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[2016-12-24 13:17:16] anonymous789 : looks like we could be forming some kind 200 cny channel between 6400 and 6600
[2016-12-24 13:17:24] Coconuter : that bot is always there
[2016-12-24 13:17:43] immackay : BitMEX_Wally: ah, so he sold at a price of 5500? or 5336?
[2016-12-24 13:17:48] Rado : when you hit a bid the bot will adjust the next bid based on some logic
[2016-12-24 13:17:51] ett1 : did the first bids get executed, then the market saw this and removed orders (knowing there was a seller)
[2016-12-24 13:18:01] Coconuter : yes the first where executed
[2016-12-24 13:18:05] Coconuter : on the price
[2016-12-24 13:18:11] Coconuter : the others the bot automaticly removed the bids
[2016-12-24 13:18:22] BitMEX_Wally : ett1: No orders were cancelled or removed
[2016-12-24 13:18:24] immackay : Coconuter: oh, yeah, that's the way it works
[2016-12-24 13:18:28] Coconuter : and bought lower at 5550
[2016-12-24 13:18:31] ett1 : this seems normal to me
[2016-12-24 13:18:53] immackay : once the first bids get executed the bot will change to account for it
[2016-12-24 13:19:19] immackay : since it was pretty much just you and the bot, it likely just kept plunging
[2016-12-24 13:19:23] ett1 : imagine you have an order 2nd in the queue. you see some action close to your order. you can cancel it at any time
[2016-12-24 13:19:44] BitMEX_Wally : His market orders hit all these bids atomically: 1000 at 5500.2, 15000 at 5500.1, 2000 at 5500, 15000 at 5470, 10 at 5451.9, 50 at 5421, 15000 at 5412.4, 1940 at 5336.7
[2016-12-24 13:19:50] ett1 : you can pull you orders, just like somone pull theirs when they saw your orders coming
[2016-12-24 13:20:14] immackay : BitMEX_Wally: yeah, that seems like the bot was just accounting with the lower priced bids
[2016-12-24 13:20:44] immackay : that's why bots will make a spread of 1000 at the highest price, 5000 at a lower price, etc
[2016-12-24 13:20:51] immackay : so they can catch you
[2016-12-24 13:20:56] BitMEX_Wally : In order for a bot to pull orders he would have had to placed a limit order that didn't get filled and rested in the book, and then the market makers could pull bids below it..
[2016-12-24 13:21:21] Rado : correct
[2016-12-24 13:21:38] Rado : bot doesn't change orders if there is no movement on the price
[2016-12-24 13:22:19] BitMEX_Wally : BitMEX orders books match on a price then time priority, and all matching is atomic so no-one can react and pull orders
[2016-12-24 13:22:20] immackay : so a bot wouldn't pull orders on a market order?
[2016-12-24 13:23:00] immackay : so what were all the open bids at that time? is there any way to know?
[2016-12-24 13:23:08] narnarfromnarnia : for stops do you guys use Last for trigger?
[2016-12-24 13:23:16] narnarfromnarnia : say i want to set a stop at 880
[2016-12-24 13:23:19] immackay : ett1: did you email me yet
[2016-12-24 13:23:24] narnarfromnarnia : close on trigger?
[2016-12-24 13:23:44] BitMEX_Wally : immackay: No-one can pull orders until after the market order has executed
[2016-12-24 13:24:21] immackay : Ah okay so only a limit order would cause that sort of behavior?
[2016-12-24 13:24:23] Rado : narnarfromnarnia: I use last
[2016-12-24 13:24:31] micmix : The best bid was 5500 as Wally said, I bet he didn't look at the orderbook and just placed the market order
[2016-12-24 13:24:50] immackay : I'm just wondering what the orderbook was at the time
[2016-12-24 13:24:56] BitMEX_Wally : immackay: You can look at the /quote API end point for the historical best bid. We do not publish historical depth but I have the data from the raw orders people submit
[2016-12-24 13:25:11] immackay : BitMEX_Wally: I'm far too lazy to do that
[2016-12-24 13:25:18] Rado : immackay: lol
[2016-12-24 13:25:22] Rado : lets move on
[2016-12-24 13:25:27] Rado : we all feel for his loss
[2016-12-24 13:27:35] anonymous789 : https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
[2016-12-24 13:27:38] anonymous789 : buyers loading up
[2016-12-24 13:41:16] m3s : much sideways
[2016-12-24 13:41:47] anonymous789 : sideways could be a good thing
[2016-12-24 13:42:23] crmun : BitMEX_Sam: are you here?
[2016-12-24 13:42:31] ett1 : the longer it goes sideways the bigger it moves when it does
[2016-12-24 13:43:11] anonymous789 : looks like a 15-20 dollar channel if it goes back up now
[2016-12-24 13:55:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 3000 @ 6351.2
[2016-12-24 13:57:15] shery : seems like btc wanna gow lower
[2016-12-24 13:58:15] Rado : shery: It just seem that way
[2016-12-24 13:58:22] Rado : ;-)
[2016-12-24 13:58:42] shery : Rado: it did dumped in past few hours lol
[2016-12-24 13:58:56] Rado : true
[2016-12-24 13:58:58] anonymous789 : 10pm in china
[2016-12-24 13:59:04] Rado : look at a little bigger picture
[2016-12-24 13:59:35] Rado : the correction is small compared to how much it went up
[2016-12-24 13:59:52] Rado : anonymous789: which side are you trading now?
[2016-12-24 14:00:01] anonymous789 : long
[2016-12-24 14:00:05] Rado : cool
[2016-12-24 14:00:10] anonymous789 : you?
[2016-12-24 14:00:29] Rado : I have some March contracts
[2016-12-24 14:00:39] Rado : just started my new MM bot
[2016-12-24 14:00:43] Rado : yesterday
[2016-12-24 14:00:47] Rado : wish me luck :-)
[2016-12-24 14:00:53] anonymous789 : cool good luck
[2016-12-24 14:00:56] anonymous789 : long?
[2016-12-24 14:01:05] Rado : on MArch yes
[2016-12-24 14:01:08] anonymous789 : cool
[2016-12-24 14:01:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 5000 @ 6343.3
[2016-12-24 14:01:36] Rado : look at funding
[2016-12-24 14:01:46] aaaaa : yeah
[2016-12-24 14:01:47] Rado : 0.21 % and then next period -0.11
[2016-12-24 14:01:59] aaaaa : next period is streching
[2016-12-24 14:02:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2300 @ 888.36
[2016-12-24 14:02:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 888.31
[2016-12-24 14:03:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 13450 @ 887.38
[2016-12-24 14:03:02] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2016-12-24 14:03:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 30000 @ 885.80
[2016-12-24 14:03:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 58008 @ 886.05 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-24 14:03:22] immackay : lmao
[2016-12-24 14:03:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1060 @ 882.73
[2016-12-24 14:04:21] medpex : uhh
[2016-12-24 14:04:35] ett1 : bearstamp ruins it again
[2016-12-24 14:05:00] ett1 : i think bitmex is leading this bull run if it wont shake
[2016-12-24 14:05:55] rapidtrades : CRASH
[2016-12-24 14:05:57] rapidtrades : CRASHHH
[2016-12-24 14:06:20] rapidtrades : IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD
[2016-12-24 14:06:44] arbitrage001 : wtf
[2016-12-24 14:06:52] arbitrage001 : we were so close to 1000
[2016-12-24 14:06:55] immackay : rapidtrades: I missed you
[2016-12-24 14:07:00] anonymous789 : bounce
[2016-12-24 14:07:13] m3s : ow shit, buy the dip
[2016-12-24 14:07:30] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: how low ya reckon mate?
[2016-12-24 14:07:59] immackay : BTCDJS: shhh, bitcoin never retraces
[2016-12-24 14:08:07] rapidtrades : $100 TODAY
[2016-12-24 14:08:18] Rado : yeah it looks really bad from $780 to $880
[2016-12-24 14:08:33] immackay : rapidtrades: that's the spirit
[2016-12-24 14:08:36] Rado : rapidtrades: none sense
[2016-12-24 14:08:47] Rado : talking out of your ass
[2016-12-24 14:08:58] shery : dump is rel get out guys
[2016-12-24 14:09:04] immackay : Rado: have you two not met?
[2016-12-24 14:09:16] rapidtrades : I meant we'll dump to $100
[2016-12-24 14:09:20] rapidtrades : TODAY
[2016-12-24 14:09:26] mariomarco : shakeout #29080
[2016-12-24 14:09:27] Rado : not yet
[2016-12-24 14:10:02] immackay : Rado: @rapidtrades takes "trollbox" to heart
[2016-12-24 14:10:17] Rado : immackay: oh you mean met on the chat
[2016-12-24 14:10:24] Rado : yes we know each other
[2016-12-24 14:10:34] immackay : rapidtrades: did you short yesterday?
[2016-12-24 14:10:34] Rado : I haven't meet him in person yet :-)
[2016-12-24 14:10:51] immackay : good on you if you did
[2016-12-24 14:10:58] immackay : looks like this baby is riding down for a while
[2016-12-24 14:11:20] crmun : BitMEX_Wally: can i block any withdrawals from my account? i had some suspicious activity on my phone today
[2016-12-24 14:11:30] Rado : every dump it's just buying opportunity
[2016-12-24 14:11:45] gdog : i got some at the low
[2016-12-24 14:11:56] Rado : crmun: you have to approve each withdrawal
[2016-12-24 14:12:04] Rado : by eamail
[2016-12-24 14:12:13] crmun : by email?
[2016-12-24 14:12:17] crmun : for sure?
[2016-12-24 14:12:19] Rado : you have lots of time to react since the withdrawal is only once per day
[2016-12-24 14:12:25] Rado : I love this future
[2016-12-24 14:12:29] Rado : yes 100%
[2016-12-24 14:12:30] ett1 : ye got 880.01 filled :) @gdog
[2016-12-24 14:12:48] mariomarco : ett1: gj bro
[2016-12-24 14:12:48] rapidtrades : thats not thwelow
[2016-12-24 14:12:51] paniktrade : zhit guys buy the dip before okcoin does
[2016-12-24 14:12:51] crmun : i know but its xmas so i will spend lot of time afk
[2016-12-24 14:13:04] Rado : rapidtrades: what is the low?
[2016-12-24 14:13:06] Rado : educate us
[2016-12-24 14:13:25] ett1 : hit me
[2016-12-24 14:13:35] Rado : crmun: if they hacked your BitMEX accoutn and your email then you are in trouble
[2016-12-24 14:13:45] rapidtrades : < 740
[2016-12-24 14:14:04] Rado : rapidtrades: I will bet you 1 BTC that it will not go there
[2016-12-24 14:14:05] crmun : Rado: you will never know until it is done
[2016-12-24 14:14:30] Rado : crmun: do you have 2FA on your account?
[2016-12-24 14:14:45] immackay : if it doesn't jump within two hours I'd say it's going to 850ish territory
[2016-12-24 14:14:46] crmun : yes. on fkn phone
[2016-12-24 14:15:07] Rado : immackay: 850 seems reasonable
[2016-12-24 14:15:24] rapidtrades : this is the last dip buying b4 doom
[2016-12-24 14:15:32] rapidtrades : buyers will be overwhelmed soon
[2016-12-24 14:16:14] immackay : lowest it can go is 800 barring any serious whales selling off but I'd say 830 is a reasonable minimum
[2016-12-24 14:16:20] Rado : rapidtrades: what happened with you
[2016-12-24 14:16:33] Rado : became more negative than ususal
[2016-12-24 14:16:34] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-24 14:16:52] ett1 : Rado: he just fallows whatever the last 4hr is doing
[2016-12-24 14:16:57] ett1 : and trolls the opposite
[2016-12-24 14:16:59] immackay : but yeah 850 is my bet, then back up to 880
[2016-12-24 14:18:10] immackay : then a slow decline to between 840-860 by jan 6
[2016-12-24 14:18:38] rapidtrades : there is no slow anymore, vol is too high
[2016-12-24 14:18:39] shery : I think we will go lower
[2016-12-24 14:18:42] Rado : immackay: or a slow climb to $1000
[2016-12-24 14:18:49] shery : 870 here
[2016-12-24 14:18:51] rapidtrades : either 100 up or dwon
[2016-12-24 14:19:01] Rado : rapidtrades: there you go
[2016-12-24 14:19:08] ett1 : bounce to 870 then 940
[2016-12-24 14:19:12] ett1 : then 900 then 1000
[2016-12-24 14:19:13] Rado : now you are making more sense
[2016-12-24 14:19:14] immackay : rapidtrades: doesn't higher volume make the price more stable
[2016-12-24 14:19:15] ett1 : then ATH
[2016-12-24 14:19:41] ett1 : bitmex holding better than anyone
[2016-12-24 14:20:46] rapidtrades : immackay: ceteris paribus , right niw no
[2016-12-24 14:21:46] shery : I am out for a while
[2016-12-24 14:22:09] immackay : rapidtrades: I suppose yeah
[2016-12-24 14:36:05] anonymous789 : pretty solid engulfing candle on the 15min
[2016-12-24 14:36:11] anonymous789 : cny
[2016-12-24 14:36:49] shery : anonymous789: no volume
[2016-12-24 14:37:02] anonymous789 : this is true
[2016-12-24 14:37:20] ett1 : anonymous789: higher low if it doesnt break lower
[2016-12-24 14:37:25] anonymous789 : actually the englufing candle had higher volume
[2016-12-24 14:37:31] anonymous789 : the small dip right now has no volume
[2016-12-24 14:37:58] anonymous789 : 15min of course
[2016-12-24 14:38:05] anonymous789 : hourly is not much volume either way
[2016-12-24 14:38:22] anonymous789 : ett1: indeed
[2016-12-24 14:38:29] anonymous789 : 880 seems pretty crucial
[2016-12-24 14:38:30] shery : anonymous789: There is no volume from start
[2016-12-24 14:38:41] shery : On todays drop
[2016-12-24 14:39:00] shery : If 880 is broken it will go way lwer
[2016-12-24 14:39:08] anonymous789 : shery: yeah not much volume today at all
[2016-12-24 14:39:12] anonymous789 : be worse tomorrrow i guess
[2016-12-24 14:39:52] ett1 : anonymous789: on the 30min its a hammer
[2016-12-24 14:39:58] ett1 : the 2 15min candles
[2016-12-24 14:40:11] ett1 : reversal pattern esp with the trend
[2016-12-24 14:40:28] ett1 : i think a shakeout of 990 & 890s
[2016-12-24 14:40:50] ett1 : bitmex maybe leading the move its got the highest volu
[2016-12-24 14:41:09] anonymous789 : ett1: let's see what happens at the SMA on the bollinger bands
[2016-12-24 14:44:03] JuriFX : It's quite concerning that price even came back to retest almost the extreme (deep retrace) of that higher low (874). A strong trend with bulls wouldn't have let the bears take it so far... We'll see
[2016-12-24 14:44:49] JuriFX : There was some buying at 888 but it was short lived
[2016-12-24 14:45:09] JuriFX : now last chance for bulls to defend it
[2016-12-24 14:46:34] JuriFX : if 874 breaks then there's nothing to stop them till 864
[2016-12-24 14:48:05] ett1 : looks like strength to me
[2016-12-24 14:48:17] ett1 : 890 resistance
[2016-12-24 14:48:23] shery : Still no vlume in buying
[2016-12-24 14:48:46] anonymous789 : breaking a little minor downtrend line on 15min cny
[2016-12-24 14:49:13] anonymous789 : approaching that 15min cny SMA too
[2016-12-24 14:49:41] ett1 : ye im watching the SMA too
[2016-12-24 14:49:50] anonymous789 : needs to get on the other side of that SMA
[2016-12-24 14:49:53] ett1 : and this hourly candle forms
[2016-12-24 14:50:30] ett1 : but volatility has picked up i think if theres is a move back above 900 we are going to 1k
[2016-12-24 14:50:43] ett1 : probably not if this doesnt hold
[2016-12-24 14:50:57] anonymous789 : 6600 is going to be major resistance now i think
[2016-12-24 14:50:57] ett1 : a bit too much excitement about the holiday
[2016-12-24 14:54:50] anonymous789 : USD is struggling much more to go higher in value than the cny
[2016-12-24 14:55:26] anonymous789 : bearstamp being stupid
[2016-12-24 14:57:06] l3f : fakeout after fakeout
[2016-12-24 14:57:08] l3f : are we learning yet?
[2016-12-24 14:57:32] shery : l3f: Big dump???
[2016-12-24 14:57:47] ett1 : nobody ever leanrs from history. always repeating the same mistakes
[2016-12-24 14:58:00] gdog : i thinking same or higher for a bit
[2016-12-24 14:58:02] l3f : shery: i will explain this one more time
[2016-12-24 14:58:13] l3f : if you still don't get it then you can't be helped
[2016-12-24 14:58:23] l3f : weak hands needs to be shaken out
[2016-12-24 14:58:35] l3f : it looks like it's going down
[2016-12-24 14:58:40] l3f : whales will step on your balls
[2016-12-24 14:58:41] ett1 : things dont go up in a straight line
[2016-12-24 14:58:45] ett1 : they zig zag
[2016-12-24 14:58:53] l3f : if you cry, you shake, you fear, you dump
[2016-12-24 14:58:56] l3f : they buy the dip
[2016-12-24 14:58:59] l3f : you're out
[2016-12-24 14:59:22] l3f : If it is not clear to you why this happens
[2016-12-24 14:59:28] l3f : I'm not going to explain further
[2016-12-24 15:00:11] shery : l3f: ah so thats what you wann say
[2016-12-24 15:01:04] l3f : when they exit, they can exit during pumps
[2016-12-24 15:01:13] l3f : they can exit with a huge dump (so big that you won't see it coming)
[2016-12-24 15:01:20] l3f : certainly not 1 usd per minute slow
[2016-12-24 15:01:31] l3f : they don't pull this slow shit
[2016-12-24 15:01:44] l3f : to exit their massive positions
[2016-12-24 15:01:49] l3f : there's mo volume in these dumps
[2016-12-24 15:01:49] shery : l3f: Nice explanation
[2016-12-24 15:01:53] l3f : no*
[2016-12-24 15:02:15] l3f : but you know
[2016-12-24 15:02:25] l3f : I'm not perfect and my interpetation may be fucked
[2016-12-24 15:02:37] l3f : sleger might dump just to pop a cap in my ass
[2016-12-24 15:02:37] shery : l3f: so what you say when we are heading back above 900 ?
[2016-12-24 15:02:44] l3f : shery: give it another 4 hours
[2016-12-24 15:03:38] l3f : western whale pumped too early, china whale wasn't ready yet, so he's doing this to get back in
[2016-12-24 15:06:21] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/xvDD5FiZ/
[2016-12-24 15:06:42] aethlios : yan premium steadily up, china get's in the game.
[2016-12-24 15:07:17] l3f : aethlios: I pray to fucking god that I'm right
[2016-12-24 15:07:27] l3f : based jesus
[2016-12-24 15:07:34] l3f : haha
[2016-12-24 15:07:45] ett1 : yes i want my yacht
[2016-12-24 15:08:01] l3f : ett1: sleger's on his seventh now
[2016-12-24 15:08:40] aethlios : l3f: i agree with you above analysis
[2016-12-24 15:08:42] anonymous789 : nice breakout above the SMA on the 15min
[2016-12-24 15:09:39] Angelika : l3f: it's not about being right all the time. It's more about managing risk and position size
[2016-12-24 15:09:43] Angelika : profits will come
[2016-12-24 15:10:19] l3f : Angelika: Hi Rado, of course
[2016-12-24 15:10:40] ett1 : its about patence, timing & going balls to the wall with leverage when at a point well never go bac below
[2016-12-24 15:10:52] ett1 : then adding more and more with profits
[2016-12-24 15:10:54] aethlios : Angelika: in other words managing fear and greed, so it is a road to self improvement. trading makes you a better person.
[2016-12-24 15:11:08] abz : aethlios: on your chart volumes are declining and there is a bearish MFI divergence
[2016-12-24 15:11:16] l3f : aethlios: it's enabling my gambling addiction
[2016-12-24 15:11:22] ett1 : take care of your greed & the fear takes care of itself
[2016-12-24 15:11:34] l3f : for ya TA fucks, divergence on bitstamp hourly graph
[2016-12-24 15:11:34] shery : here comes the volume
[2016-12-24 15:11:36] l3f : use stoch
[2016-12-24 15:11:42] ett1 : unshaking confidence is what you need
[2016-12-24 15:11:57] ett1 : when youve got a 90% probability wi
[2016-12-24 15:13:42] aethlios : abz: volume is a problem in btc, I don't use chinese exchanges because of fake volume. I use stamp, stamp was hacked so after hack volumes went down, also an exchange could lose market share and lose volume. Another thong is that because btc are fixed supply, volume in btc could go down as price goes up, maybe we should use volume in usd.
[2016-12-24 15:15:24] immackay : are the bulls back yet
[2016-12-24 15:15:31] abz : Agree about volume. Then look at A/D vs. price action divergence.
[2016-12-24 15:15:40] gdog : you guys see what huobi did
[2016-12-24 15:17:52] abz : Lets wait for MACD div on your chart as a confirmation of ABC correction after wave 5.
[2016-12-24 15:18:19] Angelika : gdog: what?
[2016-12-24 15:18:38] l3f : abz: divergence readings are not accurate on hourly charts anyway
[2016-12-24 15:18:45] l3f : I don't buy the waves stuff
[2016-12-24 15:19:02] Angelika : l3f: I don't like waves at all
[2016-12-24 15:19:06] gdog : they jumped about 40 yaun
[2016-12-24 15:19:08] Angelika : they only adjust them after the fact
[2016-12-24 15:19:14] l3f : Angelika: I check the technique on wikipedia first
[2016-12-24 15:19:16] l3f : if it says no effect
[2016-12-24 15:19:20] l3f : like fib retracements
[2016-12-24 15:19:23] l3f : then I don't buy it
[2016-12-24 15:19:40] abz : OK. Just find your chart very interesting indicator of chinese whales move :)
[2016-12-24 15:20:22] Angelika : gdog: Huobi seems inline with the other Chinese exchanges
[2016-12-24 15:20:35] l3f : this is my outlet for my gambling addiction btw
[2016-12-24 15:20:49] l3f : bitmex casino and report
[2016-12-24 15:20:53] l3f : resort*
[2016-12-24 15:21:11] immackay : waiting for bearstamp
[2016-12-24 15:21:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 1000 @ 897.98
[2016-12-24 15:29:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 13000 @ 895.92
[2016-12-24 15:29:36] halloz : lolz
[2016-12-24 15:29:48] cryptomad : _l_
[2016-12-24 15:29:56] cryptomad : _l_
[2016-12-24 15:30:20] ett1 : l3f: its like poker. sounds like your one of the smarter guys at the table
[2016-12-24 15:30:32] ett1 : being early will always help in btc
[2016-12-24 15:31:30] shery : Nice push waiting for china to move
[2016-12-24 15:32:47] aethlios : btc world is the pure speculation game, like pre 1933 wall street. no regulation, any manipulation allowed, and just pure technical analysis and human psychology, all these 24/7/365.
[2016-12-24 15:33:51] ett1 : perfect
[2016-12-24 15:35:08] MikeHunt : the way the market should be
[2016-12-24 15:36:06] l3f : shery: well?
[2016-12-24 15:36:17] l3f : it's funny because you ask me when X price will hot
[2016-12-24 15:36:18] l3f : hit*
[2016-12-24 15:36:20] l3f : it does
[2016-12-24 15:36:26] l3f : but did you buy the dip?
[2016-12-24 15:36:30] ett1 : they government shouldnt allow bitmex to opperate with 100x leverage. its a hazard to bitcoiin, our family & personal financies & society at large
[2016-12-24 15:36:49] ett1 : we are a bunch of no good speculators offering nothing of value
[2016-12-24 15:38:12] aethlios : we are price discovery dudes.
[2016-12-24 15:38:39] shery : l3f: i got in at 890 stil thanks your words increased my confidence gain
[2016-12-24 15:38:44] l3f : they should close the market so tired traders don't make bad decisions
[2016-12-24 15:38:50] MikeHunt : still too late to buy the dip? lol
[2016-12-24 15:38:53] l3f : very nice
[2016-12-24 15:38:54] ett1 : we are stealing wealth from future generations
[2016-12-24 15:38:55] MikeHunt : i just got up
[2016-12-24 15:39:21] gdog : buy buy buy
[2016-12-24 15:39:38] ett1 : were above the SMA
[2016-12-24 15:39:48] l3f : lol I snagged 30k @ 883 when everyone and their mom were panic selling
[2016-12-24 15:39:52] ett1 : next stop 900
[2016-12-24 15:40:06] ett1 : nice im way overleveraged
[2016-12-24 15:40:12] l3f : Fuck this manipulated market
[2016-12-24 15:40:19] halloz : okc wants down
[2016-12-24 15:40:25] ett1 : i got a sneakky 800.01 & 882 fils
[2016-12-24 15:40:51] MikeHunt : reckon fontas is behind the pump?
[2016-12-24 15:40:53] aethlios : i think this dip is the last we should risk to buy, next dip (from above 1000) will start as a dip and will become a dump to 900.
[2016-12-24 15:41:29] l3f : aethlios: I hope by then I won't care about dips anymore
[2016-12-24 15:41:32] ett1 : i think it will be an up day today
[2016-12-24 15:41:37] halloz : Just BTFD
[2016-12-24 15:41:47] ett1 : l3f: lol ye if it stays above 850 great
[2016-12-24 15:41:58] MikeHunt : this is known as the dead cat bounce iirc
[2016-12-24 15:42:13] MikeHunt : after peak in cycle, comes back up for second time, then down we go
[2016-12-24 15:42:13] ett1 : ill probably stop out if ti turns around but hoping for a much bigger move
[2016-12-24 15:42:39] l3f : yeah that's right
[2016-12-24 15:42:43] l3f : this could be the dead cat bounce
[2016-12-24 15:43:10] ett1 : just keep an eye on indicators like HH HL, trendlines, SMA
[2016-12-24 15:43:21] ett1 : they keep giving me confidence
[2016-12-24 15:43:44] ett1 : just allow for the 5% or 10% (maybe bigger) revounds
[2016-12-24 15:43:55] ett1 : dont get shaken ou early
[2016-12-24 15:44:14] l3f : so the problem right now
[2016-12-24 15:44:20] l3f : is that it looks like a H&S is forming
[2016-12-24 15:44:26] l3f : at least on CNY
[2016-12-24 15:44:37] l3f : now, to be the contrarian, once the 3rd dip forms
[2016-12-24 15:44:40] ett1 : screw HS pattern i never pay attention to those
[2016-12-24 15:44:44] l3f : shorts will lose their shit
[2016-12-24 15:44:47] ett1 : flags and triangles are continuation
[2016-12-24 15:44:51] l3f : and if I was a whale I'd pump during that
[2016-12-24 15:44:51] halloz : HS never works in bitcoin
[2016-12-24 15:44:53] ett1 : those are pretty consistent
[2016-12-24 15:45:04] l3f : too many people know double tops, HS etc
[2016-12-24 15:45:18] l3f : and others just do the opposite to fuck the newbie traders up
[2016-12-24 15:45:24] MikeHunt : i got the tops right on the last few mega cycles
[2016-12-24 15:45:26] ett1 : i dont usually trade 15min lol maybe
[2016-12-24 15:45:30] MikeHunt : i hope im wrong thou i want to see 1k
[2016-12-24 15:45:33] l3f : hourly chart
[2016-12-24 15:47:13] ett1 : ye i think thats the better one to look at, ususually im on hourlys but might zoom in on 4h. cant help zooming in on 15me right now
[2016-12-24 15:48:27] Nerve : Finaly GREEN ?
[2016-12-24 15:48:41] l3f : stoch says the last dump was over sold
[2016-12-24 15:48:56] l3f : + divergence with a cross (low accuracy)
[2016-12-24 15:49:20] shery : 6400 should hold
[2016-12-24 15:49:33] anonymous789 : Higher low on 4hr
[2016-12-24 15:49:56] l3f : it's like chess except your opponent has much more money and can teleport their pieces around
[2016-12-24 15:51:25] MikeHunt : if it only goes to 6500 then dips again i think that indicates a slide
[2016-12-24 15:55:10] anonymous789 : Let's go back above 900 at least
[2016-12-24 15:56:04] shery : anonymous789: lets go
[2016-12-24 15:57:20] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/QZX2m058/ have we just started????
[2016-12-24 15:58:31] mariomarco : shake out #328
[2016-12-24 15:58:34] m3s : sure thing lol
[2016-12-24 15:59:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 893.60
[2016-12-24 16:00:06] shery : This one will go deeper
[2016-12-24 16:00:42] ett1 : aethlios: that would be great
[2016-12-24 16:00:44] anonymous789 : it certainly wants to go lower
[2016-12-24 16:01:08] tommygunn : looks like all the charts and rules are out the window
[2016-12-24 16:02:18] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/VuaJfuMC/ better edition
[2016-12-24 16:02:25] anonymous789 : hourly shooting star?
[2016-12-24 16:02:54] shery : so 860 today??
[2016-12-24 16:03:07] tommygunn : nice to see my super low orders hit and it even dropped below that, wild times i have missed
[2016-12-24 16:17:49] tommygunn : http://imgur.com/a/mJG05
[2016-12-24 16:21:46] tommygunn : Volume seems quite low on that dip, Must mean everyone is celebrating Christmas.
[2016-12-24 16:22:21] mariomarco : eggnog hitting in the head :P
[2016-12-24 16:23:58] tommygunn : I have a few hours to go, trying to position so I can just forget trading thru weekend
[2016-12-24 16:26:35] l3f : tommygunn: what usually happens is that they just put a big sell wall at price X and force the price down
[2016-12-24 16:26:55] l3f : just sandwich it while the price is low
[2016-12-24 16:27:00] l3f : so we get all these retarded dumps right now
[2016-12-24 16:27:08] l3f : while the volume*
[2016-12-24 16:30:07] m3s : l3f: so what do you think will happen during the weekend ? sideways ?
[2016-12-24 16:30:16] tommygunn : Fully expected and am glad as we need a healthy market for price, to bad its the weekend and christmas on top so low vol drops can overshoot.
[2016-12-24 16:30:31] l3f : sideways until mr splashy pants recouped his investment
[2016-12-24 16:30:43] tommygunn : I have very wide buys..................................
[2016-12-24 16:31:23] l3f : isn't it suspicious that the dumps all happen in this time
[2016-12-24 16:31:28] l3f : +-4 hours
[2016-12-24 16:31:40] tommygunn : everything points to 1200 until it does not
[2016-12-24 16:33:02] tommygunn : Careful not to over-leverage and don't fight the trend
[2016-12-24 16:35:05] mjones : when i hit 88x leverage i'm gonna see some serious shit
[2016-12-24 16:35:28] mjones : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFT7hNhop7w
[2016-12-24 16:35:28] tommygunn : trend http://i.imgur.com/XIQpiVt.png
[2016-12-24 16:36:05] l3f : tommygunn: nah that trend broke already
[2016-12-24 16:36:07] mjones : nice 8 hour old screen shot
[2016-12-24 16:36:23] tommygunn : has it will check
[2016-12-24 16:36:31] tommygunn : just fot on
[2016-12-24 16:36:35] tommygunn : got
[2016-12-24 16:36:40] mjones : check time stamps yo
[2016-12-24 16:38:26] mjones : china just chopping around in no mans land
[2016-12-24 16:52:40] tommygunn : so we have thanks for the heads up, sold half at 15 dollar loss and moved rest to xbt17
[2016-12-24 17:08:07] yogiedpratama : how to deposit with dollar?
[2016-12-24 17:08:19] Angelika : yogiedpratama: you can't
[2016-12-24 17:08:20] yogiedpratama : sorry noob question
[2016-12-24 17:08:25] Angelika : it's a BTC only exchange
[2016-12-24 17:08:42] yogiedpratama : do you have recommendation skrill to btc?
[2016-12-24 17:08:47] yogiedpratama : or neteller to btc?
[2016-12-24 17:08:57] yogiedpratama : which site to buy btc?
[2016-12-24 17:09:16] yogiedpratama : I'm new with this btc thing
[2016-12-24 17:10:10] Headroom : why can't we use bitmex api with cryptowatch ?
[2016-12-24 17:11:27] Headroom : yogiedpratama: bitgit could be a good start
[2016-12-24 17:11:33] anonymous789 : i think we're gonna get a christmas dump if we don't get past 900
[2016-12-24 17:11:50] halloz : I just took the largest ? ever. Merry Christmas to me.
[2016-12-24 17:20:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1200 @ 896.68
[2016-12-24 17:37:28] cryptomad : 900 @ bitfinex
[2016-12-24 17:38:30] aroraprav : 901 @ ok
[2016-12-24 17:38:54] cryptomad : @aroraprav (y)
[2016-12-24 17:40:02] aroraprav : cryptomad: what u feel?
[2016-12-24 17:40:43] cryptomad : aroraprav: 899
[2016-12-24 17:42:36] javierstone : blast off in a few hours
[2016-12-24 17:44:44] odieoh : Hard for much of a blastoff at this point imo- long holiday weekend in much of the world = no new inflow of fiat into the system for a few days, and hard to imagine that there is someone sitting on the sidelines with a large pile of fiat (or altcoins) who is going to decide that NOW is the time to get in
[2016-12-24 17:45:43] javierstone : odieoh: hard to believe we'd be at 900 on xmas eve
[2016-12-24 17:46:03] odieoh : what would be more believable?
[2016-12-24 17:46:32] javierstone : tet offensive
[2016-12-24 17:46:36] odieoh : or you just mean "who would have thought" a few days ago?
[2016-12-24 17:46:49] javierstone : yes
[2016-12-24 17:46:58] odieoh : gotcha, yeah i agree
[2016-12-24 17:47:29] javierstone : i think chinese exchanges got spooked at the spread yesterday
[2016-12-24 17:47:57] javierstone : also i think the exchanges themseleves are worried about waht will happen if there's a huge increase in btc value
[2016-12-24 17:49:37] imapotato : So closing the long last night actually worked. Getting back in now.
[2016-12-24 17:50:28] odieoh : You're just a goddamned potato, what do you know?
[2016-12-24 17:50:48] odieoh : :)
[2016-12-24 17:53:03] javierstone : wtf there's now a $30 spread between bitstamp and chian
[2016-12-24 17:54:49] mjones : china is out of control
[2016-12-24 17:55:01] mjones : someone transferred an unlimited amount of money to the exchanges
[2016-12-24 17:55:04] aroraprav : javierstone: here too
[2016-12-24 17:55:19] odieoh : wow an unlimited amount
[2016-12-24 17:55:29] odieoh : that's no longer an amount
[2016-12-24 17:56:06] MikeHunt : its an unlimited amount
[2016-12-24 17:57:53] odieoh : I think that's kind of undefined
[2016-12-24 17:58:17] mjones : the price will be 8000 CNY and someone will have enough money to throw up a 2000 BTC buy wall at the top
[2016-12-24 17:58:47] odieoh : Someone will have the money, but will they have the cajones?
[2016-12-24 17:59:22] zanza : Bitcoin on sale guys, last chance to load up cheap
[2016-12-24 18:05:34] javierstone : mjones: satoshi?
[2016-12-24 18:11:33] mjones : unlimited dumping would be satoshi
[2016-12-24 18:23:33] mariomarco : not enough volume
[2016-12-24 18:38:51] javierstone : god mutherfucing holidays
[2016-12-24 18:40:58] mariomarco : here we go again
[2016-12-24 18:41:04] mariomarco : reee
[2016-12-24 18:43:32] javierstone : mariomarco: up or down?
[2016-12-24 18:43:43] aroraprav : down
[2016-12-24 18:43:58] javierstone : nope
[2016-12-24 18:59:38] ett1 : sideways at 900 then up
[2016-12-24 19:03:44] Angelika : the direction is still up since a lot of people want to get in on the action and there is preasure up
[2016-12-24 19:03:46] javierstone : nah we'll have anoher leg up by EOD
[2016-12-24 19:04:17] ett1 : i think well have a daily green candle
[2016-12-24 19:10:58] rullwull : on weekly the next fibo is 966
[2016-12-24 19:13:32] gdog : anyone thinking we could get to 1000 today?
[2016-12-24 19:14:05] ett1 : probably tommorow
[2016-12-24 19:14:08] ett1 : todays kinda optimistic
[2016-12-24 19:14:14] ett1 : lets see 900 ofrst
[2016-12-24 19:14:37] gdog : today i'm hoping for 930's+
[2016-12-24 19:14:49] rullwull : after 966 there
[2016-12-24 19:15:08] rullwull : the correction can happen to previous weekly fibo at 795
[2016-12-24 19:17:13] rullwull : if we pass 966 the next fibo on weekly are 1068, 1124 and 1184
[2016-12-24 19:18:00] ett1 : rullwull: got a chart?
[2016-12-24 19:18:55] imapotato : 950 today on Western exchanges
[2016-12-24 19:20:58] rullwull : ett1: sure, but don't have a possibility to post it right now
[2016-12-24 19:21:37] ett1 : where did you draw it from , the 1200 peak to where
[2016-12-24 19:21:39] imapotato : Doubling my long now. You would all be wise to join me.
[2016-12-24 19:22:16] Rado : imapotato: thanks for the advice
[2016-12-24 19:22:27] Rado : I don't know what I would have done if it wasn't for you
[2016-12-24 19:22:53] imapotato : ;P
[2016-12-24 19:22:53] ett1 : ive already doubled my doubled, doubled long
[2016-12-24 19:23:22] imapotato : Doubling complete
[2016-12-24 19:23:43] ett1 : i tried entering 200x leverahe hoping there would be a bug in the system and it would allow me
[2016-12-24 19:23:51] aroraprav : imapotato: I love potato
[2016-12-24 19:23:53] aroraprav : but mashed
[2016-12-24 19:24:06] ett1 : i took out a bank loan, so ive got leverage on my leverage
[2016-12-24 19:24:21] Rado : ett1: funny
[2016-12-24 19:24:51] imapotato : I love lamp
[2016-12-24 19:25:01] cryptomad : aroraprav: Sweet potatos.. :P
[2016-12-24 19:25:10] imapotato : Pawn your house pawn your wife
[2016-12-24 19:25:19] imapotato : You need funds for the margin long
[2016-12-24 19:25:26] imapotato : Sweet potato is good L
[2016-12-24 19:25:41] aroraprav : yeah sweet potato
[2016-12-24 19:26:01] cryptomad : aroraprav: good to health
[2016-12-24 19:26:19] aroraprav : cryptomad: yeah
[2016-12-24 19:27:16] aroraprav : imapotato: Pamp it potato you are good for health
[2016-12-24 19:27:33] cryptomad : aroraprav: +1
[2016-12-24 19:29:52] cryptomad : imapotato: Go dug your self into some good soils you can be good for health.
[2016-12-24 19:30:34] aroraprav : merry trolling christmas
[2016-12-24 19:30:44] cryptomad : **bold** YEAH..
[2016-12-24 19:31:14] mjones : awe man. anyone got any more of those dips
[2016-12-24 19:31:52] cryptomad : mjones: **short** **short**
[2016-12-24 19:32:20] cryptomad : _its coming to 892.20_
[2016-12-24 19:32:30] aroraprav : **christmas dips**
[2016-12-24 19:32:30] mjones : 150 cny away from new high
[2016-12-24 19:38:43] aroraprav : pamp it
[2016-12-24 19:38:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20 @ 901.20
[2016-12-24 19:39:50] mjones : top of dead cat bounce. time to short
[2016-12-24 19:42:44] imapotato : Shorts getting liquidated. Encourages you to short. Lol.
[2016-12-24 19:43:13] aroraprav : imapotato: pamp it potato mash them
[2016-12-24 19:43:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 700 @ 0.008040
[2016-12-24 19:44:23] aroraprav : who longed ETH hahaha
[2016-12-24 19:45:25] imapotato : Get long BTC or go home.
[2016-12-24 19:47:35] imapotato : Even BitPay is about to go above 900
[2016-12-24 19:50:54] ett1 : but not bearstamp
[2016-12-24 19:51:26] memes : idk bro, btc might be a bigt oversold