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[2016-12-27 15:43:10] mjones : and you can click that little box next to 100x and enter any leverage you want
[2016-12-27 15:43:14] Ebit : oh so if i deposit more btc into my account but is not in my position would that help?
[2016-12-27 15:43:16] ett1 : better to be aware of where your liq is. using the slider forces that
[2016-12-27 15:43:20] mjones : so if you want to go 30x long you can
[2016-12-27 15:43:37] ett1 : yes
[2016-12-27 15:43:42] ett1 : or 50x or 100x
[2016-12-27 15:43:46] ett1 : it will let you
[2016-12-27 15:43:48] imapotato : $934.02 liq price
[2016-12-27 15:43:53] l3f : ya all on extremely leveraged longs
[2016-12-27 15:43:54] imapotato : jk, hueheuhuehe
[2016-12-27 15:43:56] l3f : sell a bit when in profit
[2016-12-27 15:44:01] l3f : and add it back to margin
[2016-12-27 15:44:09] l3f : lots of shakeouts ahead
[2016-12-27 15:44:11] anondran : Ebit: https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin
[2016-12-27 15:44:24] mjones : 788 users. bitmex blowing up
[2016-12-27 15:44:33] ett1 : l3f: add back to margin, and increase some more
[2016-12-27 15:44:33] javierstone : ya there are some shorts that are barely hanging on i imagine
[2016-12-27 15:44:34] imapotato : deserved
[2016-12-27 15:44:36] Ebit : thanks all
[2016-12-27 15:44:36] ett1 : when you hit the limit
[2016-12-27 15:44:37] justinlooking : let the power of rekt compel you
[2016-12-27 15:44:43] javierstone : its coming
[2016-12-27 15:44:51] l3f : 950 here already
[2016-12-27 15:44:53] l3f : the fomo's real
[2016-12-27 15:45:15] rapidtrades : WHERE WERE YOU WHEN BITCOIN HIT A NEW ALL-TIME HIGH?
[2016-12-27 15:45:31] shery : i like when market is flcutuaating like this
[2016-12-27 15:45:33] imapotato : http://i.imgur.com/GVFbI3L.gif
[2016-12-27 15:45:34] imapotato : I was in the happening bunker
[2016-12-27 15:45:45] l3f : imapotato: it moved up 10 used
[2016-12-27 15:45:54] l3f : usd*
[2016-12-27 15:45:56] l3f : as promised
[2016-12-27 15:46:11] rapidtrades : this looks to be my best and worst trade of the year
[2016-12-27 15:46:13] rullwull : the next fibo on weekly is 966
[2016-12-27 15:46:31] mjones : rapidtrades: so many noobs that much money will be made on the dump. but when will the dump come
[2016-12-27 15:46:56] imapotato : where were you when fiat was kill
[2016-12-27 15:47:38] sleger : rapidtrades: is habibi kapputt ?
[2016-12-27 15:48:01] rapidtrades : idk i think he's on holiday
[2016-12-27 15:48:11] imapotato : prince habibu?
[2016-12-27 15:48:14] javierstone : cny futures about to hi 6700
[2016-12-27 15:48:15] Rado : haven't seen him in a long itme
[2016-12-27 15:48:28] imapotato : hububu is chewing gum
[2016-12-27 15:49:21] rapidtrades : sleger: @Rado u guys still on this train?
[2016-12-27 15:49:26] shery : dont buy nnow, buy when it dips , tis is obviously top for now
[2016-12-27 15:49:31] sleger : yes of course @rapidtrades
[2016-12-27 15:49:58] Rado : rapidtrades: I sold 30k from my 50k position
[2016-12-27 15:49:58] l3f : sleger: where do you see bitcoin?
[2016-12-27 15:50:08] rapidtrades : Rado: weak hand
[2016-12-27 15:50:10] sleger : l3f: on my bottom left screen
[2016-12-27 15:50:14] Rado : yeah
[2016-12-27 15:50:26] l3f : sleger: haha, the fact you're here give me confidence
[2016-12-27 15:50:38] sleger : reduced half as well recently, the premium was too good to resist
[2016-12-27 15:50:49] l3f : sleger: your x1?
[2016-12-27 15:50:55] sleger : ?
[2016-12-27 15:51:02] l3f : what do you mean by reduced half?
[2016-12-27 15:51:10] l3f : I thought you were hedging with -x1
[2016-12-27 15:51:16] l3f : a part of your capital
[2016-12-27 15:51:29] ett1 : long futres, short swap
[2016-12-27 15:51:36] ett1 : futures premium was hi
[2016-12-27 15:51:40] rapidtrades : it means he took 0.35% over infinite gains
[2016-12-27 15:51:41] sleger : no i hedged part of my btc, and a couple of hours ago i hedged a bit more
[2016-12-27 15:51:57] sleger : still net long but less
[2016-12-27 15:51:58] ett1 : rapidtrades: lol
[2016-12-27 15:52:09] javierstone : so is that the move, short the swp while longing hte futures
[2016-12-27 15:52:14] rapidtrades : I almost unhedged the small short i have here
[2016-12-27 15:52:26] rapidtrades : looked really bullish a 910
[2016-12-27 15:52:29] ett1 : this isnt the time to hedge
[2016-12-27 15:52:33] ett1 : long and sting bmy friends
[2016-12-27 15:52:38] ett1 : strong*
[2016-12-27 15:53:02] l3f : sleger: did you learn to trade on fx or stocks?
[2016-12-27 15:53:11] l3f : how did you start?
[2016-12-27 15:53:41] sleger : i just do maths
[2016-12-27 15:54:25] sleger : and statistics
[2016-12-27 15:55:22] rapidtrades : what does the math say about 50% gain in 3 months?
[2016-12-27 15:55:25] ett1 : what returns do u target
[2016-12-27 15:55:50] sleger : rapidtrades: that's pretty good
[2016-12-27 15:56:03] sleger : 100% a year @ett1
[2016-12-27 15:56:50] ett1 : cool, ye i'm targeting 50-200% but long bias
[2016-12-27 15:56:51] justinlooking : rapidtrades: it says 100% gains over 6 months dummy
[2016-12-27 15:57:13] rapidtrades : yeah im sure it will keep going forever
[2016-12-27 15:57:40] sleger : justinlooking: 50% in 3 months is not 100% in 6 months, you're the dummy
[2016-12-27 15:57:50] sleger : :p
[2016-12-27 15:58:04] ett1 : rapidtrades: it wil probably keep making higher lows and stabalise way above my entry
[2016-12-27 15:58:06] justinlooking : mighta known u'd pick me up on that :P
[2016-12-27 15:58:07] ett1 : i have stops
[2016-12-27 15:58:24] firecasey : man a short here is tempting
[2016-12-27 15:58:31] sleger : tell that to habibi
[2016-12-27 15:58:37] sleger : or jung1
[2016-12-27 15:58:40] l3f : firecasey: shorting a pump
[2016-12-27 15:58:46] l3f : the classic mistake
[2016-12-27 15:59:01] firecasey : some people would call it Contrarian
[2016-12-27 15:59:04] sleger : habibi lasted longer than i thought he would !
[2016-12-27 15:59:06] firecasey : and make bank
[2016-12-27 15:59:08] ett1 : its too high. just look at how fast it has gone. unsustainable
[2016-12-27 15:59:10] XBT_Saver : Does anyone know why the XBTZ16 instrument 's expiry date is the 30th rather than the 31st?
[2016-12-27 15:59:23] mjones : settlement is on friday
[2016-12-27 15:59:39] sleger : XBT_Saver: bitcoins are closed on saturday
[2016-12-27 15:59:54] XBT_Saver : sleger: lol
[2016-12-27 16:00:10] NL007 : any news on etcwin?
[2016-12-27 16:00:26] mjones : sounds like spot trading starts tomorrow
[2016-12-27 16:00:37] Derreck : Chinese Finance ministry spokesman Sum Ting Wong says that the minstry will be investigating currency manipulation in Bitcoin.
[2016-12-27 16:00:46] sleger : mjones: link ?
[2016-12-27 16:00:48] rapidtrades : no way
[2016-12-27 16:00:52] mjones : just read it in trollbox here
[2016-12-27 16:00:55] rapidtrades : CITATION NEEDED
[2016-12-27 16:01:00] mjones : and Derreck they dont care about 15 billion dollar market cap
[2016-12-27 16:01:26] mjones : and maybe i was being trolled because i searched and couldnt find any etcwin news about tomorrow trading
[2016-12-27 16:01:50] ett1 : theyll care when its $1.5Tn
[2016-12-27 16:02:19] javierstone : lol
[2016-12-27 16:03:03] Derreck : mjones: don't have one, read this in the Zerohedge comment section
[2016-12-27 16:03:25] javierstone : Derreck: even more credible than the ZH blog itself
[2016-12-27 16:03:52] javierstone : did the commenter see it on a bloomberg terminal?
[2016-12-27 16:04:44] Tr : Sum Ting Wong says that the minstry will be investigating currency manipulation in Bitcoin.
[2016-12-27 16:04:45] Tr : any source?
[2016-12-27 16:04:52] Derreck : javierstone: dunno
[2016-12-27 16:06:27] lockhedge : Tr: Xiao Jie is the Chinese finance minister. "Sum Ting Wong" is very likely a joke name for "something wrong"
[2016-12-27 16:06:53] Derreck : lockhedge: spokesman
[2016-12-27 16:08:05] Tr : bitfinex tripple top?
[2016-12-27 16:08:24] sleger : thanks to sumtingwong news i panicked sold : 945.99 20000 15:01:19 AM S
[2016-12-27 16:08:25] mjones : in b4 bitmex lags due to dozens of longs being margin called at the same time
[2016-12-27 16:08:41] Tr : support broke
[2016-12-27 16:08:42] Tr : its going down
[2016-12-27 16:09:12] mjones : in b4 china saves the price and pumps above 6700 cny
[2016-12-27 16:09:31] Tr : maybe their are dumping on news
[2016-12-27 16:09:35] Tr : and will reveal hack soon
[2016-12-27 16:09:38] Tr : after they are done shorting
[2016-12-27 16:09:49] imapotato : uhh
[2016-12-27 16:09:51] imapotato : can we moon again please
[2016-12-27 16:09:54] rapidtrades : SIM TING WONG SAYS CHINA WILL LOOK INTO A BAN ON BITCOIN
[2016-12-27 16:10:02] Tr : GG BITCOIN BANNED
[2016-12-27 16:10:10] Tr : 404 Bitcoins not found
[2016-12-27 16:10:15] Derreck : lol
[2016-12-27 16:10:35] rapidtrades : SPOKESWOMAN VEWY WONG CONFIRMS THE STATEMENT
[2016-12-27 16:10:51] Tr : 6666
[2016-12-27 16:10:52] Tr : get out
[2016-12-27 16:10:55] imapotato : >Sum Ting Wong
[2016-12-27 16:10:56] Tr : satan is short
[2016-12-27 16:10:57] imapotato : this is joke, right?]
[2016-12-27 16:11:05] dodic : satan always shorts
[2016-12-27 16:11:28] dodic : if its hits 6666 again it goes to 800
[2016-12-27 16:11:28] Mike17 : Yes
[2016-12-27 16:11:44] l3f : dip buyers strong
[2016-12-27 16:12:08] dodic : quantum computers came out today, cryptocurrencies are dead
[2016-12-27 16:12:12] imapotato : I swear to god if a Sum Ting Wong joke pops this rally, I'll be pissed.
[2016-12-27 16:12:24] Naloxone : Bitmex is getting smarter. Looks like no one longed the top with 100x
[2016-12-27 16:12:34] dodic : thank god
[2016-12-27 16:12:34] bingbongfly : we going down!
[2016-12-27 16:12:44] Derreck : imapotato: so its a confirmed fake?
[2016-12-27 16:12:47] Tr : holy shit
[2016-12-27 16:12:53] dodic : a little REKT is fun but I hope no one gets totally destroyed
[2016-12-27 16:12:53] Tr : China gov LOOKING into bitcoin
[2016-12-27 16:12:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 5000 @ 6924.3
[2016-12-27 16:12:57] mjones : 100x short time
[2016-12-27 16:13:00] Tr : its BANNED guys
[2016-12-27 16:13:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: sell 2000 @ 943.30
[2016-12-27 16:13:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: sell 1000 @ 942.90
[2016-12-27 16:13:07] imapotato : >100x 100x is dangerous. Only go 25x
[2016-12-27 16:13:07] dodic : bitcoin was a scam
[2016-12-27 16:13:11] Tr : China abandoned us
[2016-12-27 16:13:21] shery : short it
[2016-12-27 16:13:23] arbitrage001 : crash inc
[2016-12-27 16:13:25] arbitrage001 : sell now
[2016-12-27 16:13:29] ett1 : ponzi shceme
[2016-12-27 16:13:33] arbitrage001 : train to 150 leaving soon
[2016-12-27 16:13:34] dodic : though 6666, satan short
[2016-12-27 16:13:38] arbitrage001 : bitcoin is a ponzi
[2016-12-27 16:13:45] arbitrage001 : sell now
[2016-12-27 16:13:50] rapidtrades : SATAN SAYS BITCOIN IS COOL
[2016-12-27 16:13:56] arbitrage001 : yes
[2016-12-27 16:14:09] rapidtrades : GUZMAN CONFIRMED AS SATOSHI
[2016-12-27 16:14:09] arbitrage001 : if you worship satan, buy btc
[2016-12-27 16:14:10] mjones : china buying the dip hard
[2016-12-27 16:14:16] Tr : Satan shorting bitcoin on 666x leverage
[2016-12-27 16:14:16] imapotato : baw god i had a family
[2016-12-27 16:14:18] justinlooking : rofl GUZMAN
[2016-12-27 16:14:21] arbitrage001 : hitler said bitcoin is cool
[2016-12-27 16:14:30] sleger : arbitrage001: wow dude
[2016-12-27 16:14:31] sleger : limits
[2016-12-27 16:14:43] arbitrage001 : sleger: hallo, sleger
[2016-12-27 16:14:44] imapotato : You know damn well Hitler would have confiscated paper wallets as he went through Europe.
[2016-12-27 16:14:47] imapotato : Brains wallets OP
[2016-12-27 16:15:02] rapidtrades : dam that could be a thing in the future
[2016-12-27 16:15:13] mjones : wonder why china wont just let the price fall. always gotta buy it back up
[2016-12-27 16:15:15] rapidtrades : its only 12-24 words too, doable
[2016-12-27 16:15:36] imapotato : 12 words can move $millions across a border
[2016-12-27 16:15:37] shery : mjones: they want weak hands left behind
[2016-12-27 16:15:43] Tr : mjones its ponzi money buying the coins
[2016-12-27 16:15:58] shery : mmm money
[2016-12-27 16:15:59] imapotato : RIP weak hands and 100Xers
[2016-12-27 16:16:07] imapotato : be safe, play 25x long the whole rally
[2016-12-27 16:16:10] Tr : create fake sell wall with fake coins as Huobi admin
[2016-12-27 16:16:15] Tr : and market buy it with fake CNY
[2016-12-27 16:16:17] Tr : repeat
[2016-12-27 16:16:19] rapidtrades : keep ur money in ur brain and hope u don't get Alzheimer:)
[2016-12-27 16:16:23] Tr : now its 940 bucks
[2016-12-27 16:16:28] ett1 : beware of bitcoin get rich schemes & business opportunities
[2016-12-27 16:16:29] imapotato : china says no drop, return to normal
[2016-12-27 16:16:34] imapotato : 6700 minutes away
[2016-12-27 16:16:43] shery : haha china playing
[2016-12-27 16:17:14] Naloxone : This pump, that started 2 weeks ago is a scum for real. 80% of it is an artificial demand created by the Chinese bots
[2016-12-27 16:17:23] imapotato : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmclgO6w0C0
[2016-12-27 16:17:37] sleger : Naloxone: u short ?
[2016-12-27 16:17:44] imapotato : China is the new Willy
[2016-12-27 16:17:56] imapotato : Except China's pockets are actually deep
[2016-12-27 16:18:29] Tr : they have zero fees for easier manipulation
[2016-12-27 16:18:34] Tr : thats the whole reason behind it
[2016-12-27 16:18:42] Naloxone : sleger: yes, from 941.50. But can admit this scum can last longer and we will break 1000$
[2016-12-27 16:19:27] Tr : This is just like ETC pump scam
[2016-12-27 16:19:32] Tr : everyone knew its fake
[2016-12-27 16:19:37] Tr : question was how long they will push it
[2016-12-27 16:19:44] imapotato : $5 below the rally high at the moment Bitcoin confirmed dead
[2016-12-27 16:20:24] Tr : if Huobi goes offline for 5 minutes price plummets
[2016-12-27 16:20:50] Tr : its basically HuobiCoin at this point
[2016-12-27 16:21:21] rapidtrades : HUOBI HACKED BY FINEX RENEGADES
[2016-12-27 16:21:59] ett1 : trouble in bitcoinland
[2016-12-27 16:22:11] imapotato : What? Huobi was hacked for 20000k bitcoins?
[2016-12-27 16:22:12] imapotato : oh no dump
[2016-12-27 16:22:29] l3f : imapotato: that's literally the only thing that can stop this pump now
[2016-12-27 16:22:45] imapotato : pump stopped
[2016-12-27 16:22:47] imapotato : huobi confirmed hack
[2016-12-27 16:22:50] imapotato : only logical explanation
[2016-12-27 16:23:08] happy : when did that happened
[2016-12-27 16:23:09] imapotato : we've been sideways for a solid 3 hours now
[2016-12-27 16:23:10] rapidtrades : TRUMP HACKS BITMEX IN CONFUSION ABOUT NAME
[2016-12-27 16:23:20] Naloxone : I feel like Okcoin and Huobi are using the same bot
[2016-12-27 16:23:21] imapotato : I'm just saying, have you ever seen Trump and Huobi in the same place at the same time?
[2016-12-27 16:24:03] Tr : this rebuying is what was happening on MtGox everytime price was dropping abit
[2016-12-27 16:24:17] Tr : is the Karpeles the hidden CEO of Huobi>
[2016-12-27 16:24:22] Tr : who knows
[2016-12-27 16:24:40] imapotato : https://nytimes.com/confirmed/articles/Trump-confirmed-hodlin-100x-long-bitcoin
[2016-12-27 16:25:03] rapidtrades : IS TRUMP USING THE US TREASURY TO SECRETLY PUMP BITCOIN? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-27/trump-bitcoin-us-treasury
[2016-12-27 16:25:42] imapotato : https://cnn.com/news/current-year/trump-pumps-bitcoin-on-national-television
[2016-12-27 16:25:49] rapidtrades : lol imagine if there's a bot scrapping the chat right now....it will go nuts
[2016-12-27 16:26:05] imapotato : RIP natural language processors
[2016-12-27 16:26:09] dodic : that would be hilarious
[2016-12-27 16:26:19] dodic : all exchanges HACKED
[2016-12-27 16:26:30] dodic : -20%
[2016-12-27 16:26:46] dodic : bitcoin to replace us dollar
[2016-12-27 16:26:50] dodic : +20%
[2016-12-27 16:26:56] imapotato : +9000%
[2016-12-27 16:27:11] dodic : yeah the would be more like it
[2016-12-27 16:27:28] ett1 : Modi's Vision of a Bitcoin India http://www.businessinsider.com/modis-india-bitcoin-vision-2016-12
[2016-12-27 16:27:46] imapotato : -20%, +20% => -4% by the way
[2016-12-27 16:28:42] l3f : man fuck this swap cancer
[2016-12-27 16:28:48] l3f : total usuary
[2016-12-27 16:28:52] imapotato : no you're cancer
[2016-12-27 16:28:56] l3f : imapotato: i am
[2016-12-27 16:28:59] mjones : lol okcoin 2000 btc pump wall in place
[2016-12-27 16:29:01] imapotato : trade quarterly
[2016-12-27 16:29:13] l3f : imapotato: I'm moving
[2016-12-27 16:29:24] imapotato : mufasa
[2016-12-27 16:29:26] imapotato : (move faster)
[2016-12-27 16:30:53] ett1 : l3f: wait until H17 goes into disount
[2016-12-27 16:30:56] Nerve : we are going down...
[2016-12-27 16:31:09] l3f : Nerve: lol no
[2016-12-27 16:31:14] mjones : someone is making 6700 cny support
[2016-12-27 16:31:15] imapotato : Nerve: 6690 huobi, sorry
[2016-12-27 16:31:20] Nerve : pump doesnț work
[2016-12-27 16:31:20] imapotato : Almost fully recovered from that trap
[2016-12-27 16:31:36] ett1 : l3f: im not buying at 7%. i think thats high
[2016-12-27 16:31:50] ett1 : okcoin 3M futurs average 4%
[2016-12-27 16:31:57] ett1 : ranges 0-8% usually
[2016-12-27 16:32:11] ett1 : has spiked into discount and >10% but short lived
[2016-12-27 16:32:12] imapotato : make premiums great again
[2016-12-27 16:32:15] mjones : okcoin pump wall back
[2016-12-27 16:32:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCZ16`: buy 6500 @ 6715.7
[2016-12-27 16:32:38] imapotato : rip shorts
[2016-12-27 16:32:39] l3f : lol
[2016-12-27 16:33:02] mjones : hope you all bought the dip
[2016-12-27 16:33:06] ett1 : l3f: funding will go negative, H16 will crash and go low premium/discount
[2016-12-27 16:33:16] ett1 : and then i will buy that shit up for myself mwuhahaha
[2016-12-27 16:33:16] dodic : lol how much leverage was there to get rekt there
[2016-12-27 16:33:21] l3f : ett1: not with this atomosphere
[2016-12-27 16:33:30] ett1 : yes not now
[2016-12-27 16:33:36] ett1 : next peak/pullback
[2016-12-27 16:34:17] imapotato : 6700 huobi
[2016-12-27 16:34:45] l3f : who got scared and sold?
[2016-12-27 16:34:48] l3f : own up now
[2016-12-27 16:34:51] l3f : haha
[2016-12-27 16:35:06] ett1 : me?
[2016-12-27 16:35:18] ett1 : im long
[2016-12-27 16:35:36] imapotato : Who in their right mind would sell bitcoin
[2016-12-27 16:35:46] ett1 : a miner
[2016-12-27 16:35:52] ett1 : should have held
[2016-12-27 16:35:52] Nerve : l3f: me
[2016-12-27 16:35:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `WINZ16`: sell 100 @ 0.001643
[2016-12-27 16:35:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `WINZ16`: sell 160 @ 0.001642
[2016-12-27 16:36:08] l3f : Nerve: need to work on your buy and hold technique
[2016-12-27 16:36:09] imapotato : wtf is win
[2016-12-27 16:36:33] ett1 : buy and sell. but dont short (unless your an arb)
[2016-12-27 16:36:33] Nerve : l3f: lol
[2016-12-27 16:37:01] thomaskikansha : wow
[2016-12-27 16:37:11] imapotato : huobi on its way to another rally high
[2016-12-27 16:37:16] imapotato : finex lagging behind, but will catch up
[2016-12-27 16:37:43] ett1 : stamp is such a laggard
[2016-12-27 16:37:56] imapotato : bearstamp is to be ignored
[2016-12-27 16:38:25] ett1 : whats everyone watching. okcoin?
[2016-12-27 16:38:29] imapotato : no
[2016-12-27 16:38:32] imapotato : finex and huobi
[2016-12-27 16:39:10] l3f : btcchyna
[2016-12-27 16:39:58] justinlooking : everything ;)
[2016-12-27 16:40:26] Nerve : @l3f it will drop again
[2016-12-27 16:41:02] imapotato : nerve wearing shorts?
[2016-12-27 16:41:22] ett1 : naked
[2016-12-27 16:42:11] Nerve : imapotato: hahahah @ett1 is right
[2016-12-27 16:42:48] Nerve : is there a strong support at 940 ?
[2016-12-27 16:42:55] imapotato : finex dead
[2016-12-27 16:43:05] imapotato : complete graveyard
[2016-12-27 16:43:09] mariomarco : rekted-ed'd
[2016-12-27 16:43:16] mjones : stamp dumping
[2016-12-27 16:43:31] mariomarco : ohnoez
[2016-12-27 16:43:32] mjones : could hit $900 easily
[2016-12-27 16:43:40] ett1 : flashcrash
[2016-12-27 16:43:52] bingbongfly : Maybe a retrace back to 870 to test support
[2016-12-27 16:43:53] mariomarco : lol
[2016-12-27 16:44:08] mariomarco : how about NOOOO Sco
[2016-12-27 16:44:10] mjones : someone put some some larger buys to prevent a bigger crash
[2016-12-27 16:44:15] mariomarco : Scotty
[2016-12-27 16:44:36] Headroom : yes ? who called me ?
[2016-12-27 16:44:50] mariomarco : beam us up
[2016-12-27 16:45:15] ett1 : im telling you its a flash
[2016-12-27 16:45:28] ett1 : btfd if u still have margin
[2016-12-27 16:45:44] ett1 : 920 is the resistance/support
[2016-12-27 16:45:49] ett1 : on stamp*
[2016-12-27 16:46:02] ett1 : like 930 here is strong support
[2016-12-27 16:46:29] bingbongfly : dont btfd
[2016-12-27 16:46:36] bingbongfly : Bad move
[2016-12-27 16:46:54] ett1 : hodl
[2016-12-27 16:47:31] dodic : hodor!
[2016-12-27 16:49:48] memes : lol I need it to reach 940 so I can exit my stupidly high long
[2016-12-27 16:50:10] shery : memes: haha
[2016-12-27 16:50:29] shery : memes: i was screaming not to buy just short
[2016-12-27 16:50:56] memes : but if I shorted price would go up
[2016-12-27 16:51:06] memes : :P
[2016-12-27 16:51:47] Tr : btce 908
[2016-12-27 16:51:51] Tr : they know whats up
[2016-12-27 16:52:16] memes : lol btc-e
[2016-12-27 16:52:25] ett1 : the short scalpers are funny
[2016-12-27 16:55:35] l3f : bulltrend's over guys
[2016-12-27 16:55:37] l3f : short to zero
[2016-12-27 16:56:16] mjones : roger that
[2016-12-27 16:56:20] ett1 : bitcoin was a failed experiement
[2016-12-27 16:56:27] mjones : it was a good attempt
[2016-12-27 16:56:31] memes : noooo must hit 940 first
[2016-12-27 16:57:01] ett1 : the underlying blockchain technology is worth looking into however
[2016-12-27 16:57:05] Tr : get CEO of huobi on the phone
[2016-12-27 16:57:12] Tr : he can set the price to w/e u need
[2016-12-27 16:57:19] memes : ah right cool
[2016-12-27 16:57:20] mjones : lol Tr
[2016-12-27 16:57:25] memes : I'll get on that
[2016-12-27 16:57:38] mjones : china heard our prayers. okcoin pumping price back up
[2016-12-27 16:58:18] mjones : even stamp climbed back up
[2016-12-27 16:59:44] tommygunn : wow no rekt's and my 32 order filled thanks
[2016-12-27 17:00:09] ett1 : we are in mania phase
[2016-12-27 17:01:25] ett1 : http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-H8RFgy9eReM/UufwYFGiuRI/AAAAAAAACJ0/Vssi4ltLGy4/s1600/TheMostFamousBubbleChartAcademics.png we are at denial
[2016-12-27 17:02:14] bingbongfly : ett1: we are at takeoff! :D
[2016-12-27 17:02:43] ett1 : this will end badly
[2016-12-27 17:02:57] themav : hey trolls and/or support i have a questions. Does the realized PNL (based on the swap) fees, does that get deducted from my wallet or from my open position (i.e. if open position why does my liquidation price not rise?). And if from wallet, what would happen if i did not have any funds in my wallet at the time of the swap fee settlement?
[2016-12-27 17:03:42] themav : thanks in advance?
[2016-12-27 17:03:42] ett1 : themav: i asked that ealier. your position wont be liquidated. dont worry
[2016-12-27 17:03:53] ett1 : but you might need to sell and rebuy
[2016-12-27 17:04:03] imapotato : themav: have you tried going long?
[2016-12-27 17:04:03] ett1 : to increase margin if you want to use more leverage
[2016-12-27 17:04:04] imapotato : try going long
[2016-12-27 17:04:05] themav : that's not what im worried about - just trying to understand the fees
[2016-12-27 17:04:19] themav : neither, just trying to understand
[2016-12-27 17:04:25] elmorte : Realised PNL is a done deal
[2016-12-27 17:04:35] themav : and that gets deducated from my wallet?
[2016-12-27 17:04:38] ett1 : the fees normally come from wallet, but will come from realised PNL if your wallet goes to zero as i undertand it
[2016-12-27 17:04:42] elmorte : yup
[2016-12-27 17:04:44] themav : oh
[2016-12-27 17:04:45] imapotato : just long bitcoin if you want to make money
[2016-12-27 17:04:47] ett1 : i cant guarantee thats the care tho
[2016-12-27 17:04:50] themav : thanks!
[2016-12-27 17:04:57] elmorte : Both get deducted. one from available balance, the other from total
[2016-12-27 17:05:02] ett1 : i asked same earleir
[2016-12-27 17:05:24] elmorte : If you look at your wallet, you will notice the bar for Urealised PNL...
[2016-12-27 17:05:25] themav : right, but if you have not enough money in balance, it gets deducted form the position as ett1 said?
[2016-12-27 17:05:38] themav : ^realized
[2016-12-27 17:05:46] ett1 : i havnt experienced it yet, but my wallet is low
[2016-12-27 17:05:59] ett1 : i learned that the position will be fine from wally
[2016-12-27 17:06:16] elmorte : themav: it can only move from U to R PNL if you reduce the position
[2016-12-27 17:06:16] ett1 : im also struggling with margin. but have plenty og unrealised PNL
[2016-12-27 17:06:22] ett1 : i need to sell to unlock it
[2016-12-27 17:06:45] elmorte : Otherwise it's locked in UPnL
[2016-12-27 17:06:48] themav : right, elmorte, but what i want to understand is what happens if i have no money in my wallet at the time of fee settlement
[2016-12-27 17:06:56] themav : locked?
[2016-12-27 17:07:09] elmorte : ohh, the fees for the following period are included in the margin AFAIK
[2016-12-27 17:07:39] l3f : what happens if you get hit with the fee but have 0 avaliable balance?
[2016-12-27 17:07:40] ett1 : themav: yes i think it starts to be deducted from margin instead
[2016-12-27 17:07:49] elmorte : but if you leave it for too long, you could get liqd
[2016-12-27 17:07:50] l3f : ett1: no that can't happen
[2016-12-27 17:07:52] ett1 : thats what were asking
[2016-12-27 17:07:54] l3f : they can't let fees liquidate you
[2016-12-27 17:07:59] l3f : bitmex: help?
[2016-12-27 17:08:12] BitMEX_Greg : l3f: Hi how can I help?
[2016-12-27 17:08:18] themav : question abut fees
[2016-12-27 17:08:34] l3f : what happens if you get hit by fees (on the swap) while having 0 account balance?
[2016-12-27 17:08:40] themav : ^^
[2016-12-27 17:09:03] l3f : BitMEX_Greg:
[2016-12-27 17:09:06] mjones : Your liquidation price moves up
[2016-12-27 17:09:18] BitMEX_Greg : I believe that since you margin reduces, this affects your liquidation price and thus you get margin called
[2016-12-27 17:09:26] l3f : BitMEX_Greg: so you can get liquidated by fees
[2016-12-27 17:09:33] BitMEX_Greg : l3f: They are not fees
[2016-12-27 17:09:38] BitMEX_Greg : This is funding
[2016-12-27 17:09:40] l3f : fine swap interest
[2016-12-27 17:09:42] l3f : funding
[2016-12-27 17:09:51] themav : So, to be clear, the fees from the swap get deducted from your wallet, unless you don't have money in your wallet, at which case the fees get deducted from your position?
[2016-12-27 17:09:52] BitMEX_Greg : Completely separate. BitMEX does not take any % of the funding.
[2016-12-27 17:10:03] BitMEX_Greg : themav: @l3f Guys, they are not fees
[2016-12-27 17:10:09] BitMEX_Greg : It is termed Funding
[2016-12-27 17:10:13] l3f : BitMEX_Greg: sorry not fees, funding
[2016-12-27 17:10:15] l3f : I meant funding
[2016-12-27 17:10:15] BitMEX_Greg : It is paid between longs and shorts only
[2016-12-27 17:10:16] themav : sorry, the funding
[2016-12-27 17:10:16] ett1 : sure
[2016-12-27 17:10:20] themav : right
[2016-12-27 17:10:22] ett1 : sure
[2016-12-27 17:10:32] l3f : So you can be liquidated by funding
[2016-12-27 17:10:33] ett1 : thats irrelevant to what were asking
[2016-12-27 17:10:36] BitMEX_Greg : If you do not have sufficient margin to pay the funding, then your position will be liquidated essentially
[2016-12-27 17:11:08] themav : ok, so the funding comes from your walllet unless you don't have money in the wallet, at which case it gets deducted from the position?
[2016-12-27 17:11:12] XBT_Saver : BitMEX_Greg: Hey Greg, can you tell me why the XBTZ16 instrument 's expiry date is the 30th rather than the 31st? Thanks.
[2016-12-27 17:11:23] BitMEX_Greg : themav: Correct
[2016-12-27 17:11:30] themav : nice thanks greg!!!
[2016-12-27 17:11:34] BitMEX_Greg : XBT_Saver: All BitMEX contracts expire on a Friday
[2016-12-27 17:11:39] BitMEX_Greg : Which happens to be the 30th
[2016-12-27 17:11:42] elmorte : XBT_Saver: so we can celebrate the fckin NY?
[2016-12-27 17:12:11] ett1 : BitMEX_Greg: liquidated as in margin called, or closed at a posfit?
[2016-12-27 17:12:29] BitMEX_Greg : ett1: The position is liquidated
[2016-12-27 17:12:31] l3f : ett1: same thing
[2016-12-27 17:12:36] BitMEX_Greg : Right
[2016-12-27 17:12:37] mjones : Margin call because price went below your liquidation price
[2016-12-27 17:12:45] ett1 : ok
[2016-12-27 17:16:17] halloz : Hi everyone
[2016-12-27 17:18:14] Tr : stamp suspecing that huobi price means as much as MtGox's 1250?
[2016-12-27 17:21:00] mjones : 0kcoin breaking out again
[2016-12-27 17:22:07] mariomarco : leg UPP
[2016-12-27 17:22:27] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: announcement for etcwin is the 28th at 12 utc, what is 12 utc : midnight or midday (i think the second, but would like to be sure)
[2016-12-27 17:23:39] justinlooking : definitely second
[2016-12-27 17:23:50] justinlooking : midnight utc is always 0
[2016-12-27 17:24:03] sleger : why are people buying etcwin at 0.0021 then ??
[2016-12-27 17:24:24] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: 12:00 UTC, midday.
[2016-12-27 17:24:26] mjones : maybe good news tomorrow and it'll pump
[2016-12-27 17:24:29] sleger : they really think it will be listed in 24 h ?
[2016-12-27 17:24:36] sleger : less than 24h
[2016-12-27 17:24:40] justinlooking : sleger: NFI about etcwin
[2016-12-27 17:25:04] MikeHunt : damn i just got back from family outting
[2016-12-27 17:25:05] MikeHunt : i was right
[2016-12-27 17:25:08] MikeHunt : it did go up
[2016-12-27 17:25:10] MikeHunt : damn
[2016-12-27 17:25:40] mjones : last 5 30 minutes candles are wicking
[2016-12-27 17:25:42] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: So yeah 7am EST, usual settlement times. We will make an announcement
[2016-12-27 17:26:06] sleger : is there any news anywhere about etcwin ?
[2016-12-27 17:26:10] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: thank you
[2016-12-27 17:26:17] BitMEX_Greg : np
[2016-12-27 17:26:46] BitMEX_Greg : btw yeah keep me updated if you get time for a coffee when you pass by NY
[2016-12-27 17:27:06] javierstone : BitMEX_Greg: u are in ny?
[2016-12-27 17:27:24] BitMEX_Greg : javierstone: Yes
[2016-12-27 17:27:37] javierstone : BitMEX_Greg: nice
[2016-12-27 17:27:41] javierstone : city?
[2016-12-27 17:28:09] BitMEX_Greg : I'm just outside the city actually, moved away from it a few months back. But yeah its a pretty interesting place
[2016-12-27 17:29:33] MikeHunt : is it still bad like crime-wise?
[2016-12-27 17:29:52] elmorte : sleger: not to my knowledge, which is limited to news searches of Google and Baidu
[2016-12-27 17:30:05] BitMEX_Greg : It seems a lot better than how it has been described in movies and TV shows.
[2016-12-27 17:30:34] sleger : nyc is super safe
[2016-12-27 17:30:55] mjones : nyc just removes all trashcans for new years eve as a precaution
[2016-12-27 17:31:38] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah, you will see dozens of cops around too
[2016-12-27 17:32:16] halloz : Never been to NY - maybe I'll spend some of my profits visiting there lol :D
[2016-12-27 17:32:17] elmorte : Yeah, but you only have to worry if you're not white, right?
[2016-12-27 17:32:34] emperortrump : zcash breaking out again on polo
[2016-12-27 17:32:37] javierstone : nyc is safe
[2016-12-27 17:32:50] javierstone : retardedly safe
[2016-12-27 17:32:54] javierstone : atleast under obama
[2016-12-27 17:32:58] halloz : elmorte: That's Chicago
[2016-12-27 17:32:59] javierstone : trump is a new world
[2016-12-27 17:32:59] halloz : lol
[2016-12-27 17:33:07] elmorte : Singapore is safe
[2016-12-27 17:33:16] javierstone : elmorte: yer mom's bedroom is safer
[2016-12-27 17:33:21] elmorte : I don't think they're in the same league
[2016-12-27 17:33:25] javierstone : exactly
[2016-12-27 17:33:31] elmorte : javierstone: yeah, coz you never got in
[2016-12-27 17:33:33] BitMEX_Greg : elmorte: Yeah Singapore is really safe, but having said that it's pretty boring
[2016-12-27 17:33:35] memes : your money will go further there too
[2016-12-27 17:33:44] justinlooking : can anyone share a pattern to get "best bid that is not me" via api? what i've got is a complete obomination
[2016-12-27 17:33:46] javierstone : safe cities are boring
[2016-12-27 17:33:46] elmorte : BitMEX_Greg: SG is sterile to the max...
[2016-12-27 17:33:57] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah i lived there for a number of years,
[2016-12-27 17:34:02] sleger : sg feels like disney world
[2016-12-27 17:34:04] memes : Aleppo is a great holiday destination
[2016-12-27 17:34:08] javierstone : sg = singapore?
[2016-12-27 17:34:12] BitMEX_Greg : yea
[2016-12-27 17:34:30] javierstone : sao paolo was a good happy medium ebtween safe and fun
[2016-12-27 17:34:32] javierstone : its prolly fukt now
[2016-12-27 17:34:52] sleger : sao paolo is dangerous
[2016-12-27 17:35:18] javierstone : sleger: ya but it was fun as fuk
[2016-12-27 17:35:19] sleger : people dont stop at red lights at night for a reason
[2016-12-27 17:35:32] halloz : I've seen too many off-duty cop videos from there lol
[2016-12-27 17:35:47] javierstone : before the olympics and world cup, brasil was the best country in the world ot visit
[2016-12-27 17:35:58] javierstone : pumpy pumpy time
[2016-12-27 17:36:02] sleger : btcjpy at 110k