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[2016-12-26 22:03:40] Tr : fake as f
[2016-12-26 22:04:22] Nerve : Maybe...
[2016-12-26 22:04:32] mjones : china bots are being overpowered
[2016-12-26 22:04:35] wellerchang : I DO THAT EVERYDAY
[2016-12-26 22:04:40] wellerchang : 300BTC MARKET BUY ALL DAY
[2016-12-26 22:04:45] Tr : :D
[2016-12-26 22:04:50] mjones : must be running low on that unlimited money
[2016-12-26 22:04:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1 @ 0.004810
[2016-12-26 22:05:12] mjones : time to cut my losses and short to make it back
[2016-12-26 22:05:23] CaptainDean : mjones: going short ?
[2016-12-26 22:05:31] bingbongfly : btc down to 5 dollar tommorow,
[2016-12-26 22:05:45] mjones : lol no. i'm gonna hold my long from $917 for a bit longer
[2016-12-26 22:06:11] Tr : China bots buying up
[2016-12-26 22:06:12] mjones : only up 319% now
[2016-12-26 22:06:14] Tr : no problem
[2016-12-26 22:07:00] mariomarco : falling
[2016-12-26 22:07:29] Tr : Breaking out of a triangle? I think i will buy 100 btc right here (c) legit chinese buyer
[2016-12-26 22:07:31] mjones : if 6400 cny breaks then i might worry
[2016-12-26 22:08:00] wellerchang : EVERYTHING DOWN TO AT LEAST 6100 NEEDS TO BREAK
[2016-12-26 22:08:16] rapidtrades : weller chang shut the hell up
[2016-12-26 22:08:23] Tr : notice how other exchanges know that China is full of shit
[2016-12-26 22:08:32] Tr : bitstamp was 900$ whole day
[2016-12-26 22:08:43] Tr : while China moving around with fake money
[2016-12-26 22:10:16] mjones : china all fluff. no substance
[2016-12-26 22:10:23] Tr : another bottom again
[2016-12-26 22:10:28] Tr : ppl buying 100 btc per second
[2016-12-26 22:10:30] Tr : seems legit man
[2016-12-26 22:10:44] dodic : lol... china all fluff... accounts for majority of bitcoin volume
[2016-12-26 22:10:50] dodic : solid logic
[2016-12-26 22:11:03] Tr : considering that OKcoin faked volume to pump LTC
[2016-12-26 22:11:11] Tr : i wouldnt trust china very much
[2016-12-26 22:11:52] Tr : remember when near ATH
[2016-12-26 22:11:58] Tr : exchanges moved to around 950$
[2016-12-26 22:12:04] Tr : and MTgox was still pumping 1200+
[2016-12-26 22:12:09] Tr : same shit here
[2016-12-26 22:13:05] wellerchang : IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF
[2016-12-26 22:13:07] mjones : Tr china has been doing this since 1500 CNY. i always wondered how they could do it then and all the way up to 6500 CNY nonstop for years and still have BTC left
[2016-12-26 22:13:37] Tr : just opened their order history
[2016-12-26 22:13:45] mjones : good job people who dumped at 961 on xbth17. better buy back in at 967 before you miss the rocket launch to ath
[2016-12-26 22:13:46] Tr : 450 btc market buy last second
[2016-12-26 22:13:50] Tr : another 50
[2016-12-26 22:13:53] Tr : another 85
[2016-12-26 22:13:55] Tr : lmao
[2016-12-26 22:13:57] Tr : ye, ok
[2016-12-26 22:14:10] Nerve : Tr: so what is your prediction for 2morrow ?
[2016-12-26 22:14:26] mjones : something is fishy with China having OKCoin, Huobi and BTCC. They all a front for some shady shit
[2016-12-26 22:14:26] Tr : not going to predict the fake manipulated market
[2016-12-26 22:15:00] Nerve : Tr: ok, how you will play ?
[2016-12-26 22:15:11] mjones : no matter the price 0kcoin will put up a 1000-2000 btc wall near the price
[2016-12-26 22:15:23] Tr : i am not playing when its rigged
[2016-12-26 22:15:44] narnarfromnarnia : mjones: triads
[2016-12-26 22:15:52] narnarfromnarnia : casino guys
[2016-12-26 22:15:56] narnarfromnarnia : all money l
[2016-12-26 22:15:58] narnarfromnarnia : im sure
[2016-12-26 22:16:12] rapidtrades : whenever we go down it's always manipulation from China...when we go up its Chinese using bitcoin to evade capital controls
[2016-12-26 22:16:34] rapidtrades : or poor illiterate Indians who have just discovered bitcoin
[2016-12-26 22:16:41] Tr : you dont need manipulation to go down with artificially pumped price
[2016-12-26 22:17:33] Tr : Yeah i am not buying this narrative that btc reddit and forums trying to push, that price going up becomes Joe Schmo wiring money to buy BTC because its cool
[2016-12-26 22:18:07] mjones : 0kcoin using 5x leverage to pump the price 5x higher
[2016-12-26 22:18:58] Yuppie : Quick question: why do some trades carry a negative fee? I just got paid for a trade...
[2016-12-26 22:19:22] mjones : there goes XMR
[2016-12-26 22:19:55] mariomarco : Tr: +1 THIS
[2016-12-26 22:19:57] mjones : excluding bitfinex pump it has been 40 days since XMR has been this high
[2016-12-26 22:19:59] rapidtrades : Yuppie: u get paid if u have an order resting on the orderbook and smone fills it
[2016-12-26 22:20:39] Yuppie : Really? And I pay for market? Shouldn't it be the reverse?
[2016-12-26 22:20:56] rapidtrades : no?
[2016-12-26 22:21:00] mjones : if everyone got paid to market buy then who would put orders on the orderbook
[2016-12-26 22:21:21] Naloxone : It's should crash. This pump looks ridiculously manipulated
[2016-12-26 22:22:01] mjones : all right Naloxone. dumping my btc long to long xmr
[2016-12-26 22:22:05] Yuppie : Alright...good to know for the future...
[2016-12-26 22:22:22] mjones : all in short the overbought btc
[2016-12-26 22:22:38] Naloxone : mjones: Good idea. I did it on Friday
[2016-12-26 22:22:38] mjones : everyone longed the bulltrap and gonna get rekt
[2016-12-26 22:23:21] rapidtrades : Rado: how's ur bot doing?
[2016-12-26 22:23:50] mjones : i think the dump will wait for the next daily candle in 97 minutes
[2016-12-26 22:28:55] narnarfromnarnia : mjones: could be a spike up though to play
[2016-12-26 22:29:07] rapidtrades : not gonna lie, $8 premium for 3.5 days is mighty stupid
[2016-12-26 22:29:08] narnarfromnarnia : i hope we see 890 before 910 is all
[2016-12-26 22:30:30] rapidtrades : for the mathematically challenged, that's 92% annualized
[2016-12-26 22:30:51] halloz : It amazes me we've been up here for this long
[2016-12-26 22:30:51] mjones : yeah i'm surprised too. first it was under a lot and now over a lot
[2016-12-26 22:30:55] mjones : a lot of dumb money on here
[2016-12-26 22:32:27] wellerchang : where to see short/long funding rates?
[2016-12-26 22:33:47] rapidtrades : <<<<<<^^^^^^^^^^^^
[2016-12-26 22:34:25] BitMEX_Greg : wellerchang: At the top of the page next to "Funding" and also in the contract details on the left hand side
[2016-12-26 22:34:40] Naloxone : wellerchang: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD
[2016-12-26 22:34:42] BitMEX_Greg : Information here also: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD
[2016-12-26 22:34:54] BitMEX_Greg : And past rates can be viewed here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-12-26 22:35:27] wellerchang : thanks, a little hard to find + vs - on the top, but shows in the contract spec,
[2016-12-26 22:35:57] rapidtrades : yeah UI design is pretty terrible
[2016-12-26 22:36:12] wellerchang : i like UI
[2016-12-26 22:36:24] rapidtrades : YOU WEREN'T HERE WHEN IT WAS BETTER
[2016-12-26 22:36:31] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Greg: can a leverage wipe your balance?
[2016-12-26 22:37:05] wellerchang : WHAT IF I WAS HERE SINCE BEGINNING OF TIME?
[2016-12-26 22:37:22] rapidtrades : Then I would've know ur name f*cker
[2016-12-26 22:37:35] wellerchang : I AM SATASHIS
[2016-12-26 22:38:57] BitMEX_Greg : MikeHunt: How do you mean?
[2016-12-26 22:39:00] wellerchang : @bitmex greg you should put +/- for long/short on the top section for funding
[2016-12-26 22:39:54] halloz : Can an all in on black jack get you broke? trololo
[2016-12-26 22:40:37] BitMEX_Greg : wellerchang: If it doesn't have a sign then it is positive. It will show - in front if it is a negative rate
[2016-12-26 22:41:09] wellerchang : nice, ok!
[2016-12-26 22:42:45] mariomarco : DIIIIP
[2016-12-26 22:43:01] rapidtrades : BDFD
[2016-12-26 22:43:09] Tr : the huobi 1min chart is hillarious
[2016-12-26 22:43:19] Tr : a ladder of fake buy pips
[2016-12-26 22:43:33] mariomarco : crash and burn bois
[2016-12-26 22:43:50] Tr : bots are taking care of people trying to sell
[2016-12-26 22:43:51] Tr : np
[2016-12-26 22:43:55] wellerchang : bots are programmed for non stop buying whenever price drops
[2016-12-26 22:44:09] wellerchang : and no stop until next resistance
[2016-12-26 22:44:22] rapidtrades : hmmm $4 for 4 days on okc....also retarded
[2016-12-26 22:44:27] halloz : Aand we're goin back up
[2016-12-26 22:44:39] rapidtrades : we've gone from domo to fomo while prices didn't change much
[2016-12-26 22:44:47] Tr : ye "market" decided that its a bottom
[2016-12-26 22:44:50] Tr : legit stuff
[2016-12-26 22:44:52] rapidtrades : all the retards back from christmas?
[2016-12-26 22:45:07] justinlooking : reporting
[2016-12-26 22:45:25] rapidtrades : justinlooking: are u long?
[2016-12-26 22:45:55] rapidtrades : what's so funny is they pumped 1w and 2w but left march unpumped
[2016-12-26 22:45:58] justinlooking : yup balls deep
[2016-12-26 22:47:20] wellerchang : going to kill myself if it goes back to 6500
[2016-12-26 22:47:22] Tr : i wonder what happens to the price when huobi will turn off their buying bot
[2016-12-26 22:47:36] Tr : its the most blatant manipulation ever
[2016-12-26 22:48:51] CaptainDean : wellerchang: i wouldn't bet on 6500 right now
[2016-12-26 22:49:28] mariomarco : Tr: why would they turn it off
[2016-12-26 22:50:17] justinlooking : lost of disjointedness right now: http://imgur.com/oozdH69
[2016-12-26 22:51:13] MikeHunt : justinlooking: wheres that data from?
[2016-12-26 22:52:37] rapidtrades : IT'S FAKE
[2016-12-26 22:52:39] rapidtrades : HE FAKED IT
[2016-12-26 22:52:42] rapidtrades : IT'S FAKE NEWS
[2016-12-26 22:53:20] justinlooking : MikeHunt: a tool i made
[2016-12-26 22:53:38] BitFan : what's fake?
[2016-12-26 22:54:05] rapidtrades : justinlooking: I'm calling Mike Zuckerberg
[2016-12-26 22:54:34] rapidtrades : sleger prolly has his number
[2016-12-26 22:54:43] rapidtrades : all those rich c*nts know each other
[2016-12-26 22:55:13] Tr : Bitstamp tried to sell
[2016-12-26 22:55:15] wellerchang : look here come 6500
[2016-12-26 22:55:23] Tr : tough luck with china bots taking care of that
[2016-12-26 22:55:36] wellerchang : any sell must be met with equal or greater buy
[2016-12-26 22:55:53] Tr : or you can just fake buy coins from yourself
[2016-12-26 22:57:49] justinlooking : timelapse of same thing from august: https://gfycat.com/PepperyAcclaimedHart
[2016-12-26 22:59:37] wellerchang : thats very cool!
[2016-12-26 22:59:45] wellerchang : you should put it online somewhere
[2016-12-26 23:04:30] justinlooking : thanks - hoping someone will replicate it ;)
[2016-12-26 23:07:44] justinlooking : it scrapes tradeblock's public api for the data, and uses plotlyjs to render, which pegs my cpu even at 2fps. needs a real js/devops guru to move it out of concept to something deployable
[2016-12-26 23:07:58] justinlooking : rapid is that ur stringy bot on bid in xbtusd???
[2016-12-26 23:12:53] wellerchang : here comes 6500!
[2016-12-26 23:14:21] narnarfromnarnia : 100x short
[2016-12-26 23:14:23] narnarfromnarnia : let's drop
[2016-12-26 23:14:43] narnarfromnarnia : trip top coming up
[2016-12-26 23:15:23] wellerchang : INSANITY
[2016-12-26 23:15:44] narnarfromnarnia : what's with the flickering
[2016-12-26 23:15:48] narnarfromnarnia : some bots acting cray
[2016-12-26 23:16:36] Naloxone : Looks like the major western exchanges stopped buying this crap from China
[2016-12-26 23:18:14] MikeHunt : didnt someone say they were gonna kill themselves if it got to 6500?
[2016-12-26 23:18:29] wellerchang : ME
[2016-12-26 23:18:33] wellerchang : CYA
[2016-12-26 23:18:44] MikeHunt : live stream?
[2016-12-26 23:20:21] wellerchang : this is what pure insanity looks like
[2016-12-26 23:20:38] Tr : its not insanity
[2016-12-26 23:20:42] MikeHunt : usd/cny might explain it
[2016-12-26 23:20:45] Tr : they do w/e they want with the price
[2016-12-26 23:20:46] Naloxone : Bitfinex started pumping too
[2016-12-26 23:22:36] Nerve : tchu tchu tchu
[2016-12-26 23:24:07] amirmass : time for the moonshot
[2016-12-26 23:24:20] MikeHunt : its meant to be crashing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEvYzpobteg
[2016-12-26 23:25:47] Nerve : LOL
[2016-12-26 23:33:09] narnarfromnarnia : that funding rate is high no?
[2016-12-26 23:33:27] narnarfromnarnia : means people will want to exit that soon i wonder
[2016-12-26 23:33:31] narnarfromnarnia : wait for it to drop
[2016-12-26 23:33:41] narnarfromnarnia : bag holders paying big interest
[2016-12-26 23:34:44] CaptainDean : 4 hours 25 mins
[2016-12-26 23:35:03] MikeHunt : i think correction to around 820 is likely
[2016-12-26 23:35:21] MikeHunt : then continuation towards ATH
[2016-12-26 23:35:46] MikeHunt : china still has a lot of capital left to outflow
[2016-12-26 23:36:44] MikeHunt : problem is it usually takes an exchange failure to crash it
[2016-12-26 23:37:38] justinlooking : in OrderbookL2, it apears f(price) = id. but what's f?
[2016-12-26 23:38:17] justinlooking : nvm
[2016-12-26 23:38:45] emperortrump : Can someone tell me how I set a simple stop loss trigger?
[2016-12-26 23:39:09] Nerve : narnarfromnarnia: dump incoming ?
[2016-12-26 23:39:17] Tr : there are 3 dots to the rifght of Market - Limit - Stop Market
[2016-12-26 23:39:26] Tr : you can choose Stop Limit from there
[2016-12-26 23:39:33] narnarfromnarnia : Nerve: i hope so
[2016-12-26 23:39:45] narnarfromnarnia : i give up on tA and anything i can think of after getting rekt now
[2016-12-26 23:39:52] emperortrump : Tr: Thanks.
[2016-12-26 23:39:59] narnarfromnarnia : that 870 didn't hold nad had like 40k for long
[2016-12-26 23:40:05] narnarfromnarnia : blown on $1 price
[2016-12-26 23:40:24] narnarfromnarnia : i really needed a bitcoin to hold that last minute but didn't know anyone to help me
[2016-12-26 23:40:59] Tr : you cant apply TA when price is manipulated by 1 shady exchange and all other exchanges are just watching what it does
[2016-12-26 23:41:08] Nerve : i think its going up @narnarfromnarnia
[2016-12-26 23:42:42] Nerve : lets see...
[2016-12-26 23:48:30] narnarfromnarnia : Nerve: i never really just pumps straight from dead vol though im just hoping for 890 880 but we'll see
[2016-12-26 23:48:41] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: are you shorting again?
[2016-12-26 23:48:51] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: ya
[2016-12-26 23:48:56] narnarfromnarnia : short short
[2016-12-26 23:48:59] l3f : lol
[2016-12-26 23:49:19] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: i got rekt man 863 went long at 870 with 50x
[2016-12-26 23:49:26] mjones : premium dropping on xbth17
[2016-12-26 23:49:37] narnarfromnarnia : mjones: increase
[2016-12-26 23:49:40] narnarfromnarnia : drop
[2016-12-26 23:49:45] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: it moves 5% a day
[2016-12-26 23:49:49] l3f : ya nee more margin dude
[2016-12-26 23:50:07] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: lost 2.6btc
[2016-12-26 23:50:13] narnarfromnarnia : depressing
[2016-12-26 23:50:16] narnarfromnarnia : but ev's
[2016-12-26 23:50:31] narnarfromnarnia : i wont it all on blackjack anyways at bovada
[2016-12-26 23:50:45] l3f : You degenerate gambler
[2016-12-26 23:50:48] MikeHunt : moving closer to the tipping point
[2016-12-26 23:50:50] narnarfromnarnia : anyone want to play there please use my email so i can try to win some hands to get back in here lol
[2016-12-26 23:51:14] MikeHunt : is there anyway to learn about the contract stuff?
[2016-12-26 23:51:19] MikeHunt : im just a vanilla buyer/seller
[2016-12-26 23:51:23] MikeHunt : sort of speculator
[2016-12-26 23:52:35] breadfan : what a confused fucking market today
[2016-12-26 23:55:18] micmix : MikeHunt: https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT
[2016-12-26 23:57:07] Angelika : micmix: hey man
[2016-12-26 23:57:20] Angelika : ops wrong account
[2016-12-26 23:57:29] Rado : hey micmix
[2016-12-26 23:58:06] Rado : do you change your spread dynamically based on market conditions?
[2016-12-26 23:58:11] Rado : or it's always the same
[2016-12-26 23:59:19] micmix : Angelika: now we know who makes all those fake girl accounts ;-)
[2016-12-26 23:59:29] Angelika : lol
[2016-12-26 23:59:39] Angelika : I just have this one
[2016-12-26 23:59:46] micmix : spread is dynamic
[2016-12-26 23:59:52] Angelika : and to my defence this is my wife's name
[2016-12-27 00:00:05] micmix : ok, I will let it pass this time
[2016-12-27 00:00:19] breadfan : fuck, i was getting turned on by having a girl trader in the trollbox :(
[2016-12-27 00:00:27] Angelika : micmix: how do you decide what the spread should be?
[2016-12-27 00:00:49] rapidtrades : WHERE WERE YOU WHEN BITCOIN HIT AN ALL-TIME HIGH?
[2016-12-27 00:01:41] micmix : Rado: it's based on available liquidity here, spreads on other exchanges and volatility
[2016-12-27 00:02:33] Rado : micmix: you can get the liquidity from teh API?
[2016-12-27 00:02:43] MikeHunt : micmix: ty
[2016-12-27 00:02:44] micmix : I'm not going to give you exact formula, I said too much already ;-)
[2016-12-27 00:02:51] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-27 00:02:55] Rado : agreed
[2016-12-27 00:03:03] Rado : just need guidance
[2016-12-27 00:03:06] Rado : thanks
[2016-12-27 00:04:33] rapidtrades : micmix: what's ur daily turnover on swap?
[2016-12-27 00:04:55] micmix : rapidtrades: not much, about 1k btc or so
[2016-12-27 00:05:14] micmix : depends on volatility
[2016-12-27 00:05:43] rapidtrades : that's almost 1 million dollars bro
[2016-12-27 00:06:12] micmix : yeah but it's less than 10% of total
[2016-12-27 00:06:20] rapidtrades : loool
[2016-12-27 00:06:21] halloz : Long from 902 - we'll see how this goes ;o
[2016-12-27 00:06:59] rapidtrades : so u make $250 per day from maker fees alone
[2016-12-27 00:07:08] rapidtrades : almost 100k per year
[2016-12-27 00:08:21] micmix : a bit less bc my bot is taker 10-20% of time
[2016-12-27 00:08:34] sleger : if you quote 0.01 spread for 10k contracts on swap you will make much more than that in making rebate, doesnt mean much on your actual pnl
[2016-12-27 00:08:48] sleger : @rapidtrades
[2016-12-27 00:09:13] micmix : yep, maker fees is less than 20% of profit usually
[2016-12-27 00:09:55] Angelika : for the 3 days I have ran the bot I traded 450k contarcts
[2016-12-27 00:10:28] Angelika : 2 of the days was changing code and settings though
[2016-12-27 00:10:28] mariomarco : Angelika: what bot
[2016-12-27 00:10:38] CaptainDean : this is the most interresting dicussion of the day :P
[2016-12-27 00:10:39] Angelika : to make it work
[2016-12-27 00:10:48] MikeHunt : so where does one get one of these bots?
[2016-12-27 00:11:21] Speran49 : you travel to the sugar cane forest
[2016-12-27 00:12:08] MikeHunt : i could probably code a bot, just curious if there was anything off the shelf
[2016-12-27 00:12:22] Speran49 : there probably is in dark corners of the net
[2016-12-27 00:12:26] ett1 : yes, click here to buy now
[2016-12-27 00:12:35] Angelika : MikeHunt: there is
[2016-12-27 00:12:40] mariomarco : MikeHunt: imo its not about coding its about the logic/angle behind it
[2016-12-27 00:12:45] Speran49 : why would someone sell one if it makes the money for them?
[2016-12-27 00:12:45] Angelika : BitMEX has a simple example bot
[2016-12-27 00:13:18] MikeHunt : im not asking for a money machine
[2016-12-27 00:13:18] rapidtrades : market making is dumb anyway, noone makes money doing it
[2016-12-27 00:13:23] MikeHunt : just something i can put my own formulas in
[2016-12-27 00:13:33] rapidtrades : we should just drop this pointless discussion
[2016-12-27 00:13:37] Speran49 : lol
[2016-12-27 00:13:38] ett1 : look at github
[2016-12-27 00:13:44] MikeHunt : yeh ill start there
[2016-12-27 00:13:45] micmix : rapidtrades: tbh my turnover is much less when volatility is low. it usually stays below 10% of total
[2016-12-27 00:13:49] ett1 : search "bitcoin trading bot' or something
[2016-12-27 00:13:59] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: I love you rapid
[2016-12-27 00:14:01] Speran49 : ive tried a million bots
[2016-12-27 00:14:08] Speran49 : i do much better just trading on my own w/o them
[2016-12-27 00:14:09] micmix : agree with rapidtrades, noone can make money market making
[2016-12-27 00:14:12] MikeHunt : i know how to trade bitcoin i just miss timings due to personal life/asleep
[2016-12-27 00:14:20] micmix : you all should stop trying
[2016-12-27 00:14:47] ett1 : MikeHunt: whats your timeframe
[2016-12-27 00:14:51] rapidtrades : +1
[2016-12-27 00:14:56] MikeHunt : ett1: 1 day
[2016-12-27 00:14:59] ett1 : dont bother with bots it yout trade daily
[2016-12-27 00:15:09] ett1 : like 1 week or 1 month positions
[2016-12-27 00:15:17] ett1 : you should learn about backtesting instead
[2016-12-27 00:15:23] mjones : where the fuck is btc going
[2016-12-27 00:15:25] ett1 : rather than arbitrage bots
[2016-12-27 00:15:39] Speran49 : trend is down mjone
[2016-12-27 00:15:44] Speran49 : but it could go up short term
[2016-12-27 00:15:46] Speran49 : you never know!
[2016-12-27 00:15:53] MikeHunt : ett1: ill have to set up some app to tell me wen there is a good dip
[2016-12-27 00:15:58] ett1 : use a platform thats already built for tsting trading systems, rather than building from scratch
[2016-12-27 00:16:32] MikeHunt : its just broken down throu a trendline it seems
[2016-12-27 00:16:42] ett1 : MikeHunt: like based on price change, or a momentum indicator?
[2016-12-27 00:16:57] MikeHunt : ett1: i think the kramer method is 5% drop
[2016-12-27 00:17:21] MikeHunt : but i know how i would program it
[2016-12-27 00:17:27] MikeHunt : i just need an SDK to play with
[2016-12-27 00:17:28] Speran49 : <shrugs>
[2016-12-27 00:17:29] ett1 : ok. but how do u know if buying after 5% drop or 15% drop is best
[2016-12-27 00:17:30] MikeHunt : since im very busy
[2016-12-27 00:17:36] Speran49 : im short waiting on further confirmation
[2016-12-27 00:17:56] ett1 : making a bot to send the alerts wont be helpful, if you dont know how the trades persom
[2016-12-27 00:17:59] ett1 : perform
[2016-12-27 00:18:03] MikeHunt : ett1: well i'd have to program technical analysis into it
[2016-12-27 00:18:18] ett1 : thats why i suggest tradestatation or similar
[2016-12-27 00:18:26] Speran49 : dont bother
[2016-12-27 00:18:27] ett1 : built for testing TA
[2016-12-27 00:18:28] MikeHunt : ill hvae a look
[2016-12-27 00:18:28] Speran49 : stick to manual trading
[2016-12-27 00:18:39] Speran49 : ive bakctested and tried for 1000 hrs
[2016-12-27 00:18:40] ett1 : rather than spread trading, or market making
[2016-12-27 00:18:57] ett1 : thats what you build your own bit for. youll need to be decent programmer
[2016-12-27 00:18:58] halloz : 901 CHEAP coin
[2016-12-27 00:18:58] Speran49 : but good luck if you decide to ;)
[2016-12-27 00:19:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 400 @ 958.05
[2016-12-27 00:19:59] MikeHunt : ett1: i think i can do the programming part
[2016-12-27 00:21:41] traxor : Hi mike -- my arb bots and sideways market bots work awesome -- the dynamic market bots are constantly fucking up -- fyi from someone who has tried.
[2016-12-27 00:22:04] ett1 : ok ye theres some online examples if you look
[2016-12-27 00:22:16] micmix : MikeHunt: if you want to backtest your strategies try tradewave.net
[2016-12-27 00:23:42] MikeHunt : traxor: what do you actually use to make them thou?
[2016-12-27 00:24:04] traxor : I use haas bots
[2016-12-27 00:24:47] ett1 : for anyone why runs bots
[2016-12-27 00:25:09] MikeHunt : micmix: ty ill check that out
[2016-12-27 00:25:11] ett1 : how long do the systems work for, before they 'stop working'
[2016-12-27 00:25:17] ett1 : youve ran some for years?
[2016-12-27 00:25:39] ett1 : or need to keep testing & tweaking every few months
[2016-12-27 00:25:41] ett1 : ?
[2016-12-27 00:25:46] MikeHunt : i'd rather make something that asks for confirmation before making a move
[2016-12-27 00:25:47] ett1 : as consditions change
[2016-12-27 00:26:16] ett1 : MikeHunt: then you probably want to be a manual trader
[2016-12-27 00:26:28] ett1 : using alerts only
[2016-12-27 00:26:33] MikeHunt : ett1: ive found the phone apps arent very reliable
[2016-12-27 00:26:45] ett1 : tradingview?
[2016-12-27 00:26:47] breadfan : set some alerts on tradingview
[2016-12-27 00:26:49] breadfan : yeah
[2016-12-27 00:26:53] ett1 : i use bitcointicker app which is good for me
[2016-12-27 00:27:52] MikeHunt : issue ive found with apps is they arent persistent
[2016-12-27 00:28:02] MikeHunt : i want something thats like my alarm clock
[2016-12-27 00:28:08] MikeHunt : wont shut up til i manually turn it off
[2016-12-27 00:28:16] MikeHunt : i sleep hevy
[2016-12-27 00:28:34] traxor : I'm constantly tweaking -- like I said -- some bots work fine with minimal tweaking -- dynamic markets are BRUTAL towards my bots and seemingly trade AGAINST me -- probably my fault as a lousy programmer, regardless of my backtesting.
[2016-12-27 00:28:53] ett1 : traxor: seems like trading the bots
[2016-12-27 00:28:59] ett1 : same as trading the market
[2016-12-27 00:29:14] ett1 : if they only work 1 month thats like a position
[2016-12-27 00:29:24] ett1 : just my view of things
[2016-12-27 00:29:27] Speran49 : markets have something called market state
[2016-12-27 00:29:33] Rado : traxor: what is a dynamic market bot?
[2016-12-27 00:29:33] Speran49 : bots can work for a time in one
[2016-12-27 00:29:36] Speran49 : and then stop in the next
[2016-12-27 00:30:04] ett1 : Speran49: so you are trying to predict the state of the market, instead of price pretty much
[2016-12-27 00:30:18] MikeHunt : tradewave doesnt seem to have RSI
[2016-12-27 00:31:24] ett1 : if this bot doesnt work in sideways markets, and this bot doesnt work in volatile upwards market
[2016-12-27 00:31:27] CaptainDean : @ett1 thanks for the aps ! they got bitmex pretty cool
[2016-12-27 00:31:48] ett1 : you have to decide what you think the market is going to do, to decide which bot to turn on/off
[2016-12-27 00:31:48] traxor : You HAVE to know the state of the market in order to determine which bots to run -- that is MY experience. Sideways markets are GREAT for bots -- always chewing away at profits -- major swings screw them up and trade agains t you at times. Arb bots work great unless the order books are thin.
[2016-12-27 00:31:54] ett1 : why not just tarde direction
[2016-12-27 00:32:51] ett1 : seems like people test and find something thats worked during the last 2 months on 5 mins candles
[2016-12-27 00:33:02] ett1 : then get surprised when it stops working after 1 week
[2016-12-27 00:34:46] traxor : ett1 You're exactly correct -- it is constant management and not good sleep at night during certain markets -- I run bots -- and I'm still 50/50...
[2016-12-27 00:35:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `WINZ16`: sell 60 @ 0.001459
[2016-12-27 00:35:51] halloz : This is like the 30th liquidation on WIN today - who buys dat shit?
[2016-12-27 00:37:31] mjones : xmr new high
[2016-12-27 00:41:16] traxor : If xmd wasn't one of the 3 alts that I liked -- I'd probably short at this price
[2016-12-27 00:41:42] traxor : Actually -- maybe I will.
[2016-12-27 00:49:08] mjones : xmr highly manipulative
[2016-12-27 00:58:34] halloz : China is opening soon - this finna get interesting
[2016-12-27 00:59:08] Angelika : halloz: you realize there is no closing
[2016-12-27 00:59:40] halloz : Angelika: The banks are closed atm
[2016-12-27 01:00:18] halloz : I don't see us going any farther without new money coming in
[2016-12-27 01:00:26] mjones : should have longed more during that dip
[2016-12-27 01:01:12] ett1 : whats positive about Monero?
[2016-12-27 01:01:25] ett1 : i thought it was just anonymous transactions
[2016-12-27 01:01:27] rms : REP also way up...
[2016-12-27 01:01:41] halloz : ett1: Another pumpcoin
[2016-12-27 01:01:45] halloz : thats about it
[2016-12-27 01:01:46] ett1 : like darkcoin / dash or soemthing
[2016-12-27 01:01:54] ett1 : thats what i though
[2016-12-27 01:07:13] mjones : xmr is nice because it's older with most of its coins mined. and has only been mega pumped once
[2016-12-27 01:07:49] mjones : and there is still no solid #1 anon coin and the one that pumps the most will be the chosen one
[2016-12-27 01:19:42] l3f : >waiting for the zec pump
[2016-12-27 01:23:40] Nerve : so...where the fuuck is that dump ?
[2016-12-27 01:24:39] Nerve : what the China woke up for ?
[2016-12-27 01:25:21] micmix : Nerve: apparently we are waiting for new money tomorrow when western banks open. everyone will transfer their savings to bitcoin
[2016-12-27 01:25:31] mariomarco : lol
[2016-12-27 01:25:41] mariomarco : "everyone" "savings" "transfer"
[2016-12-27 01:25:56] Nerve : LOL
[2016-12-27 01:26:02] micmix : he-he
[2016-12-27 01:26:19] mariomarco : "IRA" "401k"
[2016-12-27 01:26:21] mariomarco : :P
[2016-12-27 01:26:28] wellerchang : AHHHHHHHHHHH
[2016-12-27 01:26:42] mariomarco : i got a full bag of """", i can keep doing this until i die
[2016-12-27 01:26:43] mariomarco : :P
[2016-12-27 01:26:56] wellerchang : waiting for green dildo
[2016-12-27 01:27:03] wellerchang : here it comes
[2016-12-27 01:27:05] Nerve : if everyone will do that tomorrow morning, then 2morrow evening we will have 1BTC = 100.000usd
[2016-12-27 01:28:05] micmix : I'm ready to sell for 10000 today if anyone interested
[2016-12-27 01:28:13] memes : shorting btc, dare I do it xD
[2016-12-27 01:28:40] wellerchang : ITS A TRAP
[2016-12-27 01:28:43] mjones : short the bottom. not even once
[2016-12-27 01:29:57] mjones : maybe we legit running out of above $900 buyers
[2016-12-27 01:30:36] Speran49 : it's heading down dingbats
[2016-12-27 01:30:41] Speran49 : i've been short for hours
[2016-12-27 01:30:43] Tr : buy the dip
[2016-12-27 01:30:51] Speran49 : :|
[2016-12-27 01:30:53] Tr : i am wiring my fiat now
[2016-12-27 01:30:56] Tr : to buy the dips!
[2016-12-27 01:31:03] wellerchang : IN B4 GREEN DILDO?!
[2016-12-27 01:31:21] mariomarco : wellerchang: inb4 820
[2016-12-27 01:31:22] mjones : short the epic bull trap
[2016-12-27 01:31:24] mjones : that was a nice bounce
[2016-12-27 01:31:36] mjones : xmr breaking up
[2016-12-27 01:31:48] Tr : anyone BUYING THE DIP?
[2016-12-27 01:31:53] Tr : lets buy the dip togethere
[2016-12-27 01:31:59] wellerchang : LETS DO IT
[2016-12-27 01:32:14] deep : I ll be buying the dip
[2016-12-27 01:32:40] memes : man I meant to get on monero but its too high now :(
[2016-12-27 01:32:46] Speran49 : 893 is your first buy level
[2016-12-27 01:34:40] narnarfromnarnia : dummp
[2016-12-27 01:34:52] wellerchang : PUMP
[2016-12-27 01:34:52] Naloxone : okcoin, just let it dump
[2016-12-27 01:34:53] Tr : nah its already going up
[2016-12-27 01:34:58] Tr : Crooked China wont let price fall
[2016-12-27 01:35:54] wellerchang : LOCK THEM UP
[2016-12-27 01:36:00] mjones : china buys it back up and throws up 600 BTC buy wall at 6450 cny
[2016-12-27 01:36:06] Speran49 : just because price doesnt fall in 5 seconds doesnt mean it wont fall
[2016-12-27 01:36:14] memes : nah guys I opened a short so its going to go up
[2016-12-27 01:36:21] Speran49 : everything right now points to continued down
[2016-12-27 01:36:26] Speran49 : patience.
[2016-12-27 01:36:30] mariomarco : Speran49: +1
[2016-12-27 01:37:01] Tr : it cant go down
[2016-12-27 01:37:14] Tr : i've been told its going to be sideways and up to 1000 in next few days
[2016-12-27 01:37:17] Tr : its been confirmed
[2016-12-27 01:37:42] wellerchang : BY satashus himself!
[2016-12-27 01:37:44] Angelika : Tr: lol
[2016-12-27 01:38:36] Tr : see already up
[2016-12-27 01:39:05] Tr : i expect another mini ladder of green candles on Huobi that looks weird as f
[2016-12-27 01:40:41] wellerchang : hes right
[2016-12-27 01:40:49] Nerve : yes
[2016-12-27 01:40:51] wellerchang : the game is rigged
[2016-12-27 01:41:13] Nerve : green candles showed up on huobi
[2016-12-27 01:42:17] Angelika : everything is rigged to take your money
[2016-12-27 01:43:01] mjones : okcoin stacked another 600 btc at 6450 cny. in before it gets sold into again
[2016-12-27 01:43:32] MikeHunt : yuan is loosing value
[2016-12-27 01:43:40] MikeHunt : might be looking at a pump
[2016-12-27 01:44:06] mjones : meh. probably already priced in
[2016-12-27 01:44:14] mjones : maybe too priced in and we need a correction dump
[2016-12-27 01:44:21] Speran49 : as long as RSI 15 min points donw and doesnt break my trendline
[2016-12-27 01:44:22] Speran49 : im staying short
[2016-12-27 01:44:38] Speran49 : short since 910
[2016-12-27 01:44:39] Speran49 : :)
[2016-12-27 01:44:53] wellerchang : we need satan to deliver us to the depths of hell
[2016-12-27 01:45:14] wellerchang : here comes the dildo
[2016-12-27 01:45:23] wellerchang : the fuck you bears dildo
[2016-12-27 01:45:29] mjones : china here we go. new ath incoming
[2016-12-27 01:47:00] wellerchang : time to make 4650 support again!
[2016-12-27 01:47:05] Angelika : you guys sound like the pump team
[2016-12-27 01:47:07] wellerchang : i mean 6500
[2016-12-27 01:47:45] wellerchang : PUMP
[2016-12-27 01:48:51] Naloxone : The sheer stupidity of this pump is unprecedented . Ridiculously low volume and blatant manipulation by the chinese. Everything looks wrong and very fishy, I think it will crash very hard eventually
[2016-12-27 01:48:57] mjones : china making bitcoin great again since 2015
[2016-12-27 01:48:58] Nerve : so @Tr was right
[2016-12-27 01:49:00] wellerchang : 10,000 yuan is coming tomorrow
[2016-12-27 01:49:27] Tr : ye crooked China wont let the fake price fall
[2016-12-27 01:49:37] mjones : everyone putting their christmas money into bitcoin this week
[2016-12-27 01:50:06] MikeHunt : wellerchang: says who?
[2016-12-27 01:50:09] Nerve : mjones: agreee
[2016-12-27 01:50:12] Tr : ye i am sure price bouncing because Joe average wired his xmas money and bough them dips
[2016-12-27 01:50:42] mjones : wall street fat cats got their bonus.
[2016-12-27 01:50:43] wellerchang : the plunge protection team said so
[2016-12-27 01:50:53] Speran49 : i see no pump
[2016-12-27 01:50:57] Speran49 : what are you guys taking about?
[2016-12-27 01:51:03] mjones : you must not be looking at a china chart
[2016-12-27 01:51:06] Speran49 : huobi has barely moved
[2016-12-27 01:51:08] narnarfromnarnia : it'll dump a bit then go up
[2016-12-27 01:51:19] narnarfromnarnia : or alot again
[2016-12-27 01:51:24] mjones : 6436 cny to 6462 cny on 0kcoin
[2016-12-27 01:51:29] mjones : and climbing
[2016-12-27 01:51:37] Speran49 : thats nothing
[2016-12-27 01:51:38] Speran49 : a blip
[2016-12-27 01:51:41] mjones : psh
[2016-12-27 01:51:45] Speran49 : you're watching on 1min or some shit
[2016-12-27 01:51:47] mjones : it's the start of something great
[2016-12-27 01:52:00] mjones : you gotta look at the 1 minute to see the start of something great
[2016-12-27 01:52:03] mjones : otherwise you'll miss it
[2016-12-27 01:52:10] Speran49 : if you watch below 15 min then you're an impatient fool
[2016-12-27 01:52:14] narnarfromnarnia : accumulation here but it will need to go down
[2016-12-27 01:52:21] narnarfromnarnia : 1m 100x
[2016-12-27 01:52:21] Speran49 : and you will miss the bigger picture everytime
[2016-12-27 01:52:23] narnarfromnarnia : bra
[2016-12-27 01:52:34] mjones : gotta look at the 1 minute to be able to enter your longs and shorts and the top and bottom
[2016-12-27 01:52:36] MikeHunt : i trade by 1hour
[2016-12-27 01:52:41] Speran49 : been there done that
[2016-12-27 01:52:45] Nerve : narnarfromnarnia: big balls is back in town ?
[2016-12-27 01:52:56] Speran49 : 15 min is great for swings. Trade 50x and use more btc
[2016-12-27 01:53:01] Speran49 : no reason to use 100x margin
[2016-12-27 01:53:01] narnarfromnarnia : Nerve: just a small amount let's see if i can get 880
[2016-12-27 01:53:21] Nerve : narnarfromnarnia: not today
[2016-12-27 01:53:27] Speran49 : i been doing this for fun for 3 days instead of playing games. This is my game. I'm up 300%
[2016-12-27 01:53:40] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.tradingview.com/x/xjGxpfs9/
[2016-12-27 01:53:49] Speran49 : but ive been trading in the normal markets for 6 years
[2016-12-27 01:53:54] cookielito : I was up 3000%