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[2016-12-28 03:56:38] BitMEX_Greg : deeprocks: This is not a fee, this is a funding rate exchanges between longs and shorts. If you are short then you earn this rate
[2016-12-28 03:56:55] deeprocks : BitMEX_Greg: XD my mistake
[2016-12-28 03:57:08] shery : last 2 mints
[2016-12-28 03:57:19] MrRGnome : BitMEX_Greg: That distinction isn't really useful if you're paying it.
[2016-12-28 03:57:28] MikeHunt : so do i add 0.375% to the 0.75% to get total "fee" ?
[2016-12-28 03:57:30] paniktrade : will the fee liquidate you if ur 100x?
[2016-12-28 03:57:48] Angelika : paniktrade: no
[2016-12-28 03:57:51] immackay : paniktrade: it raises your liquidation price
[2016-12-28 03:57:58] paniktrade : ah ok
[2016-12-28 03:58:01] BitMEX_Greg : MrRGnome: It is your choice if you want to pay it or not. If you want to trade the future instead then you do not need to pay it
[2016-12-28 03:58:04] shery : 1 miny
[2016-12-28 03:58:12] Angelika : MikeHunt: funding is separate
[2016-12-28 03:58:13] paniktrade : so it will if youre close to ur liq price
[2016-12-28 03:58:28] paniktrade : no funding fees on weeklys / quarts tho amirite?
[2016-12-28 03:58:43] immackay : yup
[2016-12-28 03:58:44] BitMEX_Greg : paniktrade: The funding is only charged on the XBTUSD swap
[2016-12-28 03:59:09] shery : 50 sec
[2016-12-28 03:59:18] paniktrade : ok hmm then why trade XTBUSD swap and not weeklies or quarts where there are no fees?
[2016-12-28 03:59:58] BitMEX_Greg : paniktrade: You are paying a basis when you trade the futures
[2016-12-28 04:00:23] tuttyking : wow
[2016-12-28 04:00:26] ett1 : lol
[2016-12-28 04:00:27] paniktrade : no idea what a basis is tho
[2016-12-28 04:00:29] paniktrade : ouch
[2016-12-28 04:00:30] paniktrade : #rek
[2016-12-28 04:00:32] paniktrade : #rekt
[2016-12-28 04:00:38] ayy_lmao : how bad
[2016-12-28 04:00:41] BitMEX_Greg : Basis is the difference between the spot price and the futures price
[2016-12-28 04:01:17] BitMEX_Greg : In bitcoin the futures price tends to be higher so we say it has a positive basis, or that the market is in contango
[2016-12-28 04:02:15] paniktrade : BitMEX_Greg: but that is if u hold until settlement no? if i do a trade that is around 10 hours long wont i get the same profit % as on perpetual swaps but minus the funding fee?
[2016-12-28 04:02:34] paniktrade : assuming that both rise the same amount
[2016-12-28 04:02:43] BitMEX_Greg : That's a large assumption to make
[2016-12-28 04:02:57] MikeHunt : whats the spikes out of line from other exchanges?
[2016-12-28 04:03:45] paniktrade : BitMEX_Greg: is it tho? price structure looks the same to me on weeklies and p swaps.. anyways ill have to experiment here abit
[2016-12-28 04:05:12] narnarfromnarnia : bots changing to selling position?
[2016-12-28 04:05:39] paniktrade : let me ask
[2016-12-28 04:05:50] paniktrade : "hey bots wat ur position?"
[2016-12-28 04:05:53] paniktrade : hope they reply
[2016-12-28 04:06:00] BitMEX_Greg : paniktrade: Yes its a very large assumption to make. Futures don't tend to trade 1 to 1 with spot, it may move more it may move less
[2016-12-28 04:06:04] narnarfromnarnia : "epileptic"
[2016-12-28 04:06:16] dodic : there is only one way to speak to bots. orders
[2016-12-28 04:06:57] paniktrade : BitMEX_Greg: ok thanks for the info
[2016-12-28 04:07:35] BitMEX_Greg : paniktrade: Np, but yeah if the funding irks you, try the futures. It may be a more manageable product if you are looking for holding a position
[2016-12-28 04:07:58] imapotato : Stamp above finex? Wtf?
[2016-12-28 04:08:24] dodic : low volume finex?
[2016-12-28 04:08:40] paniktrade : BitMEX_Greg: yea i think im gna split my orders on all three to see which ones work best
[2016-12-28 04:08:42] dodic : whoa still negative premium
[2016-12-28 04:08:42] paniktrade : thx :)
[2016-12-28 04:08:54] narnarfromnarnia : dumpy
[2016-12-28 04:09:26] BitMEX_Greg : paniktrade: Yeah its actually an interesting trade in itself, Futures vs the swap. I.e. if you think the futures basis % is too low then a good trade would be to buy it and then sell the swap. Earn the swap funding in the meantime
[2016-12-28 04:09:38] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: aye
[2016-12-28 04:10:04] paniktrade : BitMEX_Greg: exactly what i was thinkng :D
[2016-12-28 04:10:14] paniktrade : narnarfromnarnia: youve been sayin that for a while now XD
[2016-12-28 04:12:05] deeprocks : what price does trigger price use?
[2016-12-28 04:13:29] BitMEX_Greg : deeprocks: You can set it, see the box under `Available Balance`? You can use `Last`, `Index`, or `Mark`
[2016-12-28 04:14:15] deeprocks : BitMEX_Greg: thanks!
[2016-12-28 04:14:53] BitMEX_Greg : deeprocks: Also pay attention to the `Close on Trigger`, if checked then the order will ONLY execute if you have a position to close
[2016-12-28 04:15:13] deeprocks : yeah i read that
[2016-12-28 04:15:21] deeprocks : ty
[2016-12-28 04:23:11] javierstone : fuck off you motherfucking sharters
[2016-12-28 04:23:30] narnarfromnarnia : wait for rekts
[2016-12-28 04:23:34] javierstone : get off my dick
[2016-12-28 04:25:13] javierstone : https://twitter.com/chodeshart
[2016-12-28 04:25:42] halloz : o-o
[2016-12-28 04:25:47] halloz : ok
[2016-12-28 04:25:55] javierstone : 957.51
[2016-12-28 04:26:10] MikeHunt : javierstone: rly?
[2016-12-28 04:26:14] narnarfromnarnia : what's mark price at here now?
[2016-12-28 04:26:20] javierstone : MikeHunt: wud?
[2016-12-28 04:26:21] imapotato : $moon
[2016-12-28 04:26:26] MrRGnome : A lot of people who just discovered funding shorting now to get it
[2016-12-28 04:26:29] narnarfromnarnia : how to see that when no pos open
[2016-12-28 04:26:35] MrRGnome : About to get wrecked by the next leg up
[2016-12-28 04:27:05] javierstone : narnarfromnarnia: because the market price is so much lower than the index
[2016-12-28 04:27:09] ett1 : MrRGnome: ye swaps are better now
[2016-12-28 04:27:19] ett1 : premium too high on futures
[2016-12-28 04:27:26] imapotato : I have a new strategy.
[2016-12-28 04:27:29] ett1 : it will fall
[2016-12-28 04:27:31] narnarfromnarnia : ya i think long squeezer
[2016-12-28 04:27:36] narnarfromnarnia : then fall
[2016-12-28 04:27:43] narnarfromnarnia : or mini fall and hold
[2016-12-28 04:27:46] narnarfromnarnia : and squeeze again
[2016-12-28 04:27:48] MrRGnome : I think another leg up.
[2016-12-28 04:27:52] narnarfromnarnia : death grip
[2016-12-28 04:28:06] MikeHunt : before ive seen it go up across and down violently
[2016-12-28 04:28:27] javierstone : this one time
[2016-12-28 04:28:28] MikeHunt : (from this sort of pattern near peak)
[2016-12-28 04:28:39] javierstone : great
[2016-12-28 04:28:41] MikeHunt : well ive been doing this for a few years and u dont forget sights like that
[2016-12-28 04:28:58] javierstone : dude they were quoting you earlier in how wrong you were
[2016-12-28 04:29:16] MikeHunt : u mean u and ur longbumchumbs?
[2016-12-28 04:29:55] javierstone : yer a knob
[2016-12-28 04:30:49] MrRGnome : MikeHunt: You must be a professional trade just like rapidtrades
[2016-12-28 04:31:39] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: im just a lowly basement dweller
[2016-12-28 04:31:58] MrRGnome : Yeah, like I said, a professional trader just like rapidtrades! =)
[2016-12-28 04:32:03] MikeHunt : haha
[2016-12-28 04:33:26] deeprocks : have we reached the peak for now or will it rise more any ideas?"
[2016-12-28 04:33:36] narnarfromnarnia : 950
[2016-12-28 04:33:45] narnarfromnarnia : new support or top
[2016-12-28 04:33:47] narnarfromnarnia : for daily
[2016-12-28 04:34:01] narnarfromnarnia : daily in 2hrs
[2016-12-28 04:34:02] dodic : will fluctuate
[2016-12-28 04:34:08] dodic : but until bad news
[2016-12-28 04:34:14] dodic : uptrend
[2016-12-28 04:34:28] dodic : china has insatiable apetitie for btc
[2016-12-28 04:34:45] MikeHunt : i think we are in rising wedge in 1hour timeframe
[2016-12-28 04:35:04] MikeHunt : nearing top trendline so it needs to correct in order to continue
[2016-12-28 04:35:40] MikeHunt : i correction to ~6600-6700 would allow a further climb to ath
[2016-12-28 04:35:46] narnarfromnarnia : stamp leading
[2016-12-28 04:35:54] dodic : it has been insanely rockety
[2016-12-28 04:36:03] l3f : BitMEX_Greg: can we get a XMRH17?
[2016-12-28 04:36:04] shery : stamp 955
[2016-12-28 04:36:40] narnarfromnarnia : ya leading
[2016-12-28 04:37:58] MikeHunt : china did invent the rocket
[2016-12-28 04:38:06] MikeHunt : just the landing part they had issues with
[2016-12-28 04:38:16] deeprocks : MikeHunt: hahaha
[2016-12-28 04:38:28] ett1 : lol nice
[2016-12-28 04:38:33] dodic : MikeHunt: well done
[2016-12-28 04:40:30] javierstone : squeezey squeezey
[2016-12-28 04:41:07] javierstone : coming for them shitz
[2016-12-28 04:41:43] dodic : i've noticed way less REKTs since Christmas
[2016-12-28 04:41:47] dodic : Are we learing?
[2016-12-28 04:41:56] dodic : Was REKTmas enough?
[2016-12-28 04:42:13] l3f : -funding from all the shorts
[2016-12-28 04:42:14] l3f : lol
[2016-12-28 04:42:19] l3f : pay interest to short now
[2016-12-28 04:42:24] l3f : #rekt
[2016-12-28 04:42:51] dodic : hah
[2016-12-28 04:42:59] dodic : always interesting
[2016-12-28 04:43:29] MikeHunt : rektmas was tough
[2016-12-28 04:43:34] MikeHunt : totally forgot the china factor
[2016-12-28 04:43:40] dodic : I almost got cleaned out
[2016-12-28 04:43:41] MikeHunt : big mistake ;)
[2016-12-28 04:43:46] MikeHunt : :( *
[2016-12-28 04:44:05] javierstone : 60k gets us to 954.50
[2016-12-28 04:44:05] MikeHunt : i didnt loose anything, just lost out on getting 1k
[2016-12-28 04:44:14] javierstone : so thin
[2016-12-28 04:44:16] javierstone : run train
[2016-12-28 04:45:27] javierstone : rocket ship coming
[2016-12-28 04:45:33] javierstone : exchanges are catching up with cny and its noticing
[2016-12-28 04:45:36] javierstone : adios sharters
[2016-12-28 04:45:51] imapotato : why is finex stuck?
[2016-12-28 04:45:53] imapotato : it's a graveyard
[2016-12-28 04:45:56] imapotato : stamp pumping, finex zero
[2016-12-28 04:46:05] MrRGnome : USD is climbing to make up for the price disparity, which is a good sign for another leg up
[2016-12-28 04:46:06] javierstone : spread is less than 30 on most
[2016-12-28 04:46:14] javierstone : 958
[2016-12-28 04:46:17] javierstone : lol shorts getting rekt
[2016-12-28 04:46:21] javierstone : 5 3 2
[2016-12-28 04:46:23] javierstone : 1
[2016-12-28 04:46:42] javierstone : ??
[2016-12-28 04:46:43] narnarfromnarnia : here comes rekts
[2016-12-28 04:46:46] dodic : AW NO!
[2016-12-28 04:46:47] narnarfromnarnia : weee
[2016-12-28 04:46:52] dodic : I ordered way too much!
[2016-12-28 04:47:01] narnarfromnarnia : mark price gonna be 960
[2016-12-28 04:47:06] narnarfromnarnia : kaboomb
[2016-12-28 04:47:12] MrRGnome : dodic: you fat finger an order?
[2016-12-28 04:47:18] dodic : >.< yes
[2016-12-28 04:47:22] narnarfromnarnia : ive done that
[2016-12-28 04:47:28] dodic : ahh lol
[2016-12-28 04:47:29] MrRGnome : Me too
[2016-12-28 04:47:31] narnarfromnarnia : hover thumbed
[2016-12-28 04:47:34] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: i dont see anything hapening
[2016-12-28 04:47:39] dodic : extra 0 lol
[2016-12-28 04:47:46] MrRGnome : ahh shit that's a bad move
[2016-12-28 04:48:15] dodic : *I'll fix this*
[2016-12-28 04:48:19] MrRGnome : I've accidentally bought instead of sold, worked out though as my original call was wrong
[2016-12-28 04:48:22] dodic : *I totaly knw what im doing*
[2016-12-28 04:48:28] ett1 : what di u mean fat finger. too big? market exit?
[2016-12-28 04:48:42] dodic : order of magnitude too big lol
[2016-12-28 04:49:11] MikeHunt : upside down triangle = upside down pentagram
[2016-12-28 04:49:12] ett1 : MrRGnome: I was on finex. Had like 95%in btc & 5% long LTC
[2016-12-28 04:49:19] ett1 : meant to exit my smallt LTC
[2016-12-28 04:49:33] ett1 : chose "SELL ALL" on LTCBTC
[2016-12-28 04:49:37] ett1 : or something
[2016-12-28 04:49:43] ett1 : i wanted to exit the LTC
[2016-12-28 04:49:55] ett1 : but sold all my BTC for lLTC instead
[2016-12-28 04:50:06] ett1 : into a falling crashing market
[2016-12-28 04:50:08] dodic : ett1: o no
[2016-12-28 04:50:24] ett1 : really volatile. i wanted to wait to get out at breakeven
[2016-12-28 04:50:32] ett1 : but it keps runnign sown lol
[2016-12-28 04:50:47] ett1 : cut my losses at 40% or so. 1 day
[2016-12-28 04:50:52] ett1 : no leverage
[2016-12-28 04:51:08] ett1 : that was my stupidest fat finger
[2016-12-28 04:53:08] ett1 : BTW guys i think using leverage slider is much better than cross
[2016-12-28 04:53:21] ett1 : gives you more control and forces you to be aware of you SL
[2016-12-28 04:53:33] dodic : yeah. I'm suddenly inclined to agree
[2016-12-28 04:53:59] ett1 : i spend to much time trying to do mental arithmetic to work out my risk with cross
[2016-12-28 04:54:20] ett1 : margin is a bit clearer to me
[2016-12-28 04:55:45] halloz : btfd
[2016-12-28 04:55:59] imapotato : tiny dip
[2016-12-28 04:56:00] imapotato : buy it
[2016-12-28 04:56:40] dodic : the funding next time O.o
[2016-12-28 04:59:42] ett1 : we should all be holding longs anyway
[2016-12-28 05:05:18] javierstone : lunch is over
[2016-12-28 05:06:54] zach719 : anybody got an idea where this is going
[2016-12-28 05:07:00] zach719 : im debating going back in
[2016-12-28 05:07:06] zach719 : sold at 952...
[2016-12-28 05:07:09] MikeHunt : rising wedge in 1hr timeframe
[2016-12-28 05:07:10] ett1 : to infinity
[2016-12-28 05:07:12] ett1 : and beyond
[2016-12-28 05:07:26] MikeHunt : correction to 6600-6700 then to moon
[2016-12-28 05:07:28] MikeHunt : is my prediction
[2016-12-28 05:07:54] javierstone : cool
[2016-12-28 05:07:57] halloz : we're about to go up
[2016-12-28 05:07:57] javierstone : love yer predictions
[2016-12-28 05:07:58] deep : it will be up 960+
[2016-12-28 05:08:49] MikeHunt : javierstone: it could break out up now, i may be wrong
[2016-12-28 05:09:30] ett1 : XBTUSD 17100 17.8979 XBT 844.44955.42 845.66 + 2.5075 XBT (8.13x) 2.3523 XBT (1161.64%) -0.1257 XBT XBTH17 5000 4.8630 XBT 989.86 1028.17 971.27 + 0.3141 XBT (16.28x) 0.1882 XBT (186.31%) -0.0007 XBT
[2016-12-28 05:09:51] ett1 : pretty health :D
[2016-12-28 05:10:00] halloz : nom nom nom
[2016-12-28 05:10:01] narnarfromnarnia : just closed?
[2016-12-28 05:11:15] imapotato : moon
[2016-12-28 05:11:25] javierstone : ett1: who'd you vote for?
[2016-12-28 05:11:40] ett1 : i dont vote. waste of time
[2016-12-28 05:11:45] javierstone : attaboy
[2016-12-28 05:11:54] ett1 : im not in the US, but i hate clinton
[2016-12-28 05:12:31] MikeHunt : bad options all round last election
[2016-12-28 05:12:38] MikeHunt : at least with trump we know what we're getting
[2016-12-28 05:13:11] javierstone : ^thats not true
[2016-12-28 05:13:14] ett1 : nigel farage is cool in the UK - i always liked UKIP. happy he got us out of EU
[2016-12-28 05:13:39] ett1 : we'll TPTB are trying to delay it....
[2016-12-28 05:14:11] dodic : Look I love the trump effect on equities but I have NO idea what the man will do
[2016-12-28 05:14:12] MikeHunt : javierstone: in what way?
[2016-12-28 05:14:20] ett1 : lol trump tweeted he'd make a great ambassador to the UK
[2016-12-28 05:14:31] MikeHunt : ett1: i hope he gets the job
[2016-12-28 05:14:34] ett1 : our govt were like the role is already taken
[2016-12-28 05:14:53] MikeHunt : $20tn debt dont disappear over night tho
[2016-12-28 05:14:53] ett1 : people pissed off that trump was advising on who should be our MPs
[2016-12-28 05:14:56] ett1 : etc
[2016-12-28 05:15:02] javierstone : MikeHunt: he has the least amount of experience in political office vs any other president. we precisely have never experienced as a democracy like america for the next four years
[2016-12-28 05:15:14] ett1 : He should invide nigel over and make him US anbassador to the UK!!!!
[2016-12-28 05:15:35] dodic : he is pumping nuclear weapons
[2016-12-28 05:15:36] MikeHunt : javierstone: experience involving embezzlement and running the country into the ground?
[2016-12-28 05:15:40] dodic : i mean, that gives me some pause
[2016-12-28 05:15:47] ett1 : give him a job in the US dealing with all UK relations lol
[2016-12-28 05:15:56] javierstone : MikeHunt: no like elected office. a job where voters keep you in office
[2016-12-28 05:16:24] javierstone : that presents another dimension to leadership when you have voting pressure.
[2016-12-28 05:16:56] javierstone : and his business record is awful. like you could make this argument about being business if it was bloomberg or someone who actually made a shit ton of money
[2016-12-28 05:17:40] ett1 : javierstone: trump has no experience in politcs you say?
[2016-12-28 05:17:53] ett1 : his personal record is great
[2016-12-28 05:17:54] javierstone : ett1: yes
[2016-12-28 05:17:59] dodic : trump should have just been long bitcoin
[2016-12-28 05:18:01] javierstone : his personal record?
[2016-12-28 05:18:07] javierstone : like his companies?
[2016-12-28 05:18:20] ett1 : you businessess a is separate from you personal
[2016-12-28 05:18:33] ett1 : hes a great marketer and businessman
[2016-12-28 05:18:34] MikeHunt : javierstone: im not a democrat though so im probably the wrong person to say that too, but hes made himself president, most powerful man on the planet
[2016-12-28 05:18:36] javierstone : ett1: ok so we aren't electing him because of his business side or his political expeirence
[2016-12-28 05:18:59] MikeHunt : javierstone: i cant vote for him, but i did bet on him
[2016-12-28 05:19:08] MikeHunt : javierstone: it was obvious like brexit
[2016-12-28 05:19:14] ett1 : its the same skill set. most of the politicians could never make it in the private sector. hes lightyears ahead
[2016-12-28 05:19:47] dodic : At the end of the day, its still Goldman Sachs in charge
[2016-12-28 05:19:53] ett1 : wait and see what happens. the only people who dont like him are people that wil miss the growth oportunity
[2016-12-28 05:20:01] ett1 : occupy wallstreet types
[2016-12-28 05:20:08] javierstone : this makes me feels dumber and more afraid reading all these chats
[2016-12-28 05:20:10] MikeHunt : the advantage trump has is he can bypass the MSM
[2016-12-28 05:20:22] MikeHunt : altMedia loves him
[2016-12-28 05:20:49] ett1 : bypass. he plays the media like a pro?
[2016-12-28 05:21:02] ett1 : they do his work for him for free
[2016-12-28 05:21:08] elmorte : $7 premium on USD March futures vs CNY
[2016-12-28 05:21:16] MikeHunt : unlike any previous ruler he can directly address the people
[2016-12-28 05:21:35] javierstone : MikeHunt: obama could do that
[2016-12-28 05:21:47] ett1 : he has a huge influence
[2016-12-28 05:21:51] MikeHunt : javierstone: MSM would stonewall him if he didnt follow agenda
[2016-12-28 05:21:57] ett1 : who the heck was barry obama
[2016-12-28 05:22:01] ett1 : he had a book
[2016-12-28 05:22:15] javierstone : MikeHunt: ya he passed the most substantial piece of healthcare legalisation in decades
[2016-12-28 05:22:15] ett1 : total nobody
[2016-12-28 05:22:25] javierstone : i'd say he worked msm alright in that one
[2016-12-28 05:22:50] MikeHunt : javierstone: yeh that caused healthcare to go up faster than bitcoin has been
[2016-12-28 05:23:00] ett1 : javierstone: you think obamacare is good?
[2016-12-28 05:23:09] javierstone : trump figured out that alot of america is still low key racist af and figured out a way to message to them
[2016-12-28 05:23:10] ett1 : it will suck your country dry
[2016-12-28 05:23:20] javierstone : MikeHunt: regardless he got it passed
[2016-12-28 05:23:22] ett1 : the medical industry + govt
[2016-12-28 05:23:23] javierstone : thats an insane feat
[2016-12-28 05:23:30] MikeHunt : ett1: just like the nhs sucks the UK dry
[2016-12-28 05:23:39] dodic : 1) Obamacare was the republican private /public plan
[2016-12-28 05:23:53] javierstone : yer all dumb i'm minimizing this bullshit
[2016-12-28 05:24:08] MikeHunt : javierstone: aww, need a tissue
[2016-12-28 05:24:09] MikeHunt : ?
[2016-12-28 05:24:14] dodic : 2) the costs were not out of control until they started sabotaging it by removing state funding for the gap payers between poor and middle class
[2016-12-28 05:24:21] imapotato : finex back ahead of bearstamp. EVERYTHING IS NORMAL AGAIN FOLKS, resume the pump!
[2016-12-28 05:24:24] ett1 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_employers
[2016-12-28 05:24:29] ett1 : ^^^ look at this
[2016-12-28 05:24:31] buttcoin : going long on trump 2017
[2016-12-28 05:24:34] ett1 : UK is a tiny country
[2016-12-28 05:24:43] MikeHunt : dodic: government cant run companies
[2016-12-28 05:25:12] dodic : so true, that's why obamacare is a public/private thing
[2016-12-28 05:25:25] MikeHunt : dodic: so fascism is your answer?
[2016-12-28 05:25:51] MikeHunt : or should i use the fun words... national socialism
[2016-12-28 05:25:51] dodic : hahahaha universal healthcare == nationalist socialism?
[2016-12-28 05:26:00] zach719 : aight guys do this somewhere else plz this is not a chat for politics
[2016-12-28 05:26:11] dodic : fair
[2016-12-28 05:26:19] MikeHunt : dodic: depends , universal could be entirely government run, then its just socialist
[2016-12-28 05:26:41] dodic : lets drop it, lets not turn this into polo
[2016-12-28 05:26:43] MikeHunt : zach719: was there something else u wanted to talk about?
[2016-12-28 05:27:32] zach719 : no im fine talking about politics but i took a shit and came back and there were like 200 comments
[2016-12-28 05:27:40] zach719 : im just saying
[2016-12-28 05:27:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 79 @ 0.013216
[2016-12-28 05:28:01] laisee : set ignore = "politics"
[2016-12-28 05:28:42] ett1 : Largest employers in the world 1. US department of defense 3.2m 2. Peopled liberation Army china 2.3m 3. Walmart 2.1m 4. Macdonalds 1.9m 5. NHS 1.7m ******** 6. China national petronium corp 1.6m 7. state grid corp of china 1.5m 8. Indian railways 1.4m 9. indian armed forces 1.3m 9. Foxconn (apple manufaturers) 1.3m
[2016-12-28 05:28:49] ett1 : UK is tiny
[2016-12-28 05:29:25] dodic : So... if walmart had an army...
[2016-12-28 05:29:31] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-12-28 05:29:45] ett1 : its not even funny
[2016-12-28 05:30:16] dodic : wow foxconn us huge
[2016-12-28 05:30:19] dodic : is*
[2016-12-28 05:30:28] dodic : gotta churn out those iphones
[2016-12-28 05:30:47] ett1 : its a disaster for the UK and for america. they should make it all private, but subsidise insurance for the poor & life threatning stuff perhaps
[2016-12-28 05:31:15] ett1 : private industry, but people get state health insurance
[2016-12-28 05:31:57] dodic : just pick up "surgery for dummies*
[2016-12-28 05:32:18] ett1 : university isn't worth it!
[2016-12-28 05:32:24] dodic : also, dat btc
[2016-12-28 05:32:45] MikeHunt : ett1: thats still bad
[2016-12-28 05:32:46] ett1 : the education system is flawed. i learned more about brain surgery on the internet than i did in 3 years of medical school
[2016-12-28 05:33:00] dodic : well shit, now that's distubring
[2016-12-28 05:33:07] MikeHunt : ett1: liberalism is like cancer, starts small and grows
[2016-12-28 05:33:13] MikeHunt : it must be entirely private
[2016-12-28 05:33:30] MikeHunt : if people need help they appear to charity
[2016-12-28 05:33:33] dodic : *resists urge to argue*
[2016-12-28 05:33:36] MikeHunt : not using gov to steal it
[2016-12-28 05:33:51] MikeHunt : if ur a liberal/socialist then your a thief
[2016-12-28 05:34:00] ett1 : MikeHunt: i agree but have to accept things as they are & try and tend towards that
[2016-12-28 05:34:18] javierstone : break out
[2016-12-28 05:34:18] MikeHunt : ett1: liberalism doesnt go away or can be trimmed, it must be cut out by order
[2016-12-28 05:34:33] MikeHunt : javierstone: looks like u win, feel free to gloat
[2016-12-28 05:34:57] imapotato : Your freedom will be secured by defensive technology, not order through government.
[2016-12-28 05:35:01] ett1 : i like adam smith & milton friedman. they share my was of looking at things
[2016-12-28 05:35:02] javierstone : MikeHunt: ya no shit what are you like 15 in some weird brittish town?
[2016-12-28 05:35:10] ett1 : but ye ancap makes sense to me
[2016-12-28 05:35:42] dodic : up
[2016-12-28 05:35:46] dodic : not just a movie
[2016-12-28 05:36:01] narnarfromnarnia : let's see the shorts get rekt
[2016-12-28 05:36:23] javierstone : lunch lunchy lunchy
[2016-12-28 05:36:27] imapotato : This is a cute little mini-pump.
[2016-12-28 05:36:31] dodic : All systems fo
[2016-12-28 05:36:35] imapotato : I'll take it. Hopefully more to follow.
[2016-12-28 05:36:35] dodic : or rather... go
[2016-12-28 05:36:50] ayy_lmao : finex broke new highs
[2016-12-28 05:36:50] ayy_lmao : wut
[2016-12-28 05:37:12] MikeHunt : ett1: i dont think milton got the biggr picture thou
[2016-12-28 05:37:25] javierstone : oh shit its on
[2016-12-28 05:37:31] MikeHunt : javierstone: why does my age/location matter?
[2016-12-28 05:37:49] imapotato : Stamp is too close to finex. This is unnerving.
[2016-12-28 05:37:50] javierstone : because you sound uneducated and someone who reads the headlines of facebook posts
[2016-12-28 05:38:02] ayy_lmao : imapotato: y
[2016-12-28 05:38:17] imapotato : finex has had a premium for quite a while over bearstamp.
[2016-12-28 05:38:19] MikeHunt : javierstone: depends what you define as educated
[2016-12-28 05:38:40] javierstone : @MikeHunt exactly
[2016-12-28 05:38:48] imapotato : The premium between East and West exchanges is also shrinking.
[2016-12-28 05:38:50] ett1 : well he is trading bitcoin futures contracts...
[2016-12-28 05:39:04] dodic : too much UP
[2016-12-28 05:39:06] imapotato : When there's no premium between China and the West, exit your longs. Don't bother shorting, but it would be safe to exit.
[2016-12-28 05:39:32] dodic : imapotato: why?
[2016-12-28 05:39:45] imapotato : because a potato told you to
[2016-12-28 05:39:46] elmorte : imapotato: swap?
[2016-12-28 05:40:02] dodic : airtight logic
[2016-12-28 05:41:03] dodic : no REKT
[2016-12-28 05:41:28] dodic : I was hoping for REKT
[2016-12-28 05:42:44] imapotato : wow
[2016-12-28 05:43:10] imapotato : Open Interest (XBTUSD swap): 6,624,689 Contracts
[2016-12-28 05:43:38] dodic : whoa
[2016-12-28 05:44:34] MikeHunt : iirc china buy at home, sell abroad
[2016-12-28 05:44:43] MikeHunt : if west meets east, means they aint selling
[2016-12-28 05:44:47] MikeHunt : i think
[2016-12-28 05:45:09] ett1 : i wouldnt focus on it too much.
[2016-12-28 05:45:35] ayy_lmao : all you need to look at is the chart
[2016-12-28 05:46:21] happy : going to a new high???
[2016-12-28 05:46:32] ett1 : bitstamp exploded
[2016-12-28 05:46:35] ett1 : up
[2016-12-28 05:47:18] dodic : ok... finally it pulls back
[2016-12-28 05:49:46] dodic : im tempted to just buy into this
[2016-12-28 05:50:14] happy : no pull back, only up
[2016-12-28 05:50:15] narnarfromnarnia : not seeing enough pull back
[2016-12-28 05:50:23] narnarfromnarnia : won't be most likely
[2016-12-28 05:50:26] narnarfromnarnia : look at daily
[2016-12-28 05:50:30] narnarfromnarnia : 10m
[2016-12-28 05:50:36] narnarfromnarnia : prepare for short rekt
[2016-12-28 05:51:22] zach719 : i agree
[2016-12-28 05:51:37] buttcoin : BTC-China has an ascending triangle on 10m
[2016-12-28 05:51:47] narnarfromnarnia : but i would hate to buy at the top and i keep missing rides up
[2016-12-28 05:53:09] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: theres only 1 top
[2016-12-28 05:53:18] ett1 : whats the chances this is it right now
[2016-12-28 05:53:36] narnarfromnarnia : yea good point
[2016-12-28 05:54:52] ett1 : any move that goes from 800 to 1200 will have to pass 900, 950 and many new highs along the way
[2016-12-28 05:54:54] dodic : i can barely keep up
[2016-12-28 05:54:59] MikeHunt : lol i just found out i was sorting with only a small percentage of my fund, thought it was all of it, phew
[2016-12-28 05:55:14] MikeHunt : shorting*
[2016-12-28 05:55:24] dodic : that would be painful
[2016-12-28 05:55:32] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: when did you go short
[2016-12-28 05:55:37] narnarfromnarnia : probably time to cancel it
[2016-12-28 05:55:45] narnarfromnarnia : its just going to be new money and no reason to dump
[2016-12-28 05:55:45] MikeHunt : 949.5
[2016-12-28 05:55:50] ett1 : this is moon time
[2016-12-28 05:55:57] ett1 : exit if it break the high
[2016-12-28 05:56:01] narnarfromnarnia : liq price?
[2016-12-28 05:56:05] narnarfromnarnia : 980
[2016-12-28 05:56:07] narnarfromnarnia : ?
[2016-12-28 05:56:15] MikeHunt : 986
[2016-12-28 05:56:17] ett1 : stop trying to catch the turning point
[2016-12-28 05:56:20] ett1 : its impossible
[2016-12-28 05:56:33] ett1 : you get 1 chance and you are probably wrong
[2016-12-28 05:56:41] ett1 : breakout are much easier to follow
[2016-12-28 05:56:41] narnarfromnarnia : i just wait for confirmations
[2016-12-28 05:56:48] narnarfromnarnia : this is a lil sketch right now
[2016-12-28 05:56:51] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: on what timeframe?
[2016-12-28 05:56:59] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: it could go right back to that price
[2016-12-28 05:57:22] buttcoin : buy dem dips
[2016-12-28 05:57:27] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: what's your liq price?
[2016-12-28 05:57:52] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: 986
[2016-12-28 05:57:59] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: only $80
[2016-12-28 05:58:04] narnarfromnarnia : should be okay
[2016-12-28 05:58:19] narnarfromnarnia : but it feel likle it will pump and wait
[2016-12-28 05:58:20] m3s : so we going to 1000?
[2016-12-28 05:58:22] narnarfromnarnia : pump and wait
[2016-12-28 05:58:29] narnarfromnarnia : no looking back at this point
[2016-12-28 05:58:38] buttcoin : m3s: looks like it
[2016-12-28 05:58:57] ett1 : MikeHunt: exit as soon as it break the high. it means we are going higher. don tlet it go from 960 to 990 lol
[2016-12-28 05:59:04] ett1 : dont let it
[2016-12-28 05:59:20] ett1 : risk $3 not $30
[2016-12-28 06:00:03] MikeHunt : yeh lol
[2016-12-28 06:00:17] m3s : why we pumping when coyna sideways ?
[2016-12-28 06:00:38] halloz : price premium
[2016-12-28 06:00:38] dodic : bitstamp in the drivers seat?
[2016-12-28 06:00:41] ett1 : bitcoin doesn care about china nad it doesnt care about you
[2016-12-28 06:00:55] ett1 : if you want to take a trip, jump aboard this rocket ship
[2016-12-28 06:00:59] halloz : china at 990
[2016-12-28 06:04:50] narnarfromnarnia : this will just inch up more and more
[2016-12-28 06:06:35] ett1 : remember money had arrived
[2016-12-28 06:07:13] ett1 : some people are just reacting to the 800 breakout and will FOMO to 1000-ATH
[2016-12-28 06:07:19] MikeHunt : hahaha
[2016-12-28 06:07:24] MikeHunt : i just noticed
[2016-12-28 06:07:31] MikeHunt : im actually long
[2016-12-28 06:07:36] ett1 : not everyone tradong 5min charts. think about the major move
[2016-12-28 06:07:37] MikeHunt : only $80 short
[2016-12-28 06:08:05] ett1 : will 998 be the top..or 1047..or 1788. who knows.
[2016-12-28 06:08:19] ett1 : bitcoin doesnt retrace
[2016-12-28 06:08:36] ett1 : keeps shorting, you make me meoney
[2016-12-28 06:08:39] MikeHunt : it may well keep going until something happens
[2016-12-28 06:08:47] ett1 : keeps shorting everyone
[2016-12-28 06:08:51] ett1 : i like it
[2016-12-28 06:09:09] shery : why are we pumping when china do
[2016-12-28 06:09:26] dodic : is there a way to see the short interest on the contracts?
[2016-12-28 06:09:55] elmorte : isn't it equal to long?
[2016-12-28 06:10:30] imapotato : more pump incoming
[2016-12-28 06:10:33] dodic : o shit
[2016-12-28 06:10:50] flux : mex wants it
[2016-12-28 06:10:51] flux : gogogo
[2016-12-28 06:11:11] narnarfromnarnia : mex lead this
[2016-12-28 06:11:16] rapidtrades : man IQ is rly low here...
[2016-12-28 06:11:29] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: y?
[2016-12-28 06:11:48] MikeHunt : im thinking 1k and then crash
[2016-12-28 06:11:58] zach719 : same lmao
[2016-12-28 06:12:01] MikeHunt : just outside my liq target :/
[2016-12-28 06:12:01] zach719 : i went in big
[2016-12-28 06:12:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100 @ 960.28
[2016-12-28 06:12:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 795 @ 960.47
[2016-12-28 06:12:09] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-12-28 06:12:12] narnarfromnarnia : here we go boys
[2016-12-28 06:12:41] rapidtrades : we are now 18 above chiina march
[2016-12-28 06:13:11] elmorte : rapidtrades: well, you know what to do...
[2016-12-28 06:13:13] shery : narnarfromnarnia: where ?
[2016-12-28 06:13:22] MikeHunt : i think they are selling at btc-e
[2016-12-28 06:13:30] narnarfromnarnia : just rekts starting
[2016-12-28 06:13:51] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: the chinese government?
[2016-12-28 06:14:17] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: if they are corrupt employees embezzling then mayb
[2016-12-28 06:14:40] MikeHunt : chinese wanna get out of yuan
[2016-12-28 06:14:44] MikeHunt : they use btc to do that
[2016-12-28 06:15:07] dodic : think we see 970 today?
[2016-12-28 06:15:14] MikeHunt : 1k
[2016-12-28 06:15:26] rapidtrades : CITATION NEEDED @MikeHunt
[2016-12-28 06:15:44] MikeHunt : its a round number
[2016-12-28 06:15:45] MikeHunt : lol
[2016-12-28 06:15:56] MikeHunt : otherwise ascending triangle around 6900
[2016-12-28 06:16:01] rapidtrades : if that was true the net effect would be 0, buy in china sell on USD exchanges
[2016-12-28 06:16:02] MikeHunt : descending*
[2016-12-28 06:16:20] rapidtrades : this is just retards going full retard
[2016-12-28 06:16:22] imapotato : to the moon!
[2016-12-28 06:16:24] MikeHunt : 7000 cny is probably more accurate
[2016-12-28 06:16:25] imapotato : bitfinex on rally high
[2016-12-28 06:16:26] rapidtrades : there's no reason for this
[2016-12-28 06:16:34] rapidtrades : there's absolutely no reason for this rally, he are below the highs usd/cnh hit over 1 month ago
[2016-12-28 06:16:44] ayy_lmao : wut
[2016-12-28 06:16:59] ett1 : yes, this bull move has no basis
[2016-12-28 06:17:06] ett1 : the fundamentals are skewed
[2016-12-28 06:17:16] rapidtrades : it's just hot air
[2016-12-28 06:17:20] rapidtrades : like TSLA stock
[2016-12-28 06:17:31] elmorte : When did we start believing the BTC market was rational?
[2016-12-28 06:17:40] ayy_lmao : ^
[2016-12-28 06:17:48] ett1 : bitcoin is a popular delusion
[2016-12-28 06:18:23] ett1 : it will go the same way beany babies did
[2016-12-28 06:18:36] dodic : bitcoin was but a dream
[2016-12-28 06:18:41] MikeHunt : potential tipping point in an hour
[2016-12-28 06:18:46] javierstone : oh baby
[2016-12-28 06:18:48] dodic : or a broken hatchimal
[2016-12-28 06:18:50] MikeHunt : we hit the 1hr rising wedge line
[2016-12-28 06:18:58] MikeHunt : at this rate
[2016-12-28 06:19:02] ett1 : atleast with beany babies, when the fell in value, you still had a toy