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[2016-12-27 01:56:08] narnarfromnarnia : Tr: when we're flat like this
[2016-12-27 01:56:09] narnarfromnarnia : ya
[2016-12-27 01:56:10] Speran49 : they have casinos for that
[2016-12-27 01:56:18] MikeHunt : so far im up $1.5k since 2013 bubble but i reckon i could do better
[2016-12-27 01:56:20] narnarfromnarnia : it's either black jack or this
[2016-12-27 01:56:38] narnarfromnarnia : it's fun making 1k or losing 1k a day
[2016-12-27 01:56:47] Speran49 : its fun?
[2016-12-27 01:56:49] Speran49 : 1k is a lot
[2016-12-27 01:56:49] Speran49 : lol
[2016-12-27 01:56:55] Speran49 : id rather make 200 a day and not lose it
[2016-12-27 01:56:59] narnarfromnarnia : ya i lost 2.6btc 2 days ago
[2016-12-27 01:57:01] narnarfromnarnia : so fun
[2016-12-27 01:57:09] Speran49 : shoulda listen to sherry and I
[2016-12-27 01:57:13] narnarfromnarnia : but would have been like 6btc
[2016-12-27 01:57:14] Speran49 : you'd have kept it
[2016-12-27 01:57:25] Speran49 : just go short
[2016-12-27 01:57:25] narnarfromnarnia : $2 to my liq price
[2016-12-27 01:57:35] traxor : MikeHunt I made 8K on Christmas Day -- Pure luck of course... :D
[2016-12-27 01:57:36] cookielito : long or short speran?
[2016-12-27 01:57:43] Speran49 : short.
[2016-12-27 01:57:45] MikeHunt : generally buying the dips on RSI 1hour is pretty sure bet for $$$$
[2016-12-27 01:58:03] MikeHunt : traxor: i would have made $1k if i had caught the china pumps in time
[2016-12-27 01:58:04] Speran49 : RSi 1 hr is clear down
[2016-12-27 01:58:06] Naloxone : I am done with Bitcoin for today, will long some ETCWIN better
[2016-12-27 01:58:59] traxor : I was serious about being lucky -- lol. Also -- as far as your indicators go -- once the 4hr MACD turns green -- imo, that means GO!
[2016-12-27 01:59:01] MikeHunt : Speran49: i usually wait til its around or bellow 30
[2016-12-27 01:59:11] cookielito : stay short
[2016-12-27 01:59:15] cookielito : but cover soon
[2016-12-27 01:59:29] Speran49 : i have specialized RSI that helps me a lot
[2016-12-27 02:00:06] MikeHunt : i use bitcoinwisdom
[2016-12-27 02:00:18] Speran49 : anyway, imma go read a book and keep an eye in background. Sitting here is waste of time ;)
[2016-12-27 02:00:31] Speran49 : if i am wrong, next bus in 10 mins hehe
[2016-12-27 02:00:35] Speran49 : remember that and you will never lose
[2016-12-27 02:01:59] MikeHunt : lol
[2016-12-27 02:02:53] traxor : MikeHunt: RSI is a MINOR indicator in most circumstances -- obviously the RSI divergence is important; otherwise 3rd to 5th down on the list. I'll step out now, since I'm a newcomer... Best of luck trading to EVERYONE here for the rest of the year!
[2016-12-27 02:03:41] Speran49 : all i use is RSI div. + fibs and s/r
[2016-12-27 02:03:43] Speran49 : :)
[2016-12-27 02:03:48] Speran49 : kiss
[2016-12-27 02:04:00] Nerve : narnarfromnarnia: OUCH
[2016-12-27 02:04:05] cookielito : dmt predicts flawlessly
[2016-12-27 02:04:15] cookielito : kidding
[2016-12-27 02:04:28] ett1 : s/r breakouts, donchian channels. i look at trendline, flag/triangles
[2016-12-27 02:04:37] ett1 : thats my TA
[2016-12-27 02:04:55] sleger : i look at morons in the chat and do the opposite, thats my TA
[2016-12-27 02:05:09] Speran49 : sleger: +!
[2016-12-27 02:05:13] Speran49 : sleger: +1
[2016-12-27 02:05:25] happy : lol
[2016-12-27 02:07:01] ett1 : my spidey sense is tingling
[2016-12-27 02:07:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: sell 10000 @ 901.68
[2016-12-27 02:07:27] arbitrage001 : good morning
[2016-12-27 02:07:34] arbitrage001 : how is everyone doing
[2016-12-27 02:07:45] arbitrage001 : getting rich?
[2016-12-27 02:07:53] sleger : ^he is a good trollbox indicator
[2016-12-27 02:07:59] ett1 : nothing changing
[2016-12-27 02:08:01] narnarfromnarnia : hold on to yer shorts
[2016-12-27 02:08:04] Speran49 : ahahahha
[2016-12-27 02:08:07] Speran49 : good to know sleger
[2016-12-27 02:08:20] arbitrage001 : i dont understand
[2016-12-27 02:08:25] Speran49 : i've found narnar to be a good opposite one as well ;)
[2016-12-27 02:08:31] sleger : that's the point @arbitrage001
[2016-12-27 02:09:22] narnarfromnarnia : Speran49: lol i've done alright before just got wiped
[2016-12-27 02:09:47] Speran49 : yeah i know im kidding. I don't care what anyone does. I follow my plan and mine only.
[2016-12-27 02:09:48] narnarfromnarnia : i keep forgeting that i don't have to trade everyday and i lose it
[2016-12-27 02:10:01] ett1 : you need to preserve your chips to play
[2016-12-27 02:10:03] Speran49 : you must learn patience. How old are you?
[2016-12-27 02:10:12] Speran49 : i dont think anyone below 26 should be trading
[2016-12-27 02:10:12] narnarfromnarnia : 1hr looks down to 888
[2016-12-27 02:10:15] narnarfromnarnia : to me
[2016-12-27 02:10:19] narnarfromnarnia : thats what im sticking too
[2016-12-27 02:10:27] Speran49 : it requires a patience you don't develop till after that age
[2016-12-27 02:10:36] ett1 : Speran49: lol. yes they should make it a law
[2016-12-27 02:10:43] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-27 02:10:46] ett1 : hahahaha @Speran49
[2016-12-27 02:11:10] ett1 : at 25 something clicks
[2016-12-27 02:11:18] ett1 : dont bother kids
[2016-12-27 02:12:30] ett1 : i'm 25 and a half. should i wait until i reach my maturity
[2016-12-27 02:12:58] Speran49 : nah this is how you know if you're doing it right
[2016-12-27 02:12:59] Speran49 : when you trade
[2016-12-27 02:13:02] Speran49 : for each trade
[2016-12-27 02:13:08] Speran49 : if you don't give a shit if you lose it
[2016-12-27 02:13:15] Speran49 : you know you're trading the correct amt
[2016-12-27 02:13:20] Speran49 : and you will succeed
[2016-12-27 02:13:36] Speran49 : otherwise you're screwed and you'll cause yourself a lot of stress
[2016-12-27 02:14:09] ett1 : yes i suppose. got to feel a bit of pain for the rewards to be worth it though
[2016-12-27 02:14:09] Speran49 : think about trading like a jo
[2016-12-27 02:14:17] Speran49 : no think of it like a job
[2016-12-27 02:14:28] Speran49 : if you normal job after tax is $20 an hour
[2016-12-27 02:14:33] Speran49 : or even $15 an hour AFTER TAX
[2016-12-27 02:14:49] ett1 : i think you mean you need exprience. i dont htink age has anything to do with patience or tarding skill
[2016-12-27 02:14:57] Speran49 : then if you spend 5 hrs on a trade and the profit is $100 you still did better than most ppl in america
[2016-12-27 02:15:08] Speran49 : no age helps too
[2016-12-27 02:15:11] mjones : xmr mooning
[2016-12-27 02:15:21] Speran49 : it teaches experience and gives patience
[2016-12-27 02:16:03] Speran49 : the key for me is simply remembering that as long as i make more than at my day job. I am a success
[2016-12-27 02:16:04] ett1 : id have faith in an 18 year old trader if he had like 4 years experience
[2016-12-27 02:16:07] ett1 : depends
[2016-12-27 02:17:00] ett1 : do you believe women make better traders than men?
[2016-12-27 02:17:21] Speran49 : yes
[2016-12-27 02:17:26] Speran49 : they aren't as greedy
[2016-12-27 02:17:30] ett1 : i think the gamble less
[2016-12-27 02:17:31] ett1 : yes
[2016-12-27 02:17:32] Speran49 : and they have greater patience
[2016-12-27 02:17:42] Speran49 : men are inherently impatient
[2016-12-27 02:17:48] Speran49 : i prefer female doctors too
[2016-12-27 02:17:51] Speran49 : most males are asshats
[2016-12-27 02:17:53] cookielito : greed is good gentlemen
[2016-12-27 02:18:01] ett1 : Speran49: my balls hurt
[2016-12-27 02:18:09] Speran49 : ha
[2016-12-27 02:18:12] ett1 : got any recommendations
[2016-12-27 02:18:22] Speran49 : tinder
[2016-12-27 02:18:27] Speran49 : good lighting
[2016-12-27 02:18:37] Speran49 : money
[2016-12-27 02:18:40] ett1 : i belive theyre less likely to blow up
[2016-12-27 02:19:03] Speran49 : hit the gym haha and be funny........
[2016-12-27 02:19:06] ett1 : but men can take capital and risk it to grow 10000x and become kings
[2016-12-27 02:19:15] cookielito : exactly
[2016-12-27 02:19:22] Speran49 : yes this is also true
[2016-12-27 02:19:28] ett1 : thats why they own the world
[2016-12-27 02:19:43] ett1 : never met a female investment allocator
[2016-12-27 02:19:49] Speran49 : risk is important for greatness
[2016-12-27 02:19:53] Speran49 : calculated risk
[2016-12-27 02:20:00] Speran49 : there is risk and then there is gambling
[2016-12-27 02:20:06] Speran49 : 100x on 50% of your portfolio is gambliing
[2016-12-27 02:20:11] Speran49 : 50x with 5% is calculated risk.
[2016-12-27 02:20:21] ett1 : ye i agree
[2016-12-27 02:20:31] ett1 : or go nuts if you know youve got income coming later
[2016-12-27 02:20:39] Speran49 : no
[2016-12-27 02:20:42] Speran49 : never go nuts
[2016-12-27 02:20:45] Speran49 : you'll lose it
[2016-12-27 02:20:54] Speran49 : value every penny like its your last
[2016-12-27 02:21:18] ett1 : im saying for someone who has high salary, they could play with 10x larger size
[2016-12-27 02:21:18] Angelika : Speran49: ?
[2016-12-27 02:21:21] ett1 : if they blow up
[2016-12-27 02:21:38] ett1 : they can just replace what would have been 10% of they size they really want to trade with
[2016-12-27 02:21:39] Speran49 : its all relative
[2016-12-27 02:21:39] cookielito : gentlemen close your shorts
[2016-12-27 02:21:45] cookielito : china woke the fuck up
[2016-12-27 02:22:05] cookielito : fucking
[2016-12-27 02:22:09] halloz : 900 CHEAP COIN
[2016-12-27 02:22:13] cookielito : for real
[2016-12-27 02:22:23] Angelika : not so fast I think
[2016-12-27 02:22:23] halloz : :D
[2016-12-27 02:22:32] ett1 : but doesnt have $200k in savings
[2016-12-27 02:22:45] ett1 : could probably risk $10k with 25x leverage
[2016-12-27 02:23:20] halloz : Despite the double top - we have remained here for a really long time. Shows strength imo
[2016-12-27 02:23:21] ett1 : is ok with someone who has $10k month income
[2016-12-27 02:23:47] Speran49 : well see what happens
[2016-12-27 02:23:52] Speran49 : either way it could go
[2016-12-27 02:23:52] Angelika : ett1: I have $10k income
[2016-12-27 02:23:56] Angelika : I only trade 1.5x
[2016-12-27 02:24:00] Speran49 : the chinese rally was on declining volume
[2016-12-27 02:24:15] ett1 : Angelika: you probably wont blow up then
[2016-12-27 02:24:21] ett1 : like someone with $100k income
[2016-12-27 02:24:25] Speran49 : there is a reason he/she prolly makes 10k a month ahha
[2016-12-27 02:24:25] ett1 : im guessing you can risk 1-5 btc
[2016-12-27 02:24:28] Speran49 : intelligence
[2016-12-27 02:24:46] ett1 : if you can grow it quit the job
[2016-12-27 02:25:27] ett1 : or a country that doesnt have high costs
[2016-12-27 02:25:42] ett1 : everything relative anyway
[2016-12-27 02:30:37] halloz : yum 900$ coin
[2016-12-27 02:31:35] happy : i will buy at 895
[2016-12-27 02:32:32] Angelika : happy: 895 was earlier
[2016-12-27 02:32:47] halloz : happy: Not sure we'll bounce there if we go down. When this moves...it will go HAM
[2016-12-27 02:33:00] halloz : in whatever direction it goes
[2016-12-27 02:37:06] happy : looks like this will go crazy tomorrow
[2016-12-27 02:37:24] Angelika : or not
[2016-12-27 02:44:13] cookielito : cover your shorts gentlemen/women
[2016-12-27 02:46:46] halloz : weeee
[2016-12-27 02:50:02] happy : bullish or bearish.. To win or to lose
[2016-12-27 03:07:01] wellerchang : price sideways until 2017
[2016-12-27 03:12:08] halloz : How freaking tight can this get
[2016-12-27 03:13:41] wellerchang : YOU AINT SEEN NOTHIN YET!
[2016-12-27 03:17:28] narnarfromnarnia : waterfall coming
[2016-12-27 03:19:53] happy : narnarfromnarnia: you bearish again?
[2016-12-27 03:20:10] narnarfromnarnia : ya 100x to 891
[2016-12-27 03:20:45] happy : gl
[2016-12-27 03:21:08] wellerchang : buttcoin so constipated must dump
[2016-12-27 03:21:30] wellerchang : someone get exlax
[2016-12-27 03:27:55] MikeHunt : hopefully the massive i dump did is prophetic
[2016-12-27 03:28:09] MikeHunt : i did*
[2016-12-27 03:32:39] mariomarco : bitmex holding on air
[2016-12-27 03:32:39] mariomarco : lol
[2016-12-27 03:37:39] MikeHunt : it looks so much like that june bubbl
[2016-12-27 03:42:21] ett1 : bitcoin is dead
[2016-12-27 03:42:56] halloz : zzzz
[2016-12-27 03:43:07] mariomarco : ett1: i sold all of mine
[2016-12-27 03:43:11] mariomarco : pack your bags guys
[2016-12-27 03:43:17] mariomarco : time to invest in to IRA or 401k
[2016-12-27 03:43:19] mariomarco : smart longtemr
[2016-12-27 03:43:25] halloz : lol
[2016-12-27 03:43:26] mariomarco : not this internet pixel money
[2016-12-27 03:43:27] halloz : ok
[2016-12-27 03:43:32] mariomarco : or government bonds
[2016-12-27 03:43:33] mariomarco : even safer
[2016-12-27 03:43:56] ett1 : mariomarco: can't go wrong with those
[2016-12-27 03:44:01] ett1 : wise move
[2016-12-27 03:44:31] ett1 : has anyone tried premium bonds. its like a lottery, but not for the plebs
[2016-12-27 03:44:32] Angelika : government bonds are the unsafest place you can be right now
[2016-12-27 03:45:51] ett1 : we could have another crisis like 2008. stocks could tumble
[2016-12-27 03:46:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: buy 1 @ 0.011783
[2016-12-27 03:47:01] ett1 : you are all fools of randomness, waiting to be hit by the next black swan
[2016-12-27 03:47:10] ett1 : you dont even know what you dont know yet
[2016-12-27 03:47:52] Naloxone : Win is puming
[2016-12-27 03:49:13] MikeHunt : premium bonbs imo arent worth it
[2016-12-27 03:49:24] MikeHunt : i know some1 who had maximum amount u can get
[2016-12-27 03:49:34] MikeHunt : over his life time it worked out as 15% profit
[2016-12-27 03:49:51] ett1 : yes im only messing
[2016-12-27 03:49:58] halloz : ett1: lol - isp crapped out for a second...was thinking bitmex was down lol
[2016-12-27 03:50:17] ett1 : i dont care about antrhing that could make less than 50%
[2016-12-27 03:50:26] halloz : Now that would suck o-o
[2016-12-27 03:50:52] ett1 : i have an iphone tehthered to my macbook
[2016-12-27 03:51:04] ett1 : sometimes the hotspot gets disconnected
[2016-12-27 03:51:17] ett1 : i need to get the phone and toggle it on/off
[2016-12-27 03:51:30] ett1 : doesnt always work first time
[2016-12-27 03:51:57] ett1 : am i the only one? i thinjk the problem is from the phones end
[2016-12-27 03:52:14] ett1 : happens to me a few times a day
[2016-12-27 03:53:07] halloz : Never had that problem - then again, i rarely tether though
[2016-12-27 03:53:32] ett1 : im pretty sure it didnt happen before
[2016-12-27 03:53:54] ett1 : ive been doing it for a long time, im in a different country
[2016-12-27 03:54:02] ett1 : could be the telcom providor
[2016-12-27 03:54:15] Naloxone : XMR moon
[2016-12-27 03:54:53] ett1 : but id expect it to reconnect by itself, it annoying i see my wifi turn off
[2016-12-27 03:55:06] ett1 : then i need to get up and get the phone (usually plugged into the wall)
[2016-12-27 03:55:23] ett1 : when i come back to check wifi working iagain, sometimes it isnt so i have to repeat
[2016-12-27 03:55:33] ett1 : can take a minute or 2 sometimes
[2016-12-27 03:57:41] halloz : Not sure - may be the telecom company. What's the cell quality 3g 4g?
[2016-12-27 03:58:47] halloz : ett1: could try this http://osxdaily.com/2013/10/13/personal-hotspot-drop-connection-fix/
[2016-12-27 03:59:12] MikeHunt : ett1: does your telecom isp allow tethering?
[2016-12-27 03:59:25] ett1 : 3g yes it does
[2016-12-27 03:59:32] laisee : ett1: I use hotspot from my iphone 2 macbook also. seems like u need to restart to get the spot recognised, and restart every so often also.
[2016-12-27 03:59:35] MikeHunt : are you tether via cable?
[2016-12-27 03:59:58] ett1 : laisee: yes
[2016-12-27 04:00:06] MikeHunt : i found wifi hotspot to be more reliable
[2016-12-27 04:00:10] ett1 : thats my experience. do you get the same
[2016-12-27 04:00:25] ett1 : personal hotspot needs to be restarted manually
[2016-12-27 04:00:42] MikeHunt : so both cable and wifi hotspot are bad?
[2016-12-27 04:00:44] laisee : yep, same experience. hotspot is a bit flaky and can't reach too far.
[2016-12-27 04:00:52] ett1 : the phone hitspot always drops, no the mac wifi
[2016-12-27 04:01:00] MikeHunt : which iphones are you using? 7?
[2016-12-27 04:01:01] halloz : China goin for it?
[2016-12-27 04:01:17] halloz : I don't believe whats real or not
[2016-12-27 04:01:26] ett1 : nah the 4s
[2016-12-27 04:01:29] MikeHunt : could be the little pump b4 the dump
[2016-12-27 04:01:32] MikeHunt : 4s is quite old
[2016-12-27 04:01:37] MikeHunt : might wanna consider new fone
[2016-12-27 04:01:45] MikeHunt : personally i recommnd android phones
[2016-12-27 04:01:55] ett1 : ye, i had an samsung but lost it
[2016-12-27 04:02:06] MikeHunt : u can gt cheap chinese androids nowadays
[2016-12-27 04:02:11] MikeHunt : samsung charge premium
[2016-12-27 04:02:19] ett1 : didnt see any reason to buy new iphone, it does the same job. just samller screen to me
[2016-12-27 04:02:34] MikeHunt : well on my galaxy phone the hotspot is very reliable
[2016-12-27 04:02:42] halloz : MikeHunt: I like my S7 Edge though. Hasn't exploded yet so thats good
[2016-12-27 04:03:03] MikeHunt : halloz: my s6 hasnt yet either lol
[2016-12-27 04:03:08] halloz : haha
[2016-12-27 04:03:11] ett1 : ye ill get a new android soon. i would buy a generic. it was a gift but it got stolen on holiday. cant trust the ladies
[2016-12-27 04:03:23] MikeHunt : lol
[2016-12-27 04:03:24] halloz : could wait for the s8
[2016-12-27 04:03:30] MikeHunt : s8 will be expensive
[2016-12-27 04:03:36] MikeHunt : and might blow up
[2016-12-27 04:03:39] halloz : lol
[2016-12-27 04:03:54] ett1 : lucky i didnt have 2fa
[2016-12-27 04:04:08] halloz : Design a explosion proof case and sell it as a gag product. People would eat that shit up
[2016-12-27 04:04:37] halloz : Create a kickstarter
[2016-12-27 04:04:50] ett1 : or better yet. an ico
[2016-12-27 04:04:59] halloz : then put the money into xmr lol
[2016-12-27 04:05:11] ett1 : for a company that would invest in such innovative next generation disruptive technologies
[2016-12-27 04:05:17] MikeHunt : Huawei P9 Lite is $250, that's prob do
[2016-12-27 04:05:48] MikeHunt : just b4 u buy phone, google about its hotspot feature and see how others find it
[2016-12-27 04:05:49] ett1 : such opportunity
[2016-12-27 04:06:07] ett1 : i swear it was fine for ages
[2016-12-27 04:06:14] MikeHunt : i just stick unlimited data sim in 4g router, then payg sim in phone for calls
[2016-12-27 04:06:23] ett1 : it might be the telcom, but they have a momoply here
[2016-12-27 04:06:41] MikeHunt : ett1: where u from if u dont mind me asking?
[2016-12-27 04:06:44] ett1 : theres one with cheap unlimited 3g
[2016-12-27 04:06:59] ett1 : UK but in thailand
[2016-12-27 04:07:17] ett1 : it was fine in the UK i think, but cant remember
[2016-12-27 04:07:41] ett1 : i dont remember getting up to fix the issue 5 times a day
[2016-12-27 04:08:18] ett1 : no wait shit
[2016-12-27 04:08:24] ett1 : i was using my home wifi
[2016-12-27 04:08:51] narnarfromnarnia : dtac or ais
[2016-12-27 04:08:54] narnarfromnarnia : for thai
[2016-12-27 04:09:00] laisee : depends on the local 3G or 4G setup. some places, like Manila, have such crap network config that even the mobile phone loses signal from time to time.
[2016-12-27 04:09:04] ett1 : expensive unlimited
[2016-12-27 04:09:07] ett1 : i need unlimited data
[2016-12-27 04:09:17] narnarfromnarnia : true for your home
[2016-12-27 04:09:30] narnarfromnarnia : they have fiber there now in some areas too
[2016-12-27 04:09:47] ett1 : 89baht unlimited 1 week 3g
[2016-12-27 04:10:02] ett1 : i cant be bothered setting up wifi
[2016-12-27 04:10:13] ett1 : i should get an emergency sim tho perhaps
[2016-12-27 04:10:24] MikeHunt : thought about getting a 4g router?
[2016-12-27 04:10:28] MikeHunt : usually more stabl
[2016-12-27 04:10:55] ett1 : i think a different phone might be best solution to try
[2016-12-27 04:11:08] MikeHunt : i dunno what thailand like but close to china
[2016-12-27 04:11:15] MikeHunt : might be easy to get cheap china phone
[2016-12-27 04:11:19] ett1 : strangely the samsung i got didnt work here
[2016-12-27 04:11:22] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: that's cheap as f
[2016-12-27 04:11:26] ett1 : only for calls, but not internet
[2016-12-27 04:11:45] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: everythings liek 25% what i was paying in UK
[2016-12-27 04:11:49] narnarfromnarnia : i lost huge when power went out while living there on a trade in bfx
[2016-12-27 04:12:03] narnarfromnarnia : well ya life is cheap there
[2016-12-27 04:12:08] ett1 : cheap weed
[2016-12-27 04:12:17] narnarfromnarnia : if you need a mx5 bike lemme know
[2016-12-27 04:12:20] narnarfromnarnia : ill take btc
[2016-12-27 04:12:23] ett1 : :) that was my biggest expense about same as rent
[2016-12-27 04:12:23] narnarfromnarnia : its in krabi :)
[2016-12-27 04:12:25] ett1 : lol
[2016-12-27 04:12:40] ett1 : ive spend hundred of btc
[2016-12-27 04:12:46] ett1 : sucks
[2016-12-27 04:13:24] MikeHunt : for power u can get USB power pack
[2016-12-27 04:13:29] MikeHunt : can power my phone for days
[2016-12-27 04:13:38] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: kl you live here? i havnt got driving license yet
[2016-12-27 04:14:01] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: i lived there 4yrs you don't need it for motorbike
[2016-12-27 04:14:02] ett1 : ill might buy a motorbike if my trade goes well :)
[2016-12-27 04:14:13] narnarfromnarnia : well i have a black mx5 there
[2016-12-27 04:14:17] narnarfromnarnia : only crashed once
[2016-12-27 04:14:18] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-27 04:14:24] ett1 : oh ok. ive only got UK car license
[2016-12-27 04:14:38] narnarfromnarnia : you don't need any license unless a real car which is not what you want there anyways
[2016-12-27 04:14:44] narnarfromnarnia : buy a tuk tuk live in the country side
[2016-12-27 04:14:54] narnarfromnarnia : bkk is blown
[2016-12-27 04:15:02] ett1 : sounds like a romantic idea. but i love the city
[2016-12-27 04:15:03] narnarfromnarnia : chiang mai is okay but boring too
[2016-12-27 04:15:12] ett1 : whats do u mean blown
[2016-12-27 04:15:14] narnarfromnarnia : i lived in muay thai camp there
[2016-12-27 04:15:31] ett1 : never been, but i think id like to check it out
[2016-12-27 04:15:39] ett1 : pattaya wasnt my scene.
[2016-12-27 04:16:00] narnarfromnarnia : ya not into lady boy city myself
[2016-12-27 04:16:13] ett1 : bkk and london are about same to me. just much cheaper here
[2016-12-27 04:16:32] narnarfromnarnia : it all depends can be pricey there too
[2016-12-27 04:16:53] narnarfromnarnia : but ya i am fluent in thai and lived in boxing camp in jungle for 4yrs
[2016-12-27 04:17:15] ett1 : that sounds pretty cool
[2016-12-27 04:17:21] narnarfromnarnia : learn thai man it will help easy to learn too
[2016-12-27 04:17:31] narnarfromnarnia : i knew guys living there for 10+ years and never tried to learn to speak
[2016-12-27 04:17:35] narnarfromnarnia : lazy mofo's
[2016-12-27 04:17:43] ett1 : yes thats me
[2016-12-27 04:17:59] ett1 : waste of my time tbh, im not a natural when it comes to learnign languages
[2016-12-27 04:18:20] ett1 : tried teaching me french & german at school. i suck
[2016-12-27 04:18:21] narnarfromnarnia : it's a really basic language though
[2016-12-27 04:18:28] narnarfromnarnia : those are way more difficult
[2016-12-27 04:18:48] ett1 : i dunno.its not a priority
[2016-12-27 04:19:11] narnarfromnarnia : soi nana or cowboy is though lol
[2016-12-27 04:19:21] narnarfromnarnia : sukhumvit is cool
[2016-12-27 04:19:23] ett1 : haha
[2016-12-27 04:19:41] ett1 : right now bitmex is the priority
[2016-12-27 04:19:47] narnarfromnarnia : i'd be sitting at a pub trading right now if there for sure
[2016-12-27 04:20:10] narnarfromnarnia : just be careful man, lot's of sketchy people you wouldn't even realize it
[2016-12-27 04:20:13] narnarfromnarnia : but they're there
[2016-12-27 04:20:15] ett1 : i should def go out more
[2016-12-27 04:20:26] ett1 : the foreigners or the thais?
[2016-12-27 04:20:33] ett1 : cambodia was full of scammers
[2016-12-27 04:20:33] narnarfromnarnia : foreigners
[2016-12-27 04:20:43] ett1 : but ive ive found thai people very honest
[2016-12-27 04:20:45] MikeHunt : thais pretty dangerous iirc
[2016-12-27 04:20:54] narnarfromnarnia : one dude who frequented our pub ended up being another name and fugitive
[2016-12-27 04:21:03] narnarfromnarnia : fake art seller and kidnapping charges wanted
[2016-12-27 04:21:04] MikeHunt : hear about ppl getting killed all the time, especially foreigners
[2016-12-27 04:21:11] narnarfromnarnia : ya balconies
[2016-12-27 04:21:16] narnarfromnarnia : oh he fell off the balcony
[2016-12-27 04:21:23] narnarfromnarnia : no
[2016-12-27 04:21:26] MikeHunt : yeh stay away from balconies
[2016-12-27 04:21:33] narnarfromnarnia : police are useless
[2016-12-27 04:21:33] MikeHunt : like in china u stay away from lifts
[2016-12-27 04:21:42] narnarfromnarnia : and you can bribe your way out of anything
[2016-12-27 04:22:06] ett1 : ye i hear stories. i dont really go meeting people in bars
[2016-12-27 04:22:17] MikeHunt : why u there in first place?
[2016-12-27 04:22:28] ett1 : oh man
[2016-12-27 04:22:51] narnarfromnarnia : if in bkk just use the tram
[2016-12-27 04:23:06] ett1 : was sharing flat in UK, but mate went abroad & ended up in hospital for like a month no contact
[2016-12-27 04:23:08] narnarfromnarnia : i was there fighting muay thai
[2016-12-27 04:23:15] narnarfromnarnia : best place to go for that in world
[2016-12-27 04:23:16] ett1 : let the rent come to its end of contract
[2016-12-27 04:23:23] narnarfromnarnia : and super healthy food etc..
[2016-12-27 04:23:33] narnarfromnarnia : camps full of friends around the world so its fun
[2016-12-27 04:23:38] ett1 : was impossible to get a new place without guarantor or puttin up huge deposit myself
[2016-12-27 04:23:47] narnarfromnarnia : most fun place ive lived
[2016-12-27 04:24:03] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: landlords can be horrible
[2016-12-27 04:24:06] ett1 : so went to thailand where much cheaper cost of living and could just get a month rental. no proofs of emploemnt and shit
[2016-12-27 04:24:09] narnarfromnarnia : also check your electric bill
[2016-12-27 04:24:14] narnarfromnarnia : make sure it's not commissioned too
[2016-12-27 04:24:17] narnarfromnarnia : can be 10x
[2016-12-27 04:24:21] narnarfromnarnia : per kw
[2016-12-27 04:24:41] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: ya that's the place to be for easy good quality of life
[2016-12-27 04:24:46] narnarfromnarnia : but you have to work on internet
[2016-12-27 04:24:48] ett1 : i pay like $20/mo i dont care
[2016-12-27 04:25:01] ett1 : if they charge me 10x
[2016-12-27 04:25:04] narnarfromnarnia : ya that's good my electric at a villa came to 8k baht for 2 months
[2016-12-27 04:25:13] MikeHunt : whats living cost per month?
[2016-12-27 04:25:14] narnarfromnarnia : villa was 20k per month
[2016-12-27 04:25:23] narnarfromnarnia : $600 i had a 2 room pool villa
[2016-12-27 04:25:29] ett1 : id say if your on a tight budget
[2016-12-27 04:25:32] narnarfromnarnia : 250 i had a brand new little condo
[2016-12-27 04:25:39] narnarfromnarnia : cheap
[2016-12-27 04:25:44] ett1 : you can survive ok $1000k/mo
[2016-12-27 04:25:54] ett1 : $2k/mo is pretty decent here
[2016-12-27 04:25:56] MikeHunt : little bit less than UK then
[2016-12-27 04:25:59] narnarfromnarnia : ya 1000 is good life there
[2016-12-27 04:26:09] ett1 : MikeHunt: like 25% but i was in london
[2016-12-27 04:26:22] MikeHunt : london is like double price of everything
[2016-12-27 04:26:54] ett1 : MikeHunt: not really. rent, but most other things are the same
[2016-12-27 04:27:06] ett1 : shops have an RRP
[2016-12-27 04:27:09] MikeHunt : all i know is coke bottle is £2 in london
[2016-12-27 04:27:12] MikeHunt : £1 where i live
[2016-12-27 04:28:02] ett1 : nah its $1. maybe at the newsagent stall inside the train station its more
[2016-12-27 04:28:33] ett1 : rent & hotels were the killer
[2016-12-27 04:28:40] MikeHunt : maybe stuffs changed then
[2016-12-27 04:28:42] ett1 : and taxis
[2016-12-27 04:28:54] MikeHunt : which part of london thou?
[2016-12-27 04:28:58] MikeHunt : inner or outer?
[2016-12-27 04:29:02] ett1 : central
[2016-12-27 04:29:12] MrRGnome : As a Canadian considering spending some significant time abroad working online, is the consensus that Thailand is the place to be?
[2016-12-27 04:29:25] MikeHunt : rent there is like £1200 p/m there for small apt.
[2016-12-27 04:29:40] ett1 : id say so, but i came here without any planning. it seemed the smartest to me
[2016-12-27 04:29:43] MikeHunt : up north or south its like £600 for apt.
[2016-12-27 04:30:08] narnarfromnarnia : MrRGnome: def go if you want to see asia
[2016-12-27 04:30:19] narnarfromnarnia : i lived in vietnam, cambo, laos
[2016-12-27 04:30:22] ett1 : pretty relaxed laws (i like my weed, girls). nice food. every day sunny. cheap
[2016-12-27 04:30:23] narnarfromnarnia : laos is sweet too
[2016-12-27 04:30:39] MikeHunt : where is the safest place around there?
[2016-12-27 04:30:40] MrRGnome : Thanks for the recommendations. It's a tough decision when you don't really know anything
[2016-12-27 04:30:41] ett1 : right hand drive feels like home
[2016-12-27 04:30:51] narnarfromnarnia : MrRGnome: just pack a backpack and go
[2016-12-27 04:30:52] ett1 : i didnt know anything
[2016-12-27 04:30:58] narnarfromnarnia : bring minimal
[2016-12-27 04:31:07] narnarfromnarnia : use mosquito spray lol
[2016-12-27 04:31:09] MrRGnome : Well, I need my internet to work, so I need to plana t least that
[2016-12-27 04:31:16] ett1 : i made the decision without knowing what i was getting into. all worked out well
[2016-12-27 04:31:19] narnarfromnarnia : wifi everywhere
[2016-12-27 04:31:21] ett1 : no problems in thaimand
[2016-12-27 04:31:28] narnarfromnarnia : 4G too
[2016-12-27 04:31:31] MrRGnome : I just spent 3 months in Jamaica. Terrible weed.
[2016-12-27 04:31:36] laisee : Vietnam has good wifi and millions of coffee shops
[2016-12-27 04:31:36] laisee : Vietnam is good for onoine workers also, cheap and good food
[2016-12-27 04:31:39] ett1 : MrRGnome: torrents are slow
[2016-12-27 04:32:03] ett1 : MrRGnome: its brown here. looks like shit. but consistently great. every day im blessed
[2016-12-27 04:32:23] MrRGnome : So long as it's affordable, comfortable and safe
[2016-12-27 04:32:27] MrRGnome : And has internet
[2016-12-27 04:32:30] ett1 : laisee: i see motorbikes everywhere when i looked into it
[2016-12-27 04:32:31] MrRGnome : And good weed
[2016-12-27 04:32:33] ett1 : i hate that shit
[2016-12-27 04:32:37] narnarfromnarnia : MrRGnome: never hear great things there
[2016-12-27 04:32:42] narnarfromnarnia : prague is awesome too
[2016-12-27 04:32:45] ett1 : cars should be on the roads, motorbikes are chaos
[2016-12-27 04:32:46] narnarfromnarnia : great food and cheap
[2016-12-27 04:32:53] ett1 : and looks low class
[2016-12-27 04:32:54] narnarfromnarnia : prague chicks
[2016-12-27 04:32:56] narnarfromnarnia : czech girls man
[2016-12-27 04:32:56] MrRGnome : I've always wanted to check out prague.
[2016-12-27 04:33:05] narnarfromnarnia : also medellin is great
[2016-12-27 04:33:07] laisee : ett1: yah, bikes in the trillions
[2016-12-27 04:33:08] ett1 : MrRGnome: prague was nice.
[2016-12-27 04:33:10] narnarfromnarnia : colombia
[2016-12-27 04:33:13] narnarfromnarnia : great coke lol
[2016-12-27 04:33:14] narnarfromnarnia : jk
[2016-12-27 04:33:22] MrRGnome : How far will english only get me in prague, thailand etc?
[2016-12-27 04:33:26] MikeHunt : ett1: use a vpn for torrents
[2016-12-27 04:33:28] narnarfromnarnia : everywhere both places
[2016-12-27 04:33:40] ett1 : MrRGnome: thailand no problem
[2016-12-27 04:33:47] narnarfromnarnia : but the whole point of travel is learning new things
[2016-12-27 04:33:50] laisee : MrRGnome: english + $$$ works everywhere
[2016-12-27 04:33:57] ett1 : prague it hard to remember, i was with parents
[2016-12-27 04:34:00] MrRGnome : I agree @narnarfromnarnia
[2016-12-27 04:34:19] narnarfromnarnia : czech food and stay near the castle
[2016-12-27 04:34:22] narnarfromnarnia : in old town
[2016-12-27 04:34:23] ett1 : MrRGnome: almost everyone seems to know english in bangkok
[2016-12-27 04:34:52] MrRGnome : I think I've decided in this conversation I'm going to do this
[2016-12-27 04:35:00] ett1 : just do it
[2016-12-27 04:35:01] laisee : but learn the local lingo & avoid staying in tourist/expat ghetto too long.
[2016-12-27 04:35:09] MrRGnome : I'll look into how long I can get a visa in the places you've suggested and stay at the one where I can get it the longest
[2016-12-27 04:35:10] narnarfromnarnia : ya i travelled non stop for years man
[2016-12-27 04:35:31] MrRGnome : Like I said I just got back from 3 months in Jamaica, and I've spent 3 months in Mexico before
[2016-12-27 04:35:38] laisee : suggest trying a few places for a month or so each, look around and see what works
[2016-12-27 04:35:38] MrRGnome : I'd like to see asia and europe though
[2016-12-27 04:35:38] ett1 : MrRGnome: if ur canadian, you can get 2 months on arrival
[2016-12-27 04:35:39] ett1 : no visa
[2016-12-27 04:35:44] narnarfromnarnia : can be really affordable, just clear up financial resp back home
[2016-12-27 04:35:56] ett1 : then you can go to cambodia for a 3 month visa and come back in 4 days
[2016-12-27 04:36:00] ett1 : so like 5 months
[2016-12-27 04:36:01] MrRGnome : financial resp back home?
[2016-12-27 04:36:01] narnarfromnarnia : MrRGnome: both rough places
[2016-12-27 04:36:05] narnarfromnarnia : i cannot stand mexico
[2016-12-27 04:36:07] narnarfromnarnia : eh
[2016-12-27 04:36:08] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: no
[2016-12-27 04:36:12] narnarfromnarnia : colombia is awesome
[2016-12-27 04:36:15] MikeHunt : how easy is it to live off bitcoin there? like turning it into cash?
[2016-12-27 04:36:20] MrRGnome : I liked both. I think I'd like Columbia
[2016-12-27 04:36:23] ett1 : just a bank account & company / address to maintain
[2016-12-27 04:36:27] narnarfromnarnia : Colombia*
[2016-12-27 04:36:39] ett1 : MikeHunt: i havnt tried
[2016-12-27 04:36:40] narnarfromnarnia : ya it's good man way better than mexico x100
[2016-12-27 04:36:46] ett1 : but theres localbitcoin and an exchange
[2016-12-27 04:36:57] MikeHunt : do you do manual work there or?
[2016-12-27 04:37:01] ett1 : no
[2016-12-27 04:37:03] MrRGnome : Some really good advice, thanks.
[2016-12-27 04:37:03] narnarfromnarnia : just use a place that can withdraw to your account
[2016-12-27 04:37:12] narnarfromnarnia : also don't use your normal atm cards in outside machines
[2016-12-27 04:37:14] ett1 : live off savings, investments
[2016-12-27 04:37:16] narnarfromnarnia : use a legit mc or amex
[2016-12-27 04:37:21] narnarfromnarnia : for purchases
[2016-12-27 04:37:26] narnarfromnarnia : discover no foreign fees
[2016-12-27 04:37:37] narnarfromnarnia : but i had russia take 3k out of personal checking once from bad atm