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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-12-27 14:59:38] happy : lol [2016-12-27 15:00:19] imapotato : It's time to buy. Look at the 3 minute XD [2016-12-27 15:00:27] Nerve : 942 will be good for a re-start to 1k [2016-12-27 15:01:23] l3f : it's gotta consolidate [2016-12-27 15:01:28] l3f : people have to be able to buy in [2016-12-27 15:01:31] ett1 : imapotato: my short is nearly REKT. should i revers. i think 935 is likely [2016-12-27 15:01:40] l3f : otherwise the price will fall straight though without bagholders [2016-12-27 15:02:24] imapotato : I think 980 likely [2016-12-27 15:02:25] happy : ok coin price went up to 6690 [2016-12-27 15:02:40] happy : Sorry I mean Huobi [2016-12-27 15:02:44] imapotato : Banks are open and deposits will be hitting exchanges with FOMO [2016-12-27 15:02:54] ett1 : hahah [2016-12-27 15:02:57] shery : happy: third red will form on 15m 6660 ccoming [2016-12-27 15:04:16] m3s : imapotato: I can confirm this a lot of my coworkers doing it as we speak [2016-12-27 15:05:02] ett1 : m3s: you work in finance? [2016-12-27 15:05:25] m3s : ett1: nope, software eng. but I think it is an indicator [2016-12-27 15:05:31] imapotato : No, m3s is an engineer [2016-12-27 15:05:39] happy : shery: what's the price target? 920? [2016-12-27 15:06:13] ett1 : 940 for me [2016-12-27 15:06:19] ett1 : but i think it will continue higher [2016-12-27 15:06:24] ett1 : man its gonna break ATH [2016-12-27 15:06:31] ett1 : dont worry about today and next few days [2016-12-27 15:06:36] tommygunn : smart people want to be part of the network, been like that for years. [2016-12-27 15:06:49] ett1 : catch the big move from 800 to 1200 and dont worry about the swings and wasting fees [2016-12-27 15:06:52] ett1 : thats gambling [2016-12-27 15:07:39] ett1 : tommygunn: smart people couldnt give a shit and just need an instrument to trade thats going up [2016-12-27 15:07:58] imapotato : I'm not gambling you're gambling [2016-12-27 15:08:16] zanza : .375 coming [2016-12-27 15:08:18] ett1 : who cares about building stuff & block size limits. i could be trading cow dung if i thought it was becoming scarce [2016-12-27 15:08:57] tommygunn : actually people do use the bitcoin net [2016-12-27 15:09:10] tommygunn : myself included [2016-12-27 15:09:21] ett1 : yes, so do i. its been the same from day 1 [2016-12-27 15:09:23] imapotato : I use BTC [2016-12-27 15:10:13] ett1 : im saying that all these startup & investors in them [2016-12-27 15:10:25] ett1 : are gonna follow the S&P / venture capital [2016-12-27 15:10:32] ett1 : its an equity play [2016-12-27 15:10:35] imapotato : I'm going to get ready for the day. How about 950 at finex when I come back? [2016-12-27 15:10:52] rafa : Do futures settle at the bitmex spot price on settlement day? [2016-12-27 15:11:09] ett1 : smart people dont care about changing the world or being innovative. they only care about R.O.I [2016-12-27 15:11:11] imapotato : There is no Bitmex spit [2016-12-27 15:11:15] imapotato : spot* [2016-12-27 15:11:41] rafa : True, so what is the settlement price ? [2016-12-27 15:11:54] ett1 : rafa: mark i think [2016-12-27 15:12:51] imapotato : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT30M [2016-12-27 15:13:08] imapotato : rafa: [2016-12-27 15:13:20] rafa : Is it [2016-12-27 15:13:27] rafa : thanks [2016-12-27 15:14:21] rafa : given high funding, the december futures seem attractive dont they? Or am i missing something? [2016-12-27 15:14:45] ett1 : right now yes [2016-12-27 15:14:55] ett1 : futures only 0.6% premium [2016-12-27 15:15:21] Nerve : boring action... [2016-12-27 15:15:41] ett1 : if you are exiting swaps, to go into futures, you have to think about fees. and is settlement soon [2016-12-27 15:15:51] ett1 : Nerve: u srs [2016-12-27 15:16:30] rafa : Agreed, wont change into, but will buy futures instead of perp maybe [2016-12-27 15:16:38] rafa : Thanks for the info [2016-12-27 15:17:15] ett1 : rafa: if you are thinking about march fututr. beware that premium is flaoting. [2016-12-27 15:17:17] ett1 : now at 7% [2016-12-27 15:17:22] ett1 : but was at 5% [2016-12-27 15:17:39] Nerve : i see only RED lines... [2016-12-27 15:17:44] Nerve : :( [2016-12-27 15:17:56] ett1 : so swaps could fall 1% but futures crash 3% if premium rate falls. [2016-12-27 15:18:09] Nerve : shorts gets rekt....longs get rekt too... [2016-12-27 15:18:39] ett1 : not really, depends how far away theor exit was [2016-12-27 15:18:49] ett1 : or how quick to turn arounf their positions [2016-12-27 15:19:08] ett1 : i held long [2016-12-27 15:19:08] rafa : Yeah, im thinking more about dec futures which are less than 1% prem while funding is capped [2016-12-27 15:19:24] ett1 : wanted to ad at 860 but that would have brought my liq up so i couldnt [2016-12-27 15:20:37] mjones : december closes in like 69 hours [2016-12-27 15:20:38] ett1 : rafa: perms can also have premium so might pump/dump more in the short term. i agree with your startegy tho. dec seems more suited if your likely to hold a long for a few days and expecting a rising market [2016-12-27 15:21:04] mjones : and is $14 higher so it's gonna fall a bit unless BTC keeps pumping [2016-12-27 15:21:07] ett1 : dec could also trade at a discount [2016-12-27 15:21:33] ett1 : it could fall a lot possible. just beware of that risk. it can go -1% potentially [2016-12-27 15:21:44] ett1 : but i wouldnt expect that [2016-12-27 15:22:37] l3f : I remember when futures were 820 [2016-12-27 15:22:49] mjones : i would just buy march futures and ride the premium up more [2016-12-27 15:23:06] mjones : me 2 l3f [2016-12-27 15:23:17] mjones : i shorted futures at 850 and closed 820 [2016-12-27 15:23:22] ett1 : i think march premium is going to fall to 4-5% [2016-12-27 15:23:25] mjones : now $200 higher :) [2016-12-27 15:23:28] ett1 : not ride to 10% or whatever [2016-12-27 15:23:46] mjones : if btc continues pumping it'll go up more [2016-12-27 15:23:49] ett1 : buy them on a dip [2016-12-27 15:24:02] ett1 : theyve stayed 7% pretty constant [2016-12-27 15:24:10] mjones : but if BTC has a size able dip then premium will drop a bit. [2016-12-27 15:24:55] ett1 : okcoin 3m futures average about 4% [2016-12-27 15:25:34] ett1 : ranges between 0 and 8 with not much outliers beyound that [2016-12-27 15:28:46] rafa : Understood, will watch from sidelines till i understand it better...thanks a lot for your help guys. Much clearer now [2016-12-27 15:31:22] javierstone : moar moar moar [2016-12-27 15:34:41] anondran : MOOON [2016-12-27 15:35:01] imapotato : here we go again [2016-12-27 15:35:08] imapotato : last chance to buy this $4 dip [2016-12-27 15:36:10] mjones : oshi whoever just closed better fomo back in [2016-12-27 15:36:21] ett1 : if you want an easy trade. buy the 946 break [2016-12-27 15:36:32] asksome1 : new here - help [2016-12-27 15:36:38] mjones : talk to me [2016-12-27 15:36:39] imapotato : asksome1: go 100x long [2016-12-27 15:36:48] happy : waiting for people get rekt [2016-12-27 15:36:55] mjones : wait for a dump then happy [2016-12-27 15:36:57] imapotato : or maybe just 3x, or 5x [2016-12-27 15:36:57] asksome1 : my unrealised PNL is basically 0 but the realised is .5 [2016-12-27 15:36:59] javierstone : SHORTS BOUT TO SHART [2016-12-27 15:37:10] asksome1 : am i break even or down .5? [2016-12-27 15:37:21] javierstone : is it red or green [2016-12-27 15:37:23] imapotato : hoobi 6700 [2016-12-27 15:37:28] asksome1 : unrealised is green [2016-12-27 15:37:30] asksome1 : realised is red [2016-12-27 15:37:35] imapotato : red is loss [2016-12-27 15:37:42] mjones : no one cares about huobi or btcc [2016-12-27 15:37:50] asksome1 : so the unrealised is profit or loss BEFORE the fees? [2016-12-27 15:37:56] imapotato : China cares about hoobi [2016-12-27 15:38:00] happy : fading @ 0.2376% [2016-12-27 15:38:02] imapotato : India probably cares a little about hoobi [2016-12-27 15:38:22] mjones : unrealized is just based on mark price. your realized profit depends on where you close in the orderbook [2016-12-27 15:38:46] mjones : and fees of course [2016-12-27 15:38:52] happy : out of steam? [2016-12-27 15:38:58] imapotato : lol, bearstamp goes down while the rest of the world goes up [2016-12-27 15:39:02] asksome1 : thanks - still a bit hazy. i get what you're saying...sort of [2016-12-27 15:39:20] asksome1 : realized profit/loss rarely changes though...only once every bunch of hours. so i assumed this was the fees on the contract [2016-12-27 15:39:44] asksome1 : then i thought the unrealised is the profit or loss if i were to close at the current market price AFTER it's factored in the fees [2016-12-27 15:39:54] asksome1 : but you're saying unrealised +/- is BEFORE those fees [2016-12-27 15:40:09] Ebit : Hey do I lose all my money when I get liquidated? [2016-12-27 15:40:11] imapotato : asksome1: If you deposit 1 BTC, you have 0 unrealized and 0 realized. If you go long and the price moves down, you might end up with -0.25 BTC unrealized. If you sell/close when it's down, you would have 0 unrealized and -0.25 BTC realized with a 0.75 BTC balance remaining. [2016-12-27 15:40:21] imapotato : Ebit: Depends [2016-12-27 15:40:33] mjones : unrealized is just your position based on mark price. if you close higher or lower than the mark price then your profit / loss will be different based on what you see [2016-12-27 15:40:37] Ebit : or id my position simply closed at market price and i can take wahtever profits [2016-12-27 15:41:04] imapotato : 50x if finex breaks 940 [2016-12-27 15:41:09] asksome1 : hmmmm ok. sort of over my head but think i get it [2016-12-27 15:41:17] mjones : Ebit: if you are using Cross leverage and get liquidated you lose your whole account [2016-12-27 15:41:28] mjones : if you stick to 25x then you just lose what you put into the position [2016-12-27 15:41:34] imapotato : ELI5: cross [2016-12-27 15:41:47] l3f : blasting off [2016-12-27 15:41:50] Ebit : what is cross leverage? I have a position opened with 20x leverage [2016-12-27 15:42:12] mjones : cross means your whole available balance is used before you get liqudated [2016-12-27 15:42:12] imapotato : I'm guessing cross just fixes your leverage and auto buys/sells to keep it the same after profit/loss? [2016-12-27 15:42:19] l3f : Ebit: cross means use all of my account as leverage [2016-12-27 15:42:37] ett1 : cross is like 100x. it lets you use the meximum. if you use 10x or 50x, the balance of you wallet is safe [2016-12-27 15:42:50] ett1 : but with cross your while balance will be used as margin [2016-12-27 15:42:57] ett1 : i dont recommend it [2016-12-27 15:43:10] mjones : and you can click that little box next to 100x and enter any leverage you want [2016-12-27 15:43:14] Ebit : oh so if i deposit more btc into my account but is not in my position would that help? [2016-12-27 15:43:16] ett1 : better to be aware of where your liq is. using the slider forces that [2016-12-27 15:43:20] mjones : so if you want to go 30x long you can [2016-12-27 15:43:37] ett1 : yes [2016-12-27 15:43:42] ett1 : or 50x or 100x [2016-12-27 15:43:46] ett1 : it will let you [2016-12-27 15:43:48] imapotato : $934.02 liq price [2016-12-27 15:43:53] l3f : ya all on extremely leveraged longs [2016-12-27 15:43:54] imapotato : jk, hueheuhuehe [2016-12-27 15:43:56] l3f : sell a bit when in profit [2016-12-27 15:44:01] l3f : and add it back to margin [2016-12-27 15:44:09] l3f : lots of shakeouts ahead [2016-12-27 15:44:11] anondran : Ebit: https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin [2016-12-27 15:44:24] mjones : 788 users. bitmex blowing up [2016-12-27 15:44:33] ett1 : l3f: add back to margin, and increase some more [2016-12-27 15:44:33] javierstone : ya there are some shorts that are barely hanging on i imagine [2016-12-27 15:44:34] imapotato : deserved [2016-12-27 15:44:36] Ebit : thanks all [2016-12-27 15:44:36] ett1 : when you hit the limit [2016-12-27 15:44:37] justinlooking : let the power of rekt compel you [2016-12-27 15:44:43] javierstone : its coming [2016-12-27 15:44:51] l3f : 950 here already [2016-12-27 15:44:53] l3f : the fomo's real [2016-12-27 15:45:15] rapidtrades : WHERE WERE YOU WHEN BITCOIN HIT A NEW ALL-TIME HIGH? [2016-12-27 15:45:31] shery : i like when market is flcutuaating like this [2016-12-27 15:45:33] imapotato : http://i.imgur.com/GVFbI3L.gif [2016-12-27 15:45:34] imapotato : I was in the happening bunker [2016-12-27 15:45:45] l3f : imapotato: it moved up 10 used [2016-12-27 15:45:54] l3f : usd* [2016-12-27 15:45:56] l3f : as promised [2016-12-27 15:46:11] rapidtrades : this looks to be my best and worst trade of the year [2016-12-27 15:46:13] rullwull : the next fibo on weekly is 966 [2016-12-27 15:46:31] mjones : rapidtrades: so many noobs that much money will be made on the dump. but when will the dump come [2016-12-27 15:46:56] imapotato : where were you when fiat was kill [2016-12-27 15:47:38] sleger : rapidtrades: is habibi kapputt ? [2016-12-27 15:48:01] rapidtrades : idk i think he's on holiday [2016-12-27 15:48:11] imapotato : prince habibu? [2016-12-27 15:48:14] javierstone : cny futures about to hi 6700 [2016-12-27 15:48:15] Rado : haven't seen him in a long itme [2016-12-27 15:48:28] imapotato : hububu is chewing gum [2016-12-27 15:49:21] rapidtrades : sleger: @Rado u guys still on this train? [2016-12-27 15:49:26] shery : dont buy nnow, buy when it dips , tis is obviously top for now [2016-12-27 15:49:31] sleger : yes of course @rapidtrades [2016-12-27 15:49:58] Rado : rapidtrades: I sold 30k from my 50k position [2016-12-27 15:49:58] l3f : sleger: where do you see bitcoin? [2016-12-27 15:50:08] rapidtrades : Rado: weak hand [2016-12-27 15:50:10] sleger : l3f: on my bottom left screen [2016-12-27 15:50:14] Rado : yeah [2016-12-27 15:50:26] l3f : sleger: haha, the fact you're here give me confidence [2016-12-27 15:50:38] sleger : reduced half as well recently, the premium was too good to resist [2016-12-27 15:50:49] l3f : sleger: your x1? [2016-12-27 15:50:55] sleger : ? [2016-12-27 15:51:02] l3f : what do you mean by reduced half? [2016-12-27 15:51:10] l3f : I thought you were hedging with -x1 [2016-12-27 15:51:16] l3f : a part of your capital [2016-12-27 15:51:29] ett1 : long futres, short swap [2016-12-27 15:51:36] ett1 : futures premium was hi [2016-12-27 15:51:40] rapidtrades : it means he took 0.35% over infinite gains [2016-12-27 15:51:41] sleger : no i hedged part of my btc, and a couple of hours ago i hedged a bit more [2016-12-27 15:51:57] sleger : still net long but less [2016-12-27 15:51:58] ett1 : rapidtrades: lol [2016-12-27 15:52:09] javierstone : so is that the move, short the swp while longing hte futures [2016-12-27 15:52:14] rapidtrades : I almost unhedged the small short i have here [2016-12-27 15:52:26] rapidtrades : looked really bullish a 910 [2016-12-27 15:52:29] ett1 : this isnt the time to hedge [2016-12-27 15:52:33] ett1 : long and sting bmy friends [2016-12-27 15:52:38] ett1 : strong* [2016-12-27 15:53:02] l3f : sleger: did you learn to trade on fx or stocks? [2016-12-27 15:53:11] l3f : how did you start? [2016-12-27 15:53:41] sleger : i just do maths [2016-12-27 15:54:25] sleger : and statistics [2016-12-27 15:55:22] rapidtrades : what does the math say about 50% gain in 3 months? [2016-12-27 15:55:25] ett1 : what returns do u target [2016-12-27 15:55:50] sleger : rapidtrades: that's pretty good [2016-12-27 15:56:03] sleger : 100% a year @ett1 [2016-12-27 15:56:50] ett1 : cool, ye i'm targeting 50-200% but long bias [2016-12-27 15:56:51] justinlooking : rapidtrades: it says 100% gains over 6 months dummy [2016-12-27 15:57:13] rapidtrades : yeah im sure it will keep going forever [2016-12-27 15:57:40] sleger : justinlooking: 50% in 3 months is not 100% in 6 months, you're the dummy [2016-12-27 15:57:50] sleger : :p [2016-12-27 15:58:04] ett1 : rapidtrades: it wil probably keep making higher lows and stabalise way above my entry [2016-12-27 15:58:06] justinlooking : mighta known u'd pick me up on that :P [2016-12-27 15:58:07] ett1 : i have stops [2016-12-27 15:58:24] firecasey : man a short here is tempting [2016-12-27 15:58:31] sleger : tell that to habibi [2016-12-27 15:58:37] sleger : or jung1 [2016-12-27 15:58:40] l3f : firecasey: shorting a pump [2016-12-27 15:58:46] l3f : the classic mistake [2016-12-27 15:59:01] firecasey : some people would call it Contrarian [2016-12-27 15:59:04] sleger : habibi lasted longer than i thought he would ! [2016-12-27 15:59:06] firecasey : and make bank [2016-12-27 15:59:08] ett1 : its too high. just look at how fast it has gone. unsustainable [2016-12-27 15:59:10] XBT_Saver : Does anyone know why the XBTZ16 instrument 's expiry date is the 30th rather than the 31st? [2016-12-27 15:59:23] mjones : settlement is on friday [2016-12-27 15:59:39] sleger : XBT_Saver: bitcoins are closed on saturday [2016-12-27 15:59:54] XBT_Saver : sleger: lol [2016-12-27 16:00:10] NL007 : any news on etcwin? [2016-12-27 16:00:26] mjones : sounds like spot trading starts tomorrow [2016-12-27 16:00:37] Derreck : Chinese Finance ministry spokesman Sum Ting Wong says that the minstry will be investigating currency manipulation in Bitcoin. [2016-12-27 16:00:46] sleger : mjones: link ? [2016-12-27 16:00:48] rapidtrades : no way [2016-12-27 16:00:52] mjones : just read it in trollbox here [2016-12-27 16:00:55] rapidtrades : CITATION NEEDED [2016-12-27 16:01:00] mjones : and Derreck they dont care about 15 billion dollar market cap [2016-12-27 16:01:26] mjones : and maybe i was being trolled because i searched and couldnt find any etcwin news about tomorrow trading [2016-12-27 16:01:50] ett1 : theyll care when its $1.5Tn [2016-12-27 16:02:19] javierstone : lol [2016-12-27 16:03:03] Derreck : mjones: don't have one, read this in the Zerohedge comment section [2016-12-27 16:03:25] javierstone : Derreck: even more credible than the ZH blog itself [2016-12-27 16:03:52] javierstone : did the commenter see it on a bloomberg terminal? [2016-12-27 16:04:44] Tr : Sum Ting Wong says that the minstry will be investigating currency manipulation in Bitcoin. [2016-12-27 16:04:45] Tr : any source? [2016-12-27 16:04:52] Derreck : javierstone: dunno [2016-12-27 16:06:27] lockhedge : Tr: Xiao Jie is the Chinese finance minister. "Sum Ting Wong" is very likely a joke name for "something wrong" [2016-12-27 16:06:53] Derreck : lockhedge: spokesman [2016-12-27 16:08:05] Tr : bitfinex tripple top? [2016-12-27 16:08:24] sleger : thanks to sumtingwong news i panicked sold : 945.99 20000 15:01:19 AM S [2016-12-27 16:08:25] mjones : in b4 bitmex lags due to dozens of longs being margin called at the same time [2016-12-27 16:08:41] Tr : support broke [2016-12-27 16:08:42] Tr : its going down [2016-12-27 16:09:12] mjones : in b4 china saves the price and pumps above 6700 cny [2016-12-27 16:09:31] Tr : maybe their are dumping on news [2016-12-27 16:09:35] Tr : and will reveal hack soon [2016-12-27 16:09:38] Tr : after they are done shorting [2016-12-27 16:09:49] imapotato : uhh [2016-12-27 16:09:51] imapotato : can we moon again please [2016-12-27 16:09:54] rapidtrades : SIM TING WONG SAYS CHINA WILL LOOK INTO A BAN ON BITCOIN [2016-12-27 16:10:02] Tr : GG BITCOIN BANNED [2016-12-27 16:10:10] Tr : 404 Bitcoins not found [2016-12-27 16:10:15] Derreck : lol [2016-12-27 16:10:35] rapidtrades : SPOKESWOMAN VEWY WONG CONFIRMS THE STATEMENT [2016-12-27 16:10:51] Tr : 6666 [2016-12-27 16:10:52] Tr : get out [2016-12-27 16:10:55] imapotato : >Sum Ting Wong [2016-12-27 16:10:56] Tr : satan is short [2016-12-27 16:10:57] imapotato : this is joke, right?] [2016-12-27 16:11:05] dodic : satan always shorts [2016-12-27 16:11:28] dodic : if its hits 6666 again it goes to 800 [2016-12-27 16:11:28] Mike17 : Yes [2016-12-27 16:11:44] l3f : dip buyers strong [2016-12-27 16:12:08] dodic : quantum computers came out today, cryptocurrencies are dead [2016-12-27 16:12:12] imapotato : I swear to god if a Sum Ting Wong joke pops this rally, I'll be pissed. [2016-12-27 16:12:24] Naloxone : Bitmex is getting smarter. Looks like no one longed the top with 100x [2016-12-27 16:12:34] dodic : thank god [2016-12-27 16:12:34] bingbongfly : we going down! [2016-12-27 16:12:44] Derreck : imapotato: so its a confirmed fake? [2016-12-27 16:12:47] Tr : holy shit [2016-12-27 16:12:53] dodic : a little REKT is fun but I hope no one gets totally destroyed [2016-12-27 16:12:53] Tr : China gov LOOKING into bitcoin [2016-12-27 16:12:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 5000 @ 6924.3 [2016-12-27 16:12:57] mjones : 100x short time [2016-12-27 16:13:00] Tr : its BANNED guys [2016-12-27 16:13:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: sell 2000 @ 943.30 [2016-12-27 16:13:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: sell 1000 @ 942.90 [2016-12-27 16:13:07] imapotato : >100x 100x is dangerous. Only go 25x [2016-12-27 16:13:07] dodic : bitcoin was a scam [2016-12-27 16:13:11] Tr : China abandoned us [2016-12-27 16:13:21] shery : short it [2016-12-27 16:13:23] arbitrage001 : crash inc [2016-12-27 16:13:25] arbitrage001 : sell now [2016-12-27 16:13:29] ett1 : ponzi shceme [2016-12-27 16:13:33] arbitrage001 : train to 150 leaving soon [2016-12-27 16:13:34] dodic : though 6666, satan short [2016-12-27 16:13:38] arbitrage001 : bitcoin is a ponzi [2016-12-27 16:13:45] arbitrage001 : sell now [2016-12-27 16:13:50] rapidtrades : SATAN SAYS BITCOIN IS COOL [2016-12-27 16:13:56] arbitrage001 : yes [2016-12-27 16:14:09] rapidtrades : GUZMAN CONFIRMED AS SATOSHI [2016-12-27 16:14:09] arbitrage001 : if you worship satan, buy btc [2016-12-27 16:14:10] mjones : china buying the dip hard [2016-12-27 16:14:16] Tr : Satan shorting bitcoin on 666x leverage [2016-12-27 16:14:16] imapotato : baw god i had a family [2016-12-27 16:14:18] justinlooking : rofl GUZMAN [2016-12-27 16:14:21] arbitrage001 : hitler said bitcoin is cool [2016-12-27 16:14:30] sleger : arbitrage001: wow dude [2016-12-27 16:14:31] sleger : limits [2016-12-27 16:14:43] arbitrage001 : sleger: hallo, sleger [2016-12-27 16:14:44] imapotato : You know damn well Hitler would have confiscated paper wallets as he went through Europe. [2016-12-27 16:14:47] imapotato : Brains wallets OP [2016-12-27 16:15:02] rapidtrades : dam that could be a thing in the future [2016-12-27 16:15:13] mjones : wonder why china wont just let the price fall. always gotta buy it back up [2016-12-27 16:15:15] rapidtrades : its only 12-24 words too, doable [2016-12-27 16:15:36] imapotato : 12 words can move $millions across a border [2016-12-27 16:15:37] shery : mjones: they want weak hands left behind [2016-12-27 16:15:43] Tr : mjones its ponzi money buying the coins [2016-12-27 16:15:58] shery : mmm money [2016-12-27 16:15:59] imapotato : RIP weak hands and 100Xers [2016-12-27 16:16:07] imapotato : be safe, play 25x long the whole rally [2016-12-27 16:16:10] Tr : create fake sell wall with fake coins as Huobi admin [2016-12-27 16:16:15] Tr : and market buy it with fake CNY [2016-12-27 16:16:17] Tr : repeat [2016-12-27 16:16:19] rapidtrades : keep ur money in ur brain and hope u don't get Alzheimer:) [2016-12-27 16:16:23] Tr : now its 940 bucks [2016-12-27 16:16:28] ett1 : beware of bitcoin get rich schemes & business opportunities [2016-12-27 16:16:29] imapotato : china says no drop, return to normal [2016-12-27 16:16:34] imapotato : 6700 minutes away [2016-12-27 16:16:43] shery : haha china playing [2016-12-27 16:17:14] Naloxone : This pump, that started 2 weeks ago is a scum for real. 80% of it is an artificial demand created by the Chinese bots [2016-12-27 16:17:23] imapotato : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmclgO6w0C0 [2016-12-27 16:17:37] sleger : Naloxone: u short ? [2016-12-27 16:17:44] imapotato : China is the new Willy [2016-12-27 16:17:56] imapotato : Except China's pockets are actually deep [2016-12-27 16:18:29] Tr : they have zero fees for easier manipulation [2016-12-27 16:18:34] Tr : thats the whole reason behind it [2016-12-27 16:18:42] Naloxone : sleger: yes, from 941.50. But can admit this scum can last longer and we will break 1000$ [2016-12-27 16:19:27] Tr : This is just like ETC pump scam [2016-12-27 16:19:32] Tr : everyone knew its fake [2016-12-27 16:19:37] Tr : question was how long they will push it [2016-12-27 16:19:44] imapotato : $5 below the rally high at the moment Bitcoin confirmed dead [2016-12-27 16:20:24] Tr : if Huobi goes offline for 5 minutes price plummets [2016-12-27 16:20:50] Tr : its basically HuobiCoin at this point [2016-12-27 16:21:21] rapidtrades : HUOBI HACKED BY FINEX RENEGADES [2016-12-27 16:21:59] ett1 : trouble in bitcoinland [2016-12-27 16:22:11] imapotato : What? Huobi was hacked for 20000k bitcoins? [2016-12-27 16:22:12] imapotato : oh no dump [2016-12-27 16:22:29] l3f : imapotato: that's literally the only thing that can stop this pump now [2016-12-27 16:22:45] imapotato : pump stopped [2016-12-27 16:22:47] imapotato : huobi confirmed hack [2016-12-27 16:22:50] imapotato : only logical explanation [2016-12-27 16:23:08] happy : when did that happened [2016-12-27 16:23:09] imapotato : we've been sideways for a solid 3 hours now [2016-12-27 16:23:10] rapidtrades : TRUMP HACKS BITMEX IN CONFUSION ABOUT NAME [2016-12-27 16:23:20] Naloxone : I feel like Okcoin and Huobi are using the same bot [2016-12-27 16:23:21] imapotato : I'm just saying, have you ever seen Trump and Huobi in the same place at the same time? [2016-12-27 16:24:03] Tr : this rebuying is what was happening on MtGox everytime price was dropping abit [2016-12-27 16:24:17] Tr : is the Karpeles the hidden CEO of Huobi> [2016-12-27 16:24:22] Tr : who knows [2016-12-27 16:24:40] imapotato : https://nytimes.com/confirmed/articles/Trump-confirmed-hodlin-100x-long-bitcoin [2016-12-27 16:25:03] rapidtrades : IS TRUMP USING THE US TREASURY TO SECRETLY PUMP BITCOIN? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-27/trump-bitcoin-us-treasury [2016-12-27 16:25:42] imapotato : https://cnn.com/news/current-year/trump-pumps-bitcoin-on-national-television [2016-12-27 16:25:49] rapidtrades : lol imagine if there's a bot scrapping the chat right now....it will go nuts [2016-12-27 16:26:05] imapotato : RIP natural language processors [2016-12-27 16:26:09] dodic : that would be hilarious [2016-12-27 16:26:19] dodic : all exchanges HACKED [2016-12-27 16:26:30] dodic : -20% [2016-12-27 16:26:46] dodic : bitcoin to replace us dollar [2016-12-27 16:26:50] dodic : +20% [2016-12-27 16:26:56] imapotato : +9000% [2016-12-27 16:27:11] dodic : yeah the would be more like it [2016-12-27 16:27:28] ett1 : Modi's Vision of a Bitcoin India http://www.businessinsider.com/modis-india-bitcoin-vision-2016-12 [2016-12-27 16:27:46] imapotato : -20%, +20% => -4% by the way [2016-12-27 16:28:42] l3f : man fuck this swap cancer [2016-12-27 16:28:48] l3f : total usuary [2016-12-27 16:28:52] imapotato : no you're cancer [2016-12-27 16:28:56] l3f : imapotato: i am [2016-12-27 16:28:59] mjones : lol okcoin 2000 btc pump wall in place [2016-12-27 16:29:01] imapotato : trade quarterly [2016-12-27 16:29:13] l3f : imapotato: I'm moving [2016-12-27 16:29:24] imapotato : mufasa [2016-12-27 16:29:26] imapotato : (move faster) [2016-12-27 16:30:53] ett1 : l3f: wait until H17 goes into disount [2016-12-27 16:30:56] Nerve : we are going down... [2016-12-27 16:31:09] l3f : Nerve: lol no [2016-12-27 16:31:14] mjones : someone is making 6700 cny support [2016-12-27 16:31:15] imapotato : Nerve: 6690 huobi, sorry [2016-12-27 16:31:20] Nerve : pump doesnț work [2016-12-27 16:31:20] imapotato : Almost fully recovered from that trap [2016-12-27 16:31:36] ett1 : l3f: im not buying at 7%. i think thats high [2016-12-27 16:31:50] ett1 : okcoin 3M futurs average 4% [2016-12-27 16:31:57] ett1 : ranges 0-8% usually [2016-12-27 16:32:11] ett1 : has spiked into discount and >10% but short lived [2016-12-27 16:32:12] imapotato : make premiums great again [2016-12-27 16:32:15] mjones : okcoin pump wall back [2016-12-27 16:32:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCZ16`: buy 6500 @ 6715.7 [2016-12-27 16:32:38] imapotato : rip shorts [2016-12-27 16:32:39] l3f : lol [2016-12-27 16:33:02] mjones : hope you all bought the dip [2016-12-27 16:33:06] ett1 : l3f: funding will go negative, H16 will crash and go low premium/discount [2016-12-27 16:33:16] ett1 : and then i will buy that shit up for myself mwuhahaha [2016-12-27 16:33:16] dodic : lol how much leverage was there to get rekt there [2016-12-27 16:33:21] l3f : ett1: not with this atomosphere [2016-12-27 16:33:30] ett1 : yes not now [2016-12-27 16:33:36] ett1 : next peak/pullback [2016-12-27 16:34:17] imapotato : 6700 huobi [2016-12-27 16:34:45] l3f : who got scared and sold? [2016-12-27 16:34:48] l3f : own up now [2016-12-27 16:34:51] l3f : haha [2016-12-27 16:35:06] ett1 : me? [2016-12-27 16:35:18] ett1 : im long [2016-12-27 16:35:36] imapotato : Who in their right mind would sell bitcoin [2016-12-27 16:35:46] ett1 : a miner [2016-12-27 16:35:52] ett1 : should have held [2016-12-27 16:35:52] Nerve : l3f: me [2016-12-27 16:35:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `WINZ16`: sell 100 @ 0.001643 [2016-12-27 16:35:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `WINZ16`: sell 160 @ 0.001642 [2016-12-27 16:36:08] l3f : Nerve: need to work on your buy and hold technique [2016-12-27 16:36:09] imapotato : wtf is win [2016-12-27 16:36:33] ett1 : buy and sell. but dont short (unless your an arb) [2016-12-27 16:36:33] Nerve : l3f: lol [2016-12-27 16:37:01] thomaskikansha : wow [2016-12-27 16:37:11] imapotato : huobi on its way to another rally high [2016-12-27 16:37:16] imapotato : finex lagging behind, but will catch up [2016-12-27 16:37:43] ett1 : stamp is such a laggard [2016-12-27 16:37:56] imapotato : bearstamp is to be ignored [2016-12-27 16:38:25] ett1 : whats everyone watching. okcoin? [2016-12-27 16:38:29] imapotato : no [2016-12-27 16:38:32] imapotato : finex and huobi [2016-12-27 16:39:10] l3f : btcchyna [2016-12-27 16:39:58] justinlooking : everything ;) [2016-12-27 16:40:26] Nerve : @l3f it will drop again [2016-12-27 16:41:02] imapotato : nerve wearing shorts? [2016-12-27 16:41:22] ett1 : naked [2016-12-27 16:42:11] Nerve : imapotato: hahahah @ett1 is right [2016-12-27 16:42:48] Nerve : is there a strong support at 940 ? [2016-12-27 16:42:55] imapotato : finex dead [2016-12-27 16:43:05] imapotato : complete graveyard [2016-12-27 16:43:09] mariomarco : rekted-ed'd [2016-12-27 16:43:16] mjones : stamp dumping [2016-12-27 16:43:31] mariomarco : ohnoez [2016-12-27 16:43:32] mjones : could hit $900 easily [2016-12-27 16:43:40] ett1 : flashcrash [2016-12-27 16:43:52] bingbongfly : Maybe a retrace back to 870 to test support [2016-12-27 16:43:53] mariomarco : lol [2016-12-27 16:44:08] mariomarco : how about NOOOO Sco [2016-12-27 16:44:10] mjones : someone put some some larger buys to prevent a bigger crash [2016-12-27 16:44:15] mariomarco : Scotty [2016-12-27 16:44:36] Headroom : yes ? who called me ? [2016-12-27 16:44:50] mariomarco : beam us up [2016-12-27 16:45:15] ett1 : im telling you its a flash [2016-12-27 16:45:28] ett1 : btfd if u still have margin [2016-12-27 16:45:44] ett1 : 920 is the resistance/support [2016-12-27 16:45:49] ett1 : on stamp* [2016-12-27 16:46:02] ett1 : like 930 here is strong support [2016-12-27 16:46:29] bingbongfly : dont btfd [2016-12-27 16:46:36] bingbongfly : Bad move [2016-12-27 16:46:54] ett1 : hodl [2016-12-27 16:47:31] dodic : hodor! [2016-12-27 16:49:48] memes : lol I need it to reach 940 so I can exit my stupidly high long [2016-12-27 16:50:10] shery : memes: haha [2016-12-27 16:50:29] shery : memes: i was screaming not to buy just short [2016-12-27 16:50:56] memes : but if I shorted price would go up [2016-12-27 16:51:06] memes : :P [2016-12-27 16:51:47] Tr : btce 908 [2016-12-27 16:51:51] Tr : they know whats up [2016-12-27 16:52:16] memes : lol btc-e [2016-12-27 16:52:25] ett1 : the short scalpers are funny [2016-12-27 16:55:35] l3f : bulltrend's over guys [2016-12-27 16:55:37] l3f : short to zero [2016-12-27 16:56:16] mjones : roger that [2016-12-27 16:56:20] ett1 : bitcoin was a failed experiement [2016-12-27 16:56:27] mjones : it was a good attempt [2016-12-27 16:56:31] memes : noooo must hit 940 first [2016-12-27 16:57:01] ett1 : the underlying blockchain technology is worth looking into however [2016-12-27 16:57:05] Tr : get CEO of huobi on the phone [2016-12-27 16:57:12] Tr : he can set the price to w/e u need [2016-12-27 16:57:19] memes : ah right cool [2016-12-27 16:57:20] mjones : lol Tr [2016-12-27 16:57:25] memes : I'll get on that [2016-12-27 16:57:38] mjones : china heard our prayers. okcoin pumping price back up [2016-12-27 16:58:18] mjones : even stamp climbed back up [2016-12-27 16:59:44] tommygunn : wow no rekt's and my 32 order filled thanks [2016-12-27 17:00:09] ett1 : we are in mania phase [2016-12-27 17:01:25] ett1 : http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-H8RFgy9eReM/UufwYFGiuRI/AAAAAAAACJ0/Vssi4ltLGy4/s1600/TheMostFamousBubbleChartAcademics.png we are at denial [2016-12-27 17:02:14] bingbongfly : ett1: we are at takeoff! :D [2016-12-27 17:02:43] ett1 : this will end badly [2016-12-27 17:02:57] themav : hey trolls and/or support i have a questions. Does the realized PNL (based on the swap) fees, does that get deducted from my wallet or from my open position (i.e. if open position why does my liquidation price not rise?). And if from wallet, what would happen if i did not have any funds in my wallet at the time of the swap fee settlement? [2016-12-27 17:03:42] themav : thanks in advance? [2016-12-27 17:03:42] ett1 : themav: i asked that ealier. your position wont be liquidated. dont worry [2016-12-27 17:03:53] ett1 : but you might need to sell and rebuy [2016-12-27 17:04:03] imapotato : themav: have you tried going long? [2016-12-27 17:04:03] ett1 : to increase margin if you want to use more leverage