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[2016-12-29 21:51:44] BitMEX_Greg : MrRGnome: We appreciate the feedback, and we have worked hard to get where we are today. As you can imagine we do take offense to when we get called frauds and scams. We are one of the only platforms where you can come talk to us about anything 24/7, and we actively try to educate our customers on our platform. We have youtube tutorials coming soon, hopefully that will help
[2016-12-29 21:51:52] BitMEX_Sam : WhiteJacket: They work similarly to trailing stops on any other exchange.
[2016-12-29 21:51:53] MrRGnome : I think you guys are doing great
[2016-12-29 21:52:00] MrRGnome : i don't know how you could make this more approachable
[2016-12-29 21:52:15] MrRGnome : I just want to defend the people ove rreacting because they didn't realize what they were doing and now their money is gone
[2016-12-29 21:52:35] MrRGnome : It's hard to understand but easy to press the buy or sell button, you know?
[2016-12-29 21:52:45] MrRGnome : It's also easy to think you understand but not at all
[2016-12-29 21:52:54] MrRGnome : I don't think those people are trolls
[2016-12-29 21:52:56] BitMEX_Sam : I won't give specifics, but that particular user did fine. There is a limit to how much hand-holding an exchange should do.
[2016-12-29 21:53:09] nOgAnOo : http://i.imgur.com/t0Pw9AN.png
[2016-12-29 21:53:20] nOgAnOo : ^ search result for okcoin woodchipper
[2016-12-29 21:54:19] BitMEX_Sam : I agree with the sentiment @MrRGnome and we're always looking for ways to make things easier and clearer, and that's our main near-term product focus
[2016-12-29 21:54:39] MrRGnome : Your accessibility is top notch. Someone is always around within an hour or two
[2016-12-29 21:54:53] rapidtrades : sup homies
[2016-12-29 21:55:03] KyllingLolsson : Yes trading is rly hard, if it would be Easy noone would be geting Richard. I Think bitmex is good
[2016-12-29 21:55:16] justinlooking : fuk u rapid u homo :P
[2016-12-29 21:55:19] MrRGnome : Bitmex is great, it's the users that suck
[2016-12-29 21:55:26] nOgAnOo : Hey rapidtrades. *hugs*
[2016-12-29 21:55:27] KyllingLolsson : Fuck this mobile autospell
[2016-12-29 21:55:27] rapidtrades : Yeah I wouldn't want to get Richard, tht sounds bad
[2016-12-29 21:55:34] emirate : they should give notice before freeze someone acc.dat really bad
[2016-12-29 21:56:03] MrRGnome : What did you do that they might freeze your account?
[2016-12-29 21:56:03] javierstone : oh hello mr. 69 prefix, nice to see u again
[2016-12-29 21:56:11] rapidtrades : who froze who's account?
[2016-12-29 21:56:18] BitMEX_Sam : That's a liquidation, not an account freeze, and the process is thoroughly detailed at https://www.bitmex.com/app/liquidation
[2016-12-29 21:56:38] MrRGnome : Yeah, it really sounds like he just has no idea. Maybe I'm wrong and just really good at being trolled
[2016-12-29 21:57:17] m3s : dont feed the troll
[2016-12-29 21:57:32] rapidtrades : where is Rado?
[2016-12-29 21:57:57] rapidtrades : that habiji guy either has the best work/life balance or keeps blowing up
[2016-12-29 21:58:02] rapidtrades : we can't tell
[2016-12-29 22:01:24] JuriFX : Yeah the GUI is really nice and also the features. I think what could help new traders is a simple entry windows where entry price (MKT/Limit) and SL and TP can be set in one go, maybe with a display for risk amount in case of a SL hit (ie. at this SL price with this size, risk: xxx XBT, similar to what oanda does)
[2016-12-29 22:02:05] WhiteJacket : YEAH! and also show LIQ pricec with the input would be nice
[2016-12-29 22:02:09] javierstone : do we think china will come to the pardee tonight?
[2016-12-29 22:03:11] rms : it's 6AM in beijing, they're up and started buying a bit
[2016-12-29 22:03:17] rapidtrades : JuriFX: I've been asking for sl/tp but still nothing
[2016-12-29 22:03:21] rms : i'm thinking we accelerate to okcoin settlement and then dump
[2016-12-29 22:03:34] javierstone : what time does okc settle?
[2016-12-29 22:03:35] rapidtrades : they can be set individually but u have to manage 3 orders not 1
[2016-12-29 22:03:58] rapidtrades : and theyre in 3 different tabs
[2016-12-29 22:04:15] kekkyojin : Do Chinese tend to buy?
[2016-12-29 22:04:19] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, open + sl/tp is in the near-term roadmap
[2016-12-29 22:04:20] JuriFX : rapidtrades: yes I have to do that manually for each position but I can live with it, but isn't easy to understand how to use TP limit and market SL to n00bs
[2016-12-29 22:04:47] rms : http://getjumbucks.com/settlement/ is the settlement countdown
[2016-12-29 22:04:50] rapidtrades : most newbs use the liq price as stop i think
[2016-12-29 22:04:57] JuriFX : Nice to hear Sam ;)
[2016-12-29 22:05:04] BitMEX_Sam : I want it to be OUO, so imagine a situation where you open 100 cont at 950 with a SL at 925 and a TP at 1000; if either the SL or TP is hit, even for a proportion of its size, the other's size will update.
[2016-12-29 22:05:05] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: Sam can you add scaled orders like finex did? are very useful.
[2016-12-29 22:05:30] BitMEX_Sam : It's an interesting idea aethlios, almost like a built-in MM-lite
[2016-12-29 22:06:12] BitMEX_Sam : I'll add a ticket for a similar feature as well.
[2016-12-29 22:06:34] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: also I would like a feature to edit amount and price range for all at once.
[2016-12-29 22:07:31] JuriFX : using liquidity price as stop is expensive, I rather would use a market stop and liq. price as an emergency stop (by using an isolated margin, this way I might lose the margin instead of the entire account)
[2016-12-29 22:07:58] JuriFX : in case of unexpected volatility
[2016-12-29 22:09:31] micmix : "unexpected volatility"? it's crypto, should be "expected volatility" ;-)
[2016-12-29 22:10:01] JuriFX : sure, I mean when your regular stop can't get filled
[2016-12-29 22:12:17] micmix : yeah, swap liquidity is decent, even stop market is fine but futures is another story
[2016-12-29 22:12:36] rapidtrades : if u don't want to lose ur whole account, don't deposit ur whole account
[2016-12-29 22:12:51] JuriFX : or use isolated margin :)
[2016-12-29 22:13:07] rapidtrades : or that
[2016-12-29 22:13:37] micmix : no, counterparty risk is still there with isolated marging
[2016-12-29 22:13:44] micmix : *margin
[2016-12-29 22:14:34] micmix : i trust bitmex but you should keep your coins in your own wallet
[2016-12-29 22:14:46] rapidtrades : its hard watching btce at $30 discount without jummping in
[2016-12-29 22:15:10] JuriFX : you're right, but I don't think anyone deposits all his bitcoins on an exchange, I hope so xD
[2016-12-29 22:15:27] rapidtrades : you'd be surprised
[2016-12-29 22:15:55] micmix : yeah, after bitfinex hack lots of people were saying "I had all my coins there"
[2016-12-29 22:16:08] rullwull : btce price includes cost of fiat deposit
[2016-12-29 22:16:28] rapidtrades : it's always tricky to deal with counter-party risk
[2016-12-29 22:16:55] rapidtrades : i had 2x-3x my risk limits on bitfinex...i just never bothered to withdraw or scale down my position
[2016-12-29 22:17:00] MrRGnome : I wish there was a good p2p token based insurance provider that could get off the ground
[2016-12-29 22:17:34] rapidtrades : it's easy to get complacent
[2016-12-29 22:18:19] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: too true.
[2016-12-29 22:18:58] javierstone : xmr is now the mystical wild card in the crypto space
[2016-12-29 22:19:27] javierstone : the side chick
[2016-12-29 22:19:45] javierstone : whats the term they use on sopranos
[2016-12-29 22:19:48] javierstone : gumar?
[2016-12-29 22:20:16] MrRGnome : xmr hasn't been moving with any kind of coherency, even an irrational coherency. I think it's being heavily manipulated
[2016-12-29 22:20:39] javierstone : MrRGnome: no its just has alot of interesting factors moving it
[2016-12-29 22:20:52] MrRGnome : Could you name some that have meaninfully changed int h alast week?
[2016-12-29 22:21:08] javierstone : i could name some from the past 1 -2 months
[2016-12-29 22:21:49] javierstone : the xmr pump started when the FBI report on DNM's came out and it showed they've been having some success tracking people
[2016-12-29 22:22:31] javierstone : which is huge from a use-case perspective for monero
[2016-12-29 22:22:36] MrRGnome : btc has been rocketing due to great press and arguably market pigs exuberance. Where is the good xmr press that has seen it rise in value relative to btc in that same time? Has there been some new feature or reason to speculate that the future is bright?
[2016-12-29 22:22:47] javierstone : MrRGnome: drugs don't need press my dude
[2016-12-29 22:23:09] MrRGnome : I love moneros ring signatures, and no drugs don't need press, but unles severyone only JUST DISCOVERED drugs and monero it doesn't make sense
[2016-12-29 22:23:24] javierstone : FBI report is huge
[2016-12-29 22:23:29] javierstone : and drug dealers don't talk
[2016-12-29 22:23:37] javierstone : look at the dates
[2016-12-29 22:23:40] javierstone : they line up perfectly
[2016-12-29 22:24:00] Naloxone : ETC is pumping
[2016-12-29 22:24:02] javierstone : and if you imagine yourself as a darknet dealer you read that report and you think holy shit i can't keep using bitcoin
[2016-12-29 22:24:22] javierstone : and alphabay already implemented it in teh summer
[2016-12-29 22:24:34] MrRGnome : If I was a dark net dealer I'd have been on board the xmr train months and months ago, they are some of the best informed users in the spae
[2016-12-29 22:24:45] javierstone : https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/a-primer-on-darknet-marketplaces
[2016-12-29 22:24:59] javierstone : MrRGnome: ya look at the chart nov 1
[2016-12-29 22:25:06] MrRGnome : I don't view the FBI report as being so significant or revealing new information, or addinging the necessary exposure to get the movement we have been getting on xmr despite btc price
[2016-12-29 22:25:20] javierstone : so its that
[2016-12-29 22:25:27] javierstone : and bitfinex adding USDT as tether
[2016-12-29 22:25:39] javierstone : and they also released the GUI for the wllet fianlly
[2016-12-29 22:25:48] nOgAnOo : Sam do you have a market making bot, my good sir? Could you link it please?
[2016-12-29 22:26:32] javierstone : MrRGnome: but also i think people don't realize how much drugs and the selling of them influecnes so much of our world and economy
[2016-12-29 22:26:59] BitMEX_Greg : nOgAnOo: We have a sample bot here: https://github.com/BitMEX/sample-market-maker
[2016-12-29 22:27:11] javierstone : bitfinex adding the USDT tether for monero is huge for the bitcoin pumps
[2016-12-29 22:27:11] MrRGnome : I agree drugs is a huge market, I disagree anything happened to significantly influence users to sue something they already were using in droves.
[2016-12-29 22:27:24] javierstone : ok well maybe you'll figure it out sometime my dude
[2016-12-29 22:27:24] nOgAnOo : Thank you Sam, I'm gonna make 50,000 dollars.
[2016-12-29 22:27:33] MrRGnome : If your suspicions are correct I would expect to see evidence of a proportional volume boom int he xmr darknet markets
[2016-12-29 22:28:00] javierstone : u gotta see the invisible sometime
[2016-12-29 22:28:27] MrRGnome : is there any indication such an influx of new users is occurring? Are darknet forums seeing a percentage increase in subscribers?
[2016-12-29 22:28:50] MrRGnome : They just aren't. These justifications, a new GUI a new fbi report, they are very pumpy
[2016-12-29 22:29:06] nOgAnOo : Darknet just seen an increase in noganoo orders, I know that much. :)
[2016-12-29 22:29:21] nOgAnOo : I just used alphabay for the first time since silk road.
[2016-12-29 22:29:27] javierstone : MrRGnome: they just added monero only a few months ago
[2016-12-29 22:29:34] javierstone : adoption takes a while bro
[2016-12-29 22:29:42] javierstone : and the FBI report is huge, have u read it?
[2016-12-29 22:29:44] MrRGnome : I know, but it was months ago. Adding the word "just" doesn't explain the timing
[2016-12-29 22:30:10] javierstone : yo listen u lil fuking millenial life doesn't run at the speed at which u jerk off to free porn on intenret time
[2016-12-29 22:30:27] nOgAnOo : There was an herb dealer on there that sold over 2,500 oz of a single strain. And that is not including their Quarter Pound orders. This is over 400,000 dollars alone.
[2016-12-29 22:30:33] nOgAnOo : Bud Central
[2016-12-29 22:31:00] MrRGnome : javierstone: roffle
[2016-12-29 22:31:09] javierstone : MrRGnome: of course osme of its rise is speculation but having a real use case cycle like alpha bay isn't somehting to scoff at
[2016-12-29 22:31:31] javierstone : for a majority of BTC's life, that same use case is waht led to its first round of adoptions
[2016-12-29 22:31:34] MrRGnome : I don't scoff, i didn't scoff when it happened and I think xmr has a very valid use case
[2016-12-29 22:31:38] nOgAnOo : Silk Road was/is/will always be the heart of Bitcoin
[2016-12-29 22:31:43] MrRGnome : I also think that the price is manipulated to all shit
[2016-12-29 22:31:51] nOgAnOo : Willie 2.0
[2016-12-29 22:31:52] javierstone : then short it
[2016-12-29 22:32:05] MrRGnome : Why would I short something when I think the price is being manipulated?
[2016-12-29 22:32:13] nOgAnOo : Right, join the scam and profit
[2016-12-29 22:32:18] nOgAnOo : Like Steemit
[2016-12-29 22:33:07] MrRGnome : Pretty much, yeah.
[2016-12-29 22:33:18] MrRGnome : Except xmr isn't a scam, has solid tech
[2016-12-29 22:33:27] nOgAnOo : I think we're going back to 800 soon
[2016-12-29 22:33:41] nOgAnOo : Yes I've always loved Monero.. was trading when it was around 100k
[2016-12-29 22:34:20] MikeHunt : is there any benefit to holding a loosing leveraged position?
[2016-12-29 22:34:35] MrRGnome : making the funding rate if it is going your way @MikeHunt
[2016-12-29 22:34:46] MrRGnome : anticipating a change in direction
[2016-12-29 22:35:05] Angelika : that usually doesn't end up well
[2016-12-29 22:35:07] MrRGnome : wanting to not be able to sleep at night
[2016-12-29 22:35:43] rapidtrades : Angelika: sup
[2016-12-29 22:35:50] MrRGnome : In fact, people who have sleeping disorders where they sleep too much should trade btc, the anxiety will solve all their problems and they will never sleep soundly again
[2016-12-29 22:35:52] Angelika : hey rapidtrades
[2016-12-29 22:36:12] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: yeh ive found that gone from 9hrs sleep to 6
[2016-12-29 22:36:16] Angelika : did some more tweaks on the MM bot code
[2016-12-29 22:36:24] rapidtrades : yeah my sleep is all messed up past few weeks
[2016-12-29 22:36:29] nOgAnOo : What is the MM bot?
[2016-12-29 22:36:33] rapidtrades : kinda coincides with this 3 month bull run i guess
[2016-12-29 22:36:42] Angelika : it's so hard to balance between spread and moving the orders
[2016-12-29 22:36:44] MrRGnome : same
[2016-12-29 22:37:00] rapidtrades : Angelika: what do u mean?
[2016-12-29 22:37:15] MrRGnome : it's hard to get all of the days work done and also time sensitive trading, i find myself working more and more into the night because I was trading in the day
[2016-12-29 22:37:19] Angelika : if spread is to big very few orders are executed
[2016-12-29 22:37:25] nOgAnOo : Angelika would you join my discord server please so we can work on the bot together? http://discord.cyberfield.tech
[2016-12-29 22:37:34] Angelika : if you reduce spread you could end up losing on a lot of the orders
[2016-12-29 22:37:35] rapidtrades : Angelika: ah i see
[2016-12-29 22:37:57] Angelika : so there is a balance between how big the spread is and when you amend the orders when price moves
[2016-12-29 22:38:06] javierstone : bots are so crazy
[2016-12-29 22:38:15] javierstone : i tried a few from cryptowatch a while back
[2016-12-29 22:38:28] Angelika : nOgAnOo: I don't know you
[2016-12-29 22:38:30] nOgAnOo : I used to manually change my orders on coinedup and cryptorush back in the day.
[2016-12-29 22:38:34] Angelika : are you a developer?
[2016-12-29 22:38:54] nOgAnOo : I am old school altcoin trader, just got into forex a month ago and now onto bitcoin
[2016-12-29 22:39:01] nOgAnOo : made 1500% in 2 days last week
[2016-12-29 22:39:08] nOgAnOo : Now trying to get a bot up
[2016-12-29 22:39:15] MrRGnome : roffle great pitch
[2016-12-29 22:39:28] BTCDJS : Old school lol
[2016-12-29 22:39:28] Angelika : nOgAnOo: what kind of bot?
[2016-12-29 22:39:40] nOgAnOo : Sam just linked me his source
[2016-12-29 22:39:47] Angelika : right
[2016-12-29 22:39:48] nOgAnOo : A few minutes before you got on
[2016-12-29 22:39:54] nOgAnOo : Is that the one you are using?
[2016-12-29 22:39:54] Angelika : that is the code I started with
[2016-12-29 22:39:56] MrRGnome : Old school altcoins. But not bitcoin. LTC for LYFE
[2016-12-29 22:40:06] micmix : lol, everyone is going to be mm now :smile:
[2016-12-29 22:40:14] nOgAnOo : We will all be RICH
[2016-12-29 22:40:18] Angelika : micmix: don't worry
[2016-12-29 22:40:20] MrRGnome : micmix: I bet you are just laughing your ass off
[2016-12-29 22:40:23] Angelika : most wouldn't make it
[2016-12-29 22:40:33] micmix : MrRGnome: yeah
[2016-12-29 22:40:38] rapidtrades : Angelika: are u down now?
[2016-12-29 22:40:38] MrRGnome : me too.
[2016-12-29 22:40:45] MrRGnome : like really funny.
[2016-12-29 22:40:56] Angelika : rapidtrades: what do you mean?
[2016-12-29 22:41:09] rapidtrades : is the bot down money? cos why else would u modify it
[2016-12-29 22:41:20] Angelika : no, it's still up
[2016-12-29 22:41:27] rapidtrades : $3,5?
[2016-12-29 22:41:44] Angelika : modifying it because it needs to be most efficient
[2016-12-29 22:42:03] micmix : Angelika: forgot to ask, are you on swap?
[2016-12-29 22:42:05] Angelika : I noticed some problems even though it was making money
[2016-12-29 22:42:12] Angelika : yes micmix
[2016-12-29 22:42:15] rapidtrades : problems?
[2016-12-29 22:42:16] micmix : cool
[2016-12-29 22:42:18] Angelika : I am on the best ask right now
[2016-12-29 22:42:19] Angelika : :-)
[2016-12-29 22:42:47] Angelika : rapidtrades: like I was moving the order to fast and not giving it a chance to execute
[2016-12-29 22:43:04] Angelika : so it will eventually execute at a better price if the direction was in my favour
[2016-12-29 22:43:18] Angelika : however if it wasn't it will execute at a loss
[2016-12-29 22:43:42] rapidtrades : ok
[2016-12-29 22:43:49] Angelika : so it's better to eliminate the position fast even if you make a small profit
[2016-12-29 22:43:53] Angelika : that is what I updated
[2016-12-29 22:44:09] rapidtrades : micmix: do u concur?
[2016-12-29 22:44:29] micmix : the correct answer is "it depends"
[2016-12-29 22:44:32] Angelika : micmix: I noticed a couple of other new MMs
[2016-12-29 22:44:33] MrRGnome : =D yeah micmix do you concur?
[2016-12-29 22:44:55] MikeHunt : if you shorted with leverage at 950 would u hold now?
[2016-12-29 22:44:59] Angelika : one annoying that quotes 5000
[2016-12-29 22:45:11] rapidtrades : that smells like sleger
[2016-12-29 22:45:27] micmix : I doubt it
[2016-12-29 22:45:32] Angelika : micmix: what is your size?
[2016-12-29 22:45:39] rapidtrades : 5k loool
[2016-12-29 22:45:50] micmix : variable size
[2016-12-29 22:46:00] MrRGnome : I love this conversation.
[2016-12-29 22:46:30] Angelika : micmix: so you change even the base order size?
[2016-12-29 22:46:39] micmix : yep
[2016-12-29 22:46:39] MrRGnome : don't give them any more help, vague as it is
[2016-12-29 22:46:43] MrRGnome : let them learnt he hard way
[2016-12-29 22:47:04] micmix : I'm just having fun here
[2016-12-29 22:47:08] MrRGnome : I can tell
[2016-12-29 22:47:13] Angelika : MrRGnome: are you a MM?
[2016-12-29 22:47:20] MrRGnome : nah I trade trends
[2016-12-29 22:47:29] rapidtrades : then stay out of this
[2016-12-29 22:47:32] MrRGnome : but I know enough about it to enjoy this conversation
[2016-12-29 22:47:34] Angelika : talking about it and writing the code are two different things
[2016-12-29 22:47:57] Angelika : I can tell even if you give all concepts to most people they will not be able to code a good bot
[2016-12-29 22:48:06] MrRGnome : I'm not even in it, just yelling from the peanut gallery and enjoying myself
[2016-12-29 22:48:42] Angelika : micmix: my biggest problem is change in volatility
[2016-12-29 22:48:45] micmix : Angelika: I can link you a couple of papers but it's phd level math
[2016-12-29 22:48:53] Angelika : please
[2016-12-29 22:49:00] rapidtrades : what the actual f*ck
[2016-12-29 22:49:09] rapidtrades : i have to learn math to do this shit now?
[2016-12-29 22:49:14] MrRGnome : hahaha
[2016-12-29 22:49:19] MrRGnome : oh my sides
[2016-12-29 22:49:22] rapidtrades : I'm not even done with programming yet
[2016-12-29 22:49:22] JuriFX : bulls having some trouble...
[2016-12-29 22:49:30] Angelika : actually some complex math if you want to be successful
[2016-12-29 22:49:56] MoneySeeMoneyDo : should be a good day to short.
[2016-12-29 22:50:11] rapidtrades : I'm already successful, im just looking to diversify
[2016-12-29 22:50:40] justinlooking : automate all the things
[2016-12-29 22:50:43] Angelika : micmix: I know what you said about volatility, but is it possible to change the spread dynamically based on the change in the spread of everyone else
[2016-12-29 22:50:51] nOgAnOo : MrGnome, you should be more helpful of noobs. It's fresh money coming into the exchange.
[2016-12-29 22:51:06] MrRGnome : hey if there is one thing I am it's super helpful to nubs
[2016-12-29 22:51:06] Angelika : this way I don't care about external sources and only adjust based on what others are doing :-)
[2016-12-29 22:51:42] nOgAnOo : Ok guys, it's BitMex group hug time, who's in?
[2016-12-29 22:51:56] MrRGnome : I'm in but only if I get to eb next to rapidtrades
[2016-12-29 22:52:08] MrRGnome : I want to feel his warm embrace
[2016-12-29 22:52:10] justinlooking : rado bbands for volatility and rsi for velocity
[2016-12-29 22:52:16] rapidtrades : Angelika: looks like ur trying to make changes too quickly, the bot is not properly tested yet
[2016-12-29 22:52:33] micmix : Angelika: it's possible, doesn;t mean it's always a good idea
[2016-12-29 22:52:40] Angelika : rapidtrades: that's what my Wife said
[2016-12-29 22:52:54] Angelika : I am not very patient
[2016-12-29 22:53:10] Angelika : 1 day watching it is enough for me to know it can be better
[2016-12-29 22:53:22] micmix : google "high frequency market making" by carmona and webster
[2016-12-29 22:53:35] Angelika : thanks micmix
[2016-12-29 22:53:36] JuriFX : LOL “I fear the day technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots.” Albert Einstein
[2016-12-29 22:54:58] rapidtrades : micmix: are these guys academics or traders?
[2016-12-29 22:55:01] Angelika : micmix: Lockhadge is always in front of me
[2016-12-29 22:55:14] Angelika : but because my size is very small it doesn't matter much
[2016-12-29 22:55:20] micmix : Angelika: "a learning market-maker in the Glosten-Milgrom model" by Sanmay Das for a different approach
[2016-12-29 22:55:29] nOgAnOo : Rapidtrades, I'm going to do my best to learn the math.
[2016-12-29 22:55:42] micmix : rapidtrades: academics of course, traders don't publish papers
[2016-12-29 22:55:43] Angelika : micmix: cool, will check them out
[2016-12-29 22:56:16] rapidtrades : micmix: some traders do
[2016-12-29 22:56:32] nOgAnOo : Thanks for the resources, micmix
[2016-12-29 22:57:11] BitMEX_Greg : micmix: :+1: the GM model was revolutionary
[2016-12-29 22:58:43] micmix : and I hope you all read the classic "Options, futures and other derivatives" by Hull before coming here to trade derivatives ;-)
[2016-12-29 22:59:01] nOgAnOo : I can't wait to be able to understand this math. I love to learn.
[2016-12-29 22:59:01] rapidtrades : that's really dry
[2016-12-29 22:59:25] rapidtrades : hard to relate material if ur trading crypto
[2016-12-29 22:59:35] BitMEX_Greg : I have a really good thesis on Market Making too I did a number of years back if you are interested: https://ses.library.usyd.edu.au/handle/2123/4076
[2016-12-29 22:59:53] micmix : BitMEX_Greg: thanks Greg, will read
[2016-12-29 22:59:57] Angelika : micmix: I started making money when I started using stop orders
[2016-12-29 23:00:31] Angelika : of course many other things are important
[2016-12-29 23:00:31] justinlooking : rado: subtract own activeorders from orderbook, it gets very racy but cannot think of a better way
[2016-12-29 23:01:33] micmix : BitMEX_Greg: The University of Sydney :+1:
[2016-12-29 23:01:47] rapidtrades : Angelika: u mean the bot? or u speaking in general
[2016-12-29 23:02:03] BitMEX_Greg : micmix: :)
[2016-12-29 23:02:10] Angelika : in general rapidtrades
[2016-12-29 23:02:26] BitMEX_Greg : micmix: :smiley: rather
[2016-12-29 23:02:27] Angelika : before I started trading crypto futures
[2016-12-29 23:02:43] Angelika : BitMEX_Greg: where are you located now?
[2016-12-29 23:02:49] BitMEX_Greg : in New York now
[2016-12-29 23:03:00] Angelika : I will be in Sydney end of February
[2016-12-29 23:03:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 15000 @ 1022.96
[2016-12-29 23:03:44] sleger : Angelika: yeah very close to new york, thanks for letting him know
[2016-12-29 23:03:59] Angelika : sleger: lol
[2016-12-29 23:04:01] BitMEX_Greg : haha
[2016-12-29 23:04:08] BitMEX_Greg : Angelika: No worries, make sure you try Oporto in Sydney
[2016-12-29 23:04:25] rapidtrades : sleger: mcmix gave us all ur secrets
[2016-12-29 23:04:34] Angelika : as soon as someone post something dumb sleger appears out of nowhere
[2016-12-29 23:04:42] mjones : Damn it bounced hard
[2016-12-29 23:04:57] Angelika : BitMEX_Greg: will do
[2016-12-29 23:05:22] JuriFX : go bulls!!!!!
[2016-12-29 23:05:27] JuriFX : -.-
[2016-12-29 23:05:34] rapidtrades : 1k tonight!
[2016-12-29 23:05:35] nOgAnOo : Woohoo go Bitcorn
[2016-12-29 23:05:37] mjones : $60 premium again
[2016-12-29 23:06:00] mjones : Ath xbth17 open contracts
[2016-12-29 23:06:06] mjones : Dip bought hard
[2016-12-29 23:06:15] rapidtrades : they are clearly wiaitng for okc settlement
[2016-12-29 23:06:22] rapidtrades : i see two options here
[2016-12-29 23:06:27] rapidtrades : 1. we rally pre-settlement
[2016-12-29 23:06:37] rapidtrades : 2. we rally post-settlement
[2016-12-29 23:06:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 383 @ 963.65
[2016-12-29 23:06:58] sleger : 2 option ones ?
[2016-12-29 23:07:06] rapidtrades : yeah it's a bug
[2016-12-29 23:07:09] sleger : what's option 3 ?
[2016-12-29 23:07:14] sleger : oh a "bug"
[2016-12-29 23:07:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 75 @ 964.52
[2016-12-29 23:07:25] sleger : a bug your mom made ?
[2016-12-29 23:07:25] Angelika : BitMEX_Greg: this one?http://www.oporto.com.au/locations/sydney-cbd-sydney-central-plaza/
[2016-12-29 23:07:50] BTCDJS : sleger: why you gotta bring Rapids mom into this?
[2016-12-29 23:08:06] sleger : revenge
[2016-12-29 23:08:07] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah thats the one, they have multiple locations all over Sydney. It started out next to Bondi beach, so naturally the most famous burger is the Bondi burger
[2016-12-29 23:08:12] BTCDJS : Disrespectful
[2016-12-29 23:08:25] Angelika : cool
[2016-12-29 23:08:53] MrRGnome : BTCDJS: disrespecting rapidtrades is the only way to keep him under control, otherwise he needs a temp ban to cool off in the corner.
[2016-12-29 23:09:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 70001 @ 965.72 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-29 23:09:59] javierstone : wow
[2016-12-29 23:10:33] BTCDJS : MrRGnome: why does he need to be kept under control? You scared of him?
[2016-12-29 23:11:19] MrRGnome : Nah, in reality he's just a very egregious troll himself and so he gets it about as well as he dishes it.
[2016-12-29 23:11:22] justinlooking : i bet that was emirate again lol
[2016-12-29 23:11:40] sleger : did Tetsuo get rekt too ?
[2016-12-29 23:11:44] sleger : like prince habibi
[2016-12-29 23:12:01] rapidtrades : idk i haven't seen Tetsuo here lately
[2016-12-29 23:12:30] BTCDJS : 70k? Jeez
[2016-12-29 23:13:00] javierstone : volume is picking up again
[2016-12-29 23:13:05] javierstone : better than yesterday
[2016-12-29 23:13:15] BTCDJS : these REKT notifications should add the leverage size so we can have a chuckle
[2016-12-29 23:13:36] Angelika : rapidtrades: I think Tetsuo is now Mr.T
[2016-12-29 23:13:40] Angelika : or whatever his nick was
[2016-12-29 23:13:50] Angelika : same dark and gloomy comments
[2016-12-29 23:14:01] nOgAnOo : OH NO
[2016-12-29 23:16:43] MikeHunt : ive learnt a lesson here, bitmex is always ahead of the chinese exchanges
[2016-12-29 23:16:58] javierstone : MikeHunt: ^
[2016-12-29 23:17:04] javierstone : mikehunt yer killing it still
[2016-12-29 23:17:06] MikeHunt : i got raped on a 950 short cuz of that
[2016-12-29 23:17:17] MikeHunt : thought i was shorting huobi in time, big mistake :/
[2016-12-29 23:18:18] Rado : back to the manual trading account as things are getting interesting
[2016-12-29 23:19:09] narnarfromnarnia : its like these traders have data on what liq prices are
[2016-12-29 23:19:14] narnarfromnarnia : for people on specific margins
[2016-12-29 23:19:20] narnarfromnarnia : wtf
[2016-12-29 23:19:24] Angelika : narnarfromnarnia: they don't
[2016-12-29 23:19:29] Headroom : what a good idea to short btc anyway
[2016-12-29 23:19:33] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: bitmex index is mixed 0kcoin Bitstamp and bitfinex
[2016-12-29 23:19:34] Angelika : it only seem to you that way
[2016-12-29 23:19:48] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: that explains it then
[2016-12-29 23:19:55] DangerandPlay : getting raped by these perpetual swap lending fees :(
[2016-12-29 23:22:32] sleger : fees are negative
[2016-12-29 23:22:42] sleger : you get paid to long bitcoin
[2016-12-29 23:22:46] sleger : retarded
[2016-12-29 23:22:49] freefall : he is short
[2016-12-29 23:23:17] sleger : well then he earned a lot before so he shouldnt complain
[2016-12-29 23:23:37] freefall : people are always complaining when loosing money
[2016-12-29 23:23:49] freefall : me either
[2016-12-29 23:24:50] sleger : i closed most of my short in swap
[2016-12-29 23:25:00] sleger : XBTUSD -194342 is what i have left
[2016-12-29 23:25:20] freefall : your rich guy then ;)
[2016-12-29 23:25:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4690 @ 966.84
[2016-12-29 23:25:26] MikeHunt : so if i buy contracts i get paid?
[2016-12-29 23:25:32] narnarfromnarnia : alright im done
[2016-12-29 23:25:36] sleger : MikeHunt: you're a genius arent you ?
[2016-12-29 23:25:38] narnarfromnarnia : fuck
[2016-12-29 23:25:48] freefall : depends
[2016-12-29 23:25:49] sleger : narnarfromnarnia: dont short bitcoin dont
[2016-12-29 23:25:54] MikeHunt : sleger: im still pretty new here, no need to be so harsh...
[2016-12-29 23:26:05] freefall : you better go long in btc :D
[2016-12-29 23:26:07] sleger : yet everyone seems to hate you
[2016-12-29 23:26:17] freefall : there will be the day when cash gets prohobited
[2016-12-29 23:26:32] MikeHunt : sleger: ive noticed the ppl that hate me tend to have the most vulgar language around here
[2016-12-29 23:26:33] freefall : u want to be prepared then
[2016-12-29 23:26:36] Rado : MikeHunt: he has to be harsh, otherwise you don't learn anything
[2016-12-29 23:26:40] Rado : ;-)
[2016-12-29 23:26:51] freefall : thats traders language i guess xDD
[2016-12-29 23:27:01] sleger : MikeHunt: maybe that's the reaction you create in people
[2016-12-29 23:27:22] javierstone : sleger: therapist child
[2016-12-29 23:27:25] MikeHunt : sleger: ive noticed only evil people tend to show it
[2016-12-29 23:28:06] sleger : MikeHunt: even harry potter got upset when he faced Voldemort
[2016-12-29 23:28:32] china : just playing
[2016-12-29 23:28:32] MikeHunt : sleger: so did a few others when i said 7k would be touch n drop, and then it happened
[2016-12-29 23:28:33] javierstone : MikeHunt: tell us about yourself
[2016-12-29 23:28:35] javierstone : you live in the UK
[2016-12-29 23:28:39] javierstone : what else?
[2016-12-29 23:28:41] MikeHunt : javierstone: so do you?
[2016-12-29 23:28:50] javierstone : MikeHunt: nope
[2016-12-29 23:28:59] MikeHunt : javierstone: french?
[2016-12-29 23:29:06] javierstone : nah
[2016-12-29 23:29:10] sleger : MikeHunt: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-28/4-out-5-middle-aged-brits-are-fat-lazy-drunks-new-study-finds
[2016-12-29 23:29:13] MikeHunt : javierstone: where?
[2016-12-29 23:29:20] javierstone : MikeHunt: don't worry bout it
[2016-12-29 23:29:28] freefall : german?
[2016-12-29 23:29:32] sleger : javier is spanish not french
[2016-12-29 23:29:49] MikeHunt : yeh his name is but i didnt want to assume
[2016-12-29 23:29:54] javierstone : ahahahha
[2016-12-29 23:29:59] sleger : yet you assumed he was french
[2016-12-29 23:30:00] javierstone : yer such a knob its amazing
[2016-12-29 23:30:08] MikeHunt : being french would have been more convenient
[2016-12-29 23:30:14] javierstone : its the fuking internet mike relax
[2016-12-29 23:30:22] javierstone : i'm a stranger from the internet u can assume whatever u want
[2016-12-29 23:30:25] Headroom : I still have a bigger than you all :>
[2016-12-29 23:30:27] sleger : he's just a fat lazy drunk brit
[2016-12-29 23:30:51] MikeHunt : sleger you from UK?
[2016-12-29 23:30:53] justinlooking : u rang
[2016-12-29 23:30:57] justinlooking : oh
[2016-12-29 23:31:43] sleger : MikeHunt: im french
[2016-12-29 23:32:08] rapidtrades : sleger: settle down number two
[2016-12-29 23:32:17] MikeHunt : sleger: im beginning to a see pattern here...
[2016-12-29 23:32:28] javierstone : ^therapist child
[2016-12-29 23:32:36] MikeHunt : euros are mad at us for brexit
[2016-12-29 23:32:38] javierstone : UR SUCH A MOTHERFUKN SON OF A THERAPIST
[2016-12-29 23:32:53] Headroom : "coconut bananas"
[2016-12-29 23:33:16] china : my lawyers Mom was a therapist. He turned out alright
[2016-12-29 23:33:22] sleger : rapidtrades: whatsup watson
[2016-12-29 23:34:44] Headroom : do you realise it is starting to be ridiculous ? and ? what next ? french are so bad ? UK are lazy ? french bashing was created by some politics a long time ago to argument something then people used it with no sens, UK lazy people people ? ok all recent EU studies give this impression but they are cool people, what about who still has the biggest thing in his pant ? ME :>
[2016-12-29 23:34:53] sleger : europe should invade uk and finish it with the inbred fat lazy drunk brits
[2016-12-29 23:34:54] Headroom : and now, I'm running naked eating an apple
[2016-12-29 23:36:01] Ben : sleger: be prepared for a fight
[2016-12-29 23:36:44] MikeHunt : they can hate all they want, we are deleveraged from the EU, its going to be real rough for them in the future
[2016-12-29 23:36:58] MikeHunt : Turkey is still holding 3million migrants it may send EU's way
[2016-12-29 23:37:07] MikeHunt : when the banks fail and the welfare stops
[2016-12-29 23:37:10] MikeHunt : then it will be carnage
[2016-12-29 23:37:14] MikeHunt : UK will shut the doors
[2016-12-29 23:37:23] MikeHunt : you'll all be left to rot in liberal hell
[2016-12-29 23:37:36] nOgAnOo : Happy New years all
[2016-12-29 23:37:48] javierstone : we're looking inside the dark heart of brittish stupity right here
[2016-12-29 23:37:49] MoneySeeMoneyDo : sips tea
[2016-12-29 23:38:01] MikeHunt : javierstone: stupid? you like your isis migrants?
[2016-12-29 23:38:06] MikeHunt : keep em
[2016-12-29 23:38:06] Headroom : you need to eat more apples @MikeHunt
[2016-12-29 23:38:14] javierstone : MikeHunt: thats not the question
[2016-12-29 23:38:20] Headroom : and run naked? I don't care where until it works
[2016-12-29 23:38:21] nOgAnOo : God Bless Donald Trump!
[2016-12-29 23:38:34] MikeHunt : Headroom: you a continental as well?
[2016-12-29 23:38:41] MoneySeeMoneyDo : guys its been fun but i have some charts to read
[2016-12-29 23:38:46] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: yeh i bet on him, won big, same with brexit
[2016-12-29 23:38:56] Headroom : no but I don't understand the point to know it
[2016-12-29 23:39:03] MikeHunt : oh the anger after brexit, it was fun to tease the remainians
[2016-12-29 23:39:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 130000 @ 967.53 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-12-29 23:39:14] nOgAnOo : Trump is my President
[2016-12-29 23:39:24] nOgAnOo : 130000!!!!
[2016-12-29 23:39:35] nOgAnOo : Long on rope.
[2016-12-29 23:39:35] javierstone : wow
[2016-12-29 23:39:51] ett1 : trump will never dump
[2016-12-29 23:40:04] ett1 : h loves china
[2016-12-29 23:40:11] Naloxone : godness
[2016-12-29 23:40:20] MikeHunt : china needs democracy like russia got
[2016-12-29 23:40:30] nOgAnOo : Trump seems to be working closely with China, Russia and Mexico
[2016-12-29 23:40:58] MikeHunt : if trump can mend relations with russia it can prevent china warring as it collapses
[2016-12-29 23:41:06] nOgAnOo : I am still bursting with joy over his election, I even quit drinking alcohol.
[2016-12-29 23:41:34] javierstone : this chat is a mindfuk
[2016-12-29 23:41:45] Cryptonary : nOgAnOo: me 2 but just because clinton didnt win
[2016-12-29 23:41:53] nOgAnOo : h0h0!
[2016-12-29 23:42:13] nOgAnOo : I started a new account on Steemit called "real-news"
[2016-12-29 23:42:36] nOgAnOo : Time to go short guys
[2016-12-29 23:42:48] nOgAnOo : low leverage.. we're not going past 1060 are we?
[2016-12-29 23:43:04] nOgAnOo : i mean 1060 USD on teh Swap
[2016-12-29 23:43:36] nOgAnOo : Or is this the moon we have all been awaiting. The second coming of Satoshi..
[2016-12-29 23:44:33] justinlooking : thy will be rekt
[2016-12-29 23:45:15] javierstone : nOgAnOo: don't see muhc of a difference between 1001 adn 1060 tbh
[2016-12-29 23:45:29] javierstone : in terms of liquidity price
[2016-12-29 23:46:00] Headroom : casino style
[2016-12-29 23:54:30] PARAFFIN : haha why didnt i buy the dip -.-
[2016-12-29 23:54:35] BTCDJS : [23:39] REKT: Liquidated short on XBTUSD: buy 130000 @ 967.53 EPIC REKT ? ? ?
[2016-12-29 23:54:41] BTCDJS : Wtf?
[2016-12-29 23:54:49] nOgAnOo : Poor chap
[2016-12-29 23:55:16] BTCDJS : anyone got a light?
[2016-12-29 23:55:37] PARAFFIN : yes me
[2016-12-29 23:56:26] BTCDJS : ?
[2016-12-29 23:56:52] MikeHunt : all these rekts make my losses look like peanuts
[2016-12-29 23:56:56] javierstone : the sell book is crazy
[2016-12-29 23:57:06] PARAFFIN : yee
[2016-12-29 23:57:34] PARAFFIN : sb ddos
[2016-12-29 23:58:23] nOgAnOo : Anyone wanna sell 200 into the top of the March 31st for me?
[2016-12-29 23:58:31] ett1 : hi
[2016-12-29 23:58:37] nOgAnOo : I will trade you an eternal friendship contract.
[2016-12-29 23:58:43] rullwull : nice spike in forex, my GU longs are f....ng profitable
[2016-12-29 23:59:36] rullwull : made more btc in one GU trade than the monthly crypto rally
[2016-12-29 23:59:43] ett1 : nOgAnOo: got some love at a discount
[2016-12-29 23:59:57] javierstone : rullwull: whats GU?
[2016-12-30 00:00:00] anduck : gu?
[2016-12-30 00:00:08] rullwull : gpbusd
[2016-12-30 00:00:30] rullwull : had 1/500 leverage
[2016-12-30 00:01:00] BTCDJS : Simplefx?
[2016-12-30 00:01:08] rullwull : over 75 btc profit!!!
[2016-12-30 00:01:16] rullwull : yes, simplefx
[2016-12-30 00:01:30] BTCDJS : Some boy
[2016-12-30 00:02:08] ett1 : rullwull: nice. do they pay out
[2016-12-30 00:02:32] rullwull : always
[2016-12-30 00:02:37] BTCDJS : rullwull: https://twitter.com/cryptorca/status/814621740940791808
[2016-12-30 00:02:47] BTCDJS : Adam and Eve
[2016-12-30 00:02:55] BTCDJS : get on it
[2016-12-30 00:03:46] ett1 : rullwull: cool. i might try it
[2016-12-30 00:04:22] zach719 : rullwull: what is simplefx?
[2016-12-30 00:05:12] BTCDJS : zach719: it's an exchange where you can get rekt quicker than here with 500x
[2016-12-30 00:05:30] rullwull : zach719: fx broker where u can trade forex with crypto
[2016-12-30 00:06:02] PARAFFIN : is simplefx good?
[2016-12-30 00:06:18] rullwull : its not an exchange, its broker
[2016-12-30 00:06:32] zach719 : rullwull: what makes it better than bitmex?
[2016-12-30 00:06:33] rullwull : yes, very good @PARAFFIN
[2016-12-30 00:06:45] zach719 : BTCDJS: lmao
[2016-12-30 00:07:38] rullwull : zach719: did u ever trade fx? its different, there is no order book, there is a spread
[2016-12-30 00:07:48] mjones : etc up 30% woohoo