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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2016-12-26 22:47:22] Tr : i wonder what happens to the price when huobi will turn off their buying bot
[2016-12-26 22:47:36] Tr : its the most blatant manipulation ever
[2016-12-26 22:48:51] CaptainDean : wellerchang: i wouldn't bet on 6500 right now
[2016-12-26 22:49:28] mariomarco : Tr: why would they turn it off
[2016-12-26 22:50:17] justinlooking : lost of disjointedness right now: http://imgur.com/oozdH69
[2016-12-26 22:51:13] MikeHunt : justinlooking: wheres that data from?
[2016-12-26 22:52:37] rapidtrades : IT'S FAKE
[2016-12-26 22:52:39] rapidtrades : HE FAKED IT
[2016-12-26 22:52:42] rapidtrades : IT'S FAKE NEWS
[2016-12-26 22:53:20] justinlooking : MikeHunt: a tool i made
[2016-12-26 22:53:38] BitFan : what's fake?
[2016-12-26 22:54:05] rapidtrades : justinlooking: I'm calling Mike Zuckerberg
[2016-12-26 22:54:34] rapidtrades : sleger prolly has his number
[2016-12-26 22:54:43] rapidtrades : all those rich c*nts know each other
[2016-12-26 22:55:13] Tr : Bitstamp tried to sell
[2016-12-26 22:55:15] wellerchang : look here come 6500
[2016-12-26 22:55:23] Tr : tough luck with china bots taking care of that
[2016-12-26 22:55:36] wellerchang : any sell must be met with equal or greater buy
[2016-12-26 22:55:53] Tr : or you can just fake buy coins from yourself
[2016-12-26 22:57:49] justinlooking : timelapse of same thing from august: https://gfycat.com/PepperyAcclaimedHart
[2016-12-26 22:59:37] wellerchang : thats very cool!
[2016-12-26 22:59:45] wellerchang : you should put it online somewhere
[2016-12-26 23:04:30] justinlooking : thanks - hoping someone will replicate it ;)
[2016-12-26 23:07:44] justinlooking : it scrapes tradeblock's public api for the data, and uses plotlyjs to render, which pegs my cpu even at 2fps. needs a real js/devops guru to move it out of concept to something deployable
[2016-12-26 23:07:58] justinlooking : rapid is that ur stringy bot on bid in xbtusd???
[2016-12-26 23:12:53] wellerchang : here comes 6500!
[2016-12-26 23:14:21] narnarfromnarnia : 100x short
[2016-12-26 23:14:23] narnarfromnarnia : let's drop
[2016-12-26 23:14:43] narnarfromnarnia : trip top coming up
[2016-12-26 23:15:23] wellerchang : INSANITY
[2016-12-26 23:15:44] narnarfromnarnia : what's with the flickering
[2016-12-26 23:15:48] narnarfromnarnia : some bots acting cray
[2016-12-26 23:16:36] Naloxone : Looks like the major western exchanges stopped buying this crap from China
[2016-12-26 23:18:14] MikeHunt : didnt someone say they were gonna kill themselves if it got to 6500?
[2016-12-26 23:18:29] wellerchang : ME
[2016-12-26 23:18:33] wellerchang : CYA
[2016-12-26 23:18:44] MikeHunt : live stream?
[2016-12-26 23:20:21] wellerchang : this is what pure insanity looks like
[2016-12-26 23:20:38] Tr : its not insanity
[2016-12-26 23:20:42] MikeHunt : usd/cny might explain it
[2016-12-26 23:20:45] Tr : they do w/e they want with the price
[2016-12-26 23:20:46] Naloxone : Bitfinex started pumping too
[2016-12-26 23:22:36] Nerve : tchu tchu tchu
[2016-12-26 23:24:07] amirmass : time for the moonshot
[2016-12-26 23:24:20] MikeHunt : its meant to be crashing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEvYzpobteg
[2016-12-26 23:25:47] Nerve : LOL
[2016-12-26 23:33:09] narnarfromnarnia : that funding rate is high no?
[2016-12-26 23:33:27] narnarfromnarnia : means people will want to exit that soon i wonder
[2016-12-26 23:33:31] narnarfromnarnia : wait for it to drop
[2016-12-26 23:33:41] narnarfromnarnia : bag holders paying big interest
[2016-12-26 23:34:44] CaptainDean : 4 hours 25 mins
[2016-12-26 23:35:03] MikeHunt : i think correction to around 820 is likely
[2016-12-26 23:35:21] MikeHunt : then continuation towards ATH
[2016-12-26 23:35:46] MikeHunt : china still has a lot of capital left to outflow
[2016-12-26 23:36:44] MikeHunt : problem is it usually takes an exchange failure to crash it
[2016-12-26 23:37:38] justinlooking : in OrderbookL2, it apears f(price) = id. but what's f?
[2016-12-26 23:38:17] justinlooking : nvm
[2016-12-26 23:38:45] emperortrump : Can someone tell me how I set a simple stop loss trigger?
[2016-12-26 23:39:09] Nerve : narnarfromnarnia: dump incoming ?
[2016-12-26 23:39:17] Tr : there are 3 dots to the rifght of Market - Limit - Stop Market
[2016-12-26 23:39:26] Tr : you can choose Stop Limit from there
[2016-12-26 23:39:33] narnarfromnarnia : Nerve: i hope so
[2016-12-26 23:39:45] narnarfromnarnia : i give up on tA and anything i can think of after getting rekt now
[2016-12-26 23:39:52] emperortrump : Tr: Thanks.
[2016-12-26 23:39:59] narnarfromnarnia : that 870 didn't hold nad had like 40k for long
[2016-12-26 23:40:05] narnarfromnarnia : blown on $1 price
[2016-12-26 23:40:24] narnarfromnarnia : i really needed a bitcoin to hold that last minute but didn't know anyone to help me
[2016-12-26 23:40:59] Tr : you cant apply TA when price is manipulated by 1 shady exchange and all other exchanges are just watching what it does
[2016-12-26 23:41:08] Nerve : i think its going up @narnarfromnarnia
[2016-12-26 23:42:42] Nerve : lets see...
[2016-12-26 23:48:30] narnarfromnarnia : Nerve: i never really just pumps straight from dead vol though im just hoping for 890 880 but we'll see
[2016-12-26 23:48:41] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: are you shorting again?
[2016-12-26 23:48:51] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: ya
[2016-12-26 23:48:56] narnarfromnarnia : short short
[2016-12-26 23:48:59] l3f : lol
[2016-12-26 23:49:19] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: i got rekt man 863 went long at 870 with 50x
[2016-12-26 23:49:26] mjones : premium dropping on xbth17
[2016-12-26 23:49:37] narnarfromnarnia : mjones: increase
[2016-12-26 23:49:40] narnarfromnarnia : drop
[2016-12-26 23:49:45] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: it moves 5% a day
[2016-12-26 23:49:49] l3f : ya nee more margin dude
[2016-12-26 23:50:07] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: lost 2.6btc
[2016-12-26 23:50:13] narnarfromnarnia : depressing
[2016-12-26 23:50:16] narnarfromnarnia : but ev's
[2016-12-26 23:50:31] narnarfromnarnia : i wont it all on blackjack anyways at bovada
[2016-12-26 23:50:45] l3f : You degenerate gambler
[2016-12-26 23:50:48] MikeHunt : moving closer to the tipping point
[2016-12-26 23:50:50] narnarfromnarnia : anyone want to play there please use my email so i can try to win some hands to get back in here lol
[2016-12-26 23:51:14] MikeHunt : is there anyway to learn about the contract stuff?
[2016-12-26 23:51:19] MikeHunt : im just a vanilla buyer/seller
[2016-12-26 23:51:23] MikeHunt : sort of speculator
[2016-12-26 23:52:35] breadfan : what a confused fucking market today
[2016-12-26 23:55:18] micmix : MikeHunt: https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT
[2016-12-26 23:57:07] Angelika : micmix: hey man
[2016-12-26 23:57:20] Angelika : ops wrong account
[2016-12-26 23:57:29] Rado : hey micmix
[2016-12-26 23:58:06] Rado : do you change your spread dynamically based on market conditions?
[2016-12-26 23:58:11] Rado : or it's always the same
[2016-12-26 23:59:19] micmix : Angelika: now we know who makes all those fake girl accounts ;-)
[2016-12-26 23:59:29] Angelika : lol
[2016-12-26 23:59:39] Angelika : I just have this one
[2016-12-26 23:59:46] micmix : spread is dynamic
[2016-12-26 23:59:52] Angelika : and to my defence this is my wife's name
[2016-12-27 00:00:05] micmix : ok, I will let it pass this time
[2016-12-27 00:00:19] breadfan : fuck, i was getting turned on by having a girl trader in the trollbox :(
[2016-12-27 00:00:27] Angelika : micmix: how do you decide what the spread should be?
[2016-12-27 00:00:49] rapidtrades : WHERE WERE YOU WHEN BITCOIN HIT AN ALL-TIME HIGH?
[2016-12-27 00:01:41] micmix : Rado: it's based on available liquidity here, spreads on other exchanges and volatility
[2016-12-27 00:02:33] Rado : micmix: you can get the liquidity from teh API?
[2016-12-27 00:02:43] MikeHunt : micmix: ty
[2016-12-27 00:02:44] micmix : I'm not going to give you exact formula, I said too much already ;-)
[2016-12-27 00:02:51] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-27 00:02:55] Rado : agreed
[2016-12-27 00:03:03] Rado : just need guidance
[2016-12-27 00:03:06] Rado : thanks
[2016-12-27 00:04:33] rapidtrades : micmix: what's ur daily turnover on swap?
[2016-12-27 00:04:55] micmix : rapidtrades: not much, about 1k btc or so
[2016-12-27 00:05:14] micmix : depends on volatility
[2016-12-27 00:05:43] rapidtrades : that's almost 1 million dollars bro
[2016-12-27 00:06:12] micmix : yeah but it's less than 10% of total
[2016-12-27 00:06:20] rapidtrades : loool
[2016-12-27 00:06:21] halloz : Long from 902 - we'll see how this goes ;o
[2016-12-27 00:06:59] rapidtrades : so u make $250 per day from maker fees alone
[2016-12-27 00:07:08] rapidtrades : almost 100k per year
[2016-12-27 00:08:21] micmix : a bit less bc my bot is taker 10-20% of time
[2016-12-27 00:08:34] sleger : if you quote 0.01 spread for 10k contracts on swap you will make much more than that in making rebate, doesnt mean much on your actual pnl
[2016-12-27 00:08:48] sleger : @rapidtrades
[2016-12-27 00:09:13] micmix : yep, maker fees is less than 20% of profit usually
[2016-12-27 00:09:55] Angelika : for the 3 days I have ran the bot I traded 450k contarcts
[2016-12-27 00:10:28] Angelika : 2 of the days was changing code and settings though
[2016-12-27 00:10:28] mariomarco : Angelika: what bot
[2016-12-27 00:10:38] CaptainDean : this is the most interresting dicussion of the day :P
[2016-12-27 00:10:39] Angelika : to make it work
[2016-12-27 00:10:48] MikeHunt : so where does one get one of these bots?
[2016-12-27 00:11:21] Speran49 : you travel to the sugar cane forest
[2016-12-27 00:12:08] MikeHunt : i could probably code a bot, just curious if there was anything off the shelf
[2016-12-27 00:12:22] Speran49 : there probably is in dark corners of the net
[2016-12-27 00:12:26] ett1 : yes, click here to buy now
[2016-12-27 00:12:35] Angelika : MikeHunt: there is
[2016-12-27 00:12:40] mariomarco : MikeHunt: imo its not about coding its about the logic/angle behind it
[2016-12-27 00:12:45] Speran49 : why would someone sell one if it makes the money for them?
[2016-12-27 00:12:45] Angelika : BitMEX has a simple example bot
[2016-12-27 00:13:18] MikeHunt : im not asking for a money machine
[2016-12-27 00:13:18] rapidtrades : market making is dumb anyway, noone makes money doing it
[2016-12-27 00:13:23] MikeHunt : just something i can put my own formulas in
[2016-12-27 00:13:33] rapidtrades : we should just drop this pointless discussion
[2016-12-27 00:13:37] Speran49 : lol
[2016-12-27 00:13:38] ett1 : look at github
[2016-12-27 00:13:44] MikeHunt : yeh ill start there
[2016-12-27 00:13:45] micmix : rapidtrades: tbh my turnover is much less when volatility is low. it usually stays below 10% of total
[2016-12-27 00:13:49] ett1 : search "bitcoin trading bot' or something
[2016-12-27 00:13:59] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: I love you rapid
[2016-12-27 00:14:01] Speran49 : ive tried a million bots
[2016-12-27 00:14:08] Speran49 : i do much better just trading on my own w/o them
[2016-12-27 00:14:09] micmix : agree with rapidtrades, noone can make money market making
[2016-12-27 00:14:12] MikeHunt : i know how to trade bitcoin i just miss timings due to personal life/asleep
[2016-12-27 00:14:20] micmix : you all should stop trying
[2016-12-27 00:14:47] ett1 : MikeHunt: whats your timeframe
[2016-12-27 00:14:51] rapidtrades : +1
[2016-12-27 00:14:56] MikeHunt : ett1: 1 day
[2016-12-27 00:14:59] ett1 : dont bother with bots it yout trade daily
[2016-12-27 00:15:09] ett1 : like 1 week or 1 month positions
[2016-12-27 00:15:17] ett1 : you should learn about backtesting instead
[2016-12-27 00:15:23] mjones : where the fuck is btc going
[2016-12-27 00:15:25] ett1 : rather than arbitrage bots
[2016-12-27 00:15:39] Speran49 : trend is down mjone
[2016-12-27 00:15:44] Speran49 : but it could go up short term
[2016-12-27 00:15:46] Speran49 : you never know!
[2016-12-27 00:15:53] MikeHunt : ett1: ill have to set up some app to tell me wen there is a good dip
[2016-12-27 00:15:58] ett1 : use a platform thats already built for tsting trading systems, rather than building from scratch
[2016-12-27 00:16:32] MikeHunt : its just broken down throu a trendline it seems
[2016-12-27 00:16:42] ett1 : MikeHunt: like based on price change, or a momentum indicator?
[2016-12-27 00:16:57] MikeHunt : ett1: i think the kramer method is 5% drop
[2016-12-27 00:17:21] MikeHunt : but i know how i would program it
[2016-12-27 00:17:27] MikeHunt : i just need an SDK to play with
[2016-12-27 00:17:28] Speran49 : <shrugs>
[2016-12-27 00:17:29] ett1 : ok. but how do u know if buying after 5% drop or 15% drop is best
[2016-12-27 00:17:30] MikeHunt : since im very busy
[2016-12-27 00:17:36] Speran49 : im short waiting on further confirmation
[2016-12-27 00:17:56] ett1 : making a bot to send the alerts wont be helpful, if you dont know how the trades persom
[2016-12-27 00:17:59] ett1 : perform
[2016-12-27 00:18:03] MikeHunt : ett1: well i'd have to program technical analysis into it
[2016-12-27 00:18:18] ett1 : thats why i suggest tradestatation or similar
[2016-12-27 00:18:26] Speran49 : dont bother
[2016-12-27 00:18:27] ett1 : built for testing TA
[2016-12-27 00:18:28] MikeHunt : ill hvae a look
[2016-12-27 00:18:28] Speran49 : stick to manual trading
[2016-12-27 00:18:39] Speran49 : ive bakctested and tried for 1000 hrs
[2016-12-27 00:18:40] ett1 : rather than spread trading, or market making
[2016-12-27 00:18:57] ett1 : thats what you build your own bit for. youll need to be decent programmer
[2016-12-27 00:18:58] halloz : 901 CHEAP coin
[2016-12-27 00:18:58] Speran49 : but good luck if you decide to ;)
[2016-12-27 00:19:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 400 @ 958.05
[2016-12-27 00:19:59] MikeHunt : ett1: i think i can do the programming part
[2016-12-27 00:21:41] traxor : Hi mike -- my arb bots and sideways market bots work awesome -- the dynamic market bots are constantly fucking up -- fyi from someone who has tried.
[2016-12-27 00:22:04] ett1 : ok ye theres some online examples if you look
[2016-12-27 00:22:16] micmix : MikeHunt: if you want to backtest your strategies try tradewave.net
[2016-12-27 00:23:42] MikeHunt : traxor: what do you actually use to make them thou?
[2016-12-27 00:24:04] traxor : I use haas bots
[2016-12-27 00:24:47] ett1 : for anyone why runs bots
[2016-12-27 00:25:09] MikeHunt : micmix: ty ill check that out
[2016-12-27 00:25:11] ett1 : how long do the systems work for, before they 'stop working'
[2016-12-27 00:25:17] ett1 : youve ran some for years?
[2016-12-27 00:25:39] ett1 : or need to keep testing & tweaking every few months
[2016-12-27 00:25:41] ett1 : ?
[2016-12-27 00:25:46] MikeHunt : i'd rather make something that asks for confirmation before making a move
[2016-12-27 00:25:47] ett1 : as consditions change
[2016-12-27 00:26:16] ett1 : MikeHunt: then you probably want to be a manual trader
[2016-12-27 00:26:28] ett1 : using alerts only
[2016-12-27 00:26:33] MikeHunt : ett1: ive found the phone apps arent very reliable
[2016-12-27 00:26:45] ett1 : tradingview?
[2016-12-27 00:26:47] breadfan : set some alerts on tradingview
[2016-12-27 00:26:49] breadfan : yeah
[2016-12-27 00:26:53] ett1 : i use bitcointicker app which is good for me
[2016-12-27 00:27:52] MikeHunt : issue ive found with apps is they arent persistent
[2016-12-27 00:28:02] MikeHunt : i want something thats like my alarm clock
[2016-12-27 00:28:08] MikeHunt : wont shut up til i manually turn it off
[2016-12-27 00:28:16] MikeHunt : i sleep hevy
[2016-12-27 00:28:34] traxor : I'm constantly tweaking -- like I said -- some bots work fine with minimal tweaking -- dynamic markets are BRUTAL towards my bots and seemingly trade AGAINST me -- probably my fault as a lousy programmer, regardless of my backtesting.
[2016-12-27 00:28:53] ett1 : traxor: seems like trading the bots
[2016-12-27 00:28:59] ett1 : same as trading the market
[2016-12-27 00:29:14] ett1 : if they only work 1 month thats like a position
[2016-12-27 00:29:24] ett1 : just my view of things
[2016-12-27 00:29:27] Speran49 : markets have something called market state
[2016-12-27 00:29:33] Rado : traxor: what is a dynamic market bot?
[2016-12-27 00:29:33] Speran49 : bots can work for a time in one
[2016-12-27 00:29:36] Speran49 : and then stop in the next
[2016-12-27 00:30:04] ett1 : Speran49: so you are trying to predict the state of the market, instead of price pretty much
[2016-12-27 00:30:18] MikeHunt : tradewave doesnt seem to have RSI
[2016-12-27 00:31:24] ett1 : if this bot doesnt work in sideways markets, and this bot doesnt work in volatile upwards market
[2016-12-27 00:31:27] CaptainDean : @ett1 thanks for the aps ! they got bitmex pretty cool
[2016-12-27 00:31:48] ett1 : you have to decide what you think the market is going to do, to decide which bot to turn on/off
[2016-12-27 00:31:48] traxor : You HAVE to know the state of the market in order to determine which bots to run -- that is MY experience. Sideways markets are GREAT for bots -- always chewing away at profits -- major swings screw them up and trade agains t you at times. Arb bots work great unless the order books are thin.
[2016-12-27 00:31:54] ett1 : why not just tarde direction
[2016-12-27 00:32:51] ett1 : seems like people test and find something thats worked during the last 2 months on 5 mins candles
[2016-12-27 00:33:02] ett1 : then get surprised when it stops working after 1 week
[2016-12-27 00:34:46] traxor : ett1 You're exactly correct -- it is constant management and not good sleep at night during certain markets -- I run bots -- and I'm still 50/50...
[2016-12-27 00:35:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `WINZ16`: sell 60 @ 0.001459
[2016-12-27 00:35:51] halloz : This is like the 30th liquidation on WIN today - who buys dat shit?
[2016-12-27 00:37:31] mjones : xmr new high
[2016-12-27 00:41:16] traxor : If xmd wasn't one of the 3 alts that I liked -- I'd probably short at this price
[2016-12-27 00:41:42] traxor : Actually -- maybe I will.
[2016-12-27 00:49:08] mjones : xmr highly manipulative
[2016-12-27 00:58:34] halloz : China is opening soon - this finna get interesting
[2016-12-27 00:59:08] Angelika : halloz: you realize there is no closing
[2016-12-27 00:59:40] halloz : Angelika: The banks are closed atm
[2016-12-27 01:00:18] halloz : I don't see us going any farther without new money coming in
[2016-12-27 01:00:26] mjones : should have longed more during that dip
[2016-12-27 01:01:12] ett1 : whats positive about Monero?
[2016-12-27 01:01:25] ett1 : i thought it was just anonymous transactions
[2016-12-27 01:01:27] rms : REP also way up...
[2016-12-27 01:01:41] halloz : ett1: Another pumpcoin
[2016-12-27 01:01:45] halloz : thats about it
[2016-12-27 01:01:46] ett1 : like darkcoin / dash or soemthing
[2016-12-27 01:01:54] ett1 : thats what i though
[2016-12-27 01:07:13] mjones : xmr is nice because it's older with most of its coins mined. and has only been mega pumped once
[2016-12-27 01:07:49] mjones : and there is still no solid #1 anon coin and the one that pumps the most will be the chosen one
[2016-12-27 01:19:42] l3f : >waiting for the zec pump
[2016-12-27 01:23:40] Nerve : so...where the fuuck is that dump ?
[2016-12-27 01:24:39] Nerve : what the China woke up for ?
[2016-12-27 01:25:21] micmix : Nerve: apparently we are waiting for new money tomorrow when western banks open. everyone will transfer their savings to bitcoin
[2016-12-27 01:25:31] mariomarco : lol
[2016-12-27 01:25:41] mariomarco : "everyone" "savings" "transfer"
[2016-12-27 01:25:56] Nerve : LOL
[2016-12-27 01:26:02] micmix : he-he
[2016-12-27 01:26:19] mariomarco : "IRA" "401k"
[2016-12-27 01:26:21] mariomarco : :P
[2016-12-27 01:26:28] wellerchang : AHHHHHHHHHHH
[2016-12-27 01:26:42] mariomarco : i got a full bag of """", i can keep doing this until i die
[2016-12-27 01:26:43] mariomarco : :P
[2016-12-27 01:26:56] wellerchang : waiting for green dildo
[2016-12-27 01:27:03] wellerchang : here it comes
[2016-12-27 01:27:05] Nerve : if everyone will do that tomorrow morning, then 2morrow evening we will have 1BTC = 100.000usd
[2016-12-27 01:28:05] micmix : I'm ready to sell for 10000 today if anyone interested
[2016-12-27 01:28:13] memes : shorting btc, dare I do it xD
[2016-12-27 01:28:40] wellerchang : ITS A TRAP
[2016-12-27 01:28:43] mjones : short the bottom. not even once
[2016-12-27 01:29:57] mjones : maybe we legit running out of above $900 buyers
[2016-12-27 01:30:36] Speran49 : it's heading down dingbats
[2016-12-27 01:30:41] Speran49 : i've been short for hours
[2016-12-27 01:30:43] Tr : buy the dip
[2016-12-27 01:30:51] Speran49 : :|
[2016-12-27 01:30:53] Tr : i am wiring my fiat now
[2016-12-27 01:30:56] Tr : to buy the dips!
[2016-12-27 01:31:03] wellerchang : IN B4 GREEN DILDO?!
[2016-12-27 01:31:21] mariomarco : wellerchang: inb4 820
[2016-12-27 01:31:22] mjones : short the epic bull trap
[2016-12-27 01:31:24] mjones : that was a nice bounce
[2016-12-27 01:31:36] mjones : xmr breaking up
[2016-12-27 01:31:48] Tr : anyone BUYING THE DIP?
[2016-12-27 01:31:53] Tr : lets buy the dip togethere
[2016-12-27 01:31:59] wellerchang : LETS DO IT
[2016-12-27 01:32:14] deep : I ll be buying the dip
[2016-12-27 01:32:40] memes : man I meant to get on monero but its too high now :(
[2016-12-27 01:32:46] Speran49 : 893 is your first buy level
[2016-12-27 01:34:40] narnarfromnarnia : dummp
[2016-12-27 01:34:52] wellerchang : PUMP
[2016-12-27 01:34:52] Naloxone : okcoin, just let it dump
[2016-12-27 01:34:53] Tr : nah its already going up
[2016-12-27 01:34:58] Tr : Crooked China wont let price fall
[2016-12-27 01:35:54] wellerchang : LOCK THEM UP
[2016-12-27 01:36:00] mjones : china buys it back up and throws up 600 BTC buy wall at 6450 cny
[2016-12-27 01:36:06] Speran49 : just because price doesnt fall in 5 seconds doesnt mean it wont fall
[2016-12-27 01:36:14] memes : nah guys I opened a short so its going to go up
[2016-12-27 01:36:21] Speran49 : everything right now points to continued down
[2016-12-27 01:36:26] Speran49 : patience.
[2016-12-27 01:36:30] mariomarco : Speran49: +1
[2016-12-27 01:37:01] Tr : it cant go down
[2016-12-27 01:37:14] Tr : i've been told its going to be sideways and up to 1000 in next few days
[2016-12-27 01:37:17] Tr : its been confirmed
[2016-12-27 01:37:42] wellerchang : BY satashus himself!
[2016-12-27 01:37:44] Angelika : Tr: lol
[2016-12-27 01:38:36] Tr : see already up
[2016-12-27 01:39:05] Tr : i expect another mini ladder of green candles on Huobi that looks weird as f
[2016-12-27 01:40:41] wellerchang : hes right
[2016-12-27 01:40:49] Nerve : yes
[2016-12-27 01:40:51] wellerchang : the game is rigged
[2016-12-27 01:41:13] Nerve : green candles showed up on huobi
[2016-12-27 01:42:17] Angelika : everything is rigged to take your money
[2016-12-27 01:43:01] mjones : okcoin stacked another 600 btc at 6450 cny. in before it gets sold into again
[2016-12-27 01:43:32] MikeHunt : yuan is loosing value
[2016-12-27 01:43:40] MikeHunt : might be looking at a pump
[2016-12-27 01:44:06] mjones : meh. probably already priced in
[2016-12-27 01:44:14] mjones : maybe too priced in and we need a correction dump
[2016-12-27 01:44:21] Speran49 : as long as RSI 15 min points donw and doesnt break my trendline
[2016-12-27 01:44:22] Speran49 : im staying short
[2016-12-27 01:44:38] Speran49 : short since 910
[2016-12-27 01:44:39] Speran49 : :)
[2016-12-27 01:44:53] wellerchang : we need satan to deliver us to the depths of hell
[2016-12-27 01:45:14] wellerchang : here comes the dildo
[2016-12-27 01:45:23] wellerchang : the fuck you bears dildo
[2016-12-27 01:45:29] mjones : china here we go. new ath incoming
[2016-12-27 01:47:00] wellerchang : time to make 4650 support again!
[2016-12-27 01:47:05] Angelika : you guys sound like the pump team
[2016-12-27 01:47:07] wellerchang : i mean 6500
[2016-12-27 01:47:45] wellerchang : PUMP
[2016-12-27 01:48:51] Naloxone : The sheer stupidity of this pump is unprecedented . Ridiculously low volume and blatant manipulation by the chinese. Everything looks wrong and very fishy, I think it will crash very hard eventually
[2016-12-27 01:48:57] mjones : china making bitcoin great again since 2015
[2016-12-27 01:48:58] Nerve : so @Tr was right
[2016-12-27 01:49:00] wellerchang : 10,000 yuan is coming tomorrow
[2016-12-27 01:49:27] Tr : ye crooked China wont let the fake price fall
[2016-12-27 01:49:37] mjones : everyone putting their christmas money into bitcoin this week
[2016-12-27 01:50:06] MikeHunt : wellerchang: says who?
[2016-12-27 01:50:09] Nerve : mjones: agreee
[2016-12-27 01:50:12] Tr : ye i am sure price bouncing because Joe average wired his xmas money and bough them dips
[2016-12-27 01:50:42] mjones : wall street fat cats got their bonus.
[2016-12-27 01:50:43] wellerchang : the plunge protection team said so
[2016-12-27 01:50:53] Speran49 : i see no pump
[2016-12-27 01:50:57] Speran49 : what are you guys taking about?
[2016-12-27 01:51:03] mjones : you must not be looking at a china chart
[2016-12-27 01:51:06] Speran49 : huobi has barely moved
[2016-12-27 01:51:08] narnarfromnarnia : it'll dump a bit then go up
[2016-12-27 01:51:19] narnarfromnarnia : or alot again
[2016-12-27 01:51:24] mjones : 6436 cny to 6462 cny on 0kcoin
[2016-12-27 01:51:29] mjones : and climbing
[2016-12-27 01:51:37] Speran49 : thats nothing
[2016-12-27 01:51:38] Speran49 : a blip
[2016-12-27 01:51:41] mjones : psh
[2016-12-27 01:51:45] Speran49 : you're watching on 1min or some shit
[2016-12-27 01:51:47] mjones : it's the start of something great
[2016-12-27 01:52:00] mjones : you gotta look at the 1 minute to see the start of something great
[2016-12-27 01:52:03] mjones : otherwise you'll miss it
[2016-12-27 01:52:10] Speran49 : if you watch below 15 min then you're an impatient fool
[2016-12-27 01:52:14] narnarfromnarnia : accumulation here but it will need to go down
[2016-12-27 01:52:21] narnarfromnarnia : 1m 100x
[2016-12-27 01:52:21] Speran49 : and you will miss the bigger picture everytime
[2016-12-27 01:52:23] narnarfromnarnia : bra
[2016-12-27 01:52:34] mjones : gotta look at the 1 minute to be able to enter your longs and shorts and the top and bottom
[2016-12-27 01:52:36] MikeHunt : i trade by 1hour
[2016-12-27 01:52:41] Speran49 : been there done that
[2016-12-27 01:52:45] Nerve : narnarfromnarnia: big balls is back in town ?
[2016-12-27 01:52:56] Speran49 : 15 min is great for swings. Trade 50x and use more btc
[2016-12-27 01:53:01] Speran49 : no reason to use 100x margin
[2016-12-27 01:53:01] narnarfromnarnia : Nerve: just a small amount let's see if i can get 880
[2016-12-27 01:53:21] Nerve : narnarfromnarnia: not today
[2016-12-27 01:53:27] Speran49 : i been doing this for fun for 3 days instead of playing games. This is my game. I'm up 300%
[2016-12-27 01:53:40] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.tradingview.com/x/xjGxpfs9/
[2016-12-27 01:53:49] Speran49 : but ive been trading in the normal markets for 6 years
[2016-12-27 01:53:54] cookielito : I was up 3000%
[2016-12-27 01:53:57] narnarfromnarnia : Speran49: it'll all be wiped out soon
[2016-12-27 01:53:58] cookielito : then got wiped
[2016-12-27 01:54:05] Speran49 : lol
[2016-12-27 01:54:06] narnarfromnarnia : cookielito: my point right there
[2016-12-27 01:54:11] Speran49 : it won't
[2016-12-27 01:54:17] Speran49 : trade with only 5% of portfolio per trade
[2016-12-27 01:54:19] cookielito : it happens
[2016-12-27 01:54:21] narnarfromnarnia : cookielito: what were you trading small big leverage trades?
[2016-12-27 01:54:22] Speran49 : keep tight stop loss
[2016-12-27 01:54:35] Speran49 : no one trade wipes you out and you minimize losses
[2016-12-27 01:54:38] cookielito : i started with 150 bucks
[2016-12-27 01:54:42] narnarfromnarnia : nice
[2016-12-27 01:54:42] cookielito : ended up with 4.6 btc
[2016-12-27 01:54:43] Speran49 : it's math guys
[2016-12-27 01:54:52] MikeHunt : majority of pump is coming from china which is collapsing
[2016-12-27 01:55:02] narnarfromnarnia : cookielito: im at couple hundred just got wiped 2.6
[2016-12-27 01:55:02] cookielito : then took out a 100k position
[2016-12-27 01:55:11] cookielito : lobg
[2016-12-27 01:55:17] Speran49 : idiiot
[2016-12-27 01:55:20] cookielito : and a flash crash killed me
[2016-12-27 01:55:24] Speran49 : you never put that much in 1 trade
[2016-12-27 01:55:31] MikeHunt : yup
[2016-12-27 01:55:41] Speran49 : mikehunt is the only one here who seems to konw what he is doing
[2016-12-27 01:55:49] MikeHunt : but makes the least money
[2016-12-27 01:55:50] MikeHunt : lol
[2016-12-27 01:55:54] cookielito : leverage here is too insane
[2016-12-27 01:55:57] Speran49 : probably lose the least too
[2016-12-27 01:55:57] Tr : the only true way to trade is to go all-in on 100x
[2016-12-27 01:56:07] Speran49 : that's called gambling Tr
[2016-12-27 01:56:08] narnarfromnarnia : Tr: when we're flat like this
[2016-12-27 01:56:09] narnarfromnarnia : ya
[2016-12-27 01:56:10] Speran49 : they have casinos for that
[2016-12-27 01:56:18] MikeHunt : so far im up $1.5k since 2013 bubble but i reckon i could do better
[2016-12-27 01:56:20] narnarfromnarnia : it's either black jack or this
[2016-12-27 01:56:38] narnarfromnarnia : it's fun making 1k or losing 1k a day
[2016-12-27 01:56:47] Speran49 : its fun?
[2016-12-27 01:56:49] Speran49 : 1k is a lot
[2016-12-27 01:56:49] Speran49 : lol
[2016-12-27 01:56:55] Speran49 : id rather make 200 a day and not lose it
[2016-12-27 01:56:59] narnarfromnarnia : ya i lost 2.6btc 2 days ago
[2016-12-27 01:57:01] narnarfromnarnia : so fun
[2016-12-27 01:57:09] Speran49 : shoulda listen to sherry and I
[2016-12-27 01:57:13] narnarfromnarnia : but would have been like 6btc
[2016-12-27 01:57:14] Speran49 : you'd have kept it
[2016-12-27 01:57:25] Speran49 : just go short
[2016-12-27 01:57:25] narnarfromnarnia : $2 to my liq price
[2016-12-27 01:57:35] traxor : MikeHunt I made 8K on Christmas Day -- Pure luck of course... :D
[2016-12-27 01:57:36] cookielito : long or short speran?
[2016-12-27 01:57:43] Speran49 : short.
[2016-12-27 01:57:45] MikeHunt : generally buying the dips on RSI 1hour is pretty sure bet for $$$$
[2016-12-27 01:58:03] MikeHunt : traxor: i would have made $1k if i had caught the china pumps in time
[2016-12-27 01:58:04] Speran49 : RSi 1 hr is clear down
[2016-12-27 01:58:06] Naloxone : I am done with Bitcoin for today, will long some ETCWIN better
[2016-12-27 01:58:59] traxor : I was serious about being lucky -- lol. Also -- as far as your indicators go -- once the 4hr MACD turns green -- imo, that means GO!
[2016-12-27 01:59:01] MikeHunt : Speran49: i usually wait til its around or bellow 30
[2016-12-27 01:59:11] cookielito : stay short
[2016-12-27 01:59:15] cookielito : but cover soon
[2016-12-27 01:59:29] Speran49 : i have specialized RSI that helps me a lot
[2016-12-27 02:00:06] MikeHunt : i use bitcoinwisdom
[2016-12-27 02:00:18] Speran49 : anyway, imma go read a book and keep an eye in background. Sitting here is waste of time ;)
[2016-12-27 02:00:31] Speran49 : if i am wrong, next bus in 10 mins hehe
[2016-12-27 02:00:35] Speran49 : remember that and you will never lose
[2016-12-27 02:01:59] MikeHunt : lol
[2016-12-27 02:02:53] traxor : MikeHunt: RSI is a MINOR indicator in most circumstances -- obviously the RSI divergence is important; otherwise 3rd to 5th down on the list. I'll step out now, since I'm a newcomer... Best of luck trading to EVERYONE here for the rest of the year!
[2016-12-27 02:03:41] Speran49 : all i use is RSI div. + fibs and s/r
[2016-12-27 02:03:43] Speran49 : :)
[2016-12-27 02:03:48] Speran49 : kiss
[2016-12-27 02:04:00] Nerve : narnarfromnarnia: OUCH
[2016-12-27 02:04:05] cookielito : dmt predicts flawlessly
[2016-12-27 02:04:15] cookielito : kidding
[2016-12-27 02:04:28] ett1 : s/r breakouts, donchian channels. i look at trendline, flag/triangles
[2016-12-27 02:04:37] ett1 : thats my TA
[2016-12-27 02:04:55] sleger : i look at morons in the chat and do the opposite, thats my TA
[2016-12-27 02:05:09] Speran49 : sleger: +!
[2016-12-27 02:05:13] Speran49 : sleger: +1
[2016-12-27 02:05:25] happy : lol
[2016-12-27 02:07:01] ett1 : my spidey sense is tingling
[2016-12-27 02:07:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: sell 10000 @ 901.68
[2016-12-27 02:07:27] arbitrage001 : good morning
[2016-12-27 02:07:34] arbitrage001 : how is everyone doing
[2016-12-27 02:07:45] arbitrage001 : getting rich?
[2016-12-27 02:07:53] sleger : ^he is a good trollbox indicator
[2016-12-27 02:07:59] ett1 : nothing changing
[2016-12-27 02:08:01] narnarfromnarnia : hold on to yer shorts
[2016-12-27 02:08:04] Speran49 : ahahahha
[2016-12-27 02:08:07] Speran49 : good to know sleger
[2016-12-27 02:08:20] arbitrage001 : i dont understand
[2016-12-27 02:08:25] Speran49 : i've found narnar to be a good opposite one as well ;)
[2016-12-27 02:08:31] sleger : that's the point @arbitrage001
[2016-12-27 02:09:22] narnarfromnarnia : Speran49: lol i've done alright before just got wiped
[2016-12-27 02:09:47] Speran49 : yeah i know im kidding. I don't care what anyone does. I follow my plan and mine only.
[2016-12-27 02:09:48] narnarfromnarnia : i keep forgeting that i don't have to trade everyday and i lose it
[2016-12-27 02:10:01] ett1 : you need to preserve your chips to play
[2016-12-27 02:10:03] Speran49 : you must learn patience. How old are you?
[2016-12-27 02:10:12] Speran49 : i dont think anyone below 26 should be trading
[2016-12-27 02:10:12] narnarfromnarnia : 1hr looks down to 888
[2016-12-27 02:10:15] narnarfromnarnia : to me
[2016-12-27 02:10:19] narnarfromnarnia : thats what im sticking too
[2016-12-27 02:10:27] Speran49 : it requires a patience you don't develop till after that age
[2016-12-27 02:10:36] ett1 : Speran49: lol. yes they should make it a law
[2016-12-27 02:10:43] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-27 02:10:46] ett1 : hahahaha @Speran49
[2016-12-27 02:11:10] ett1 : at 25 something clicks
[2016-12-27 02:11:18] ett1 : dont bother kids
[2016-12-27 02:12:30] ett1 : i'm 25 and a half. should i wait until i reach my maturity
[2016-12-27 02:12:58] Speran49 : nah this is how you know if you're doing it right
[2016-12-27 02:12:59] Speran49 : when you trade
[2016-12-27 02:13:02] Speran49 : for each trade
[2016-12-27 02:13:08] Speran49 : if you don't give a shit if you lose it
[2016-12-27 02:13:15] Speran49 : you know you're trading the correct amt
[2016-12-27 02:13:20] Speran49 : and you will succeed
[2016-12-27 02:13:36] Speran49 : otherwise you're screwed and you'll cause yourself a lot of stress
[2016-12-27 02:14:09] ett1 : yes i suppose. got to feel a bit of pain for the rewards to be worth it though
[2016-12-27 02:14:09] Speran49 : think about trading like a jo
[2016-12-27 02:14:17] Speran49 : no think of it like a job
[2016-12-27 02:14:28] Speran49 : if you normal job after tax is $20 an hour
[2016-12-27 02:14:33] Speran49 : or even $15 an hour AFTER TAX
[2016-12-27 02:14:49] ett1 : i think you mean you need exprience. i dont htink age has anything to do with patience or tarding skill
[2016-12-27 02:14:57] Speran49 : then if you spend 5 hrs on a trade and the profit is $100 you still did better than most ppl in america
[2016-12-27 02:15:08] Speran49 : no age helps too
[2016-12-27 02:15:11] mjones : xmr mooning