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[2016-12-29 05:15:56] mjones : Probably none
[2016-12-29 05:16:46] mjones : But just means new money to flow into xbth17
[2016-12-29 05:16:59] mjones : From old quarterly
[2016-12-29 05:17:13] shery : mjones: oh fine
[2016-12-29 05:17:14] raisetheblade : who wears short shorts?
[2016-12-29 05:17:30] l3f : mjones: if I knew everyone will buy H17 then I'd pre buy?
[2016-12-29 05:17:34] l3f : so it would be priced in
[2016-12-29 05:18:30] mjones : But then new money enters and then premium goes up
[2016-12-29 05:18:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 60 @ 0.008210
[2016-12-29 05:19:03] mjones : The dumps have killed the premium a bit though. Need new pump
[2016-12-29 05:19:18] shery : just a small green candle and longers got excited
[2016-12-29 05:19:23] javierstone : we're ready
[2016-12-29 05:20:33] l3f : shery: please tell me you shorted
[2016-12-29 05:22:02] shery : l3f: 976 , I am on safe side, shorting today
[2016-12-29 05:22:08] raisetheblade : the C clamp is ready squeeze
[2016-12-29 05:22:44] l3f : shery: very good
[2016-12-29 05:23:20] l3f : prepare to cover
[2016-12-29 05:23:50] shery : l3f: I would love to get out a bit more lower and then short again if , it goes up gaian today
[2016-12-29 05:24:03] shery : l3f: but mega long tommorow
[2016-12-29 05:24:10] MikeHunt : i paniced and shorted wen huobi went into coma, bad idea :/
[2016-12-29 05:24:20] l3f : MikeHunt: need to work on your buy and hold
[2016-12-29 05:24:30] MikeHunt : its always been terrible lol
[2016-12-29 05:24:40] shery : MikeHunt: That want a bad idea, if it had not recovered we would be on 950 in 5 mints
[2016-12-29 05:24:47] MikeHunt : im like a french soldier in ww2, dont last long under pressure
[2016-12-29 05:25:17] shery : MikeHunt: I trade like such at times , but I avoid panic mostly
[2016-12-29 05:25:33] MoneySeeMoneyDo : just curious, if you buy XBT at leverage, do you get paid back in USD or in Bitcoin?
[2016-12-29 05:25:39] shery : MikeHunt: sometime it pays you sometime it fkc you
[2016-12-29 05:25:40] MoneySeeMoneyDo : sorry if that's a naive question. just curious.
[2016-12-29 05:25:49] narnarfromnarnia : MoneySeeMoneyDo: only btc here
[2016-12-29 05:25:51] shery : MoneySeeMoneyDo: bitcoin
[2016-12-29 05:25:59] MoneySeeMoneyDo : got it thanks.
[2016-12-29 05:26:06] MoneySeeMoneyDo : doing some observing today to see how it all works.
[2016-12-29 05:26:20] MikeHunt : i got raped $30, could have been a lot worse
[2016-12-29 05:26:30] narnarfromnarnia : MoneySeeMoneyDo: there's a test site you can get fake coins from facet
[2016-12-29 05:26:30] MikeHunt : $40*
[2016-12-29 05:26:46] MoneySeeMoneyDo : oh, yeah? thanks!
[2016-12-29 05:26:47] MoneySeeMoneyDo : will check it out
[2016-12-29 05:27:45] shery : MikeHunt: That isnt much, you could be fck by like 2000 usd, if it flash move up or down opposite to your position , i lost like 4 btc on xmr , after that i never tarded xmr, such a fcked up coin never predictble
[2016-12-29 05:28:03] narnarfromnarnia : shery: i just got rekt on xmr so easily
[2016-12-29 05:28:12] narnarfromnarnia : 10 minutes after trade was opene
[2016-12-29 05:28:24] shery : narnarfromnarnia: never trade xmr on bitmex,
[2016-12-29 05:28:28] ABHI7991 : shery: hey shrey niche jaiga abhi ya upar?
[2016-12-29 05:28:34] MikeHunt : shery: xmr? margin?
[2016-12-29 05:28:45] MikeHunt : shery: seen term thrown around, not entirely sure what u mean>?
[2016-12-29 05:28:46] shery : ABHI7991: aaja neechay , kal super rocket uper
[2016-12-29 05:28:50] MikeHunt : or it means
[2016-12-29 05:28:54] narnarfromnarnia : seems like market maker bot on alts is good
[2016-12-29 05:29:01] narnarfromnarnia : if not a big fee
[2016-12-29 05:29:31] shery : narnarfromnarnia: yeah, Only trade btcoin here
[2016-12-29 05:29:43] narnarfromnarnia : lesson learned
[2016-12-29 05:29:46] narnarfromnarnia : today
[2016-12-29 05:30:31] MikeHunt : o right xmr = monero
[2016-12-29 05:30:32] shery : narnarfromnarnia: it went from 1060 to 0.015 in 2-3 days , who would had predicted this, such a fcked coin ,
[2016-12-29 05:30:57] narnarfromnarnia : yeah i thought it was the bottom for sure
[2016-12-29 05:31:11] narnarfromnarnia : and on support but someone just removed bid stacks instantly
[2016-12-29 05:31:16] shery : narnarfromnarnia: its in the hnd of whales completly
[2016-12-29 05:31:22] narnarfromnarnia : right after my trade and only few trades done
[2016-12-29 05:31:44] narnarfromnarnia : shery: it's whale with bots right?
[2016-12-29 05:34:39] shery : narnarfromnarnia: No idea but whales drag t dwon, buy cheap and then push it up hard, best iea to trade xmr is to buy in $, cheaper and then sell when its high, if bitcoin is stable
[2016-12-29 05:35:26] narnarfromnarnia : shery: yea i don't think im making any trades unless i see blood
[2016-12-29 05:35:40] narnarfromnarnia : and focus on buy when its insane drop
[2016-12-29 05:35:49] narnarfromnarnia : maybe once a week if that's the case
[2016-12-29 05:35:52] elmorte : Sounds like XMR is the new ETH around here
[2016-12-29 05:36:20] shery : narnarfromnarnia: best idea is to not trade in xmr lol,
[2016-12-29 05:42:26] javierstone : here it comes
[2016-12-29 05:43:20] MikeHunt : altcoins generally pump and dump
[2016-12-29 05:43:28] MikeHunt : if they threaten bitcoin, the core devs copy the code
[2016-12-29 05:43:29] javierstone : thanks MIKE!
[2016-12-29 05:45:24] Trader3000 : Hi, is it possible to get support over this chat?
[2016-12-29 05:45:39] Trader3000 : I have a question.
[2016-12-29 05:46:12] elmorte : Usually they're lurking
[2016-12-29 05:46:39] ABHI7991 : any reviews of minergate?
[2016-12-29 05:46:40] elmorte : Unless it's friday night and they;re on the piss...
[2016-12-29 05:46:53] elmorte : Then you don't want support
[2016-12-29 05:47:06] Trader3000 : Is someone from Bitmex here?
[2016-12-29 05:47:16] happy : Hi
[2016-12-29 05:48:08] Trader3000 : I have some funding "fees". Is it possible to reduce this "fees" in my account? Do I have a possibility to do so?
[2016-12-29 05:48:48] elmorte : On the swap? Fees change every 8 hrs
[2016-12-29 05:49:32] elmorte : And you pay those to other traders, not to Bitmex.
[2016-12-29 05:49:40] Trader3000 : Is it possible to make my margin higher? Could you please have a look at my account?
[2016-12-29 05:49:57] elmorte : 100x is not enough?
[2016-12-29 05:50:22] Trader3000 : I have Bitmex BTCUSD.
[2016-12-29 05:50:47] tb : funding fees are an inherent part of the contract
[2016-12-29 05:50:51] Trader3000 : No, it is too high I think, but the fees are not low.
[2016-12-29 05:50:54] tb : the funding fees do not go to bitmex
[2016-12-29 05:51:04] tb : they go to the trader that took the other side of your trade
[2016-12-29 05:51:22] tb : if you had entered your opposite position, you would be the recipient of those fees
[2016-12-29 05:51:32] Trader3000 : ok, but there is a possibility to make the margin higher.
[2016-12-29 05:51:45] tb : are you at 100?
[2016-12-29 05:51:53] Trader3000 : yes.
[2016-12-29 05:52:06] Trader3000 : Over 100.
[2016-12-29 05:52:07] MoneySeeMoneyDo : it's a good time to be at 100.
[2016-12-29 05:52:09] MoneySeeMoneyDo : maybe not right now
[2016-12-29 05:52:11] MoneySeeMoneyDo : but in a few hours, sure
[2016-12-29 05:53:02] Gekko : 1000x margin def the way forward...
[2016-12-29 05:53:15] Trader3000 : I think I could rise my margin without an end. But this is impossible, isn't it?
[2016-12-29 05:54:00] Trader3000 : I have a little bit fear. This is the problem.
[2016-12-29 05:54:12] MoneySeeMoneyDo : if there is no fear, there is no trade
[2016-12-29 05:54:19] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i think that yoda said that once
[2016-12-29 05:54:20] Trader3000 : :-))
[2016-12-29 05:54:24] Gekko : hey, why stop at 1000x
[2016-12-29 05:55:56] Trader3000 : I have an available balance. Could I use this available balance to reduce the funding costs??
[2016-12-29 05:56:10] javierstone : er we go er we go er me now
[2016-12-29 05:58:18] Trader3000 : I could put the available balance to let the margin rise. Is this the right way (to reduce the funding costs)? This is the right question from me...
[2016-12-29 05:59:31] tb : you can use your available balance to increase your exposure
[2016-12-29 05:59:57] elmorte : Hmm...BitMEX seems to be entering some weird read-only mode on Chrome for me
[2016-12-29 06:00:14] Trader3000 : To reduce the available balance into the margin. To rise the margin.
[2016-12-29 06:00:47] Trader3000 : please tell me about it. It is important for me.
[2016-12-29 06:01:10] Trader3000 : Pls. :-))
[2016-12-29 06:01:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1994 @ 970.75
[2016-12-29 06:01:52] Trader3000 : Who is from Bitmex here at the chat??
[2016-12-29 06:02:04] elmorte : No, funding costs you can reduce only by reducing your position...
[2016-12-29 06:02:20] elmorte : They have a Bitmex_ prefix if they are from bitmex
[2016-12-29 06:02:25] MikeHunt : generally fees are there to make u risk conscious
[2016-12-29 06:02:32] elmorte : Email them at support@bitmex.com
[2016-12-29 06:03:12] elmorte : Oh, it wasn't a read only mode...just severely delayed by like 2-3 minutes...
[2016-12-29 06:03:46] Trader3000 : ok, thank you. I will write to it.
[2016-12-29 06:13:40] laisee : re TA: https://i.redd.it/gioak8ggtd6y.gif
[2016-12-29 06:14:40] javierstone : vroom vroom
[2016-12-29 06:16:25] Angelika : Why did everything slowed down to a crawl?
[2016-12-29 06:18:20] javierstone : so ppl stop paying attention
[2016-12-29 06:18:34] zach719 : ^
[2016-12-29 06:18:36] javierstone : just wen u least pect it BAM
[2016-12-29 06:18:52] javierstone : relax this won't hurt
[2016-12-29 06:19:05] zach719 : its coming
[2016-12-29 06:19:59] javierstone : the pregnant pause
[2016-12-29 06:20:55] happy : woow
[2016-12-29 06:21:15] javierstone : come out ye fickle beast
[2016-12-29 06:21:20] happy : looks like another crash coon (to 950?)
[2016-12-29 06:21:29] MoneySeeMoneyDo : why doesn't the mark price move very much even though the market is climbing
[2016-12-29 06:21:38] javierstone : leverage
[2016-12-29 06:22:38] MoneySeeMoneyDo : surprised this is not growing that much after lunch hours
[2016-12-29 06:22:42] elmorte : Anybody else bugging out on Windows Chrome? Bloody Edge is working better...
[2016-12-29 06:23:17] Trader3000 : Does someone know a link for the mark price chart that is free of charge?
[2016-12-29 06:23:35] Angelika : elmorte: no issue on MAC
[2016-12-29 06:25:37] Trader3000 : Or is this similar to the .XBT-chart??
[2016-12-29 06:25:42] happy : This is going to 978 and drop to 955???
[2016-12-29 06:26:29] narnarfromnarnia : elmorte: chrome
[2016-12-29 06:26:31] narnarfromnarnia : freezes
[2016-12-29 06:26:50] narnarfromnarnia : when switching through markets
[2016-12-29 06:26:53] elmorte : Trader3000: bitmex.kaiko.com should be free...
[2016-12-29 06:27:05] elmorte : Angelika: @narnarfromnarnia ok thanks
[2016-12-29 06:27:21] Trader3000 : oh... Thanks a lot elmorte!!!!!!1
[2016-12-29 06:27:31] elmorte : np
[2016-12-29 06:30:30] Sheriff : Dumbest question possible. If I have 1 btc to trade with, and btc is currently at 1000usd/btc, then I can enter up to 10,000 quantity to market order if I'm using 10x leverage right?
[2016-12-29 06:31:04] zach719 : yes
[2016-12-29 06:31:16] Sheriff : zach719: Thank you
[2016-12-29 06:31:22] zach719 : Sheriff: yup
[2016-12-29 06:38:08] elvisx : Just entered my first trade
[2016-12-29 06:40:01] Angelika : elvisx: good luck
[2016-12-29 06:40:21] Angelika : Don't bet the house
[2016-12-29 06:41:59] MoneySeeMoneyDo : well, i don't know about you, but I am expecting the buying resumes later tonight
[2016-12-29 06:42:05] MoneySeeMoneyDo : and into the end of the year
[2016-12-29 06:42:10] MoneySeeMoneyDo : kind of quiet these past few hours
[2016-12-29 06:43:40] rapidtrades : oh no doubt
[2016-12-29 06:43:58] rapidtrades : I'm sure the buying will continue forever and ever
[2016-12-29 06:44:55] elmorte : :D
[2016-12-29 06:45:03] MoneySeeMoneyDo : lol
[2016-12-29 06:49:03] ABHI7991 : kab crash hoga
[2016-12-29 06:54:30] ett1 : rapidtrades: have faith
[2016-12-29 06:56:41] ett1 : how is thevmark price on futres determined
[2016-12-29 06:57:29] ett1 : mark on spot is just an index of exchanges
[2016-12-29 06:57:54] ett1 : but how us the premium component calculated
[2016-12-29 07:01:44] javierstone : i love that gdax is balling out by itself 980
[2016-12-29 07:01:46] javierstone : lonely at the top
[2016-12-29 07:01:48] javierstone : views
[2016-12-29 07:02:35] elmorte : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking#Calculation-of-Fair-Price-for-Futures-Contracts
[2016-12-29 07:03:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 30 @ 972.86
[2016-12-29 07:09:20] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i'm setting my limit order for 1000
[2016-12-29 07:09:39] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i had predicted we would get frozen around 978 USD
[2016-12-29 07:09:47] MoneySeeMoneyDo : and it looks like i was a little off. it's about 974ish
[2016-12-29 07:14:58] ett1 : setting my market order for 150,000
[2016-12-29 07:19:35] happy : ett1:Buy or sell?
[2016-12-29 07:23:20] MoneySeeMoneyDo : better be a buy and then a sell at 1020
[2016-12-29 07:26:17] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i think we would be safe at 2000 after february 5.
[2016-12-29 07:27:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 380 @ 974.40
[2016-12-29 07:27:56] MoneySeeMoneyDo : it's about time to move on up if you ask me
[2016-12-29 07:29:38] javierstone : hello nurse
[2016-12-29 07:32:31] deep : happy: in My view its a buy for now. it will try to cross 980 as it appears. but if it fails to break 980 clearly, at least I will be out of long position and will remian silent till this weekend.
[2016-12-29 07:32:51] deep : may be this helps you
[2016-12-29 07:33:44] deep : also, it apprears that it will break clear of 980
[2016-12-29 07:33:51] MoneySeeMoneyDo : just watching this. what happens when the mark price is considerably higher than the entry price?
[2016-12-29 07:33:58] MoneySeeMoneyDo : good news for all concerned, no doubt.
[2016-12-29 07:39:42] ABHI7991 : ll it go down?
[2016-12-29 07:43:38] ett1 : bitmex should put a health disclaimer about the leverage. yesterday i had servere nausea. today i have been getting nosebleeds
[2016-12-29 07:44:08] ABHI7991 : ett1: lol
[2016-12-29 07:48:12] Gekko : You're obviously not using enough leverage....100x!,
[2016-12-29 07:56:30] emirate : this platform is bad
[2016-12-29 07:57:41] emirate : why my account is freeze very time i deposited
[2016-12-29 08:00:42] happy : wo which direction is heading to
[2016-12-29 08:11:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 5 @ 1022.94
[2016-12-29 08:11:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: sell 100 @ 967.92
[2016-12-29 08:13:13] aroraprav : 976 on finex
[2016-12-29 08:14:09] rapidtrades : noone cares about fakex
[2016-12-29 08:14:20] rapidtrades : faknex
[2016-12-29 08:15:08] nOgAnOo : How high did it go?? I got margin called.
[2016-12-29 08:15:18] nOgAnOo : Lost my 5 dollars. *crai*
[2016-12-29 08:15:36] MoneySeeMoneyDo : the snake is coiling!
[2016-12-29 08:15:55] MikeHunt : reckon we near top yet?
[2016-12-29 08:16:17] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i really don't think we have seen the top
[2016-12-29 08:16:17] MikeHunt : im not sure it being 1k on western exchanges matters that much compared to chinas
[2016-12-29 08:16:57] rapidtrades : yeah it does
[2016-12-29 08:26:11] shery : rapidtrades: Dont think so, west is just following china, 977 on finex,
[2016-12-29 08:26:29] shery : rapidtrades: watch it in a while when china dumps , west will foll
[2016-12-29 08:28:13] MoneySeeMoneyDo : my thesis is that Chinese traders benefit from sending the flag up the flag pole, they raise the price, watch, and then cash out, strategically. I don't belive the news hype that bitcoin is just a channel for capital controls escape. it's pure trading activity, or about 90% of it is
[2016-12-29 08:28:32] rapidtrades : noone cares about ur thesis dude
[2016-12-29 08:28:52] MoneySeeMoneyDo : thanks, can you introduce me to noone then? I am happy to talk with him or her about it
[2016-12-29 08:29:06] MoneySeeMoneyDo : seems that noone is already paying attention tho
[2016-12-29 08:29:15] l3f : gg bitcoin
[2016-12-29 08:29:17] MoneySeeMoneyDo : why does my thesis bother you so much, nobody?
[2016-12-29 08:29:20] l3f : it's all over
[2016-12-29 08:31:26] MikeHunt : l3f: crash time?
[2016-12-29 08:31:37] l3f : of course
[2016-12-29 08:32:30] mjones : H&s
[2016-12-29 08:33:12] rapidtrades : let's ask our resident whale
[2016-12-29 08:33:21] rapidtrades : sleger: crash?
[2016-12-29 08:33:25] l3f : last chance to get < 1k coins
[2016-12-29 08:33:29] l3f : load it up
[2016-12-29 08:33:56] shery : seems all are waiting for crash
[2016-12-29 08:34:08] rapidtrades : no just you and Mike
[2016-12-29 08:34:10] arbitrage001 : i am on
[2016-12-29 08:34:16] arbitrage001 : with my crystal ball
[2016-12-29 08:34:19] arbitrage001 : ask me anything
[2016-12-29 08:34:36] rapidtrades : Did Jews do 911?
[2016-12-29 08:35:21] arbitrage001 : my crystal ball said jews are not involved with the this number
[2016-12-29 08:35:23] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: im long i just want to take advantage of any short shorts
[2016-12-29 08:35:42] shery : rapidtrades: haha true
[2016-12-29 08:36:03] MoneySeeMoneyDo : lol
[2016-12-29 08:36:09] shery : rapidtrades: I thought i am alone
[2016-12-29 08:36:09] arbitrage001 : we are near 3 years high and people expecting a crash?
[2016-12-29 08:36:21] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i'm not
[2016-12-29 08:38:04] arbitrage001 : my crystal ball said sell your wife and children and buy bitcorn
[2016-12-29 08:38:42] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i used my last bitcoin to buy my first wife
[2016-12-29 08:38:56] arbitrage001 : MoneySeeMoneyDo: bad move
[2016-12-29 08:39:10] arbitrage001 : your wife depreciate, and bitcoin making new high
[2016-12-29 08:39:14] MoneySeeMoneyDo : it's okay, second one was free. it evened out
[2016-12-29 08:51:26] m3s : any idea why ETH is bouncing so hard?
[2016-12-29 08:51:32] m3s : capitulation?
[2016-12-29 08:51:54] MoneySeeMoneyDo : people were probably trying to take advantage of the btc drop to see if alts rose
[2016-12-29 08:51:59] MoneySeeMoneyDo : and it's not working so its bouncing
[2016-12-29 08:52:01] MoneySeeMoneyDo : is my guess
[2016-12-29 08:52:31] m3s : yeah bu xmr was pretty strong. new alt rally incoming /
[2016-12-29 08:52:34] m3s : ?
[2016-12-29 08:59:05] shery : m3s: No one could predict xmr, I think if you are looking for long term than yess I think trend is upward now
[2016-12-29 08:59:19] mariomarco : got rekt yesterday on xmr
[2016-12-29 08:59:23] mariomarco : motherfucking dumpers
[2016-12-29 08:59:34] mariomarco : 800btc dumpsell in a moment
[2016-12-29 09:00:46] l3f : shery: closed short?
[2016-12-29 09:00:57] l3f : shouldn't have 940 is coming
[2016-12-29 09:01:17] shery : l3f: shorted at 976 got out at 968 , if it goes up now i will short again
[2016-12-29 09:01:20] narnarfromnarnia : mariomarco: xmr dumped 800btc worth?
[2016-12-29 09:01:29] mariomarco : narnarfromnarnia: yesterday yes
[2016-12-29 09:01:33] mariomarco : from 14x to 133
[2016-12-29 09:01:35] shery : narnarfromnarnia: big whales
[2016-12-29 09:01:38] mariomarco : momentarily shorting my butt
[2016-12-29 09:01:41] MoneySeeMoneyDo : here we go 975 finally
[2016-12-29 09:01:42] MoneySeeMoneyDo : lol
[2016-12-29 09:01:42] narnarfromnarnia : yea i got rekt today
[2016-12-29 09:01:44] narnarfromnarnia : in 10min
[2016-12-29 09:01:51] narnarfromnarnia : .0133
[2016-12-29 09:02:08] narnarfromnarnia : from .0140 almost
[2016-12-29 09:02:10] narnarfromnarnia : insane
[2016-12-29 09:02:14] shery : somone got excited and bought at 975 Lol
[2016-12-29 09:02:31] happy : lol
[2016-12-29 09:02:40] MoneySeeMoneyDo : 980 is the signal that the fire is on
[2016-12-29 09:02:49] happy : who is buying at 975?
[2016-12-29 09:02:52] m3s : thats a big long lol
[2016-12-29 09:03:01] m3s : market bought aswell
[2016-12-29 09:03:27] shery : m3s: very Big ,he dowsnt have much leverage than he will get rekt Soon
[2016-12-29 09:04:11] happy : This will go down to 950 ?
[2016-12-29 09:04:16] happy : Or even less
[2016-12-29 09:04:25] m3s : not before making 1000 imo
[2016-12-29 09:04:33] l3f : nah straight down
[2016-12-29 09:04:38] MoneySeeMoneyDo : 950 is not on my radar
[2016-12-29 09:04:41] l3f : bitcoin's topped
[2016-12-29 09:04:51] shery : l3f: haha, I enjoy your comments
[2016-12-29 09:05:00] ett1 : this is denial phase
[2016-12-29 09:05:14] ett1 : exit while you can
[2016-12-29 09:05:34] m3s : glad I didnt sell yesterday at 950 :D
[2016-12-29 09:05:49] l3f : shery: my comments are of three types: 1. "should have bought and held", 2. Bitcoin's topped. 2. Short now for shits and giggles
[2016-12-29 09:05:54] l3f : 3.*
[2016-12-29 09:06:11] l3f : depending on how sarcastic I'm feeling
[2016-12-29 09:06:12] shery : l3f: Pure sarcism based comments
[2016-12-29 09:06:14] happy : i go REKT at 940
[2016-12-29 09:06:24] micmix : your forgot 'oops' @l3f
[2016-12-29 09:06:32] MoneySeeMoneyDo : get your horns out, we about to go moon again this evening
[2016-12-29 09:06:45] l3f : micmix: ah and the shit my own bot has broadcasted my liquidiation
[2016-12-29 09:06:49] ett1 : when your grand kids ask you about bitcon will you be able to tell them you made a lot of money shorting that
[2016-12-29 09:06:51] l3f : ah shit*
[2016-12-29 09:07:15] l3f : when my grandkids ask me about why I'm a penniless hobo I'll tell them I'm a degenerate gambler
[2016-12-29 09:07:41] micmix : just say I was a crypto trader, they will understand
[2016-12-29 09:07:46] ett1 : or you invested at the peak of a financial bubble
[2016-12-29 09:08:16] ett1 : and never to buy into manias
[2016-12-29 09:09:59] ett1 : 1000 is less than 2% away
[2016-12-29 09:10:17] ett1 : 3%*
[2016-12-29 09:10:37] ett1 : you can short now with 25x
[2016-12-29 09:11:02] ett1 : move to 50x when we crash below 950
[2016-12-29 09:12:24] l3f : ett1: I am not an expert on tops
[2016-12-29 09:12:45] l3f : and I don't think it'll top anytime soon
[2016-12-29 09:14:08] ett1 : same im feeling another pop. if it breaks 1000 it could blast higher
[2016-12-29 09:17:51] happy : going to crash?
[2016-12-29 09:18:03] shery : happy: ask from @l3f
[2016-12-29 09:21:51] l3f : https://twitter.com/BitmexRekt/status/814214974176460800
[2016-12-29 09:21:54] l3f : when did this happen?
[2016-12-29 09:21:56] l3f : lmfao
[2016-12-29 09:24:48] CaptainDean : holy fudge
[2016-12-29 09:26:05] elmorte : Hmm...it's not in the feed
[2016-12-29 09:26:18] l3f : elmorte: it is
[2016-12-29 09:26:20] l3f : check the chinese chat
[2016-12-29 09:26:25] chords : i had a huge loss
[2016-12-29 09:27:14] elmorte : That's where I'm looking
[2016-12-29 09:27:45] l3f : elmorte: XBCH17 空仓被爆: 买入 855448 @ 7236.2 碉堡了有木有 ? ? ?
[2016-12-29 09:28:23] happy : 1:02 PM - 28 Dec 2016
[2016-12-29 09:28:28] elmorte : Yup, found it...different timestamp on twitter n here
[2016-12-29 09:28:34] elmorte : [2016-12-28 21:02:32] REKT : XBCH17 空仓被爆: 买入 855448 @ 7236.2 **碉堡了有木有** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-12-29 09:28:34] happy : Beijing Time
[2016-12-29 09:29:47] m3s : l3f: wow
[2016-12-29 09:29:58] happy : 855K wow How much that worth
[2016-12-29 09:30:12] elmorte : 8.55m RMB nominal value
[2016-12-29 09:30:39] l3f : 1.2m usd
[2016-12-29 09:30:57] l3f : he got fucked for the tune of 12k minimum
[2016-12-29 09:31:07] happy : Why this person did not sell at market when the price approach....
[2016-12-29 09:31:41] ett1 : l3f: he shrted?
[2016-12-29 09:31:41] elmorte : 1181.59 XBT...
[2016-12-29 09:31:48] ytaews : yeah, can't imagine there would be much slippage on that size ... /s
[2016-12-29 09:31:48] chords : is the price going to drop or rise,i already bought 3000@975
[2016-12-29 09:31:58] l3f : just hold
[2016-12-29 09:32:03] elmorte : Maximum allowed risk limit....10.5% total margin required
[2016-12-29 09:32:08] rullwull : usd spot volumes are very lower, looks like people only speculating on deveratives. this summer move was like 5 times bigger volumes than the current one
[2016-12-29 09:32:13] happy : going down mabe
[2016-12-29 09:32:30] l3f : elmorte: well he got fucked hard
[2016-12-29 09:32:37] l3f : 100k usd?
[2016-12-29 09:33:11] happy : yes 100K USD without margin.
[2016-12-29 09:33:34] happy : Opps
[2016-12-29 09:33:35] l3f : just a typical night at vegas
[2016-12-29 09:33:53] lockhedge : elmorte: it's 5.5% initial margin at 1100 btc risk limit
[2016-12-29 09:33:56] happy : 1,000,000 Dollars
[2016-12-29 09:33:58] ett1 : hell make it back
[2016-12-29 09:34:22] elmorte : +5% maintenance
[2016-12-29 09:34:34] l3f : well that's 1 million less dollars less to short
[2016-12-29 09:34:36] l3f : so that's good I guess
[2016-12-29 09:34:44] happy : if he has 100x margin, that's still $10,000
[2016-12-29 09:35:09] elmorte : Not reflected in the insurance fund yet
[2016-12-29 09:35:10] ett1 : just a typical bank loan
[2016-12-29 09:35:40] elmorte : lockhedge: you lose both at liqudation, right?
[2016-12-29 09:36:04] l3f : you lose everything at liquidation
[2016-12-29 09:36:06] ett1 : the creditorer will have to write it off as his loss
[2016-12-29 09:36:13] l3f : bitmex can you update the risk limit page?
[2016-12-29 09:36:14] lockhedge : elmorte: you only lose maintenance margin, you need initial margin to open a position
[2016-12-29 09:36:14] l3f : https://www.bitmex.com/app/riskLimits
[2016-12-29 09:36:23] l3f : some instruments not listed
[2016-12-29 09:36:27] ett1 : dont gamble your own btc
[2016-12-29 09:36:38] elmorte : lockhedge: noted, thanks
[2016-12-29 09:36:39] ett1 : gamble your banks usd
[2016-12-29 09:37:02] ett1 : doesnt matter if they lose
[2016-12-29 09:37:32] elmorte : ooh, gotta check the insurance fund
[2016-12-29 09:37:32] elmorte : yup, thereabouts...
[2016-12-29 09:37:32] elmorte : + 5% maintenance
[2016-12-29 09:37:59] elmorte : sorry, that was a delay by my browser...5 minutes
[2016-12-29 09:39:22] l3f : 900 XBT 4% 4.5%
[2016-12-29 09:39:24] l3f : here it is
[2016-12-29 09:39:39] l3f : 4% initial, 4.5% mainteance on XBCH17
[2016-12-29 09:39:49] elmorte : you can click below the leverage slider as well
[2016-12-29 09:46:48] nOgAnOo : such price wow
[2016-12-29 09:47:49] narnarfromnarnia : such volatile
[2016-12-29 09:48:16] rms : cheap xbtz16
[2016-12-29 09:48:50] l3f : rms: more like cheap lilliquid piece of shit
[2016-12-29 09:49:08] rms : cheap like i had planned on deleveraging myself a bit before going to sleep
[2016-12-29 09:54:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 4723 @ 0.008540
[2016-12-29 09:58:44] m3s : eth going for it
[2016-12-29 10:08:56] CaptainDean : yeah the sold my few coins i had from mining
[2016-12-29 10:09:01] CaptainDean : just sold**
[2016-12-29 10:13:10] micmix : even after that massive liquidation XBCH17 still very cheap @ 15% compared to XBTH17 @ 21%
[2016-12-29 10:13:47] micmix : (fair basis rate)
[2016-12-29 10:25:16] elmorte : micmix: yeah, I'm waiting for that to reverse
[2016-12-29 10:25:53] micmix : XBCH17 was cheaper all this pump
[2016-12-29 10:26:20] elmorte : I know, I'm way longer than I initially planned
[2016-12-29 10:26:34] elmorte : Couldn't resist :D
[2016-12-29 10:28:40] elmorte : anyway, my first python project is displaying the XBCH17 orderbook in USD for comparison
[2016-12-29 10:54:28] mjones : Xbth17 premium dropping a bit. Way to go shorters
[2016-12-29 10:54:50] mjones : Maybe a big long closed
[2016-12-29 10:58:39] mjones : Btc hasn't moved much
[2016-12-29 10:58:46] mjones : Teasing us
[2016-12-29 11:03:21] narnarfromnarnia : how is this possible - https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard
[2016-12-29 11:03:30] narnarfromnarnia : 184274.15%
[2016-12-29 11:03:33] narnarfromnarnia : roe wtf
[2016-12-29 11:05:04] CaptainDean : Zec
[2016-12-29 11:05:10] CaptainDean : from 10 BTC to 0.3
[2016-12-29 11:08:16] arbitrage001 : was expecting 1000 today
[2016-12-29 11:08:31] arbitrage001 : guess i am wrong again
[2016-12-29 11:10:33] MoneySeeMoneyDo : one cannot expect too much
[2016-12-29 11:11:16] arbitrage001 : less than 3% away
[2016-12-29 11:15:45] MoneySeeMoneyDo : perhaps overnight for those of us in asia
[2016-12-29 11:17:09] micmix : CaptainDean: no, the way to go with ZEC was long from 0.03 to 10 btc
[2016-12-29 11:18:54] micmix : with multiple ADLs on the way up of course
[2016-12-29 11:22:56] elmorte : quickest 6.5 BTC I ever made
[2016-12-29 11:23:47] elmorte : took only slightly longer to lose most of it
[2016-12-29 11:30:11] CaptainDean : micmix: so it's you :-)
[2016-12-29 11:30:20] CaptainDean : micmix: ;-)
[2016-12-29 11:30:49] micmix : of course not, it's not possible to have ROI that high with any sizable profit
[2016-12-29 11:31:15] CaptainDean : micmix: i know i was kidding ! :D
[2016-12-29 11:31:18] micmix : that ROI is from something like 0.001 coins ;-)
[2016-12-29 11:31:23] nOgAnOo : I love you.
[2016-12-29 11:31:37] CaptainDean : micmix: yeah i was thinking the same thing
[2016-12-29 11:32:39] lockhedge : start balance was definitely less than 0.0365 btc, otherwise he would be in the notional list
[2016-12-29 11:32:50] micmix : my accounts are not on that list so don't try to guess :smile: @CaptainDean
[2016-12-29 11:36:55] micmix : lockhedge: I'm waiting for you to show up on the notional list, you must be close
[2016-12-29 11:46:14] mjones : China ip a bit
[2016-12-29 11:46:18] mjones : Up
[2016-12-29 11:46:54] lockhedge : micmix: i fear the entry barrier to the notional list is rising faster than my btc profits
[2016-12-29 11:48:05] mjones : How does leaderboard work
[2016-12-29 11:48:09] micmix : lockhedge: that's too bad :-( but the notional list should clear up a bit after couple of dumps
[2016-12-29 11:48:31] mjones : Does it start over when you have a low available balance
[2016-12-29 11:48:57] micmix : mjones: no, it's lifetime profit for your account
[2016-12-29 11:49:19] cryptobull : incoming shorts rekt?
[2016-12-29 11:49:21] mjones : Okay I'll never be on there
[2016-12-29 11:50:30] Drnknmonkey : What do you people think? When will it skyrocket
[2016-12-29 11:51:43] micmix : soon™
[2016-12-29 11:52:13] Drnknmonkey : Also using leverage ?
[2016-12-29 11:52:39] micmix : if you are using leverage it will skyrocket faster
[2016-12-29 11:52:56] cryptobull : lol
[2016-12-29 11:53:22] Drnknmonkey : Haha for sure
[2016-12-29 11:53:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCZ16`: buy 5700 @ 6930.5
[2016-12-29 11:53:59] micmix : here you go
[2016-12-29 11:54:05] cryptobull : :D
[2016-12-29 12:07:33] tommygunn : Good Morning NA, good night China
[2016-12-29 12:09:30] tommygunn : That last swap was almost nil
[2016-12-29 12:11:35] MoneySeeMoneyDo : thanks, China
[2016-12-29 12:11:53] ABHI7991 : sell sell selll
[2016-12-29 12:11:57] ABHI7991 : fall coming soon
[2016-12-29 12:12:28] bhinangt : YES...DOWN FALL EXPECTED
[2016-12-29 12:13:25] ABHI7991 : sellllll
[2016-12-29 12:19:20] Drnknmonkey : Not a big fall ?
[2016-12-29 12:20:16] deep : big fall possible?
[2016-12-29 12:20:19] zanza : new difficulty didn't increase that much
[2016-12-29 12:20:32] zanza : price jumps 25% and hash rate doesn't increase much ?
[2016-12-29 12:20:41] deep : 970 seems to be buildng as a new support....
[2016-12-29 12:21:01] deep : tonight USA market will make it clearer
[2016-12-29 12:21:44] deep : waiting for the fall......
[2016-12-29 12:23:40] happy : so gold price will fall as well?
[2016-12-29 12:25:15] deep : gold is old commodity.....bitcoin is new sensation.....
[2016-12-29 12:26:31] Headroom : I earn more money with gold than with btc
[2016-12-29 12:26:43] Headroom : so gold is still the top :>
[2016-12-29 12:26:51] shery : walls are getting placed at bitmex
[2016-12-29 12:29:50] rapidtrades : wallls? what do u know about walls shery?
[2016-12-29 12:30:06] shery : rapidtrades: nothing
[2016-12-29 12:30:07] Headroom : you could paint it
[2016-12-29 12:30:16] PARAFFIN : lel
[2016-12-29 12:30:38] shery : rapidtrades: only you know what a wall is
[2016-12-29 12:32:32] rapidtrades : Let me tell you a little story. Berlin, 1961
[2016-12-29 12:40:33] ElNuevo : where is the lending page here? how is borrowing done then?
[2016-12-29 12:42:20] MoneySeeMoneyDo : China dilutes Dollar role in currency basket to 22.4% from 26.4% as officials seek to mask Yuan instability.
[2016-12-29 12:42:28] MoneySeeMoneyDo : this is from bloomberg
[2016-12-29 12:42:34] MoneySeeMoneyDo : should have a big boost for bitcoin
[2016-12-29 12:42:40] MoneySeeMoneyDo : not sure why things are so quiet today
[2016-12-29 12:44:34] Headroom : many operators are not at work + the 2 last Market sessions of the year
[2016-12-29 12:45:06] Headroom : some market rooms in london are closed too
[2016-12-29 12:45:16] Headroom : check the global volumes
[2016-12-29 12:45:24] Headroom : of various trading products
[2016-12-29 12:46:50] MoneySeeMoneyDo : yeah makes sense
[2016-12-29 12:47:02] MoneySeeMoneyDo : about how long should you keep a trade on margin, if you can afford it
[2016-12-29 12:47:08] chords : how do you guys predict if there is going to be a fall or rise
[2016-12-29 12:47:22] MoneySeeMoneyDo : seems to me that 970 area is a good staging area for a boost up to 1000 area around the next three days
[2016-12-29 12:48:39] mjones : by guessing chords
[2016-12-29 12:48:57] chords : is the fall going to be huge, as in less than 935
[2016-12-29 12:49:07] Headroom : no one can, people think they have an additional brain when people with 40 years of experience continue to say you can't predict it
[2016-12-29 12:49:31] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i don't try to predict anything. I believe in trends only
[2016-12-29 12:49:37] mjones : BBANDS getting tight on the 1 hour and 2 hour
[2016-12-29 12:50:23] mjones : will bullwhale rescue the price and pump it or not
[2016-12-29 12:51:31] rapidtrades : yeah we're gonna go higher again, gotta hit that magin 1k
[2016-12-29 12:51:57] rapidtrades : prolly tonight as we get closer to futures settlement cos crypto ppl are autistic
[2016-12-29 12:52:22] deep : well said headroom
[2016-12-29 12:53:03] tuttyking : "cos crypto ppl are autistic" the realest thing said here @rapidtrades
[2016-12-29 12:53:16] deep : fortune favour braves......
[2016-12-29 12:53:19] tommygunn : waiting on that futures settlement, might see some nice moves
[2016-12-29 12:54:38] tommygunn : also short eth from 86
[2016-12-29 12:55:06] MoneySeeMoneyDo : sorry, when is futures settlement?
[2016-12-29 12:55:09] MoneySeeMoneyDo : is that in an hour or two?
[2016-12-29 12:55:47] rapidtrades : okc in 17 hrs
[2016-12-29 12:55:54] MoneySeeMoneyDo : thanks
[2016-12-29 12:56:00] rapidtrades : sorry 19 hrs
[2016-12-29 12:56:18] rapidtrades : 9 am CET
[2016-12-29 12:56:32] MoneySeeMoneyDo : got it
[2016-12-29 12:56:34] ett1 : chords: support & resistance, trend lines, momentum
[2016-12-29 12:57:16] ett1 : technical analysis to confirm a long tem guess
[2016-12-29 12:58:59] ett1 : you might think it will yo to 1200 so you might buy if it breaks 980 confirmation but get out where you think the market has proved you wrong or an indicator hits a certainnlevel
[2016-12-29 13:01:13] Headroom : and here you start to smile
[2016-12-29 13:01:24] Headroom : let me drink a tea after that
[2016-12-29 13:02:38] ett1 : wtf is china playing at. theyre obsessed with round numbers
[2016-12-29 13:02:55] chords : aiit got that, have been liquidated twice and i really wanna be careful in making my decisions now,the loss really broke me down
[2016-12-29 13:02:57] ett1 : and atemting to be tricky
[2016-12-29 13:03:36] ett1 : chords: what timeframe and leverage do u use
[2016-12-29 13:04:11] ett1 : the longer term the easier
[2016-12-29 13:08:44] shery : boring day for trading
[2016-12-29 13:09:19] ett1 : so far
[2016-12-29 13:09:29] ett1 : wheres my moon
[2016-12-29 13:10:18] ett1 : growing impatient it should be at 1200 by now
[2016-12-29 13:11:41] MoneySeeMoneyDo : this is when good traders do well and bad traders suffer. don't be impatient, if you can. just watch and don't do anything until it's time to do something.
[2016-12-29 13:11:58] shery : ett1: I think we will be at 1k tommorow,
[2016-12-29 13:12:15] shery : MoneySeeMoneyDo: Nice name