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[2016-12-27 06:24:11] halloz : Ill buy ur contract for a penny less
[2016-12-27 06:24:20] halloz : aww lol
[2016-12-27 06:33:09] ett1 : yawn
[2016-12-27 06:37:06] narnarfromnarnia : this is so ded
[2016-12-27 06:37:16] narnarfromnarnia : i just want 895 to get out and rest by now
[2016-12-27 06:37:39] happy : gl
[2016-12-27 06:38:22] ett1 : its hugging the trendline
[2016-12-27 06:39:56] ayy_lmao : elmorte: happened to me too
[2016-12-27 06:39:59] ayy_lmao : multiple times
[2016-12-27 06:46:07] shery : narnarfromnarnia: shit i sold my long at 901 shit
[2016-12-27 06:46:27] narnarfromnarnia : oh
[2016-12-27 06:46:31] halloz : uh oh bears better be careful here
[2016-12-27 06:46:34] narnarfromnarnia : it's just a fakeer here
[2016-12-27 06:46:38] narnarfromnarnia : big fakerr
[2016-12-27 06:47:15] shery : narnarfromnarnia: it could go through the top any moment
[2016-12-27 06:47:30] narnarfromnarnia : shery: chart?
[2016-12-27 06:48:19] shery : narnarfromnarnia: 6450 seems to be strng enough , so it might go for a run in an hour, but if it failed we are in bearish market than
[2016-12-27 06:48:19] ett1 : shery: go long and strong
[2016-12-27 06:48:30] ett1 : shakeout
[2016-12-27 06:48:36] narnarfromnarnia : shery: ya
[2016-12-27 06:48:45] narnarfromnarnia : i think bear time because its not decisive now even
[2016-12-27 06:48:52] narnarfromnarnia : and we just saw cheap coins
[2016-12-27 06:48:56] narnarfromnarnia : bears gonna want more
[2016-12-27 06:48:56] shery : narnarfromnarnia: but if it passed through 6600, welcome 925 than
[2016-12-27 06:49:04] narnarfromnarnia : shery: yea
[2016-12-27 06:49:12] narnarfromnarnia : and if below 895
[2016-12-27 06:49:19] narnarfromnarnia : or 890
[2016-12-27 06:49:28] narnarfromnarnia : back down to 8650 or something
[2016-12-27 06:49:50] halloz : The fact that we are still here is bullish AF imo
[2016-12-27 06:51:48] ett1 : the fact we are in a tight range so long
[2016-12-27 06:53:52] narnarfromnarnia : lot of long now to squeeze
[2016-12-27 06:53:59] narnarfromnarnia : even if going ip
[2016-12-27 06:55:45] shery : narnarfromnarnia: we are heading up slowly, exactly after 1 hour and 5 mint we will have a pump time
[2016-12-27 06:55:53] elmorte : Damn blocks are full again...
[2016-12-27 06:57:23] halloz : better close dem shorts out
[2016-12-27 06:57:29] halloz : this is going up
[2016-12-27 06:57:49] narnarfromnarnia : halloz: they will pressure all the buyers from here on a drop first i think
[2016-12-27 06:58:07] narnarfromnarnia : but im wrong always so ya
[2016-12-27 06:58:13] shery : narnarfromnarnia: it will run hard any moment
[2016-12-27 06:58:22] halloz : Get out if you are short
[2016-12-27 06:59:10] narnarfromnarnia : halloz: its too late lol
[2016-12-27 06:59:19] halloz : :(
[2016-12-27 06:59:21] narnarfromnarnia : i tried at 898 it didn't hit
[2016-12-27 06:59:29] narnarfromnarnia : 898.11
[2016-12-27 06:59:48] narnarfromnarnia : watch for a good drop here
[2016-12-27 06:59:50] narnarfromnarnia : pls
[2016-12-27 07:00:10] shery : narnarfromnarnia: no drop only up
[2016-12-27 07:00:51] halloz : Market buy this shit lol
[2016-12-27 07:00:51] elmorte : Who keeps saying here that finex is used in the index? It's been kicked out since August
[2016-12-27 07:01:50] happy : keep going up ? or drp
[2016-12-27 07:02:13] immackay : guys bitcoin doesn't retrace
[2016-12-27 07:02:23] halloz : I dont think this is going to hammer like it did last night
[2016-12-27 07:02:40] halloz : we'll see
[2016-12-27 07:02:56] narnarfromnarnia : is weak
[2016-12-27 07:03:35] narnarfromnarnia : now will squeeze buyers lower perhaps
[2016-12-27 07:05:19] happy : going up to 920?
[2016-12-27 07:05:46] shery : slow pushs ,
[2016-12-27 07:06:53] deeprocks : withdrawal here requires email confirmation right?
[2016-12-27 07:07:22] narnarfromnarnia : halloz: i forgot to set sell
[2016-12-27 07:07:26] narnarfromnarnia : for last night too
[2016-12-27 07:07:37] narnarfromnarnia : got locked out since i left my phone at parents for xmas
[2016-12-27 07:07:40] narnarfromnarnia : no OTP
[2016-12-27 07:09:59] elmorte : deeprocks: yeah
[2016-12-27 07:10:02] halloz : That sucks - one thing I hate bout otp. Wish more sites used yubi keys
[2016-12-27 07:10:11] elmorte : You can use Authy too
[2016-12-27 07:10:22] elmorte : runs in Chrome
[2016-12-27 07:10:37] deeprocks : elmorte: good thing my poloniex account just got hacked and the hacker withdraw all funds to his address email saved me XD
[2016-12-27 07:10:56] elmorte : no 2FA??
[2016-12-27 07:11:09] deeprocks : elmorte: for poloniex no cause i don't have much there
[2016-12-27 07:11:14] deeprocks : and i rarely use it
[2016-12-27 07:11:36] deeprocks : but i am adding f2a now to bitmex and there too
[2016-12-27 07:11:40] happy : who said buy this ....at market price when the price offer was 909
[2016-12-27 07:11:44] elmorte : K...I have more than enough to warrant 2FA there...
[2016-12-27 07:11:59] narnarfromnarnia : happy: lol and watch it will go back to 890 now too
[2016-12-27 07:12:05] narnarfromnarnia : really freak those buyers out
[2016-12-27 07:12:10] narnarfromnarnia : chop
[2016-12-27 07:13:02] happy : narnarfromnarnia: you said this was bearish twice, and you got screwed.
[2016-12-27 07:13:21] narnarfromnarnia : yea i know i shouldn't have a trade open
[2016-12-27 07:13:34] narnarfromnarnia : just wishful thinking at this point but really a breakout might not come
[2016-12-27 07:14:32] happy : only with 10% money input currently. Will see
[2016-12-27 07:15:04] elmorte : Kaiko really monetizing that site...
[2016-12-27 07:15:12] elmorte : Selling historical orderbook data...
[2016-12-27 07:15:21] narnarfromnarnia : its painting a triple top here
[2016-12-27 07:15:26] elmorte : I wish they still had that mempool graphic though, that was cool
[2016-12-27 07:16:53] halloz : Or this gains momentum from here and punches though 920 without breaking a sweat
[2016-12-27 07:17:33] immackay : remember guys
[2016-12-27 07:17:37] immackay : bitcoin doesn't retrace
[2016-12-27 07:17:57] SkywalkerMcfly : so what exchanges does bitmex used for index?
[2016-12-27 07:18:55] elmorte : bitmex.kaiko.com
[2016-12-27 07:29:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4700 @ 906.41
[2016-12-27 07:29:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 39436 @ 916.00
[2016-12-27 07:29:51] happy : wow
[2016-12-27 07:30:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 324 @ 919.17
[2016-12-27 07:30:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCZ16`: buy 63000 @ 6563.6 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-27 07:30:07] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2016-12-27 07:30:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 907.73
[2016-12-27 07:30:30] paniktrade : whats xbcz16?
[2016-12-27 07:31:05] halloz : Lol
[2016-12-27 07:31:10] halloz : this was so obvious
[2016-12-27 07:31:30] happy : narnarfromnarnia: how are you
[2016-12-27 07:31:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 40000 @ 981.62
[2016-12-27 07:31:44] narnarfromnarnia : rekt
[2016-12-27 07:31:57] narnarfromnarnia : was only 100 bucks and i couldn't get out anyways
[2016-12-27 07:32:22] paniktrade : XBCZ16
[2016-12-27 07:32:25] paniktrade : whats that?
[2016-12-27 07:32:41] l3f : It's happening
[2016-12-27 07:33:00] zanza : are we mooming?
[2016-12-27 07:33:16] ett1 : watch this if you want to understand bitcoin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oe6UzVs7_Y
[2016-12-27 07:33:29] paniktrade : fuck why wont any1 tell what XBCZ16
[2016-12-27 07:33:29] paniktrade : is
[2016-12-27 07:33:36] ABHI7991 : expected price?
[2016-12-27 07:34:18] l3f : 1billion dollars
[2016-12-27 07:34:23] paniktrade : infinity dollars
[2016-12-27 07:34:29] happy : higher highs
[2016-12-27 07:34:42] ABHI7991 : will it touch 920 now?
[2016-12-27 07:34:47] zanza : looks like about 4% difficulty increase coming up
[2016-12-27 07:34:50] narnarfromnarnia : we'll see at 920 right
[2016-12-27 07:34:52] halloz : it will blow past 420
[2016-12-27 07:34:56] halloz : 920*
[2016-12-27 07:34:58] zanza : 420
[2016-12-27 07:35:02] narnarfromnarnia : or what are we looking for on china?
[2016-12-27 07:35:07] halloz : blaze up!
[2016-12-27 07:35:08] elmorte : great, my ADL light are all lit again...
[2016-12-27 07:35:29] halloz : okc blew past the top
[2016-12-27 07:36:38] happy : there will be another pop, waiting for Mark price coming up
[2016-12-27 07:37:17] happy : or not
[2016-12-27 07:37:22] narnarfromnarnia : happy: what is mark price mean again?
[2016-12-27 07:37:42] narnarfromnarnia : damn i just wanted to sleep
[2016-12-27 07:37:49] narnarfromnarnia : i had a close at 899 im an idiot
[2016-12-27 07:37:58] happy : the price can make people REKT
[2016-12-27 07:38:10] narnarfromnarnia : you are long or short?
[2016-12-27 07:38:16] elmorte : ffs...last block an hour ago. Wth miners...
[2016-12-27 07:38:20] happy : 10% long
[2016-12-27 07:38:39] ett1 : happy: huh
[2016-12-27 07:39:10] ABHI7991 : what does mark price mean
[2016-12-27 07:39:28] ett1 : its an average of the other btc exchanges
[2016-12-27 07:39:44] ett1 : like bitmex, okcoin...
[2016-12-27 07:39:52] ett1 : okc01n
[2016-12-27 07:41:04] zanza : not really
[2016-12-27 07:41:20] zanza : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking
[2016-12-27 07:41:24] imapotato : GET LONG - banks opening in a few hours
[2016-12-27 07:41:25] elmorte : ABHI7991: hover over it, it will give you further instructions
[2016-12-27 07:41:29] happy : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking
[2016-12-27 07:42:02] elmorte : Most things here you can just hover over
[2016-12-27 07:42:51] imapotato : Moooonbound baby
[2016-12-27 07:44:09] zanza : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-26/suicide-germany
[2016-12-27 07:44:18] elmorte : Mark price determines your Unrealised P&L...and is used for your liquidation as well
[2016-12-27 07:46:12] narnarfromnarnia : hmm
[2016-12-27 07:46:26] narnarfromnarnia : yeah i was wondering how they calc that
[2016-12-27 07:46:30] narnarfromnarnia : always a bit off
[2016-12-27 07:46:38] happy : Fair Price = Index Price * (1 + Funding Basis)
[2016-12-27 07:46:43] happy : Funding Basis = Funding Rate * (Time Until Funding / Funding Interval)
[2016-12-27 07:47:12] narnarfromnarnia : are we just waiting for a clear break at 660?
[2016-12-27 07:49:01] narnarfromnarnia : 960
[2016-12-27 07:49:06] narnarfromnarnia : 5600
[2016-12-27 07:49:11] narnarfromnarnia : im tired
[2016-12-27 07:49:17] narnarfromnarnia : why didn't this happen earlier
[2016-12-27 07:49:34] imapotato : Arize chikun. The banks will be opening.
[2016-12-27 07:49:37] imapotato : ARIZE
[2016-12-27 07:49:40] happy : 30mins chart
[2016-12-27 07:50:00] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.tradingview.com/x/gptqOZka/
[2016-12-27 07:51:41] imapotato : FAQ: Is it time to double my long?
[2016-12-27 07:52:00] imapotato : A: No, but soon probably. Wait until finex passes 920.
[2016-12-27 07:52:51] ett1 : imapotato: on a pullback
[2016-12-27 07:53:03] ett1 : or break of 920
[2016-12-27 07:53:07] j8 : XBTH17 is higher than XBCH17 now
[2016-12-27 07:53:15] m3s : damn funding is 30% of my profits :/
[2016-12-27 07:53:52] paniktrade : will get worse
[2016-12-27 07:53:52] imapotato : Oh god 916 finex here we go baby
[2016-12-27 07:53:54] ayy_lmao : welcome to bitmex!
[2016-12-27 07:55:00] ayy_lmao : where funding is high and liquidations are nigh!
[2016-12-27 07:55:21] m3s : ayy_lmao: any good alternative lol, this is killing me
[2016-12-27 07:55:39] ayy_lmao : okcoin, but i prefer bitmex
[2016-12-27 07:55:41] imapotato : What's funding
[2016-12-27 07:55:42] ayy_lmao : ok coin
[2016-12-27 07:56:04] imapotato : And why ever leave bitmex
[2016-12-27 07:56:39] ett1 : ayy_lmao: where leverage is high and ADL is nigh
[2016-12-27 07:56:46] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-12-27 07:57:23] m3s : problem is funding is compounding
[2016-12-27 07:58:01] wellerchang : SO REKT
[2016-12-27 07:58:05] imapotato : Wat funding
[2016-12-27 07:58:06] narnarfromnarnia : what is 6600cny at usd
[2016-12-27 07:58:08] ett1 : its good in a bear market. youll be thanking your in swaps later lol
[2016-12-27 07:58:33] ett1 : when the fututres are going into discount
[2016-12-27 07:58:38] ett1 : haha
[2016-12-27 07:58:56] ett1 : then you can buy them cheap
[2016-12-27 07:59:07] happy : 1usd = 6.95 cny
[2016-12-27 07:59:21] happy : 950usd
[2016-12-27 07:59:49] narnarfromnarnia : okay
[2016-12-27 07:59:54] narnarfromnarnia : ya 950 would be clear uptrend
[2016-12-27 08:00:08] narnarfromnarnia : 1k easy if there
[2016-12-27 08:00:31] imapotato : Are we not doing finex 920 quite yet?
[2016-12-27 08:00:37] imapotato : I will be very sad long time
[2016-12-27 08:01:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50 @ 911.59
[2016-12-27 08:01:23] imapotato : Whales. If you're out there reading this. Gimme da 920 b0ss.
[2016-12-27 08:03:31] l3f : imapotato: send a hotline to sleger
[2016-12-27 08:03:42] l3f : the man, the myth, the dream
[2016-12-27 08:03:50] l3f : "couple" hundred btc
[2016-12-27 08:03:57] l3f : in his wallet
[2016-12-27 08:04:57] wellerchang : i guess ill just go 100x long here and forget about it
[2016-12-27 08:05:08] halloz : :D
[2016-12-27 08:05:14] immackay : wellerchang: good choice
[2016-12-27 08:05:24] m3s : wellerchang: yolongs usually work out
[2016-12-27 08:05:55] wellerchang : yea it looks like its a winning strategy
[2016-12-27 08:06:07] wellerchang : just go long, it doesnt matter where
[2016-12-27 08:06:25] imapotato : Where does matter for 100x
[2016-12-27 08:06:37] imapotato : I think the right time is $920.01 finex
[2016-12-27 08:07:02] narnarfromnarnia : 925
[2016-12-27 08:07:13] l3f : this is the push to 905+
[2016-12-27 08:07:16] l3f : 950*
[2016-12-27 08:07:19] narnarfromnarnia : 920 too risky that's how i lost last time
[2016-12-27 08:07:30] l3f : nobody loses from buying and holding
[2016-12-27 08:07:31] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: maybe
[2016-12-27 08:07:33] imapotato : 920.01<---
[2016-12-27 08:07:36] narnarfromnarnia : but could be triple top
[2016-12-27 08:07:45] shery : narnarfromnarnia: you were shorting i guess???
[2016-12-27 08:07:47] narnarfromnarnia : i went long 920 got rekt
[2016-12-27 08:07:49] m3s : l3f: except if funding reks you
[2016-12-27 08:07:51] narnarfromnarnia : shery: ya
[2016-12-27 08:07:56] narnarfromnarnia : it's okay i start a new trade now
[2016-12-27 08:08:00] l3f : m3s: 100x yoloers deserve to lose everything
[2016-12-27 08:08:03] narnarfromnarnia : i just play small
[2016-12-27 08:08:14] narnarfromnarnia : when i win a lot i save it start fresh
[2016-12-27 08:08:24] shery : narnarfromnarnia: I closed my long at 901, but i am happy that my 908 long paid me uite well,
[2016-12-27 08:08:24] imapotato : Pawn your wife sell your kids
[2016-12-27 08:08:25] l3f : if your position can't handle a 10% retrace
[2016-12-27 08:08:26] m3s : l3f: ofcourse, I'm only 3x currently but still
[2016-12-27 08:08:32] imapotato : You need collateral for the 100x
[2016-12-27 08:08:32] narnarfromnarnia : that's good
[2016-12-27 08:08:36] narnarfromnarnia : did you get out already?
[2016-12-27 08:08:47] shery : narnarfromnarnia: yeah at 913
[2016-12-27 08:08:53] narnarfromnarnia : good
[2016-12-27 08:09:01] narnarfromnarnia : lil too soon
[2016-12-27 08:09:14] narnarfromnarnia : any real time chart for here?
[2016-12-27 08:09:17] narnarfromnarnia : trading view is lagging
[2016-12-27 08:09:19] shery : narnarfromnarnia: Things seems to have calmed down , or it mmight just stay here now
[2016-12-27 08:09:31] narnarfromnarnia : true
[2016-12-27 08:09:52] shery : narnarfromnarnia: No crashes so we might have a another leg up towards 920
[2016-12-27 08:10:04] imapotato : If -1% wipes you out, +10% will make you wealthy
[2016-12-27 08:10:11] imapotato : And which is more likely
[2016-12-27 08:10:25] m3s : ye just try the 100x strategy 10 times, should work out
[2016-12-27 08:11:30] imapotato : Even stamp and BitPay passed 908 now
[2016-12-27 08:11:54] narnarfromnarnia : is there anything real time like bitcoinwisdom?
[2016-12-27 08:11:59] shery : failling now shitt
[2016-12-27 08:12:00] narnarfromnarnia : for mex?
[2016-12-27 08:12:22] mjones : What a punk btc
[2016-12-27 08:12:27] narnarfromnarnia : those bots
[2016-12-27 08:12:41] wellerchang : so much for that 100x long
[2016-12-27 08:13:17] imapotato : Raise your longers
[2016-12-27 08:14:09] imapotato : If you're not 25x long you aren't my friend
[2016-12-27 08:14:58] mjones : Xbth17 was 1 away from new high
[2016-12-27 08:15:29] imapotato : Bull flag
[2016-12-27 08:15:32] mjones : 50 cents even
[2016-12-27 08:15:49] MrRGnome : imapotato: +1
[2016-12-27 08:17:53] wellerchang : i was about $1 away from liquidation before
[2016-12-27 08:17:58] wellerchang : praise satoshi
[2016-12-27 08:18:07] imapotato : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-26/commodity-futures-plunge-following-china-growth-downgrade
[2016-12-27 08:18:08] narnarfromnarnia : wellerchang: got a good trade at 100x?
[2016-12-27 08:18:17] shery : so that was a trap
[2016-12-27 08:18:43] ABHI7991 : 920
[2016-12-27 08:18:59] shery : ABHI7991: gir rha hy huobi dykho bha
[2016-12-27 08:19:39] imapotato : Do 100x long when finex is 920.01+
[2016-12-27 08:19:40] mjones : Btc where you going
[2016-12-27 08:19:54] narnarfromnarnia : imapotato: 930
[2016-12-27 08:19:56] m3s : imapotato: why is this so important. why 920+ and why finex
[2016-12-27 08:20:06] narnarfromnarnia : dumpage
[2016-12-27 08:20:22] mjones : Shery right now is a trap
[2016-12-27 08:20:32] wellerchang : ITS ALWAYS A TRAP
[2016-12-27 08:20:40] narnarfromnarnia : not even a trip top
[2016-12-27 08:20:42] imapotato : Because finex is the western exchange that matters and eastern exchanges are too wild with no fees
[2016-12-27 08:20:51] imapotato : 920.01 will be rally high on finex
[2016-12-27 08:21:02] ett1 : say i had 50% long in z16 and 50% long in h17
[2016-12-27 08:21:10] shery : narnarfromnarnia: Dont think so, strong pumps doesnt have charts like this
[2016-12-27 08:21:15] ett1 : would my liq be higher than if i had 100% in a single contract
[2016-12-27 08:21:27] narnarfromnarnia : shery: charts?
[2016-12-27 08:21:29] narnarfromnarnia : share pls
[2016-12-27 08:21:30] paniktrade : finex is just the dump spot for USD after the chinese exchange their CNY
[2016-12-27 08:21:35] ett1 : vs 50% in decenber & 50% in march
[2016-12-27 08:21:36] narnarfromnarnia : you have some drawn out points here?
[2016-12-27 08:21:45] shery : narnarfromnarnia: watch huobi 15m you will get everything
[2016-12-27 08:22:03] imapotato : I might go to sleep and just wake up for the 950+
[2016-12-27 08:22:09] narnarfromnarnia : but what about here on something like bitcoinwisdom?
[2016-12-27 08:22:23] ABHI7991 : shery: bhai chinese me likha aa raha h waha sab
[2016-12-27 08:22:47] imapotato : ABHI7991: wat
[2016-12-27 08:22:52] shery : ABHI7991: bitcoin wisom kholo, wahan sy houbi click karo
[2016-12-27 08:23:09] shery : ABHI7991: bitcoinwisdom . com
[2016-12-27 08:23:38] imapotato : Goodnight wake me at 920 to 100x through 950
[2016-12-27 08:23:43] ABHI7991 : shery: houbi follow karta hai kya bitmex?
[2016-12-27 08:24:23] shery : ABHI7991: yeah pooore dunya
[2016-12-27 08:25:04] wellerchang : trading bitcoin gives me horrible anxiety
[2016-12-27 08:25:46] ett1 : trade longer term
[2016-12-27 08:25:57] ett1 : like sweaty palms? lol
[2016-12-27 08:26:22] wellerchang : like please i need a xanax before my heart explodes
[2016-12-27 08:26:43] l3f : wellerchang: so does gambling
[2016-12-27 08:26:53] wurstgelee : wellerchang: lower your leverage and your position size
[2016-12-27 08:26:57] wurstgelee : youre in to deep
[2016-12-27 08:27:00] wurstgelee : that simple
[2016-12-27 08:27:04] wurstgelee : *too
[2016-12-27 08:27:11] ett1 : i feel like im in a high stake poker game thats been going on for days
[2016-12-27 08:27:29] ett1 : buy i love it
[2016-12-27 08:27:53] wurstgelee : if you cant sleep in a position (peacefully), you are doing it wrong :)
[2016-12-27 08:27:57] wellerchang : im going to have a panic attack and die
[2016-12-27 08:28:05] ett1 : lol
[2016-12-27 08:28:26] ett1 : risk whatever you can afford to lose max
[2016-12-27 08:28:28] immackay : 'just go long, it doesnt matter where" - wellerchang 22min ago
[2016-12-27 08:28:29] narnarfromnarnia : xanax no good
[2016-12-27 08:28:41] ett1 : sounds like a slippery slope
[2016-12-27 08:28:41] immackay : remember kids
[2016-12-27 08:28:41] narnarfromnarnia : dementia
[2016-12-27 08:28:45] immackay : bitcoin doesn't retrace
[2016-12-27 08:28:49] narnarfromnarnia : immackay: lol
[2016-12-27 08:28:58] narnarfromnarnia : last 920 it dump'd har
[2016-12-27 08:29:05] narnarfromnarnia : i was pumped last time then too
[2016-12-27 08:29:06] narnarfromnarnia : 40x
[2016-12-27 08:29:11] narnarfromnarnia : 50x i mean
[2016-12-27 08:29:14] narnarfromnarnia : 40btc
[2016-12-27 08:29:17] narnarfromnarnia : ready for it
[2016-12-27 08:29:28] narnarfromnarnia : i never sell or cancel my trade i need to learn stop loss
[2016-12-27 08:29:30] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: you need amphetiamines if you want a proper edge over the bots
[2016-12-27 08:29:31] wellerchang : if it goes up anymore, the next mega-rekt announcement is probably me
[2016-12-27 08:29:36] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-27 08:29:39] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/ms6RDjWz/ time for leg 2 approaching???
[2016-12-27 08:29:39] paniktrade : lolol
[2016-12-27 08:29:43] narnarfromnarnia : wellerchang: lol
[2016-12-27 08:29:51] narnarfromnarnia : wellerchang: you went short?
[2016-12-27 08:30:04] wellerchang : i have been short for way too long
[2016-12-27 08:30:24] wellerchang : days
[2016-12-27 08:30:54] narnarfromnarnia : aethlios: are you in a position now?
[2016-12-27 08:31:13] narnarfromnarnia : i can wait for 930 on finex to be for sure
[2016-12-27 08:31:25] narnarfromnarnia : then this time just going 10x long and sleeping easy
[2016-12-27 08:31:53] wellerchang : its gonna go up just that one little bit more
[2016-12-27 08:31:55] wellerchang : just to get me
[2016-12-27 08:32:11] wellerchang : its how it works
[2016-12-27 08:32:11] aethlios : narnarfromnarnia: I am in a long position from 575, but also trade the spread between swap and quarterly and receive funding from a hedged short in swap.
[2016-12-27 08:32:49] ett1 : ye im gonna do that
[2016-12-27 08:32:53] aethlios : I will get out when spot 1150 but sell the quarterly to earn 100 usd more from spread.
[2016-12-27 08:33:06] narnarfromnarnia : aethlios: it would be nice to understand that after long at 575
[2016-12-27 08:33:12] ett1 : was dec the first futures contract?
[2016-12-27 08:33:27] narnarfromnarnia : how does the spread work?
[2016-12-27 08:33:27] ett1 : i want to see longer term spread
[2016-12-27 08:33:47] narnarfromnarnia : hedged short means just payments only?
[2016-12-27 08:33:56] ett1 : whats high. 8%...10%...20%?
[2016-12-27 08:33:58] narnarfromnarnia : so just funding
[2016-12-27 08:34:09] mjones : Yes ett December was
[2016-12-27 08:34:46] narnarfromnarnia : aethlios: do you have those same fibs on finex?
[2016-12-27 08:34:49] narnarfromnarnia : for tv
[2016-12-27 08:35:07] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/hFXKZoiv/ I am posting bullisg charts two months now
[2016-12-27 08:35:21] elmorte : There have been futures contracts for as long as I can remember...
[2016-12-27 08:35:40] elmorte : BitMEX started as a futures only exchange AFAIK
[2016-12-27 08:35:54] elmorte : Swap is a relatively recent addition
[2016-12-27 08:36:09] elmorte : replaced the daily futures
[2016-12-27 08:36:28] bagofmoes : aethlios: nice chart
[2016-12-27 08:37:15] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/QAt7ES1s/ that was my basic chart when we were still 760.
[2016-12-27 08:38:28] aethlios : 1175, previous ATH will be tested 3 times at least. (theory at least says that)
[2016-12-27 08:45:46] rms : i'm thinking the real leg up is when the us banks open after their holiday and start processing wires
[2016-12-27 08:45:59] rms : as early as 7:00AM new york time?
[2016-12-27 08:46:12] Tr : rms its a myth
[2016-12-27 08:48:10] wellerchang : I LIVE.....for now
[2016-12-27 08:48:17] wellerchang : PRAISE SATOSHI
[2016-12-27 08:48:33] Tr : it this penta top?
[2016-12-27 08:48:35] wellerchang : we meet again 6500
[2016-12-27 08:49:08] wellerchang : you disrespected my family name, 6500
[2016-12-27 08:49:16] immackay : wellerchang: you short?
[2016-12-27 08:49:42] happy : narnarfromnarnia: do you ever sleep?
[2016-12-27 08:49:58] narnarfromnarnia : ya
[2016-12-27 08:50:03] wellerchang : i am short
[2016-12-27 08:50:12] narnarfromnarnia : wellerchang: what is liq price?
[2016-12-27 08:50:24] wellerchang : secret P)
[2016-12-27 08:50:44] narnarfromnarnia : what is break even to get out of trade?
[2016-12-27 08:50:56] wellerchang : too far away
[2016-12-27 08:51:00] narnarfromnarnia : 900 lol
[2016-12-27 08:51:04] narnarfromnarnia : oh
[2016-12-27 08:51:12] narnarfromnarnia : sorry i know the feels
[2016-12-27 08:51:37] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: breakeven id the entry price
[2016-12-27 08:51:51] narnarfromnarnia : ya what entry?
[2016-12-27 08:52:00] narnarfromnarnia : well you need a little better with fees
[2016-12-27 08:52:13] ett1 : it says, in the positions table
[2016-12-27 08:52:17] narnarfromnarnia : here
[2016-12-27 08:52:18] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.tradingview.com/x/XR5GDiOM/
[2016-12-27 08:52:22] ett1 : Entry price is breakeven
[2016-12-27 08:52:25] narnarfromnarnia : maybe this helps your nerves
[2016-12-27 08:52:32] ett1 : liquidation price is where you go bankrupt
[2016-12-27 08:53:37] narnarfromnarnia : ya i have like 3 bk emails in 48hrs
[2016-12-27 08:53:51] narnarfromnarnia : but i had a few really good trades so im not givin up
[2016-12-27 08:53:56] narnarfromnarnia : now getting smarter
[2016-12-27 08:54:41] narnarfromnarnia : if this breaks 925 we could see 950 easy so ill wait for 930
[2016-12-27 09:01:14] ABHI7991 : no movement at all
[2016-12-27 09:02:53] narnarfromnarnia : shery: so you basically just watch huobi 15m and trade here?
[2016-12-27 09:04:27] shery : narnarfromnarnia: Only when its in bullish nature, becouse at times it fluctuates 5-10 $ in matter of 5 mints, so trade with profit in quick time is better than everything
[2016-12-27 09:04:54] narnarfromnarnia : ya
[2016-12-27 09:05:30] shery : narnarfromnarnia: but it is quite unpredictable in last few days , made a few wrog trades
[2016-12-27 09:05:49] narnarfromnarnia : shery: but normally it is?
[2016-12-27 09:06:18] shery : I guess it wll be quite low when funding is near so shorting right now would be a good ide , for a quick profit
[2016-12-27 09:06:34] narnarfromnarnia : shery: in 3hr?
[2016-12-27 09:06:54] narnarfromnarnia : funding?
[2016-12-27 09:07:01] narnarfromnarnia : timer at the top.
[2016-12-27 09:07:29] shery : narnarfromnarnia: I will wait more for an hour entering in a spike, but seems like bitcoin will be quite for a while and will touch lower levels for a while. like 907
[2016-12-27 09:07:32] bernx : god, tons of short
[2016-12-27 09:07:40] bernx : just shorts everywhere
[2016-12-27 09:08:03] wellerchang : how can you see that
[2016-12-27 09:08:06] bernx : there will be short cascade
[2016-12-27 09:08:17] bernx : http://www.bitcoinity.org/markets/btcchina/CNY
[2016-12-27 09:08:40] shery : narnarfromnarnia: it was 9 $ below market at time of funding yesterday and funding is quite high today too
[2016-12-27 09:08:58] narnarfromnarnia : shery: okay where do you see that info
[2016-12-27 09:09:00] narnarfromnarnia : interesting
[2016-12-27 09:09:24] shery : narnarfromnarnia: I m acive mostly watching price differences , every time lol
[2016-12-27 09:10:32] narnarfromnarnia : bernx: thats a wall
[2016-12-27 09:11:10] shery : narnarfromnarnia: if market isnt bullish today we might slide down today too, towards 905 levels
[2016-12-27 09:11:53] narnarfromnarnia : almost have to stay awake now to see how we open
[2016-12-27 09:12:04] narnarfromnarnia : or whats best for alarms
[2016-12-27 09:15:28] narnarfromnarnia : shery: i think it will be bullish
[2016-12-27 09:17:21] narnarfromnarnia : maybe another run up again
[2016-12-27 09:17:24] narnarfromnarnia : huobi 15m
[2016-12-27 09:17:27] narnarfromnarnia : inching up
[2016-12-27 09:18:14] shery : narnarfromnarnia: i am out for now, i would love a pump towards 660+
[2016-12-27 09:18:33] narnarfromnarnia : 960
[2016-12-27 09:18:43] narnarfromnarnia : but i think 930 would be clear up
[2016-12-27 09:18:44] narnarfromnarnia : on finex
[2016-12-27 09:18:50] narnarfromnarnia : oh 6600
[2016-12-27 09:18:58] narnarfromnarnia : ya
[2016-12-27 09:19:11] narnarfromnarnia : but what will be the top i wonder
[2016-12-27 09:19:30] shery : narnarfromnarnia: i feel 1020-1050 we will reverse
[2016-12-27 09:19:38] narnarfromnarnia : wow
[2016-12-27 09:19:48] narnarfromnarnia : so it will be bigger swings at higher amounts
[2016-12-27 09:20:06] narnarfromnarnia : next all time high will be double last?
[2016-12-27 09:20:10] shery : narnarfromnarnia: it will be mega volitility at 1k
[2016-12-27 09:20:18] narnarfromnarnia : oh boy
[2016-12-27 09:20:34] shery : narnarfromnarnia: may be moving 20 4 in 5 mints lol
[2016-12-27 09:20:48] shery : narnarfromnarnia: 6532
[2016-12-27 09:20:55] narnarfromnarnia : we need a bot or trigger for orders
[2016-12-27 09:21:05] narnarfromnarnia : can we set a buy limit here
[2016-12-27 09:22:30] immackay : narnarfromnarnia: yes
[2016-12-27 09:22:45] immackay : you mean buying at a certain price?
[2016-12-27 09:22:50] immackay : switch to the limit order
[2016-12-27 09:22:52] narnarfromnarnia : buy order at 935 if hits while sleeping
[2016-12-27 09:22:59] narnarfromnarnia : i will be asleep when market opens
[2016-12-27 09:23:00] immackay : ahhh
[2016-12-27 09:23:11] immackay : trailing sto
[2016-12-27 09:23:14] immackay : trailing stop
[2016-12-27 09:23:27] happy : stop market
[2016-12-27 09:23:34] immackay : or yeah stop market
[2016-12-27 09:23:56] micmix : look like hidden sell @912.50 is over 100k
[2016-12-27 09:23:59] happy : if you buy limit at 935, your order will be filled with current sell offer
[2016-12-27 09:24:34] narnarfromnarnia : if we break through 6600 where is next?
[2016-12-27 09:24:36] narnarfromnarnia : 1k right away?
[2016-12-27 09:24:42] narnarfromnarnia : 1k dream
[2016-12-27 09:24:43] happy : hidden sell ?
[2016-12-27 09:24:53] narnarfromnarnia : no hidden
[2016-12-27 09:24:59] narnarfromnarnia : people can see my small amount lol
[2016-12-27 09:25:15] narnarfromnarnia : i have no position now but if we hit 940
[2016-12-27 09:25:19] narnarfromnarnia : i wanna buy triggered
[2016-12-27 09:25:28] narnarfromnarnia : contract open at 940
[2016-12-27 09:25:32] narnarfromnarnia : clear upward
[2016-12-27 09:25:56] micmix : there is a hidden sell wall @ 912.50
[2016-12-27 09:25:59] aethlios : this is a warm up for the epic bull market after we clear 1175 previous ATH, btc market cap already in new ATH.
[2016-12-27 09:26:34] l3f : might retrace first
[2016-12-27 09:26:57] l3f : since we aren't in pump mode
[2016-12-27 09:27:11] halloz : We're going up....
[2016-12-27 09:27:25] l3f : we've been going up for two years now
[2016-12-27 09:27:47] rapidtrades : yeah this is getting silly
[2016-12-27 09:27:51] halloz : and that's going to suddenly change tonight?
[2016-12-27 09:27:58] ett1 : cointinuation more likely than change
[2016-12-27 09:28:31] ett1 : rapidtrades: was $1 to $30 silly?
[2016-12-27 09:28:39] ett1 : $30 to $250?
[2016-12-27 09:28:49] ett1 : 250-1200
[2016-12-27 09:29:38] micmix : not silly at all, everyone should go long 50x-100x
[2016-12-27 09:29:46] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-27 09:30:54] micmix : funding is not at cap, we need more longers
[2016-12-27 09:30:56] ett1 : if 100x long bitcoin is silly, then i don't want to be sane
[2016-12-27 09:32:23] l3f : if gamblign doesn't make rich, then I don't want to be
[2016-12-27 09:33:20] ett1 : im not on 100x, but it can be a precision tool
[2016-12-27 09:34:46] narnarfromnarnia : xbt17 got to 1k almost
[2016-12-27 09:34:56] narnarfromnarnia : so that just means we're headed there right?
[2016-12-27 09:35:54] ett1 : no, xbt17 will always be above spot (unless some extreme circumstances) but converge to it by expiry date
[2016-12-27 09:36:10] ett1 : like z16 is now
[2016-12-27 09:36:25] ett1 : doesnt mean BTC will be above $1000 by then
[2016-12-27 09:36:51] immackay : rapidtrades: how's your night goign
[2016-12-27 09:37:01] immackay : ett1: what you up to
[2016-12-27 09:37:06] l3f : micmix: are you hedged and enjoying that sweet sweet interest?
[2016-12-27 09:37:21] ett1 : immackay: calmly watching this rise
[2016-12-27 09:37:25] micmix : l3f: yeah, funding is nice
[2016-12-27 09:37:28] ett1 : i want to see above 940
[2016-12-27 09:37:29] narnarfromnarnia : aethlios: so you hedge a 1x short to maintain solid equity so basically no liq price but leveraged?
[2016-12-27 09:37:34] narnarfromnarnia : is that right?
[2016-12-27 09:38:03] narnarfromnarnia : also shorts get paid that funding rate
[2016-12-27 09:38:11] ett1 : would have like to get during the last dip, but was too leveraged. dont want to bring up liq
[2016-12-27 09:39:19] aethlios : narnarfromnarnia: yes you can do that, but if you want leverage (more profit) you can go long quarterly and sell swap. if bull trand starts you gain from the widening of the spread and also start receiving funding fees.
[2016-12-27 09:40:19] aethlios : but need to get out early before correction happens. before spread shrinks.
[2016-12-27 09:40:38] ett1 : aethlios: instead of being long 10k h17
[2016-12-27 09:40:53] ett1 : why not long 15k h17 short 5k swaps
[2016-12-27 09:41:02] ett1 : what am i missing. free money?
[2016-12-27 09:41:07] narnarfromnarnia : quarterly is better than perpetual?
[2016-12-27 09:41:46] aethlios : there is no better, different products.
[2016-12-27 09:42:09] micmix : ett1: you're missing $75 premium on h17
[2016-12-27 09:42:16] aethlios : if you buy now quarterly and we dump to 800 you risk to pay 50 usd premium
[2016-12-27 09:42:33] micmix : *$65
[2016-12-27 09:43:11] aethlios : but if we go to 1200 and be long swap you risk to pay much funding. so depends from your perspective for the market what strategy and products you choose
[2016-12-27 09:43:55] micmix : everyone know we are going to 10k. go long everything, you can't lose
[2016-12-27 09:43:56] aethlios : micmix: some premium will still exist because of 3 month time value, so from 65 will shrink to 15
[2016-12-27 09:44:37] ett1 : aethlios: could we not have a bull move but spreads tighten