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[2016-12-29 05:11:02] l3f : third time in 48 hours this bullshit was pulled
[2016-12-29 05:11:13] l3f : grats dip buyers
[2016-12-29 05:11:19] mjones : but the dips are not going lower
[2016-12-29 05:11:30] l3f : mjones: that's a good sign
[2016-12-29 05:11:48] mjones : and price usually recovers close to 7000 CNY
[2016-12-29 05:11:56] mjones : so lets see what happens over the next few hours
[2016-12-29 05:12:07] mjones : then we got 27 hours till 0kcoin settlement
[2016-12-29 05:12:15] mjones : and 31 till bitmex
[2016-12-29 05:13:20] MikeHunt : so if it fails to hold 1k at midnight new year eve, it crash?
[2016-12-29 05:13:30] mjones : Still can't believe it broke 7000 cny and now someone trying to keep price down
[2016-12-29 05:13:55] l3f : MikeHunt: it never works like that
[2016-12-29 05:14:02] gladimor : mjones, there has to be a point of exhaustion in the buying force
[2016-12-29 05:14:16] l3f : and that point is above 1200
[2016-12-29 05:14:19] gladimor : A correction renews the buying force
[2016-12-29 05:14:30] gladimor : It will hit 1200, but I dont think on this run.
[2016-12-29 05:14:53] l3f : there will definitely be corrections before 1200
[2016-12-29 05:14:53] shery : mjones: what will settelement effect on market?
[2016-12-29 05:14:57] gladimor : A lot of people have already bought in, in expectation of a full post-$1000 breakout
[2016-12-29 05:15:01] ayy_lmao : it removes uncertainty
[2016-12-29 05:15:10] l3f : gladimor: not really, look at all the shorters in this chat
[2016-12-29 05:15:32] gladimor : There are a few yes
[2016-12-29 05:15:35] l3f : it gues up they buy
[2016-12-29 05:15:37] l3f : it goes down they sell
[2016-12-29 05:15:48] MikeHunt : i only do temp shorting, longterm im long
[2016-12-29 05:15:56] mjones : Probably none
[2016-12-29 05:16:46] mjones : But just means new money to flow into xbth17
[2016-12-29 05:16:59] mjones : From old quarterly
[2016-12-29 05:17:13] shery : mjones: oh fine
[2016-12-29 05:17:14] raisetheblade : who wears short shorts?
[2016-12-29 05:17:30] l3f : mjones: if I knew everyone will buy H17 then I'd pre buy?
[2016-12-29 05:17:34] l3f : so it would be priced in
[2016-12-29 05:18:30] mjones : But then new money enters and then premium goes up
[2016-12-29 05:18:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 60 @ 0.008210
[2016-12-29 05:19:03] mjones : The dumps have killed the premium a bit though. Need new pump
[2016-12-29 05:19:18] shery : just a small green candle and longers got excited
[2016-12-29 05:19:23] javierstone : we're ready
[2016-12-29 05:20:33] l3f : shery: please tell me you shorted
[2016-12-29 05:22:02] shery : l3f: 976 , I am on safe side, shorting today
[2016-12-29 05:22:08] raisetheblade : the C clamp is ready squeeze
[2016-12-29 05:22:44] l3f : shery: very good
[2016-12-29 05:23:20] l3f : prepare to cover
[2016-12-29 05:23:50] shery : l3f: I would love to get out a bit more lower and then short again if , it goes up gaian today
[2016-12-29 05:24:03] shery : l3f: but mega long tommorow
[2016-12-29 05:24:10] MikeHunt : i paniced and shorted wen huobi went into coma, bad idea :/
[2016-12-29 05:24:20] l3f : MikeHunt: need to work on your buy and hold
[2016-12-29 05:24:30] MikeHunt : its always been terrible lol
[2016-12-29 05:24:40] shery : MikeHunt: That want a bad idea, if it had not recovered we would be on 950 in 5 mints
[2016-12-29 05:24:47] MikeHunt : im like a french soldier in ww2, dont last long under pressure
[2016-12-29 05:25:17] shery : MikeHunt: I trade like such at times , but I avoid panic mostly
[2016-12-29 05:25:33] MoneySeeMoneyDo : just curious, if you buy XBT at leverage, do you get paid back in USD or in Bitcoin?
[2016-12-29 05:25:39] shery : MikeHunt: sometime it pays you sometime it fkc you
[2016-12-29 05:25:40] MoneySeeMoneyDo : sorry if that's a naive question. just curious.
[2016-12-29 05:25:49] narnarfromnarnia : MoneySeeMoneyDo: only btc here
[2016-12-29 05:25:51] shery : MoneySeeMoneyDo: bitcoin
[2016-12-29 05:25:59] MoneySeeMoneyDo : got it thanks.
[2016-12-29 05:26:06] MoneySeeMoneyDo : doing some observing today to see how it all works.
[2016-12-29 05:26:20] MikeHunt : i got raped $30, could have been a lot worse
[2016-12-29 05:26:30] narnarfromnarnia : MoneySeeMoneyDo: there's a test site you can get fake coins from facet
[2016-12-29 05:26:30] MikeHunt : $40*
[2016-12-29 05:26:46] MoneySeeMoneyDo : oh, yeah? thanks!
[2016-12-29 05:26:47] MoneySeeMoneyDo : will check it out
[2016-12-29 05:27:45] shery : MikeHunt: That isnt much, you could be fck by like 2000 usd, if it flash move up or down opposite to your position , i lost like 4 btc on xmr , after that i never tarded xmr, such a fcked up coin never predictble
[2016-12-29 05:28:03] narnarfromnarnia : shery: i just got rekt on xmr so easily
[2016-12-29 05:28:12] narnarfromnarnia : 10 minutes after trade was opene
[2016-12-29 05:28:24] shery : narnarfromnarnia: never trade xmr on bitmex,
[2016-12-29 05:28:28] ABHI7991 : shery: hey shrey niche jaiga abhi ya upar?
[2016-12-29 05:28:34] MikeHunt : shery: xmr? margin?
[2016-12-29 05:28:45] MikeHunt : shery: seen term thrown around, not entirely sure what u mean>?
[2016-12-29 05:28:46] shery : ABHI7991: aaja neechay , kal super rocket uper
[2016-12-29 05:28:50] MikeHunt : or it means
[2016-12-29 05:28:54] narnarfromnarnia : seems like market maker bot on alts is good
[2016-12-29 05:29:01] narnarfromnarnia : if not a big fee
[2016-12-29 05:29:31] shery : narnarfromnarnia: yeah, Only trade btcoin here
[2016-12-29 05:29:43] narnarfromnarnia : lesson learned
[2016-12-29 05:29:46] narnarfromnarnia : today
[2016-12-29 05:30:31] MikeHunt : o right xmr = monero
[2016-12-29 05:30:32] shery : narnarfromnarnia: it went from 1060 to 0.015 in 2-3 days , who would had predicted this, such a fcked coin ,
[2016-12-29 05:30:57] narnarfromnarnia : yeah i thought it was the bottom for sure
[2016-12-29 05:31:11] narnarfromnarnia : and on support but someone just removed bid stacks instantly
[2016-12-29 05:31:16] shery : narnarfromnarnia: its in the hnd of whales completly
[2016-12-29 05:31:22] narnarfromnarnia : right after my trade and only few trades done
[2016-12-29 05:31:44] narnarfromnarnia : shery: it's whale with bots right?
[2016-12-29 05:34:39] shery : narnarfromnarnia: No idea but whales drag t dwon, buy cheap and then push it up hard, best iea to trade xmr is to buy in $, cheaper and then sell when its high, if bitcoin is stable
[2016-12-29 05:35:26] narnarfromnarnia : shery: yea i don't think im making any trades unless i see blood
[2016-12-29 05:35:40] narnarfromnarnia : and focus on buy when its insane drop
[2016-12-29 05:35:49] narnarfromnarnia : maybe once a week if that's the case
[2016-12-29 05:35:52] elmorte : Sounds like XMR is the new ETH around here
[2016-12-29 05:36:20] shery : narnarfromnarnia: best idea is to not trade in xmr lol,
[2016-12-29 05:42:26] javierstone : here it comes
[2016-12-29 05:43:20] MikeHunt : altcoins generally pump and dump
[2016-12-29 05:43:28] MikeHunt : if they threaten bitcoin, the core devs copy the code
[2016-12-29 05:43:29] javierstone : thanks MIKE!
[2016-12-29 05:45:24] Trader3000 : Hi, is it possible to get support over this chat?
[2016-12-29 05:45:39] Trader3000 : I have a question.
[2016-12-29 05:46:12] elmorte : Usually they're lurking
[2016-12-29 05:46:39] ABHI7991 : any reviews of minergate?
[2016-12-29 05:46:40] elmorte : Unless it's friday night and they;re on the piss...
[2016-12-29 05:46:53] elmorte : Then you don't want support
[2016-12-29 05:47:06] Trader3000 : Is someone from Bitmex here?
[2016-12-29 05:47:16] happy : Hi
[2016-12-29 05:48:08] Trader3000 : I have some funding "fees". Is it possible to reduce this "fees" in my account? Do I have a possibility to do so?
[2016-12-29 05:48:48] elmorte : On the swap? Fees change every 8 hrs
[2016-12-29 05:49:32] elmorte : And you pay those to other traders, not to Bitmex.
[2016-12-29 05:49:40] Trader3000 : Is it possible to make my margin higher? Could you please have a look at my account?
[2016-12-29 05:49:57] elmorte : 100x is not enough?
[2016-12-29 05:50:22] Trader3000 : I have Bitmex BTCUSD.
[2016-12-29 05:50:47] tb : funding fees are an inherent part of the contract
[2016-12-29 05:50:51] Trader3000 : No, it is too high I think, but the fees are not low.
[2016-12-29 05:50:54] tb : the funding fees do not go to bitmex
[2016-12-29 05:51:04] tb : they go to the trader that took the other side of your trade
[2016-12-29 05:51:22] tb : if you had entered your opposite position, you would be the recipient of those fees
[2016-12-29 05:51:32] Trader3000 : ok, but there is a possibility to make the margin higher.
[2016-12-29 05:51:45] tb : are you at 100?
[2016-12-29 05:51:53] Trader3000 : yes.
[2016-12-29 05:52:06] Trader3000 : Over 100.
[2016-12-29 05:52:07] MoneySeeMoneyDo : it's a good time to be at 100.
[2016-12-29 05:52:09] MoneySeeMoneyDo : maybe not right now
[2016-12-29 05:52:11] MoneySeeMoneyDo : but in a few hours, sure
[2016-12-29 05:53:02] Gekko : 1000x margin def the way forward...
[2016-12-29 05:53:15] Trader3000 : I think I could rise my margin without an end. But this is impossible, isn't it?
[2016-12-29 05:54:00] Trader3000 : I have a little bit fear. This is the problem.
[2016-12-29 05:54:12] MoneySeeMoneyDo : if there is no fear, there is no trade
[2016-12-29 05:54:19] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i think that yoda said that once
[2016-12-29 05:54:20] Trader3000 : :-))
[2016-12-29 05:54:24] Gekko : hey, why stop at 1000x
[2016-12-29 05:55:56] Trader3000 : I have an available balance. Could I use this available balance to reduce the funding costs??
[2016-12-29 05:56:10] javierstone : er we go er we go er me now
[2016-12-29 05:58:18] Trader3000 : I could put the available balance to let the margin rise. Is this the right way (to reduce the funding costs)? This is the right question from me...
[2016-12-29 05:59:31] tb : you can use your available balance to increase your exposure
[2016-12-29 05:59:57] elmorte : Hmm...BitMEX seems to be entering some weird read-only mode on Chrome for me
[2016-12-29 06:00:14] Trader3000 : To reduce the available balance into the margin. To rise the margin.
[2016-12-29 06:00:47] Trader3000 : please tell me about it. It is important for me.
[2016-12-29 06:01:10] Trader3000 : Pls. :-))
[2016-12-29 06:01:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1994 @ 970.75
[2016-12-29 06:01:52] Trader3000 : Who is from Bitmex here at the chat??
[2016-12-29 06:02:04] elmorte : No, funding costs you can reduce only by reducing your position...
[2016-12-29 06:02:20] elmorte : They have a Bitmex_ prefix if they are from bitmex
[2016-12-29 06:02:25] MikeHunt : generally fees are there to make u risk conscious
[2016-12-29 06:02:32] elmorte : Email them at support@bitmex.com
[2016-12-29 06:03:12] elmorte : Oh, it wasn't a read only mode...just severely delayed by like 2-3 minutes...
[2016-12-29 06:03:46] Trader3000 : ok, thank you. I will write to it.
[2016-12-29 06:13:40] laisee : re TA: https://i.redd.it/gioak8ggtd6y.gif
[2016-12-29 06:14:40] javierstone : vroom vroom
[2016-12-29 06:16:25] Angelika : Why did everything slowed down to a crawl?
[2016-12-29 06:18:20] javierstone : so ppl stop paying attention
[2016-12-29 06:18:34] zach719 : ^
[2016-12-29 06:18:36] javierstone : just wen u least pect it BAM
[2016-12-29 06:18:52] javierstone : relax this won't hurt
[2016-12-29 06:19:05] zach719 : its coming
[2016-12-29 06:19:59] javierstone : the pregnant pause
[2016-12-29 06:20:55] happy : woow
[2016-12-29 06:21:15] javierstone : come out ye fickle beast
[2016-12-29 06:21:20] happy : looks like another crash coon (to 950?)
[2016-12-29 06:21:29] MoneySeeMoneyDo : why doesn't the mark price move very much even though the market is climbing
[2016-12-29 06:21:38] javierstone : leverage
[2016-12-29 06:22:38] MoneySeeMoneyDo : surprised this is not growing that much after lunch hours
[2016-12-29 06:22:42] elmorte : Anybody else bugging out on Windows Chrome? Bloody Edge is working better...
[2016-12-29 06:23:17] Trader3000 : Does someone know a link for the mark price chart that is free of charge?
[2016-12-29 06:23:35] Angelika : elmorte: no issue on MAC
[2016-12-29 06:25:37] Trader3000 : Or is this similar to the .XBT-chart??
[2016-12-29 06:25:42] happy : This is going to 978 and drop to 955???
[2016-12-29 06:26:29] narnarfromnarnia : elmorte: chrome
[2016-12-29 06:26:31] narnarfromnarnia : freezes
[2016-12-29 06:26:50] narnarfromnarnia : when switching through markets
[2016-12-29 06:26:53] elmorte : Trader3000: bitmex.kaiko.com should be free...
[2016-12-29 06:27:05] elmorte : Angelika: @narnarfromnarnia ok thanks
[2016-12-29 06:27:21] Trader3000 : oh... Thanks a lot elmorte!!!!!!1
[2016-12-29 06:27:31] elmorte : np
[2016-12-29 06:30:30] Sheriff : Dumbest question possible. If I have 1 btc to trade with, and btc is currently at 1000usd/btc, then I can enter up to 10,000 quantity to market order if I'm using 10x leverage right?
[2016-12-29 06:31:04] zach719 : yes
[2016-12-29 06:31:16] Sheriff : zach719: Thank you
[2016-12-29 06:31:22] zach719 : Sheriff: yup
[2016-12-29 06:38:08] elvisx : Just entered my first trade
[2016-12-29 06:40:01] Angelika : elvisx: good luck
[2016-12-29 06:40:21] Angelika : Don't bet the house
[2016-12-29 06:41:59] MoneySeeMoneyDo : well, i don't know about you, but I am expecting the buying resumes later tonight
[2016-12-29 06:42:05] MoneySeeMoneyDo : and into the end of the year
[2016-12-29 06:42:10] MoneySeeMoneyDo : kind of quiet these past few hours
[2016-12-29 06:43:40] rapidtrades : oh no doubt
[2016-12-29 06:43:58] rapidtrades : I'm sure the buying will continue forever and ever
[2016-12-29 06:44:55] elmorte : :D
[2016-12-29 06:45:03] MoneySeeMoneyDo : lol
[2016-12-29 06:49:03] ABHI7991 : kab crash hoga
[2016-12-29 06:54:30] ett1 : rapidtrades: have faith
[2016-12-29 06:56:41] ett1 : how is thevmark price on futres determined
[2016-12-29 06:57:29] ett1 : mark on spot is just an index of exchanges
[2016-12-29 06:57:54] ett1 : but how us the premium component calculated
[2016-12-29 07:01:44] javierstone : i love that gdax is balling out by itself 980
[2016-12-29 07:01:46] javierstone : lonely at the top
[2016-12-29 07:01:48] javierstone : views
[2016-12-29 07:02:35] elmorte : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking#Calculation-of-Fair-Price-for-Futures-Contracts
[2016-12-29 07:03:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 30 @ 972.86
[2016-12-29 07:09:20] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i'm setting my limit order for 1000
[2016-12-29 07:09:39] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i had predicted we would get frozen around 978 USD
[2016-12-29 07:09:47] MoneySeeMoneyDo : and it looks like i was a little off. it's about 974ish
[2016-12-29 07:14:58] ett1 : setting my market order for 150,000
[2016-12-29 07:19:35] happy : ett1:Buy or sell?
[2016-12-29 07:23:20] MoneySeeMoneyDo : better be a buy and then a sell at 1020
[2016-12-29 07:26:17] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i think we would be safe at 2000 after february 5.
[2016-12-29 07:27:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 380 @ 974.40
[2016-12-29 07:27:56] MoneySeeMoneyDo : it's about time to move on up if you ask me
[2016-12-29 07:29:38] javierstone : hello nurse
[2016-12-29 07:32:31] deep : happy: in My view its a buy for now. it will try to cross 980 as it appears. but if it fails to break 980 clearly, at least I will be out of long position and will remian silent till this weekend.
[2016-12-29 07:32:51] deep : may be this helps you
[2016-12-29 07:33:44] deep : also, it apprears that it will break clear of 980
[2016-12-29 07:33:51] MoneySeeMoneyDo : just watching this. what happens when the mark price is considerably higher than the entry price?
[2016-12-29 07:33:58] MoneySeeMoneyDo : good news for all concerned, no doubt.
[2016-12-29 07:39:42] ABHI7991 : ll it go down?
[2016-12-29 07:43:38] ett1 : bitmex should put a health disclaimer about the leverage. yesterday i had servere nausea. today i have been getting nosebleeds
[2016-12-29 07:44:08] ABHI7991 : ett1: lol
[2016-12-29 07:48:12] Gekko : You're obviously not using enough leverage....100x!,
[2016-12-29 07:56:30] emirate : this platform is bad
[2016-12-29 07:57:41] emirate : why my account is freeze very time i deposited
[2016-12-29 08:00:42] happy : wo which direction is heading to
[2016-12-29 08:11:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 5 @ 1022.94
[2016-12-29 08:11:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: sell 100 @ 967.92
[2016-12-29 08:13:13] aroraprav : 976 on finex
[2016-12-29 08:14:09] rapidtrades : noone cares about fakex
[2016-12-29 08:14:20] rapidtrades : faknex
[2016-12-29 08:15:08] nOgAnOo : How high did it go?? I got margin called.
[2016-12-29 08:15:18] nOgAnOo : Lost my 5 dollars. *crai*
[2016-12-29 08:15:36] MoneySeeMoneyDo : the snake is coiling!
[2016-12-29 08:15:55] MikeHunt : reckon we near top yet?
[2016-12-29 08:16:17] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i really don't think we have seen the top
[2016-12-29 08:16:17] MikeHunt : im not sure it being 1k on western exchanges matters that much compared to chinas
[2016-12-29 08:16:57] rapidtrades : yeah it does
[2016-12-29 08:26:11] shery : rapidtrades: Dont think so, west is just following china, 977 on finex,
[2016-12-29 08:26:29] shery : rapidtrades: watch it in a while when china dumps , west will foll
[2016-12-29 08:28:13] MoneySeeMoneyDo : my thesis is that Chinese traders benefit from sending the flag up the flag pole, they raise the price, watch, and then cash out, strategically. I don't belive the news hype that bitcoin is just a channel for capital controls escape. it's pure trading activity, or about 90% of it is
[2016-12-29 08:28:32] rapidtrades : noone cares about ur thesis dude
[2016-12-29 08:28:52] MoneySeeMoneyDo : thanks, can you introduce me to noone then? I am happy to talk with him or her about it
[2016-12-29 08:29:06] MoneySeeMoneyDo : seems that noone is already paying attention tho
[2016-12-29 08:29:15] l3f : gg bitcoin
[2016-12-29 08:29:17] MoneySeeMoneyDo : why does my thesis bother you so much, nobody?
[2016-12-29 08:29:20] l3f : it's all over
[2016-12-29 08:31:26] MikeHunt : l3f: crash time?
[2016-12-29 08:31:37] l3f : of course
[2016-12-29 08:32:30] mjones : H&s
[2016-12-29 08:33:12] rapidtrades : let's ask our resident whale
[2016-12-29 08:33:21] rapidtrades : sleger: crash?
[2016-12-29 08:33:25] l3f : last chance to get < 1k coins
[2016-12-29 08:33:29] l3f : load it up
[2016-12-29 08:33:56] shery : seems all are waiting for crash
[2016-12-29 08:34:08] rapidtrades : no just you and Mike
[2016-12-29 08:34:10] arbitrage001 : i am on
[2016-12-29 08:34:16] arbitrage001 : with my crystal ball
[2016-12-29 08:34:19] arbitrage001 : ask me anything
[2016-12-29 08:34:36] rapidtrades : Did Jews do 911?
[2016-12-29 08:35:21] arbitrage001 : my crystal ball said jews are not involved with the this number
[2016-12-29 08:35:23] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: im long i just want to take advantage of any short shorts
[2016-12-29 08:35:42] shery : rapidtrades: haha true
[2016-12-29 08:36:03] MoneySeeMoneyDo : lol
[2016-12-29 08:36:09] shery : rapidtrades: I thought i am alone
[2016-12-29 08:36:09] arbitrage001 : we are near 3 years high and people expecting a crash?
[2016-12-29 08:36:21] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i'm not
[2016-12-29 08:38:04] arbitrage001 : my crystal ball said sell your wife and children and buy bitcorn
[2016-12-29 08:38:42] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i used my last bitcoin to buy my first wife
[2016-12-29 08:38:56] arbitrage001 : MoneySeeMoneyDo: bad move
[2016-12-29 08:39:10] arbitrage001 : your wife depreciate, and bitcoin making new high
[2016-12-29 08:39:14] MoneySeeMoneyDo : it's okay, second one was free. it evened out
[2016-12-29 08:51:26] m3s : any idea why ETH is bouncing so hard?
[2016-12-29 08:51:32] m3s : capitulation?
[2016-12-29 08:51:54] MoneySeeMoneyDo : people were probably trying to take advantage of the btc drop to see if alts rose
[2016-12-29 08:51:59] MoneySeeMoneyDo : and it's not working so its bouncing
[2016-12-29 08:52:01] MoneySeeMoneyDo : is my guess
[2016-12-29 08:52:31] m3s : yeah bu xmr was pretty strong. new alt rally incoming /
[2016-12-29 08:52:34] m3s : ?
[2016-12-29 08:59:05] shery : m3s: No one could predict xmr, I think if you are looking for long term than yess I think trend is upward now
[2016-12-29 08:59:19] mariomarco : got rekt yesterday on xmr
[2016-12-29 08:59:23] mariomarco : motherfucking dumpers
[2016-12-29 08:59:34] mariomarco : 800btc dumpsell in a moment
[2016-12-29 09:00:46] l3f : shery: closed short?
[2016-12-29 09:00:57] l3f : shouldn't have 940 is coming
[2016-12-29 09:01:17] shery : l3f: shorted at 976 got out at 968 , if it goes up now i will short again
[2016-12-29 09:01:20] narnarfromnarnia : mariomarco: xmr dumped 800btc worth?
[2016-12-29 09:01:29] mariomarco : narnarfromnarnia: yesterday yes
[2016-12-29 09:01:33] mariomarco : from 14x to 133
[2016-12-29 09:01:35] shery : narnarfromnarnia: big whales
[2016-12-29 09:01:38] mariomarco : momentarily shorting my butt
[2016-12-29 09:01:41] MoneySeeMoneyDo : here we go 975 finally
[2016-12-29 09:01:42] MoneySeeMoneyDo : lol
[2016-12-29 09:01:42] narnarfromnarnia : yea i got rekt today
[2016-12-29 09:01:44] narnarfromnarnia : in 10min
[2016-12-29 09:01:51] narnarfromnarnia : .0133
[2016-12-29 09:02:08] narnarfromnarnia : from .0140 almost
[2016-12-29 09:02:10] narnarfromnarnia : insane
[2016-12-29 09:02:14] shery : somone got excited and bought at 975 Lol
[2016-12-29 09:02:31] happy : lol
[2016-12-29 09:02:40] MoneySeeMoneyDo : 980 is the signal that the fire is on
[2016-12-29 09:02:49] happy : who is buying at 975?
[2016-12-29 09:02:52] m3s : thats a big long lol
[2016-12-29 09:03:01] m3s : market bought aswell
[2016-12-29 09:03:27] shery : m3s: very Big ,he dowsnt have much leverage than he will get rekt Soon
[2016-12-29 09:04:11] happy : This will go down to 950 ?
[2016-12-29 09:04:16] happy : Or even less
[2016-12-29 09:04:25] m3s : not before making 1000 imo
[2016-12-29 09:04:33] l3f : nah straight down
[2016-12-29 09:04:38] MoneySeeMoneyDo : 950 is not on my radar
[2016-12-29 09:04:41] l3f : bitcoin's topped
[2016-12-29 09:04:51] shery : l3f: haha, I enjoy your comments
[2016-12-29 09:05:00] ett1 : this is denial phase
[2016-12-29 09:05:14] ett1 : exit while you can
[2016-12-29 09:05:34] m3s : glad I didnt sell yesterday at 950 :D
[2016-12-29 09:05:49] l3f : shery: my comments are of three types: 1. "should have bought and held", 2. Bitcoin's topped. 2. Short now for shits and giggles
[2016-12-29 09:05:54] l3f : 3.*
[2016-12-29 09:06:11] l3f : depending on how sarcastic I'm feeling
[2016-12-29 09:06:12] shery : l3f: Pure sarcism based comments
[2016-12-29 09:06:14] happy : i go REKT at 940
[2016-12-29 09:06:24] micmix : your forgot 'oops' @l3f
[2016-12-29 09:06:32] MoneySeeMoneyDo : get your horns out, we about to go moon again this evening
[2016-12-29 09:06:45] l3f : micmix: ah and the shit my own bot has broadcasted my liquidiation
[2016-12-29 09:06:49] ett1 : when your grand kids ask you about bitcon will you be able to tell them you made a lot of money shorting that
[2016-12-29 09:06:51] l3f : ah shit*
[2016-12-29 09:07:15] l3f : when my grandkids ask me about why I'm a penniless hobo I'll tell them I'm a degenerate gambler
[2016-12-29 09:07:41] micmix : just say I was a crypto trader, they will understand
[2016-12-29 09:07:46] ett1 : or you invested at the peak of a financial bubble
[2016-12-29 09:08:16] ett1 : and never to buy into manias
[2016-12-29 09:09:59] ett1 : 1000 is less than 2% away
[2016-12-29 09:10:17] ett1 : 3%*
[2016-12-29 09:10:37] ett1 : you can short now with 25x
[2016-12-29 09:11:02] ett1 : move to 50x when we crash below 950
[2016-12-29 09:12:24] l3f : ett1: I am not an expert on tops
[2016-12-29 09:12:45] l3f : and I don't think it'll top anytime soon
[2016-12-29 09:14:08] ett1 : same im feeling another pop. if it breaks 1000 it could blast higher
[2016-12-29 09:17:51] happy : going to crash?
[2016-12-29 09:18:03] shery : happy: ask from @l3f
[2016-12-29 09:21:51] l3f : https://twitter.com/BitmexRekt/status/814214974176460800
[2016-12-29 09:21:54] l3f : when did this happen?
[2016-12-29 09:21:56] l3f : lmfao
[2016-12-29 09:24:48] CaptainDean : holy fudge
[2016-12-29 09:26:05] elmorte : Hmm...it's not in the feed
[2016-12-29 09:26:18] l3f : elmorte: it is
[2016-12-29 09:26:20] l3f : check the chinese chat
[2016-12-29 09:26:25] chords : i had a huge loss
[2016-12-29 09:27:14] elmorte : That's where I'm looking
[2016-12-29 09:27:45] l3f : elmorte: XBCH17 空仓被爆: 买入 855448 @ 7236.2 碉堡了有木有 ? ? ?
[2016-12-29 09:28:23] happy : 1:02 PM - 28 Dec 2016
[2016-12-29 09:28:28] elmorte : Yup, found it...different timestamp on twitter n here
[2016-12-29 09:28:34] elmorte : [2016-12-28 21:02:32] REKT : XBCH17 空仓被爆: 买入 855448 @ 7236.2 **碉堡了有木有** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-12-29 09:28:34] happy : Beijing Time
[2016-12-29 09:29:47] m3s : l3f: wow
[2016-12-29 09:29:58] happy : 855K wow How much that worth
[2016-12-29 09:30:12] elmorte : 8.55m RMB nominal value
[2016-12-29 09:30:39] l3f : 1.2m usd
[2016-12-29 09:30:57] l3f : he got fucked for the tune of 12k minimum
[2016-12-29 09:31:07] happy : Why this person did not sell at market when the price approach....
[2016-12-29 09:31:41] ett1 : l3f: he shrted?
[2016-12-29 09:31:41] elmorte : 1181.59 XBT...
[2016-12-29 09:31:48] ytaews : yeah, can't imagine there would be much slippage on that size ... /s
[2016-12-29 09:31:48] chords : is the price going to drop or rise,i already bought 3000@975
[2016-12-29 09:31:58] l3f : just hold
[2016-12-29 09:32:03] elmorte : Maximum allowed risk limit....10.5% total margin required
[2016-12-29 09:32:08] rullwull : usd spot volumes are very lower, looks like people only speculating on deveratives. this summer move was like 5 times bigger volumes than the current one
[2016-12-29 09:32:13] happy : going down mabe
[2016-12-29 09:32:30] l3f : elmorte: well he got fucked hard
[2016-12-29 09:32:37] l3f : 100k usd?
[2016-12-29 09:33:11] happy : yes 100K USD without margin.
[2016-12-29 09:33:34] happy : Opps
[2016-12-29 09:33:35] l3f : just a typical night at vegas
[2016-12-29 09:33:53] lockhedge : elmorte: it's 5.5% initial margin at 1100 btc risk limit
[2016-12-29 09:33:56] happy : 1,000,000 Dollars
[2016-12-29 09:33:58] ett1 : hell make it back
[2016-12-29 09:34:22] elmorte : +5% maintenance
[2016-12-29 09:34:34] l3f : well that's 1 million less dollars less to short
[2016-12-29 09:34:36] l3f : so that's good I guess
[2016-12-29 09:34:44] happy : if he has 100x margin, that's still $10,000
[2016-12-29 09:35:09] elmorte : Not reflected in the insurance fund yet
[2016-12-29 09:35:10] ett1 : just a typical bank loan
[2016-12-29 09:35:40] elmorte : lockhedge: you lose both at liqudation, right?
[2016-12-29 09:36:04] l3f : you lose everything at liquidation
[2016-12-29 09:36:06] ett1 : the creditorer will have to write it off as his loss
[2016-12-29 09:36:13] l3f : bitmex can you update the risk limit page?
[2016-12-29 09:36:14] lockhedge : elmorte: you only lose maintenance margin, you need initial margin to open a position
[2016-12-29 09:36:14] l3f : https://www.bitmex.com/app/riskLimits
[2016-12-29 09:36:23] l3f : some instruments not listed
[2016-12-29 09:36:27] ett1 : dont gamble your own btc
[2016-12-29 09:36:38] elmorte : lockhedge: noted, thanks
[2016-12-29 09:36:39] ett1 : gamble your banks usd
[2016-12-29 09:37:02] ett1 : doesnt matter if they lose
[2016-12-29 09:37:32] elmorte : ooh, gotta check the insurance fund
[2016-12-29 09:37:32] elmorte : yup, thereabouts...
[2016-12-29 09:37:32] elmorte : + 5% maintenance
[2016-12-29 09:37:59] elmorte : sorry, that was a delay by my browser...5 minutes
[2016-12-29 09:39:22] l3f : 900 XBT 4% 4.5%
[2016-12-29 09:39:24] l3f : here it is
[2016-12-29 09:39:39] l3f : 4% initial, 4.5% mainteance on XBCH17
[2016-12-29 09:39:49] elmorte : you can click below the leverage slider as well
[2016-12-29 09:46:48] nOgAnOo : such price wow
[2016-12-29 09:47:49] narnarfromnarnia : such volatile
[2016-12-29 09:48:16] rms : cheap xbtz16
[2016-12-29 09:48:50] l3f : rms: more like cheap lilliquid piece of shit
[2016-12-29 09:49:08] rms : cheap like i had planned on deleveraging myself a bit before going to sleep
[2016-12-29 09:54:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 4723 @ 0.008540
[2016-12-29 09:58:44] m3s : eth going for it
[2016-12-29 10:08:56] CaptainDean : yeah the sold my few coins i had from mining
[2016-12-29 10:09:01] CaptainDean : just sold**
[2016-12-29 10:13:10] micmix : even after that massive liquidation XBCH17 still very cheap @ 15% compared to XBTH17 @ 21%
[2016-12-29 10:13:47] micmix : (fair basis rate)
[2016-12-29 10:25:16] elmorte : micmix: yeah, I'm waiting for that to reverse
[2016-12-29 10:25:53] micmix : XBCH17 was cheaper all this pump
[2016-12-29 10:26:20] elmorte : I know, I'm way longer than I initially planned
[2016-12-29 10:26:34] elmorte : Couldn't resist :D
[2016-12-29 10:28:40] elmorte : anyway, my first python project is displaying the XBCH17 orderbook in USD for comparison
[2016-12-29 10:54:28] mjones : Xbth17 premium dropping a bit. Way to go shorters
[2016-12-29 10:54:50] mjones : Maybe a big long closed
[2016-12-29 10:58:39] mjones : Btc hasn't moved much
[2016-12-29 10:58:46] mjones : Teasing us
[2016-12-29 11:03:21] narnarfromnarnia : how is this possible - https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard
[2016-12-29 11:03:30] narnarfromnarnia : 184274.15%
[2016-12-29 11:03:33] narnarfromnarnia : roe wtf
[2016-12-29 11:05:04] CaptainDean : Zec
[2016-12-29 11:05:10] CaptainDean : from 10 BTC to 0.3
[2016-12-29 11:08:16] arbitrage001 : was expecting 1000 today
[2016-12-29 11:08:31] arbitrage001 : guess i am wrong again
[2016-12-29 11:10:33] MoneySeeMoneyDo : one cannot expect too much
[2016-12-29 11:11:16] arbitrage001 : less than 3% away
[2016-12-29 11:15:45] MoneySeeMoneyDo : perhaps overnight for those of us in asia
[2016-12-29 11:17:09] micmix : CaptainDean: no, the way to go with ZEC was long from 0.03 to 10 btc
[2016-12-29 11:18:54] micmix : with multiple ADLs on the way up of course
[2016-12-29 11:22:56] elmorte : quickest 6.5 BTC I ever made
[2016-12-29 11:23:47] elmorte : took only slightly longer to lose most of it
[2016-12-29 11:30:11] CaptainDean : micmix: so it's you :-)
[2016-12-29 11:30:20] CaptainDean : micmix: ;-)
[2016-12-29 11:30:49] micmix : of course not, it's not possible to have ROI that high with any sizable profit
[2016-12-29 11:31:15] CaptainDean : micmix: i know i was kidding ! :D
[2016-12-29 11:31:18] micmix : that ROI is from something like 0.001 coins ;-)
[2016-12-29 11:31:23] nOgAnOo : I love you.
[2016-12-29 11:31:37] CaptainDean : micmix: yeah i was thinking the same thing
[2016-12-29 11:32:39] lockhedge : start balance was definitely less than 0.0365 btc, otherwise he would be in the notional list
[2016-12-29 11:32:50] micmix : my accounts are not on that list so don't try to guess :smile: @CaptainDean
[2016-12-29 11:36:55] micmix : lockhedge: I'm waiting for you to show up on the notional list, you must be close
[2016-12-29 11:46:14] mjones : China ip a bit
[2016-12-29 11:46:18] mjones : Up
[2016-12-29 11:46:54] lockhedge : micmix: i fear the entry barrier to the notional list is rising faster than my btc profits
[2016-12-29 11:48:05] mjones : How does leaderboard work
[2016-12-29 11:48:09] micmix : lockhedge: that's too bad :-( but the notional list should clear up a bit after couple of dumps
[2016-12-29 11:48:31] mjones : Does it start over when you have a low available balance
[2016-12-29 11:48:57] micmix : mjones: no, it's lifetime profit for your account
[2016-12-29 11:49:19] cryptobull : incoming shorts rekt?
[2016-12-29 11:49:21] mjones : Okay I'll never be on there
[2016-12-29 11:50:30] Drnknmonkey : What do you people think? When will it skyrocket
[2016-12-29 11:51:43] micmix : soon™
[2016-12-29 11:52:13] Drnknmonkey : Also using leverage ?
[2016-12-29 11:52:39] micmix : if you are using leverage it will skyrocket faster
[2016-12-29 11:52:56] cryptobull : lol
[2016-12-29 11:53:22] Drnknmonkey : Haha for sure
[2016-12-29 11:53:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCZ16`: buy 5700 @ 6930.5
[2016-12-29 11:53:59] micmix : here you go
[2016-12-29 11:54:05] cryptobull : :D
[2016-12-29 12:07:33] tommygunn : Good Morning NA, good night China
[2016-12-29 12:09:30] tommygunn : That last swap was almost nil
[2016-12-29 12:11:35] MoneySeeMoneyDo : thanks, China
[2016-12-29 12:11:53] ABHI7991 : sell sell selll
[2016-12-29 12:11:57] ABHI7991 : fall coming soon
[2016-12-29 12:12:28] bhinangt : YES...DOWN FALL EXPECTED
[2016-12-29 12:13:25] ABHI7991 : sellllll
[2016-12-29 12:19:20] Drnknmonkey : Not a big fall ?
[2016-12-29 12:20:16] deep : big fall possible?
[2016-12-29 12:20:19] zanza : new difficulty didn't increase that much
[2016-12-29 12:20:32] zanza : price jumps 25% and hash rate doesn't increase much ?
[2016-12-29 12:20:41] deep : 970 seems to be buildng as a new support....
[2016-12-29 12:21:01] deep : tonight USA market will make it clearer
[2016-12-29 12:21:44] deep : waiting for the fall......
[2016-12-29 12:23:40] happy : so gold price will fall as well?
[2016-12-29 12:25:15] deep : gold is old commodity.....bitcoin is new sensation.....
[2016-12-29 12:26:31] Headroom : I earn more money with gold than with btc
[2016-12-29 12:26:43] Headroom : so gold is still the top :>
[2016-12-29 12:26:51] shery : walls are getting placed at bitmex
[2016-12-29 12:29:50] rapidtrades : wallls? what do u know about walls shery?
[2016-12-29 12:30:06] shery : rapidtrades: nothing
[2016-12-29 12:30:07] Headroom : you could paint it
[2016-12-29 12:30:16] PARAFFIN : lel
[2016-12-29 12:30:38] shery : rapidtrades: only you know what a wall is
[2016-12-29 12:32:32] rapidtrades : Let me tell you a little story. Berlin, 1961
[2016-12-29 12:40:33] ElNuevo : where is the lending page here? how is borrowing done then?
[2016-12-29 12:42:20] MoneySeeMoneyDo : China dilutes Dollar role in currency basket to 22.4% from 26.4% as officials seek to mask Yuan instability.
[2016-12-29 12:42:28] MoneySeeMoneyDo : this is from bloomberg
[2016-12-29 12:42:34] MoneySeeMoneyDo : should have a big boost for bitcoin
[2016-12-29 12:42:40] MoneySeeMoneyDo : not sure why things are so quiet today
[2016-12-29 12:44:34] Headroom : many operators are not at work + the 2 last Market sessions of the year
[2016-12-29 12:45:06] Headroom : some market rooms in london are closed too
[2016-12-29 12:45:16] Headroom : check the global volumes
[2016-12-29 12:45:24] Headroom : of various trading products
[2016-12-29 12:46:50] MoneySeeMoneyDo : yeah makes sense
[2016-12-29 12:47:02] MoneySeeMoneyDo : about how long should you keep a trade on margin, if you can afford it
[2016-12-29 12:47:08] chords : how do you guys predict if there is going to be a fall or rise
[2016-12-29 12:47:22] MoneySeeMoneyDo : seems to me that 970 area is a good staging area for a boost up to 1000 area around the next three days
[2016-12-29 12:48:39] mjones : by guessing chords
[2016-12-29 12:48:57] chords : is the fall going to be huge, as in less than 935
[2016-12-29 12:49:07] Headroom : no one can, people think they have an additional brain when people with 40 years of experience continue to say you can't predict it
[2016-12-29 12:49:31] MoneySeeMoneyDo : i don't try to predict anything. I believe in trends only
[2016-12-29 12:49:37] mjones : BBANDS getting tight on the 1 hour and 2 hour
[2016-12-29 12:50:23] mjones : will bullwhale rescue the price and pump it or not
[2016-12-29 12:51:31] rapidtrades : yeah we're gonna go higher again, gotta hit that magin 1k
[2016-12-29 12:51:57] rapidtrades : prolly tonight as we get closer to futures settlement cos crypto ppl are autistic
[2016-12-29 12:52:22] deep : well said headroom
[2016-12-29 12:53:03] tuttyking : "cos crypto ppl are autistic" the realest thing said here @rapidtrades
[2016-12-29 12:53:16] deep : fortune favour braves......
[2016-12-29 12:53:19] tommygunn : waiting on that futures settlement, might see some nice moves
[2016-12-29 12:54:38] tommygunn : also short eth from 86