] m3s : how do I set a stop loss here?
[2016-12-31 18:28:53] MikeHunt : m3s: stop market?
[2016-12-31 18:30:29] m3s : not sure how to buy it. says it will be executed after price reaches stop price ?
[2016-12-31 18:30:47] PARAFFIN : failpump? LOL
[2016-12-31 18:34:29] BitMEX_Wally : m3s: Are you long or short?
[2016-12-31 18:39:07] BitMEX_Wally : m3s: If you are currently long then you would submit a Stop Market order to Sell with a Stop Price below your entry price. If the market drops then it will trigger a sell order to close your long position
[2016-12-31 18:49:04] rapidtrades : m3s: do the exact same thing if ur short
[2016-12-31 18:49:42] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Wally: I have GA set up as my 2FA and I'm on my phone. I like to check the chart every now and again but I get logged out too quick. Is there a way to change the timing so I don't get logged out every time?
[2016-12-31 18:52:09] cookielito : so friggen slow
[2016-12-31 18:53:37] zach719 : can the market please do something
[2016-12-31 18:53:43] zach719 : its so slow
[2016-12-31 18:53:52] rapidtrades : market will hit 1k o new year's
[2016-12-31 18:54:14] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: +1
[2016-12-31 18:54:25] BTCDJS : happy new year buddy
[2016-12-31 18:54:59] $$ : BTCDJS: check the settings so you dont get logged out while on phone
[2016-12-31 18:55:13] $$ : Safe Session Duration
[2016-12-31 18:55:17] $$ : uncheck that
[2016-12-31 18:56:47] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: we're not there yet!
[2016-12-31 19:02:17] BTCDJS : $$: thanks
[2016-12-31 19:04:49] viptrader : Hello
[2016-12-31 19:05:08] viptrader : Is liq price is according to bistamp price?
[2016-12-31 19:05:24] javierstone : kaiko index
[2016-12-31 19:05:28] viptrader : Thanks and happy new year :)
[2016-12-31 19:05:37] viptrader : Kaiko?
[2016-12-31 19:05:42] javierstone : google it
[2016-12-31 19:06:11] viptrader : Any serious answer plz?
[2016-12-31 19:06:34] javierstone : http://bitmex.kaiko.com/
[2016-12-31 19:06:55] javierstone : can u atleast click link?
[2016-12-31 19:07:52] javierstone : down down we go
[2016-12-31 19:16:12] SilverKnight : Just closed my long...
[2016-12-31 19:16:30] SilverKnight : volume is dropping off at this price...
[2016-12-31 19:16:46] Tr : new year 1000$ euphoria vanishing away
[2016-12-31 19:17:28] javierstone : thank you for your monies
[2016-12-31 19:18:28] SilverKnight : javierstone: were you talking to me? I was long from 952...
[2016-12-31 19:18:37] SilverKnight : made a fair bit on that one...
[2016-12-31 19:22:09] MikeHunt : http://www.buttcoinfoundation.org/stagesofabubble.png
[2016-12-31 19:26:46] Turbo : MikeHunt: this wont be a bubble until well after 4000 USD
[2016-12-31 19:29:25] Turbo : well now thats interesting, u guys are net short right now
[2016-12-31 19:30:50] MikeHunt : Turbo: it always crashes around new year
[2016-12-31 19:31:02] MikeHunt : Turbo: some sort of curse
[2016-12-31 19:31:57] Turbo : well, I've been out of the market for a couple days now, just watching, we shall see
[2016-12-31 19:32:35] MikeHunt : Turbo: imo if it was going to go up major style it would have already
[2016-12-31 19:32:47] Tr : its not going down, huobi wont let it
[2016-12-31 19:33:17] Tr : any 5 yuan move down instantly moved with bot buy walls that reverse the direction back up
[2016-12-31 19:33:45] Turbo : so that leads me back to not trading, lol, dont have to pay funding fees
[2016-12-31 19:33:49] MikeHunt : well a major crash is also precipitated by an event so it may just bumble down slowly back to the mean
[2016-12-31 19:34:01] MikeHunt : as nothings happened so far
[2016-12-31 19:35:20] Turbo : heading out for a bit, ttyl
[2016-12-31 19:35:22] cryptobull : incoming dip just below 960...
[2016-12-31 19:36:04] Nooby : Edcon is coming soon guys! Time to buy eth!!!
[2016-12-31 19:36:15] Tr : there is not dip
[2016-12-31 19:36:26] Tr : if it goes to like 6820 watch instantly
[2016-12-31 19:36:33] Tr : 1min graph
[2016-12-31 19:36:41] Tr : 10 green candles forming perfect ladder
[2016-12-31 19:36:45] Tr : china style
[2016-12-31 19:36:57] Nooby : Less than 15 days for EDCON... ether to the moon!!
[2016-12-31 19:37:31] Tr : ethere cant go up
[2016-12-31 19:37:34] Tr : no china to pump it
[2016-12-31 19:37:35] Tr : too bad
[2016-12-31 19:37:49] MikeHunt : Tr: i think whats happened now is a microcosm of nov 30th - dec 5th
[2016-12-31 19:38:05] MikeHunt : happening*
[2016-12-31 19:38:16] Tr : what do u mean
[2016-12-31 19:38:26] tb : you mean etc to the moon?
[2016-12-31 19:38:28] Nooby : Oh yeah not true at all!! Ether will pump soon, lot of thing will be announced in edcon soon
[2016-12-31 19:38:46] Tr : you cant pump a coin on western exchange...
[2016-12-31 19:38:59] MikeHunt : Nooby: problem with ETC is they condemned it by bailing out the DAO and BTC is going to copy them
[2016-12-31 19:39:31] Nooby : ETC is not ETH ...
[2016-12-31 19:40:21] Tr : china is scared as shit of ETH
[2016-12-31 19:40:38] Tr : "no mining soon? we are fucked, ching chong, better pump btc with our crooked exchange"
[2016-12-31 19:41:15] Nooby : Edcon will change their point of view, i buy it that s all :)
[2016-12-31 19:41:54] MikeHunt : Nooby: Eth is what i meant
[2016-12-31 19:42:00] MikeHunt : Nooby: ETC? hmm ill go look
[2016-12-31 19:42:32] MikeHunt : yeah ETC has a chance as its the untainted version
[2016-12-31 19:42:43] Tr : lol
[2016-12-31 19:42:46] Tr : ETC is a scam
[2016-12-31 19:42:50] MikeHunt : but it still suffers from the same problem as other altcoins that bitcoin can simply copy it
[2016-12-31 19:43:10] Nooby : ETC is not supported by too much miners
[2016-12-31 19:45:04] Tr : look huobi 5min
[2016-12-31 19:45:07] MikeHunt : Nooby: both etc/eth are dead imo
[2016-12-31 19:45:07] Tr : such a fake buy wall lmao
[2016-12-31 19:45:32] Tr : eth is freaking great to use though
[2016-12-31 19:45:36] Tr : pretty much instant transactions
[2016-12-31 19:45:48] Tr : after it btc feels like using vhs
[2016-12-31 19:45:58] Nooby : No, ether will rise again, DAO projects are coming back soon and I think will work fine this time
[2016-12-31 19:46:03] MikeHunt : Tr: yeh i expect some altcoins like monero etc. have their uses but bitcoin can just copy them
[2016-12-31 19:46:28] Tr : MikeHunt coding is a little more complicated than jsut copy pasting work of others
[2016-12-31 19:46:39] MikeHunt : Nooby: and if it doesn't work they'll just bail it out again?
[2016-12-31 19:47:01] MikeHunt : Tr: i thought the hardest part is acception with the miners?
[2016-12-31 19:47:30] Tr : MikeHunt not sure if refunding investors counts as bailout there
[2016-12-31 19:47:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 5 @ 7080.1
[2016-12-31 19:47:41] Nooby : And so what? Did you loose something last time? I didn't! I get all my ETH back so... I found you don't try you never succeed
[2016-12-31 19:48:05] Naloxone : New Year dump!
[2016-12-31 19:48:15] Tr : bitcoin forked in his early days to save the network from a bug
[2016-12-31 19:48:24] Tr : doesnt mean its "tainted"
[2016-12-31 19:48:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 14213 @ 1006.57
[2016-12-31 19:48:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 6000 @ 1005.62
[2016-12-31 19:49:24] MikeHunt : Tr: imo with eth it wasnt a bug
[2016-12-31 19:49:36] MikeHunt : Tr: it functioned as intended but the results were unpopular
[2016-12-31 19:49:46] MikeHunt : Tr: should gox have been bailed out?
[2016-12-31 19:50:36] Tr : thats not really a good analogy
[2016-12-31 19:50:38] Tr : maybe
[2016-12-31 19:51:00] Tr : thats assuming that gox was really hacked
[2016-12-31 19:51:06] Tr : and wasnt just a ponzi
[2016-12-31 19:51:58] Tr : imagine if all money "stolen" from gox were locked in a accout for 30days +
[2016-12-31 19:52:08] Tr : and you could return it to the customers without rolling back the transactions
[2016-12-31 19:52:13] Tr : looks like a pretty good deal tome
[2016-12-31 19:53:01] BitMEX_Sam : It's clearly had some undesirable effects on ETH
[2016-12-31 19:53:25] Tr : i think hardowrk were met very well by the market
[2016-12-31 19:53:29] BitMEX_Sam : It's disingenuous IMO to say "code is law and can't be changed" and then say "well, unless it has undesired effects" when it does something you don't like.
[2016-12-31 19:54:10] BitMEX_Sam : Of course, it points to a more fundamental CS problem at its core: it is extremely difficult to write "correct" programs, and your programs must be correct if you're going to use them as immutable contracts.
[2016-12-31 19:54:11] orly : altering the history of a blockchain by community consensus without an actual bug is bad enough
[2016-12-31 19:54:30] MikeHunt : Tr: perhaps the analogy was poor but my point is popularism shouldn't *trump* reason
[2016-12-31 19:54:32] orly : the fact that it happened in the interest of a rich minority makes it even worse
[2016-12-31 19:54:45] MikeHunt : orly: +1
[2016-12-31 19:54:52] BitMEX_Sam : Emin Gun Sirer and his team at Cornell is doing a good job of attempting to formally verify these contracts but evidence points to Solidity being fundamentally broken.
[2016-12-31 19:54:53] Tr : how it was the interest of rich minority
[2016-12-31 19:54:53] Tr : wtf
[2016-12-31 19:55:00] Tr : thats the most retarded thing i've heard
[2016-12-31 19:55:15] MikeHunt : Tr: apparently some of the eth devs were in on the contract and got raped
[2016-12-31 19:55:44] Tr : perphaps you should read liek btc forums
[2016-12-31 19:55:47] Tr : less*
[2016-12-31 19:56:17] BitMEX_Sam : All evidence points to it being nearly impossible to create Turing-complete smart contracts without serious security risk, but of course they become much less useful if so
[2016-12-31 19:57:17] orly : we can't even create offline, centralized programs without bugs
[2016-12-31 19:57:26] BitMEX_Sam : Exactly.
[2016-12-31 19:57:45] BitMEX_Sam : You need a language that can be formally verified, but such languages are incredibly difficult to develop and develop for
[2016-12-31 19:57:57] BitMEX_Sam : It's certainly beyond the reach of the average JS hacker, for instance.
[2016-12-31 19:58:19] BitMEX_Sam : This is a great article about what it might take to actually produce reliable software: https://www.fastcompany.com/28121/they-write-right-stuff
[2016-12-31 19:59:34] MikeHunt : perhaps the best way is to assume it will be hacked and have an insurance pool
[2016-12-31 20:01:28] BitMEX_Sam : http://babelfish.arc.nasa.gov/trac/jpf/wiki/WikiStart is an interesting project that came out of this idea
[2016-12-31 20:02:22] BitMEX_Sam : Perhaps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Pathfinder is more clear because their Wiki is not
[2016-12-31 20:03:09] BitMEX_Sam : But yes, I agree with that basic premise @MikeHunt; any system using Smart Contract *must* accept that bugs are present, not only in the runtime and blockchain but in the contracts themselves, and must be able to compensate for it.
[2016-12-31 20:03:16] dodic : ETH is a fiat
[2016-12-31 20:03:21] nOgAnOo : Good morning, Sam. <3
[2016-12-31 20:03:26] BitMEX_Sam : Unfortunately that means trusted human intervention is essentially required, and who gets to run it?
[2016-12-31 20:03:43] dodic : foundation determines monetary policy
[2016-12-31 20:04:04] BitMEX_Sam : Morning @nOgAnOo
[2016-12-31 20:04:30] nOgAnOo : I'm busy turning my 2 remaining dollars into 10,000
[2016-12-31 20:04:42] nOgAnOo : Gonna hedge with a Steemit article. :)
[2016-12-31 20:05:25] nOgAnOo : I just found out my Camel Cash collection is worth like 1000 dollars on ebay.. been collecting it buying bulk auctions for a few months.. gonna make 20x gains on that.
[2016-12-31 20:09:59] orly : BitMEX_Sam: itneresting article about the shuttle software
[2016-12-31 20:10:18] BitMEX_Sam : orly: Yeah that's one of the best.
[2016-12-31 20:10:26] orly : first, i think we need to stop this madness of duplication in the industry
[2016-12-31 20:10:58] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah - everything gets rewritten over and over again, often buggier
[2016-12-31 20:11:05] orly : like, why the hell do we need hundreds of competing products, reimplementations of the same thing in dozens of languages
[2016-12-31 20:11:23] BitMEX_Sam : See also https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html
[2016-12-31 20:11:28] BitMEX_Sam : I think there are good reasons and bad.
[2016-12-31 20:11:52] BitMEX_Sam : Sometimes, like in the case of Rust, the software community as a whole has finally decided to recognize that the process itself is broken, and the only way to fix it is to think differently
[2016-12-31 20:12:16] BitMEX_Sam : And we may see rewrites of many core pieces of software in the near future as a result, certainly for the better.
[2016-12-31 20:12:27] BitMEX_Sam : In the other case, there's always Atwood's law.
[2016-12-31 20:12:29] BitMEX_Sam : I'm guilty of that one.
[2016-12-31 20:13:17] orly : yeah that's fine, I mean, Rust does add safety over 40+ year old languages designed for the same purpose
[2016-12-31 20:13:35] orly : it's fine if we can improve on things every couple dozen years
[2016-12-31 20:14:41] BitMEX_Sam : Another big problem is that it's just downright __hard__ to build solid software that can actually be reused
[2016-12-31 20:15:04] cryptobull : perfect dip, buys filled :D
[2016-12-31 20:15:05] BitMEX_Sam : And you often end up building so many options and edge cases into the damned thing that someone else pops up with a "like X, but lightweight!" version of your lib
[2016-12-31 20:15:07] orly : but how much effort has gone into rebuilding the same thing in python, ruby, javascript, what have you
[2016-12-31 20:15:13] orly : they are essentially the same language
[2016-12-31 20:15:26] BitMEX_Sam : Sort of. Of course the details are what matter
[2016-12-31 20:15:34] BitMEX_Sam : Perhaps we'll see some consolidation with WASM
[2016-12-31 20:15:51] BitMEX_Sam : Part of the reason everything gets rewritten in JS is so we can run it in the browser, but we're coming very close to no longer needing the rewrite
[2016-12-31 20:16:22] BitMEX_Sam : There are certain shell programs I'd love to use in the browser, for instance, even as core BitMEX libs, but today there's just too much overhead
[2016-12-31 20:16:51] BitMEX_Sam : That will change in 2017, though. I'm expecting major strides to be taken on the web, and BitMEX itself to become much faster by this time next year.
[2016-12-31 20:17:38] startChat : What on the web is changing?
[2016-12-31 20:18:18] BitMEX_Sam : WASM is coming and will likely be stable enough for some experimental use in a few months
[2016-12-31 20:18:39] javierstone : uhoh longs
[2016-12-31 20:18:40] BitMEX_Sam : ReactJS, which is the core lib we're using for the UI here, will be getting a new priority-based renderer that will allow us to almost always hit 60fps
[2016-12-31 20:19:03] BitMEX_Sam : We might also be able to farm much of the render work off onto multiple threads soon.
[2016-12-31 20:19:13] BitMEX_Sam : On top of that, perhaps we'll see a semi-stable version of Servo by then.
[2016-12-31 20:19:47] BitMEX_Sam : The world has been multicore since 2003 but software is still catching up
[2016-12-31 20:20:05] orly : I think the web itself is probably the biggest failure of the industry
[2016-12-31 20:20:19] orly : i mean, in a sense, it's good, multiplatform and all that
[2016-12-31 20:20:36] orly : but we've spent decades reimplementing everything just so it runs in browsers
[2016-12-31 20:20:40] BitMEX_Sam : I agree, it's simultaneously awful and great
[2016-12-31 20:20:47] orly : in the mean time, browsers have become beasts
[2016-12-31 20:20:52] BitMEX_Sam : It's great in that we've finally figured out a way to run untrusted code pretty reliably
[2016-12-31 20:21:03] BitMEX_Sam : It's awful in that it so clearly wasn't made for that, it's slow, layout is still awful and there's a million gotchas
[2016-12-31 20:21:28] BitMEX_Sam : But it's getting a lot better. Content-Security-Policy and Flexbox are two of my recent favorites
[2016-12-31 20:21:38] BitMEX_Sam : And of course, the whole Babel ecosystem, Flowtype, etc
[2016-12-31 20:21:38] javierstone : 89?
[2016-12-31 20:21:41] javierstone : do we go down
[2016-12-31 20:21:49] javierstone : oh yes we do
[2016-12-31 20:22:34] orly : yeah but we're cramming an operating system into an application that was designed for documents :/
[2016-12-31 20:23:09] orly : it's kinda hard, the whole industry is like 50 year old, yet we can't just start over and say, guys, we fcked up, here's the new os everyone uses from now on
[2016-12-31 20:23:27] orly : at the same time, we can't keep building abstractions on top of each other forever
[2016-12-31 20:24:07] startChat : hard fork it
[2016-12-31 20:24:16] $$ : it's getting easier to get away from microsoft though
[2016-12-31 20:26:11] rapidtrades : Guys did u hear?
[2016-12-31 20:26:34] rapidtrades : Microsoft will allow bitcoin to be typed INSIDE EXCEL
[2016-12-31 20:26:40] rapidtrades : unreal amirite?
[2016-12-31 20:26:45] javierstone : paradigm shift
[2016-12-31 20:26:49] startChat : rapidtrades: this good news
[2016-12-31 20:27:18] BitMEX_Sam : orly: Yeah, it's just so difficult to build new systems. Look at Plan9 or even how long ZFS or BTRFS have taken to get stable
[2016-12-31 20:27:21] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5l8vx5/bitcoin_support_coming_to_microsoft_office_365/
[2016-12-31 20:28:41] rapidtrades : back in the day it took one mainstream article to pump bitcin 50%
[2016-12-31 20:29:01] rapidtrades : now it takes none...we've truly advanced
[2016-12-31 20:29:43] orly : BitMEX_Sam: yeah there are a couple of attempts, like plan9 or squeak but they're certainly not getting traction in this pop industry
[2016-12-31 20:33:21] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: lets pump to 1350 on that news
[2016-12-31 20:34:26] javierstone : 6800 breached
[2016-12-31 20:35:01] rapidtrades : 1e dropped from my pants so I leave it on the counter cos I was in a hurry
[2016-12-31 20:35:11] rapidtrades : I come back few hrs later and the cleaning lady took it
[2016-12-31 20:35:29] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: bitch
[2016-12-31 20:35:52] javierstone : u'll thank her tm
[2016-12-31 20:35:54] BTCDJS : You can't possibly trade on e's
[2016-12-31 20:37:06] BTCDJS : Must be really confident about price move
[2016-12-31 20:38:04] rapidtrades : Did she think it was a tip...or is she stealin
[2016-12-31 20:38:17] rapidtrades : good thing there's safe here
[2016-12-31 20:38:26] justinlooking : you most definitely can trade on e :)
[2016-12-31 20:39:53] rapidtrades : what's E
[2016-12-31 20:40:00] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: she saw it and thought "get in! Sunshine on a rainy day"
[2016-12-31 20:40:14] rapidtrades : lool
[2016-12-31 21:06:42] evilminer : rocket countdown...?
[2016-12-31 21:08:55] $$ : damn
[2016-12-31 21:09:45] $$ : btc gonna pump a ton
[2016-12-31 21:37:02] MikeHunt : got less than 3 hours to get 1k by 2017
[2016-12-31 21:37:24] $$ : 2017 will be known as year of the bitcoin
[2016-12-31 21:37:38] $$ : trillion dollar market cap
[2016-12-31 21:37:48] MikeHunt : yeh
[2016-12-31 21:37:53] MikeHunt : i just dont think this current pump will be
[2016-12-31 21:38:24] $$ : maybe 100 billion market cap this pump
[2016-12-31 21:38:31] $$ : 1 step at a time
[2016-12-31 21:41:02] rapidtrades : yes I'm sure pl wil dump 90bil in this cestpool of a market
[2016-12-31 21:44:17] Angelika : rapidtrades: sup rapidtrades
[2016-12-31 21:44:33] Angelika : Happy New Year!!!
[2016-12-31 21:45:39] Angelika : I guess not quite yet for you
[2016-12-31 21:45:50] nOgAnOo : Hey Angelika!!!
[2016-12-31 21:45:53] nOgAnOo : <3
[2016-12-31 21:46:09] Angelika : nOgAnOo: hey
[2016-12-31 21:46:10] nOgAnOo : I am up to 3.50 on my 40 cent account now
[2016-12-31 21:46:16] Angelika : are you Japanese?
[2016-12-31 21:46:21] sleger : nOgAnOo: expressing your love to Angelika?
[2016-12-31 21:46:27] nOgAnOo : Well on my way to my goal of 10,000. No, my girlfriend is in Japan tho
[2016-12-31 21:46:47] nOgAnOo : Yes, I have an e-crush on her. Though my friend said she's probably a guy
[2016-12-31 21:46:58] sleger : it's Rado second accounr
[2016-12-31 21:47:01] sleger : *t
[2016-12-31 21:47:01] Angelika : nOgAnOo: how many contracts did you buy with 40 cents?
[2016-12-31 21:47:09] sleger : Angelika: 0.4 ?
[2016-12-31 21:47:14] nOgAnOo : I started trading 30 or 40
[2016-12-31 21:47:18] nOgAnOo : or 20 at a time
[2016-12-31 21:47:21] nOgAnOo : just scalping
[2016-12-31 21:47:28] Angelika : nOgAnOo: you can't buy less than 1 contract
[2016-12-31 21:47:29] nOgAnOo : Up 700% in a day
[2016-12-31 21:47:33] Angelika : sleger: traitor
[2016-12-31 21:47:53] sleger : i dont like fake chicks
[2016-12-31 21:47:57] sleger : only arthur likes that
[2016-12-31 21:48:02] Angelika : lol
[2016-12-31 21:48:10] nOgAnOo : I play girls in online games all the time
[2016-12-31 21:48:15] Angelika : this is my wifes name
[2016-12-31 21:48:20] nOgAnOo : would rather look at beautiful female
[2016-12-31 21:48:26] Angelika : I want to introduce her to futures trading
[2016-12-31 21:48:30] nOgAnOo : Spelled with a k IRL?
[2016-12-31 21:48:35] Angelika : she used to trade options with me back in the day
[2016-12-31 21:48:59] Angelika : she will use the account in the future
[2016-12-31 21:49:09] Angelika : I guess you will notice when she posts
[2016-12-31 21:49:34] rapidtrades : wait u traded options?
[2016-12-31 21:49:40] rapidtrades : like on the floor or what
[2016-12-31 21:49:48] Angelika : no
[2016-12-31 21:49:48] Angelika : online
[2016-12-31 21:49:55] rapidtrades : selling?
[2016-12-31 21:50:13] nOgAnOo : oh man 84 percent leveraged right now
[2016-12-31 21:50:26] nOgAnOo : entry 962.43 short
[2016-12-31 21:50:29] nOgAnOo : hoping for the big dump
[2016-12-31 21:50:35] Angelika : that is what I wanted to do but back then was hard to get an account where you can sell naked
[2016-12-31 21:50:37] nOgAnOo : dump all over everyones new years parade
[2016-12-31 21:50:48] nOgAnOo : Chinese noodle dump
[2016-12-31 21:51:09] Angelika : nOgAnOo: hope will take you places and make you rich
[2016-12-31 21:51:22] nOgAnOo : I'm building a private resort
[2016-12-31 21:51:25] nOgAnOo : when I make 1 million
[2016-12-31 21:51:30] nOgAnOo : I already have the land
[2016-12-31 21:51:38] Angelika : where?
[2016-12-31 21:51:45] juchide : Dear bitmex open please futures on XCP!
[2016-12-31 21:51:57] nOgAnOo : Certainly not in the USA, coz if I lived there I couldn't trade here. :)
[2016-12-31 21:52:01] rapidtrades : ah XCP
[2016-12-31 21:52:08] rapidtrades : nOgAnOo: :)
[2016-12-31 21:52:25] Chumba : juchide: Never heard of XCP, what is it about?
[2016-12-31 21:52:34] nOgAnOo : But yeah my resort will be in Wisconsin most likely
[2016-12-31 21:52:44] Angelika : juchide: no volume on XCP
[2016-12-31 21:52:49] Chumba : looks shit
[2016-12-31 21:53:08] nOgAnOo : Unless I plan a southern farm with citrus. Already working on growing a lemon orchard and exotic fruits.
[2016-12-31 21:53:10] Angelika : nOgAnOo: I thought you have the land already
[2016-12-31 21:53:15] Angelika : so where is this land?
[2016-12-31 21:53:25] nOgAnOo : The land is Wisconsin
[2016-12-31 21:53:33] nOgAnOo : But I want a southern plot for citrus trees
[2016-12-31 21:53:36] sleger : all of it thats huge
[2016-12-31 21:53:50] sleger : sell half you'll have more than a million
[2016-12-31 21:53:53] nOgAnOo : So I may decide to get new land.. because the land is the cheap part
[2016-12-31 21:54:06] nOgAnOo : the 3 story bunker is gonna cost 500,000+
[2016-12-31 21:54:12] nOgAnOo : have a food forest inside
[2016-12-31 21:54:15] nOgAnOo : skatepark..
[2016-12-31 21:54:17] nOgAnOo : beach
[2016-12-31 21:54:27] nOgAnOo : tool shop and garage
[2016-12-31 21:54:55] nOgAnOo : it will be like that movie with Jim Carrey where he's secretly in a studio on live TV
[2016-12-31 21:54:56] sleger : nOgAnOo: do you have to pay real estate tax in the US on undeveloped land ?
[2016-12-31 21:55:40] nOgAnOo : sleger, my parents own the land so I don't know anything about that.. but I think he pays 500 dollars a year tax on the 40 acres of land.. 1.6 acres of it is a field considered "farm land"
[2016-12-31 21:55:59] nOgAnOo : I could ask him if you really need to know.
[2016-12-31 21:56:38] sleger : just curious, but so the answer seems to be yes, but its low
[2016-12-31 21:56:52] nOgAnOo : it's 35 miles from any city
[2016-12-31 21:57:02] nOgAnOo : Good place to start a Jesus Cult
[2016-12-31 21:57:21] nOgAnOo : All I need is a truckload of AR-15s and body armor
[2016-12-31 21:58:14] nOgAnOo : I am going to build the most beautiful resort on earth.. modeled after Busch Gardens/Garden of Eden/Hanging gardens of Babylon
[2016-12-31 21:58:21] nOgAnOo : With a little bit of Disney
[2016-12-31 21:59:02] nOgAnOo : 60mph go karts.. hang gliding.. hovercrafts.. hoverboards.. jet packs.. private helicopters..
[2016-12-31 21:59:23] nOgAnOo : Pretty much a Bill Gates compound
[2016-12-31 21:59:45] nOgAnOo : Salad bars with live greens. (my own little twist)
[2016-12-31 21:59:59] nOgAnOo : The salad bar was invented in my area actually.
[2016-12-31 22:00:02] nOgAnOo : So it's fitting.
[2016-12-31 22:00:34] nOgAnOo : Ok guys I'm all in short. Let's dump this wreck of a blockchain.
[2016-12-31 22:00:57] nOgAnOo : Dump it back to 10 dollars where it belongs.
[2016-12-31 22:02:09] $$ : lol nOgAnOo
[2016-12-31 22:02:44] $$ : no one wants to go to wisconsin in the winter
[2016-12-31 22:03:17] nOgAnOo : That's why I'm thinking down south.. plus my land doesn't have a waterfall on it.. and that's a top priority for me
[2016-12-31 22:03:26] nOgAnOo : I would have to build it artificially otherwise
[2016-12-31 22:03:44] nOgAnOo : but fun can be had in winter too
[2016-12-31 22:04:02] nOgAnOo : snow angels.. snow cones.. snowboarding.. snowballs..
[2016-12-31 22:04:48] nOgAnOo : Yes China Dump!
[2016-12-31 22:04:54] rms : i'm out of position totally for the first time in a month
[2016-12-31 22:04:54] rms : feels good
[2016-12-31 22:08:20] nOgAnOo : I see strong indications of a Hill and Valley formation on the 1 minute
[2016-12-31 22:08:40] tb : rms: did you lose your place on the leaderboard?
[2016-12-31 22:08:54] tb : or just hidden your name?
[2016-12-31 22:11:35] rms : hidden. i moved up a bit. ;)
[2016-12-31 22:12:48] rms : but i think chance of dumps until the holiday is over is too high to stay long, and i don't short bitcoin ever
[2016-12-31 22:14:21] tb : nice
[2016-12-31 22:14:25] tb : what's your typical trade size?
[2016-12-31 22:14:38] tb : in terms of notional
[2016-12-31 22:15:28] rms : i play along with whatever the market maker is doing, 20 or 25k contracts
[2016-12-31 22:16:06] javierstone : rms: how can u tell what the market maker is doing?
[2016-12-31 22:16:23] nOgAnOo : his order size
[2016-12-31 22:17:21] tb : so you only hold 25k contracts at atime?
[2016-12-31 22:17:57] rms : no, i've held more than a million
[2016-12-31 22:18:14] tb : jesus lol
[2016-12-31 22:18:21] tb : at what kind of leverage?
[2016-12-31 22:18:31] rms : 5-7x
[2016-12-31 22:19:01] rms : margin requirements get way more expensive here when you have more open contracts, so you can't really sanely do 20x at high volume
[2016-12-31 22:19:13] tb : yeah
[2016-12-31 22:19:23] tb : and the initial margin fucks you hard if you get liquidated
[2016-12-31 22:19:30] tb : esp when your risk limit is higher
[2016-12-31 22:21:00] nOgAnOo : rms, I'm trying to trade my way up from 40 cents to 10,000 dollars.. I'm up to 3.50 right now in 1 day
[2016-12-31 22:21:18] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: but will it last 2 weeks though? :)
[2016-12-31 22:21:30] nOgAnOo : i hope so. don't be so cynical, Mike
[2016-12-31 22:21:37] rms : short REP while it's above spot then
[2016-12-31 22:21:43] rms : is my tip
[2016-12-31 22:21:44] rms : ;)
[2016-12-31 22:23:47] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: i hope it does its just the way you said about jesus being the reason it will go up that threw me off a bit
[2016-12-31 22:24:20] nOgAnOo : Mike, my live has been miraculously blessed already. I have no reason to believe that will change.
[2016-12-31 22:24:38] nOgAnOo : I went from having nothing last year to having nearly everything I want right now.
[2016-12-31 22:24:42] justinlooking : rms: what's ur rekt record :)
[2016-12-31 22:25:09] nOgAnOo : rektord
[2016-12-31 22:25:54] zach719 : i dont understand now
[2016-12-31 22:26:02] zach719 : its just holding steady at 960
[2016-12-31 22:26:17] zach719 : and i dont wanna buy in cause i keep thinking its gonna dump but it never does
[2016-12-31 22:26:25] MikeHunt : zach719: maybe its like titanic wen its up in the air during the sinking, its just... waiting
[2016-12-31 22:26:55] zach719 : MikeHunt: lmao
[2016-12-31 22:27:32] nOgAnOo : Ok I'm up to 4 dollars already! up 10x from yesterday
[2016-12-31 22:27:42] rms : i cross margin everything so don't really get rekt'd
[2016-12-31 22:27:55] nOgAnOo : have you ever gotten liquidated rms?
[2016-12-31 22:28:02] rms : maybe 3 btc worth on etc?
[2016-12-31 22:28:17] nOgAnOo : I had my worst day ever 2 days ago trading overtired
[2016-12-31 22:28:20] nOgAnOo : lost 230 dollars.
[2016-12-31 22:28:21] rms : which just happened cause i took it off cross margin to go to sleep
[2016-12-31 22:28:29] rms : and it would have woken up at a profit if i left it at cross
[2016-12-31 22:28:49] nOgAnOo : That's happened to me many times.. barely hitting a margin call then I would have been in huge profit..
[2016-12-31 22:29:00] nOgAnOo : overleveraging.. I am new to trading tho so it's expected
[2016-12-31 22:29:36] MikeHunt : hopefully new years crash can save me or i might get rekt
[2016-12-31 22:29:39] nOgAnOo : This is my favorite platform to trade on out of the dozens I've been on in the past
[2016-12-31 22:29:49] nOgAnOo : I used to do altcoins.. since the first exchange actually.'
[2016-12-31 22:30:22] nOgAnOo : Now that I understand the mechanics and order fee system.
[2016-12-31 22:30:59] zach719 : nOgAnOo: i agree
[2016-12-31 22:31:05] nOgAnOo : buy my 222 pls someone
[2016-12-31 22:31:07] nOgAnOo : :)
[2016-12-31 22:31:14] tb : my favorite is when you get rekt
[2016-12-31 22:31:38] zach719 : tb: amen
[2016-12-31 22:31:39] tb : and buy back from the liquidation bot at better than your liquidation price
[2016-12-31 22:33:06] tb : s/liquidation price/bankruptcy price/
[2016-12-31 22:33:29] nOgAnOo : I need multiple whales as friends..
[2016-12-31 22:33:35] nOgAnOo : and to fill my tiny orders for a while
[2016-12-31 22:33:47] nOgAnOo : and let me know when they are making moves
[2016-12-31 22:33:56] nOgAnOo : that would ensure my success
[2016-12-31 22:34:09] nOgAnOo : *does whale call*
[2016-12-31 22:36:49] Angelika : Did the 20k MM increase to 25k
[2016-12-31 22:36:55] evilminer : Who wants to light this rocket?
[2016-12-31 22:37:18] mariomarco : Do eeet
[2016-12-31 22:38:49] evilminer : Will it explode in my face? That's why I'll let someone else do it. ;-)
[2016-12-31 22:41:06] BTCDJS : Heeeeerrrrrreeeeeeee wwwwwwweeeeeeeere ggggggggggoooooooo
[2016-12-31 22:42:01] evilminer : LOTS of resistance up here! We'll get through eventually though. :-)
[2016-12-31 22:44:35] rapidtrades : RUN BITCORN RUN!
[2016-12-31 22:44:39] MikeHunt : 1.25 hours left
[2016-12-31 22:45:56] sleger : MikeHunt: your parents also lock you up in the basement on christmas eve, not cool ?
[2016-12-31 22:46:08] sleger : new years eve
[2016-12-31 22:46:32] MikeHunt : sleger: im always locked in the basement
[2016-12-31 22:48:27] MikeHunt : i look like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRoSL0kdQFk
[2016-12-31 22:48:46] sleger : not clicking any video coming from you, granny porn isnt my thing
[2016-12-31 22:49:15] BTCDJS : sleger: +1
[2016-12-31 22:49:51] MikeHunt : sleger: does youtube allow granny porn?
[2016-12-31 22:50:05] sleger : how would i know
[2016-12-31 22:51:21] MikeHunt : sleger: you brought it up so i figured...
[2016-12-31 22:51:38] sleger : you must have misread what i typed
[2016-12-31 22:52:05] evilminer : *firework explodes in face*
[2016-12-31 22:52:38] BTCDJS : Mewn
[2016-12-31 22:52:46] Ra : How come my buy orders get rejected because apparently will "lead to immdiate liquidation"" but liq rate is dollars cheaper?
[2016-12-31 22:52:57] evilminer : Bitfinex yawning.
[2016-12-31 22:57:46] nOgAnOo : Does the bull trend have legs or will the dead cat bounce? You decide!
[2016-12-31 22:58:22] nOgAnOo : My friend hates the thought of dead cats, told me never to say that around him. :)
[2016-12-31 22:58:55] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: never show him the video of a bunch of russians catapulting one
[2016-12-31 22:59:11] nOgAnOo : I love you Mike.
[2016-12-31 22:59:17] nOgAnOo : How is your relationship with Christ today?
[2016-12-31 22:59:32] nOgAnOo : Have you tried praying yet? It's the first step in the Scientific method. Test.
[2016-12-31 23:00:01] Angelika : Ra: if you are buying at the ask and Mark price which is lower is used for liquidations it could be that you can't place the order
[2016-12-31 23:00:17] MikeHunt : if it did pump, highest it could go is 1030 imo
[2016-12-31 23:00:18] Angelika : lets say you want to buy at 965, but mark price is 963
[2016-12-31 23:00:23] Angelika : $2 lower
[2016-12-31 23:00:43] nOgAnOo : Yeah, many people will panic sell around 1030.
[2016-12-31 23:00:54] MikeHunt : my liq is nearly 2k
[2016-12-31 23:00:57] MikeHunt : as a shorter
[2016-12-31 23:01:03] MikeHunt : hopefully ill be alright
[2016-12-31 23:04:27] nOgAnOo : can someone buy my 30 please
[2016-12-31 23:04:33] nOgAnOo : im too highly leveraged
[2016-12-31 23:04:35] nOgAnOo : I'm at the top
[2016-12-31 23:05:36] nOgAnOo : There we go
[2016-12-31 23:07:16] sleger : nOgAnOo: if you want to sell hit the bid
[2016-12-31 23:07:26] sleger : begging in the chat for a 30$ order is pathetic
[2016-12-31 23:07:44] nOgAnOo : your attitude is pathetic
[2016-12-31 23:07:57] nOgAnOo : since I met you the other day nothing but negative talk
[2016-12-31 23:08:06] nOgAnOo : Time to get with Jesus, sleger.
[2016-12-31 23:08:54] sleger : dude I said it first
[2016-12-31 23:08:56] nOgAnOo : someone else is scalping with 30 now.. cute
[2016-12-31 23:09:16] sleger : its me
[2016-12-31 23:09:25] sleger : just in case someone thinks about helping you
[2016-12-31 23:09:29] nOgAnOo : oh, I got my order filled
[2016-12-31 23:09:29] sleger : they will be hitting my order
[2016-12-31 23:09:31] nOgAnOo : but thanks
[2016-12-31 23:09:33] nOgAnOo : lol
[2016-12-31 23:09:43] nOgAnOo : im on the other side now
[2016-12-31 23:10:00] nOgAnOo : You are an adorable little troll arent you
[2016-12-31 23:10:25] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: well this is the trollbox...
[2016-12-31 23:10:25] rapidtrades : sleger the perma bull
[2016-12-31 23:10:37] sleger : me ?
[2016-12-31 23:10:48] sleger : i was short from 1100 till 300
[2016-12-31 23:11:14] sleger : ask anyone who was on icbit futures at the time
[2016-12-31 23:11:22] sleger : they will remember
[2016-12-31 23:11:39] MikeHunt : sleger: back in 2013?
[2016-12-31 23:11:41] nOgAnOo : if you are rich then why are you trolling me over a tiny contract when I am trying to come up
[2016-12-31 23:12:02] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: its like in the movie bugs life
[2016-12-31 23:12:04] sleger : nOgAnOo: cause you made me read it
[2016-12-31 23:12:22] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: he squashes you to make an example, its not personal
[2016-12-31 23:14:36] Ra : Thx Angelika..still kinda confused but i did finally get an order in.
[2016-12-31 23:14:45] sleger : imagine if everyone who wanted to do a trade posted it in the book then came to beg on the trollbox, this would become useless
[2016-12-31 23:17:40] orly : yeah good thing it's useful now!
[2016-12-31 23:17:49] dodic : lol imagine if you could submit orders on the trollbox, would be kind of like floor exchange
[2016-12-31 23:44:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 964.55
[2016-12-31 23:52:44] cookielito : fuckin moon
[2016-12-31 23:52:59] dodic : much optimism
[2016-12-31 23:53:32] cookielito : the f word editor is hilarious
[2016-12-31 23:54:44] seshbb : fuck
[2016-12-31 23:55:07] BTCDJS : 1000 in the next 6mins seems unlikely now
[2016-12-31 23:56:46] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: dont be negativew
[2016-12-31 23:56:51] MikeHunt : it could spike in 4 minutes
[2016-12-31 23:56:57] MikeHunt : 1200 !
[2016-12-31 23:57:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20000 @ 965.46
[2016-12-31 23:57:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 965.89
[2016-12-31 23:57:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10 @ 965.81
[2016-12-31 23:57:59] MikeHunt : if it corrects from here we might see 1k in Q1
[2016-12-31 23:58:03] MikeHunt : not all bad i guess
[2017-01-01 00:00:00] $$ : man i cant wait for ATH. people gonna get insta rekt on high margin in $50 swings
[2017-01-01 00:00:04] chords : please when all light in the indicator are lit what does it mean
[2017-01-01 00:00:32] $$ : means if there is a huge ass margin call and it doesnt get filled then those in profit are auto closed to cover the margin call
[2017-01-01 00:00:57] $$ : and the bars represent your order in the case of that occurring
[2017-01-01 00:01:43] cookielito : $$: ????
[2017-01-01 00:01:58] $$ : if i dont make sense just click the lights for more info
[2017-01-01 00:02:05] QuantFocus : he's talking about ADL
[2017-01-01 00:02:13] QuantFocus : cookielito:
[2017-01-01 00:02:45] cookielito : anti defamation league?
[2017-01-01 00:02:50] chords : ss: thanks, does itaffect my position negatively even if my ROE is positive
[2017-01-01 00:03:43] QuantFocus : only if you get closed out when you don't want to
[2017-01-01 00:04:30] chords : it says in the event of a liquidation my position will be reduced
[2017-01-01 00:04:48] QuantFocus : yea, someone else's liquidation
[2017-01-01 00:04:58] QuantFocus : they force you to buy/sell some of your position to cover
[2017-01-01 00:06:25] MikeHunt : are fees meant to balance out over time?
[2017-01-01 00:07:35] chords : QuantFocus:ok now i get,i dont loose am just forced to complete some order
[2017-01-01 00:07:56] QuantFocus : right. you do give up some potential upside though
[2017-01-01 00:08:08] QuantFocus : kinda forces you to take profit
[2017-01-01 00:08:23] chords : thanks for the support
[2017-01-01 00:08:28] QuantFocus : np
[2017-01-01 00:09:42] tb : chords: adl only kicks in when the insurance fund is empty
[2017-01-01 00:09:59] tb : currently it has 160+ btc in it