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[2016-12-30 10:12:20] zcashequalslambo : hey when is ZEC closing?
[2016-12-30 10:12:27] zcashequalslambo : zec30
[2016-12-30 10:12:30] zcashequalslambo : which hour?
[2016-12-30 10:12:31] SilverKnight : until what gets done?
[2016-12-30 10:12:47] narnarfromnarnia : you guys see all those liquidation orders stuck at higher prices
[2016-12-30 10:12:54] narnarfromnarnia : the exchange has to wait for those ouch
[2016-12-30 10:12:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3320 @ 929.23
[2016-12-30 10:12:58] m3s : bids at 880 guys
[2016-12-30 10:13:04] MikeHunt : its broken the EMA so it could really go anywhere now
[2016-12-30 10:13:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 18301 @ 928.95
[2016-12-30 10:13:08] narnarfromnarnia : all support is broken
[2016-12-30 10:13:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 4218 @ 928.17
[2016-12-30 10:13:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 200 @ 928.17
[2016-12-30 10:13:18] narnarfromnarnia : scary place here
[2016-12-30 10:13:24] ayy_lmao : if 6600 breaks...
[2016-12-30 10:13:25] narnarfromnarnia : no mans land now
[2016-12-30 10:13:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 3800 @ 6835.4
[2016-12-30 10:13:34] nOgAnOo : Wow look at those sales!
[2016-12-30 10:13:43] MikeHunt : coindesk analyst said 6000, 6600 is far up still
[2016-12-30 10:13:47] narnarfromnarnia : 920 should bounce
[2016-12-30 10:13:47] micmix : cheap quarterlies, my bot already long
[2016-12-30 10:13:52] ayy_lmao : 1min candles will be crazy
[2016-12-30 10:13:57] narnarfromnarnia : true
[2016-12-30 10:14:10] divinci : 920 is a brilliant buy
[2016-12-30 10:14:13] nOgAnOo : I think a bounce is in order
[2016-12-30 10:14:19] nOgAnOo : I'm long at 927 now
[2016-12-30 10:14:23] divinci : remember this time yesterday there was talk of 1000 USD
[2016-12-30 10:14:28] narnarfromnarnia : nOgAnOo: not time
[2016-12-30 10:14:42] narnarfromnarnia : you see its working the rekts right now
[2016-12-30 10:14:48] narnarfromnarnia : it will drop 20 bucks
[2016-12-30 10:14:49] narnarfromnarnia : more
[2016-12-30 10:14:54] nOgAnOo : oh..
[2016-12-30 10:14:57] SilverKnight : so on a buy of 1 xbt I pay roughly 7$?
[2016-12-30 10:15:04] SilverKnight : in btc?
[2016-12-30 10:15:06] elmorte : micmix: China premium back up on quarterlies
[2016-12-30 10:15:23] narnarfromnarnia : SilverKnight: just trade with $10
[2016-12-30 10:15:24] tb : SilverKnight: right
[2016-12-30 10:15:28] narnarfromnarnia : get a feel for everything
[2016-12-30 10:15:32] narnarfromnarnia : best option
[2016-12-30 10:15:37] SilverKnight : ok
[2016-12-30 10:15:37] tb : SilverKnight: but if you quote it you get 2.25
[2016-12-30 10:15:39] SilverKnight : col
[2016-12-30 10:15:40] narnarfromnarnia : not your whole stash
[2016-12-30 10:16:09] SilverKnight : sry what do you mean quote it"?
[2016-12-30 10:16:14] micmix : SilverKnight: it's 70c for taker, not $7
[2016-12-30 10:16:28] micmix : 0.075%
[2016-12-30 10:16:30] SilverKnight : ooooh I missed 0 in my calculations
[2016-12-30 10:16:49] SilverKnight : oh wow.... thats really good
[2016-12-30 10:17:09] SilverKnight : is that round turn or just one side of the trade?
[2016-12-30 10:17:17] micmix : one side
[2016-12-30 10:17:22] SilverKnight : ok...
[2016-12-30 10:17:26] tb : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-12-30 10:17:45] tb : thats my bad
[2016-12-30 10:17:47] tb : i missed a 0
[2016-12-30 10:17:52] evilminer : BUY!
[2016-12-30 10:17:55] SilverKnight : cool so roughly 1.40 round turn, or is it 0.925 round turn?
[2016-12-30 10:18:10] SilverKnight : since i see there is a maker and taker fee
[2016-12-30 10:18:22] narnarfromnarnia : only bots buying
[2016-12-30 10:18:27] SilverKnight : maker and taker=seller and buyer?
[2016-12-30 10:18:31] SilverKnight : or is that not right?
[2016-12-30 10:18:46] tb : maker is when your quote is in the market
[2016-12-30 10:18:55] tb : and someone trades against it
[2016-12-30 10:18:59] SilverKnight : ah ok...
[2016-12-30 10:19:02] tb : taker is when you trade against someone's resting order
[2016-12-30 10:19:08] micmix : maker is when you post an order and it stays on the orderbook, you'll be taker most likely
[2016-12-30 10:19:21] SilverKnight : gotcha
[2016-12-30 10:19:29] SilverKnight : ok... so 1.40 round turn then
[2016-12-30 10:19:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 1800 @ 0.001629
[2016-12-30 10:19:33] SilverKnight : typicaly
[2016-12-30 10:19:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.001627
[2016-12-30 10:19:48] tb : if you check post only you get guaranteed to be maker
[2016-12-30 10:19:53] tb : if you would be taker the order gets cancelled
[2016-12-30 10:19:58] nOgAnOo : re-dump now?
[2016-12-30 10:19:59] SilverKnight : gotcha
[2016-12-30 10:20:11] SilverKnight : cool! Thanks everyone for your help! :)
[2016-12-30 10:20:30] micmix : 0.15% of 1 btc is $1.40 currently but will be less in an hour or two ;-)
[2016-12-30 10:20:56] SilverKnight : can I ask why it will be less?
[2016-12-30 10:21:05] tb : because he thinks market is going to crash
[2016-12-30 10:21:13] SilverKnight : ooooooh haha!
[2016-12-30 10:21:18] SilverKnight : I see... :P
[2016-12-30 10:21:28] tb : lol
[2016-12-30 10:21:35] MikeHunt : 6750 maybe
[2016-12-30 10:23:27] arbitrage001 : buy the dip
[2016-12-30 10:23:38] arbitrage001 : last chance to become rich
[2016-12-30 10:23:41] arbitrage001 : yooo
[2016-12-30 10:23:48] SilverKnight : I think its too early....
[2016-12-30 10:23:54] SilverKnight : IMHO
[2016-12-30 10:23:59] lockhedge : micmix: had to implement what i call a "passive inventory hedge" 22 hours ago for tax reasons, hope my bot didn't break anything ;)
[2016-12-30 10:24:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 1396 @ 0.001591
[2016-12-30 10:24:25] MikeHunt : rekts gotta take a piss so take a breather for a mo
[2016-12-30 10:24:32] tb : where's my 100k ask quote at 980 on h17?
[2016-12-30 10:24:41] arbitrage001 : selling my bot
[2016-12-30 10:24:47] tb : put it back and i hit
[2016-12-30 10:24:49] arbitrage001 : best bot on bitmex
[2016-12-30 10:24:55] arbitrage001 : only asking 10 btc
[2016-12-30 10:25:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 259 @ 980.64
[2016-12-30 10:25:05] arbitrage001 : ROI 100%
[2016-12-30 10:25:08] narnarfromnarnia : arbitrage001: have a git repo?
[2016-12-30 10:25:15] narnarfromnarnia : or private repo?
[2016-12-30 10:25:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 477 @ 0.001564
[2016-12-30 10:25:25] arbitrage001 : narnarfromnarnia: privta bot
[2016-12-30 10:25:29] narnarfromnarnia : ok
[2016-12-30 10:25:32] arbitrage001 : afk a bit, dinner
[2016-12-30 10:25:44] aethlios : 100k whale is playing the h17
[2016-12-30 10:25:45] narnarfromnarnia : you have a sales page link?
[2016-12-30 10:26:05] arbitrage001 : narnarfromnarnia: this is free:
[2016-12-30 10:26:08] arbitrage001 : https://github.com/BitMEX/sample-market-maker
[2016-12-30 10:26:11] micmix : lockhedge: you mean hedge trading capital?
[2016-12-30 10:26:14] bingbongfly : they dump ETC just before settlement...
[2016-12-30 10:26:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 100 @ 0.001550
[2016-12-30 10:27:24] narnarfromnarnia : arbitrage001: seems there's specific recipe for some configurations?
[2016-12-30 10:27:59] narnarfromnarnia : which indicators are built in to yours?
[2016-12-30 10:29:11] narnarfromnarnia : someone got excited on finex
[2016-12-30 10:29:18] SilverKnight : Id look for BTC sells from here.....
[2016-12-30 10:29:20] narnarfromnarnia : probably closing a short
[2016-12-30 10:29:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 23500 @ 983.50
[2016-12-30 10:30:16] Headroom : and everyday they are doing the same error
[2016-12-30 10:30:32] Headroom : human mind is really complicate hu
[2016-12-30 10:30:59] Headroom : how many times will you need to see this happen before to understand ?
[2016-12-30 10:31:15] lockhedge : micmix: yes, i have been in a core long position the whole year and have to pay a few €1000 tax for 2016 that are still in bitcoin
[2016-12-30 10:36:36] Freewizard : enter longs now
[2016-12-30 10:36:52] Headroom : wait, to had to pay tax for a non realised profit ? what is your country ? it's insane
[2016-12-30 10:36:57] Headroom : -to+you
[2016-12-30 10:37:36] Headroom : most of the time you pay tax when you do btc > € after profit made
[2016-12-30 10:37:50] Headroom : (if you declare it... :>)
[2016-12-30 10:38:10] MikeHunt : Headroom: maybe he used untaxed income for btc trading
[2016-12-30 10:38:22] Headroom : i changes nothing
[2016-12-30 10:38:25] Headroom : it*
[2016-12-30 10:38:30] Freewizard : buy your cheap futures~
[2016-12-30 10:39:18] qwerti : low lev futures till march :)
[2016-12-30 10:39:27] Freewizard : you see,
[2016-12-30 10:39:42] Freewizard : the xbth17 is the price at march 31 haha
[2016-12-30 10:39:45] Freewizard : so cheap
[2016-12-30 10:39:55] lockhedge : Headroom: even if realised i don't have to pay taxes on bitcoin gains if i hold it for at least one year (that's much better than e.g. in the US), only have to pay taxes on derivatives trading gains
[2016-12-30 10:40:50] Headroom : seems clear now, it is so different sometimes
[2016-12-30 10:46:43] narnarfromnarnia : this is trap
[2016-12-30 10:46:49] narnarfromnarnia : about to short it
[2016-12-30 10:48:29] qwerti : triple 0 on nye us time
[2016-12-30 10:48:31] qwerti : try me
[2016-12-30 10:52:43] MikeHunt : im out
[2016-12-30 10:52:47] MikeHunt : rekt coming back imo
[2016-12-30 10:53:04] MikeHunt : rising wedge on 1m, they usually tip out at 75%
[2016-12-30 10:58:41] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: just waiting for people to fomo and rekt them
[2016-12-30 10:58:45] Freewizard : long scalpers should come out by now
[2016-12-30 10:59:47] Freewizard : OKcoin trend downwards seriously
[2016-12-30 11:00:34] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: fomo?
[2016-12-30 11:00:52] memes : fear of missing out
[2016-12-30 11:00:56] happy : any idea about ETC?
[2016-12-30 11:02:05] MikeHunt : memes: you mean dip buyers?
[2016-12-30 11:03:03] MrRGnome : fomo is any trend based emotional trade where the fear of missing the chance to profit drives the decision.
[2016-12-30 11:03:19] MrRGnome : price is at an all time high? better fomo buy
[2016-12-30 11:03:26] laisee : when market surges FOMO buyers grab any coins available via market buys
[2016-12-30 11:03:27] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: ahh
[2016-12-30 11:03:27] MrRGnome : Shit a crash? new low? better fomo sell
[2016-12-30 11:03:35] Freewizard : people we going back down
[2016-12-30 11:04:03] multicall : better sell
[2016-12-30 11:04:05] narnarfromnarnia : i have a feeling this is going to crush rekts all the way down to somewhere really low
[2016-12-30 11:04:27] Freewizard : sorry for ruining the enthusiasm, but there is really no reason in this rally
[2016-12-30 11:04:28] SilverKnight : hey anyone know what the best real time charts for XBTUSD are? is tradingview.com any good?
[2016-12-30 11:04:48] MikeHunt : bitmex one is tradingview
[2016-12-30 11:04:50] narnarfromnarnia : SilverKnight: https://www.tradingview.com/x/z7tDFUIM/
[2016-12-30 11:05:36] Naloxone : SilverKnight: https://cryptowat.ch
[2016-12-30 11:05:51] shery : whre is the guy who saidjust long and gave sarcism based comments from last week???
[2016-12-30 11:05:54] rms : end of year sell off for taxes ends january 2nd, i'm thinking
[2016-12-30 11:06:18] rms : or is that another bank holiday in the USA if january 1st is a sunday?
[2016-12-30 11:06:24] SilverKnight : tradingview.com's bitmex charts are delayed by a bit...
[2016-12-30 11:06:37] SilverKnight : it seems
[2016-12-30 11:06:39] SilverKnight : :(
[2016-12-30 11:07:09] SilverKnight : the price changes on the bitmex trading page and then the tradingview chart updates a bit later
[2016-12-30 11:07:11] tb : markets are closed the 2nd
[2016-12-30 11:07:16] tb : usa equity markets
[2016-12-30 11:07:43] MikeHunt : so everyone will be selling off before new years day?
[2016-12-30 11:07:48] MikeHunt : for tax reasons?
[2016-12-30 11:07:55] nOgAnOo : I made 3 dollars already!
[2016-12-30 11:07:58] nOgAnOo : Woohoo
[2016-12-30 11:08:09] nOgAnOo : Wait no 10 dollars
[2016-12-30 11:08:23] memes : awesome d
[2016-12-30 11:09:03] happy : 3 days chart tells me, this is going to 900
[2016-12-30 11:09:24] memes : idk when to hop back on this rocket
[2016-12-30 11:09:39] memes : ok I'll wait for 900 then :P
[2016-12-30 11:10:29] MikeHunt : coin desk guy said $860 flash then $900
[2016-12-30 11:10:35] happy : I think you can place a buy limit order. Don't just do anything with 100% of your pro folio
[2016-12-30 11:11:21] memes : yeah bit the thing is you dont want your limit order filled and liquidated all in the same second
[2016-12-30 11:11:38] memes : if it starts falling who knows how far it wil go
[2016-12-30 11:12:05] MikeHunt : use bitcoinwisdom and set alarms
[2016-12-30 11:12:11] MikeHunt : rather than get robot rekt
[2016-12-30 11:12:29] MrRGnome : ... or stop losses?
[2016-12-30 11:12:40] memes : I've got liquidated twice on xmr from flash crashes
[2016-12-30 11:12:42] SilverKnight : right now XBTUSD is 934.83 on bitmex quote screen but on tradingview charts its 933.98
[2016-12-30 11:12:53] SilverKnight : anyone else experienced this?
[2016-12-30 11:13:07] SilverKnight : now tradingview charts has caught up... :P
[2016-12-30 11:13:34] SilverKnight : its only mildly annoying I suppose
[2016-12-30 11:13:58] narnarfromnarnia : longs being filled going back down
[2016-12-30 11:14:36] micmix : lockhedge: yes, here in Canada derivatives trading profit is taxable income, doesn't matter if it's in bitcoin or other currency
[2016-12-30 11:14:52] MikeHunt : micmix: does NYE factor into that in canada?
[2016-12-30 11:16:28] micmix : not sure what you mean
[2016-12-30 11:18:49] MikeHunt : micmix: does new years eve/day effect taxes in regards to btc trading?
[2016-12-30 11:19:09] memes : check the charts
[2016-12-30 11:21:36] memes : not much really
[2016-12-30 11:21:49] memes : although it seems the biggest pumps are always around december
[2016-12-30 11:22:02] memes : mayb people put money into bitcoin for tax purposes
[2016-12-30 11:22:03] memes : xD
[2016-12-30 11:23:19] micmix : the easiest way is to declare all your bitcoin income using price on Dec. 31st but there is some flexibility. you can do it monthly or weekly using prices at the end of month/week. good accountant will optimize that @MikeHunt
[2016-12-30 11:24:22] Freewizard : long people go for it
[2016-12-30 11:25:10] Freewizard : sell your houses for longs
[2016-12-30 11:26:27] SilverKnight : hmm.... I still say this is a place to look for sells...
[2016-12-30 11:26:46] SilverKnight : but what do I know... ;)
[2016-12-30 11:27:17] Freewizard : long your houses long your wives
[2016-12-30 11:27:25] SilverKnight : Freewizard: haha
[2016-12-30 11:27:55] MikeHunt : we may be approaching the rekt slide
[2016-12-30 11:32:23] Freewizard : buy my long i wanna get off
[2016-12-30 11:32:36] Freewizard : feels strange
[2016-12-30 11:34:12] Freewizard : the buy wall is gone..
[2016-12-30 11:35:26] Freewizard : wheres all my fellows going to the moon with me am I the only one left?
[2016-12-30 11:36:18] bingbongfly : hey what's best in ETC right now, sell my long or wait for settlement
[2016-12-30 11:36:27] bingbongfly : Can I caluclate the settlement price?
[2016-12-30 11:37:29] bingbongfly : I've found the index ETCXBT30M, but it's a TWAP from the last 30 minutes, is it calculated already or do I have to do it?
[2016-12-30 11:38:07] sleger : it is already twap
[2016-12-30 11:38:15] bingbongfly : but the index is 0.0013 and the actual price is around 0.00155
[2016-12-30 11:38:26] bingbongfly : so if it settles right now it would go off as a sell at 0.0013?
[2016-12-30 11:38:58] sleger : "but the index is 0.0013 " ??
[2016-12-30 11:39:09] bingbongfly : the index price
[2016-12-30 11:39:16] Freewizard : wheres all my to tha moon friends..
[2016-12-30 11:39:16] bingbongfly : I'm not quite sure where I can see it
[2016-12-30 11:39:18] sleger : ??
[2016-12-30 11:39:21] bingbongfly : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.ETCXBT30M
[2016-12-30 11:39:32] bingbongfly : The index price they use for settlement
[2016-12-30 11:39:45] bingbongfly : ah where's all the admins when you need em? x)
[2016-12-30 11:39:47] sleger : Dec 29, ?
[2016-12-30 11:39:49] sleger : dummy
[2016-12-30 11:39:54] bingbongfly : yes I see that
[2016-12-30 11:40:00] sleger : whats the day today ?
[2016-12-30 11:40:00] bingbongfly : and the price for now?
[2016-12-30 11:40:05] bingbongfly : Can you see it?
[2016-12-30 11:40:11] bingbongfly : Because I can't...
[2016-12-30 11:40:11] sleger : yes i can
[2016-12-30 11:40:16] bingbongfly : can you tell me please?
[2016-12-30 11:40:30] sleger : 0.001566
[2016-12-30 11:40:38] bingbongfly : so it's that purple line?
[2016-12-30 11:40:49] sleger : i dont watch graphs
[2016-12-30 11:40:52] bingbongfly : basically around where the contract will settle?
[2016-12-30 11:41:00] bingbongfly : well where did you find the price?
[2016-12-30 11:41:02] sleger : i dont know i cant see the future
[2016-12-30 11:41:08] bingbongfly : hm dummy
[2016-12-30 11:41:13] Freewizard : buy and hodl people
[2016-12-30 11:41:14] bingbongfly : where did you find the price?
[2016-12-30 11:41:17] bingbongfly : then
[2016-12-30 11:41:26] bingbongfly : it's not the actuall marketprice..
[2016-12-30 11:41:29] sleger : bingbongfly: so you're the idiot who cant figure it out and YOU call me dummy ?
[2016-12-30 11:41:31] sleger : good luck
[2016-12-30 11:41:38] bingbongfly : sleger: well you just took the marketprice
[2016-12-30 11:41:42] bingbongfly : when I asked for the index price..
[2016-12-30 11:41:49] bingbongfly : but thanks for trying
[2016-12-30 11:41:52] sleger : no i told you the answer
[2016-12-30 11:41:57] sleger : not the market price
[2016-12-30 11:41:57] bingbongfly : sleger: no you didn't
[2016-12-30 11:42:07] sleger : but screw you
[2016-12-30 11:42:11] bingbongfly : pftt
[2016-12-30 11:42:17] bingbongfly : thanks for your efforts
[2016-12-30 11:43:16] BTCDJS : jeez you could cut the atmosphere with a knife in here
[2016-12-30 11:43:30] sleger : what should be cut is idiots
[2016-12-30 11:43:33] sleger : who cant be thankful
[2016-12-30 11:43:35] Freewizard : my friends please buy
[2016-12-30 11:44:29] BTCDJS : Freewizard: my friend I will but lower
[2016-12-30 11:44:34] Freewizard : I believe in your souls
[2016-12-30 11:44:47] bingbongfly : dont forget to cut the big egos...
[2016-12-30 11:45:28] Freewizard : make bitcoin great again
[2016-12-30 11:45:42] BTCDJS : The biggest ego is the one who says "I have no ego"
[2016-12-30 11:45:57] Freewizard : if 21 million people buy 1 bitcoins they can save me
[2016-12-30 11:46:17] sleger : what will you own then ?
[2016-12-30 11:46:18] BTCDJS : Freewizard: save yourself. Set stop losses
[2016-12-30 11:46:40] BTCDJS : 50$
[2016-12-30 11:46:59] Freewizard : bless you all have a happy new year I'll come back someday
[2016-12-30 11:47:09] sleger : why ?
[2016-12-30 11:47:13] sleger : you havent get rekt yet
[2016-12-30 11:47:18] MikeHunt : Freewizard: are you on the rekt soon list?
[2016-12-30 11:47:28] Freewizard : ;)
[2016-12-30 11:47:43] lockhedge : micmix: good accountants will tell you to move your yacht to Monaco and become resident there ;)
[2016-12-30 11:48:27] Freewizard : someone said to sell at 1130
[2016-12-30 11:48:39] Freewizard : which i dont see coming
[2016-12-30 11:48:58] MikeHunt : Freewizard: china hit 1k and then bottled it
[2016-12-30 11:49:09] MikeHunt : many here thought we had to get 1k as well, turns out....
[2016-12-30 11:49:09] sleger : bitmex, what happens to btcjpy ?
[2016-12-30 11:49:13] sleger : no new contract ?
[2016-12-30 11:49:35] sleger : it was supposed to be the new mecca
[2016-12-30 11:52:32] Freewizard : this gonna rise to 1k
[2016-12-30 11:52:42] Freewizard : i can smell it
[2016-12-30 11:53:12] BTCDJS : Freewizard: what does it smell of
[2016-12-30 11:54:03] MikeHunt : Freewizard: it already hit 1k though
[2016-12-30 11:54:10] MikeHunt : Freewizard: 93%+ volume is chinese
[2016-12-30 11:54:13] micmix : lockhedge: that's why you open Seychelles corp
[2016-12-30 11:54:19] Freewizard : was this rally just a santa ponzi scheme?
[2016-12-30 11:54:22] MikeHunt : Freewizard: what makes you think 7% can overcome 93% ?
[2016-12-30 11:59:01] MrRGnome : fuck the way they calculate settlement on futures.
[2016-12-30 11:59:55] MoneySeeMoneyDo : dump dump dump
[2016-12-30 12:00:24] sleger : MrRGnome: why ?
[2016-12-30 12:01:11] MrRGnome : Because the dec 30 btc future was settled 4-5 dollars below the index.
[2016-12-30 12:01:21] MikeHunt : another 100cny drop incoming maybe
[2016-12-30 12:01:31] aethlios : they pump with 1000 btc okcoin march
[2016-12-30 12:01:36] MrRGnome : That 30 minute average crap
[2016-12-30 12:01:59] sleger : well its in the specs
[2016-12-30 12:02:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 600 @ 991.49
[2016-12-30 12:02:02] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2016-12-30 12:02:04] MrRGnome : I know it i
[2016-12-30 12:02:06] MrRGnome : *is
[2016-12-30 12:02:12] MrRGnome : I just think it's retarded.
[2016-12-30 12:02:33] sleger : you'd take just the spot at the last second ?
[2016-12-30 12:02:37] MrRGnome : I would, yeah
[2016-12-30 12:02:43] sleger : how stupid
[2016-12-30 12:02:51] sleger : that would be super easy to manipulate
[2016-12-30 12:02:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4 @ 939.42 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-30 12:02:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 40 @ 939.74
[2016-12-30 12:03:06] lockhedge : micmix: afaik a Seychelles IBC has to have its tax residency (principal place of business) outside the Seychelles and apart from that shareholders/directors of that company have to pay income tax in the countries where they are tax resident.
[2016-12-30 12:03:16] MrRGnome : sleger: If you can manipulate the index then you've already broken the other exchanges
[2016-12-30 12:03:51] sleger : it's easy to manipulate bitstamp and okcoin usd therefore the index by at least 3$ for few seconds
[2016-12-30 12:03:55] sleger : much harder for 30 minutes
[2016-12-30 12:04:14] nOgAnOo : It says I have a december position open yet.. what does that mean?
[2016-12-30 12:04:19] nOgAnOo : How do I close it?
[2016-12-30 12:04:29] MrRGnome : But other contracts don't use the 30 minute weight and are subject tot he exact volatility you're talking about to various degrees
[2016-12-30 12:04:37] sleger : which ones ?
[2016-12-30 12:04:38] MrRGnome : Are you saying that they all need more time weighted averages
[2016-12-30 12:04:48] sleger : im saying they all do
[2016-12-30 12:04:58] MrRGnome : well for example, BTC swap index was literally 2.5 dolalrs above BTCZ16
[2016-12-30 12:05:16] sleger : " MrRGnome: But other contracts don't use the 30 minute weight" <= which ?
[2016-12-30 12:05:38] MrRGnome : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT
[2016-12-30 12:05:54] sleger : that's not a contract
[2016-12-30 12:06:00] MrRGnome : Are you joking?
[2016-12-30 12:06:02] sleger : cf my question above
[2016-12-30 12:06:09] sleger : that's the index, its not a contract
[2016-12-30 12:06:22] sleger : maybe you should stick to CDN, and forget about trading
[2016-12-30 12:06:26] lastminute : Hi, got a question. When you put market order with leverage. The notional value is not what you lose if that hit the liq. price, but only your margin ?
[2016-12-30 12:06:26] MrRGnome : So you are saying you can't find a contract that uses this index
[2016-12-30 12:06:32] MrRGnome : You just don't know of one on this site
[2016-12-30 12:06:33] sleger : no
[2016-12-30 12:06:47] sleger : look:
[2016-12-30 12:06:52] sleger : " MrRGnome: But other contracts don't use the 30 minute weight" <= which ones
[2016-12-30 12:06:52] MrRGnome : It's the swap index man
[2016-12-30 12:07:02] MrRGnome : the XBTUSD CONTRACT
[2016-12-30 12:07:05] sleger : give me a contract that doesnt settle on some twap
[2016-12-30 12:07:12] sleger : the xbtusd does not settle
[2016-12-30 12:07:14] sleger : at all
[2016-12-30 12:07:15] MrRGnome : What are you talking about?
[2016-12-30 12:07:31] MrRGnome : Why would I need to do that to wish that futures also used the minutely iondex?
[2016-12-30 12:07:54] sleger : ^ not english
[2016-12-30 12:08:09] MrRGnome : because I fat fingered index?
[2016-12-30 12:08:26] sleger : you dont make any sense
[2016-12-30 12:08:36] sleger : all future contracts settle on some TWAP
[2016-12-30 12:08:37] nOgAnOo : HOW DO I GET INTO DEC 31 CHART OR CLOSE MY POSITION
[2016-12-30 12:08:37] m3s : so now we go to 1000?
[2016-12-30 12:08:42] MrRGnome : First you don't know that there is a minutely index, then you insist it's not associated to a contract,t hen suddenly swap contracts aren't contracts
[2016-12-30 12:08:44] MrRGnome : and now you can't read
[2016-12-30 12:08:46] nOgAnOo : ??????????????
[2016-12-30 12:08:49] m3s : nOgAnOo: refresh browser
[2016-12-30 12:09:02] nOgAnOo : It is gone
[2016-12-30 12:09:13] m3s : try different browser ?
[2016-12-30 12:09:19] sleger : and yet i was long z16 and didnt get screwed like you :D
[2016-12-30 12:09:19] m3s : dont use IE6
[2016-12-30 12:09:50] MrRGnome : So you are telling em you settled at a price higher than 935.50?
[2016-12-30 12:09:55] MrRGnome : Because I'm calling you a liar if you are
[2016-12-30 12:10:37] sleger : no
[2016-12-30 12:10:40] rms : ETCWIN, gone forever?
[2016-12-30 12:10:50] sleger : but i bought slowly my position from z16 on the swap over the twap period
[2016-12-30 12:10:54] MrRGnome : And I certainly didn't get screwed, but I appreciate your concern. Heavens forgive me for wanting a little additional profit and to see that rise that occured in tha tlast few minutes of the contract
[2016-12-30 12:10:58] sleger : rms: unfortuately yes
[2016-12-30 12:11:57] lockhedge : nOgAnOo: it's Dec 30, it just settled
[2016-12-30 12:12:12] nOgAnOo : Then why do I have a position still open it says???
[2016-12-30 12:12:21] nOgAnOo : Oh nevermind It's the march one
[2016-12-30 12:12:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 150 @ 943.34
[2016-12-30 12:13:29] nOgAnOo : ok we're heading back down boys
[2016-12-30 12:14:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 943.58
[2016-12-30 12:15:30] l3f : dont' short the bottom
[2016-12-30 12:15:33] MoneySeeMoneyDo : after it broke out of the narrow channel i thought it was off to the races, how come we aren't seeing massive upswing? not a lot of people trading i think
[2016-12-30 12:15:33] shery : china might bounce hard from here back up too
[2016-12-30 12:15:37] sleger : MrRGnome: anyways, there's a reason all future contracts settle on some sort of twap, if you cant figure it out too bad for you
[2016-12-30 12:15:38] MoneySeeMoneyDo : or someone keep it down?
[2016-12-30 12:17:22] MrRGnome : sleger: Whatever you say, at least I understand that swap is a contract and has a minutely index, all of which is coherent english anyone with a 6th grade reading level could muster,
[2016-12-30 12:17:53] sleger : i skipped 6th grade, i was THAT good
[2016-12-30 12:18:06] sleger : and i understand that about the swap, thanks
[2016-12-30 12:18:34] ytaews : MrRGnome: the closest thing the swap has to settlement is the premium calculation, which is based on an 8hr average
[2016-12-30 12:18:37] MrRGnome : Really? because I asked you a minute ago and you said you had no idea what CONTRACT used the minutely index
[2016-12-30 12:19:39] sleger : quote ?
[2016-12-30 12:20:17] MrRGnome : [05:04] sleger: im saying they all do [05:04] MrRGnome: well for example, BTC swap index was literally 2.5 dolalrs above BTCZ16 [05:05] sleger: " MrRGnome: But other contracts don't use the 30 minute weight" <= which ? [05:05] MrRGnome: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT [05:05] sleger: that's not a contract [05:06] MrRGnome: Are you joking?
[2016-12-30 12:20:46] MrRGnome : [05:06] MrRGnome: So you are saying you can't find a contract that uses this index You just don't know of one on this site [05:06] sleger: no look: " MrRGnome: But other contracts don't use the 30 minute weight" <= which ones [05:06] MrRGnome: It's the swap index man the XBTUSD CONTRACT
[2016-12-30 12:20:57] bingbongfly : rofl sleger getting burnt x)
[2016-12-30 12:21:08] sleger : that part : [05:05] MrRGnome: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT [05:05] sleger: that's not a contract
[2016-12-30 12:21:09] sleger : ?
[2016-12-30 12:21:18] sleger : your link does not point to a contract
[2016-12-30 12:21:24] sleger : as the name says in the url btw
[2016-12-30 12:21:38] bingbongfly : yeah, point to index
[2016-12-30 12:21:39] MrRGnome : Maybe try reading the CONTRACT details
[2016-12-30 12:21:45] MrRGnome : You can find the VALUE OF THE CONTRACT
[2016-12-30 12:21:50] MrRGnome : The OPEN CONTRACTS
[2016-12-30 12:22:02] MrRGnome : Take a peek, it's a cool site
[2016-12-30 12:22:07] sleger : your logic is just broken
[2016-12-30 12:22:15] MrRGnome : Your reading comprehension is broken
[2016-12-30 12:22:36] Freewizard : is this my last exit?
[2016-12-30 12:22:40] laisee : Stale mate
[2016-12-30 12:22:43] sleger : [05:05] MrRGnome: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT [05:05] sleger: that's not a contract ^ that guy is correct
[2016-12-30 12:23:01] sleger : sleger: " MrRGnome: But other contracts don't use the 30 minute weight" <= which ?
[2016-12-30 12:23:01] ytaews : MrRGnome: can you point out where in the XBTUSD specification it says the swap contract settles on a 1 minute snap?
[2016-12-30 12:23:06] sleger : ^ still didnt get an answer
[2016-12-30 12:23:17] MrRGnome : YOu are deluded
[2016-12-30 12:23:21] MrRGnome : It literally says contract
[2016-12-30 12:23:24] MrRGnome : everywhere
[2016-12-30 12:23:29] MrRGnome : all over that instrument
[2016-12-30 12:23:41] sleger : .XBT is NOT a contract
[2016-12-30 12:23:45] sleger : it is NOT the swap
[2016-12-30 12:23:54] MrRGnome : It's the index sure
[2016-12-30 12:24:00] MrRGnome : And it's used on... A CONTRACT
[2016-12-30 12:24:04] sleger : good
[2016-12-30 12:24:09] sleger : now you're correct
[2016-12-30 12:24:13] MrRGnome : If you READ THE ABOVE QOUTED TEXT
[2016-12-30 12:24:22] MrRGnome : you'd know we already discussed this
[2016-12-30 12:24:34] sleger : now from someone who seems to understand : ytaews: MrRGnome: can you point out where in the XBTUSD specification it says the swap contract settles on a 1 minute snap?
[2016-12-30 12:24:52] MrRGnome : Do you really need me to quote it again
[2016-12-30 12:24:53] lockhedge : and the index that is used to calculate XBTUSD mark price is actually updated from Kaiko every 5 seconds, not every minute
[2016-12-30 12:25:09] sleger : lockhedge: let's not confuse him too much
[2016-12-30 12:25:20] MrRGnome : [05:04] sleger: im saying they all do [05:04] MrRGnome: well for example, BTC swap index was literally 2.5 dolalrs above BTCZ16 [05:05] sleger: " MrRGnome: But other contracts don't use the 30 minute weight" <= which ? [05:05] MrRGnome: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT [05:05] sleger: that's not a contract [05:06] MrRGnome: Are you joking? [05:06] MrRGnome: So you are saying you can't find a contract that uses this index You just don't know of one on this site [05:06] sleger: no look: " MrRGnome: But other contracts don't use the 30 minute weight" <= which ones [05:06] MrRGnome: It's the swap index man the XBTUSD CONTRACT
[2016-12-30 12:25:28] brouk : lol
[2016-12-30 12:25:39] PARAFFIN : will bitcoin go up today? xD
[2016-12-30 12:25:44] MrRGnome : lockhedge: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT it calls itself minutely, so I am also calling it what it is labelled
[2016-12-30 12:26:18] sleger : " MrRGnome: But other contracts don't use the 30 minute weight" to settle, since that's what we were discussing
[2016-12-30 12:26:26] shery : selling pressure is on
[2016-12-30 12:26:27] sleger : nobody argued they dont use spot (index) at all
[2016-12-30 12:26:35] Freewizard : i'm back on full longs
[2016-12-30 12:26:36] sleger : now i understand your confusion
[2016-12-30 12:26:40] Freewizard : help see 1k
[2016-12-30 12:26:47] Tr : this is a dead cant bounce
[2016-12-30 12:26:50] Tr : very weak
[2016-12-30 12:26:50] MrRGnome : lol I'm not confused buddy
[2016-12-30 12:27:08] sleger : neither are crazy people, or so they think
[2016-12-30 12:27:09] Tr : bulls trying to get erect but all they show is weak limp penis
[2016-12-30 12:27:10] Freewizard : your purchasing power helps up to 1k
[2016-12-30 12:27:16] MrRGnome : I'm advocating an opinion, and you're having reading comprehension issues
[2016-12-30 12:28:03] Freewizard : buy your longs
[2016-12-30 12:28:10] Freewizard : to sell mine :)
[2016-12-30 12:28:36] lastminute : why I don't see the charts on bitmex?
[2016-12-30 12:28:46] Tr : this dead cat is more dead than a cat who was digged out of a grave and killed again
[2016-12-30 12:29:26] Freewizard : buy the 1k futures to support hope
[2016-12-30 12:29:30] shery : Tr: Guess what if it pumps hard to 1k in coming hours , RIP shorters
[2016-12-30 12:29:57] Tr : shery still in delusions of a bull market
[2016-12-30 12:30:18] MoneySeeMoneyDo : it touched the bollinger three times, why didn't it skyrocket?
[2016-12-30 12:30:22] Tr : current buying is noobs filling orders of people who know its over lmao
[2016-12-30 12:30:37] shery : Tr: This pump was a long pump, and a strong one it wont end up softly like this !
[2016-12-30 12:30:47] MoneySeeMoneyDo : just got off the phone with warren buffet, he said load up we are mooning in fifteen minutes
[2016-12-30 12:30:51] nOgAnOo : :)
[2016-12-30 12:30:51] laisee : Or manipulated MIT up,down and up again ...
[2016-12-30 12:30:53] nOgAnOo : I'm all in short
[2016-12-30 12:31:00] nOgAnOo : 60x leveraged
[2016-12-30 12:31:01] Tr : shery its already ended, on a big picture double top
[2016-12-30 12:31:12] MoneySeeMoneyDo : boys this is touching 920 tonight, believe this
[2016-12-30 12:31:13] Tr : shery and now its H&S forming, beautiful pattern actually
[2016-12-30 12:31:25] MikeHunt : https://robertnielsen21.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/ci6rr.jpg
[2016-12-30 12:31:27] Tr : check 6h graph
[2016-12-30 12:31:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECH17`: buy 1 @ 0.047531
[2016-12-30 12:31:35] Tr : u see the shoulder, and now the head going down?
[2016-12-30 12:31:37] shery : Tr: So whats your target for tonight 920?
[2016-12-30 12:32:01] Tr : shery lol@above 900
[2016-12-30 12:32:31] nOgAnOo : YES! DUMP BABY
[2016-12-30 12:32:34] Freewizard : lets see what the chinese wants
[2016-12-30 12:32:48] shery : when it will dump it will free fall
[2016-12-30 12:32:48] nOgAnOo : Dump all over me China, it's what I want
[2016-12-30 12:32:55] MoneySeeMoneyDo : Just got off the phone with the Chiense exchanges, they want me to tell you that it's going down in flames tonight.
[2016-12-30 12:32:56] Freewizard : a big red candle of okcoin 1m
[2016-12-30 12:33:53] MoneySeeMoneyDo : anyone know how to reset your chart?
[2016-12-30 12:33:56] MoneySeeMoneyDo : mine is all wonky
[2016-12-30 12:34:08] MikeHunt : MoneySeeMoneyDo: like zoomed in/out?
[2016-12-30 12:34:20] Tr : Bulls are like liberals who refuse to believe that Trump won
[2016-12-30 12:34:25] MoneySeeMoneyDo : no get rid of all the bollingers and add ons and what not
[2016-12-30 12:34:28] Tr : The rally is over, deal with it
[2016-12-30 12:34:40] MikeHunt : MoneySeeMoneyDo: reset drawings button i think
[2016-12-30 12:35:17] MikeHunt : MoneySeeMoneyDo: enlarge chart, then dustbin icon on left vertical tab
[2016-12-30 12:35:26] Freewizard : no hillary is the winner is that what im saying?
[2016-12-30 12:35:35] Freewizard : go clinton!
[2016-12-30 12:36:06] Freewizard : its not gonna dump yet
[2016-12-30 12:36:57] Freewizard : okcoin looks bad though
[2016-12-30 12:37:37] Freewizard : shit the chinese throing their coins hard
[2016-12-30 12:38:23] Nooby : I told you guys to buy when it was 930! It will raise again to 960 easy and >1000$ for nye
[2016-12-30 12:38:43] Tr : ye sur
[2016-12-30 12:38:47] shery : Nooby: new year is near
[2016-12-30 12:39:00] Nooby : And???
[2016-12-30 12:39:22] shery : Nooby: 60 $- almost 87 Hours
[2016-12-30 12:39:32] nOgAnOo : funding rate is positive so longs pay the shorts?
[2016-12-30 12:39:41] shery : sorry 54
[2016-12-30 12:40:05] Nooby : Lol nothing...! Just have to see this past day , 60$ of fluctuation is not so big
[2016-12-30 12:42:14] Freewizard : go for the 1k futures people show your respect
[2016-12-30 12:44:03] Nooby : ??
[2016-12-30 12:47:08] lockhedge : volatility is (still) very low, this was nothing compared to the pump in June http://www.tradingview.com/x/fq4IC5yA
[2016-12-30 12:49:31] chords : i need help, i wish i could get some donation, am in debt got liquidated trice loosed all my money and even my friend's money. can y'all help with some donation am out of bitmex for good.1FnoFo3Z2qycRXHk2wxdxfTKCA6fszp4JK would rilli appreciate some helping
[2016-12-30 12:49:53] startChat : chords: sent a few bits hope it helps
[2016-12-30 12:50:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 100 @ 1002.21
[2016-12-30 12:53:32] shery : looking like it bounced from 930, RIp shorters
[2016-12-30 12:56:49] shery : pump ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[2016-12-30 12:56:58] Headroom : chords sorry but your a pathetic
[2016-12-30 12:57:23] Headroom : that's why many people don't have to come to the market world, you are not the first I meet online and IRL
[2016-12-30 12:57:35] Headroom : you just stupid to use your friends money
[2016-12-30 12:57:41] chords : startchat:thanks,wished i never joined this site
[2016-12-30 12:57:47] Headroom : and at the place of your friend, I'd kick your ass
[2016-12-30 12:57:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 948.63
[2016-12-30 12:58:02] Headroom : you R the ONLYE one responsible of your money holy crap...