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[2016-12-24 12:25:02] Nerve : l3f: ofcourse you lie LOL
[2016-12-24 12:25:05] ett1 : shaking out the overleveraged
[2016-12-24 12:25:39] ett1 : no premium on 716
[2016-12-24 12:26:10] ett1 : z16
[2016-12-24 12:27:01] Nerve : Have anyone Buy/Sell ration for last hour ?
[2016-12-24 12:27:24] Nerve : it looks like pretty bad...
[2016-12-24 12:28:19] billyboy402 : ett1: it settle in a week , there shouldnt be much ,
[2016-12-24 12:28:40] narnarfromnarnia : nice! sheri what did you do?
[2016-12-24 12:29:17] narnarfromnarnia : nice buys
[2016-12-24 12:29:36] BitMEX_Wally : Nerve: For XBTUSD in the last 30 minutes about 33% of takers have been buying, 66% selling
[2016-12-24 12:29:36] gdog : any need to change there underwear from that
[2016-12-24 12:29:38] shery : narnarfromnarnia: bought more at 884
[2016-12-24 12:29:44] narnarfromnarnia : gdog: lmao
[2016-12-24 12:29:45] narnarfromnarnia : yes
[2016-12-24 12:29:55] narnarfromnarnia : can we go up now
[2016-12-24 12:30:00] narnarfromnarnia : like 910+
[2016-12-24 12:30:03] narnarfromnarnia : geez
[2016-12-24 12:30:11] gdog : i 2en that
[2016-12-24 12:30:14] shery : narnarfromnarnia: No ide now, market have become unpredictabl
[2016-12-24 12:30:27] narnarfromnarnia : did you close your position then? @shery
[2016-12-24 12:30:30] Nerve : narnarfromnarnia: not yet
[2016-12-24 12:30:43] narnarfromnarnia : Nerve: dropping again?
[2016-12-24 12:30:56] anonymous789 : https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
[2016-12-24 12:30:57] shery : narnarfromnarnia: Just strengthened my long liquidation towards 820
[2016-12-24 12:31:00] Nerve : Ofcourse...a little bit
[2016-12-24 12:31:41] Nerve : shery: what lavrege do you use ?
[2016-12-24 12:31:56] shery : Nerve: 5x
[2016-12-24 12:32:20] Nerve : shery: oh...you played safe
[2016-12-24 12:32:23] narnarfromnarnia : shery: are you trying to exit that long?
[2016-12-24 12:32:35] anonymous789 : this could be quite bad guys, cny first time we've been below SMA on the bollinger bands for a long time hourly
[2016-12-24 12:32:40] narnarfromnarnia : yes buy power arrived
[2016-12-24 12:32:40] Nerve : narnarfromnarnia: why will he do that ?
[2016-12-24 12:32:49] shery : narnarfromnarnia: rebound looks nice , may this was last dump
[2016-12-24 12:32:57] narnarfromnarnia : 257k
[2016-12-24 12:32:58] narnarfromnarnia : holy
[2016-12-24 12:33:01] anonymous789 : or it oculd be sideways
[2016-12-24 12:33:09] anonymous789 : could*
[2016-12-24 12:33:52] Nerve : Make sense....like 50/50 lol
[2016-12-24 12:35:13] narnarfromnarnia : they keep flashing 250k
[2016-12-24 12:35:15] narnarfromnarnia : on both sides
[2016-12-24 12:35:22] mariomarco : yea
[2016-12-24 12:35:30] narnarfromnarnia : mess with the walls i guess
[2016-12-24 12:35:33] narnarfromnarnia : or show support
[2016-12-24 12:35:34] narnarfromnarnia : i hope
[2016-12-24 12:36:45] narnarfromnarnia : wild
[2016-12-24 12:37:08] Nerve : https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
[2016-12-24 12:37:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 100 @ 0.008280
[2016-12-24 12:37:44] anonymous789 : quite annoying really, all this effort to break 900 and then it starts messing around
[2016-12-24 12:37:49] anonymous789 : didn't even make a decent attempt at 1k
[2016-12-24 12:38:10] m3s : we are talking 10% moves in a day, give it some time :D
[2016-12-24 12:38:12] ett1 : there will be pain
[2016-12-24 12:38:35] Nerve : ett1: there is already
[2016-12-24 12:38:51] immackay : remember guys
[2016-12-24 12:38:55] ett1 : shake out the weak hands
[2016-12-24 12:38:57] immackay : bitcoin never retraces
[2016-12-24 12:39:05] m3s : Nerve: people who longed the top are already rekt
[2016-12-24 12:39:08] immackay : to quote rapidtrades
[2016-12-24 12:39:25] m3s : my bids at 820 are ready
[2016-12-24 12:39:35] m3s : hop they fill
[2016-12-24 12:39:37] m3s : e
[2016-12-24 12:39:52] ett1 : 887 is a -3.5% dip from 920
[2016-12-24 12:39:59] ett1 : hardly a bear market
[2016-12-24 12:40:14] anonymous789 : m3s: 820 seems pretty knife catchy, i'd imagine it tumbles if it gets anywhere near that
[2016-12-24 12:40:21] ett1 : we just hit new highs and it wont be easy to catch on and ride it all the way
[2016-12-24 12:40:29] ett1 : shakeouts will happen
[2016-12-24 12:40:52] m3s : anonymous789: 830-820 actually. would be healthy for next run up imo
[2016-12-24 12:41:10] anonymous789 : m3s: depends how it goes down, if it goes down quick, could be bad
[2016-12-24 12:41:24] m3s : anonymous789: true. lets see
[2016-12-24 12:41:35] inconspic : christmas present for longers ?
[2016-12-24 12:41:39] ett1 : i think we could still just be testing the strength of 890 to hold
[2016-12-24 12:41:46] ett1 : and 900
[2016-12-24 12:41:57] ett1 : were like 1-2% below
[2016-12-24 12:42:17] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-24 12:42:22] Coconuter : which admin is here ?
[2016-12-24 12:42:47] anonymous789 : funding rate going negative lol
[2016-12-24 12:45:19] narnarfromnarnia : this is nuts
[2016-12-24 12:45:34] narnarfromnarnia : it could really drop further with that big of buy support?
[2016-12-24 12:45:40] narnarfromnarnia : or it's whales on both sides
[2016-12-24 12:46:00] ett1 : theres a lot of money at stake
[2016-12-24 12:46:09] anonymous789 : christmas does tend to sell off
[2016-12-24 12:47:12] ett1 : anonymous789: thatsstupid. theres only been 4 christmases
[2016-12-24 12:47:25] anonymous789 : ;)
[2016-12-24 12:47:30] ett1 : just cos it happened 3 or 4 doesnt make it significant
[2016-12-24 12:47:47] anonymous789 : it's just logical if anything
[2016-12-24 12:47:59] anonymous789 : people closing positions and spending time with their family
[2016-12-24 12:48:21] imperial : after liquidation my available balance is 0.0001 Does it mean that i have lost all my deposit
[2016-12-24 12:48:49] ett1 : ye
[2016-12-24 12:49:35] m3s : imperial: yup. sorry
[2016-12-24 12:49:37] imperial : ett1: so how can I profit from this platform
[2016-12-24 12:49:39] Nerve : imperial: you will have luck next time
[2016-12-24 12:49:47] shery : if 880 doesnt holds dump is real
[2016-12-24 12:50:05] ett1 : imperial: make trades that go your way, not against you and blow up
[2016-12-24 12:50:44] ett1 : you can treat it like a casino and make 10x in a week or a few days
[2016-12-24 12:50:45] Coconuter : where is bitmex admin
[2016-12-24 12:50:47] ett1 : or lose it all
[2016-12-24 12:50:49] Coconuter : i just emailed you guys
[2016-12-24 12:51:00] ett1 : or invest for the long term adn try and double in a year
[2016-12-24 12:51:15] ett1 : everthing adjustable to suit what risk you want to take
[2016-12-24 12:51:26] BitMEX_Wally : Coconuter: Looking into it
[2016-12-24 12:51:37] Coconuter : this isnt fair wally
[2016-12-24 12:51:48] imperial : ett1: thanks man
[2016-12-24 12:52:04] narnarfromnarnia : Coconuter: what happend?
[2016-12-24 12:52:19] immackay : imperial: try learning a little TA
[2016-12-24 12:52:20] BitMEX_Wally : Coconuter: All trades are between users, BitMEX does not set the price
[2016-12-24 12:52:34] ABHI7991 : will it touch 900 again?
[2016-12-24 12:52:35] Coconuter : wally
[2016-12-24 12:52:41] immackay : Coconuter: did you lose everything
[2016-12-24 12:52:48] Coconuter : the order where there if not i wouldnt have closed
[2016-12-24 12:53:08] immackay : ho boy
[2016-12-24 12:53:32] ett1 : you had an open order, that could have been margin to save your from getting REKT? @Coconuter
[2016-12-24 12:53:38] immackay : Coconuter: I don't think Wally can help you
[2016-12-24 12:53:44] Coconuter : i mailed them
[2016-12-24 12:53:49] Coconuter : he knows this isnt fair
[2016-12-24 12:54:11] immackay : Coconuter: what happened?
[2016-12-24 12:54:20] ett1 : what happened? i really doubt there anything they can do if you make a trading mistake
[2016-12-24 12:54:20] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: what do you do, keep order open when close to liq?
[2016-12-24 12:54:31] breadfan : his stop didnt get filled i guess
[2016-12-24 12:54:35] Coconuter : not a trading mistake
[2016-12-24 12:54:56] immackay : but what happened?
[2016-12-24 12:54:58] ett1 : still dont know what happened
[2016-12-24 12:55:03] BitMEX_Wally : At 12:31 the bid price on XBCZ16 was 5500.20 and at 12:33 you submitted a market order to sell and it traded at 5500.20 down to 5336.70
[2016-12-24 12:55:13] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-24 12:55:27] Coconuter : the bot from bitmex took the price down to 5500 when i exited
[2016-12-24 12:55:34] Coconuter : it cleared all the order books
[2016-12-24 12:55:55] BitMEX_Wally : 5500 was the best bid for 2 minutes before had
[2016-12-24 12:56:13] Coconuter : no man the bot saw my exit and took the orders out
[2016-12-24 12:56:21] Coconuter : you can see right after someone bought 0,001xbt
[2016-12-24 12:56:25] Coconuter : and the price went up again
[2016-12-24 12:56:30] Coconuter : and the bot orders came back
[2016-12-24 12:56:41] Coconuter : see same as it is now
[2016-12-24 12:57:14] micmix : ^^ bs, bots can't see your market sell and react to it
[2016-12-24 12:57:31] Coconuter : they did
[2016-12-24 12:57:34] ett1 : i think hes claiming bitmex hunted his liq
[2016-12-24 12:57:38] Coconuter : once i set to sell
[2016-12-24 12:57:46] Coconuter : the bots canceled the orders
[2016-12-24 12:57:52] Coconuter : so my sell was way low
[2016-12-24 12:57:59] Coconuter : look at btccny
[2016-12-24 12:58:03] Coconuter : dec 30
[2016-12-24 12:58:05] ett1 : i think thats just bad luck
[2016-12-24 12:58:06] immackay : Coconuter: https://i.sli.mg/rbNB0B.png
[2016-12-24 12:58:11] immackay : is that what you're talking about?
[2016-12-24 12:58:12] Angelika : Coconut that's not on purpose
[2016-12-24 12:58:21] Angelika : that contract is not very liquid
[2016-12-24 12:58:23] ett1 : the bot didnt see, you just hit market order a moment before the bot was reordering its orders
[2016-12-24 12:58:31] Coconuter : well the orders where there
[2016-12-24 12:58:37] Coconuter : no man the orders where there
[2016-12-24 12:58:46] ett1 : i think its just coincidence, dont use market orders
[2016-12-24 12:58:50] Angelika : my bot constantly changes orders
[2016-12-24 12:58:54] Coconuter : lost 13 bitcoins
[2016-12-24 12:58:56] Coconuter : on this
[2016-12-24 12:58:58] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/quote?symbol=XBCZ16&columns=bidPrice&startTime=2016-12-24T12%3A31%3A00.000&endTime=2016-12-24T12%3A33%3A44.000
[2016-12-24 12:59:14] BitMEX_Wally : This is the the historical data for the bid price around that time
[2016-12-24 12:59:24] micmix : and who uses market sell for 50k contracts?
[2016-12-24 12:59:35] Coconuter : me i wanted to go out to celebrate xmass
[2016-12-24 12:59:39] BitMEX_Wally : Your sell order was at 2016-12-24T12:33:43.594Z
[2016-12-24 12:59:39] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-24 13:00:00] Coconuter : now no more xmass
[2016-12-24 13:00:08] Angelika : :(
[2016-12-24 13:00:11] Angelika : 13 is bad
[2016-12-24 13:00:20] immackay : Coconuter: that's harsh man
[2016-12-24 13:00:28] Coconuter : thank you bitmex just waiting for another pump and taking all i have out
[2016-12-24 13:01:03] Angelika : Coconuter: why did you pick XBC?
[2016-12-24 13:01:12] ett1 : Coconuter: i think its just a lesson
[2016-12-24 13:01:13] Angelika : XBT is way more liquid
[2016-12-24 13:01:22] Coconuter : just for fun i have much more in xbt
[2016-12-24 13:01:25] ett1 : careful with market orders, this can happen
[2016-12-24 13:01:38] Coconuter : but the orders here there
[2016-12-24 13:01:42] Coconuter : visually speaking
[2016-12-24 13:01:47] Coconuter : thats why i closed
[2016-12-24 13:01:52] Coconuter : it picked the first orders
[2016-12-24 13:01:53] ett1 : WERE there
[2016-12-24 13:01:54] Coconuter : than the bot
[2016-12-24 13:01:59] ett1 : they can disapear any time
[2016-12-24 13:01:59] Coconuter : canceled the orders
[2016-12-24 13:02:08] Coconuter : and filled 5500
[2016-12-24 13:02:10] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-24 13:02:13] ett1 : just like you can cancel orders
[2016-12-24 13:02:16] Angelika : Coconut they can't see your market order and cancel that fast
[2016-12-24 13:02:21] ett1 : people put fake walls sometimes
[2016-12-24 13:02:21] Angelika : it was just dumb luck
[2016-12-24 13:02:27] Coconuter : well something happend
[2016-12-24 13:02:28] immackay : ett1: yup
[2016-12-24 13:02:46] mariomarco : finex
[2016-12-24 13:02:48] mariomarco : 88888
[2016-12-24 13:02:52] mariomarco : good number for chinese
[2016-12-24 13:02:56] BitMEX_Wally : Orders are matched atomically, no-one can see your order before it is matched
[2016-12-24 13:03:18] justinlooking : Coconuter market closed 10-15% of open interest???
[2016-12-24 13:03:25] ett1 : some brokers could screw customers by having bots that hunt stops etc, but this is just a care of bad timing, and not being aware of the risks of market orders on your part
[2016-12-24 13:03:39] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: that dump was way bigger than XBT however
[2016-12-24 13:03:49] anonymous789 : 890 does seem to be holding
[2016-12-24 13:03:50] ett1 : learn from it & it will save you losing a bigger about in the future
[2016-12-24 13:03:51] Rado : so the liquidity was not there
[2016-12-24 13:04:38] Coconuter : yes the fake liquidity was showing
[2016-12-24 13:04:40] Coconuter : but acctually there where no liquidity
[2016-12-24 13:04:48] Coconuter : just fake numbers
[2016-12-24 13:05:01] ett1 : anonymous789: its not falling atleadt. its paused arounf 885-890
[2016-12-24 13:05:09] Rado : Coconuter: I see one MM that trades 12500 contracts
[2016-12-24 13:05:15] Rado : you just had to put a limit order
[2016-12-24 13:05:26] Coconuter : well i just wanted out fast
[2016-12-24 13:05:38] Coconuter : so i could enjoy the day the liquidity was falsily showing
[2016-12-24 13:05:48] Coconuter : it grabbed the first close on start
[2016-12-24 13:05:56] Coconuter : then te bot took out the limits
[2016-12-24 13:05:56] Rado : Coconuter: I do the same, but I put my limit lower so I can take out the orders
[2016-12-24 13:06:03] crmun : BitMEX_Wally: anyone from bitmex support is available on tg chat?
[2016-12-24 13:06:08] Rado : I still don't use market order
[2016-12-24 13:06:10] BitMEX_Wally : Coconuter: There was no false liquidity, the market order ate through the bids in the order book
[2016-12-24 13:06:19] Coconuter : ye well just 10 thousands dollars
[2016-12-24 13:06:25] Coconuter : not a big thing right
[2016-12-24 13:06:27] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-24 13:06:44] ett1 : its your fault, you could have seen the depth if thats the case
[2016-12-24 13:07:04] ett1 : was the book thin
[2016-12-24 13:07:11] Coconuter : the order book was full man
[2016-12-24 13:07:16] Coconuter : it had over my amount closed
[2016-12-24 13:07:22] Coconuter : on the first positions
[2016-12-24 13:07:23] mariomarco : fault or no fault, you can imagine how he feels, lets just understand him
[2016-12-24 13:07:47] ett1 : ye but also how btimex staff feels if hes asking for comp
[2016-12-24 13:08:20] anonymous789 : 6400 again
[2016-12-24 13:08:29] Rado : mariomarco: agreed
[2016-12-24 13:08:39] mariomarco : well, i think his history show that he is a competent trader and that this is not his fault to the best of his knowledge
[2016-12-24 13:08:58] Coconuter : sure just tricked by the system
[2016-12-24 13:09:04] Coconuter : they show liquidity but it aint there
[2016-12-24 13:09:08] Coconuter : watch out people
[2016-12-24 13:09:22] ett1 : sorry if i sounded harsh. i dont know him but symnaphetic too
[2016-12-24 13:09:34] gdog : that is why i use only limit orders
[2016-12-24 13:10:18] gdog : had it happen to me once and i know it from the hard way
[2016-12-24 13:10:18] BitMEX_Wally : Coconuter: Look at the API call I pasted, that shows the historical bids at that time.
[2016-12-24 13:10:36] mariomarco : im just looking at the chart how, how is it possible that it just dropped 140$
[2016-12-24 13:10:38] mariomarco : in the hole
[2016-12-24 13:11:12] mariomarco : is it possible that the market fell through that much in that precise moment for him?
[2016-12-24 13:11:35] aethlios : a trader who has a clue about what he is doing is always using limit orders, market means panic and loss of control. You always have to be in control.
[2016-12-24 13:11:43] BitMEX_Wally : I think that the market makers weren't quoting around that time so the spread was wide
[2016-12-24 13:11:58] mariomarco : 140$ wide?! :O
[2016-12-24 13:12:16] immackay : mariomarco: yeah I mean it does look weird
[2016-12-24 13:12:31] ett1 : market orders are ok for entry but not exits
[2016-12-24 13:12:31] mariomarco : immackay: its not weird its goddamn spooky :D
[2016-12-24 13:13:11] BitMEX_Wally : At the time XBCZ16 was 15% wide because the market makers weren't quoting for some reason. But it had been 15% wide for at least 10 minutes
[2016-12-24 13:15:01] ett1 : BitMEX_Wally: think is there a chance bitmex could be leading the move (rather than stamp)?
[2016-12-24 13:15:22] BitMEX_Wally : ett1: Certainly possible as we have the most volume
[2016-12-24 13:15:54] ett1 : thanks, makes sense
[2016-12-24 13:16:29] BTCDJS : aethlios: ??
[2016-12-24 13:16:30] immackay : BitMEX_Wally: in the api stats you linked, it says at 12:33:39 the bidprice was 5500, then at 12:33:43 the bid price was 5336, that seems mighty weird
[2016-12-24 13:16:31] Coconuter : yep the market fell just for me
[2016-12-24 13:16:56] Coconuter : the orders where there showing
[2016-12-24 13:17:03] Coconuter : on the first bids would cover all my sell
[2016-12-24 13:17:07] Coconuter : im not crazy
[2016-12-24 13:17:10] BitMEX_Wally : immackay: That was his order hitting the bids
[2016-12-24 13:17:16] anonymous789 : looks like we could be forming some kind 200 cny channel between 6400 and 6600
[2016-12-24 13:17:24] Coconuter : that bot is always there
[2016-12-24 13:17:43] immackay : BitMEX_Wally: ah, so he sold at a price of 5500? or 5336?
[2016-12-24 13:17:48] Rado : when you hit a bid the bot will adjust the next bid based on some logic
[2016-12-24 13:17:51] ett1 : did the first bids get executed, then the market saw this and removed orders (knowing there was a seller)
[2016-12-24 13:18:01] Coconuter : yes the first where executed
[2016-12-24 13:18:05] Coconuter : on the price
[2016-12-24 13:18:11] Coconuter : the others the bot automaticly removed the bids
[2016-12-24 13:18:22] BitMEX_Wally : ett1: No orders were cancelled or removed
[2016-12-24 13:18:24] immackay : Coconuter: oh, yeah, that's the way it works
[2016-12-24 13:18:28] Coconuter : and bought lower at 5550
[2016-12-24 13:18:31] ett1 : this seems normal to me
[2016-12-24 13:18:53] immackay : once the first bids get executed the bot will change to account for it
[2016-12-24 13:19:19] immackay : since it was pretty much just you and the bot, it likely just kept plunging
[2016-12-24 13:19:23] ett1 : imagine you have an order 2nd in the queue. you see some action close to your order. you can cancel it at any time
[2016-12-24 13:19:44] BitMEX_Wally : His market orders hit all these bids atomically: 1000 at 5500.2, 15000 at 5500.1, 2000 at 5500, 15000 at 5470, 10 at 5451.9, 50 at 5421, 15000 at 5412.4, 1940 at 5336.7
[2016-12-24 13:19:50] ett1 : you can pull you orders, just like somone pull theirs when they saw your orders coming
[2016-12-24 13:20:14] immackay : BitMEX_Wally: yeah, that seems like the bot was just accounting with the lower priced bids
[2016-12-24 13:20:44] immackay : that's why bots will make a spread of 1000 at the highest price, 5000 at a lower price, etc
[2016-12-24 13:20:51] immackay : so they can catch you
[2016-12-24 13:20:56] BitMEX_Wally : In order for a bot to pull orders he would have had to placed a limit order that didn't get filled and rested in the book, and then the market makers could pull bids below it..
[2016-12-24 13:21:21] Rado : correct
[2016-12-24 13:21:38] Rado : bot doesn't change orders if there is no movement on the price
[2016-12-24 13:22:19] BitMEX_Wally : BitMEX orders books match on a price then time priority, and all matching is atomic so no-one can react and pull orders
[2016-12-24 13:22:20] immackay : so a bot wouldn't pull orders on a market order?
[2016-12-24 13:23:00] immackay : so what were all the open bids at that time? is there any way to know?
[2016-12-24 13:23:08] narnarfromnarnia : for stops do you guys use Last for trigger?
[2016-12-24 13:23:16] narnarfromnarnia : say i want to set a stop at 880
[2016-12-24 13:23:19] immackay : ett1: did you email me yet
[2016-12-24 13:23:24] narnarfromnarnia : close on trigger?
[2016-12-24 13:23:44] BitMEX_Wally : immackay: No-one can pull orders until after the market order has executed
[2016-12-24 13:24:21] immackay : Ah okay so only a limit order would cause that sort of behavior?
[2016-12-24 13:24:23] Rado : narnarfromnarnia: I use last
[2016-12-24 13:24:31] micmix : The best bid was 5500 as Wally said, I bet he didn't look at the orderbook and just placed the market order
[2016-12-24 13:24:50] immackay : I'm just wondering what the orderbook was at the time
[2016-12-24 13:24:56] BitMEX_Wally : immackay: You can look at the /quote API end point for the historical best bid. We do not publish historical depth but I have the data from the raw orders people submit
[2016-12-24 13:25:11] immackay : BitMEX_Wally: I'm far too lazy to do that
[2016-12-24 13:25:18] Rado : immackay: lol
[2016-12-24 13:25:22] Rado : lets move on
[2016-12-24 13:25:27] Rado : we all feel for his loss
[2016-12-24 13:27:35] anonymous789 : https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
[2016-12-24 13:27:38] anonymous789 : buyers loading up
[2016-12-24 13:41:16] m3s : much sideways
[2016-12-24 13:41:47] anonymous789 : sideways could be a good thing
[2016-12-24 13:42:23] crmun : BitMEX_Sam: are you here?
[2016-12-24 13:42:31] ett1 : the longer it goes sideways the bigger it moves when it does
[2016-12-24 13:43:11] anonymous789 : looks like a 15-20 dollar channel if it goes back up now
[2016-12-24 13:55:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 3000 @ 6351.2
[2016-12-24 13:57:15] shery : seems like btc wanna gow lower
[2016-12-24 13:58:15] Rado : shery: It just seem that way
[2016-12-24 13:58:22] Rado : ;-)
[2016-12-24 13:58:42] shery : Rado: it did dumped in past few hours lol
[2016-12-24 13:58:56] Rado : true
[2016-12-24 13:58:58] anonymous789 : 10pm in china
[2016-12-24 13:59:04] Rado : look at a little bigger picture
[2016-12-24 13:59:35] Rado : the correction is small compared to how much it went up
[2016-12-24 13:59:52] Rado : anonymous789: which side are you trading now?
[2016-12-24 14:00:01] anonymous789 : long
[2016-12-24 14:00:05] Rado : cool
[2016-12-24 14:00:10] anonymous789 : you?
[2016-12-24 14:00:29] Rado : I have some March contracts
[2016-12-24 14:00:39] Rado : just started my new MM bot
[2016-12-24 14:00:43] Rado : yesterday
[2016-12-24 14:00:47] Rado : wish me luck :-)
[2016-12-24 14:00:53] anonymous789 : cool good luck
[2016-12-24 14:00:56] anonymous789 : long?
[2016-12-24 14:01:05] Rado : on MArch yes
[2016-12-24 14:01:08] anonymous789 : cool
[2016-12-24 14:01:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 5000 @ 6343.3
[2016-12-24 14:01:36] Rado : look at funding
[2016-12-24 14:01:46] aaaaa : yeah
[2016-12-24 14:01:47] Rado : 0.21 % and then next period -0.11
[2016-12-24 14:01:59] aaaaa : next period is streching
[2016-12-24 14:02:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2300 @ 888.36
[2016-12-24 14:02:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 888.31
[2016-12-24 14:03:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 13450 @ 887.38
[2016-12-24 14:03:02] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2016-12-24 14:03:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 30000 @ 885.80
[2016-12-24 14:03:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 58008 @ 886.05 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-24 14:03:22] immackay : lmao
[2016-12-24 14:03:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1060 @ 882.73
[2016-12-24 14:04:21] medpex : uhh
[2016-12-24 14:04:35] ett1 : bearstamp ruins it again
[2016-12-24 14:05:00] ett1 : i think bitmex is leading this bull run if it wont shake
[2016-12-24 14:05:55] rapidtrades : CRASH
[2016-12-24 14:05:57] rapidtrades : CRASHHH
[2016-12-24 14:06:20] rapidtrades : IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD
[2016-12-24 14:06:44] arbitrage001 : wtf
[2016-12-24 14:06:52] arbitrage001 : we were so close to 1000
[2016-12-24 14:06:55] immackay : rapidtrades: I missed you
[2016-12-24 14:07:00] anonymous789 : bounce
[2016-12-24 14:07:13] m3s : ow shit, buy the dip
[2016-12-24 14:07:30] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: how low ya reckon mate?
[2016-12-24 14:07:59] immackay : BTCDJS: shhh, bitcoin never retraces
[2016-12-24 14:08:07] rapidtrades : $100 TODAY
[2016-12-24 14:08:18] Rado : yeah it looks really bad from $780 to $880
[2016-12-24 14:08:33] immackay : rapidtrades: that's the spirit
[2016-12-24 14:08:36] Rado : rapidtrades: none sense
[2016-12-24 14:08:47] Rado : talking out of your ass
[2016-12-24 14:08:58] shery : dump is rel get out guys
[2016-12-24 14:09:04] immackay : Rado: have you two not met?
[2016-12-24 14:09:16] rapidtrades : I meant we'll dump to $100
[2016-12-24 14:09:20] rapidtrades : TODAY
[2016-12-24 14:09:26] mariomarco : shakeout #29080
[2016-12-24 14:09:27] Rado : not yet
[2016-12-24 14:10:02] immackay : Rado: @rapidtrades takes "trollbox" to heart
[2016-12-24 14:10:17] Rado : immackay: oh you mean met on the chat
[2016-12-24 14:10:24] Rado : yes we know each other
[2016-12-24 14:10:34] immackay : rapidtrades: did you short yesterday?
[2016-12-24 14:10:34] Rado : I haven't meet him in person yet :-)
[2016-12-24 14:10:51] immackay : good on you if you did
[2016-12-24 14:10:58] immackay : looks like this baby is riding down for a while
[2016-12-24 14:11:20] crmun : BitMEX_Wally: can i block any withdrawals from my account? i had some suspicious activity on my phone today
[2016-12-24 14:11:30] Rado : every dump it's just buying opportunity
[2016-12-24 14:11:45] gdog : i got some at the low
[2016-12-24 14:11:56] Rado : crmun: you have to approve each withdrawal
[2016-12-24 14:12:04] Rado : by eamail
[2016-12-24 14:12:13] crmun : by email?
[2016-12-24 14:12:17] crmun : for sure?
[2016-12-24 14:12:19] Rado : you have lots of time to react since the withdrawal is only once per day
[2016-12-24 14:12:25] Rado : I love this future
[2016-12-24 14:12:29] Rado : yes 100%
[2016-12-24 14:12:30] ett1 : ye got 880.01 filled :) @gdog
[2016-12-24 14:12:48] mariomarco : ett1: gj bro
[2016-12-24 14:12:48] rapidtrades : thats not thwelow
[2016-12-24 14:12:51] paniktrade : zhit guys buy the dip before okcoin does
[2016-12-24 14:12:51] crmun : i know but its xmas so i will spend lot of time afk
[2016-12-24 14:13:04] Rado : rapidtrades: what is the low?
[2016-12-24 14:13:06] Rado : educate us
[2016-12-24 14:13:25] ett1 : hit me
[2016-12-24 14:13:35] Rado : crmun: if they hacked your BitMEX accoutn and your email then you are in trouble
[2016-12-24 14:13:45] rapidtrades : < 740
[2016-12-24 14:14:04] Rado : rapidtrades: I will bet you 1 BTC that it will not go there
[2016-12-24 14:14:05] crmun : Rado: you will never know until it is done
[2016-12-24 14:14:30] Rado : crmun: do you have 2FA on your account?
[2016-12-24 14:14:45] immackay : if it doesn't jump within two hours I'd say it's going to 850ish territory
[2016-12-24 14:14:46] crmun : yes. on fkn phone
[2016-12-24 14:15:07] Rado : immackay: 850 seems reasonable
[2016-12-24 14:15:24] rapidtrades : this is the last dip buying b4 doom
[2016-12-24 14:15:32] rapidtrades : buyers will be overwhelmed soon
[2016-12-24 14:16:14] immackay : lowest it can go is 800 barring any serious whales selling off but I'd say 830 is a reasonable minimum
[2016-12-24 14:16:20] Rado : rapidtrades: what happened with you
[2016-12-24 14:16:33] Rado : became more negative than ususal
[2016-12-24 14:16:34] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-24 14:16:52] ett1 : Rado: he just fallows whatever the last 4hr is doing
[2016-12-24 14:16:57] ett1 : and trolls the opposite
[2016-12-24 14:16:59] immackay : but yeah 850 is my bet, then back up to 880
[2016-12-24 14:18:10] immackay : then a slow decline to between 840-860 by jan 6
[2016-12-24 14:18:38] rapidtrades : there is no slow anymore, vol is too high
[2016-12-24 14:18:39] shery : I think we will go lower
[2016-12-24 14:18:42] Rado : immackay: or a slow climb to $1000
[2016-12-24 14:18:49] shery : 870 here
[2016-12-24 14:18:51] rapidtrades : either 100 up or dwon
[2016-12-24 14:19:01] Rado : rapidtrades: there you go
[2016-12-24 14:19:08] ett1 : bounce to 870 then 940
[2016-12-24 14:19:12] ett1 : then 900 then 1000
[2016-12-24 14:19:13] Rado : now you are making more sense
[2016-12-24 14:19:14] immackay : rapidtrades: doesn't higher volume make the price more stable
[2016-12-24 14:19:15] ett1 : then ATH
[2016-12-24 14:19:41] ett1 : bitmex holding better than anyone
[2016-12-24 14:20:46] rapidtrades : immackay: ceteris paribus , right niw no
[2016-12-24 14:21:46] shery : I am out for a while
[2016-12-24 14:22:09] immackay : rapidtrades: I suppose yeah
[2016-12-24 14:36:05] anonymous789 : pretty solid engulfing candle on the 15min
[2016-12-24 14:36:11] anonymous789 : cny
[2016-12-24 14:36:49] shery : anonymous789: no volume
[2016-12-24 14:37:02] anonymous789 : this is true
[2016-12-24 14:37:20] ett1 : anonymous789: higher low if it doesnt break lower
[2016-12-24 14:37:25] anonymous789 : actually the englufing candle had higher volume
[2016-12-24 14:37:31] anonymous789 : the small dip right now has no volume
[2016-12-24 14:37:58] anonymous789 : 15min of course
[2016-12-24 14:38:05] anonymous789 : hourly is not much volume either way
[2016-12-24 14:38:22] anonymous789 : ett1: indeed
[2016-12-24 14:38:29] anonymous789 : 880 seems pretty crucial
[2016-12-24 14:38:30] shery : anonymous789: There is no volume from start
[2016-12-24 14:38:41] shery : On todays drop
[2016-12-24 14:39:00] shery : If 880 is broken it will go way lwer
[2016-12-24 14:39:08] anonymous789 : shery: yeah not much volume today at all
[2016-12-24 14:39:12] anonymous789 : be worse tomorrrow i guess
[2016-12-24 14:39:52] ett1 : anonymous789: on the 30min its a hammer
[2016-12-24 14:39:58] ett1 : the 2 15min candles
[2016-12-24 14:40:11] ett1 : reversal pattern esp with the trend
[2016-12-24 14:40:28] ett1 : i think a shakeout of 990 & 890s
[2016-12-24 14:40:50] ett1 : bitmex maybe leading the move its got the highest volu
[2016-12-24 14:41:09] anonymous789 : ett1: let's see what happens at the SMA on the bollinger bands
[2016-12-24 14:44:03] JuriFX : It's quite concerning that price even came back to retest almost the extreme (deep retrace) of that higher low (874). A strong trend with bulls wouldn't have let the bears take it so far... We'll see
[2016-12-24 14:44:49] JuriFX : There was some buying at 888 but it was short lived
[2016-12-24 14:45:09] JuriFX : now last chance for bulls to defend it
[2016-12-24 14:46:34] JuriFX : if 874 breaks then there's nothing to stop them till 864
[2016-12-24 14:48:05] ett1 : looks like strength to me
[2016-12-24 14:48:17] ett1 : 890 resistance
[2016-12-24 14:48:23] shery : Still no vlume in buying
[2016-12-24 14:48:46] anonymous789 : breaking a little minor downtrend line on 15min cny
[2016-12-24 14:49:13] anonymous789 : approaching that 15min cny SMA too
[2016-12-24 14:49:41] ett1 : ye im watching the SMA too
[2016-12-24 14:49:50] anonymous789 : needs to get on the other side of that SMA
[2016-12-24 14:49:53] ett1 : and this hourly candle forms
[2016-12-24 14:50:30] ett1 : but volatility has picked up i think if theres is a move back above 900 we are going to 1k
[2016-12-24 14:50:43] ett1 : probably not if this doesnt hold
[2016-12-24 14:50:57] anonymous789 : 6600 is going to be major resistance now i think
[2016-12-24 14:50:57] ett1 : a bit too much excitement about the holiday
[2016-12-24 14:54:50] anonymous789 : USD is struggling much more to go higher in value than the cny
[2016-12-24 14:55:26] anonymous789 : bearstamp being stupid
[2016-12-24 14:57:06] l3f : fakeout after fakeout
[2016-12-24 14:57:08] l3f : are we learning yet?
[2016-12-24 14:57:32] shery : l3f: Big dump???
[2016-12-24 14:57:47] ett1 : nobody ever leanrs from history. always repeating the same mistakes
[2016-12-24 14:58:00] gdog : i thinking same or higher for a bit
[2016-12-24 14:58:02] l3f : shery: i will explain this one more time
[2016-12-24 14:58:13] l3f : if you still don't get it then you can't be helped
[2016-12-24 14:58:23] l3f : weak hands needs to be shaken out
[2016-12-24 14:58:35] l3f : it looks like it's going down
[2016-12-24 14:58:40] l3f : whales will step on your balls
[2016-12-24 14:58:41] ett1 : things dont go up in a straight line
[2016-12-24 14:58:45] ett1 : they zig zag
[2016-12-24 14:58:53] l3f : if you cry, you shake, you fear, you dump
[2016-12-24 14:58:56] l3f : they buy the dip
[2016-12-24 14:58:59] l3f : you're out
[2016-12-24 14:59:22] l3f : If it is not clear to you why this happens
[2016-12-24 14:59:28] l3f : I'm not going to explain further
[2016-12-24 15:00:11] shery : l3f: ah so thats what you wann say
[2016-12-24 15:01:04] l3f : when they exit, they can exit during pumps
[2016-12-24 15:01:13] l3f : they can exit with a huge dump (so big that you won't see it coming)
[2016-12-24 15:01:20] l3f : certainly not 1 usd per minute slow
[2016-12-24 15:01:31] l3f : they don't pull this slow shit
[2016-12-24 15:01:44] l3f : to exit their massive positions
[2016-12-24 15:01:49] l3f : there's mo volume in these dumps
[2016-12-24 15:01:49] shery : l3f: Nice explanation
[2016-12-24 15:01:53] l3f : no*
[2016-12-24 15:02:15] l3f : but you know
[2016-12-24 15:02:25] l3f : I'm not perfect and my interpetation may be fucked
[2016-12-24 15:02:37] l3f : sleger might dump just to pop a cap in my ass
[2016-12-24 15:02:37] shery : l3f: so what you say when we are heading back above 900 ?
[2016-12-24 15:02:44] l3f : shery: give it another 4 hours
[2016-12-24 15:03:38] l3f : western whale pumped too early, china whale wasn't ready yet, so he's doing this to get back in
[2016-12-24 15:06:21] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/xvDD5FiZ/
[2016-12-24 15:06:42] aethlios : yan premium steadily up, china get's in the game.
[2016-12-24 15:07:17] l3f : aethlios: I pray to fucking god that I'm right
[2016-12-24 15:07:27] l3f : based jesus
[2016-12-24 15:07:34] l3f : haha
[2016-12-24 15:07:45] ett1 : yes i want my yacht
[2016-12-24 15:08:01] l3f : ett1: sleger's on his seventh now
[2016-12-24 15:08:40] aethlios : l3f: i agree with you above analysis
[2016-12-24 15:08:42] anonymous789 : nice breakout above the SMA on the 15min
[2016-12-24 15:09:39] Angelika : l3f: it's not about being right all the time. It's more about managing risk and position size
[2016-12-24 15:09:43] Angelika : profits will come
[2016-12-24 15:10:19] l3f : Angelika: Hi Rado, of course
[2016-12-24 15:10:40] ett1 : its about patence, timing & going balls to the wall with leverage when at a point well never go bac below
[2016-12-24 15:10:52] ett1 : then adding more and more with profits
[2016-12-24 15:10:54] aethlios : Angelika: in other words managing fear and greed, so it is a road to self improvement. trading makes you a better person.
[2016-12-24 15:11:08] abz : aethlios: on your chart volumes are declining and there is a bearish MFI divergence
[2016-12-24 15:11:16] l3f : aethlios: it's enabling my gambling addiction
[2016-12-24 15:11:22] ett1 : take care of your greed & the fear takes care of itself
[2016-12-24 15:11:34] l3f : for ya TA fucks, divergence on bitstamp hourly graph