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[2016-12-27 19:37:32] ett1 : imapotato: +1
[2016-12-27 19:37:42] halloz : imapotato: yup +1
[2016-12-27 19:37:44] ett1 : eth is just buying time and pushing out PR
[2016-12-27 19:38:01] ett1 : new cycles of development work that take weeks for anyone to wrap their heads around
[2016-12-27 19:38:04] rapidtrades : anything bought on margin eventually has to be closed, cos longs carry a cost...so unless 5+ bil entered the system, we can't sustain this
[2016-12-27 19:38:11] ett1 : just obsufcation taktics
[2016-12-27 19:38:13] imapotato : Also, nobody is going to seriously use ETH until it proves that it's done with immutability-breaking hard forks. Will take a while to gain that trust back, but then again it will be a while before the world is ready for smart contracts.
[2016-12-27 19:38:20] javierstone : xmr is now traded with USDT at finex
[2016-12-27 19:38:24] rapidtrades : PROVE ME WRONG MAGGOTS
[2016-12-27 19:38:42] ett1 : what is etherium. just a proprietary scripting language? + blockchain
[2016-12-27 19:38:45] javierstone : rapidtrades: 21 mins will prove u one way or another
[2016-12-27 19:38:47] ett1 : i dont get whts so good about it
[2016-12-27 19:38:50] imapotato : rapidtrades: Markets are not zero sum.
[2016-12-27 19:38:57] javierstone : imapotato: eth community is whack tho and they don't undertand incentive
[2016-12-27 19:38:57] sleger : rapidtrades: you dont need 5bn fresh money for 5bn increase in market cap
[2016-12-27 19:39:00] ett1 : they were talking about slock changing the world
[2016-12-27 19:39:02] ett1 : digital locks
[2016-12-27 19:39:04] ett1 : 1/0
[2016-12-27 19:39:09] ett1 : a relay switch
[2016-12-27 19:39:31] imapotato : javierstone: They'll be infiltrated by people that know what they're doing eventually.
[2016-12-27 19:39:31] ett1 : what next.. variable controls and blockchain mood lighting?
[2016-12-27 19:39:34] javierstone : ppl trying to pump before funding
[2016-12-27 19:39:36] rapidtrades : yes u do if u want to sustain the move..prove me wrong...eventually all longs will have to be closed
[2016-12-27 19:39:38] imapotato : In the meantime, let them keep toying. Maybe they'll find something.
[2016-12-27 19:39:51] sleger : rapidtrades: if suddenly noone wants to sell bitcoin below 2000 and people are willing to pay 2000 you can have just 1$ of fresh money
[2016-12-27 19:39:54] javierstone : imapotato: monero has surpassed them already
[2016-12-27 19:40:00] javierstone : and rootstock will give them a run for their money
[2016-12-27 19:40:11] javierstone : they are losing any and all technical advantage
[2016-12-27 19:40:17] ett1 : i think funding has no effect on market trend
[2016-12-27 19:40:18] ett1 : its random
[2016-12-27 19:40:25] rapidtrades : sleger: fair point
[2016-12-27 19:40:29] ett1 : could be ip or down going into, and out of it
[2016-12-27 19:40:32] imapotato : monero doesn't compete with ETH does it (outside of being an alt speculation vehicle)?
[2016-12-27 19:40:47] javierstone : imapotato: no i'm saying it surpassed it in market value and market cap
[2016-12-27 19:40:47] imapotato : Unless I missed something, monero is anonymous cash and ETH is smart contract fuel
[2016-12-27 19:41:01] halloz : javierstone: didn't hear bout rootstock - interesting
[2016-12-27 19:41:02] rapidtrades : I'll dwell on this a bit...
[2016-12-27 19:41:02] imapotato : Ok. I don't think that's meaningful, though. They aren't competing.
[2016-12-27 19:41:04] ett1 : wasnt there a darkcoin
[2016-12-27 19:41:13] ett1 : that was supposed to be anonymous
[2016-12-27 19:41:22] sleger : rapidtrades: if people hold, and miners sell, you just need more fresh money than bitcoin mined
[2016-12-27 19:41:32] imapotato : I don't care if the grape market surpasses the baby powder market.
[2016-12-27 19:41:35] sleger : futures are zero sum positions so doesnt matter
[2016-12-27 19:42:01] imapotato : Futures are zero sum, but the profits of longers come from the blood of shorters.
[2016-12-27 19:42:11] sleger : and ?
[2016-12-27 19:42:32] sleger : please make a point potato
[2016-12-27 19:42:37] mjones : bitmex slow?
[2016-12-27 19:43:00] imapotato : You're blabbering about $5b cash being required for BTC to increase $5B in cap.
[2016-12-27 19:43:01] imapotato : That's nonsense.
[2016-12-27 19:43:09] sleger : imapotato: i am not, rapid is
[2016-12-27 19:43:11] CaptainDean : holy XMR
[2016-12-27 19:43:13] orly : wait guys, are you seriously debating whether this bubble is sustainable growth?
[2016-12-27 19:43:23] imapotato : My bad, called the wrong person
[2016-12-27 19:43:26] ett1 : sustainable
[2016-12-27 19:43:27] mjones : CaptainDean: XMR was nice gains
[2016-12-27 19:43:37] halloz : orly: Have you seen the weekly?
[2016-12-27 19:43:40] ett1 : whos got a good long term log chart
[2016-12-27 19:43:41] CaptainDean : yeah, i was too pussy to buy some yesturday
[2016-12-27 19:43:44] halloz : charts*
[2016-12-27 19:43:46] ett1 : draw the trendline
[2016-12-27 19:43:52] ett1 : its on exponetial growth
[2016-12-27 19:44:07] CaptainDean : mjones: congrats to you :)
[2016-12-27 19:44:16] CaptainDean : mjones: ;-)
[2016-12-27 19:44:21] ett1 : and about to break into higher rates. its been growing slowly (relative to some of the early moves)
[2016-12-27 19:44:24] halloz : The next moves will be insane...but we aren't going lower than 800 when this drops imo
[2016-12-27 19:44:24] orly : halloz: yep seen it
[2016-12-27 19:44:26] ett1 : keeps making higher lows
[2016-12-27 19:44:28] mjones : yeah. someone filled my buy order on some random ass dump then it went up 200%
[2016-12-27 19:44:30] halloz : 700 days are long gone
[2016-12-27 19:44:37] mjones : then i shorted the top lucky and closed after more nice gains
[2016-12-27 19:44:42] mjones : now i'm staying out
[2016-12-27 19:44:52] CaptainDean : mjones: yeah i was taking a shower
[2016-12-27 19:44:56] CaptainDean : mjones: lol @ me
[2016-12-27 19:45:07] mjones : i haven't showered in a week
[2016-12-27 19:45:13] mjones : cant miss dem gainz
[2016-12-27 19:45:13] CaptainDean : mjones: :D
[2016-12-27 19:45:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 3 @ 0.013002
[2016-12-27 19:45:39] mjones : xmr could pump 10% easily right now
[2016-12-27 19:45:45] CaptainDean : alright i have to shit to be done
[2016-12-27 19:45:49] CaptainDean : i.m out a few hours
[2016-12-27 19:46:02] mjones : actually sell side filling back in maybe not
[2016-12-27 19:46:08] rapidtrades : HA! your reason doesn't work cos we have miners
[2016-12-27 19:46:13] imapotato : Can we do this for shorters that get REKT? https://i.redd.it/4n36b64xj46y.jpg
[2016-12-27 19:46:33] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-27 19:46:34] imapotato : "No BTC necessary, I just suck at trading"
[2016-12-27 19:46:53] narnarfromnarnia : are you guys banking on xmr too at the same time?
[2016-12-27 19:46:57] narnarfromnarnia : :)
[2016-12-27 19:47:02] imapotato : few
[2016-12-27 19:47:06] imapotato : few are banking on xmr
[2016-12-27 19:47:13] imapotato : good luck to them, but I will have none of it
[2016-12-27 19:47:33] CaptainDean : imapotato: I had some previous good trade small trade with XMR
[2016-12-27 19:47:42] halloz : imapotato: XMR 20x ALL IN FTW YOLO
[2016-12-27 19:47:55] CaptainDean : imapotato: back in time it was very volatile up and down
[2016-12-27 19:47:56] memes : I had a long on it a few days ago but I closed it too early :(
[2016-12-27 19:48:17] rapidtrades : total cost of mining is what 400mil+ per annum?
[2016-12-27 19:48:20] halloz : 937 CHEAP COIN
[2016-12-27 19:48:26] imapotato : I still think NMC is the most undervalued coin out there, BUT... the market can stay irrational longer than I would stay solvent.
[2016-12-27 19:48:28] imapotato : So I own 0 NMC.
[2016-12-27 19:48:56] deeprocks : again so many short just before funding?
[2016-12-27 19:49:01] mjones : why is bitmex so slow
[2016-12-27 19:49:12] imapotato : funding in 10 mins
[2016-12-27 19:49:13] rapidtrades : very slow atm
[2016-12-27 19:49:20] imapotato : dump the per swap, get Dec 30
[2016-12-27 19:49:26] mjones : trying to flip XMR and shit is taking 5 seconds
[2016-12-27 19:49:31] mjones : i'm gonna get rekt
[2016-12-27 19:49:35] imapotato : I made the mistake of hodling the perp swap for 48 hours.
[2016-12-27 19:49:39] rapidtrades : $12 premium for 2.5 days is pretty retarded
[2016-12-27 19:49:46] imapotato : Came out ahead (obviously, longing BTC) but paid hefty fees to do it
[2016-12-27 19:49:49] mjones : i agree rapidtrades
[2016-12-27 19:49:50] halloz : mjones: Trying to fill orders or?
[2016-12-27 19:49:59] mjones : yeah trying to buy the dip
[2016-12-27 19:50:04] imapotato : Would you rather pay $1010/BTC for march coins?
[2016-12-27 19:50:22] rapidtrades : it's not 'march coins'
[2016-12-27 19:50:31] rapidtrades : u ppl are clueless
[2016-12-27 19:50:42] sleger : what is it then ?
[2016-12-27 19:50:50] rapidtrades : it's a future
[2016-12-27 19:51:01] sleger : that's what a future is
[2016-12-27 19:51:01] imapotato : A futures contract for coins which expires in March.
[2016-12-27 19:51:04] imapotato : Close enough to March coins.
[2016-12-27 19:51:08] m3s : funding gonna be expensive af
[2016-12-27 19:51:12] sleger : march gold delivery etc... march coins
[2016-12-27 19:51:22] rapidtrades : there is no delivery
[2016-12-27 19:51:26] imapotato : rapidtrades: +1
[2016-12-27 19:51:28] imapotato : "close enough"
[2016-12-27 19:52:02] rapidtrades : and they're not coins, it's just paper
[2016-12-27 19:52:19] imapotato : It's easier to say "march coins" than to describe the derivative every time
[2016-12-27 19:52:25] imapotato : You are likely not fun at parties.
[2016-12-27 19:52:28] ett1 : rapidtrades: https://www.tradingview.com/x/YFm7fVHX/
[2016-12-27 19:52:29] imapotato : Neither am I, but I imagine you're worse.
[2016-12-27 19:52:51] rapidtrades : imapotato: try march or march future or h17
[2016-12-27 19:52:55] rapidtrades : THEY'RE NOT COINS
[2016-12-27 19:53:05] memes : dude
[2016-12-27 19:53:15] imapotato : ...
[2016-12-27 19:53:17] memes : lets release a coins called march coins
[2016-12-27 19:53:35] memes : gets pumped every march :3
[2016-12-27 19:53:38] halloz : this rocket bout to reach escape velocity :D
[2016-12-27 19:53:38] imapotato : MRC?
[2016-12-27 19:53:43] memes : ye
[2016-12-27 19:53:49] imapotato : halloz: We might do sideways for a bit, sadly
[2016-12-27 19:53:53] memes : we need december coins too
[2016-12-27 19:53:56] rapidtrades : not gonna lie, daily chart looks crazy bullish
[2016-12-27 19:54:23] rapidtrades : ^^^ Abraham Lincoln
[2016-12-27 19:55:47] ett1 : rapidtrades: you agree?
[2016-12-27 19:56:15] firecasey : we really need to see a break of 944 to take off
[2016-12-27 19:56:27] firecasey : sorry 942
[2016-12-27 19:56:43] imapotato : Find me a BTC chart that doesn't look bullish
[2016-12-27 19:57:37] rapidtrades : yeah we're f*cked
[2016-12-27 19:58:04] orly : don't all bubbles look bullish until they pop by definition?
[2016-12-27 19:58:22] Headroom : the bubble didn't start
[2016-12-27 19:58:31] halloz : Headroom: +1
[2016-12-27 19:58:42] mjones : bubble = once ATH breaks
[2016-12-27 19:58:49] mjones : because there is no resistance or top
[2016-12-27 19:58:52] mjones : just clear skies
[2016-12-27 19:58:59] halloz : And the moo
[2016-12-27 19:59:01] halloz : moon*
[2016-12-27 19:59:05] ett1 : its exponential
[2016-12-27 19:59:10] USER02 : kind of late to the rally. What is a good entry price?
[2016-12-27 19:59:14] m3s : fundingggg
[2016-12-27 19:59:15] ett1 : 1...10...100....1000....100000
[2016-12-27 19:59:18] halloz : 736
[2016-12-27 19:59:33] halloz : 735 IF we get that low
[2016-12-27 19:59:52] USER02 : you think is going there anytime soon?
[2016-12-27 19:59:59] cg : think new leg up is imminent
[2016-12-27 20:00:27] halloz : Yup
[2016-12-27 20:00:50] USER02 : if it breaks 944. then yes.
[2016-12-27 20:01:03] USER02 : a lot of resistance around that area
[2016-12-27 20:01:11] mjones : bitmex fix your laggy exchange. i'll be back when it's usable
[2016-12-27 20:01:25] m3s : mark at 940
[2016-12-27 20:01:26] mjones : unless it is on my side which i doubt
[2016-12-27 20:01:37] rapidtrades : its not
[2016-12-27 20:01:39] johndoe : its very laggy for me too
[2016-12-27 20:01:45] m3s : not lagy for me at all
[2016-12-27 20:01:54] sleger : m3s: its because you're not trading
[2016-12-27 20:02:02] sleger : order placement super slow
[2016-12-27 20:02:13] sleger : happens when we hit above 700 dummies
[2016-12-27 20:02:23] m3s : sleger: true, already in my position
[2016-12-27 20:03:11] rapidtrades : finally 0.375%
[2016-12-27 20:03:21] rapidtrades : u finally did it retards
[2016-12-27 20:03:32] narnarfromnarnia : short?
[2016-12-27 20:03:33] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-27 20:03:34] dodic : thats a hearty funding rate
[2016-12-27 20:03:46] narnarfromnarnia : wow ya
[2016-12-27 20:04:01] sleger : that's why the mark is so high
[2016-12-27 20:04:16] rapidtrades : it should've been higher but that's the cap
[2016-12-27 20:04:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 1 @ 0.012771
[2016-12-27 20:04:48] imapotato : I'm getting real sick of these ONE contract liquidations.
[2016-12-27 20:04:49] imapotato : Who does this?
[2016-12-27 20:05:08] ett1 : doesnt matter who cares about them
[2016-12-27 20:05:09] sleger : probably a worm
[2016-12-27 20:05:11] m3s : imapotato: polo newbies
[2016-12-27 20:05:13] sleger : they make potatoes sick
[2016-12-27 20:05:18] imapotato : This is not an exchange for ants.
[2016-12-27 20:05:24] halloz : 100x on 1 contract - WHALE
[2016-12-27 20:05:28] rapidtrades : take it easy vegetable @imapotato
[2016-12-27 20:05:29] sleger : yes it is the contract size is $1
[2016-12-27 20:05:39] sleger : it IS for ants
[2016-12-27 20:05:45] imapotato : I hope that wasn't somebody's pension fund
[2016-12-27 20:05:56] halloz : lol
[2016-12-27 20:07:13] XXXX : $1 contract liquidation are for alerts you noobs
[2016-12-27 20:07:45] imapotato : no u
[2016-12-27 20:08:42] narnarfromnarnia : that was funny $1 contract
[2016-12-27 20:09:30] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: there was a guy asking some complex question that support was looking into over a 1 contract trade lol
[2016-12-27 20:09:52] narnarfromnarnia : bahahaha
[2016-12-27 20:10:10] ett1 : we need a dark pool exchange
[2016-12-27 20:10:16] ett1 : 1000k minimum contract
[2016-12-27 20:10:21] memes : nah
[2016-12-27 20:10:26] memes : 5$ maximum contract
[2016-12-27 20:10:35] ett1 : ok ye
[2016-12-27 20:10:37] memes : call it lunch pool
[2016-12-27 20:10:51] memes : if you make 100% return you can buy yourself lunch
[2016-12-27 20:10:52] ett1 : samller better for some strategies than need precise sizing
[2016-12-27 20:11:02] halloz : KrillPool max .01 contract
[2016-12-27 20:11:18] memes : whoah dude thats too high
[2016-12-27 20:11:20] ett1 : Protazoabit
[2016-12-27 20:11:41] halloz : lol
[2016-12-27 20:12:08] imapotato : MAKE PREMIUMS GREAT AGAIN
[2016-12-27 20:13:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 99 @ 0.00000649
[2016-12-27 20:13:48] halloz : Might be a good opportunity to long soon if this dips a little bit
[2016-12-27 20:15:02] imapotato : no dip
[2016-12-27 20:15:03] imapotato : sideways
[2016-12-27 20:15:06] imapotato : eventually pump
[2016-12-27 20:15:29] halloz : micro dip? lol
[2016-12-27 20:15:54] halloz : 935 rn is a good entry
[2016-12-27 20:16:02] halloz : if it gets that low
[2016-12-27 20:16:23] ett1 : bitcoin can crash 90% in a day, it isnt suitable as an investment
[2016-12-27 20:16:23] halloz : not sure how long we'll go sideways - till china open?
[2016-12-27 20:16:40] imapotato : till I say so
[2016-12-27 20:16:57] halloz : imapotato: Best me now then
[2016-12-27 20:17:00] halloz : be*
[2016-12-27 20:17:15] ett1 : bitcoin pose a systemic risk to the banking system
[2016-12-27 20:18:42] imapotato : I'm going to go play the piano for a while
[2016-12-27 20:18:43] USER02 : here we go!
[2016-12-27 20:18:46] imapotato : When I get back, we can pump
[2016-12-27 20:18:54] imapotato : USER02: not yet, I'm afraid.
[2016-12-27 20:19:16] Nerve : PUMP IT
[2016-12-27 20:19:34] imapotato : Nerve: It's just noise. Wait until I get back from playing the piano.
[2016-12-27 20:20:32] USER02 : imapotato: you better stop with the Piano and smell what bitcoin is cooking Mr.Potato
[2016-12-27 20:22:08] justinlooking : it will rally again when the rekt prayers start. for now it consolidates
[2016-12-27 20:22:45] mjones : wolong is buying XMR is the rumor
[2016-12-27 20:23:00] Tr : more fake support
[2016-12-27 20:23:09] mjones : fontas too
[2016-12-27 20:24:10] narnarfromnarnia : halloz: i think so then break out
[2016-12-27 20:24:52] ett1 : i think its still rallying
[2016-12-27 20:25:15] mjones : btc pump will be within 90 minutes
[2016-12-27 20:27:08] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.dropbox.com/s/ald7bime492eoo6/Screenshot%202016-12-27%2014.26.59.png?dl=0
[2016-12-27 20:28:20] narnarfromnarnia : in a tight wedgy
[2016-12-27 20:28:41] halloz : 939 CHEAP COIN lol
[2016-12-27 20:29:04] narnarfromnarnia : halloz: are you long or
[2016-12-27 20:29:17] halloz : long 70x from 935 :)
[2016-12-27 20:29:37] narnarfromnarnia : halloz: woah
[2016-12-27 20:29:47] narnarfromnarnia : so you've dropped your margin %
[2016-12-27 20:29:49] narnarfromnarnia : in half?
[2016-12-27 20:29:52] narnarfromnarnia : 25
[2016-12-27 20:29:55] narnarfromnarnia : 35%
[2016-12-27 20:30:11] halloz : yeah
[2016-12-27 20:30:17] mjones : lol XMR going back up with BTC
[2016-12-27 20:30:46] halloz : well, im not 100x - liq price way too high for that imo
[2016-12-27 20:30:54] mjones : i wanna know the XMR news
[2016-12-27 20:32:10] mjones : okcoin was 3 cny away from new high. someone didnt want it to break out just yet
[2016-12-27 20:32:14] Speran49 : huobi gone way down
[2016-12-27 20:32:19] Speran49 : and xbt not dropping at all
[2016-12-27 20:32:19] Speran49 : so odd
[2016-12-27 20:33:42] halloz : she likes the foreplay. Soon we'll be getting kinky with the bdsm
[2016-12-27 20:39:48] imapotato : >huobi gone way down Is that a joke? /me returns to piano
[2016-12-27 20:43:07] BitFan : HOUBI 6707
[2016-12-27 20:44:21] mjones : 0kcoin 6735
[2016-12-27 20:45:40] ett1 : bitcoin will never catch on
[2016-12-27 20:45:49] halloz : huobi not goin down o-o
[2016-12-27 20:49:12] javierstone : what advantage does swap have over futures?
[2016-12-27 20:49:21] mjones : doesnt expire
[2016-12-27 20:49:25] javierstone : gotcha
[2016-12-27 20:49:46] ett1 : javierstone: good for shorting
[2016-12-27 20:50:26] javierstone : but otherwise it makes the most sense to go long on the futures
[2016-12-27 20:50:44] javierstone : how does leverage work on futures? you don't pay funding so its just liquidity price
[2016-12-27 20:50:51] mjones : futures doesnt have a cap so the premium can go super high
[2016-12-27 20:51:18] ett1 : javierstone: just the premium. it should converge towards bitcoin price. like z16 is now
[2016-12-27 20:52:25] narnarfromnarnia : a dip first due to funding rates?
[2016-12-27 20:52:35] narnarfromnarnia : or we already dipped
[2016-12-27 20:52:51] ett1 : its 7 hors away now
[2016-12-27 20:53:04] ett1 : i think there are much bigger forces
[2016-12-27 20:53:26] ett1 : i wouldnt overthink it.
[2016-12-27 20:55:49] mjones : btc should break out before next round of funding
[2016-12-27 20:56:12] mjones : i hear china is waking up soon
[2016-12-27 21:02:14] narnarfromnarnia : i just feel like there will be a fake out in one direction before hand maybe not though
[2016-12-27 21:02:26] narnarfromnarnia : ill wait to open up long again maybe at 950?
[2016-12-27 21:08:59] bubble : if you want to calculate the funding amount in 6 hours yo have to do 1.00375 multiplied by size position?
[2016-12-27 21:09:09] m3s : yep
[2016-12-27 21:09:35] bubble : okay thanks
[2016-12-27 21:12:09] mjones : lol who has the bot that places 17360 contracts in front of the lowest order
[2016-12-27 21:14:49] MikeHunt : whats the size position thou?
[2016-12-27 21:14:53] narnarfromnarnia : caution that bot will caress and squeeze you to death
[2016-12-27 21:15:49] halloz : I like to push it as low or high as possible just to F with it
[2016-12-27 21:16:01] halloz : I think im just bored
[2016-12-27 21:16:37] MikeHunt : i see a sauce pan pattern
[2016-12-27 21:16:42] MikeHunt : that means u
[2016-12-27 21:16:45] MikeHunt : p
[2016-12-27 21:17:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: buy 700 @ 0.013658
[2016-12-27 21:17:17] m3s : looks like this mini wedge may break down
[2016-12-27 21:17:26] MikeHunt : yeh, thats why im hesitating
[2016-12-27 21:17:45] MikeHunt : like that clint eastward line "ya feeling lucky...punk"
[2016-12-27 21:17:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 6000 @ 937.75
[2016-12-27 21:17:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5 @ 937.62
[2016-12-27 21:18:55] Ebit : say i put 1 btc in a position. than I get liquidated at a price where i lose half of my bitcoin. Do I lose the whole bitcoin or just the loss from market value
[2016-12-27 21:19:23] Ebit : when bitmex liquaidates me do they take my whole position?
[2016-12-27 21:19:40] javierstone : Ebit: u lose the whole thing
[2016-12-27 21:19:47] mjones : 16 hours ago 0kcoin started pumping higher than huobi. so not sure if that means a dump soon because huobi cant keep up
[2016-12-27 21:19:55] Ebit : javierstone: ur kidding me
[2016-12-27 21:20:14] mjones : you bet 1 btc price goes up and it doesnt. you lose it all
[2016-12-27 21:20:27] javierstone : if u get liquidaed you lose all of your margin
[2016-12-27 21:20:40] Headroom : and your wife too
[2016-12-27 21:20:48] Ebit : i dont mind the wife so much
[2016-12-27 21:20:55] Headroom : it could help
[2016-12-27 21:20:57] javierstone : side chick too
[2016-12-27 21:21:06] Ebit : i need the side chick
[2016-12-27 21:21:09] Ebit : for sex
[2016-12-27 21:21:37] MikeHunt : mjones: usually when cheaper exchanges catch up it means crash time
[2016-12-27 21:21:42] Ebit : so if the liq price is hit i lose my whole margin. that sounds like a shitty deal
[2016-12-27 21:22:19] m3s : Ebit: dont go crayzy on leverage and you'll be fine
[2016-12-27 21:22:35] Ebit : my margin includes money from my account tho that not even in the position?
[2016-12-27 21:22:49] javierstone : Ebit: nope
[2016-12-27 21:22:51] javierstone : unles you are cross
[2016-12-27 21:22:52] halloz : no
[2016-12-27 21:23:02] MikeHunt : are you locked in with contracts or can you cancel them early?
[2016-12-27 21:23:23] Ebit : i can close early
[2016-12-27 21:23:30] mjones : your available balance isnt used in your position unless you are on Cross
[2016-12-27 21:23:34] mjones : @Ebit
[2016-12-27 21:23:42] MikeHunt : is margin trading cheper than regular trading
[2016-12-27 21:23:44] MikeHunt : ?
[2016-12-27 21:24:04] mjones : yeah. because limit orders here you get paid
[2016-12-27 21:24:08] javierstone : look at it like gambling wiht your debit card vs. gambling wiht your credit card
[2016-12-27 21:24:34] MikeHunt : usually i trade on bitstamp, 0.25% fee
[2016-12-27 21:24:39] MikeHunt : is it less here?
[2016-12-27 21:24:49] m3s : mjones: what do you mean limit orders get you paid ?
[2016-12-27 21:24:51] ett1 : i prefer credit card. they provide additional leverage
[2016-12-27 21:24:53] justinlooking : mjones that has nothing to do with it
[2016-12-27 21:25:01] mjones : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-12-27 21:25:12] mjones : maker fee -0.0250%
[2016-12-27 21:25:24] Ebit : when i opened my position it didn't give me an option for a future or swap
[2016-12-27 21:25:26] ett1 : ive got leverage on my leverage
[2016-12-27 21:25:44] justinlooking : being maker doesn't imply margin trading
[2016-12-27 21:26:02] MikeHunt : 0.37% ?
[2016-12-27 21:26:08] MikeHunt : 0.375% *
[2016-12-27 21:26:38] justinlooking : and assume u mean leverage trader = margin trading
[2016-12-27 21:26:47] justinlooking : cuz everyone's a margin trader...
[2016-12-27 21:27:10] MikeHunt : im not entirely sure about the terminology
[2016-12-27 21:27:16] Headroom : no, I'm a banana
[2016-12-27 21:29:10] ett1 : what impressive run ups have you guys made. like turned 0.5btc into 50btc as some point, or any stories?
[2016-12-27 21:29:43] m3s : ett1: where did you enter and exit. thats phenomenal
[2016-12-27 21:29:45] MikeHunt : my stories are usually excuses for missing bull runs
[2016-12-27 21:29:56] ett1 : no i didnt acheive that
[2016-12-27 21:30:07] ett1 : I put 1btc on like a year ago
[2016-12-27 21:30:10] m3s : ett1: ow, sorry i missunderstood
[2016-12-27 21:30:17] ett1 : have 2.6 right now
[2016-12-27 21:30:28] MikeHunt : current pattern looks like upside down triangle, sign from satan its going down to hell
[2016-12-27 21:30:51] ett1 : so like $300 to $2500 or something which is decent so far
[2016-12-27 21:31:07] ett1 : im aiming to reach 5 figures but gambling
[2016-12-27 21:31:10] MikeHunt : i think most ive ever done in 1 go is 300$
[2016-12-27 21:31:16] m3s : MikeHunt: which probably means we go to 950+ tonight because bitcorn
[2016-12-27 21:31:24] ett1 : im up like 2btc this week
[2016-12-27 21:31:29] imapotato : I'm back for a bit. Let's do something.
[2016-12-27 21:31:32] imapotato : Huobi, lead the way!
[2016-12-27 21:31:39] MikeHunt : m3s: ill take any dip as long as it's not a falling knife
[2016-12-27 21:31:51] halloz : Go habibi go
[2016-12-27 21:32:07] m3s : ett1: I bought ETH in ICO and sold at 0.028, made 1 -> 56
[2016-12-27 21:32:07] ett1 : need to compound and get more capital
[2016-12-27 21:32:25] ett1 : m3s: very nice
[2016-12-27 21:32:38] ett1 : i bought btc at $2.4
[2016-12-27 21:32:43] ett1 : rode to $15
[2016-12-27 21:33:17] m3s : lost a lot of it trying to buy the next dip on ETH though
[2016-12-27 21:33:20] ett1 : got margin called when i tried to 2x with $5k when it was $120 and dipped to 70 or so
[2016-12-27 21:33:51] m3s : that sucks
[2016-12-27 21:33:53] ett1 : missed the 100-1000 run since i blew up just before
[2016-12-27 21:34:02] m3s : ye just wanted to say lol
[2016-12-27 21:34:06] imapotato : hoobi wake up it's time to rise
[2016-12-27 21:34:19] halloz : Might be a good opportunity to buy in soon
[2016-12-27 21:34:33] halloz : for those not in yet anyway
[2016-12-27 21:34:35] imapotato : low premium on xbtz
[2016-12-27 21:34:50] ett1 : how did u first discover btc
[2016-12-27 21:34:54] ett1 : wikipedia for me
[2016-12-27 21:34:54] javierstone : imapotato: 16 or 17
[2016-12-27 21:35:08] ett1 : articles about e-gold or anonymous banking
[2016-12-27 21:35:16] imapotato : javierstone: XBTZ16
[2016-12-27 21:35:24] m3s : people wanted to buy my 280x for crazy premiums
[2016-12-27 21:35:29] imapotato : ett1: news article about bitcoin + cyprus banking crisis
[2016-12-27 21:35:53] ett1 : were most of u traders before bitcoin
[2016-12-27 21:36:00] ett1 : or bitcoin made you traders
[2016-12-27 21:36:20] m3s : dabbled in fx but failed. this is childsplay comared to fx
[2016-12-27 21:36:39] ett1 : i was into trading but couldnt find any strategy that made sense for me with stocks etc
[2016-12-27 21:36:48] ett1 : backtesting, and played with mt4
[2016-12-27 21:36:53] ett1 : but small money
[2016-12-27 21:37:06] ett1 : BTC clicked and knew it was going to grow
[2016-12-27 21:38:06] javierstone : crashinggg
[2016-12-27 21:38:15] ett1 : knew a bit about breakouts & momentum trading from books, and i thought mtgox was really cool for being an exchange traded platform at the time
[2016-12-27 21:38:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 100 @ 1007.15
[2016-12-27 21:38:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 3 @ 6695.2 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-27 21:38:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 125 @ 6698.0
[2016-12-27 21:38:36] mjones : Btc where you going
[2016-12-27 21:38:43] m3s : rekt
[2016-12-27 21:38:47] imapotato : I didn't mean down, huobi.
[2016-12-27 21:38:56] m3s : lmao
[2016-12-27 21:38:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 4000 @ 935.93
[2016-12-27 21:38:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: sell 5 @ 940.83
[2016-12-27 21:38:57] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2016-12-27 21:39:22] imapotato : meh, ride it out, bear trap before rise
[2016-12-27 21:39:24] imapotato : This is why you don't 100x.
[2016-12-27 21:39:28] m3s : lol
[2016-12-27 21:39:29] dodic : holy
[2016-12-27 21:39:32] mjones : Damn i gotta step away right when it starts dumping
[2016-12-27 21:39:47] bingbongfly : wait
[2016-12-27 21:39:58] mjones : Be back in 15
[2016-12-27 21:40:04] ett1 : chill guys
[2016-12-27 21:40:04] m3s : not a lot of rekts
[2016-12-27 21:40:11] mjones : Keep it sideways
[2016-12-27 21:40:39] ett1 : 920 was resistance turned into support
[2016-12-27 21:41:03] dodic : and now to test 920?
[2016-12-27 21:41:06] ett1 : well break 940 and have a next leg it think
[2016-12-27 21:41:06] lockhedge : 400k contracts closed on XBTUSD
[2016-12-27 21:41:09] ett1 : we wont go 900
[2016-12-27 21:41:10] paniktrade : yo guys chill with the selling XD
[2016-12-27 21:41:14] imapotato : last chance to buy, we're returning p
[2016-12-27 21:41:21] imapotato : hit the bottom, that was fun
[2016-12-27 21:41:33] Naloxone : Strange. Where the all rekt are?
[2016-12-27 21:41:40] imapotato : Most people know not to 100x.
[2016-12-27 21:41:59] ett1 : they are 100z but got in at 880 lol
[2016-12-27 21:42:58] javierstone : damn they are trying to. shake out folks
[2016-12-27 21:42:58] mariomarco : 0.375% again
[2016-12-27 21:43:02] mariomarco : ffs with this funding
[2016-12-27 21:43:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 10 @ 0.004750
[2016-12-27 21:43:07] ett1 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/YFm7fVHX/ long term
[2016-12-27 21:43:10] imapotato : do quarterly
[2016-12-27 21:43:48] dodic : still dropping
[2016-12-27 21:43:56] narnarfromnarnia : dodic: i think 925
[2016-12-27 21:44:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 680 @ 6892.0
[2016-12-27 21:44:03] cryptomad : imapotato: You are back sweet potato..;-)
[2016-12-27 21:44:05] m3s : drop it
[2016-12-27 21:44:08] MikeHunt : i was right
[2016-12-27 21:44:11] MikeHunt : satans sign
[2016-12-27 21:44:12] imapotato : cryptomad: yeah
[2016-12-27 21:44:13] ett1 : 900 is strong support
[2016-12-27 21:44:20] dodic : i could see 925
[2016-12-27 21:44:20] ett1 : i dont think well ger that low
[2016-12-27 21:44:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2 @ 931.90 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-27 21:44:22] Naloxone : This dump is for real. 50x/25x, probably even 15x who longed at the top will get rekt too
[2016-12-27 21:44:22] imapotato : I told huobi to do something. I didn't mean to drop, but fun is fun
[2016-12-27 21:44:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 931.10
[2016-12-27 21:44:51] cryptomad : imapotato: Your kind of people are so healthy.
[2016-12-27 21:45:23] imapotato : bottomed yet?
[2016-12-27 21:45:26] MikeHunt : it broke the trend so its going down a fair bit
[2016-12-27 21:45:28] javierstone : early china wake up.
[2016-12-27 21:45:34] imapotato : looks like bottom
[2016-12-27 21:45:57] narnarfromnarnia : might try to squeeze more out
[2016-12-27 21:46:03] Naloxone : imapotato: no way
[2016-12-27 21:46:06] bingbongfly : imapotato: wait for it... thi sig oing down a bit. casino want more calls
[2016-12-27 21:46:23] paniktrade : lots of shorts opened here or stops got ran
[2016-12-27 21:46:55] imapotato : I don't know.
[2016-12-27 21:47:10] MikeHunt : 915 maybe
[2016-12-27 21:47:14] imapotato : That dump hit support pretty quickly, and China has been buying dips.
[2016-12-27 21:47:37] javierstone : this is just the last shake out before the big one
[2016-12-27 21:47:54] imapotato : Why do a small shake out before a big one? XD
[2016-12-27 21:48:12] dodic : more
[2016-12-27 21:48:17] MikeHunt : big dildo down?
[2016-12-27 21:48:23] dodic : 925.... ish
[2016-12-27 21:48:27] dodic : 925 on bitstamp
[2016-12-27 21:48:27] imapotato : Dumpers want a flash. Flash ended at 6655. We're riding support now.
[2016-12-27 21:48:33] ett1 : flashcraph. 920 will hold
[2016-12-27 21:49:50] imapotato : Note to self: Exit your position while we ride sideways, get in once the getting is good.
[2016-12-27 21:50:06] javierstone : imapotato: i.e. now
[2016-12-27 21:50:17] imapotato : It seems the getting is good now, yes.
[2016-12-27 21:50:38] dodic : well that short took steely resolve
[2016-12-27 21:50:54] dodic : i was having an anxiety attack for most of the day
[2016-12-27 21:50:54] tommygunn : wow that was a gift
[2016-12-27 21:51:07] imapotato : Moment of silence for the over-leveraged, please.
[2016-12-27 21:51:23] NL007 : scary
[2016-12-27 21:51:38] Nerve : 936 can be a good buy oportunity
[2016-12-27 21:51:41] ett1 : this is nothing
[2016-12-27 21:51:44] dodic : there wasnt that much rekt actually
[2016-12-27 21:51:48] ett1 : bounce back up
[2016-12-27 21:51:55] dodic : christmas was way worse
[2016-12-27 21:51:59] MikeHunt : triangle in a downward usually means more drop
[2016-12-27 21:52:22] NL007 : another 10-15 drop rekts will start
[2016-12-27 21:52:27] tommygunn : bots making the owners poor
[2016-12-27 21:52:38] imapotato : >[2016-12-27 21:31:29] imapotato : I'm back for a bit. Let's do something. >[2016-12-27 21:31:32] imapotato : Huobi, lead the way! Careful what you wish for!
[2016-12-27 21:52:47] dodic : hahahaha
[2016-12-27 21:53:26] imapotato : Crawling out of the whole.
[2016-12-27 21:53:36] imapotato : The question is: Do I increase my long before we get out of it, or keep riding?
[2016-12-27 21:53:42] memes : lmfao almost liquidated there
[2016-12-27 21:53:49] memes : but too lucky for that
[2016-12-27 21:53:49] halloz : me too lol
[2016-12-27 21:53:54] Tr : you think its over?
[2016-12-27 21:53:57] imapotato : congrats memes
[2016-12-27 21:53:59] Tr : "saved"
[2016-12-27 21:53:59] halloz : yeah prob
[2016-12-27 21:54:05] narnarfromnarnia : weee
[2016-12-27 21:54:08] memes : xD
[2016-12-27 21:54:10] javierstone : blast off
[2016-12-27 21:54:14] memes : Tr I'm gonna clutch this
[2016-12-27 21:54:15] imapotato : Tr: I think probably, but no promises yet
[2016-12-27 21:54:27] javierstone : china is back at 6700
[2016-12-27 21:54:30] ett1 : @imapotato gent in big and early at the start. add smaller as you go up. not too much or youll be top heavy
[2016-12-27 21:54:36] imapotato : premium very small on XBTZ16 if anybody wants in quick