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[2016-12-31 07:17:34] narnarfromnarnia : we should be able to see what the mark price is somehow
[2016-12-31 07:28:12] MikeHunt : could still push it a little higher
[2016-12-31 07:29:03] narnarfromnarnia : it could just hold here until next cycle and go to 970 tho
[2016-12-31 07:29:25] shery : narnarfromnarnia: I feel it will pump hard from here
[2016-12-31 07:31:14] shery : narnarfromnarnia: It is holding its spot firmly , and next push could come , if it got passed 970 , then 1k is on cards today
[2016-12-31 07:31:41] narnarfromnarnia : futures are at 1k
[2016-12-31 07:31:48] narnarfromnarnia : neg interest
[2016-12-31 07:31:50] narnarfromnarnia : rate
[2016-12-31 07:32:09] narnarfromnarnia : no more new money in exchanges and long holiday weekend
[2016-12-31 07:32:24] narnarfromnarnia : so its going to rek until mega drop and mega rekts
[2016-12-31 07:32:31] narnarfromnarnia : upward then down
[2016-12-31 07:33:05] nOgAnOo : and pump.. and dump
[2016-12-31 07:34:14] KyllingLolsson : I think it looks weak
[2016-12-31 07:34:49] MikeHunt : as soon as they stopped pouring in huge orders, it stopped dead
[2016-12-31 07:38:36] narnarfromnarnia : well no rekts no trading for me
[2016-12-31 07:46:37] MoneySeeMoneyDo : no real push to 1000 until january 2 or 3
[2016-12-31 07:46:44] MoneySeeMoneyDo : not enough money or buyers out there right now
[2016-12-31 07:46:48] MoneySeeMoneyDo : people shat off to ibiza
[2016-12-31 07:46:50] MoneySeeMoneyDo : like me
[2016-12-31 07:46:57] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i'm off to the greek islands now, see ya~
[2016-12-31 07:49:27] brouk : enjoy
[2016-12-31 08:13:24] poundfoolish : Why is XBTUSD funding negative?
[2016-12-31 08:14:06] poundfoolish : Doesn't seem to match what I see on bitfinex.
[2016-12-31 08:17:55] KyllingLolsson : No volume up...
[2016-12-31 08:22:16] poundfoolish : How does volume effect the funding rate?
[2016-12-31 08:34:06] KyllingLolsson : Volume leads price right?
[2016-12-31 08:43:01] poundfoolish : Oh wait. I was misreading my statement.
[2016-12-31 08:44:04] poundfoolish : Interest rates are as expected.
[2016-12-31 08:44:42] poundfoolish : Time to go on holiday like everyone else ... thanks.
[2016-12-31 08:47:00] KyllingLolsson : Oh sry i didnt see what u wrote till now
[2016-12-31 08:47:11] BTCDJS : get in while its cheap
[2016-12-31 08:56:22] SilverKnight : who is ready for a move to the 970s??? :)
[2016-12-31 08:57:09] shery : SilverKnight: May be No one
[2016-12-31 08:58:17] SilverKnight : shery: yea... it does feel like no one wants to trade today... :P
[2016-12-31 08:58:30] SilverKnight : drifting aimlessly...
[2016-12-31 09:00:45] nOgAnOo : You are all very special in my heart.
[2016-12-31 09:00:45] SilverKnight : still... at this point im thinking bullish is the way to go. Anyone else have a perspective to share?
[2016-12-31 09:05:46] SilverKnight : drum roll..... :D
[2016-12-31 09:06:41] BTCDJS : Bull Bull Bull Bull Bull
[2016-12-31 09:07:05] shery : SilverKnight: At this point i could say that nothg is predictable now, It could free fall from heer or move towrads 1k, but tommorow i could predict that it will free fal at any point
[2016-12-31 09:07:08] Tr : its happening
[2016-12-31 09:07:15] Tr : crooked china going to buy everything
[2016-12-31 09:07:29] BTCDJS : you're wrong and you're right
[2016-12-31 09:07:50] Tr : 2000$
[2016-12-31 09:13:38] Tr : blast off
[2016-12-31 09:16:26] SilverKnight : hmm.... but can we maintain the volume...
[2016-12-31 09:16:29] SilverKnight : thats the question..
[2016-12-31 09:18:09] KyllingLolsson : Volume leads price... Always and with out exeption...
[2016-12-31 09:18:58] SilverKnight : aaaannnd boom... not feeling it any more :P
[2016-12-31 09:35:58] happy : Sorry guys, this is going to dump
[2016-12-31 09:36:30] SilverKnight : yea looks like it
[2016-12-31 09:36:41] Tr : i went all in long
[2016-12-31 09:37:12] happy : This will be 900 today~ base on 3D chart. Believe or not
[2016-12-31 09:37:33] Tr : what is 3d chart
[2016-12-31 09:38:49] happy : 3days
[2016-12-31 09:42:17] MoneySeeMoneyDo : happy: i'd bet you it won't.
[2016-12-31 09:42:25] MoneySeeMoneyDo : how do you come to that conlusion
[2016-12-31 09:43:47] happy : 3days chart, all has lower tail. 12-20 :Low is 787.68;12-23: Low is 830.63; 12-26 low is 861.20
[2016-12-31 09:44:13] happy : From this pattern: 12-29 would be around 900
[2016-12-31 09:51:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2 @ 950.96 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-31 09:52:25] KyllingLolsson : Went all in short
[2016-12-31 09:53:56] BTCDJS : Making higher lows and inverse head and shoulders I think we are going up. Although I am on mobile so I could be wrong
[2016-12-31 09:54:19] BTCDJS : also its late afternoon in china
[2016-12-31 09:55:33] KyllingLolsson : Also lower highs
[2016-12-31 09:55:45] KyllingLolsson : Pennant
[2016-12-31 09:56:13] shery : This will fall hard
[2016-12-31 09:58:46] BTCDJS : Plenty support 905-920
[2016-12-31 09:59:26] shery : BTCDJS: when panic starts none of the support works,
[2016-12-31 10:03:29] BTCDJS : You're assuming there will be panic
[2016-12-31 10:03:35] BTCDJS : there won't
[2016-12-31 10:06:18] happy : BTCDJS: There will be
[2016-12-31 10:06:35] BTCDJS : From you maybe yeah
[2016-12-31 10:08:44] shery : BTCDJS: There will be a huge panic , take written from me
[2016-12-31 10:10:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3795 @ 954.19
[2016-12-31 10:11:31] narnarfromnarnia : well im out of coins
[2016-12-31 10:11:32] Hoble : @Bitmex: bitfinex introduced one cancels the other orders, do you have something like this?
[2016-12-31 10:11:45] narnarfromnarnia : this is bs i think liq price data is shared with market makers here
[2016-12-31 10:11:57] narnarfromnarnia : totally possible
[2016-12-31 10:12:32] inconspic : narnarfromnarnia: lol
[2016-12-31 10:12:38] BTCDJS : Lower your leverage
[2016-12-31 10:12:43] SilverKnight : Hoble: https://www.bitmex.com/app/orderTypeFAQ#Close-On-Trigger-Orders
[2016-12-31 10:12:56] narnarfromnarnia : seriously though
[2016-12-31 10:13:02] Hoble : SilverKnight: cheers
[2016-12-31 10:13:05] narnarfromnarnia : its put the prices exactly at my liq price
[2016-12-31 10:13:17] narnarfromnarnia : and other exchanges not moving wtf
[2016-12-31 10:13:24] BTCDJS : if you wanna live dangerously don't do more than 25X
[2016-12-31 10:13:29] SilverKnight : Hoble: it might not be what you are looking for though
[2016-12-31 10:13:31] narnarfromnarnia : yeah
[2016-12-31 10:13:39] SilverKnight : Hoble: closest that I've seen
[2016-12-31 10:26:16] laisee : Alert from bitfinex re issues in displayed. Prices
[2016-12-31 10:46:00] SilverKnight : im curious, what is the most XBT you guys have traded in a single ticket?
[2016-12-31 10:46:31] SilverKnight : is there a lot of liquidity or is the order book rather indicative of whats available?
[2016-12-31 10:59:40] shery : Omg that walls pooping
[2016-12-31 11:01:39] lastminute : 666 users
[2016-12-31 11:02:06] lastminute : What do you think pump or dump ?
[2016-12-31 11:02:39] SilverKnight : im thinking pump
[2016-12-31 11:02:40] shery : lastminute: Dump looks like so
[2016-12-31 11:02:51] SilverKnight : haha
[2016-12-31 11:03:03] SilverKnight : well... im still thinking 970s are in the cards
[2016-12-31 11:03:13] SilverKnight : we shall see
[2016-12-31 11:03:13] lastminute : hmm
[2016-12-31 11:03:35] shery : SilverKnight: The more it is closer to new year the more chances of going up are lesser
[2016-12-31 11:04:02] SilverKnight : shery: could you explain why?
[2016-12-31 11:04:14] shery : SilverKnight: New year dump
[2016-12-31 11:04:28] shery : who will eat that wall
[2016-12-31 11:04:46] SilverKnight : shery: is this something that reoccurs every year?
[2016-12-31 11:05:05] shery : SilverKnight: Dump, crash every year
[2016-12-31 11:05:17] SilverKnight : shery: huh... interesting
[2016-12-31 11:05:28] SilverKnight : well.... there is a first time for everything...
[2016-12-31 11:05:30] lastminute : people use their btc to get drunk
[2016-12-31 11:06:34] SilverKnight : I wouldnt short until we see price actually confirming that idea...
[2016-12-31 11:06:51] SilverKnight : trading expectations before they materialize is dangerous
[2016-12-31 11:07:13] SilverKnight : then again, buying after a huge rally could be dangerous too... :P
[2016-12-31 11:07:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2800 @ 949.84
[2016-12-31 11:20:02] SilverKnight : and the beat goes on....
[2016-12-31 11:31:39] MoneySeeMoneyDo : is there a fee for trades?
[2016-12-31 11:32:22] happy : 0.075%
[2016-12-31 11:33:22] happy : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-12-31 11:33:46] happy : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-12-31 11:46:13] rapidtrades : going to hit 1k today
[2016-12-31 11:48:49] lastminute : or not
[2016-12-31 11:49:10] brouk : or 900
[2016-12-31 11:49:50] lastminute : I see a dump coming
[2016-12-31 11:50:08] SilverKnight : I think 1K is a bit extreme(anything is possible) but I do think 970s are very possible
[2016-12-31 11:50:41] SilverKnight : thats where my targets for today are...
[2016-12-31 11:54:23] Tr : its 970 in china
[2016-12-31 11:55:48] rapidtrades : BAN
[2016-12-31 12:00:50] rapidtrades : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-31/china-said-to-increase-scrutiny-of-foreign-currency-purchases-ixd3oijp
[2016-12-31 12:02:23] Tr : bitcoin banned
[2016-12-31 12:02:25] Tr : NICE
[2016-12-31 12:02:44] rapidtrades : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-30/china-tightens-anti-money-laundering-regulations-for-banks
[2016-12-31 12:03:42] Tr : 50k yuan is like 7k usd
[2016-12-31 12:03:50] Tr : cant market buy these bitcoins anymore
[2016-12-31 12:03:54] Tr : what now, China?
[2016-12-31 12:12:32] MoneySeeMoneyDo : how can this restrict bitcoin?
[2016-12-31 12:12:37] MoneySeeMoneyDo : you are going to have to explain that
[2016-12-31 12:13:31] Tr : ?
[2016-12-31 12:13:45] Tr : do you think that buying BTC doesnt fall into the category of "selling yuan"
[2016-12-31 12:14:37] Tr : yuan leaking and Gov makes limits now
[2016-12-31 12:14:38] Tr : good game
[2016-12-31 12:14:40] MoneySeeMoneyDo : how?
[2016-12-31 12:15:45] rapidtrades : how what
[2016-12-31 12:16:27] Tr : they dont magically transfer money into the exchanges
[2016-12-31 12:16:39] Tr : now they will have limits and have to explain where and why they wire it
[2016-12-31 12:16:42] MoneySeeMoneyDo : they also don't pull a lot of money out
[2016-12-31 12:16:46] Tr : unless ofc all the buyers are fake
[2016-12-31 12:16:52] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i think people misunderstand what the volume players in china are doing with their bitcoin
[2016-12-31 12:17:18] MoneySeeMoneyDo : but china banks already do kyc with exchanges
[2016-12-31 12:17:26] MoneySeeMoneyDo : having money and aml controls with exchanges isn't even new
[2016-12-31 12:17:31] MoneySeeMoneyDo : it's the rate and amount of money that is new
[2016-12-31 12:17:40] MoneySeeMoneyDo : nothing has changed in terms of procedure other than money signals
[2016-12-31 12:17:44] Tr : so you think cutting the money supply
[2016-12-31 12:17:47] Tr : wont hav eany effects
[2016-12-31 12:17:49] Tr : :D
[2016-12-31 12:17:58] MoneySeeMoneyDo : you are saying that bitcoin is being banned because of this, effectively
[2016-12-31 12:18:05] MoneySeeMoneyDo : of course money supply changes may change something
[2016-12-31 12:18:11] Tr : its an irocny but
[2016-12-31 12:18:12] MoneySeeMoneyDo : it's not the same as saying this effectively bans bitcoin
[2016-12-31 12:18:12] Tr : point stands
[2016-12-31 12:18:16] Tr : less money less buying
[2016-12-31 12:18:17] MoneySeeMoneyDo : your statements are overreaction
[2016-12-31 12:18:50] Tr : every china related news where always followed by a huge dump
[2016-12-31 12:20:11] 16longbtc : Just like my lovvvve ever last ING
[2016-12-31 12:20:12] MoneySeeMoneyDo : also you should understand, when a chinese buyer converts to usd
[2016-12-31 12:20:16] MoneySeeMoneyDo : it's not like they are sending money OUT of china
[2016-12-31 12:20:25] MoneySeeMoneyDo : they literally are sending it into offshore yuan and use markets
[2016-12-31 12:20:30] MoneySeeMoneyDo : which are still controlled by china
[2016-12-31 12:20:57] rapidtrades : yes they are
[2016-12-31 12:21:03] rapidtrades : that's exactly what's going on
[2016-12-31 12:21:06] MoneySeeMoneyDo : the difference between onshore yuan and use accounts as far as i know is the rate
[2016-12-31 12:21:16] rapidtrades : buy BTC in China, sell BTC on usd exchanges
[2016-12-31 12:21:41] rapidtrades : technically it may be a loophole but in practice there's no doubt it's capital flight
[2016-12-31 12:22:05] rapidtrades : they will have to specifically target bitcoin exchanges to end it though
[2016-12-31 12:22:53] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i don't think they will od that
[2016-12-31 12:23:41] rapidtrades : https://imgur.com/a/3qoUC
[2016-12-31 12:23:49] rapidtrades : a little trip down memory lane
[2016-12-31 12:26:24] rapidtrades : the two options are: 1 china places those restrictions and price crashes 2 china doesn't place those restrictions and price slowly falls as ppl calm down and stop panic buying in fear of restrictions
[2016-12-31 12:28:46] Tr : policies doesnt even have to work
[2016-12-31 12:28:52] Tr : market will eat up any news
[2016-12-31 12:29:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 100 @ 0.003254
[2016-12-31 12:30:17] rapidtrades : first we hit 1k though :)
[2016-12-31 12:30:25] Tr : china already did
[2016-12-31 12:30:40] rapidtrades : China doesn't count
[2016-12-31 12:30:45] Tr : ye sure
[2016-12-31 12:30:47] rapidtrades : 1000 DOLLARS
[2016-12-31 12:30:58] Tr : it was 1000 dollars in china
[2016-12-31 12:31:00] rapidtrades : it's the big one
[2016-12-31 12:31:04] rapidtrades : the tripple zero
[2016-12-31 12:31:18] rapidtrades : Tr: NO IT WASN'T COS CHINA DOESN'T TRADE DULARDS
[2016-12-31 12:31:21] Tr : just because it wasnt 1000 on all exchanges it doesnt count lol
[2016-12-31 12:31:27] rapidtrades : ur dense
[2016-12-31 12:31:59] Tr : what about btc-ee
[2016-12-31 12:32:05] Tr : do we wait to them to hit 1000 before dumping too
[2016-12-31 12:32:11] rapidtrades : no
[2016-12-31 12:32:37] emirate : why the all market is bad
[2016-12-31 12:33:18] rapidtrades : wait a minute
[2016-12-31 12:33:26] rapidtrades : why is ETC > ETH right now
[2016-12-31 12:33:46] Tr : just a polo pump
[2016-12-31 12:33:47] rapidtrades : oh my bad...f*cking decimals
[2016-12-31 12:34:11] Tr : lol
[2016-12-31 12:34:15] rapidtrades : if I had it my wayt I would invert all BTC pairs
[2016-12-31 12:34:30] rapidtrades : so it would be BTC\ETC
[2016-12-31 12:35:10] rapidtrades : 119.617 is much easier on the brain then 0.00836
[2016-12-31 12:37:05] Tr : https://blockchain.info/tx/3d9ffe4f847738863f14d7811484cce02b192c41702f2d27c974ec90d6902c9a
[2016-12-31 12:37:08] Tr : wtf is that lol
[2016-12-31 12:37:14] Tr : satoshi preparing his bags?
[2016-12-31 13:04:01] negamax : bitmex withdrawals are not being done today?
[2016-12-31 13:06:58] mariomarco : any admins here?
[2016-12-31 13:09:07] shery : I am waiting for withdraw too
[2016-12-31 13:09:48] mariomarco : motherfucking scam btc
[2016-12-31 13:11:53] happy : why withdraw?
[2016-12-31 13:12:54] BitMEX_Wally : Withdrawing are being processed at the moment
[2016-12-31 13:12:58] BitMEX_Wally : *withdraws
[2016-12-31 13:18:37] shery : BitMEX_Wally: tnx for clarification
[2016-12-31 13:54:52] happy : wow
[2016-12-31 13:57:28] rapidtrades : happy: sup?
[2016-12-31 13:57:54] sleger : probably nothing
[2016-12-31 13:57:57] sleger : he's just happy
[2016-12-31 13:59:04] rapidtrades : I would be happy too if I was called happy
[2016-12-31 13:59:27] shery : rapidtrades: yu cant be happy becaouse happy is only happy
[2016-12-31 14:00:06] sleger : ^ dumb and not funny
[2016-12-31 14:38:15] oladpeter : How can I set margin by default?
[2016-12-31 14:40:45] sleger : oladpeter: system remembers previous choices
[2016-12-31 14:46:22] Headroom : omg so many people, what are you waiting the last day of the year (and week-end) ? xD
[2016-12-31 14:46:48] Headroom : ho god let me leave it fast xD good luck gamblers
[2016-12-31 14:54:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: buy 50 @ 0.014601
[2016-12-31 15:08:23] happy : to the moon???
[2016-12-31 15:11:29] MoneySeeMoneyDo : happy: not yet
[2016-12-31 15:11:36] MoneySeeMoneyDo : but 970 not out of the question
[2016-12-31 15:11:54] happy : this is on the edge
[2016-12-31 15:11:56] SilverKnight : MoneySeeMoneyDo: yep my thoughts exactly
[2016-12-31 15:12:21] MoneySeeMoneyDo : SilverKnight: i have had three good trades in the row, playing with the space between the blollinger bands
[2016-12-31 15:12:38] SilverKnight : which time frame?
[2016-12-31 15:12:54] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i go in and out of 5 minutes and 30 minutes
[2016-12-31 15:13:00] MoneySeeMoneyDo : now on the three minutes
[2016-12-31 15:14:08] MoneySeeMoneyDo : right now I am looking at buying in at about 954
[2016-12-31 15:14:13] MoneySeeMoneyDo : and selling anything close to 960 or over
[2016-12-31 15:14:23] MoneySeeMoneyDo : good range over the past two hours if you look back
[2016-12-31 15:15:54] happy : MoneySeeMoneyDo: Sideway is going to end.
[2016-12-31 15:17:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4500 @ 955.22
[2016-12-31 15:19:46] MoneySeeMoneyDo : time to pay attention folks
[2016-12-31 15:26:53] cookielito : interesting
[2016-12-31 15:27:02] cookielito : dont you all think?
[2016-12-31 15:27:26] cookielito : im going to make 2000% in the next week or so
[2016-12-31 15:27:37] cookielito : this time im withdrawing
[2016-12-31 15:27:37] happy : cookielito: Are you long? or short
[2016-12-31 15:27:49] cookielito : at the very moment short
[2016-12-31 15:27:56] cookielito : but extremely short term
[2016-12-31 15:28:04] cookielito : like next 15 minutes
[2016-12-31 15:28:10] cookielito : not even
[2016-12-31 15:28:35] happy : Target to 950?
[2016-12-31 15:28:41] happy : or even lower
[2016-12-31 15:28:50] cookielito : not even
[2016-12-31 15:29:00] cookielito : im fairly conservative in that respect
[2016-12-31 15:29:06] cookielito : like to get in and out quick
[2016-12-31 15:29:43] happy : lol don't you need to pay fees, if you trade super short term
[2016-12-31 15:30:00] cookielito : how so?
[2016-12-31 15:30:09] cookielito : for being a taker?
[2016-12-31 15:30:30] happy : Oh, ok
[2016-12-31 15:30:44] cookielito : I typically try not to take
[2016-12-31 15:30:46] happy : So, you are a maker?
[2016-12-31 15:30:56] cookielito : the majority of the time
[2016-12-31 15:31:09] happy : cool
[2016-12-31 15:31:30] cookielito : Ive been wanting to make a bot for makking here
[2016-12-31 15:31:34] cookielito : https://www.google.com/patents/US6775378
[2016-12-31 15:31:41] cookielito : father invented this
[2016-12-31 15:31:48] BitMEX_Sam : cookielito: See https://github.com/BitMEX/sample-market-maker to get started
[2016-12-31 15:31:58] cookielito : the call center....
[2016-12-31 15:32:12] cookielito : got it sam
[2016-12-31 15:32:33] cookielito : from my experience alot of exchanges have very poor APIs
[2016-12-31 15:32:55] cookielito : I was the the most demanding developer for cryptsy, bittrex
[2016-12-31 15:33:02] cookielito : as far as calls
[2016-12-31 15:33:46] cookielito : me and the old man want to get back into it
[2016-12-31 15:33:55] cookielito : because now is time
[2016-12-31 15:35:34] cookielito : bitmex_sam: you guys arnt looking for bad ass programmers that created billion dollar products are you?
[2016-12-31 15:35:49] cookielito : C, C++ guys
[2016-12-31 15:40:08] yoloshi : sam, i was thinking...
[2016-12-31 15:40:48] BitMEX_Sam : cookielito: I think you'll be quite pleased with our API.
[2016-12-31 15:40:57] BitMEX_Sam : We're not looking for C/C++ guys, unfortunately.
[2016-12-31 15:41:38] cookielito : you guys will definitely see our activity
[2016-12-31 15:41:41] cookielito : :)
[2016-12-31 15:42:52] happy : price dropping on huobi
[2016-12-31 15:43:28] yoloshi : the reference market maker could be modified to be less "abusive?" by revising more distant orders less frequently
[2016-12-31 15:47:01] BitMEX_Sam : yoloshi: It certainly could be, you can set a higher `RELIST_INTERVAL`
[2016-12-31 15:53:59] MikeHunt : happy: seems only the whales are keeping this alive
[2016-12-31 15:55:41] happy : MikeHunt: tired of watching
[2016-12-31 15:57:10] Naloxone : MikeHunt: I think, at most part, these are not whales, but wash trade bots used by the chinese duo
[2016-12-31 15:58:49] MikeHunt : Naloxone: anywhere i can learn about that?
[2016-12-31 15:59:40] BitMEX_Jack : Happy New Year 2017!!!
[2016-12-31 16:00:02] cookielito : Naloxone: Im confused can you tell me a little more about that?
[2016-12-31 16:00:04] MikeHunt : Naloxone: nvm, found it here for anyone else that wants it : http://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/washtrading.asp
[2016-12-31 16:00:07] Angelika : BitMEX_Jack: Happy New Year!!!
[2016-12-31 16:00:29] MikeHunt : is it new year in BitMex land?
[2016-12-31 16:01:11] BitMEX_Sam : It is
[2016-12-31 16:01:21] shery : Happy new year Guys although its 3 year away in my country
[2016-12-31 16:03:05] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: :sparkles:
[2016-12-31 16:04:26] cookielito : happy new year!
[2016-12-31 16:04:29] Naloxone : MikeHunt: This is my opinion. Those mega market buy orders (500-1000 BTC) to prevent nearly every dump, for some reason, happen only on the Chinese exchanges
[2016-12-31 16:05:19] Tr : yep, its all a scam
[2016-12-31 16:05:35] Tr : miners need to cashout high
[2016-12-31 16:05:36] MikeHunt : Naloxone: the chinese exchanges are the leaders so i would expect them to lead the pack
[2016-12-31 16:05:50] Tr : how can you constantly cashout at high prices?
[2016-12-31 16:06:01] Tr : fake buy orders with fake yuan that noone can prove you are doing
[2016-12-31 16:06:05] Tr : and keep the price inflated
[2016-12-31 16:06:54] Tr : what exactly the flaw in this plan
[2016-12-31 16:07:03] Tr : noone will invistiage huobi ever
[2016-12-31 16:07:14] Tr : just make a bots trading with each other with 0 fees
[2016-12-31 16:07:36] startChat : its like fake news. an order is an order. it just means less when there are no fees
[2016-12-31 16:07:51] Tr : how do u know order is true
[2016-12-31 16:08:07] Tr : they are pretty much proven to fake their volume
[2016-12-31 16:08:14] Tr : but you think they cant go further?
[2016-12-31 16:10:27] Tr : how can u explain
[2016-12-31 16:10:34] Tr : the volume difference between west and east
[2016-12-31 16:10:43] Tr : u think millions of chinese are into bitcoin trading?
[2016-12-31 16:10:45] Tr : bullshit
[2016-12-31 16:11:11] Tr : if you want to see real volume from real people look stamp, btc-e
[2016-12-31 16:11:14] MikeHunt : Tr: due to capital flight everyone there is buying it up
[2016-12-31 16:11:25] Tr : this is a bullshit myth
[2016-12-31 16:11:27] cookielito : its true
[2016-12-31 16:11:37] cookielito : chinks want out
[2016-12-31 16:12:01] MikeHunt : Tr: i agree that it's definately manipulated but chinese do buy bitcoin and sell in west to escape capital controls
[2016-12-31 16:12:05] Tr : do you realize they have like 30x more volume
[2016-12-31 16:12:09] MikeHunt : Tr: its even more obvious in the capital market
[2016-12-31 16:12:30] Tr : i am not buying that 30x more volume comes from legit chinese buyers
[2016-12-31 16:12:31] MikeHunt : housing*
[2016-12-31 16:12:32] Tr : its all bullshit
[2016-12-31 16:13:00] cookielito : probably about 10 times more
[2016-12-31 16:13:01] MikeHunt : Tr: you mean buying and selling using bitcoin? yeah i agree
[2016-12-31 16:13:07] cookielito : the other 20 is bots
[2016-12-31 16:13:17] cookielito : run by either americans or chinese
[2016-12-31 16:13:22] cookielito : on the chinese exchanges
[2016-12-31 16:13:35] Tr : did anyone ever questioned these exchanges
[2016-12-31 16:13:46] Tr : to show the proof that they actually hold all these coins they trade
[2016-12-31 16:13:50] Tr : and its not just numbers
[2016-12-31 16:14:31] cookielito : one coin can go back and forth
[2016-12-31 16:14:36] cookielito : many many times
[2016-12-31 16:15:20] Tr : yes but i am sure that can be counter in the calculation
[2016-12-31 16:15:44] Tr : i bet their real wallet is thin as hell
[2016-12-31 16:21:13] MikeHunt : so i guess the question is how long they can maintain the manipulation
[2016-12-31 16:21:20] MikeHunt : if it costs them nothing to do it
[2016-12-31 16:24:25] j8 : manipulating volume is easy, but no one can really manipulate the price significantly over long periods
[2016-12-31 16:24:30] rullwull : you can see real crowd panic buys volumes in china if you look at btcchina volumes of 2013 pump, it was around 80-100K btc per day
[2016-12-31 16:25:47] rullwull : there is no crowd interest in bitcoin anymore in china, so the current volumes are fake
[2016-12-31 16:26:43] rullwull : i know it because i was living in china for 4 years and was there during 2013 pump
[2016-12-31 16:30:42] MikeHunt : rullwull: so other than the odd capital flight, not much interest?
[2016-12-31 16:32:07] rullwull : there are many other ways to send money out of china for 0,5-1% @MikeHunt
[2016-12-31 16:33:56] MikeHunt : rullwull: yeh some have been buying houses and other stuff abroad
[2016-12-31 16:34:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10 @ 957.07
[2016-12-31 16:34:34] rullwull : i would say that the current price movement is fully manipulated however it was predicted by TA, but still not enough fundamentals. Wait for collapse of western economy or banking system, than bitcoin will fly
[2016-12-31 16:35:09] MikeHunt : rullwull: what about the banks that back the exchanges though?
[2016-12-31 16:35:55] MikeHunt : my fear is that if the banks fail they could take bitcoin with it or severely limit its value
[2016-12-31 16:36:13] MikeHunt : rullwull: at least temporarily until people start using it to trade with directly
[2016-12-31 16:36:53] rullwull : you can send yuan locally and receive usd on western account for 0,5-1%, maybe this year it became more expensive, not sure but its very simple, rather than buy bitcoins or houses@MikeHunt
[2016-12-31 16:37:29] MikeHunt : rullwull: all i know is the chinese gov are clamping down
[2016-12-31 16:37:32] j8 : fundamentals are pretty meaningless if you're not talking about several months timeframe or longer
[2016-12-31 16:40:38] j8 : rullwull: they're only allowed to exchange 50k USD per year per citizen though, right
[2016-12-31 16:41:52] rullwull : yes, you are talking about legal option, but there are many other ways, chinese are very adaptive
[2016-12-31 16:44:36] rullwull : wish all the best to all of you and Bitmex in a New Year, need to go, see you later or already next year:)
[2016-12-31 16:45:05] BitMEX_Sam : :wave:
[2016-12-31 17:04:42] cookielito : I will be shocked if we dont see 1000 by midnight NYC time
[2016-12-31 17:08:33] mariomarco : cookielito: how much nyc time is now
[2016-12-31 17:08:48] cookielito : its mid day
[2016-12-31 17:08:52] cookielito : so in 12 hours
[2016-12-31 17:09:03] mariomarco : aha
[2016-12-31 17:09:05] mariomarco : thank you
[2016-12-31 17:16:49] MikeHunt : cookielito: china saw 1000 already
[2016-12-31 17:17:06] cookielito : I know
[2016-12-31 17:17:16] MikeHunt : we make up 7% of the market
[2016-12-31 17:20:01] cookielito : we as in?
[2016-12-31 17:23:19] $$ : cookielito: are you market making on xbth17?
[2016-12-31 17:23:34] cookielito : not yet
[2016-12-31 17:23:36] cookielito : why?
[2016-12-31 17:24:12] cookielito : there seems to be some market making activity?
[2016-12-31 17:24:19] $$ : yeah 25k contract guy
[2016-12-31 17:24:26] cookielito : not me
[2016-12-31 17:24:31] $$ : they went 20k to 15k to 25k
[2016-12-31 17:25:01] cookielito : Im still confused as to the fuding rate on XBTH17
[2016-12-31 17:25:08] cookielito : funding
[2016-12-31 17:25:14] cookielito : is there any 8 hour funding?
[2016-12-31 17:25:16] $$ : no
[2016-12-31 17:25:19] $$ : that's only the swap
[2016-12-31 17:25:20] cookielito : ok perfect
[2016-12-31 17:25:30] $$ : you just have to worry about settlement which is on march 31
[2016-12-31 17:25:38] cookielito : yeah
[2016-12-31 17:33:59] rapidtrades : guys if we culd hit 1,000 right on new year, that would be greaaat
[2016-12-31 17:34:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2 @ 959.07 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-31 17:34:43] $$ : bitfinex jumping a bit
[2016-12-31 17:35:00] $$ : china breaking up
[2016-12-31 17:35:12] Vijuu : Happy new year
[2016-12-31 17:35:58] rapidtrades : Vijuu: f*ck off
[2016-12-31 17:36:03] rapidtrades : not there yet
[2016-12-31 17:38:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2300 @ 962.55
[2016-12-31 17:38:31] sleger : @jung1: it was great to have you around in 2016
[2016-12-31 17:40:01] javierstone : this pump feels fake
[2016-12-31 17:40:06] javierstone : last trap before holiday
[2016-12-31 17:40:12] mariomarco : is it tho
[2016-12-31 17:40:27] MikeHunt : it always crashes around new year
[2016-12-31 17:40:43] mariomarco : stamp UPPP
[2016-12-31 17:40:47] MikeHunt : we may see 7k again as a dead cat bounce
[2016-12-31 17:41:04] $$ : the new year bitcoin will provide fireworks
[2016-12-31 17:41:13] SilverKnight : looking good... :) 970s here we come... :)
[2016-12-31 17:41:19] $$ : people were waiting till 1/1/2017 to market buy all in
[2016-12-31 17:41:49] mariomarco : drunk buy OP
[2016-12-31 17:44:57] javierstone : re-fueling my short
[2016-12-31 17:45:38] rapidtrades : let's flyyyyyyyy to the skyyyyyyyy
[2016-12-31 17:45:44] rapidtrades : toooooooooooooonight
[2016-12-31 17:48:04] mariomarco : rapidtrades: +++
[2016-12-31 17:50:01] MikeHunt : 1k touch and drop again?
[2016-12-31 17:50:18] MikeHunt : javierstone: your shorting this?
[2016-12-31 17:52:30] javierstone : short swap, long futures
[2016-12-31 17:52:57] javierstone : there's no volume for the pump to be real
[2016-12-31 17:53:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 20 @ 0.008210
[2016-12-31 17:54:08] nOgAnOo : ya this is the top I think
[2016-12-31 17:54:09] javierstone : come on someone give my 965 entry
[2016-12-31 17:54:11] nOgAnOo : safe short here
[2016-12-31 17:54:28] MikeHunt : just looked at previous crashes, this looks like final phase b4 drop
[2016-12-31 17:58:05] startChat : nOgAnOo: short it all
[2016-12-31 18:00:19] nOgAnOo : Higher than an LSD test monkey on a spaceship.
[2016-12-31 18:00:19] BTCDJS : Happy 1050 everybody!
[2016-12-31 18:00:38] nOgAnOo : What do you mean?
[2016-12-31 18:01:54] BTCDJS : nOgAnOo: that's what we will hit on new year London time. (Wishful thinking)
[2016-12-31 18:02:14] nOgAnOo : The idea crossed my mind too.. 1000 today.. but I don't think they have the balls.
[2016-12-31 18:02:48] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: 980 again maybe but 1k is a stretch
[2016-12-31 18:03:43] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: meh. What do you know anyway ?
[2016-12-31 18:04:05] Tr : penta top here
[2016-12-31 18:04:40] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: i got 7000 yuan touch and drop correct
[2016-12-31 18:05:01] rapidtrades : MIKE NOONE CARES ABOUT CHINA
[2016-12-31 18:05:12] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: you got lucky
[2016-12-31 18:05:25] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: i know people here think they are special but china represents 90%+ of the market
[2016-12-31 18:05:26] rapidtrades : don't ruin our New Year jollies
[2016-12-31 18:05:30] MikeHunt : alright alright
[2016-12-31 18:05:38] MikeHunt : ill keep quiet til 00:01 hours
[2016-12-31 18:05:43] MikeHunt : uk time
[2016-12-31 18:06:10] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: even then. Don't say a word
[2016-12-31 18:06:21] BTCDJS : we don't care
[2016-12-31 18:06:31] BTCDJS : about I told you so
[2016-12-31 18:06:35] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: lol, ill be back *bearing* down you
[2016-12-31 18:06:57] BTCDJS : Shh
[2016-12-31 18:07:25] BTCDJS : Don't spoil this for me
[2016-12-31 18:07:59] BTCDJS : 1050! COME ON!!!!!
[2016-12-31 18:10:19] javierstone : where is your hope now
[2016-12-31 18:12:22] javierstone : lets breach 30
[2016-12-31 18:16:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 500 @ 1009.67
[2016-12-31 18:18:42] javierstone : moar moar moar
[2016-12-31 18:20:01] Naloxone : Huobi didn't pump the last dip with 500 BTC market order. We are dumping!
[2016-12-31 18:20:23] javierstone : Naloxone: shhhh don't ruin the surprise
[2016-12-31 18:21:41] javierstone : breached
[2016-12-31 18:21:42] m3s : here we go boiz
[2016-12-31 18:21:56] $$ : fail pump
[2016-12-31 18:22:17] $$ : turns into new years dump
[2016-12-31 18:22:37] javierstone : down down down
[2016-12-31 18:22:50] Tr : china dupes and scams everyone
[2016-12-31 18:23:05] $$ : china bull flags and noobs dump
[2016-12-31 18:23:30] m3s : how do i make a limit order that was executed into a limit stop ?
[2016-12-31 18:23:32] Tr : "Hey silly westerner, buy my ChinaCoins on New year only 960 dollah, ching chong"
[2016-12-31 18:24:18] javierstone : Tr: uhh racist
[2016-12-31 18:28:33] MikeHunt : $$: happens evry year
[2016-12-31 18:28:47] m3s : how do I set a stop loss here?
[2016-12-31 18:28:53] MikeHunt : m3s: stop market?
[2016-12-31 18:30:29] m3s : not sure how to buy it. says it will be executed after price reaches stop price ?
[2016-12-31 18:30:47] PARAFFIN : failpump? LOL
[2016-12-31 18:34:29] BitMEX_Wally : m3s: Are you long or short?
[2016-12-31 18:39:07] BitMEX_Wally : m3s: If you are currently long then you would submit a Stop Market order to Sell with a Stop Price below your entry price. If the market drops then it will trigger a sell order to close your long position
[2016-12-31 18:49:04] rapidtrades : m3s: do the exact same thing if ur short
[2016-12-31 18:49:42] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Wally: I have GA set up as my 2FA and I'm on my phone. I like to check the chart every now and again but I get logged out too quick. Is there a way to change the timing so I don't get logged out every time?
[2016-12-31 18:52:09] cookielito : so friggen slow
[2016-12-31 18:53:37] zach719 : can the market please do something
[2016-12-31 18:53:43] zach719 : its so slow
[2016-12-31 18:53:52] rapidtrades : market will hit 1k o new year's
[2016-12-31 18:54:14] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: +1
[2016-12-31 18:54:25] BTCDJS : happy new year buddy
[2016-12-31 18:54:59] $$ : BTCDJS: check the settings so you dont get logged out while on phone
[2016-12-31 18:55:13] $$ : Safe Session Duration
[2016-12-31 18:55:17] $$ : uncheck that
[2016-12-31 18:56:47] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: we're not there yet!
[2016-12-31 19:02:17] BTCDJS : $$: thanks
[2016-12-31 19:04:49] viptrader : Hello
[2016-12-31 19:05:08] viptrader : Is liq price is according to bistamp price?
[2016-12-31 19:05:24] javierstone : kaiko index
[2016-12-31 19:05:28] viptrader : Thanks and happy new year :)
[2016-12-31 19:05:37] viptrader : Kaiko?
[2016-12-31 19:05:42] javierstone : google it
[2016-12-31 19:06:11] viptrader : Any serious answer plz?
[2016-12-31 19:06:34] javierstone : http://bitmex.kaiko.com/
[2016-12-31 19:06:55] javierstone : can u atleast click link?
[2016-12-31 19:07:52] javierstone : down down we go
[2016-12-31 19:16:12] SilverKnight : Just closed my long...
[2016-12-31 19:16:30] SilverKnight : volume is dropping off at this price...
[2016-12-31 19:16:46] Tr : new year 1000$ euphoria vanishing away
[2016-12-31 19:17:28] javierstone : thank you for your monies
[2016-12-31 19:18:28] SilverKnight : javierstone: were you talking to me? I was long from 952...
[2016-12-31 19:18:37] SilverKnight : made a fair bit on that one...
[2016-12-31 19:22:09] MikeHunt : http://www.buttcoinfoundation.org/stagesofabubble.png
[2016-12-31 19:26:46] Turbo : MikeHunt: this wont be a bubble until well after 4000 USD
[2016-12-31 19:29:25] Turbo : well now thats interesting, u guys are net short right now
[2016-12-31 19:30:50] MikeHunt : Turbo: it always crashes around new year
[2016-12-31 19:31:02] MikeHunt : Turbo: some sort of curse
[2016-12-31 19:31:57] Turbo : well, I've been out of the market for a couple days now, just watching, we shall see
[2016-12-31 19:32:35] MikeHunt : Turbo: imo if it was going to go up major style it would have already
[2016-12-31 19:32:47] Tr : its not going down, huobi wont let it