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[2016-12-24 12:35:15] narnarfromnarnia : on both sides
[2016-12-24 12:35:22] mariomarco : yea
[2016-12-24 12:35:30] narnarfromnarnia : mess with the walls i guess
[2016-12-24 12:35:33] narnarfromnarnia : or show support
[2016-12-24 12:35:34] narnarfromnarnia : i hope
[2016-12-24 12:36:45] narnarfromnarnia : wild
[2016-12-24 12:37:08] Nerve : https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
[2016-12-24 12:37:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 100 @ 0.008280
[2016-12-24 12:37:44] anonymous789 : quite annoying really, all this effort to break 900 and then it starts messing around
[2016-12-24 12:37:49] anonymous789 : didn't even make a decent attempt at 1k
[2016-12-24 12:38:10] m3s : we are talking 10% moves in a day, give it some time :D
[2016-12-24 12:38:12] ett1 : there will be pain
[2016-12-24 12:38:35] Nerve : ett1: there is already
[2016-12-24 12:38:51] immackay : remember guys
[2016-12-24 12:38:55] ett1 : shake out the weak hands
[2016-12-24 12:38:57] immackay : bitcoin never retraces
[2016-12-24 12:39:05] m3s : Nerve: people who longed the top are already rekt
[2016-12-24 12:39:08] immackay : to quote rapidtrades
[2016-12-24 12:39:25] m3s : my bids at 820 are ready
[2016-12-24 12:39:35] m3s : hop they fill
[2016-12-24 12:39:37] m3s : e
[2016-12-24 12:39:52] ett1 : 887 is a -3.5% dip from 920
[2016-12-24 12:39:59] ett1 : hardly a bear market
[2016-12-24 12:40:14] anonymous789 : m3s: 820 seems pretty knife catchy, i'd imagine it tumbles if it gets anywhere near that
[2016-12-24 12:40:21] ett1 : we just hit new highs and it wont be easy to catch on and ride it all the way
[2016-12-24 12:40:29] ett1 : shakeouts will happen
[2016-12-24 12:40:52] m3s : anonymous789: 830-820 actually. would be healthy for next run up imo
[2016-12-24 12:41:10] anonymous789 : m3s: depends how it goes down, if it goes down quick, could be bad
[2016-12-24 12:41:24] m3s : anonymous789: true. lets see
[2016-12-24 12:41:35] inconspic : christmas present for longers ?
[2016-12-24 12:41:39] ett1 : i think we could still just be testing the strength of 890 to hold
[2016-12-24 12:41:46] ett1 : and 900
[2016-12-24 12:41:57] ett1 : were like 1-2% below
[2016-12-24 12:42:17] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-24 12:42:22] Coconuter : which admin is here ?
[2016-12-24 12:42:47] anonymous789 : funding rate going negative lol
[2016-12-24 12:45:19] narnarfromnarnia : this is nuts
[2016-12-24 12:45:34] narnarfromnarnia : it could really drop further with that big of buy support?
[2016-12-24 12:45:40] narnarfromnarnia : or it's whales on both sides
[2016-12-24 12:46:00] ett1 : theres a lot of money at stake
[2016-12-24 12:46:09] anonymous789 : christmas does tend to sell off
[2016-12-24 12:47:12] ett1 : anonymous789: thatsstupid. theres only been 4 christmases
[2016-12-24 12:47:25] anonymous789 : ;)
[2016-12-24 12:47:30] ett1 : just cos it happened 3 or 4 doesnt make it significant
[2016-12-24 12:47:47] anonymous789 : it's just logical if anything
[2016-12-24 12:47:59] anonymous789 : people closing positions and spending time with their family
[2016-12-24 12:48:21] imperial : after liquidation my available balance is 0.0001 Does it mean that i have lost all my deposit
[2016-12-24 12:48:49] ett1 : ye
[2016-12-24 12:49:35] m3s : imperial: yup. sorry
[2016-12-24 12:49:37] imperial : ett1: so how can I profit from this platform
[2016-12-24 12:49:39] Nerve : imperial: you will have luck next time
[2016-12-24 12:49:47] shery : if 880 doesnt holds dump is real
[2016-12-24 12:50:05] ett1 : imperial: make trades that go your way, not against you and blow up
[2016-12-24 12:50:44] ett1 : you can treat it like a casino and make 10x in a week or a few days
[2016-12-24 12:50:45] Coconuter : where is bitmex admin
[2016-12-24 12:50:47] ett1 : or lose it all
[2016-12-24 12:50:49] Coconuter : i just emailed you guys
[2016-12-24 12:51:00] ett1 : or invest for the long term adn try and double in a year
[2016-12-24 12:51:15] ett1 : everthing adjustable to suit what risk you want to take
[2016-12-24 12:51:26] BitMEX_Wally : Coconuter: Looking into it
[2016-12-24 12:51:37] Coconuter : this isnt fair wally
[2016-12-24 12:51:48] imperial : ett1: thanks man
[2016-12-24 12:52:04] narnarfromnarnia : Coconuter: what happend?
[2016-12-24 12:52:19] immackay : imperial: try learning a little TA
[2016-12-24 12:52:20] BitMEX_Wally : Coconuter: All trades are between users, BitMEX does not set the price
[2016-12-24 12:52:34] ABHI7991 : will it touch 900 again?
[2016-12-24 12:52:35] Coconuter : wally
[2016-12-24 12:52:41] immackay : Coconuter: did you lose everything
[2016-12-24 12:52:48] Coconuter : the order where there if not i wouldnt have closed
[2016-12-24 12:53:08] immackay : ho boy
[2016-12-24 12:53:32] ett1 : you had an open order, that could have been margin to save your from getting REKT? @Coconuter
[2016-12-24 12:53:38] immackay : Coconuter: I don't think Wally can help you
[2016-12-24 12:53:44] Coconuter : i mailed them
[2016-12-24 12:53:49] Coconuter : he knows this isnt fair
[2016-12-24 12:54:11] immackay : Coconuter: what happened?
[2016-12-24 12:54:20] ett1 : what happened? i really doubt there anything they can do if you make a trading mistake
[2016-12-24 12:54:20] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: what do you do, keep order open when close to liq?
[2016-12-24 12:54:31] breadfan : his stop didnt get filled i guess
[2016-12-24 12:54:35] Coconuter : not a trading mistake
[2016-12-24 12:54:56] immackay : but what happened?
[2016-12-24 12:54:58] ett1 : still dont know what happened
[2016-12-24 12:55:03] BitMEX_Wally : At 12:31 the bid price on XBCZ16 was 5500.20 and at 12:33 you submitted a market order to sell and it traded at 5500.20 down to 5336.70
[2016-12-24 12:55:13] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-24 12:55:27] Coconuter : the bot from bitmex took the price down to 5500 when i exited
[2016-12-24 12:55:34] Coconuter : it cleared all the order books
[2016-12-24 12:55:55] BitMEX_Wally : 5500 was the best bid for 2 minutes before had
[2016-12-24 12:56:13] Coconuter : no man the bot saw my exit and took the orders out
[2016-12-24 12:56:21] Coconuter : you can see right after someone bought 0,001xbt
[2016-12-24 12:56:25] Coconuter : and the price went up again
[2016-12-24 12:56:30] Coconuter : and the bot orders came back
[2016-12-24 12:56:41] Coconuter : see same as it is now
[2016-12-24 12:57:14] micmix : ^^ bs, bots can't see your market sell and react to it
[2016-12-24 12:57:31] Coconuter : they did
[2016-12-24 12:57:34] ett1 : i think hes claiming bitmex hunted his liq
[2016-12-24 12:57:38] Coconuter : once i set to sell
[2016-12-24 12:57:46] Coconuter : the bots canceled the orders
[2016-12-24 12:57:52] Coconuter : so my sell was way low
[2016-12-24 12:57:59] Coconuter : look at btccny
[2016-12-24 12:58:03] Coconuter : dec 30
[2016-12-24 12:58:05] ett1 : i think thats just bad luck
[2016-12-24 12:58:06] immackay : Coconuter: https://i.sli.mg/rbNB0B.png
[2016-12-24 12:58:11] immackay : is that what you're talking about?
[2016-12-24 12:58:12] Angelika : Coconut that's not on purpose
[2016-12-24 12:58:21] Angelika : that contract is not very liquid
[2016-12-24 12:58:23] ett1 : the bot didnt see, you just hit market order a moment before the bot was reordering its orders
[2016-12-24 12:58:31] Coconuter : well the orders where there
[2016-12-24 12:58:37] Coconuter : no man the orders where there
[2016-12-24 12:58:46] ett1 : i think its just coincidence, dont use market orders
[2016-12-24 12:58:50] Angelika : my bot constantly changes orders
[2016-12-24 12:58:54] Coconuter : lost 13 bitcoins
[2016-12-24 12:58:56] Coconuter : on this
[2016-12-24 12:58:58] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/quote?symbol=XBCZ16&columns=bidPrice&startTime=2016-12-24T12%3A31%3A00.000&endTime=2016-12-24T12%3A33%3A44.000
[2016-12-24 12:59:14] BitMEX_Wally : This is the the historical data for the bid price around that time
[2016-12-24 12:59:24] micmix : and who uses market sell for 50k contracts?
[2016-12-24 12:59:35] Coconuter : me i wanted to go out to celebrate xmass
[2016-12-24 12:59:39] BitMEX_Wally : Your sell order was at 2016-12-24T12:33:43.594Z
[2016-12-24 12:59:39] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-24 13:00:00] Coconuter : now no more xmass
[2016-12-24 13:00:08] Angelika : :(
[2016-12-24 13:00:11] Angelika : 13 is bad
[2016-12-24 13:00:20] immackay : Coconuter: that's harsh man
[2016-12-24 13:00:28] Coconuter : thank you bitmex just waiting for another pump and taking all i have out
[2016-12-24 13:01:03] Angelika : Coconuter: why did you pick XBC?
[2016-12-24 13:01:12] ett1 : Coconuter: i think its just a lesson
[2016-12-24 13:01:13] Angelika : XBT is way more liquid
[2016-12-24 13:01:22] Coconuter : just for fun i have much more in xbt
[2016-12-24 13:01:25] ett1 : careful with market orders, this can happen
[2016-12-24 13:01:38] Coconuter : but the orders here there
[2016-12-24 13:01:42] Coconuter : visually speaking
[2016-12-24 13:01:47] Coconuter : thats why i closed
[2016-12-24 13:01:52] Coconuter : it picked the first orders
[2016-12-24 13:01:53] ett1 : WERE there
[2016-12-24 13:01:54] Coconuter : than the bot
[2016-12-24 13:01:59] ett1 : they can disapear any time
[2016-12-24 13:01:59] Coconuter : canceled the orders
[2016-12-24 13:02:08] Coconuter : and filled 5500
[2016-12-24 13:02:10] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-24 13:02:13] ett1 : just like you can cancel orders
[2016-12-24 13:02:16] Angelika : Coconut they can't see your market order and cancel that fast
[2016-12-24 13:02:21] ett1 : people put fake walls sometimes
[2016-12-24 13:02:21] Angelika : it was just dumb luck
[2016-12-24 13:02:27] Coconuter : well something happend
[2016-12-24 13:02:28] immackay : ett1: yup
[2016-12-24 13:02:46] mariomarco : finex
[2016-12-24 13:02:48] mariomarco : 88888
[2016-12-24 13:02:52] mariomarco : good number for chinese
[2016-12-24 13:02:56] BitMEX_Wally : Orders are matched atomically, no-one can see your order before it is matched
[2016-12-24 13:03:18] justinlooking : Coconuter market closed 10-15% of open interest???
[2016-12-24 13:03:25] ett1 : some brokers could screw customers by having bots that hunt stops etc, but this is just a care of bad timing, and not being aware of the risks of market orders on your part
[2016-12-24 13:03:39] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: that dump was way bigger than XBT however
[2016-12-24 13:03:49] anonymous789 : 890 does seem to be holding
[2016-12-24 13:03:50] ett1 : learn from it & it will save you losing a bigger about in the future
[2016-12-24 13:03:51] Rado : so the liquidity was not there
[2016-12-24 13:04:38] Coconuter : yes the fake liquidity was showing
[2016-12-24 13:04:40] Coconuter : but acctually there where no liquidity
[2016-12-24 13:04:48] Coconuter : just fake numbers
[2016-12-24 13:05:01] ett1 : anonymous789: its not falling atleadt. its paused arounf 885-890
[2016-12-24 13:05:09] Rado : Coconuter: I see one MM that trades 12500 contracts
[2016-12-24 13:05:15] Rado : you just had to put a limit order
[2016-12-24 13:05:26] Coconuter : well i just wanted out fast
[2016-12-24 13:05:38] Coconuter : so i could enjoy the day the liquidity was falsily showing
[2016-12-24 13:05:48] Coconuter : it grabbed the first close on start
[2016-12-24 13:05:56] Coconuter : then te bot took out the limits
[2016-12-24 13:05:56] Rado : Coconuter: I do the same, but I put my limit lower so I can take out the orders
[2016-12-24 13:06:03] crmun : BitMEX_Wally: anyone from bitmex support is available on tg chat?
[2016-12-24 13:06:08] Rado : I still don't use market order
[2016-12-24 13:06:10] BitMEX_Wally : Coconuter: There was no false liquidity, the market order ate through the bids in the order book
[2016-12-24 13:06:19] Coconuter : ye well just 10 thousands dollars
[2016-12-24 13:06:25] Coconuter : not a big thing right
[2016-12-24 13:06:27] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-24 13:06:44] ett1 : its your fault, you could have seen the depth if thats the case
[2016-12-24 13:07:04] ett1 : was the book thin
[2016-12-24 13:07:11] Coconuter : the order book was full man
[2016-12-24 13:07:16] Coconuter : it had over my amount closed
[2016-12-24 13:07:22] Coconuter : on the first positions
[2016-12-24 13:07:23] mariomarco : fault or no fault, you can imagine how he feels, lets just understand him
[2016-12-24 13:07:47] ett1 : ye but also how btimex staff feels if hes asking for comp
[2016-12-24 13:08:20] anonymous789 : 6400 again
[2016-12-24 13:08:29] Rado : mariomarco: agreed
[2016-12-24 13:08:39] mariomarco : well, i think his history show that he is a competent trader and that this is not his fault to the best of his knowledge
[2016-12-24 13:08:58] Coconuter : sure just tricked by the system
[2016-12-24 13:09:04] Coconuter : they show liquidity but it aint there
[2016-12-24 13:09:08] Coconuter : watch out people
[2016-12-24 13:09:22] ett1 : sorry if i sounded harsh. i dont know him but symnaphetic too
[2016-12-24 13:09:34] gdog : that is why i use only limit orders
[2016-12-24 13:10:18] gdog : had it happen to me once and i know it from the hard way
[2016-12-24 13:10:18] BitMEX_Wally : Coconuter: Look at the API call I pasted, that shows the historical bids at that time.
[2016-12-24 13:10:36] mariomarco : im just looking at the chart how, how is it possible that it just dropped 140$
[2016-12-24 13:10:38] mariomarco : in the hole
[2016-12-24 13:11:12] mariomarco : is it possible that the market fell through that much in that precise moment for him?
[2016-12-24 13:11:35] aethlios : a trader who has a clue about what he is doing is always using limit orders, market means panic and loss of control. You always have to be in control.
[2016-12-24 13:11:43] BitMEX_Wally : I think that the market makers weren't quoting around that time so the spread was wide
[2016-12-24 13:11:58] mariomarco : 140$ wide?! :O
[2016-12-24 13:12:16] immackay : mariomarco: yeah I mean it does look weird
[2016-12-24 13:12:31] ett1 : market orders are ok for entry but not exits
[2016-12-24 13:12:31] mariomarco : immackay: its not weird its goddamn spooky :D
[2016-12-24 13:13:11] BitMEX_Wally : At the time XBCZ16 was 15% wide because the market makers weren't quoting for some reason. But it had been 15% wide for at least 10 minutes
[2016-12-24 13:15:01] ett1 : BitMEX_Wally: think is there a chance bitmex could be leading the move (rather than stamp)?
[2016-12-24 13:15:22] BitMEX_Wally : ett1: Certainly possible as we have the most volume
[2016-12-24 13:15:54] ett1 : thanks, makes sense
[2016-12-24 13:16:29] BTCDJS : aethlios: ??
[2016-12-24 13:16:30] immackay : BitMEX_Wally: in the api stats you linked, it says at 12:33:39 the bidprice was 5500, then at 12:33:43 the bid price was 5336, that seems mighty weird
[2016-12-24 13:16:31] Coconuter : yep the market fell just for me
[2016-12-24 13:16:56] Coconuter : the orders where there showing
[2016-12-24 13:17:03] Coconuter : on the first bids would cover all my sell
[2016-12-24 13:17:07] Coconuter : im not crazy
[2016-12-24 13:17:10] BitMEX_Wally : immackay: That was his order hitting the bids
[2016-12-24 13:17:16] anonymous789 : looks like we could be forming some kind 200 cny channel between 6400 and 6600
[2016-12-24 13:17:24] Coconuter : that bot is always there
[2016-12-24 13:17:43] immackay : BitMEX_Wally: ah, so he sold at a price of 5500? or 5336?
[2016-12-24 13:17:48] Rado : when you hit a bid the bot will adjust the next bid based on some logic
[2016-12-24 13:17:51] ett1 : did the first bids get executed, then the market saw this and removed orders (knowing there was a seller)
[2016-12-24 13:18:01] Coconuter : yes the first where executed
[2016-12-24 13:18:05] Coconuter : on the price
[2016-12-24 13:18:11] Coconuter : the others the bot automaticly removed the bids
[2016-12-24 13:18:22] BitMEX_Wally : ett1: No orders were cancelled or removed
[2016-12-24 13:18:24] immackay : Coconuter: oh, yeah, that's the way it works
[2016-12-24 13:18:28] Coconuter : and bought lower at 5550
[2016-12-24 13:18:31] ett1 : this seems normal to me
[2016-12-24 13:18:53] immackay : once the first bids get executed the bot will change to account for it
[2016-12-24 13:19:19] immackay : since it was pretty much just you and the bot, it likely just kept plunging
[2016-12-24 13:19:23] ett1 : imagine you have an order 2nd in the queue. you see some action close to your order. you can cancel it at any time
[2016-12-24 13:19:44] BitMEX_Wally : His market orders hit all these bids atomically: 1000 at 5500.2, 15000 at 5500.1, 2000 at 5500, 15000 at 5470, 10 at 5451.9, 50 at 5421, 15000 at 5412.4, 1940 at 5336.7
[2016-12-24 13:19:50] ett1 : you can pull you orders, just like somone pull theirs when they saw your orders coming
[2016-12-24 13:20:14] immackay : BitMEX_Wally: yeah, that seems like the bot was just accounting with the lower priced bids
[2016-12-24 13:20:44] immackay : that's why bots will make a spread of 1000 at the highest price, 5000 at a lower price, etc
[2016-12-24 13:20:51] immackay : so they can catch you
[2016-12-24 13:20:56] BitMEX_Wally : In order for a bot to pull orders he would have had to placed a limit order that didn't get filled and rested in the book, and then the market makers could pull bids below it..
[2016-12-24 13:21:21] Rado : correct
[2016-12-24 13:21:38] Rado : bot doesn't change orders if there is no movement on the price
[2016-12-24 13:22:19] BitMEX_Wally : BitMEX orders books match on a price then time priority, and all matching is atomic so no-one can react and pull orders
[2016-12-24 13:22:20] immackay : so a bot wouldn't pull orders on a market order?
[2016-12-24 13:23:00] immackay : so what were all the open bids at that time? is there any way to know?
[2016-12-24 13:23:08] narnarfromnarnia : for stops do you guys use Last for trigger?
[2016-12-24 13:23:16] narnarfromnarnia : say i want to set a stop at 880
[2016-12-24 13:23:19] immackay : ett1: did you email me yet
[2016-12-24 13:23:24] narnarfromnarnia : close on trigger?
[2016-12-24 13:23:44] BitMEX_Wally : immackay: No-one can pull orders until after the market order has executed
[2016-12-24 13:24:21] immackay : Ah okay so only a limit order would cause that sort of behavior?
[2016-12-24 13:24:23] Rado : narnarfromnarnia: I use last
[2016-12-24 13:24:31] micmix : The best bid was 5500 as Wally said, I bet he didn't look at the orderbook and just placed the market order
[2016-12-24 13:24:50] immackay : I'm just wondering what the orderbook was at the time
[2016-12-24 13:24:56] BitMEX_Wally : immackay: You can look at the /quote API end point for the historical best bid. We do not publish historical depth but I have the data from the raw orders people submit
[2016-12-24 13:25:11] immackay : BitMEX_Wally: I'm far too lazy to do that
[2016-12-24 13:25:18] Rado : immackay: lol
[2016-12-24 13:25:22] Rado : lets move on
[2016-12-24 13:25:27] Rado : we all feel for his loss
[2016-12-24 13:27:35] anonymous789 : https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
[2016-12-24 13:27:38] anonymous789 : buyers loading up
[2016-12-24 13:41:16] m3s : much sideways
[2016-12-24 13:41:47] anonymous789 : sideways could be a good thing
[2016-12-24 13:42:23] crmun : BitMEX_Sam: are you here?
[2016-12-24 13:42:31] ett1 : the longer it goes sideways the bigger it moves when it does
[2016-12-24 13:43:11] anonymous789 : looks like a 15-20 dollar channel if it goes back up now
[2016-12-24 13:55:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 3000 @ 6351.2
[2016-12-24 13:57:15] shery : seems like btc wanna gow lower
[2016-12-24 13:58:15] Rado : shery: It just seem that way
[2016-12-24 13:58:22] Rado : ;-)
[2016-12-24 13:58:42] shery : Rado: it did dumped in past few hours lol
[2016-12-24 13:58:56] Rado : true
[2016-12-24 13:58:58] anonymous789 : 10pm in china
[2016-12-24 13:59:04] Rado : look at a little bigger picture
[2016-12-24 13:59:35] Rado : the correction is small compared to how much it went up
[2016-12-24 13:59:52] Rado : anonymous789: which side are you trading now?
[2016-12-24 14:00:01] anonymous789 : long
[2016-12-24 14:00:05] Rado : cool
[2016-12-24 14:00:10] anonymous789 : you?
[2016-12-24 14:00:29] Rado : I have some March contracts
[2016-12-24 14:00:39] Rado : just started my new MM bot
[2016-12-24 14:00:43] Rado : yesterday
[2016-12-24 14:00:47] Rado : wish me luck :-)
[2016-12-24 14:00:53] anonymous789 : cool good luck
[2016-12-24 14:00:56] anonymous789 : long?
[2016-12-24 14:01:05] Rado : on MArch yes
[2016-12-24 14:01:08] anonymous789 : cool
[2016-12-24 14:01:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 5000 @ 6343.3
[2016-12-24 14:01:36] Rado : look at funding
[2016-12-24 14:01:46] aaaaa : yeah
[2016-12-24 14:01:47] Rado : 0.21 % and then next period -0.11
[2016-12-24 14:01:59] aaaaa : next period is streching
[2016-12-24 14:02:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2300 @ 888.36
[2016-12-24 14:02:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 888.31
[2016-12-24 14:03:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 13450 @ 887.38
[2016-12-24 14:03:02] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2016-12-24 14:03:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 30000 @ 885.80
[2016-12-24 14:03:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 58008 @ 886.05 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-24 14:03:22] immackay : lmao
[2016-12-24 14:03:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1060 @ 882.73
[2016-12-24 14:04:21] medpex : uhh
[2016-12-24 14:04:35] ett1 : bearstamp ruins it again
[2016-12-24 14:05:00] ett1 : i think bitmex is leading this bull run if it wont shake
[2016-12-24 14:05:55] rapidtrades : CRASH
[2016-12-24 14:05:57] rapidtrades : CRASHHH
[2016-12-24 14:06:20] rapidtrades : IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD
[2016-12-24 14:06:44] arbitrage001 : wtf
[2016-12-24 14:06:52] arbitrage001 : we were so close to 1000
[2016-12-24 14:06:55] immackay : rapidtrades: I missed you
[2016-12-24 14:07:00] anonymous789 : bounce
[2016-12-24 14:07:13] m3s : ow shit, buy the dip
[2016-12-24 14:07:30] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: how low ya reckon mate?
[2016-12-24 14:07:59] immackay : BTCDJS: shhh, bitcoin never retraces
[2016-12-24 14:08:07] rapidtrades : $100 TODAY
[2016-12-24 14:08:18] Rado : yeah it looks really bad from $780 to $880
[2016-12-24 14:08:33] immackay : rapidtrades: that's the spirit
[2016-12-24 14:08:36] Rado : rapidtrades: none sense
[2016-12-24 14:08:47] Rado : talking out of your ass
[2016-12-24 14:08:58] shery : dump is rel get out guys
[2016-12-24 14:09:04] immackay : Rado: have you two not met?
[2016-12-24 14:09:16] rapidtrades : I meant we'll dump to $100
[2016-12-24 14:09:20] rapidtrades : TODAY
[2016-12-24 14:09:26] mariomarco : shakeout #29080
[2016-12-24 14:09:27] Rado : not yet
[2016-12-24 14:10:02] immackay : Rado: @rapidtrades takes "trollbox" to heart
[2016-12-24 14:10:17] Rado : immackay: oh you mean met on the chat
[2016-12-24 14:10:24] Rado : yes we know each other
[2016-12-24 14:10:34] immackay : rapidtrades: did you short yesterday?
[2016-12-24 14:10:34] Rado : I haven't meet him in person yet :-)
[2016-12-24 14:10:51] immackay : good on you if you did
[2016-12-24 14:10:58] immackay : looks like this baby is riding down for a while
[2016-12-24 14:11:20] crmun : BitMEX_Wally: can i block any withdrawals from my account? i had some suspicious activity on my phone today
[2016-12-24 14:11:30] Rado : every dump it's just buying opportunity
[2016-12-24 14:11:45] gdog : i got some at the low
[2016-12-24 14:11:56] Rado : crmun: you have to approve each withdrawal
[2016-12-24 14:12:04] Rado : by eamail
[2016-12-24 14:12:13] crmun : by email?
[2016-12-24 14:12:17] crmun : for sure?
[2016-12-24 14:12:19] Rado : you have lots of time to react since the withdrawal is only once per day
[2016-12-24 14:12:25] Rado : I love this future
[2016-12-24 14:12:29] Rado : yes 100%
[2016-12-24 14:12:30] ett1 : ye got 880.01 filled :) @gdog
[2016-12-24 14:12:48] mariomarco : ett1: gj bro
[2016-12-24 14:12:48] rapidtrades : thats not thwelow
[2016-12-24 14:12:51] paniktrade : zhit guys buy the dip before okcoin does
[2016-12-24 14:12:51] crmun : i know but its xmas so i will spend lot of time afk
[2016-12-24 14:13:04] Rado : rapidtrades: what is the low?
[2016-12-24 14:13:06] Rado : educate us
[2016-12-24 14:13:25] ett1 : hit me
[2016-12-24 14:13:35] Rado : crmun: if they hacked your BitMEX accoutn and your email then you are in trouble
[2016-12-24 14:13:45] rapidtrades : < 740
[2016-12-24 14:14:04] Rado : rapidtrades: I will bet you 1 BTC that it will not go there
[2016-12-24 14:14:05] crmun : Rado: you will never know until it is done
[2016-12-24 14:14:30] Rado : crmun: do you have 2FA on your account?
[2016-12-24 14:14:45] immackay : if it doesn't jump within two hours I'd say it's going to 850ish territory
[2016-12-24 14:14:46] crmun : yes. on fkn phone
[2016-12-24 14:15:07] Rado : immackay: 850 seems reasonable
[2016-12-24 14:15:24] rapidtrades : this is the last dip buying b4 doom
[2016-12-24 14:15:32] rapidtrades : buyers will be overwhelmed soon
[2016-12-24 14:16:14] immackay : lowest it can go is 800 barring any serious whales selling off but I'd say 830 is a reasonable minimum
[2016-12-24 14:16:20] Rado : rapidtrades: what happened with you
[2016-12-24 14:16:33] Rado : became more negative than ususal
[2016-12-24 14:16:34] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-24 14:16:52] ett1 : Rado: he just fallows whatever the last 4hr is doing
[2016-12-24 14:16:57] ett1 : and trolls the opposite
[2016-12-24 14:16:59] immackay : but yeah 850 is my bet, then back up to 880
[2016-12-24 14:18:10] immackay : then a slow decline to between 840-860 by jan 6
[2016-12-24 14:18:38] rapidtrades : there is no slow anymore, vol is too high
[2016-12-24 14:18:39] shery : I think we will go lower
[2016-12-24 14:18:42] Rado : immackay: or a slow climb to $1000
[2016-12-24 14:18:49] shery : 870 here
[2016-12-24 14:18:51] rapidtrades : either 100 up or dwon
[2016-12-24 14:19:01] Rado : rapidtrades: there you go
[2016-12-24 14:19:08] ett1 : bounce to 870 then 940
[2016-12-24 14:19:12] ett1 : then 900 then 1000
[2016-12-24 14:19:13] Rado : now you are making more sense
[2016-12-24 14:19:14] immackay : rapidtrades: doesn't higher volume make the price more stable
[2016-12-24 14:19:15] ett1 : then ATH
[2016-12-24 14:19:41] ett1 : bitmex holding better than anyone
[2016-12-24 14:20:46] rapidtrades : immackay: ceteris paribus , right niw no
[2016-12-24 14:21:46] shery : I am out for a while
[2016-12-24 14:22:09] immackay : rapidtrades: I suppose yeah
[2016-12-24 14:36:05] anonymous789 : pretty solid engulfing candle on the 15min
[2016-12-24 14:36:11] anonymous789 : cny
[2016-12-24 14:36:49] shery : anonymous789: no volume
[2016-12-24 14:37:02] anonymous789 : this is true
[2016-12-24 14:37:20] ett1 : anonymous789: higher low if it doesnt break lower
[2016-12-24 14:37:25] anonymous789 : actually the englufing candle had higher volume
[2016-12-24 14:37:31] anonymous789 : the small dip right now has no volume
[2016-12-24 14:37:58] anonymous789 : 15min of course
[2016-12-24 14:38:05] anonymous789 : hourly is not much volume either way
[2016-12-24 14:38:22] anonymous789 : ett1: indeed
[2016-12-24 14:38:29] anonymous789 : 880 seems pretty crucial
[2016-12-24 14:38:30] shery : anonymous789: There is no volume from start
[2016-12-24 14:38:41] shery : On todays drop
[2016-12-24 14:39:00] shery : If 880 is broken it will go way lwer
[2016-12-24 14:39:08] anonymous789 : shery: yeah not much volume today at all
[2016-12-24 14:39:12] anonymous789 : be worse tomorrrow i guess
[2016-12-24 14:39:52] ett1 : anonymous789: on the 30min its a hammer
[2016-12-24 14:39:58] ett1 : the 2 15min candles
[2016-12-24 14:40:11] ett1 : reversal pattern esp with the trend
[2016-12-24 14:40:28] ett1 : i think a shakeout of 990 & 890s
[2016-12-24 14:40:50] ett1 : bitmex maybe leading the move its got the highest volu
[2016-12-24 14:41:09] anonymous789 : ett1: let's see what happens at the SMA on the bollinger bands
[2016-12-24 14:44:03] JuriFX : It's quite concerning that price even came back to retest almost the extreme (deep retrace) of that higher low (874). A strong trend with bulls wouldn't have let the bears take it so far... We'll see
[2016-12-24 14:44:49] JuriFX : There was some buying at 888 but it was short lived
[2016-12-24 14:45:09] JuriFX : now last chance for bulls to defend it
[2016-12-24 14:46:34] JuriFX : if 874 breaks then there's nothing to stop them till 864
[2016-12-24 14:48:05] ett1 : looks like strength to me
[2016-12-24 14:48:17] ett1 : 890 resistance
[2016-12-24 14:48:23] shery : Still no vlume in buying
[2016-12-24 14:48:46] anonymous789 : breaking a little minor downtrend line on 15min cny
[2016-12-24 14:49:13] anonymous789 : approaching that 15min cny SMA too
[2016-12-24 14:49:41] ett1 : ye im watching the SMA too
[2016-12-24 14:49:50] anonymous789 : needs to get on the other side of that SMA
[2016-12-24 14:49:53] ett1 : and this hourly candle forms
[2016-12-24 14:50:30] ett1 : but volatility has picked up i think if theres is a move back above 900 we are going to 1k
[2016-12-24 14:50:43] ett1 : probably not if this doesnt hold
[2016-12-24 14:50:57] anonymous789 : 6600 is going to be major resistance now i think
[2016-12-24 14:50:57] ett1 : a bit too much excitement about the holiday
[2016-12-24 14:54:50] anonymous789 : USD is struggling much more to go higher in value than the cny
[2016-12-24 14:55:26] anonymous789 : bearstamp being stupid
[2016-12-24 14:57:06] l3f : fakeout after fakeout
[2016-12-24 14:57:08] l3f : are we learning yet?
[2016-12-24 14:57:32] shery : l3f: Big dump???
[2016-12-24 14:57:47] ett1 : nobody ever leanrs from history. always repeating the same mistakes
[2016-12-24 14:58:00] gdog : i thinking same or higher for a bit
[2016-12-24 14:58:02] l3f : shery: i will explain this one more time
[2016-12-24 14:58:13] l3f : if you still don't get it then you can't be helped
[2016-12-24 14:58:23] l3f : weak hands needs to be shaken out
[2016-12-24 14:58:35] l3f : it looks like it's going down
[2016-12-24 14:58:40] l3f : whales will step on your balls
[2016-12-24 14:58:41] ett1 : things dont go up in a straight line
[2016-12-24 14:58:45] ett1 : they zig zag
[2016-12-24 14:58:53] l3f : if you cry, you shake, you fear, you dump
[2016-12-24 14:58:56] l3f : they buy the dip
[2016-12-24 14:58:59] l3f : you're out
[2016-12-24 14:59:22] l3f : If it is not clear to you why this happens
[2016-12-24 14:59:28] l3f : I'm not going to explain further
[2016-12-24 15:00:11] shery : l3f: ah so thats what you wann say
[2016-12-24 15:01:04] l3f : when they exit, they can exit during pumps
[2016-12-24 15:01:13] l3f : they can exit with a huge dump (so big that you won't see it coming)
[2016-12-24 15:01:20] l3f : certainly not 1 usd per minute slow
[2016-12-24 15:01:31] l3f : they don't pull this slow shit
[2016-12-24 15:01:44] l3f : to exit their massive positions
[2016-12-24 15:01:49] l3f : there's mo volume in these dumps
[2016-12-24 15:01:49] shery : l3f: Nice explanation
[2016-12-24 15:01:53] l3f : no*
[2016-12-24 15:02:15] l3f : but you know
[2016-12-24 15:02:25] l3f : I'm not perfect and my interpetation may be fucked
[2016-12-24 15:02:37] l3f : sleger might dump just to pop a cap in my ass
[2016-12-24 15:02:37] shery : l3f: so what you say when we are heading back above 900 ?
[2016-12-24 15:02:44] l3f : shery: give it another 4 hours
[2016-12-24 15:03:38] l3f : western whale pumped too early, china whale wasn't ready yet, so he's doing this to get back in
[2016-12-24 15:06:21] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/xvDD5FiZ/
[2016-12-24 15:06:42] aethlios : yan premium steadily up, china get's in the game.
[2016-12-24 15:07:17] l3f : aethlios: I pray to fucking god that I'm right
[2016-12-24 15:07:27] l3f : based jesus
[2016-12-24 15:07:34] l3f : haha
[2016-12-24 15:07:45] ett1 : yes i want my yacht
[2016-12-24 15:08:01] l3f : ett1: sleger's on his seventh now
[2016-12-24 15:08:40] aethlios : l3f: i agree with you above analysis
[2016-12-24 15:08:42] anonymous789 : nice breakout above the SMA on the 15min
[2016-12-24 15:09:39] Angelika : l3f: it's not about being right all the time. It's more about managing risk and position size
[2016-12-24 15:09:43] Angelika : profits will come
[2016-12-24 15:10:19] l3f : Angelika: Hi Rado, of course
[2016-12-24 15:10:40] ett1 : its about patence, timing & going balls to the wall with leverage when at a point well never go bac below
[2016-12-24 15:10:52] ett1 : then adding more and more with profits
[2016-12-24 15:10:54] aethlios : Angelika: in other words managing fear and greed, so it is a road to self improvement. trading makes you a better person.
[2016-12-24 15:11:08] abz : aethlios: on your chart volumes are declining and there is a bearish MFI divergence
[2016-12-24 15:11:16] l3f : aethlios: it's enabling my gambling addiction
[2016-12-24 15:11:22] ett1 : take care of your greed & the fear takes care of itself
[2016-12-24 15:11:34] l3f : for ya TA fucks, divergence on bitstamp hourly graph
[2016-12-24 15:11:34] shery : here comes the volume
[2016-12-24 15:11:36] l3f : use stoch
[2016-12-24 15:11:42] ett1 : unshaking confidence is what you need
[2016-12-24 15:11:57] ett1 : when youve got a 90% probability wi
[2016-12-24 15:13:42] aethlios : abz: volume is a problem in btc, I don't use chinese exchanges because of fake volume. I use stamp, stamp was hacked so after hack volumes went down, also an exchange could lose market share and lose volume. Another thong is that because btc are fixed supply, volume in btc could go down as price goes up, maybe we should use volume in usd.
[2016-12-24 15:15:24] immackay : are the bulls back yet
[2016-12-24 15:15:31] abz : Agree about volume. Then look at A/D vs. price action divergence.
[2016-12-24 15:15:40] gdog : you guys see what huobi did
[2016-12-24 15:17:52] abz : Lets wait for MACD div on your chart as a confirmation of ABC correction after wave 5.
[2016-12-24 15:18:19] Angelika : gdog: what?
[2016-12-24 15:18:38] l3f : abz: divergence readings are not accurate on hourly charts anyway
[2016-12-24 15:18:45] l3f : I don't buy the waves stuff
[2016-12-24 15:19:02] Angelika : l3f: I don't like waves at all
[2016-12-24 15:19:06] gdog : they jumped about 40 yaun
[2016-12-24 15:19:08] Angelika : they only adjust them after the fact
[2016-12-24 15:19:14] l3f : Angelika: I check the technique on wikipedia first
[2016-12-24 15:19:16] l3f : if it says no effect
[2016-12-24 15:19:20] l3f : like fib retracements
[2016-12-24 15:19:23] l3f : then I don't buy it
[2016-12-24 15:19:40] abz : OK. Just find your chart very interesting indicator of chinese whales move :)
[2016-12-24 15:20:22] Angelika : gdog: Huobi seems inline with the other Chinese exchanges
[2016-12-24 15:20:35] l3f : this is my outlet for my gambling addiction btw
[2016-12-24 15:20:49] l3f : bitmex casino and report
[2016-12-24 15:20:53] l3f : resort*
[2016-12-24 15:21:11] immackay : waiting for bearstamp
[2016-12-24 15:21:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 1000 @ 897.98
[2016-12-24 15:29:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 13000 @ 895.92
[2016-12-24 15:29:36] halloz : lolz
[2016-12-24 15:29:48] cryptomad : _l_
[2016-12-24 15:29:56] cryptomad : _l_
[2016-12-24 15:30:20] ett1 : l3f: its like poker. sounds like your one of the smarter guys at the table
[2016-12-24 15:30:32] ett1 : being early will always help in btc
[2016-12-24 15:31:30] shery : Nice push waiting for china to move
[2016-12-24 15:32:47] aethlios : btc world is the pure speculation game, like pre 1933 wall street. no regulation, any manipulation allowed, and just pure technical analysis and human psychology, all these 24/7/365.
[2016-12-24 15:33:51] ett1 : perfect
[2016-12-24 15:35:08] MikeHunt : the way the market should be
[2016-12-24 15:36:06] l3f : shery: well?
[2016-12-24 15:36:17] l3f : it's funny because you ask me when X price will hot
[2016-12-24 15:36:18] l3f : hit*