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[2016-12-28 16:37:44] Headroom : pray first :)
[2016-12-28 16:37:52] Nerve : LOL God is busy this days
[2016-12-28 16:39:43] Nerve : mjones: me to, but was in at 1000.00, and closed at 1007.41 / 100x lol
[2016-12-28 16:39:55] mjones : damn
[2016-12-28 16:40:20] mjones : i put up a joking short wall way above the price on H17 and someone filled it i loled
[2016-12-28 16:40:26] mjones : closed lower
[2016-12-28 16:40:41] mjones : mark price was like $9 lower
[2016-12-28 16:40:56] mjones : H17 orderbook was wack for a bit there
[2016-12-28 16:41:16] mjones : that's gonna suck when this really dumps and orderbook is empty. margin calls margin calls everywhere
[2016-12-28 16:41:33] Headroom : what a rude life
[2016-12-28 16:41:34] javierstone : whoa major crash wtf
[2016-12-28 16:41:56] mjones : price went up 21% and dumped 3% not major
[2016-12-28 16:42:04] mjones : wait for that 10%-20% crash
[2016-12-28 16:42:13] Tr : thats not major yeah
[2016-12-28 16:42:21] Tr : major crash is a 1d or 3d red candle
[2016-12-28 16:42:29] Nerve : knock knock !!!
[2016-12-28 16:42:31] mjones : when people longing on 10x and 20x get margin called. then we see some big rekts
[2016-12-28 16:42:53] Tr : why do 10x when u can do 100x
[2016-12-28 16:43:07] mjones : because you have sooo many BTC that you cant do 100x
[2016-12-28 16:43:08] javierstone : hello 6820 my old friend
[2016-12-28 16:43:40] javierstone : hunting for them longs
[2016-12-28 16:43:44] javierstone : shake it
[2016-12-28 16:43:51] mjones : anyways this sucks man. i'm moving right now. back to trading by phone
[2016-12-28 16:44:39] Angelika : for my account to be 100x I have to buy 3 mill contracts
[2016-12-28 16:45:33] justinlooking : do it
[2016-12-28 16:46:14] Nerve : mjones: don't do that. is very sick on the phone, you will loose the entrys and the exit too...
[2016-12-28 16:46:48] Nerve : Angelika: thats great ! just do it
[2016-12-28 16:47:31] shery : shorted at 963 closed 952, again short 954 closed at 946, again shorted 954 closed 950, shorting dday
[2016-12-28 16:47:31] Nerve : Angelika: so you're a rich diva ?
[2016-12-28 16:47:31] aethlios : mjones: when things are getting ugly the big guys will large capital no leverage get in and grap the liquidated positions. they make money.
[2016-12-28 16:48:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 200 @ 0.014281
[2016-12-28 16:48:56] Nerve : prepare for a constant drop...
[2016-12-28 16:49:03] m3s : shery: short now ?
[2016-12-28 16:49:28] Tr : i dont think its possible to read manipulated market
[2016-12-28 16:49:30] Tr : TA does not apply
[2016-12-28 16:49:47] shery : m3s: No, i am out for today will decide tommorow thigs are unpredictable now
[2016-12-28 16:49:59] Tr : it can easily be 1 fire minute candle to 7000 any second cause of China
[2016-12-28 16:50:09] Tr : five min*
[2016-12-28 16:53:51] Nerve : 6800 on Huobi...and looks like is going more down
[2016-12-28 16:54:05] Nerve : here we go...
[2016-12-28 16:54:31] Tr : nah its fake pumping back up
[2016-12-28 16:55:09] m3s : unless its destiny candle to 7k
[2016-12-28 16:55:26] Nerve : maybe...maybe not
[2016-12-28 16:55:41] m3s : probably not
[2016-12-28 16:55:48] m3s : lol
[2016-12-28 16:56:08] Tr : Crooked China wants to lure more longs
[2016-12-28 16:56:39] m3s : crooked choyna xD
[2016-12-28 16:57:06] m3s : I'm thinking of exiting with a small loss
[2016-12-28 16:57:16] m3s : which mean I sould buy more
[2016-12-28 16:57:40] shery : m3s: actually you should
[2016-12-28 16:57:41] m3s : historicaly looking I would have been way better off
[2016-12-28 16:58:18] shery : m3s: before we are at935-940
[2016-12-28 16:59:04] m3s : was having my work review when it fell
[2016-12-28 16:59:56] m3s : fees are raping me tho
[2016-12-28 17:00:10] oladpeter : pls,can i create 2 position the same time on this platform
[2016-12-28 17:00:19] shery : oladpeter: no
[2016-12-28 17:00:22] m3s : no
[2016-12-28 17:00:35] oladpeter : Thanks
[2016-12-28 17:00:43] m3s : not yet ? :P
[2016-12-28 17:00:51] tb : what is he even asking?
[2016-12-28 17:01:03] m3s : he wants to short when he is long
[2016-12-28 17:01:08] oladpeter : no
[2016-12-28 17:01:15] oladpeter : i want to long
[2016-12-28 17:01:22] oladpeter : i bougght 963
[2016-12-28 17:01:24] m3s : long long ?
[2016-12-28 17:01:33] m3s : you can add to your posish
[2016-12-28 17:01:33] oladpeter : yes
[2016-12-28 17:01:35] shery : oladpeter: long and then long
[2016-12-28 17:01:36] shery : ?
[2016-12-28 17:01:42] tb : see
[2016-12-28 17:01:50] oladpeter : yes
[2016-12-28 17:02:00] oladpeter : is it possible?
[2016-12-28 17:02:02] tb : do you want separate positions or combined
[2016-12-28 17:02:03] shery : oladpeter: so that will average out
[2016-12-28 17:02:12] oladpeter : yes
[2016-12-28 17:02:19] tb : just buy more
[2016-12-28 17:03:06] oladpeter : Available Balance 10.5039 XBT Position Size After Execution 120000 Estimated Liquidation Price 952.20
[2016-12-28 17:03:30] oladpeter : why is it displaying liquidation price 952.20
[2016-12-28 17:03:46] shery : oladpeter: are you 100 x?
[2016-12-28 17:04:01] oladpeter : when i have alot of bitcoins to cover it
[2016-12-28 17:04:03] oladpeter : yes
[2016-12-28 17:04:06] oladpeter : it is
[2016-12-28 17:04:18] m3s : change your leverage
[2016-12-28 17:04:31] shery : oladpeter: O man ,,,, change your levarage
[2016-12-28 17:04:32] aethlios : many longs escaped early now
[2016-12-28 17:04:57] oladpeter : change leverage to what
[2016-12-28 17:05:09] tb : less than 100x
[2016-12-28 17:05:18] tb : you can change your leverage to change your liquidation price
[2016-12-28 17:05:18] m3s : 10x or whatever
[2016-12-28 17:06:19] oladpeter : oh ok
[2016-12-28 17:06:21] oladpeter : thanks
[2016-12-28 17:06:27] oladpeter : thanks
[2016-12-28 17:07:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 82 @ 0.007510
[2016-12-28 17:09:32] bhinangt : long @ 965 with 100x... should I wait or square off the position?
[2016-12-28 17:10:07] m3s : bhinangt: funding is basically free, so do whatever you think will hapeen
[2016-12-28 17:11:03] oladpeter : bhinangt: wait
[2016-12-28 17:11:11] oladpeter : it is going over 1000
[2016-12-28 17:11:51] bhinangt : oladpeter: Thanks! awaiting great profit!! :)
[2016-12-28 17:11:51] oladpeter : i will cover ur loss if it didnt over 1000
[2016-12-28 17:12:03] justinlooking : lol
[2016-12-28 17:12:41] Nerve : oladpeter: lol
[2016-12-28 17:13:03] brouk : oladpeter: will you cover mine loss too?
[2016-12-28 17:13:03] rapidtrades : yeah we're too close to 1k to fall now
[2016-12-28 17:13:08] rapidtrades : we have to hit it imo
[2016-12-28 17:13:13] rapidtrades : or near it
[2016-12-28 17:13:18] justinlooking : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u40mJ_ls5VE
[2016-12-28 17:13:32] Nerve : in this way to 1k this coin have ups and downs...so 100x is perfect for a direct shot to 1000
[2016-12-28 17:13:34] Nerve : LOL
[2016-12-28 17:14:24] Headroom : buy bananas sell tomatoes
[2016-12-28 17:15:38] rapidtrades : eat potato!
[2016-12-28 17:16:19] Nerve : LOOL
[2016-12-28 17:17:12] bhinangt : great idea to FLUSH all your profits
[2016-12-28 17:19:45] mjones : looks like sideways till china wakes up
[2016-12-28 17:20:14] javierstone : mjones: whales have gotten smart to drop the market before china wakes up
[2016-12-28 17:21:22] javierstone : i have this sneaking suspicion that either kim dot com or winklevoss company needs a bunch of coins for business purposes and are secretly buying them up without trying to cause too much of a pump
[2016-12-28 17:21:43] mjones : probably
[2016-12-28 17:21:49] mjones : kim dot com is very interesting
[2016-12-28 17:21:55] mjones : we dont know much but he may be full of shit
[2016-12-28 17:22:33] javierstone : mjones: but he can play COD like a motherfuker
[2016-12-28 17:23:06] javierstone : mjones: he's such an interesting character. i love people whose past actions and current talk force u to give him 50/50 chances of being totally true or full of shit
[2016-12-28 17:23:09] mjones : what does cod stand for
[2016-12-28 17:23:20] javierstone : call of duty... he's like a world champion
[2016-12-28 17:23:23] mjones : oh
[2016-12-28 17:23:35] mjones : yeah he could have a bombass business idea that involves BTC in a big way
[2016-12-28 17:23:35] javierstone : i don't play video games but i know that fun factoid
[2016-12-28 17:23:38] mjones : and have the means to pull it off
[2016-12-28 17:24:01] javierstone : the idea of megaupload with a database thats built off of the block chain is super interesting
[2016-12-28 17:24:17] javierstone : piracy is losing rihgt now and it needs a big tech breakthru like that
[2016-12-28 17:24:43] javierstone : sounds like he might have figured out a way to allow for montesization of media and lowkey piracy thorugh bitcoin
[2016-12-28 17:25:58] javierstone : https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/813902387798687745
[2016-12-28 17:26:36] Tr : this guy is lol
[2016-12-28 17:28:39] javierstone : Tr: ya but have u ever met really sucessful people?
[2016-12-28 17:28:43] javierstone : they are all kinda crazy and lol
[2016-12-28 17:35:41] Tr : anyone who still speaks about 10k btc is delusional
[2016-12-28 17:35:51] startChat : Tr: y
[2016-12-28 17:39:10] Angelika : Tr: you don't have a vision ;-)
[2016-12-28 17:43:18] sleger : we're almost at 1k, and predicted funding rate is <0....
[2016-12-28 17:43:38] javierstone : its proportional to the growth of the last 4 years to say 10k by 2020
[2016-12-28 17:43:49] Tr : thats the problem
[2016-12-28 17:44:12] Tr : you can just draw a growth graph based on price action during first years of btc
[2016-12-28 17:44:15] Tr : thats super simpleminded
[2016-12-28 17:44:50] javierstone : Tr: he's not. he's creating the next megaupload built off of btc and is predicitng that the service will be a big use case for btc causing the price to increase drastically
[2016-12-28 17:45:02] Angelika : sleger: all the newbies that join are shorting
[2016-12-28 17:45:09] Tr : its like saying. look, this baby grew so much during his first 10 years, he will be a giant by his teens
[2016-12-28 17:45:22] Angelika : we will soon go from 820 users back to 720
[2016-12-28 17:45:33] Angelika : 100 liquidated accounts in the next couple of days
[2016-12-28 17:51:46] mjones : lol
[2016-12-28 17:59:44] memes : why would u build a file sharing platform on a blockchain it's total nonsense
[2016-12-28 18:00:03] memes : p2p hosted torrent sites though, that's a good idea
[2016-12-28 18:01:47] Tr : isnt that kind of like Ethereum's SWARM?
[2016-12-28 18:01:58] Tr : i am not sure where innovation there
[2016-12-28 18:12:32] Nerve : XBTZ16 is almost blocked at 953 for 2h
[2016-12-28 18:14:08] mjones : i'm guessing no one is gonna give xbtz16 a premium any more
[2016-12-28 18:19:27] m3s : we getting rekt boiz?
[2016-12-28 18:19:46] narnarfromnarnia : its about to get droopy
[2016-12-28 18:20:44] ABHI7991 : Target?
[2016-12-28 18:20:53] m3s : 920ish
[2016-12-28 18:20:59] m3s : which means 1000 by tomorrow
[2016-12-28 18:24:55] ett1 : im flat
[2016-12-28 18:25:22] m3s : sup fiat, im lancia
[2016-12-28 18:25:39] sleger : flat not fiat
[2016-12-28 18:25:44] ett1 : looking to reenter if it breaks 960 @Tr
[2016-12-28 18:26:03] ett1 : or get in lower 920 or below
[2016-12-28 18:26:03] m3s : ah
[2016-12-28 18:26:13] ett1 : i dont like this sideways
[2016-12-28 18:27:52] ett1 : laptop charger broke few hrs ago. loose pins
[2016-12-28 18:28:04] narnarfromnarnia : low vol and 2h macd crossing down
[2016-12-28 18:28:08] ett1 : have to work from tablet :/
[2016-12-28 18:28:11] narnarfromnarnia : at least a $10 shart potentially
[2016-12-28 18:30:57] rapidtrades : sleger: ur flat now huh?
[2016-12-28 18:31:04] sleger : no long
[2016-12-28 18:31:39] ett1 : same im not
[2016-12-28 18:32:05] ett1 : got 1x btc
[2016-12-28 18:32:35] ett1 : maybe ill short -1x not sure yet
[2016-12-28 18:32:51] ett1 : ill go back in when betternprobability
[2016-12-28 18:34:34] rapidtrades : sleger: don't like i heard what u said to what's his name
[2016-12-28 18:34:49] Tr : ett1 not going to enter shit till its below 800
[2016-12-28 18:34:50] ett1 : think we might have a slude down to 920 by expiry
[2016-12-28 18:35:00] ett1 : then moon
[2016-12-28 18:35:05] sleger : rapidtrades: he who should not be named ?
[2016-12-28 18:35:30] ett1 : Tr: soubt it will go that low
[2016-12-28 18:35:40] ett1 : 870-920 is good entry
[2016-12-28 18:35:45] ett1 : or fomo 860
[2016-12-28 18:35:58] ett1 : anyone agree?
[2016-12-28 18:36:19] ett1 : 960*
[2016-12-28 18:36:23] Tr : ett1 thats if u subscribe to the theory that a move down is just a slight dip, and it will bounce and keep going up forever
[2016-12-28 18:36:46] ett1 : i think it will break ath
[2016-12-28 18:37:14] ett1 : but this leg has lost momentum and looks risky to hold
[2016-12-28 18:37:40] Tr : why should it break ath
[2016-12-28 18:37:44] Tr : why no double top
[2016-12-28 18:37:59] ett1 : becausenit hasndone sonconsistently for years
[2016-12-28 18:38:10] ett1 : and theres a good casenfor it
[2016-12-28 18:38:17] ett1 : fundamentally
[2016-12-28 18:38:31] ett1 : sorry im on a tablet
[2016-12-28 18:39:15] Tr : i just want it go down because it would be awesome drinking tears of cultists in a bear market they would whine about 10k $ bitcoins that were promised to them
[2016-12-28 18:39:29] ett1 : double tops are rare. when btc reaches tops it continuesnpushing new high
[2016-12-28 18:39:38] ett1 : historically
[2016-12-28 18:39:47] ett1 : i wont bet against that
[2016-12-28 18:39:59] Tr : thats not really true
[2016-12-28 18:40:03] Tr : u cant compare the old times
[2016-12-28 18:40:09] BTCDJS : Tr: have you got your chart on log scale?
[2016-12-28 18:40:18] Tr : lol @log scale charts
[2016-12-28 18:40:21] ett1 : whatvelse can you comparecto
[2016-12-28 18:40:21] Tr : thats for fanatics
[2016-12-28 18:40:34] BTCDJS : Tr: k
[2016-12-28 18:40:44] Tr : applying log scale to the btc is the most retarded idea ever
[2016-12-28 18:40:54] BTCDJS : K
[2016-12-28 18:40:59] ett1 : talk t9 someone that was bullish from single digits
[2016-12-28 18:41:13] ett1 : you probably cwme unto btc when it was in hundreds
[2016-12-28 18:41:15] Tr : doesnt mean anything
[2016-12-28 18:41:23] Tr : u can bullish on btc for 10$
[2016-12-28 18:41:32] Tr : u dont have to be bullish on btc for 1000$
[2016-12-28 18:41:57] ett1 : Tr: no its not. a mive from ten to thirty
[2016-12-28 18:42:07] ett1 : is same as 100-300
[2016-12-28 18:42:12] Tr : ett1 somewhat i didnt come that early, but i was there during 266-66 bubble
[2016-12-28 18:42:19] ett1 : or 500-1500
[2016-12-28 18:42:42] ett1 : cant usenlinear scale to graph exponentiql growth
[2016-12-28 18:42:54] Tr : because its not exponent growth
[2016-12-28 18:42:56] Tr : who said it is
[2016-12-28 18:43:07] ett1 : justbobserve
[2016-12-28 18:43:08] narnarfromnarnia : 920
[2016-12-28 18:43:11] narnarfromnarnia : and back up to 1k
[2016-12-28 18:43:13] ett1 : incant convinve you
[2016-12-28 18:43:15] narnarfromnarnia : less go
[2016-12-28 18:43:18] ett1 : good luck
[2016-12-28 18:47:05] sleger : hehe
[2016-12-28 18:51:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2817 @ 955.95
[2016-12-28 18:53:26] aethlios : BTFD.
[2016-12-28 18:57:38] javierstone : crazy days
[2016-12-28 18:59:51] javierstone : we'll breach 1000 within 24 hours
[2016-12-28 19:00:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 400 @ 959.85
[2016-12-28 19:00:57] Nerve : All aboard!!!! Next stop....?????
[2016-12-28 19:01:56] mjones : Pumping
[2016-12-28 19:02:15] mjones : 60 cny from New high
[2016-12-28 19:02:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 5000 @ 1022.41
[2016-12-28 19:02:20] wurstgelee : new highs inbound
[2016-12-28 19:02:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 6 @ 961.41
[2016-12-28 19:03:15] aaaaa : short it!!
[2016-12-28 19:03:19] aaaaa : it is a trap!
[2016-12-28 19:04:11] halloz : its a tarp
[2016-12-28 19:05:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 8315 @ 962.34
[2016-12-28 19:05:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 962.43
[2016-12-28 19:05:07] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2016-12-28 19:06:12] halloz : Weee
[2016-12-28 19:07:03] aethlios : shortes got scammed again by whales, overleveraged longs scammed too.
[2016-12-28 19:08:36] Nerve : Tchuu tchuuuu
[2016-12-28 19:10:41] Nerve : Pump is over for now
[2016-12-28 19:12:11] BTCDJS : get in while its cheap
[2016-12-28 19:12:33] javierstone : sixty nineeeee
[2016-12-28 19:12:57] javierstone : 69420 all day errday
[2016-12-28 19:13:08] javierstone : 6969 will be a good price
[2016-12-28 19:13:26] aaaaa : there it go again
[2016-12-28 19:13:48] aaaaa : pump it
[2016-12-28 19:13:59] halloz : Weee
[2016-12-28 19:14:56] justinlooking : and the word was with rekt, and the word was rekt
[2016-12-28 19:17:13] sleger : thank you all for the swap at a nice discount
[2016-12-28 19:17:33] justinlooking : such value
[2016-12-28 19:18:23] aethlios : flash pump to 1,000
[2016-12-28 19:20:48] aaaaa : buy the dip
[2016-12-28 19:21:08] justinlooking : triple word score
[2016-12-28 19:22:40] imapotato : pump after failed dip?
[2016-12-28 19:22:57] Nerve : No
[2016-12-28 19:23:21] Nerve : its just a little shy ??
[2016-12-28 19:24:08] Nerve : Here we go again
[2016-12-28 19:24:28] imapotato : up
[2016-12-28 19:25:06] imapotato : 6900 china
[2016-12-28 19:25:22] Nerve : Yes
[2016-12-28 19:25:33] rapidtrades : this is bullshit of epic proportions
[2016-12-28 19:25:42] Nerve : we are going to the fuckinng 1k finaly
[2016-12-28 19:25:58] aethlios : φινεχ 28 αςαυ
[2016-12-28 19:26:02] sleger : Nerve: no
[2016-12-28 19:26:04] imapotato : Right now, you think?
[2016-12-28 19:26:06] aethlios : finex 28 usd away
[2016-12-28 19:26:18] imapotato : I'm not sure if this failed-dip pump will go all the way to 1000
[2016-12-28 19:26:19] imapotato : maybe
[2016-12-28 19:26:35] Nerve : Not from 1 shot
[2016-12-28 19:26:38] narnarfromnarnia : usually when i see those 100k orders top or bottom and some rekts
[2016-12-28 19:26:39] justinlooking : how many 965?
[2016-12-28 19:26:41] narnarfromnarnia : its signal reverse
[2016-12-28 19:27:30] imapotato : china actually 6900 now
[2016-12-28 19:27:38] imapotato : I lied last time, 6899 XD
[2016-12-28 19:27:47] thomaskikansha : new high ffinex
[2016-12-28 19:27:51] MrRGnome : Anyone looking for a surreal experience, grab yourself a smoke and a drink and watch the price action while listening to "Take Five"
[2016-12-28 19:27:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5110 @ 966.40
[2016-12-28 19:27:57] MrRGnome : I'm loving this shit.
[2016-12-28 19:28:25] imapotato : I'm full retard long, scarily enough.
[2016-12-28 19:28:40] imapotato : Got wiped out when bitmex waaaaaay over-corrected with the dip :'(
[2016-12-28 19:28:44] MrRGnome : Apparently full savant
[2016-12-28 19:28:55] imapotato : Back in with a new deposit, going to make it up on the post-dip pump I hope
[2016-12-28 19:29:24] MrRGnome : ahh shit, yeah never go full retard - also known as 100x
[2016-12-28 19:29:41] MrRGnome : really anything over 25x
[2016-12-28 19:30:00] imapotato : Well
[2016-12-28 19:30:09] imapotato : 40% retard
[2016-12-28 19:30:16] imapotato : Just covered a bit, now 30%
[2016-12-28 19:30:42] MrRGnome : good job, keep trading your way back up - just watch out there may not be a floro underneath you
[2016-12-28 19:30:59] justinlooking : https://api.gemini.com/v1/auction/btcusd/history vol back to 600 last night, wasn't even a school night
[2016-12-28 19:31:37] thiago : 500x is fun
[2016-12-28 19:32:11] oladpeter : We taking it to 1k tonight
[2016-12-28 19:32:20] imapotato : BitMEX_Wally: There seems to be a minor bug. Once in a while, clicking an order in the book does not update the quantity in the Place Order panel. It updates the price, but the quantity remains the same. Clicking again fixes it, and it only happens randomly like 1/25th of the time.
[2016-12-28 19:32:29] justinlooking : wo kann man 500x ?
[2016-12-28 19:32:36] oladpeter : long long long
[2016-12-28 19:32:50] imapotato : finex taking a breather, stamp catching up. huobi pushing up
[2016-12-28 19:32:52] sleger : imapotato: click on the size and not on price
[2016-12-28 19:33:16] imapotato : sleger: ooooohhhhhhh, I see
[2016-12-28 19:33:22] sleger : imapotato: dont lie
[2016-12-28 19:33:25] sleger : potatoes cant see
[2016-12-28 19:33:27] imapotato : That is not the functionality I would expect, but it makes sense now. Gracias.
[2016-12-28 19:33:30] imapotato : Potatoes have eyes
[2016-12-28 19:33:40] mjones : damn new highs for finex and almost stamp
[2016-12-28 19:33:59] imapotato : BitMEX_Wally: never mind, not the functionality I expected but it functions correctly
[2016-12-28 19:34:41] imapotato : yeah... if finex could just, have volume, that would be great
[2016-12-28 19:34:47] imapotato : And I need you to come in on Sunday, yeah....
[2016-12-28 19:37:25] rapidtrades : still waiting for a vali reason for this rally
[2016-12-28 19:37:34] rapidtrades : forgot this > D
[2016-12-28 19:37:35] mjones : kim dot com
[2016-12-28 19:37:37] mjones : etf
[2016-12-28 19:37:39] imapotato : rapidtrades: the rally validates itself
[2016-12-28 19:37:43] mjones : china
[2016-12-28 19:37:48] rapidtrades : thank u idiots
[2016-12-28 19:37:49] narnarfromnarnia : its just gonna do this touch here and drop i think
[2016-12-28 19:37:50] mjones : pick your reason
[2016-12-28 19:37:54] narnarfromnarnia : 940 is strong though
[2016-12-28 19:38:00] narnarfromnarnia : but maybe 920 will come?
[2016-12-28 19:38:13] rapidtrades : etf is not here yet, kit.com is a MORON and china is just a word
[2016-12-28 19:38:33] sleger : rapidtrades is 2 words, so what
[2016-12-28 19:38:44] rapidtrades : kim.com can't move 5 bil, he's a joke
[2016-12-28 19:38:49] rapidtrades : fat lardass
[2016-12-28 19:38:56] imapotato : ooh got em
[2016-12-28 19:38:58] sleger : he can move 500 pounds
[2016-12-28 19:39:07] rapidtrades : true dat
[2016-12-28 19:39:17] mjones : 0kcoin has 1936 BTC above 6900 CNY in support
[2016-12-28 19:39:28] mjones : they got the funds to push this to highs never before thought possible
[2016-12-28 19:39:36] imapotato : so do it
[2016-12-28 19:39:46] mjones : ok let me get huobi ceo on the phone
[2016-12-28 19:40:04] rullwull : currently we reached a new fibo on the weekly which is 966,6 if the retracement starts than we can go back to the previous fibs 795. BTW the next fibo on weekly is 1068
[2016-12-28 19:40:06] ett1 : ofcourse i am long!
[2016-12-28 19:40:09] imapotato : "hey.... could you just, move your customers orders higher? thanks"
[2016-12-28 19:40:34] narnarfromnarnia : rullwull: down to 795 really?
[2016-12-28 19:40:48] narnarfromnarnia : that would be nuts
[2016-12-28 19:40:57] imapotato : 795 could be rally killer, back to the slooooow climb
[2016-12-28 19:41:24] BTCDJS : ett1: sure you don't wanna be short?
[2016-12-28 19:41:34] rapidtrades : narnarfromnarnia: nuts? we were there 1 weeek ago
[2016-12-28 19:41:42] rullwull : if the correction starts than it can reach the previous fibo 795, i would say fibonacci works perfectly in crypto
[2016-12-28 19:41:49] imapotato : 1 week = 1 year in rally time
[2016-12-28 19:41:52] narnarfromnarnia : rapidtrades: i know but watching the rekts
[2016-12-28 19:41:56] breadfan : jesus was it really one week, wow
[2016-12-28 19:42:01] rapidtrades : cool
[2016-12-28 19:42:13] imapotato : huobi climbing again
[2016-12-28 19:42:25] imapotato : hold your butts
[2016-12-28 19:42:30] bubble : hey guys the the next funding minus 0.026 % this means what?
[2016-12-28 19:42:48] MrRGnome : shorts pay longs
[2016-12-28 19:42:49] sleger : the opposite of +0.026%
[2016-12-28 19:43:00] BTCDJS : I love how nobody knows what their doing but they have some vague idea and then get excited
[2016-12-28 19:43:11] zach719 : ^ true
[2016-12-28 19:43:12] imapotato : -0.026% = (-1) * 0.026%
[2016-12-28 19:43:16] MrRGnome : BTCDJS: It really scares me how out of their depth 90% of the users here seem to be
[2016-12-28 19:43:19] bubble : Just go with the flow LOL
[2016-12-28 19:43:39] narnarfromnarnia : and back to 950 and dream is gone
[2016-12-28 19:43:50] imapotato : stamp 969
[2016-12-28 19:43:57] thomaskikansha : new high stamp
[2016-12-28 19:44:00] rapidtrades : MrRGnome: why does it scare u? where do u think profits come here?
[2016-12-28 19:44:11] sleger : this dump was terrible !! We lost 4 hours
[2016-12-28 19:44:16] rapidtrades : Magic Market Fairy?
[2016-12-28 19:44:18] BTCDJS : MrRGnome: meh. what you gona do
[2016-12-28 19:44:24] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: It scares me because it lends an irrationality and exuberance tot he market that can be difficult to predict, I also fear for these shmucks funds
[2016-12-28 19:44:38] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: she brings all the boys to the yard
[2016-12-28 19:44:58] rapidtrades : MrRGnome: meh...we're gonna fomo then domo, just like always in crypto
[2016-12-28 19:45:05] MrRGnome : true dat
[2016-12-28 19:45:12] narnarfromnarnia : whats domo
[2016-12-28 19:45:13] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-28 19:45:20] imapotato : origato mr roboto
[2016-12-28 19:45:28] BTCDJS : narnarfromnarnia: what you'll experience over and over
[2016-12-28 19:45:45] rapidtrades : :(
[2016-12-28 19:47:15] MrRGnome : Yeha I'm curious too, "dump of missing out"?
[2016-12-28 19:47:32] imapotato : hodl
[2016-12-28 19:47:44] mjones : 25 cny away from new china high and they decide to dump instead
[2016-12-28 19:48:34] zach719 : really tho
[2016-12-28 19:48:40] zach719 : they were so close
[2016-12-28 19:48:47] MrRGnome : bitmex orderbook lagging out on me
[2016-12-28 19:48:54] BTCDJS : Stop losses. very importante
[2016-12-28 19:49:07] mjones : it tends to do that when users get above 700 MrRGnome
[2016-12-28 19:49:20] imapotato : I left my half retard long. Doesn't look like post-dip pump
[2016-12-28 19:49:25] mjones : once 141 users get rekt and leave then things will be fast again
[2016-12-28 19:50:31] MrRGnome : Makes me think bitmex is all running on one box that they can't just throw additional instances up when there is high demand
[2016-12-28 19:51:29] imapotato : How does one parallelize an order book, though?
[2016-12-28 19:51:34] mjones : i tried to warn them they should be prepared
[2016-12-28 19:51:56] imapotato : They could have a box per book on back-end servers, then distribute the front-end load among many boxes.
[2016-12-28 19:52:04] mjones : they should be making lots with this volume
[2016-12-28 19:52:21] imapotato : Though... Even then, they'd have to parallelize balances to validate orders with books.
[2016-12-28 19:52:34] imapotato : Not exactly simple, if possible.
[2016-12-28 19:53:09] MrRGnome : Yeah not a simple architecture for sure
[2016-12-28 19:53:39] imapotato : But honestly. For all of their calculations, they need all of the data in one place.
[2016-12-28 19:54:17] imapotato : You can't determine when to liquidate, how to liquidate somebody, etc. unless you can see all of their orders in the books, their balance, the other books, etc.
[2016-12-28 19:54:40] MrRGnome : I'm not convinced of that. You most certainly need the data to be synchronous as well as fidelity of transactions and order
[2016-12-28 19:54:47] sleger : thats no reason for lagging with 700 users
[2016-12-28 19:55:18] imapotato : I'm sure there are ways to improve and certain things that can be distributed.
[2016-12-28 19:56:21] justinlooking : i can't remember what they said backend was written in
[2016-12-28 19:56:35] sleger : mysql
[2016-12-28 19:56:47] justinlooking : lol um no
[2016-12-28 19:56:52] imapotato : e,g, chat can obviously be moved to whatever crap server with no ties to other stuff other than authentication
[2016-12-28 19:56:52] sleger : or some other DB
[2016-12-28 19:57:05] justinlooking : it was credibly obscure
[2016-12-28 19:57:12] MrRGnome : chat is just an irc channel
[2016-12-28 19:57:16] sleger : its some db, not obscure
[2016-12-28 19:57:23] rapidtrades : IRC???
[2016-12-28 19:57:30] MrRGnome : Yeah.
[2016-12-28 19:57:33] sleger : kdb
[2016-12-28 19:57:44] justinlooking : something between R and matlab,
[2016-12-28 19:58:00] justinlooking : or maybe i am miles off
[2016-12-28 19:58:02] rapidtrades : sleger: what should they do?
[2016-12-28 19:58:21] sleger : make it faaaastaaar
[2016-12-28 19:58:29] rapidtrades : how?
[2016-12-28 19:58:43] sleger : by removing slowness
[2016-12-28 19:58:50] MrRGnome : faster and able to scale are almost two different things
[2016-12-28 19:59:01] MrRGnome : many scaling solutions would introduce perceptible latancy
[2016-12-28 19:59:45] sleger : perceptible no
[2016-12-28 19:59:51] imapotato : Yes
[2016-12-28 19:59:54] imapotato : Possibly.
[2016-12-28 19:59:59] rapidtrades : perceptible, I like that word
[2016-12-28 20:00:00] sleger : no
[2016-12-28 20:00:08] rapidtrades : yeah it's nice
[2016-12-28 20:00:10] rapidtrades : perceptible
[2016-12-28 20:00:30] MrRGnome : sleger: It's plausible. remember that perceptible latancy is in the range of less than 20ms
[2016-12-28 20:00:31] imapotato : So, are we going to create the TrollboxExchange, gentleman? Seems like we have the talent.
[2016-12-28 20:00:45] sleger : MrRGnome: 20millis is an eternity in computer time
[2016-12-28 20:01:04] sleger : imapotato: sorry cant eat only potatoes
[2016-12-28 20:02:26] MrRGnome : It's a long time, but consider network and overhead time introducing additional hops, or having to double check things like authentication. Just having a load balancer optimally placed can add several milliseconds.
[2016-12-28 20:02:38] MrRGnome : rt
[2016-12-28 20:02:51] sleger : no, communication within same network are ~20 micros
[2016-12-28 20:03:04] sleger : i know what im talking about sorry
[2016-12-28 20:03:07] MrRGnome : If you're sure
[2016-12-28 20:03:12] MrRGnome : ont he same data network
[2016-12-28 20:03:18] MrRGnome : in the same building
[2016-12-28 20:03:36] MrRGnome : Ad I design these kind of architectures for a living so I also know what i am talking about
[2016-12-28 20:03:40] sleger : they're not going to put one bitmex server in a different country to speed things up dummy
[2016-12-28 20:03:53] MrRGnome : They will have to for their cdn
[2016-12-28 20:03:57] ett1 : guys bitcoin will not retrace
[2016-12-28 20:04:09] ett1 : i was wrong to exit
[2016-12-28 20:04:20] sleger : MrRGnome: maybe you work for clients that have different requirements so it's ok to do things half assed
[2016-12-28 20:04:54] MrRGnome : So your opinion is that a CDN does not require nodes in targeted demographics?
[2016-12-28 20:05:01] MrRGnome : And doing it in such a way is "half assed"?
[2016-12-28 20:05:04] ett1 : i have become a short term bear. lifes tough being theboptimist
[2016-12-28 20:05:21] sleger : they have an exchange, an exchange is in one location, look at cme, nyse, nasdaq etc...
[2016-12-28 20:05:25] sdtgwe56 : what does ROE stand for?
[2016-12-28 20:05:33] sleger : cme doesnt bother having servers in africa dummy
[2016-12-28 20:05:42] ett1 : return on equity (marfin)
[2016-12-28 20:05:46] sdtgwe56 : thx
[2016-12-28 20:05:47] MrRGnome : It does if it serves customers in Africa, dummy
[2016-12-28 20:05:48] ett1 : margin
[2016-12-28 20:05:54] rapidtrades : sdtgwe56: MAYBE THEY SHOULD?
[2016-12-28 20:05:54] BitMEX_Sam : Regarding engine latency, we are working on putting the engine onto faster hardware, but we are working on benchmarks that more accurately reflect real-world load so we can make the best decision on that into the future
[2016-12-28 20:06:02] justinlooking : sam
[2016-12-28 20:06:04] justinlooking : what u write it in?
[2016-12-28 20:06:08] BitMEX_Sam : We scale our servers out horizontally with the exception of the engine, as margin calculations etc are inherently serial.
[2016-12-28 20:06:13] BitMEX_Sam : The engine is kdb+/q.
[2016-12-28 20:06:17] justinlooking : kdb!!!
[2016-12-28 20:06:18] justinlooking : ty
[2016-12-28 20:06:24] sleger : justinlooking: i said it 5 min ago
[2016-12-28 20:06:42] ett1 : i think we all know which way this will break
[2016-12-28 20:06:51] rapidtrades : sleger: it's kdb+/q tho, not simple kdb
[2016-12-28 20:07:03] sleger : rapidtrades: dude you dont even know what it means
[2016-12-28 20:07:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 70 @ 6879.9
[2016-12-28 20:08:20] rapidtrades : sleger: I know it means ur full of it
[2016-12-28 20:09:06] sleger : rapidtrades: dont make me ban you a 4th time
[2016-12-28 20:09:30] rapidtrades : it would be the 3rd :)
[2016-12-28 20:10:56] sleger : "MrRGnome: It does if it serves customers in Africa, dummy" <= have you heard of internet ? Bitmex doesnt need to offer connectivity in africa for african people to connect to it
[2016-12-28 20:12:24] MrRGnome : sleger: You really don't' understand latency do you? What I've described in a CDN is a very very common practice
[2016-12-28 20:13:05] MrRGnome : Any content or resources that you can possibly cache, or do redundantly, you do locally because the latency will be much better
[2016-12-28 20:13:40] justinlooking : exchange data cache?
[2016-12-28 20:13:49] justinlooking : did u get hit with the rapid stick?
[2016-12-28 20:14:05] MrRGnome : Not the exchange data I imagine, but htere are I'm sure tons of resources on any site that are best served by CDN
[2016-12-28 20:14:29] MrRGnome : At least not the live exchange data
[2016-12-28 20:14:47] BitMEX_Sam : We use a CDN in testnet but it is not a performance panacea, it is only useful for static data, of which we have very little
[2016-12-28 20:14:57] MrRGnome : ^^ exactly
[2016-12-28 20:15:05] BitMEX_Sam : Cache times for dynamic data are usually zero so there's not a lot of utility in it.
[2016-12-28 20:15:15] MrRGnome : dynamic data != cached data
[2016-12-28 20:15:42] Nerve : Xbth17 is dropping....
[2016-12-28 20:21:31] justinlooking : so what hardware is it moving to??
[2016-12-28 20:21:37] justinlooking : gory details plz :)
[2016-12-28 20:25:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 270 @ 0.008020
[2016-12-28 20:27:43] imapotato : test
[2016-12-28 20:29:41] sleger : imapotato: yep still a potato
[2016-12-28 20:29:50] imapotato : writing a bot
[2016-12-28 20:30:20] sleger : a chatting bot ?
[2016-12-28 20:30:30] imapotato : and trading
[2016-12-28 20:30:40] imapotato : just a market maker
[2016-12-28 20:31:32] sleger : if you need super slow market access you can ask a Gnome to set up your infra
[2016-12-28 20:35:36] MrRGnome : Maybe you should take some time and look up some basic web infrastructure techniques @sleger
[2016-12-28 20:35:46] MrRGnome : Turns out they don't really apply to botting for the most part
[2016-12-28 20:36:00] sleger : no thanks, my people do that well
[2016-12-28 20:36:18] sleger : of course they dont apply to trading
[2016-12-28 20:36:28] MrRGnome : Your poor little ego is just all torn up that you don't know something, why is that such a piss off to you?
[2016-12-28 20:36:33] MrRGnome : You know tons of things I don't It's a HUGe space
[2016-12-28 20:37:30] sleger : yes and that too i know better
[2016-12-28 20:38:12] MrRGnome : Apparently you don't though, maybe in some areas. I'm sure you could teach me a thing or two about F#
[2016-12-28 20:38:22] MrRGnome : But you are clearly out of your element talking about architecture
[2016-12-28 20:39:04] MrRGnome : You literally scoffed at the CONCEPT of a CDN
[2016-12-28 20:39:43] sleger : exchanges dont need cdn
[2016-12-28 20:39:50] sleger : hft doesnt need cdn
[2016-12-28 20:39:54] BitMEX_Sam : Agreed, we don't really need a CDN.