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[2015-11-04 00:46:18] 1z6 : onion down?
[2015-11-04 00:46:24] Murch : On a random note, I cannot wait for alts to start popping left and right.
[2015-11-04 00:47:44] SnackyCoins : hidden service is going away, bitmex has to be able to prove to america that it is doing it's best not to allow americans on the site
[2015-11-04 00:49:37] 1z6 : your serious.
[2015-11-04 00:49:40] 1z6 : the blog post is gone
[2015-11-04 00:49:40] Murch : land uf the frie
[2015-11-04 00:52:08] Satoshi : whos making those 3500 orders lol
[2015-11-04 00:52:25] SnackyCoins : maybe it's 2500+1000 :)
[2015-11-04 00:52:31] Satoshi : nah
[2015-11-04 00:52:34] Satoshi : its a bot lol
[2015-11-04 00:52:55] Satoshi : but whos bot :P
[2015-11-04 00:53:08] micmix : Satoshi: it's a market maker bot. we lost a big one with 10k+ orders, only small one left
[2015-11-04 00:53:08] mwalshe99 : Satoshi: nice username
[2015-11-04 00:54:10] Satoshi : micmix: sorry to hear that, i tried to use the bot (python) but i prefer something gui
[2015-11-04 00:54:20] Satoshi : mwalshe99: thanks :D
[2015-11-04 00:54:25] micmix : Satoshi: might be the same MM bot that decreased quote size bc of high volatility
[2015-11-04 00:55:08] Swedishnut : is it Good morning in China yet?
[2015-11-04 00:55:50] Satoshi : Swedishnut: yes its 9am
[2015-11-04 00:56:18] Swedishnut : nice :) yeah it appears people are waking up
[2015-11-04 01:00:03] jung1 : http://coinorama.net/
[2015-11-04 01:00:12] jung1 : good charts
[2015-11-04 01:10:47] Swedishnut : yep looks like a healthy tumbling toddler
[2015-11-04 01:11:13] Swedishnut : folks simply need to start feeding it an allowance
[2015-11-04 01:14:02] wurstgelee : everybody too scared to buy :p
[2015-11-04 01:14:18] Satoshi : im trying to run MM bot : ERROR - ws_thread - Couldn't connect to WS! Exiting.
[2015-11-04 01:19:58] Swedishnut : I think it is now painful to buy if you had been used to 225-250... 2nd, Fiat is "strong ((USD wise)" thus it is getting much cash outs I'm sure and there are people awaiting xfers
[2015-11-04 01:20:32] Liivet : xfers?
[2015-11-04 01:20:39] jung1 : yeah its a bit gambling now
[2015-11-04 01:20:44] Murch : Markets can have short term memory loss haha
[2015-11-04 01:20:45] jung1 : but I think it will go up
[2015-11-04 01:21:38] jung1 : and its suicide to open daily when market can change $15 in 5min
[2015-11-04 01:21:51] wurstgelee : no, its great ;)
[2015-11-04 01:22:09] jung1 : pure gambling
[2015-11-04 01:22:09] wurstgelee : bought the small dump @ 418.81 average =)
[2015-11-04 01:22:09] Swedishnut : yeah people feel it is gambling at this point. All the same next month they may never think twice if it hits these "lows" again
[2015-11-04 01:22:29] SnackyCoins : you don't have to go 100x you know
[2015-11-04 01:22:45] SnackyCoins : my acct is never more than 6, maybe 7x max
[2015-11-04 01:22:47] Murch : go big or go home
[2015-11-04 01:23:11] jung1 : wait what
[2015-11-04 01:23:21] jung1 : how you can change it on daily?
[2015-11-04 01:23:36] Murch : He means his account total leverage
[2015-11-04 01:23:45] jung1 : oh
[2015-11-04 01:23:49] SnackyCoins : you can either go cross margin by unchecking the isolate margin checkbox (after open) or in the order options setting to cross
[2015-11-04 01:23:50] jung1 : yeah that I know
[2015-11-04 01:23:56] SnackyCoins : or you can click the +B
[2015-11-04 01:24:01] SnackyCoins : +B and manually add margin
[2015-11-04 01:24:17] SnackyCoins : double in your margin and now you are 50x
[2015-11-04 01:24:25] SnackyCoins : or add even more
[2015-11-04 01:24:51] SnackyCoins : the +B is blue and appears in the Margin column on your open positions
[2015-11-04 01:26:07] Murch : Yeeeeeee buddy
[2015-11-04 01:28:49] jung1 : http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/investment_club/trader/262/BestProfit
[2015-11-04 01:29:00] jung1 : Profit / Loss +68,182.63 %
[2015-11-04 01:29:04] jung1 : : |
[2015-11-04 01:30:12] Murch : seems legit
[2015-11-04 01:31:56] Murch : 200.03% This is where most people would stop pushing their luck.
[2015-11-04 01:32:01] wurstgelee : sold that dump i bought earlier for 250%
[2015-11-04 01:32:13] wurstgelee : yeah, i felt like pushing to much above 200
[2015-11-04 01:32:27] wurstgelee : anyways...gnight! ;)
[2015-11-04 01:32:33] Murch : Night man
[2015-11-04 01:33:20] Murch : I guess I'll be sensible
[2015-11-04 01:40:27] CrazyC : wats with the bitmex 3500 bot
[2015-11-04 01:40:43] Yumi : its market maker bot
[2015-11-04 01:40:47] Matthew.v : YEah screw that thing
[2015-11-04 01:40:55] Matthew.v : I get choped by it
[2015-11-04 01:41:01] podizzler3000 : haha
[2015-11-04 01:41:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Then it's working correctly
[2015-11-04 01:41:09] podizzler3000 : anti bot people crack me up
[2015-11-04 01:41:41] Yumi : it provides liquidity
[2015-11-04 01:42:04] Swedishnut : necessary evil
[2015-11-04 01:43:15] SnackyCoins : i love that bot, it isn't made for trending markets
[2015-11-04 01:44:24] SnackyCoins : you can get filled pretty quick on 24h these days if you have a top of the book limit order
[2015-11-04 01:44:52] Juicers27ss : we going high!!!!! read the news www.nasdaqtoday.com
[2015-11-04 01:44:53] nickhnt : I Like this bot too
[2015-11-04 01:45:10] nickhnt : I think the bot is getting rekt
[2015-11-04 01:45:22] messiaen8844 : http://www.coindesk.com/overstock-rumor-nasdaq-to-blockchain-platform/
[2015-11-04 01:45:45] Juicers27ss : watch the video!
[2015-11-04 01:45:58] messiaen8844 : all your blockchain are belong to us
[2015-11-04 01:47:42] Satoshi : DO NOT RUN THAT LINK
[2015-11-04 01:47:52] Satoshi : FLASH EXPLOIT
[2015-11-04 01:48:39] podizzler3000 : thanks for the link. although i clicked the exe and nothing happened and the file disappeared
[2015-11-04 01:48:40] podizzler3000 : weird
[2015-11-04 01:48:54] podizzler3000 : ill try again on my other computer
[2015-11-04 01:49:08] Satoshi : try to scan your pc!!
[2015-11-04 01:49:26] podizzler3000 : bro i try every night its just small and unimpressive
[2015-11-04 01:49:42] nickhnt : Linux 4 life
[2015-11-04 01:49:54] SnackyCoins : ^
[2015-11-04 01:50:04] podizzler3000 : gaming is rough go on linux
[2015-11-04 01:50:12] podizzler3000 : or else i might try that minty mint
[2015-11-04 01:50:15] nickhnt : True
[2015-11-04 01:50:18] SnackyCoins : steambox is linux
[2015-11-04 01:50:20] podizzler3000 : big sell wall on bitstamp
[2015-11-04 01:50:37] SnackyCoins : unreal engine and unity5 both just put out linux SDK's
[2015-11-04 01:50:45] nickhnt : Yeah steambox gonna change that
[2015-11-04 01:50:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : podizzler3000: 420 BTC? Not that big
[2015-11-04 01:50:54] Satoshi : if you run the exe then this exe disappeared then it mean its 100% trojan in stealth mode lol
[2015-11-04 01:50:59] SnackyCoins : dota2 runs better on linux than it did on windows on my machine :)
[2015-11-04 01:51:15] SnackyCoins : yep to what satoshi said
[2015-11-04 01:51:26] Juicers27ss : http://www.nasdaqtoday.com/Overstock-has-confirmed-that-Nasdaq-is-using-blockchain
[2015-11-04 01:51:34] SnackyCoins : can we get a ban for this guy?
[2015-11-04 01:51:42] Satoshi : Juicers27ss: go away bitch
[2015-11-04 01:52:14] SnackyCoins : is that you adam lol
[2015-11-04 01:53:39] nickhnt : Yeah if the file disappeared then you are infected
[2015-11-04 01:53:50] nickhnt : I got hacked last year Like this
[2015-11-04 01:54:06] nickhnt : They took 1.7 btcs from my bitfinex account
[2015-11-04 01:54:20] podizzler3000 : that reminds me i should probably 2fa
[2015-11-04 01:54:43] Satoshi : podizzler3000: u should disconnect internet now and scan pc
[2015-11-04 01:54:51] nickhnt : Always 2fa
[2015-11-04 01:54:54] Satoshi : + change all passwords and shit
[2015-11-04 01:55:02] nickhnt : Delete cookies
[2015-11-04 01:55:07] nickhnt : History
[2015-11-04 01:55:52] Satoshi : most important passwords + disconnect internet + spent any bitcoin on hot wallet with no password !
[2015-11-04 01:56:11] Satoshi : spend*/move
[2015-11-04 01:57:30] nickhnt : Yeah listen to satoshi
[2015-11-04 01:57:39] nickhnt : Hes the man
[2015-11-04 01:59:29] Satoshi : nickhnt: lol i think he already in panic mode and shut down pc
[2015-11-04 02:00:29] jung1 : damn what a ride
[2015-11-04 02:00:35] SnackyCoins : it's a good idea to set flash to only run when you right click -> run plugin
[2015-11-04 02:00:42] SnackyCoins : or just uninstall flash.
[2015-11-04 02:00:48] SnackyCoins : then stop installing flash
[2015-11-04 02:01:06] SnackyCoins : youtube doesn't use flash
[2015-11-04 02:01:12] jung1 : we will not see $400 anymore in near future
[2015-11-04 02:01:35] hanoosh : SnackyCoins:yes flash 0days are all over the place these days
[2015-11-04 02:01:58] nickhnt : Holy shitt
[2015-11-04 02:02:11] nickhnt : Glad i boughr the dip xd
[2015-11-04 02:03:10] jung1 : chart looks so familiar with '13
[2015-11-04 02:03:23] jung1 : but much stronger
[2015-11-04 02:04:02] nickhnt : jung1: how much do you think it will top?
[2015-11-04 02:04:34] jung1 : hard to say but I bet we will hit ath in this year
[2015-11-04 02:05:10] jung1 : then maybe some dump and right pump around may/june before halving
[2015-11-04 02:05:44] gaoMex : PSA: DPE on XBTZ15 and XBTH16.
[2015-11-04 02:06:39] nickhnt : I think it can go to 5k at may or april
[2015-11-04 02:06:54] jung1 : possible
[2015-11-04 02:08:49] jung1 : too many good news. UE vat decision, gemini with insitute traders, nasdaq running on blockchain, China recently capped overseas cash withdrawals
[2015-11-04 02:09:32] jung1 : people starting understand that they have another option to store money in digital way
[2015-11-04 02:09:56] joequant : China has always capped overseas withdrawals.
[2015-11-04 02:10:12] joequant : Most of what you read about China in the bitcoin press is non-sense.
[2015-11-04 02:10:26] jung1 : its not hard to imagine bitcoin on 100k someday
[2015-11-04 02:10:48] imapotato : its not hard to imagine bitcoin on 100k by friday
[2015-11-04 02:11:33] nickhnt : And with the financial system going to a black hole, bitcoin seems Like a safe heaven
[2015-11-04 02:11:42] Swedishnut : yeah its money math. bitcoin has a huge market yet to capture
[2015-11-04 02:13:42] jung1 : question is where will be next floor for btc
[2015-11-04 02:13:50] imapotato : what happened to XBY24H premium
[2015-11-04 02:13:56] sleger : i thought the idiot market was already pretty well covered :)
[2015-11-04 02:14:08] jung1 : psyhological could be $1000
[2015-11-04 02:14:13] jung1 : after correction
[2015-11-04 02:14:16] imapotato : XBT24H*
[2015-11-04 02:14:29] Swedishnut : wherever the fiat finally decides to give in and spend their sacks of paper in their basement. after that wash there will be a floor
[2015-11-04 02:14:51] Swedishnut : whenever*
[2015-11-04 02:15:44] jung1 : but its really powerful pump now
[2015-11-04 02:15:54] jung1 : look at this $50 dump
[2015-11-04 02:16:01] nickhnt : This is nuts
[2015-11-04 02:16:18] jung1 : took 5h to recover
[2015-11-04 02:16:22] jung1 : even not
[2015-11-04 02:16:56] nickhnt : They are buying insanely strong
[2015-11-04 02:17:16] nickhnt : Maybe they know something that we dont
[2015-11-04 02:17:33] imapotato : It's interesting, this being the first major rally with trading spread across so many exchanges.
[2015-11-04 02:17:34] jung1 : 3000 cny tommorow
[2015-11-04 02:17:41] Swedishnut : well when you see your world burning due to negligence it makes sense to take the power of money creation from the fools in charge
[2015-11-04 02:17:52] imapotato : 3000 cny by the end of the hour
[2015-11-04 02:18:14] Satoshi : 3000cny in 30 mins
[2015-11-04 02:18:19] wspbtc : index on daily is catching up. People scared to buy it up and getting rekt?
[2015-11-04 02:18:23] Satoshi : who want to bet ;)
[2015-11-04 02:18:54] jung1 : bet with market
[2015-11-04 02:19:00] podizzler3000 : ok 100x short is in
[2015-11-04 02:19:05] podizzler3000 : annnnnnd its gone
[2015-11-04 02:19:06] spud : How about this for a theory. The market is still so small compared to the real world; no reason this doesn't go crazy. Especially with the diverse infrastructure that is now in place.
[2015-11-04 02:19:31] Satoshi : i take to 3000 for you
[2015-11-04 02:19:36] Swedishnut : sure would be a dream come true if we see a multi thousand dollar spike
[2015-11-04 02:20:02] Swedishnut : just an overwhelming tsunami of funny money
[2015-11-04 02:20:13] podizzler3000 : something like that happens china and usa will just ban it
[2015-11-04 02:20:21] podizzler3000 : if it becomes a threat
[2015-11-04 02:20:27] podizzler3000 : and the price will crash to $50
[2015-11-04 02:20:42] spud : seems hard to ban to me
[2015-11-04 02:20:42] podizzler3000 : unless they got their filthy mitts in it already
[2015-11-04 02:20:58] jung1 : yeah but look on the other side. Much more people use it for shopping and that coins are immidently sold on exchanges + a lot of margin. I has to be really strong group of people who buy it
[2015-11-04 02:20:58] podizzler3000 : hard to ban not really china has done it plenty of times already
[2015-11-04 02:21:01] imapotato : oh no btc banned?
[2015-11-04 02:21:06] spud : podizzler3000: now that is a theory I will not be buying
[2015-11-04 02:21:09] imapotato : better just turn mine in to the gov
[2015-11-04 02:21:09] Swedishnut : btc banned is a joke :P
[2015-11-04 02:21:11] imapotato : gg
[2015-11-04 02:21:31] imapotato : i'd hate for btc to be banned like marijuana
[2015-11-04 02:21:39] imapotato : that would be devastating
[2015-11-04 02:21:50] podizzler3000 : how is it a joke. if they shut down coinbase huobi okcoin and btcchina what do you think would happen
[2015-11-04 02:21:59] spud : imapotato: wait... it's a shame you can't grow your own
[2015-11-04 02:21:59] podizzler3000 : people are going to use btce?
[2015-11-04 02:22:09] spud : imapotato: hmm
[2015-11-04 02:22:15] imapotato : SPUD
[2015-11-04 02:22:19] imapotato : urapotato
[2015-11-04 02:22:26] spud : durp
[2015-11-04 02:22:33] nickhnt : I dont know if i should sell lol
[2015-11-04 02:22:38] nickhnt : Thats the hard part
[2015-11-04 02:22:40] spud : nickhnt: no
[2015-11-04 02:22:42] podizzler3000 : im just playing devils advocate ofc. by all accounts it seems china has given the green light to disrupt things.
[2015-11-04 02:23:05] imapotato : imapotato. urapotato. wuralpotatoes.
[2015-11-04 02:23:05] Swedishnut : look at how effective banning Cannabis has been. People find a way to get what they need. In btc's case it is truth in transactions
[2015-11-04 02:23:05] podizzler3000 : nickhnt sell a %
[2015-11-04 02:23:22] spud : imapotato: shh i will turn you to fries
[2015-11-04 02:23:41] imapotato : spud: pls no
[2015-11-04 02:23:44] podizzler3000 : swedishnut lets be real here nobody is buying btc because of its fundamentals. theyre buying to get in on the bubble ponzi
[2015-11-04 02:23:49] imapotato : DAE notice this local rally has low volume?
[2015-11-04 02:23:51] imapotato : a bit scary
[2015-11-04 02:24:01] nickhnt : I ll wait for 450
[2015-11-04 02:24:05] imapotato : I mean, I'm full retard long atm. But it's scary.
[2015-11-04 02:24:07] nickhnt : Then ill sell
[2015-11-04 02:24:13] podizzler3000 : btc taking over because it is a superior option is a long way away
[2015-11-04 02:24:16] Swedishnut : I'm here to gather enough btc to survive later :P
[2015-11-04 02:24:21] podizzler3000 : we're still in new adopter phase
[2015-11-04 02:24:26] imapotato : hey guys
[2015-11-04 02:24:33] imapotato : I like you, and I'm feeling generous
[2015-11-04 02:24:37] SnackyCoins : it's really bad to be full retard long at this point, we are having $50 candles
[2015-11-04 02:24:41] spud : I switched to 25X and small margin.... got burned being greedy
[2015-11-04 02:24:43] Swedishnut : indeed very new to many people so much learning too if you dive right in
[2015-11-04 02:24:46] Murch : I like you too!
[2015-11-04 02:24:49] SnackyCoins : when it goes down, it goes down faster than it goes up
[2015-11-04 02:24:51] imapotato : So I'll share a money-making method I found with you. It's not *great*, but it's doable.
[2015-11-04 02:24:51] Murch : And everyone!
[2015-11-04 02:24:55] jung1 : podizzler3000: hey podz. have you been trading on mcxnow?
[2015-11-04 02:25:25] nickhnt : Go potato go!
[2015-11-04 02:25:25] podizzler3000 : jung1 haha waiting patiently for mt mox
[2015-11-04 02:25:29] imapotato : There's a "cloud" mining site called nicehash. It's not your typical cloud mining ponzi, because it's actually real hashing power.
[2015-11-04 02:25:38] imapotato : It's basically an exchange where you can buy and sell hashing power.
[2015-11-04 02:25:44] jung1 : podizzler3000: yeah I knew it
[2015-11-04 02:25:47] jung1 : lukaut here
[2015-11-04 02:25:49] jung1 : hehe
[2015-11-04 02:25:49] Murch : Cloud mining is always terrible though
[2015-11-04 02:25:57] imapotato : And again, unlike other cloud services, you get to point the hashing power to any server you want.
[2015-11-04 02:26:00] jung1 : your nickname looks familiar
[2015-11-04 02:26:01] Swedishnut : bitmain offers this service as well and I can attest it paying what is promised
[2015-11-04 02:26:15] imapotato : Murch: I know. Every other one is basically a scam. The ones where you just put BTC in and get less BTC out.
[2015-11-04 02:26:28] imapotato : But this one lets you mine whatever you want and wherever, with other user's hash power.
[2015-11-04 02:26:33] imapotato : Fees are really high (4% on each end)
[2015-11-04 02:26:34] Swedishnut : currently they have PACMic contracts for 1 btc per TH
[2015-11-04 02:26:41] imapotato : But if you leave in low offers, you can sometimes get it cheap.
[2015-11-04 02:26:52] imapotato : Just point it to a low/zero fee pool and mine to your own address.
[2015-11-04 02:26:59] SnackyCoins : SimpleFX has 500x margin, geez: https://goo.gl/38BxUU You can trade other markets too like oil/euro
[2015-11-04 02:27:03] imapotato : Obviously a PPS or similar method is ideal to not deal with variance.
[2015-11-04 02:27:04] nickhnt : Trading is much more fun :)
[2015-11-04 02:27:09] imapotato : So that's it. :|
[2015-11-04 02:27:13] nickhnt : 500x??
[2015-11-04 02:27:17] SnackyCoins : yeah
[2015-11-04 02:27:21] imapotato : 500x where what why
[2015-11-04 02:27:27] nickhnt : Thats insane
[2015-11-04 02:27:28] SnackyCoins : https://goo.gl/38BxUU simpleFX
[2015-11-04 02:27:46] SnackyCoins : comes with metatrader4 too
[2015-11-04 02:27:50] SnackyCoins : which has a great mobile app
[2015-11-04 02:27:56] nickhnt : If the price Góes one cent up you have 100% profit lolll
[2015-11-04 02:28:12] SnackyCoins : slot machine for gamblers lol
[2015-11-04 02:28:17] nickhnt : The other eay around too
[2015-11-04 02:28:26] nickhnt : Way*
[2015-11-04 02:28:33] imapotato : oh no my full retard long
[2015-11-04 02:28:35] nickhnt : Lol
[2015-11-04 02:28:36] imapotato : btc pls fly
[2015-11-04 02:28:38] imapotato : arize chikun
[2015-11-04 02:29:19] jung1 : imapotato: its works? looks like bitclub network
[2015-11-04 02:29:40] imapotato : jung1: what works?
[2015-11-04 02:30:04] Swedishnut : so much frenzy
[2015-11-04 02:30:05] jung1 : that nicehash
[2015-11-04 02:30:14] imapotato : oh, yeah
[2015-11-04 02:30:29] imapotato : It's an order book, and you point the hashpower wherever you want
[2015-11-04 02:30:39] imapotato : Sometimes there are a lot of orders and it's overpriced
[2015-11-04 02:30:43] imapotato : But sometimes there's room for profit
[2015-11-04 02:31:44] imapotato : I was going through 2.5 BTC at a time. Turned something like 12.5 BTC into maybe 12.8 or so
[2015-11-04 02:32:07] imapotato : Not amazing profit, but if you use a pool with 0 variance and you put the orders in at the right price, it's basically guaranteed profit.
[2015-11-04 02:32:13] imapotato : Like lending on bitfinex, but a bit more profitable.
[2015-11-04 02:32:25] Swedishnut : yeah it apears people are eyeing up that 500$ 3000 CNY mark and wanting to set the new low there if plausible
[2015-11-04 02:32:42] imapotato : 3000 cny CHOO CHOO next stop 8888 cny
[2015-11-04 02:33:09] jung1 : these chinese fuckers are crazy
[2015-11-04 02:33:17] imapotato : LANGUAGE, JUNG1
[2015-11-04 02:33:19] Satoshi : jung1: thanks
[2015-11-04 02:33:28] imapotato : By the way, what's up with "woodchipper"? I'm assuming it has something to do with the faked volume.
[2015-11-04 02:33:31] imapotato : But I don't get it.
[2015-11-04 02:34:02] Swedishnut : I guess they see no better way than to spend all their paper for real money to hedge against further devaluation of their paper
[2015-11-04 02:34:21] SnackyCoins : potato: https://i.imgur.com/t0Pw9AN.png
[2015-11-04 02:35:32] Satoshi : SnackyCoins: LOL
[2015-11-04 02:35:49] imapotato : Lol, is that the original?
[2015-11-04 02:35:51] imapotato : I understand now, at least.
[2015-11-04 02:36:05] SnackyCoins : could be, it's slightly before i came around the trading community
[2015-11-04 02:36:25] imapotato : 2888 cny you know what that means
[2015-11-04 02:36:41] Juicers27ss : OKCoin rising up due to the nasdaq news BITCOIN TO 1000$++++ http://www.nasdaqtoday.com
[2015-11-04 02:36:59] Satoshi : Juicers27ss: STFU
[2015-11-04 02:37:07] Satoshi : Juicers27ss: TROJAN
[2015-11-04 02:37:07] Yumi : this will end up with links being disbaled
[2015-11-04 02:37:24] imapotato : I wonder if bitcoin is still top story on cb
[2015-11-04 02:37:32] jung1 : well buy rumors sell news
[2015-11-04 02:37:33] imapotato : cnbc*
[2015-11-04 02:37:43] imapotato : Nope, darn :|
[2015-11-04 02:38:06] imapotato : cnbc.com had the top story earlier with headline saying something like "Bitcoin up XX% this month; nobody knows why"
[2015-11-04 02:38:09] imapotato : Most accurate headline.
[2015-11-04 02:39:33] jung1 : I felt more comfortable in $250
[2015-11-04 02:39:47] joequant : I know why.
[2015-11-04 02:40:04] joequant : Chinese government dropping money from helicopters.
[2015-11-04 02:40:05] jung1 : happy trating with no stress
[2015-11-04 02:40:20] joequant : The Chinese government has a GDP target of 6.5%
[2015-11-04 02:40:35] joequant : Last month they went in slightly under.
[2015-11-04 02:40:52] joequant : So they pressed the gas, but they are restricting stock and property prices.
[2015-11-04 02:40:53] jung1 : so war is comming
[2015-11-04 02:41:00] joequant : So it goes into bitcoin.
[2015-11-04 02:41:12] joequant : No war. No one in China cares about the Spratlies.
[2015-11-04 02:41:19] habibi : USA is gonna bring their democracy to every country where Oil//i mean where bitcoin are
[2015-11-04 02:41:50] joequant : USA is tired.
[2015-11-04 02:41:59] jung1 : but when they realize that people move money by btc they could make something with exchanges
[2015-11-04 02:42:09] joequant : I need to write a faq
[2015-11-04 02:42:11] imapotato : Ok I'm not full retard long anymore
[2015-11-04 02:42:13] imapotato : just long
[2015-11-04 02:42:24] joequant : No one in China uses bitcoin to move money.
[2015-11-04 02:42:31] jung1 : why you change your ind?
[2015-11-04 02:42:37] joequant : There are about a dozen easier ways of moving money.
[2015-11-04 02:42:45] imapotato : because it going down a couple dollars
[2015-11-04 02:42:47] jung1 : they use it to keep moneys value
[2015-11-04 02:43:05] imapotato : I'll take my 10% profit, rather than hodling 50x long while it drops
[2015-11-04 02:43:27] imapotato : see? would have been bad to be 50x long :P
[2015-11-04 02:43:29] jung1 : worst drop ever
[2015-11-04 02:43:50] imapotato : jung1: maybe without margin
[2015-11-04 02:44:03] jung1 : imapotato: on which chart you are looking for?
[2015-11-04 02:44:15] imapotato : bitcoinwisdom
[2015-11-04 02:44:19] imapotato : huobi and bitfinex
[2015-11-04 02:44:19] jung1 : okcoin droped like 20yuan
[2015-11-04 02:44:44] SnackyCoins : we had a 250 yuan drop earlier today
[2015-11-04 02:44:47] imapotato : I'm trading XBT24H and it dropped $3 after I closed
[2015-11-04 02:49:56] wendelmaques : If I execute a "Close Market" right now on XBT24H... the Unrealized PNL is my profit?
[2015-11-04 02:50:22] simonhorlick : No, unrealised pnl is from the mark price.
[2015-11-04 02:50:24] imapotato : No
[2015-11-04 02:50:42] imapotato : Unrealized PNL is theoretical, assumes you could close at the mark price.
[2015-11-04 02:50:49] jung1 : wendelmaques: it will execute best buy/sell offer
[2015-11-04 02:55:39] Swedishnut : china yum yums Bart Simpson's Shorts
[2015-11-04 02:58:32] imapotato : I regret closing.
[2015-11-04 02:58:33] imapotato : Oh well.
[2015-11-04 02:58:59] imapotato : lol huobi 2888.88
[2015-11-04 03:00:01] imapotato : Damn, finex going hard
[2015-11-04 03:00:17] Swedishnut : everything is on rocks
[2015-11-04 03:03:52] joequant : watch for whales
[2015-11-04 03:04:32] imapotato : how
[2015-11-04 03:07:36] babybaby : we will go up
[2015-11-04 03:11:11] imapotato : how high
[2015-11-04 03:11:12] imapotato : what's the top of this rally
[2015-11-04 03:12:49] joequant : I'm calling 600
[2015-11-04 03:13:50] imapotato : This is almost identical to 2013
[2015-11-04 03:13:51] imapotato : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/1qvjfq/daily_discussion_monday_november_18_2013/cdh1sff
[2015-11-04 03:14:17] imapotato : "nothing is actually happening; chinese buying like crazy because [???], this is parabolic and unsustainable"
[2015-11-04 03:14:38] joequant : this is the advantage of living in HK.
[2015-11-04 03:14:43] joequant : Stuff is happening.
[2015-11-04 03:14:49] joequant : Look at the HKSE today.
[2015-11-04 03:15:14] imapotato : I heard they've been devaluing the currency like crazy
[2015-11-04 03:15:33] joequant : Chinese markets are cool. The entire game is rigged, you just want to know who is rigging it and why.
[2015-11-04 03:15:42] joequant : The devaulation is a side effect.
[2015-11-04 03:16:13] Swedishnut : wierd folks accepting corruption. Why not stamp it out
[2015-11-04 03:16:24] Juicers27ss : bitcoin going to hit 1500$ due to this news!!! coindesk lie to us! http://www.nasdaqtoday.com/Overstock-has-confirmed-that-Nasdaq-is-using-blockchain
[2015-11-04 03:16:34] imapotato : SHCOMP is up a good chunk recently
[2015-11-04 03:16:35] Satoshi : Juicers27ss: stfu
[2015-11-04 03:16:42] joequant : Beijing has decided 1) to print money 2) to cap property and stocks and 3) to liberalize forex
[2015-11-04 03:16:47] Satoshi : Juicers27ss: trojan
[2015-11-04 03:16:55] imapotato : It still baffles me that people think markets correcting down is a bad thing, and that printing money to "save" it is helpfull
[2015-11-04 03:17:06] joequant : It's not corrupt. China is moving to the US system where all of the corruption is level.
[2015-11-04 03:17:14] joequant : legal
[2015-11-04 03:17:38] imapotato : We live in bizarro world
[2015-11-04 03:17:51] Swedishnut : well call me old fashioned but maybe we should not leagalize corrupt and immoral leveraging of wealth
[2015-11-04 03:17:52] joequant : The Chinese government uses markets as a tool, but they aren't true believers.
[2015-11-04 03:18:15] joequant : Rich people will have power, and power will go to rich people.
[2015-11-04 03:18:28] joequant : I don't mind corruption if everyone shares.
[2015-11-04 03:18:43] joequant : And right now Beijing is making sure that I get my share of the pie.
[2015-11-04 03:18:53] Swedishnut : physical assests have merit and continued value yes but everyone has value period and can contribute and earn a living wage
[2015-11-04 03:19:22] joequant : sure.
[2015-11-04 03:19:40] joequant : And if to give everyone a living wage, you have to pay people off, I have no trouble with that.
[2015-11-04 03:19:45] joequant : It's the American way.
[2015-11-04 03:20:02] abc123 : Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely
[2015-11-04 03:20:33] joequant : One reason I don't get moral about corruption is how former US government officials make their money.
[2015-11-04 03:20:48] joequant : It turns out that the US has these strict and vague anti-corruption laws.
[2015-11-04 03:21:06] joequant : So the way you can make a ton of money is to be an anti-corruption consultant.
[2015-11-04 03:21:15] Swedishnut : yeah just as they have new "effective" laws to avoid the last financial crash in 2008
[2015-11-04 03:21:40] Swedishnut : or make corruption increasingly expensive and obsolete
[2015-11-04 03:22:00] joequant : Actually it just creates a new form of corruption.
[2015-11-04 03:22:08] abc123 : Nope just be "fake federal" federal reserve and print money out of thin air
[2015-11-04 03:22:28] joequant : Because the laws are so vague you can make tons of money being a consultant to help companies figure out the laws.
[2015-11-04 03:22:41] joequant : And it helps a lot to be a former government official that wrote the laws.
[2015-11-04 03:22:51] joequant : All money is fake.
[2015-11-04 03:23:43] Swedishnut : no money the idea is valuable. physical promises that can be duplicated are just paper promises
[2015-11-04 03:24:00] laisee : money is information, sometimes the info is fake.
[2015-11-04 03:24:11] Juicers27ss : www.nasdaqtoday.com
[2015-11-04 03:25:14] abc123 : who does the US owe 17 trillion to again ?
[2015-11-04 03:25:55] abc123 : ah the fake federal federal reserve ie private banksters
[2015-11-04 03:27:01] joequant : I trust banksters to run the economy more than I do anyone else.
[2015-11-04 03:27:18] joequant : It may be because I used to work in a big IB.
[2015-11-04 03:27:26] abc123 : http://www.amazon.com/The-Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal/dp/0912986212
[2015-11-04 03:27:31] gaoMex : Will the DPE reset at rebalance? Getting uncomfortable to see it rising on XBTZ15 and XBTTH16.
[2015-11-04 03:27:35] imapotato : $18+ trillion
[2015-11-04 03:27:48] SnackyCoins : do not click juicer's link, it's a flash exploit
[2015-11-04 03:27:49] imapotato : you're probably looking at the debt from last week XD
[2015-11-04 03:28:20] joequant : Government debt is the basis of the US dollar.
[2015-11-04 03:28:48] abc123 : yes this is a debt based economy
[2015-11-04 03:30:29] joequant : It's actually pretty cool. The US is the most successful empire in the history of the planet.
[2015-11-04 03:30:33] abc123 : do the rothschilds really need that 18 trillion to add to their 500 trillion empire?
[2015-11-04 03:31:25] joequant : The rothschilds don't run the world.
[2015-11-04 03:31:42] joequant : The people that run the world are the people that seem to run the world.
[2015-11-04 03:31:54] joequant : i.e. the president, fed chair, eu
[2015-11-04 03:32:26] 24hourz : SnackyCoins: Is it really?
[2015-11-04 03:32:26] imapotato : mmmm up up up
[2015-11-04 03:32:29] imapotato : finex did not get the memo
[2015-11-04 03:32:29] joequant : Also the fun part is that it's easier to join them than to overthrow them.
[2015-11-04 03:33:06] SnackyCoins : 24h yes
[2015-11-04 03:33:16] joequant : if you make enough noise and have enough support, they'll hand you some table scraps.
[2015-11-04 03:33:28] abc123 : joequant: true
[2015-11-04 03:33:43] joequant : The important people don't care about money. They care about power.
[2015-11-04 03:33:53] abc123 : very true
[2015-11-04 03:33:58] joequant : If you lick their boots, you make them feel good, and they'll give you some stuff.
[2015-11-04 03:34:38] 24hourz : SnackyCoins: was going to curl it to look at it but I was like meh. Was it a current exploit?
[2015-11-04 03:34:38] Swedishnut : Who do we join?
[2015-11-04 03:34:48] abc123 : so how high will this go before the next f'd up pullback ?
[2015-11-04 03:34:55] joequant : Get your kid into a big name school.
[2015-11-04 03:34:57] imapotato : $888
[2015-11-04 03:35:02] joequant : Harvard for example.
[2015-11-04 03:35:13] SnackyCoins : satoshi was the one that confirmed it
[2015-11-04 03:35:33] joequant : At that point, you'll get recruited into the power elite.
[2015-11-04 03:35:41] joequant : Or make enough noise and get elected.
[2015-11-04 03:35:45] abc123 : got screwed by the earlier pullback
[2015-11-04 03:36:33] Swedishnut : last time the pull never saw btc-e over 400. that place is like a bad place we shale leave nameless
[2015-11-04 03:36:56] joequant : you see all of the people interesting in bitcoin? it's the power elite giving an invitation to join the club.
[2015-11-04 03:37:15] imapotato : What's the issue with btc-e by the way? Hard to get USD in or hard to get BTC out?
[2015-11-04 03:37:21] imapotato : Why the discount?
[2015-11-04 03:38:39] joequant : impossible to get USD in.
[2015-11-04 03:38:47] joequant : It takes a week.
[2015-11-04 03:39:16] imapotato : ah, that would do it.
[2015-11-04 03:39:57] imapotato : wow we're actually going to do 3000Y soon
[2015-11-04 03:40:13] Murch : lmao
[2015-11-04 03:40:29] imapotato : I'm full retard tim tebow long again
[2015-11-04 03:40:32] imapotato : This is going to be a good one
[2015-11-04 03:41:16] joequant : the reason that China is higher is that it's annoying to get money out. You can do it, but it takes several hours.
[2015-11-04 03:41:31] imapotato : To get fiat out, I assume?
[2015-11-04 03:41:51] imapotato : That's basically the only reason for premiums/discounts: It's either hard to get one of the currencies in or out
[2015-11-04 03:41:52] joequant : Yes. There are a dozen ways.
[2015-11-04 03:42:03] imapotato : It the spread gets bigger during volatility, because arbitrage becomes riskier
[2015-11-04 03:42:15] joequant : But all of them take a few hours, and some of them require you to have set things up before hand.
[2015-11-04 03:42:47] SnackyCoins : thank you to whoever got me out of my weekly contracts @ 499
[2015-11-04 03:43:02] laisee : I worry BTC p/e ratio may be ahead of Bitcoin fundamentals.
[2015-11-04 03:43:21] imapotato : no way
[2015-11-04 03:43:25] joequant : e.g. your friend neighbourhood money changer can move CNY out, but you have to leave your computer and visit their office.
[2015-11-04 03:43:32] joequant : there are no fundamentals
[2015-11-04 03:43:33] imapotato : BTC fundamentals have been epic for the last two years
[2015-11-04 03:43:48] imapotato : The bear trend has been unwarranted, just kind of a thing that happened.
[2015-11-04 03:43:50] joequant : XBT is money, and money is fake.
[2015-11-04 03:44:06] imapotato : But throughout the entire thing, there has been tons of good news dumping on BTC like fuel
[2015-11-04 03:44:18] laisee : joking ... sllightly
[2015-11-04 03:44:20] imapotato : And whatever is happening in China finally acted as a spark
[2015-11-04 03:44:21] joequant : its reversing cause and effect
[2015-11-04 03:44:32] joequant : the rise triggers the good news.
[2015-11-04 03:44:46] joequant : it goes up 50% so it must be good.
[2015-11-04 03:45:15] imapotato : Yeah, there's that effect which fuels the rally once the rally starts
[2015-11-04 03:45:17] SnackyCoins : http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/anatomy-of-a-bubble.png
[2015-11-04 03:45:22] Murch : The only relevant news here is China China China
[2015-11-04 03:45:23] imapotato : "Bitcoin is up 50%? Better report on it."
[2015-11-04 03:45:25] SnackyCoins : there is only one crash cycle
[2015-11-04 03:45:30] joequant : in X months when the bubble pops, you'll have bitcoin is a scam articles.
[2015-11-04 03:45:39] imapotato : I HAVE TO HAVE MY CHINA - don trump
[2015-11-04 03:45:41] laisee : well ... don't stop believing ... in XBT pump
[2015-11-04 03:45:52] imapotato : hold on to that feeeliiiiiiing
[2015-11-04 03:45:55] imapotato : street lights
[2015-11-04 03:45:57] imapotato : bubbles
[2015-11-04 03:47:31] Swedishnut : China China China https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs Don Trumple
[2015-11-04 03:48:04] imapotato : btfd m8
[2015-11-04 03:48:53] laisee : <<epic guitar solo>>
[2015-11-04 03:49:26] imapotato : jennay!
[2015-11-04 03:49:33] imapotato : -Forest Gump
[2015-11-04 03:51:49] laisee : ETH looking a bit sick
[2015-11-04 03:52:43] dynamike23 : we hitting 3000 tonight boys?
[2015-11-04 03:53:10] Swedishnut : Have to start talking to the bus drivers in asia
[2015-11-04 03:53:24] imapotato : 3000 e z p z
[2015-11-04 03:54:03] joequant : we'll probably have a crash in the next few hours.
[2015-11-04 03:54:07] imapotato : no
[2015-11-04 03:54:09] imapotato : 3000
[2015-11-04 03:54:23] imapotato : maybe a correct when we hit 3500
[2015-11-04 03:54:27] joequant : after people get back from lunch someone will want to dump coin
[2015-11-04 03:54:28] dynamike23 : joequant: noooo don't jinx it
[2015-11-04 03:54:28] imapotato : I expect a pullback to 3400
[2015-11-04 03:54:47] Murch : lolololol
[2015-11-04 03:55:00] joequant : I expect a flash crash, and then everything will go back up.
[2015-11-04 03:55:10] joequant : So I have my whale trap ready.
[2015-11-04 03:55:15] joequant : deep limit orders
[2015-11-04 03:55:18] dynamike23 : joequant: man the harpoons
[2015-11-04 03:55:22] imapotato : put those on kraken
[2015-11-04 03:55:29] imapotato : find the thin books
[2015-11-04 03:55:35] Satoshi : i expect btc going to die lol
[2015-11-04 03:55:59] imapotato : Satoshi is that really you
[2015-11-04 03:56:12] Murch : at long last
[2015-11-04 03:56:20] Satoshi : imapotato: lol
[2015-11-04 03:56:21] dynamike23 : guide us oh great Satoshi
[2015-11-04 03:56:35] imapotato : satoshi make it go high
[2015-11-04 03:56:36] Satoshi : dynamike23: i say dump :P
[2015-11-04 03:56:37] imapotato : arize chikun
[2015-11-04 03:56:38] Murch : Cyber Jesus
[2015-11-04 03:56:42] SnackyCoins : https://i.imgur.com/iWKad22.jpg
[2015-11-04 03:57:01] Murch : You can make that happen just move some coins around bru
[2015-11-04 03:57:19] dynamike23 : you got a couple mill Satoshi
[2015-11-04 03:57:28] imapotato : MFW we cross 3000Y
[2015-11-04 03:57:29] imapotato : http://i.imgur.com/Z3AeXNR.jpg
[2015-11-04 03:57:36] Satoshi : ok ill pump now to 3500 for you
[2015-11-04 03:57:41] SnackyCoins : lol'd
[2015-11-04 03:58:48] dynamike23 : mentlegen
[2015-11-04 03:58:56] Murch : 475 let's do this shit
[2015-11-04 03:59:08] imapotato : m'entlegen
[2015-11-04 03:59:34] SnackyCoins : did i tell you guys about the p2p steam games site? where you can get the low sale prices pretty much 24/7? I dont think they take bitcoin though