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[2016-12-27 00:28:34] traxor : I'm constantly tweaking -- like I said -- some bots work fine with minimal tweaking -- dynamic markets are BRUTAL towards my bots and seemingly trade AGAINST me -- probably my fault as a lousy programmer, regardless of my backtesting.
[2016-12-27 00:28:53] ett1 : traxor: seems like trading the bots
[2016-12-27 00:28:59] ett1 : same as trading the market
[2016-12-27 00:29:14] ett1 : if they only work 1 month thats like a position
[2016-12-27 00:29:24] ett1 : just my view of things
[2016-12-27 00:29:27] Speran49 : markets have something called market state
[2016-12-27 00:29:33] Rado : traxor: what is a dynamic market bot?
[2016-12-27 00:29:33] Speran49 : bots can work for a time in one
[2016-12-27 00:29:36] Speran49 : and then stop in the next
[2016-12-27 00:30:04] ett1 : Speran49: so you are trying to predict the state of the market, instead of price pretty much
[2016-12-27 00:30:18] MikeHunt : tradewave doesnt seem to have RSI
[2016-12-27 00:31:24] ett1 : if this bot doesnt work in sideways markets, and this bot doesnt work in volatile upwards market
[2016-12-27 00:31:27] CaptainDean : @ett1 thanks for the aps ! they got bitmex pretty cool
[2016-12-27 00:31:48] ett1 : you have to decide what you think the market is going to do, to decide which bot to turn on/off
[2016-12-27 00:31:48] traxor : You HAVE to know the state of the market in order to determine which bots to run -- that is MY experience. Sideways markets are GREAT for bots -- always chewing away at profits -- major swings screw them up and trade agains t you at times. Arb bots work great unless the order books are thin.
[2016-12-27 00:31:54] ett1 : why not just tarde direction
[2016-12-27 00:32:51] ett1 : seems like people test and find something thats worked during the last 2 months on 5 mins candles
[2016-12-27 00:33:02] ett1 : then get surprised when it stops working after 1 week
[2016-12-27 00:34:46] traxor : ett1 You're exactly correct -- it is constant management and not good sleep at night during certain markets -- I run bots -- and I'm still 50/50...
[2016-12-27 00:35:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `WINZ16`: sell 60 @ 0.001459
[2016-12-27 00:35:51] halloz : This is like the 30th liquidation on WIN today - who buys dat shit?
[2016-12-27 00:37:31] mjones : xmr new high
[2016-12-27 00:41:16] traxor : If xmd wasn't one of the 3 alts that I liked -- I'd probably short at this price
[2016-12-27 00:41:42] traxor : Actually -- maybe I will.
[2016-12-27 00:49:08] mjones : xmr highly manipulative
[2016-12-27 00:58:34] halloz : China is opening soon - this finna get interesting
[2016-12-27 00:59:08] Angelika : halloz: you realize there is no closing
[2016-12-27 00:59:40] halloz : Angelika: The banks are closed atm
[2016-12-27 01:00:18] halloz : I don't see us going any farther without new money coming in
[2016-12-27 01:00:26] mjones : should have longed more during that dip
[2016-12-27 01:01:12] ett1 : whats positive about Monero?
[2016-12-27 01:01:25] ett1 : i thought it was just anonymous transactions
[2016-12-27 01:01:27] rms : REP also way up...
[2016-12-27 01:01:41] halloz : ett1: Another pumpcoin
[2016-12-27 01:01:45] halloz : thats about it
[2016-12-27 01:01:46] ett1 : like darkcoin / dash or soemthing
[2016-12-27 01:01:54] ett1 : thats what i though
[2016-12-27 01:07:13] mjones : xmr is nice because it's older with most of its coins mined. and has only been mega pumped once
[2016-12-27 01:07:49] mjones : and there is still no solid #1 anon coin and the one that pumps the most will be the chosen one
[2016-12-27 01:19:42] l3f : >waiting for the zec pump
[2016-12-27 01:23:40] Nerve : so...where the fuuck is that dump ?
[2016-12-27 01:24:39] Nerve : what the China woke up for ?
[2016-12-27 01:25:21] micmix : Nerve: apparently we are waiting for new money tomorrow when western banks open. everyone will transfer their savings to bitcoin
[2016-12-27 01:25:31] mariomarco : lol
[2016-12-27 01:25:41] mariomarco : "everyone" "savings" "transfer"
[2016-12-27 01:25:56] Nerve : LOL
[2016-12-27 01:26:02] micmix : he-he
[2016-12-27 01:26:19] mariomarco : "IRA" "401k"
[2016-12-27 01:26:21] mariomarco : :P
[2016-12-27 01:26:28] wellerchang : AHHHHHHHHHHH
[2016-12-27 01:26:42] mariomarco : i got a full bag of """", i can keep doing this until i die
[2016-12-27 01:26:43] mariomarco : :P
[2016-12-27 01:26:56] wellerchang : waiting for green dildo
[2016-12-27 01:27:03] wellerchang : here it comes
[2016-12-27 01:27:05] Nerve : if everyone will do that tomorrow morning, then 2morrow evening we will have 1BTC = 100.000usd
[2016-12-27 01:28:05] micmix : I'm ready to sell for 10000 today if anyone interested
[2016-12-27 01:28:13] memes : shorting btc, dare I do it xD
[2016-12-27 01:28:40] wellerchang : ITS A TRAP
[2016-12-27 01:28:43] mjones : short the bottom. not even once
[2016-12-27 01:29:57] mjones : maybe we legit running out of above $900 buyers
[2016-12-27 01:30:36] Speran49 : it's heading down dingbats
[2016-12-27 01:30:41] Speran49 : i've been short for hours
[2016-12-27 01:30:43] Tr : buy the dip
[2016-12-27 01:30:51] Speran49 : :|
[2016-12-27 01:30:53] Tr : i am wiring my fiat now
[2016-12-27 01:30:56] Tr : to buy the dips!
[2016-12-27 01:31:03] wellerchang : IN B4 GREEN DILDO?!
[2016-12-27 01:31:21] mariomarco : wellerchang: inb4 820
[2016-12-27 01:31:22] mjones : short the epic bull trap
[2016-12-27 01:31:24] mjones : that was a nice bounce
[2016-12-27 01:31:36] mjones : xmr breaking up
[2016-12-27 01:31:48] Tr : anyone BUYING THE DIP?
[2016-12-27 01:31:53] Tr : lets buy the dip togethere
[2016-12-27 01:31:59] wellerchang : LETS DO IT
[2016-12-27 01:32:14] deep : I ll be buying the dip
[2016-12-27 01:32:40] memes : man I meant to get on monero but its too high now :(
[2016-12-27 01:32:46] Speran49 : 893 is your first buy level
[2016-12-27 01:34:40] narnarfromnarnia : dummp
[2016-12-27 01:34:52] wellerchang : PUMP
[2016-12-27 01:34:52] Naloxone : okcoin, just let it dump
[2016-12-27 01:34:53] Tr : nah its already going up
[2016-12-27 01:34:58] Tr : Crooked China wont let price fall
[2016-12-27 01:35:54] wellerchang : LOCK THEM UP
[2016-12-27 01:36:00] mjones : china buys it back up and throws up 600 BTC buy wall at 6450 cny
[2016-12-27 01:36:06] Speran49 : just because price doesnt fall in 5 seconds doesnt mean it wont fall
[2016-12-27 01:36:14] memes : nah guys I opened a short so its going to go up
[2016-12-27 01:36:21] Speran49 : everything right now points to continued down
[2016-12-27 01:36:26] Speran49 : patience.
[2016-12-27 01:36:30] mariomarco : Speran49: +1
[2016-12-27 01:37:01] Tr : it cant go down
[2016-12-27 01:37:14] Tr : i've been told its going to be sideways and up to 1000 in next few days
[2016-12-27 01:37:17] Tr : its been confirmed
[2016-12-27 01:37:42] wellerchang : BY satashus himself!
[2016-12-27 01:37:44] Angelika : Tr: lol
[2016-12-27 01:38:36] Tr : see already up
[2016-12-27 01:39:05] Tr : i expect another mini ladder of green candles on Huobi that looks weird as f
[2016-12-27 01:40:41] wellerchang : hes right
[2016-12-27 01:40:49] Nerve : yes
[2016-12-27 01:40:51] wellerchang : the game is rigged
[2016-12-27 01:41:13] Nerve : green candles showed up on huobi
[2016-12-27 01:42:17] Angelika : everything is rigged to take your money
[2016-12-27 01:43:01] mjones : okcoin stacked another 600 btc at 6450 cny. in before it gets sold into again
[2016-12-27 01:43:32] MikeHunt : yuan is loosing value
[2016-12-27 01:43:40] MikeHunt : might be looking at a pump
[2016-12-27 01:44:06] mjones : meh. probably already priced in
[2016-12-27 01:44:14] mjones : maybe too priced in and we need a correction dump
[2016-12-27 01:44:21] Speran49 : as long as RSI 15 min points donw and doesnt break my trendline
[2016-12-27 01:44:22] Speran49 : im staying short
[2016-12-27 01:44:38] Speran49 : short since 910
[2016-12-27 01:44:39] Speran49 : :)
[2016-12-27 01:44:53] wellerchang : we need satan to deliver us to the depths of hell
[2016-12-27 01:45:14] wellerchang : here comes the dildo
[2016-12-27 01:45:23] wellerchang : the fuck you bears dildo
[2016-12-27 01:45:29] mjones : china here we go. new ath incoming
[2016-12-27 01:47:00] wellerchang : time to make 4650 support again!
[2016-12-27 01:47:05] Angelika : you guys sound like the pump team
[2016-12-27 01:47:07] wellerchang : i mean 6500
[2016-12-27 01:47:45] wellerchang : PUMP
[2016-12-27 01:48:51] Naloxone : The sheer stupidity of this pump is unprecedented . Ridiculously low volume and blatant manipulation by the chinese. Everything looks wrong and very fishy, I think it will crash very hard eventually
[2016-12-27 01:48:57] mjones : china making bitcoin great again since 2015
[2016-12-27 01:48:58] Nerve : so @Tr was right
[2016-12-27 01:49:00] wellerchang : 10,000 yuan is coming tomorrow
[2016-12-27 01:49:27] Tr : ye crooked China wont let the fake price fall
[2016-12-27 01:49:37] mjones : everyone putting their christmas money into bitcoin this week
[2016-12-27 01:50:06] MikeHunt : wellerchang: says who?
[2016-12-27 01:50:09] Nerve : mjones: agreee
[2016-12-27 01:50:12] Tr : ye i am sure price bouncing because Joe average wired his xmas money and bough them dips
[2016-12-27 01:50:42] mjones : wall street fat cats got their bonus.
[2016-12-27 01:50:43] wellerchang : the plunge protection team said so
[2016-12-27 01:50:53] Speran49 : i see no pump
[2016-12-27 01:50:57] Speran49 : what are you guys taking about?
[2016-12-27 01:51:03] mjones : you must not be looking at a china chart
[2016-12-27 01:51:06] Speran49 : huobi has barely moved
[2016-12-27 01:51:08] narnarfromnarnia : it'll dump a bit then go up
[2016-12-27 01:51:19] narnarfromnarnia : or alot again
[2016-12-27 01:51:24] mjones : 6436 cny to 6462 cny on 0kcoin
[2016-12-27 01:51:29] mjones : and climbing
[2016-12-27 01:51:37] Speran49 : thats nothing
[2016-12-27 01:51:38] Speran49 : a blip
[2016-12-27 01:51:41] mjones : psh
[2016-12-27 01:51:45] Speran49 : you're watching on 1min or some shit
[2016-12-27 01:51:47] mjones : it's the start of something great
[2016-12-27 01:52:00] mjones : you gotta look at the 1 minute to see the start of something great
[2016-12-27 01:52:03] mjones : otherwise you'll miss it
[2016-12-27 01:52:10] Speran49 : if you watch below 15 min then you're an impatient fool
[2016-12-27 01:52:14] narnarfromnarnia : accumulation here but it will need to go down
[2016-12-27 01:52:21] narnarfromnarnia : 1m 100x
[2016-12-27 01:52:21] Speran49 : and you will miss the bigger picture everytime
[2016-12-27 01:52:23] narnarfromnarnia : bra
[2016-12-27 01:52:34] mjones : gotta look at the 1 minute to be able to enter your longs and shorts and the top and bottom
[2016-12-27 01:52:36] MikeHunt : i trade by 1hour
[2016-12-27 01:52:41] Speran49 : been there done that
[2016-12-27 01:52:45] Nerve : narnarfromnarnia: big balls is back in town ?
[2016-12-27 01:52:56] Speran49 : 15 min is great for swings. Trade 50x and use more btc
[2016-12-27 01:53:01] Speran49 : no reason to use 100x margin
[2016-12-27 01:53:01] narnarfromnarnia : Nerve: just a small amount let's see if i can get 880
[2016-12-27 01:53:21] Nerve : narnarfromnarnia: not today
[2016-12-27 01:53:27] Speran49 : i been doing this for fun for 3 days instead of playing games. This is my game. I'm up 300%
[2016-12-27 01:53:40] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.tradingview.com/x/xjGxpfs9/
[2016-12-27 01:53:49] Speran49 : but ive been trading in the normal markets for 6 years
[2016-12-27 01:53:54] cookielito : I was up 3000%
[2016-12-27 01:53:57] narnarfromnarnia : Speran49: it'll all be wiped out soon
[2016-12-27 01:53:58] cookielito : then got wiped
[2016-12-27 01:54:05] Speran49 : lol
[2016-12-27 01:54:06] narnarfromnarnia : cookielito: my point right there
[2016-12-27 01:54:11] Speran49 : it won't
[2016-12-27 01:54:17] Speran49 : trade with only 5% of portfolio per trade
[2016-12-27 01:54:19] cookielito : it happens
[2016-12-27 01:54:21] narnarfromnarnia : cookielito: what were you trading small big leverage trades?
[2016-12-27 01:54:22] Speran49 : keep tight stop loss
[2016-12-27 01:54:35] Speran49 : no one trade wipes you out and you minimize losses
[2016-12-27 01:54:38] cookielito : i started with 150 bucks
[2016-12-27 01:54:42] narnarfromnarnia : nice
[2016-12-27 01:54:42] cookielito : ended up with 4.6 btc
[2016-12-27 01:54:43] Speran49 : it's math guys
[2016-12-27 01:54:52] MikeHunt : majority of pump is coming from china which is collapsing
[2016-12-27 01:55:02] narnarfromnarnia : cookielito: im at couple hundred just got wiped 2.6
[2016-12-27 01:55:02] cookielito : then took out a 100k position
[2016-12-27 01:55:11] cookielito : lobg
[2016-12-27 01:55:17] Speran49 : idiiot
[2016-12-27 01:55:20] cookielito : and a flash crash killed me
[2016-12-27 01:55:24] Speran49 : you never put that much in 1 trade
[2016-12-27 01:55:31] MikeHunt : yup
[2016-12-27 01:55:41] Speran49 : mikehunt is the only one here who seems to konw what he is doing
[2016-12-27 01:55:49] MikeHunt : but makes the least money
[2016-12-27 01:55:50] MikeHunt : lol
[2016-12-27 01:55:54] cookielito : leverage here is too insane
[2016-12-27 01:55:57] Speran49 : probably lose the least too
[2016-12-27 01:55:57] Tr : the only true way to trade is to go all-in on 100x
[2016-12-27 01:56:07] Speran49 : that's called gambling Tr
[2016-12-27 01:56:08] narnarfromnarnia : Tr: when we're flat like this
[2016-12-27 01:56:09] narnarfromnarnia : ya
[2016-12-27 01:56:10] Speran49 : they have casinos for that
[2016-12-27 01:56:18] MikeHunt : so far im up $1.5k since 2013 bubble but i reckon i could do better
[2016-12-27 01:56:20] narnarfromnarnia : it's either black jack or this
[2016-12-27 01:56:38] narnarfromnarnia : it's fun making 1k or losing 1k a day
[2016-12-27 01:56:47] Speran49 : its fun?
[2016-12-27 01:56:49] Speran49 : 1k is a lot
[2016-12-27 01:56:49] Speran49 : lol
[2016-12-27 01:56:55] Speran49 : id rather make 200 a day and not lose it
[2016-12-27 01:56:59] narnarfromnarnia : ya i lost 2.6btc 2 days ago
[2016-12-27 01:57:01] narnarfromnarnia : so fun
[2016-12-27 01:57:09] Speran49 : shoulda listen to sherry and I
[2016-12-27 01:57:13] narnarfromnarnia : but would have been like 6btc
[2016-12-27 01:57:14] Speran49 : you'd have kept it
[2016-12-27 01:57:25] Speran49 : just go short
[2016-12-27 01:57:25] narnarfromnarnia : $2 to my liq price
[2016-12-27 01:57:35] traxor : MikeHunt I made 8K on Christmas Day -- Pure luck of course... :D
[2016-12-27 01:57:36] cookielito : long or short speran?
[2016-12-27 01:57:43] Speran49 : short.
[2016-12-27 01:57:45] MikeHunt : generally buying the dips on RSI 1hour is pretty sure bet for $$$$
[2016-12-27 01:58:03] MikeHunt : traxor: i would have made $1k if i had caught the china pumps in time
[2016-12-27 01:58:04] Speran49 : RSi 1 hr is clear down
[2016-12-27 01:58:06] Naloxone : I am done with Bitcoin for today, will long some ETCWIN better
[2016-12-27 01:58:59] traxor : I was serious about being lucky -- lol. Also -- as far as your indicators go -- once the 4hr MACD turns green -- imo, that means GO!
[2016-12-27 01:59:01] MikeHunt : Speran49: i usually wait til its around or bellow 30
[2016-12-27 01:59:11] cookielito : stay short
[2016-12-27 01:59:15] cookielito : but cover soon
[2016-12-27 01:59:29] Speran49 : i have specialized RSI that helps me a lot
[2016-12-27 02:00:06] MikeHunt : i use bitcoinwisdom
[2016-12-27 02:00:18] Speran49 : anyway, imma go read a book and keep an eye in background. Sitting here is waste of time ;)
[2016-12-27 02:00:31] Speran49 : if i am wrong, next bus in 10 mins hehe
[2016-12-27 02:00:35] Speran49 : remember that and you will never lose
[2016-12-27 02:01:59] MikeHunt : lol
[2016-12-27 02:02:53] traxor : MikeHunt: RSI is a MINOR indicator in most circumstances -- obviously the RSI divergence is important; otherwise 3rd to 5th down on the list. I'll step out now, since I'm a newcomer... Best of luck trading to EVERYONE here for the rest of the year!
[2016-12-27 02:03:41] Speran49 : all i use is RSI div. + fibs and s/r
[2016-12-27 02:03:43] Speran49 : :)
[2016-12-27 02:03:48] Speran49 : kiss
[2016-12-27 02:04:00] Nerve : narnarfromnarnia: OUCH
[2016-12-27 02:04:05] cookielito : dmt predicts flawlessly
[2016-12-27 02:04:15] cookielito : kidding
[2016-12-27 02:04:28] ett1 : s/r breakouts, donchian channels. i look at trendline, flag/triangles
[2016-12-27 02:04:37] ett1 : thats my TA
[2016-12-27 02:04:55] sleger : i look at morons in the chat and do the opposite, thats my TA
[2016-12-27 02:05:09] Speran49 : sleger: +!
[2016-12-27 02:05:13] Speran49 : sleger: +1
[2016-12-27 02:05:25] happy : lol
[2016-12-27 02:07:01] ett1 : my spidey sense is tingling
[2016-12-27 02:07:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: sell 10000 @ 901.68
[2016-12-27 02:07:27] arbitrage001 : good morning
[2016-12-27 02:07:34] arbitrage001 : how is everyone doing
[2016-12-27 02:07:45] arbitrage001 : getting rich?
[2016-12-27 02:07:53] sleger : ^he is a good trollbox indicator
[2016-12-27 02:07:59] ett1 : nothing changing
[2016-12-27 02:08:01] narnarfromnarnia : hold on to yer shorts
[2016-12-27 02:08:04] Speran49 : ahahahha
[2016-12-27 02:08:07] Speran49 : good to know sleger
[2016-12-27 02:08:20] arbitrage001 : i dont understand
[2016-12-27 02:08:25] Speran49 : i've found narnar to be a good opposite one as well ;)
[2016-12-27 02:08:31] sleger : that's the point @arbitrage001
[2016-12-27 02:09:22] narnarfromnarnia : Speran49: lol i've done alright before just got wiped
[2016-12-27 02:09:47] Speran49 : yeah i know im kidding. I don't care what anyone does. I follow my plan and mine only.
[2016-12-27 02:09:48] narnarfromnarnia : i keep forgeting that i don't have to trade everyday and i lose it
[2016-12-27 02:10:01] ett1 : you need to preserve your chips to play
[2016-12-27 02:10:03] Speran49 : you must learn patience. How old are you?
[2016-12-27 02:10:12] Speran49 : i dont think anyone below 26 should be trading
[2016-12-27 02:10:12] narnarfromnarnia : 1hr looks down to 888
[2016-12-27 02:10:15] narnarfromnarnia : to me
[2016-12-27 02:10:19] narnarfromnarnia : thats what im sticking too
[2016-12-27 02:10:27] Speran49 : it requires a patience you don't develop till after that age
[2016-12-27 02:10:36] ett1 : Speran49: lol. yes they should make it a law
[2016-12-27 02:10:43] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-27 02:10:46] ett1 : hahahaha @Speran49
[2016-12-27 02:11:10] ett1 : at 25 something clicks
[2016-12-27 02:11:18] ett1 : dont bother kids
[2016-12-27 02:12:30] ett1 : i'm 25 and a half. should i wait until i reach my maturity
[2016-12-27 02:12:58] Speran49 : nah this is how you know if you're doing it right
[2016-12-27 02:12:59] Speran49 : when you trade
[2016-12-27 02:13:02] Speran49 : for each trade
[2016-12-27 02:13:08] Speran49 : if you don't give a shit if you lose it
[2016-12-27 02:13:15] Speran49 : you know you're trading the correct amt
[2016-12-27 02:13:20] Speran49 : and you will succeed
[2016-12-27 02:13:36] Speran49 : otherwise you're screwed and you'll cause yourself a lot of stress
[2016-12-27 02:14:09] ett1 : yes i suppose. got to feel a bit of pain for the rewards to be worth it though
[2016-12-27 02:14:09] Speran49 : think about trading like a jo
[2016-12-27 02:14:17] Speran49 : no think of it like a job
[2016-12-27 02:14:28] Speran49 : if you normal job after tax is $20 an hour
[2016-12-27 02:14:33] Speran49 : or even $15 an hour AFTER TAX
[2016-12-27 02:14:49] ett1 : i think you mean you need exprience. i dont htink age has anything to do with patience or tarding skill
[2016-12-27 02:14:57] Speran49 : then if you spend 5 hrs on a trade and the profit is $100 you still did better than most ppl in america
[2016-12-27 02:15:08] Speran49 : no age helps too
[2016-12-27 02:15:11] mjones : xmr mooning
[2016-12-27 02:15:21] Speran49 : it teaches experience and gives patience
[2016-12-27 02:16:03] Speran49 : the key for me is simply remembering that as long as i make more than at my day job. I am a success
[2016-12-27 02:16:04] ett1 : id have faith in an 18 year old trader if he had like 4 years experience
[2016-12-27 02:16:07] ett1 : depends
[2016-12-27 02:17:00] ett1 : do you believe women make better traders than men?
[2016-12-27 02:17:21] Speran49 : yes
[2016-12-27 02:17:26] Speran49 : they aren't as greedy
[2016-12-27 02:17:30] ett1 : i think the gamble less
[2016-12-27 02:17:31] ett1 : yes
[2016-12-27 02:17:32] Speran49 : and they have greater patience
[2016-12-27 02:17:42] Speran49 : men are inherently impatient
[2016-12-27 02:17:48] Speran49 : i prefer female doctors too
[2016-12-27 02:17:51] Speran49 : most males are asshats
[2016-12-27 02:17:53] cookielito : greed is good gentlemen
[2016-12-27 02:18:01] ett1 : Speran49: my balls hurt
[2016-12-27 02:18:09] Speran49 : ha
[2016-12-27 02:18:12] ett1 : got any recommendations
[2016-12-27 02:18:22] Speran49 : tinder
[2016-12-27 02:18:27] Speran49 : good lighting
[2016-12-27 02:18:37] Speran49 : money
[2016-12-27 02:18:40] ett1 : i belive theyre less likely to blow up
[2016-12-27 02:19:03] Speran49 : hit the gym haha and be funny........
[2016-12-27 02:19:06] ett1 : but men can take capital and risk it to grow 10000x and become kings
[2016-12-27 02:19:15] cookielito : exactly
[2016-12-27 02:19:22] Speran49 : yes this is also true
[2016-12-27 02:19:28] ett1 : thats why they own the world
[2016-12-27 02:19:43] ett1 : never met a female investment allocator
[2016-12-27 02:19:49] Speran49 : risk is important for greatness
[2016-12-27 02:19:53] Speran49 : calculated risk
[2016-12-27 02:20:00] Speran49 : there is risk and then there is gambling
[2016-12-27 02:20:06] Speran49 : 100x on 50% of your portfolio is gambliing
[2016-12-27 02:20:11] Speran49 : 50x with 5% is calculated risk.
[2016-12-27 02:20:21] ett1 : ye i agree
[2016-12-27 02:20:31] ett1 : or go nuts if you know youve got income coming later
[2016-12-27 02:20:39] Speran49 : no
[2016-12-27 02:20:42] Speran49 : never go nuts
[2016-12-27 02:20:45] Speran49 : you'll lose it
[2016-12-27 02:20:54] Speran49 : value every penny like its your last
[2016-12-27 02:21:18] ett1 : im saying for someone who has high salary, they could play with 10x larger size
[2016-12-27 02:21:18] Angelika : Speran49: ?
[2016-12-27 02:21:21] ett1 : if they blow up
[2016-12-27 02:21:38] ett1 : they can just replace what would have been 10% of they size they really want to trade with
[2016-12-27 02:21:39] Speran49 : its all relative
[2016-12-27 02:21:39] cookielito : gentlemen close your shorts
[2016-12-27 02:21:45] cookielito : china woke the fuck up
[2016-12-27 02:22:05] cookielito : fucking
[2016-12-27 02:22:09] halloz : 900 CHEAP COIN
[2016-12-27 02:22:13] cookielito : for real
[2016-12-27 02:22:23] Angelika : not so fast I think
[2016-12-27 02:22:23] halloz : :D
[2016-12-27 02:22:32] ett1 : but doesnt have $200k in savings
[2016-12-27 02:22:45] ett1 : could probably risk $10k with 25x leverage
[2016-12-27 02:23:20] halloz : Despite the double top - we have remained here for a really long time. Shows strength imo
[2016-12-27 02:23:21] ett1 : is ok with someone who has $10k month income
[2016-12-27 02:23:47] Speran49 : well see what happens
[2016-12-27 02:23:52] Speran49 : either way it could go
[2016-12-27 02:23:52] Angelika : ett1: I have $10k income
[2016-12-27 02:23:56] Angelika : I only trade 1.5x
[2016-12-27 02:24:00] Speran49 : the chinese rally was on declining volume
[2016-12-27 02:24:15] ett1 : Angelika: you probably wont blow up then
[2016-12-27 02:24:21] ett1 : like someone with $100k income
[2016-12-27 02:24:25] Speran49 : there is a reason he/she prolly makes 10k a month ahha
[2016-12-27 02:24:25] ett1 : im guessing you can risk 1-5 btc
[2016-12-27 02:24:28] Speran49 : intelligence
[2016-12-27 02:24:46] ett1 : if you can grow it quit the job
[2016-12-27 02:25:27] ett1 : or a country that doesnt have high costs
[2016-12-27 02:25:42] ett1 : everything relative anyway
[2016-12-27 02:30:37] halloz : yum 900$ coin
[2016-12-27 02:31:35] happy : i will buy at 895
[2016-12-27 02:32:32] Angelika : happy: 895 was earlier
[2016-12-27 02:32:47] halloz : happy: Not sure we'll bounce there if we go down. When this moves...it will go HAM
[2016-12-27 02:33:00] halloz : in whatever direction it goes
[2016-12-27 02:37:06] happy : looks like this will go crazy tomorrow
[2016-12-27 02:37:24] Angelika : or not
[2016-12-27 02:44:13] cookielito : cover your shorts gentlemen/women
[2016-12-27 02:46:46] halloz : weeee
[2016-12-27 02:50:02] happy : bullish or bearish.. To win or to lose
[2016-12-27 03:07:01] wellerchang : price sideways until 2017
[2016-12-27 03:12:08] halloz : How freaking tight can this get
[2016-12-27 03:13:41] wellerchang : YOU AINT SEEN NOTHIN YET!
[2016-12-27 03:17:28] narnarfromnarnia : waterfall coming
[2016-12-27 03:19:53] happy : narnarfromnarnia: you bearish again?
[2016-12-27 03:20:10] narnarfromnarnia : ya 100x to 891
[2016-12-27 03:20:45] happy : gl
[2016-12-27 03:21:08] wellerchang : buttcoin so constipated must dump
[2016-12-27 03:21:30] wellerchang : someone get exlax
[2016-12-27 03:27:55] MikeHunt : hopefully the massive i dump did is prophetic
[2016-12-27 03:28:09] MikeHunt : i did*
[2016-12-27 03:32:39] mariomarco : bitmex holding on air
[2016-12-27 03:32:39] mariomarco : lol
[2016-12-27 03:37:39] MikeHunt : it looks so much like that june bubbl
[2016-12-27 03:42:21] ett1 : bitcoin is dead
[2016-12-27 03:42:56] halloz : zzzz
[2016-12-27 03:43:07] mariomarco : ett1: i sold all of mine
[2016-12-27 03:43:11] mariomarco : pack your bags guys
[2016-12-27 03:43:17] mariomarco : time to invest in to IRA or 401k
[2016-12-27 03:43:19] mariomarco : smart longtemr
[2016-12-27 03:43:25] halloz : lol
[2016-12-27 03:43:26] mariomarco : not this internet pixel money
[2016-12-27 03:43:27] halloz : ok
[2016-12-27 03:43:32] mariomarco : or government bonds
[2016-12-27 03:43:33] mariomarco : even safer
[2016-12-27 03:43:56] ett1 : mariomarco: can't go wrong with those
[2016-12-27 03:44:01] ett1 : wise move
[2016-12-27 03:44:31] ett1 : has anyone tried premium bonds. its like a lottery, but not for the plebs
[2016-12-27 03:44:32] Angelika : government bonds are the unsafest place you can be right now
[2016-12-27 03:45:51] ett1 : we could have another crisis like 2008. stocks could tumble
[2016-12-27 03:46:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: buy 1 @ 0.011783
[2016-12-27 03:47:01] ett1 : you are all fools of randomness, waiting to be hit by the next black swan
[2016-12-27 03:47:10] ett1 : you dont even know what you dont know yet
[2016-12-27 03:47:52] Naloxone : Win is puming
[2016-12-27 03:49:13] MikeHunt : premium bonbs imo arent worth it
[2016-12-27 03:49:24] MikeHunt : i know some1 who had maximum amount u can get
[2016-12-27 03:49:34] MikeHunt : over his life time it worked out as 15% profit
[2016-12-27 03:49:51] ett1 : yes im only messing
[2016-12-27 03:49:58] halloz : ett1: lol - isp crapped out for a second...was thinking bitmex was down lol
[2016-12-27 03:50:17] ett1 : i dont care about antrhing that could make less than 50%
[2016-12-27 03:50:26] halloz : Now that would suck o-o
[2016-12-27 03:50:52] ett1 : i have an iphone tehthered to my macbook
[2016-12-27 03:51:04] ett1 : sometimes the hotspot gets disconnected
[2016-12-27 03:51:17] ett1 : i need to get the phone and toggle it on/off
[2016-12-27 03:51:30] ett1 : doesnt always work first time
[2016-12-27 03:51:57] ett1 : am i the only one? i thinjk the problem is from the phones end
[2016-12-27 03:52:14] ett1 : happens to me a few times a day
[2016-12-27 03:53:07] halloz : Never had that problem - then again, i rarely tether though
[2016-12-27 03:53:32] ett1 : im pretty sure it didnt happen before
[2016-12-27 03:53:54] ett1 : ive been doing it for a long time, im in a different country
[2016-12-27 03:54:02] ett1 : could be the telcom providor
[2016-12-27 03:54:15] Naloxone : XMR moon
[2016-12-27 03:54:53] ett1 : but id expect it to reconnect by itself, it annoying i see my wifi turn off
[2016-12-27 03:55:06] ett1 : then i need to get up and get the phone (usually plugged into the wall)
[2016-12-27 03:55:23] ett1 : when i come back to check wifi working iagain, sometimes it isnt so i have to repeat
[2016-12-27 03:55:33] ett1 : can take a minute or 2 sometimes
[2016-12-27 03:57:41] halloz : Not sure - may be the telecom company. What's the cell quality 3g 4g?
[2016-12-27 03:58:47] halloz : ett1: could try this http://osxdaily.com/2013/10/13/personal-hotspot-drop-connection-fix/
[2016-12-27 03:59:12] MikeHunt : ett1: does your telecom isp allow tethering?
[2016-12-27 03:59:25] ett1 : 3g yes it does
[2016-12-27 03:59:32] laisee : ett1: I use hotspot from my iphone 2 macbook also. seems like u need to restart to get the spot recognised, and restart every so often also.
[2016-12-27 03:59:35] MikeHunt : are you tether via cable?
[2016-12-27 03:59:58] ett1 : laisee: yes
[2016-12-27 04:00:06] MikeHunt : i found wifi hotspot to be more reliable
[2016-12-27 04:00:10] ett1 : thats my experience. do you get the same
[2016-12-27 04:00:25] ett1 : personal hotspot needs to be restarted manually
[2016-12-27 04:00:42] MikeHunt : so both cable and wifi hotspot are bad?
[2016-12-27 04:00:44] laisee : yep, same experience. hotspot is a bit flaky and can't reach too far.
[2016-12-27 04:00:52] ett1 : the phone hitspot always drops, no the mac wifi
[2016-12-27 04:01:00] MikeHunt : which iphones are you using? 7?
[2016-12-27 04:01:01] halloz : China goin for it?
[2016-12-27 04:01:17] halloz : I don't believe whats real or not
[2016-12-27 04:01:26] ett1 : nah the 4s
[2016-12-27 04:01:29] MikeHunt : could be the little pump b4 the dump
[2016-12-27 04:01:32] MikeHunt : 4s is quite old
[2016-12-27 04:01:37] MikeHunt : might wanna consider new fone
[2016-12-27 04:01:45] MikeHunt : personally i recommnd android phones
[2016-12-27 04:01:55] ett1 : ye, i had an samsung but lost it
[2016-12-27 04:02:06] MikeHunt : u can gt cheap chinese androids nowadays
[2016-12-27 04:02:11] MikeHunt : samsung charge premium
[2016-12-27 04:02:19] ett1 : didnt see any reason to buy new iphone, it does the same job. just samller screen to me
[2016-12-27 04:02:34] MikeHunt : well on my galaxy phone the hotspot is very reliable
[2016-12-27 04:02:42] halloz : MikeHunt: I like my S7 Edge though. Hasn't exploded yet so thats good
[2016-12-27 04:03:03] MikeHunt : halloz: my s6 hasnt yet either lol
[2016-12-27 04:03:08] halloz : haha
[2016-12-27 04:03:11] ett1 : ye ill get a new android soon. i would buy a generic. it was a gift but it got stolen on holiday. cant trust the ladies
[2016-12-27 04:03:23] MikeHunt : lol
[2016-12-27 04:03:24] halloz : could wait for the s8
[2016-12-27 04:03:30] MikeHunt : s8 will be expensive
[2016-12-27 04:03:36] MikeHunt : and might blow up
[2016-12-27 04:03:39] halloz : lol
[2016-12-27 04:03:54] ett1 : lucky i didnt have 2fa
[2016-12-27 04:04:08] halloz : Design a explosion proof case and sell it as a gag product. People would eat that shit up
[2016-12-27 04:04:37] halloz : Create a kickstarter
[2016-12-27 04:04:50] ett1 : or better yet. an ico
[2016-12-27 04:04:59] halloz : then put the money into xmr lol
[2016-12-27 04:05:11] ett1 : for a company that would invest in such innovative next generation disruptive technologies
[2016-12-27 04:05:17] MikeHunt : Huawei P9 Lite is $250, that's prob do
[2016-12-27 04:05:48] MikeHunt : just b4 u buy phone, google about its hotspot feature and see how others find it
[2016-12-27 04:05:49] ett1 : such opportunity
[2016-12-27 04:06:07] ett1 : i swear it was fine for ages
[2016-12-27 04:06:14] MikeHunt : i just stick unlimited data sim in 4g router, then payg sim in phone for calls
[2016-12-27 04:06:23] ett1 : it might be the telcom, but they have a momoply here
[2016-12-27 04:06:41] MikeHunt : ett1: where u from if u dont mind me asking?
[2016-12-27 04:06:44] ett1 : theres one with cheap unlimited 3g
[2016-12-27 04:06:59] ett1 : UK but in thailand
[2016-12-27 04:07:17] ett1 : it was fine in the UK i think, but cant remember
[2016-12-27 04:07:41] ett1 : i dont remember getting up to fix the issue 5 times a day
[2016-12-27 04:08:18] ett1 : no wait shit
[2016-12-27 04:08:24] ett1 : i was using my home wifi
[2016-12-27 04:08:51] narnarfromnarnia : dtac or ais
[2016-12-27 04:08:54] narnarfromnarnia : for thai
[2016-12-27 04:09:00] laisee : depends on the local 3G or 4G setup. some places, like Manila, have such crap network config that even the mobile phone loses signal from time to time.
[2016-12-27 04:09:04] ett1 : expensive unlimited
[2016-12-27 04:09:07] ett1 : i need unlimited data
[2016-12-27 04:09:17] narnarfromnarnia : true for your home
[2016-12-27 04:09:30] narnarfromnarnia : they have fiber there now in some areas too
[2016-12-27 04:09:47] ett1 : 89baht unlimited 1 week 3g
[2016-12-27 04:10:02] ett1 : i cant be bothered setting up wifi
[2016-12-27 04:10:13] ett1 : i should get an emergency sim tho perhaps
[2016-12-27 04:10:24] MikeHunt : thought about getting a 4g router?
[2016-12-27 04:10:28] MikeHunt : usually more stabl
[2016-12-27 04:10:55] ett1 : i think a different phone might be best solution to try
[2016-12-27 04:11:08] MikeHunt : i dunno what thailand like but close to china
[2016-12-27 04:11:15] MikeHunt : might be easy to get cheap china phone
[2016-12-27 04:11:19] ett1 : strangely the samsung i got didnt work here
[2016-12-27 04:11:22] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: that's cheap as f
[2016-12-27 04:11:26] ett1 : only for calls, but not internet
[2016-12-27 04:11:45] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: everythings liek 25% what i was paying in UK
[2016-12-27 04:11:49] narnarfromnarnia : i lost huge when power went out while living there on a trade in bfx
[2016-12-27 04:12:03] narnarfromnarnia : well ya life is cheap there
[2016-12-27 04:12:08] ett1 : cheap weed
[2016-12-27 04:12:17] narnarfromnarnia : if you need a mx5 bike lemme know
[2016-12-27 04:12:20] narnarfromnarnia : ill take btc
[2016-12-27 04:12:23] ett1 : :) that was my biggest expense about same as rent
[2016-12-27 04:12:23] narnarfromnarnia : its in krabi :)
[2016-12-27 04:12:25] ett1 : lol
[2016-12-27 04:12:40] ett1 : ive spend hundred of btc
[2016-12-27 04:12:46] ett1 : sucks
[2016-12-27 04:13:24] MikeHunt : for power u can get USB power pack
[2016-12-27 04:13:29] MikeHunt : can power my phone for days