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[2016-12-23 23:57:48] Coconuter : china is preparing the lubrificant
[2016-12-23 23:58:14] BitMEX_Sam : So to simply answer your question: you won't be liquidated at a funding boundary.
[2016-12-23 23:59:12] brouk : BitMEX_Sam: i see, so the future funding is already calculated in my position right?
[2016-12-23 23:59:15] BitMEX_Sam : Right
[2016-12-23 23:59:20] brouk : BitMEX_Sam: thanks
[2016-12-23 23:59:39] BitMEX_Sam : We created this method so that there is not the chance of a rash of liquidations right at funding
[2016-12-23 23:59:52] l3f : this would have been a decent track without the stupid human noises
[2016-12-23 23:59:53] l3f : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzKzPLL6upU
[2016-12-23 23:59:57] l3f : smh
[2016-12-24 00:01:56] sleger : This has the huge inconvenience of limiting the funding rate
[2016-12-24 00:02:09] sleger : and therefore the tracking ability of the market to the index price
[2016-12-24 00:03:04] l3f : why cap the funding rate at all?
[2016-12-24 00:03:05] sleger : Maintenance margin does not cover for the 10+$ difference that was there. Not close
[2016-12-24 00:03:16] sleger : l3f: he just explained it dummy
[2016-12-24 00:03:47] l3f : no you can cap the movement
[2016-12-24 00:03:57] l3f : as in max 0.3% movement
[2016-12-24 00:04:08] sleger : Yes but that is not the case here
[2016-12-24 00:04:22] l3f : I know that's what I'm asking, why hard cap instead of floating?
[2016-12-24 00:04:26] sleger : then you end up with a huge bid wall and no trade no volume no fees
[2016-12-24 00:05:01] l3f : sleger: how would you fix it?
[2016-12-24 00:05:03] sleger : the cap in funding is a consequence of the maintenance margin having to cover for funding
[2016-12-24 00:05:24] sleger : i have solutions i would be happy to sell them
[2016-12-24 00:05:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 137 @ 0.007710
[2016-12-24 00:06:25] mjones : when people cant trade swap they come to march 31 futures and jack up the premium
[2016-12-24 00:07:24] mjones : at 2.6 million open contracts and still have a week for old futures to settle and then that money needs to go somewhere :)
[2016-12-24 00:08:43] l3f : mjones: all they do is make the spread bigger
[2016-12-24 00:09:11] mjones : till main market maker adjusts
[2016-12-24 00:09:21] mjones : premium went $45 to $68 and spread isnt too bad now
[2016-12-24 00:09:59] MikeHunt : Do you guys think we'll see a small correction in Bitcoin or massive peak then collapse?
[2016-12-24 00:10:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: sell 10 @ 0.054506
[2016-12-24 00:10:18] mjones : massive peak then collapse like the other times it has happened
[2016-12-24 00:13:06] tommygunn : collapse from new ath, that number is unknown
[2016-12-24 00:13:41] tommygunn : 1-10000l
[2016-12-24 00:13:50] tommygunn : k
[2016-12-24 00:18:39] MikeHunt : Are you guys long or short at the moment?
[2016-12-24 00:20:07] mjones : both
[2016-12-24 00:20:09] mjones : that way i cant lose
[2016-12-24 00:21:19] BitMEX_Sam : Bulletproof logic
[2016-12-24 00:23:44] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: short for a short time
[2016-12-24 00:23:54] narnarfromnarnia : but this is could easily hit 1k
[2016-12-24 00:25:41] rapidtrades : 'easily'
[2016-12-24 00:25:46] MikeHunt : PBOC in China said they are developing their own digital currency apparently
[2016-12-24 00:25:55] MikeHunt : thats the only solution i see to China's currency problems
[2016-12-24 00:26:22] MikeHunt : since ~90% of transactions from China
[2016-12-24 00:26:29] MikeHunt : this could effect bitcoin imo
[2016-12-24 00:31:02] mjones : well btc whales gotta pump the price in order to sell their BTC they accumulated last 3 years
[2016-12-24 00:34:12] imapotato : Will we see ATH first or significant correction ($100 drop) first?
[2016-12-24 00:35:15] m3s : 1000 than 900 than 1000+ imo
[2016-12-24 00:35:37] imapotato : But you used than instead of then. Can I trust you?
[2016-12-24 00:35:56] m3s : pardon my ingrish
[2016-12-24 00:35:59] MikeHunt : lol
[2016-12-24 00:36:08] Coconuter : ten
[2016-12-24 00:36:13] mjones : 6946 cny = 1000 usd. but if you want bitfinex to hit 1000 usd then china will be at like 7300 cny
[2016-12-24 00:36:43] narnarfromnarnia : anyone trading bitmex usd?
[2016-12-24 00:36:51] mjones : 7995 cny is okcoin ATH
[2016-12-24 00:36:52] narnarfromnarnia : have a chart with some good support lines?
[2016-12-24 00:36:59] MikeHunt : near a peak we tend to get exchange failure, then it plumets
[2016-12-24 00:37:12] MikeHunt : for chart predictions i use TradingView
[2016-12-24 00:37:13] narnarfromnarnia : support resistance is where on this thing?
[2016-12-24 00:37:26] MikeHunt : probably around 7000
[2016-12-24 00:37:30] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: nice do you have a chart
[2016-12-24 00:37:33] narnarfromnarnia : in USD?
[2016-12-24 00:37:36] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: short it to zero
[2016-12-24 00:37:36] l3f : the only way
[2016-12-24 00:37:40] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-24 00:37:47] narnarfromnarnia : i've done well with the shorts
[2016-12-24 00:37:51] narnarfromnarnia : and not well
[2016-12-24 00:37:56] narnarfromnarnia : yeah
[2016-12-24 00:37:59] l3f : keep shorting
[2016-12-24 00:38:14] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: Well I am probably not best to ask since i was a bear and got slaughtered
[2016-12-24 00:38:34] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: i just shorted earlier no problem with that
[2016-12-24 00:38:39] narnarfromnarnia : did not expect this leg up so fast
[2016-12-24 00:39:15] narnarfromnarnia : someone dump into that 54k
[2016-12-24 00:39:19] narnarfromnarnia : 924
[2016-12-24 00:39:39] MikeHunt : its a bit like with the stock market at the moment, technical analysis seems to have gone out the window
[2016-12-24 00:39:46] MikeHunt : i forgot to factor in china
[2016-12-24 00:40:35] Hawkeye : can someone simple explain the deleverage bars and why mine might be running up (is it bad? i am in profit and have enough margin)
[2016-12-24 00:40:44] Hawkeye : simply not simple ;)
[2016-12-24 00:40:51] narnarfromnarnia : waiting for next 15m candle to short or not
[2016-12-24 00:40:52] BitMEX_Sam : Hawkeye: It's okay - click the bars for more details
[2016-12-24 00:41:01] narnarfromnarnia : is that a bad strategy lol
[2016-12-24 00:41:10] Hawkeye : BitMEX_Sam: i did and not sure i understand :)
[2016-12-24 00:41:18] BitMEX_Sam : It's a priority system for what will happen if losses on a liquidation are so high that the system needs to exit a position to compensate.
[2016-12-24 00:41:36] Hawkeye : ah ok so unless a crash appears there is no influence on it
[2016-12-24 00:42:04] Hawkeye : thnx
[2016-12-24 00:42:08] BitMEX_Sam : No problem
[2016-12-24 00:42:37] flux : When i close my position does it close it at mark price of spot price?
[2016-12-24 00:42:46] Hawkeye : guess i better make less profit to be noticed less by the system... the system is watching you everywhere.... <puts tin foil on>
[2016-12-24 00:42:52] Hawkeye : ;)
[2016-12-24 00:42:59] flux : or *
[2016-12-24 00:43:27] Hawkeye : flux: think it closes on whatever bid is there
[2016-12-24 00:43:37] Hawkeye : could be way over or under spot
[2016-12-24 00:43:56] flux : I mean, my position shows mark price
[2016-12-24 00:44:03] flux : for my PNL
[2016-12-24 00:44:10] Hawkeye : yes but sales are done on other ppls bids
[2016-12-24 00:44:21] Hawkeye : so it could be better/worse then pnl shows
[2016-12-24 00:44:32] flux : if I market close does it close on mark price or spot?
[2016-12-24 00:44:46] Hawkeye : so best case you buy 10 under spot and sell 10 over spot and bag the extra 20
[2016-12-24 00:44:52] Hawkeye : (if i unerstand correctly)
[2016-12-24 00:44:54] flux : Yeah but mark price shows 918 right now and spot is 925
[2016-12-24 00:45:06] BitMEX_Wally : flux: If you close using a limit order it closes at the limit price, if you close using a market order it depends on the order book
[2016-12-24 00:45:22] flux : so what is mark price for?
[2016-12-24 00:45:33] Hawkeye : it'll eat the bids/asks till you are done (market can be expensive)
[2016-12-24 00:45:46] Hawkeye : to prevent to be liquadated too quickly
[2016-12-24 00:46:07] narnarfromnarnia : BitMEX_Wally: how is the unrealized PNL based? the mark price or actual price and orders on books if market close?
[2016-12-24 00:46:07] Hawkeye : its the price they calculate is safe to hold even if bids are lower
[2016-12-24 00:46:29] narnarfromnarnia : are the fees here higher than other exchanges?
[2016-12-24 00:46:29] Hawkeye : once you liqidate you will eat bids again though
[2016-12-24 00:47:02] Hawkeye : narnarfromnarnia: limit is cheaper, you get money market buys is a bit more then others afaik
[2016-12-24 00:47:12] Hawkeye : -0,025 vs 0,075 on btc
[2016-12-24 00:48:16] narnarfromnarnia : .025 is limit on orderbook xbtusd?
[2016-12-24 00:48:35] Hawkeye : negative 0,025 % yes
[2016-12-24 00:48:47] BitMEX_Sam : narnarfromnarnia: UPL is based on mark price
[2016-12-24 00:48:50] Hawkeye : click on REFERENCES > Fees
[2016-12-24 00:49:05] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, our fees are quite competitive, especially for makers
[2016-12-24 00:49:13] Hawkeye : love the maker fees ;)
[2016-12-24 00:49:20] narnarfromnarnia : okay mark price is considerably lower than current price though
[2016-12-24 00:49:27] narnarfromnarnia : got it thanks
[2016-12-24 00:49:42] Hawkeye : narnarfromnarnia: means they calculate there is a certain risk so its lower
[2016-12-24 00:50:39] justinlooking : Hawkeye: realising some profit and putting position back on moves you backwards in adl queue
[2016-12-24 00:50:42] BitMEX_Sam : No, mark price is just based on the indices
[2016-12-24 00:50:59] BitMEX_Sam : We're trading above the indices because there is significant positive sentiment.
[2016-12-24 00:51:07] justinlooking : always be trading ;)
[2016-12-24 00:51:34] Hawkeye : justinlooking: thnx ;) but its a nice one to hold (got sell orders booked in already)
[2016-12-24 00:51:48] Hawkeye : you guys just need to raise the price enough so they get hit so get buying !
[2016-12-24 00:51:50] mjones : china dont dump. too soon
[2016-12-24 00:53:48] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: what do you guys think about higher discount for bulk API calls? 3x or 4x instead of 2x?
[2016-12-24 00:54:01] BitMEX_Sam : miramm1115: That's a possibility - are you hitting your limits?
[2016-12-24 00:54:31] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: yeah, had to reduce how many per side I'm quoting
[2016-12-24 00:54:55] mjones : i was the maker earlier. that's how i gained some btc :) usually I'm a market buying and selling madman
[2016-12-24 00:54:59] BitMEX_Sam : Ah that's not great - this account or another one? If you don't want to share that in public feel free to send an email and we'll take care of you
[2016-12-24 00:55:12] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: will send an email
[2016-12-24 00:55:16] BitMEX_Sam : :+1:
[2016-12-24 00:57:02] zanza : https://s24.postimg.org/r4jyj0rdh/ethcrash.png
[2016-12-24 00:57:46] zanza : .375% cioming up!
[2016-12-24 00:58:23] mjones : yeah buddy. longers will get a nice christmas surprise
[2016-12-24 00:58:52] mjones : and yeah that eth whale is holding down the price to get a few more orders filled before it goes back up to a billion dollar market cap
[2016-12-24 00:59:14] MikeHunt : can i see market depth on bitmex?
[2016-12-24 01:00:24] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: email sent
[2016-12-24 01:00:27] justinlooking : MikeHunt: you mean the orderbook/
[2016-12-24 01:00:51] MikeHunt : the way zanza had it in his picture
[2016-12-24 01:01:28] zanza : i think advanced layout wiill do it
[2016-12-24 01:02:10] justinlooking : well orderbook has it in price column, just oriented differently
[2016-12-24 01:02:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 8000 @ 6554.5
[2016-12-24 01:03:13] mjones : MikeHunt: just click the arrow next to the gear icon on the top right of the orderbook
[2016-12-24 01:03:20] mjones : i think that's the best we got
[2016-12-24 01:03:57] mjones : because that picture was from poloniex
[2016-12-24 01:04:03] MikeHunt : thats just makes it bigger?
[2016-12-24 01:04:10] mjones : you can see all the orders though
[2016-12-24 01:04:19] narnarfromnarnia : BitMEX_Sam: why does the mark price keep changing?
[2016-12-24 01:04:43] BitMEX_Sam : narnarfromnarnia: Because it is based on other Bitcoin exchanges, which keep changing in price
[2016-12-24 01:04:55] BitMEX_Sam : See http://bitmex.kaiko.com/
[2016-12-24 01:06:12] arbitrage001 : Good morning, fellow trolls
[2016-12-24 01:06:19] arbitrage001 : how is everyone doing
[2016-12-24 01:06:25] arbitrage001 : getting fuber rich?
[2016-12-24 01:06:55] imapotato : Decent
[2016-12-24 01:07:29] MikeHunt : so do you think Eth is going to go up once that whale gets out the way?
[2016-12-24 01:07:35] imapotato : Wish we had NMC derivatives, but BTCUSD will work
[2016-12-24 01:08:19] mjones : BitMEX_Sam: so okcoin price is from okcoin.com usd?
[2016-12-24 01:08:41] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2016-12-24 01:09:02] mjones : oh shit. i just got spezed
[2016-12-24 01:09:58] l3f : arbitrage001: getting there
[2016-12-24 01:14:59] narnarfromnarnia : getting sell heavy on bfx - https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
[2016-12-24 01:15:31] arbitrage001 : narnarfromnarnia: care to explain what those number mean
[2016-12-24 01:15:52] narnarfromnarnia : arbitrage001: usually when i see heavy on either direction
[2016-12-24 01:15:59] narnarfromnarnia : things can go in either direction
[2016-12-24 01:15:59] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-24 01:16:17] arbitrage001 : then those number are meaningless
[2016-12-24 01:16:49] narnarfromnarnia : more sale positions open than buy?
[2016-12-24 01:16:55] narnarfromnarnia : i think any and all data is useful
[2016-12-24 01:17:37] immackay : as usual, I go to sleep and lose money
[2016-12-24 01:17:49] arbitrage001 : immackay: you shorted?
[2016-12-24 01:17:49] immackay : just shoot me already
[2016-12-24 01:18:09] narnarfromnarnia : immackay: sorry to hear man
[2016-12-24 01:18:12] arbitrage001 : well iwent to bed, price went down to 876
[2016-12-24 01:18:22] immackay : arbitrage001: I had a long back at 905 with a stop loss at 900 to protect from the dumo
[2016-12-24 01:18:24] arbitrage001 : expect to get fill at 868 but didnt
[2016-12-24 01:18:24] immackay : dump
[2016-12-24 01:18:36] arbitrage001 : immackay: you get liquidated?
[2016-12-24 01:18:55] immackay : arbitrage001: nah it just triggered my stop loss
[2016-12-24 01:19:01] immackay : still pissed though
[2016-12-24 01:19:16] immackay : somehow I've managed to lose money on every trade the last two days
[2016-12-24 01:19:30] immackay : after a day of glorious returns
[2016-12-24 01:19:41] arbitrage001 : leverage traders get slaughtered regardless of market condition
[2016-12-24 01:19:50] immackay : seems like it
[2016-12-24 01:29:17] Angelika : hello boys
[2016-12-24 01:30:28] mjones : bitfinex volume so low those numbers dont mean much
[2016-12-24 01:31:06] arbitrage001 : bfx platform is unusuable when market move
[2016-12-24 01:36:59] narnarfromnarnia : what's china going to do when they wake up
[2016-12-24 01:37:08] Adriana : Angelika: I bet you are a man
[2016-12-24 01:37:26] Angelika : of course I am
[2016-12-24 01:37:39] Angelika : I am Rado's transgender wife
[2016-12-24 01:40:23] l3f : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s9hJmp3NkE&feature=youtu.be
[2016-12-24 01:46:10] Adriana : Duuuuuump!
[2016-12-24 01:47:20] javierstone : hahah nope
[2016-12-24 01:49:47] ett1 : good morning, asia
[2016-12-24 01:52:50] ett1 : l3f: nice
[2016-12-24 02:09:05] Coconuter : buy any dip
[2016-12-24 02:09:55] arbitrage001 : stay strong, bulls !
[2016-12-24 02:09:59] arbitrage001 : buy the dip
[2016-12-24 02:10:05] Coconuter : sold my pants
[2016-12-24 02:10:07] arbitrage001 : we will make new high soon
[2016-12-24 02:10:08] Coconuter : to buy the dips
[2016-12-24 02:10:13] arbitrage001 : sell your wife and kids
[2016-12-24 02:13:05] mohameda : can someone help me understand leverage a bit better, if i had a short with 100 BTC worth, with 100x and it went down 20 percent
[2016-12-24 02:13:15] mohameda : how much would i have made?
[2016-12-24 02:13:38] arbitrage001 : mohameda: you will make 2000%
[2016-12-24 02:13:38] mjones : hope 6500 cny holds
[2016-12-24 02:13:51] arbitrage001 : 20% X 100 times leverage
[2016-12-24 02:13:52] mohameda : arbitrage001: thanks bro
[2016-12-24 02:22:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 20656 @ 6793.1
[2016-12-24 02:23:19] mjones : another rekt. high leverage longing the top. when you just cant wait for a dip.
[2016-12-24 02:25:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 9000 @ 6507.8
[2016-12-24 02:25:31] mjones : is this the dump
[2016-12-24 02:26:02] MrRGnome : I don't think so.
[2016-12-24 02:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 82100 @ 907.67 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-24 02:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1 @ 907.32 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-24 02:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 75343 @ 907.41 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-24 02:26:03] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2016-12-24 02:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 370 @ 907.65
[2016-12-24 02:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 13828 @ 907.18
[2016-12-24 02:26:08] mjones : Let's play dump or dip
[2016-12-24 02:26:10] immackay : there we go
[2016-12-24 02:26:21] MrRGnome : I think it's a dip
[2016-12-24 02:26:21] Coconuter : long
[2016-12-24 02:26:27] ayy_lmao : damn that went fast
[2016-12-24 02:26:30] immackay : another dip lol
[2016-12-24 02:26:37] mjones : 907 lol. Was like 740 not that long ago
[2016-12-24 02:26:45] mjones : 940*
[2016-12-24 02:27:05] Coconuter : lets go bitcoin god
[2016-12-24 02:27:13] Coconuter : pump that mofo
[2016-12-24 02:28:09] MrRGnome : I kind of hope we consolidate in the low 900s before we take a run at 1000
[2016-12-24 02:28:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 50 @ 6742.1
[2016-12-24 02:28:40] Coconuter : bitmex was much higher
[2016-12-24 02:28:49] Coconuter : now its equal
[2016-12-24 02:29:11] Coconuter : now they change exchanges
[2016-12-24 02:29:18] Coconuter : and long others first
[2016-12-24 02:29:28] Coconuter : this will follow
[2016-12-24 02:29:57] Coconuter : even tho this has no usd convertion
[2016-12-24 02:30:19] Coconuter : im sure theres a way to profit with this spread for people inside the wheel
[2016-12-24 02:30:21] Coconuter : =)
[2016-12-24 02:30:29] Coconuter : maybe a internal contract of convertion
[2016-12-24 02:30:34] Coconuter : something like that
[2016-12-24 02:32:44] narnarfromnarnia : just exited my short
[2016-12-24 02:32:52] narnarfromnarnia : missed that very bottom 905 though damn
[2016-12-24 02:33:02] zanza : whY? you are about to get some sweet .375% funding
[2016-12-24 02:33:04] shery : narnarfromnarnia: Good mroning how is your 880 short??
[2016-12-24 02:33:21] narnarfromnarnia : shery: i shorted from 902 > 878
[2016-12-24 02:33:29] narnarfromnarnia : i got too excited to re-open a long
[2016-12-24 02:33:35] shery : narnarfromnarnia: you also shorted at 88
[2016-12-24 02:33:38] zanza : oh
[2016-12-24 02:33:43] zanza : you gunna lose your money soon!
[2016-12-24 02:33:44] shery : 888*
[2016-12-24 02:33:45] immackay : looks like 900 is probably new baseline
[2016-12-24 02:33:45] narnarfromnarnia : i closed that at a .3 loss
[2016-12-24 02:33:47] zanza : emotional trader
[2016-12-24 02:34:05] shery : narnarfromnarnia: I told yu so many times to close at 892
[2016-12-24 02:34:18] narnarfromnarnia : shery: yea i closed that one
[2016-12-24 02:34:20] narnarfromnarnia : lost money though
[2016-12-24 02:34:21] shery : narnarfromnarnia: i am +1.4 xbt at that long closed at 826
[2016-12-24 02:34:27] narnarfromnarnia : i wonder how low it's going to go here now
[2016-12-24 02:34:34] narnarfromnarnia : anyone have any lines on a chart to look at?
[2016-12-24 02:34:39] narnarfromnarnia : on tradingview
[2016-12-24 02:34:45] narnarfromnarnia : like support or resistance lines
[2016-12-24 02:35:34] Coconuter : buy the dips
[2016-12-24 02:35:37] Coconuter : no chart needed
[2016-12-24 02:35:42] narnarfromnarnia : yea true
[2016-12-24 02:35:49] Coconuter : watch stochastic and follow the chyna bots
[2016-12-24 02:35:53] narnarfromnarnia : i like to just wait for extremes i would have been eaten up earlier
[2016-12-24 02:35:57] narnarfromnarnia : it went to 940 here seriously?
[2016-12-24 02:35:58] Coconuter : oversold 45minutes
[2016-12-24 02:35:59] Coconuter : buy
[2016-12-24 02:36:04] shery : narnarfromnarnia: never short now only long
[2016-12-24 02:36:11] narnarfromnarnia : shery: lol
[2016-12-24 02:36:14] narnarfromnarnia : and it goest to 880
[2016-12-24 02:36:32] narnarfromnarnia : i just like to get in and out but the drop earlier was my biggest trade ever
[2016-12-24 02:36:39] narnarfromnarnia : was at 25x too
[2016-12-24 02:36:44] shery : narnarfromnarnia: do what ?? have your liquidation price lower and feel relax have faith
[2016-12-24 02:37:09] narnarfromnarnia : shery: no i try to get in the right entry point for profits while there is action going on
[2016-12-24 02:37:12] narnarfromnarnia : if i can
[2016-12-24 02:37:17] narnarfromnarnia : i don't rely on faith
[2016-12-24 02:37:30] narnarfromnarnia : no religion here
[2016-12-24 02:37:43] shery : narnarfromnarnia: Its a nice stregady but it needs almost 24 hours to be active ,
[2016-12-24 02:40:01] immackay : 1000 from here boys
[2016-12-24 02:42:45] Coconuter : bitsamp leading
[2016-12-24 02:43:02] Coconuter : the pre move
[2016-12-24 02:44:21] narnarfromnarnia : shery: are you long now
[2016-12-24 02:44:23] narnarfromnarnia : from what price?
[2016-12-24 02:44:41] MikeHunt : isnt there usually a double dump before a massive pump?
[2016-12-24 02:46:25] l3f : MikeHunt: of course
[2016-12-24 02:47:10] shery : narnarfromnarnia: was long from 888 almost 50 xbt, closed at 726 , picked 50 xbt again at 710
[2016-12-24 02:47:54] narnarfromnarnia : shery: that sounds like a short?
[2016-12-24 02:47:57] shery : 926*
[2016-12-24 02:48:03] narnarfromnarnia : oh nice
[2016-12-24 02:48:13] narnarfromnarnia : what exchange got to 926
[2016-12-24 02:48:25] shery : narnarfromnarnia: bitmex\
[2016-12-24 02:48:29] narnarfromnarnia : what's the price gonna do now
[2016-12-24 02:48:32] narnarfromnarnia : up or down
[2016-12-24 02:48:33] narnarfromnarnia : from here
[2016-12-24 02:48:39] narnarfromnarnia : are we testing some support or
[2016-12-24 02:48:49] narnarfromnarnia : i wish i had support lines on my tradingview chart
[2016-12-24 02:49:16] shery : narnarfromnarnia: we will see new high on bitmex in 2 ours , it mght go down again for a while but new high is coming for sure
[2016-12-24 02:49:27] MikeHunt : it could reach 7k but its pretty top heavy atm
[2016-12-24 02:49:37] narnarfromnarnia : shery: do you have this charted out or something?
[2016-12-24 02:49:42] narnarfromnarnia : 2hrs why?
[2016-12-24 02:49:46] narnarfromnarnia : new 4hr candle or something?
[2016-12-24 02:49:58] fuckshitstack : i feel that too, I cant believe that todays daily candle is still flat. was expexting vertical. we are coiling up
[2016-12-24 02:50:28] shery : narnarfromnarnia: Does this rally needs any chart?? Pumps are followig regular timings , I am noting the times it pumps daily, stopped following charts in this super bullish rally
[2016-12-24 02:50:53] narnarfromnarnia : like right now when china gets up?
[2016-12-24 02:51:02] narnarfromnarnia : anyone actually using charts?
[2016-12-24 02:51:04] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-24 02:51:28] shery : narnarfromnarnia: yeps next round an an hour and than after 5 hours from now
[2016-12-24 02:51:52] shery : narnarfromnarnia: watch out pump tries on these timings
[2016-12-24 02:52:18] narnarfromnarnia : i would have to disagree
[2016-12-24 02:52:28] narnarfromnarnia : the 30M is just going red so in 1hr it's all down
[2016-12-24 02:52:33] MikeHunt : looking at charts it does seem to be curling over though
[2016-12-24 02:53:03] shery : narnarfromnarnia: lets see who is correct, 1 hours is green for me , 15-30 might be a small red
[2016-12-24 02:53:57] MikeHunt : okcoin is green for 30M
[2016-12-24 02:54:25] MikeHunt : (oh i see we cant mention other exchanges)
[2016-12-24 02:54:46] immackay : MikeHunt: no just okcoin lol
[2016-12-24 02:55:29] immackay : narnarfromnarnia: why would we use charts
[2016-12-24 02:55:36] ett1 : can somebody tell me why its called okcoin
[2016-12-24 02:55:39] immackay : I just trade based on what I read in the trollbox
[2016-12-24 02:55:45] MikeHunt : also bfxdata is swaying back towards buy
[2016-12-24 02:55:45] immackay : ett1: no clue lol
[2016-12-24 02:57:20] ett1 : Funding Rate0.1264% In 1 hour
[2016-12-24 02:57:57] ett1 : nvm
[2016-12-24 02:58:31] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: it's been equal for a while
[2016-12-24 02:58:48] narnarfromnarnia : immackay: i dunno some indicators are still useful
[2016-12-24 02:58:55] narnarfromnarnia : ie: william r%
[2016-12-24 02:59:07] immackay : narnarfromnarnia: I was joking lol, charts are the shit
[2016-12-24 02:59:27] narnarfromnarnia : immackay: do you have this charted with any support lines on tradingview?
[2016-12-24 02:59:33] shery : narnarfromnarnia: may be a bull run started
[2016-12-24 02:59:35] mjones : it looked like btc was ready to roll over and die after the last 2 pumps but it keeps going higher
[2016-12-24 02:59:40] narnarfromnarnia : i really need help figuring out
[2016-12-24 02:59:54] narnarfromnarnia : support lines but too small of a screen to measure that far back
[2016-12-24 02:59:58] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: maybe you should figure it out before gambling?
[2016-12-24 03:00:23] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: i'm using the right indicators,they're not really helpful in this bull run
[2016-12-24 03:00:29] narnarfromnarnia : but yeah
[2016-12-24 03:01:21] l3f : As an expert on tops
[2016-12-24 03:01:28] l3f : this isn't top yet
[2016-12-24 03:01:34] l3f : imho
[2016-12-24 03:02:03] immackay : narnarfromnarnia: at this point in the bull run, most lines mean nothing
[2016-12-24 03:02:08] immackay : wait for another dump
[2016-12-24 03:02:14] immackay : then it will pump again
[2016-12-24 03:02:25] immackay : unless it pumps from here but I doubt it
[2016-12-24 03:02:34] narnarfromnarnia : that was more like a consolidation gear up right there
[2016-12-24 03:02:37] narnarfromnarnia : i do feel like it's going up for sure
[2016-12-24 03:02:49] narnarfromnarnia : it's about equal with short/longs on bfx data
[2016-12-24 03:03:06] immackay : yeah, it'll go up more, just after mm knock out some longs
[2016-12-24 03:04:32] rapidtrades : sure, it will keep going forever
[2016-12-24 03:04:41] immackay : rapidtrades: not forever
[2016-12-24 03:04:56] immackay : just market mentality right now is that it's going up
[2016-12-24 03:05:03] immackay : self fulfilling prophecy
[2016-12-24 03:05:21] shery : narnarfromnarnia: you should stop following bfx data ,
[2016-12-24 03:05:23] immackay : it's definitely running out of steam
[2016-12-24 03:05:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `REP7D`: buy 42 @ 0.002921
[2016-12-24 03:06:28] immackay : I kind of think 950 is the top of this bull run
[2016-12-24 03:08:04] mjones : i could see a fake out pump that barely makes a new high in china and then dumps to shit
[2016-12-24 03:12:12] ett1 : chinese really love their round numbers
[2016-12-24 03:12:31] ett1 : it will go 7000
[2016-12-24 03:14:02] imapotato : Next pump incoming?
[2016-12-24 03:14:07] MikeHunt : 7k will probably be the last pump
[2016-12-24 03:14:29] MikeHunt : then once it fails to hold, the big red comes
[2016-12-24 03:15:10] ett1 : depends if 1000 breaks. could be huge
[2016-12-24 03:15:20] ett1 : whats everyones thoughs on LTC btw
[2016-12-24 03:15:50] shery : ett1: ltc is dead
[2016-12-24 03:16:15] MikeHunt : yup
[2016-12-24 03:16:17] mjones : if it hits 7000 why stop there. hit the all time high at 7995 cny and then dump to like 6900 cny
[2016-12-24 03:16:17] MikeHunt : same with eth
[2016-12-24 03:16:29] MikeHunt : the entire chart is a cup n handle
[2016-12-24 03:16:32] ett1 : ye ETH is dead i think
[2016-12-24 03:16:39] MikeHunt : going back to previous $1k a few years back
[2016-12-24 03:16:45] ett1 : LTC made a nice break & has some decent upsude i think
[2016-12-24 03:16:47] ett1 : but scared
[2016-12-24 03:16:55] shery : ett1: ryh will rebound but ltc , yess it is this
[2016-12-24 03:17:03] shery : eth*
[2016-12-24 03:17:17] MikeHunt : usually altcoins go up a bit during a BTC pump, but go down even faster in a BTC major dump
[2016-12-24 03:17:23] MikeHunt : so in the end they end up even lower value
[2016-12-24 03:17:48] ett1 : yes im long term BTC bull
[2016-12-24 03:17:53] ett1 : i missed other alts rallies
[2016-12-24 03:18:01] ett1 : but i id look to short a few
[2016-12-24 03:18:06] MikeHunt : after the next major dump i wouldnt be suprised if LTC is <$2
[2016-12-24 03:18:16] ett1 : would be be nice to catch a rally on one
[2016-12-24 03:18:22] shery : ett1: fct could have been a nice short
[2016-12-24 03:20:46] imapotato : Haha, dump after ATH. No.
[2016-12-24 03:21:26] imapotato : If we reach ATH, we're going to pop to much higher levels before the eventual return to a new normal.
[2016-12-24 03:22:10] Coconuter : 2000u$
[2016-12-24 03:22:11] imapotato : If we don't reach the ATH on this rally, I think we'll return to ~700 and resume the slow climb.
[2016-12-24 03:22:16] Coconuter : by january 10th
[2016-12-24 03:23:16] rapidtrades : guys market has been going up so it will keep going up
[2016-12-24 03:26:16] l3f : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5jv375/daily_discussion_friday_december_23_2016/dbkhfuj
[2016-12-24 03:26:24] l3f : which one of you is this?
[2016-12-24 03:28:58] Rado : hey rapidtrades
[2016-12-24 03:29:13] Rado : my MM bot is live :-)
[2016-12-24 03:31:59] narnarfromnarnia : rapidtrades: hey man, do you use a chart or mainly bots?
[2016-12-24 03:32:26] rapidtrades : Rado: Trail by FIRE
[2016-12-24 03:33:39] Rado : not sure what that means
[2016-12-24 03:34:35] rapidtrades : it's a good time to test a MM bot
[2016-12-24 03:34:37] zanza : real world test
[2016-12-24 03:34:46] Rado : yes
[2016-12-24 03:35:10] Rado : So far the dip from 926 to 907 was fine
[2016-12-24 03:35:36] rapidtrades : arbitrage's bot blew up
[2016-12-24 03:35:58] Rado : he did not have a skew and did not move orders fast enough
[2016-12-24 03:36:02] Rado : I think
[2016-12-24 03:36:15] Rado : that was the hardest part to figure out for me
[2016-12-24 03:36:42] Angelika : hey rapidntrades, I am Rado's bot nice to meet you
[2016-12-24 03:40:09] Angelika : I mean rapidtrades
[2016-12-24 03:41:04] narnarfromnarnia : rapidtrades: how much btc would you need for that?
[2016-12-24 03:41:10] narnarfromnarnia : also what kind of configurations
[2016-12-24 03:41:14] imapotato : Hi rapid trades, I'm a potato
[2016-12-24 03:41:16] narnarfromnarnia : i see it's in python
[2016-12-24 03:41:27] Rado : apparently BitMEX had the highest volume ever
[2016-12-24 03:43:03] rapidtrades : $10 for 6 days is too much
[2016-12-24 03:43:35] rapidtrades : that's 66% annualized
[2016-12-24 03:47:44] javierstone : christmas
[2016-12-24 03:47:52] javierstone : is fucking this up
[2016-12-24 03:56:14] ett1 : MM isnt going to work in a strong trending market
[2016-12-24 03:56:21] ett1 : price can jump and fuck the MM
[2016-12-24 04:00:52] narnarfromnarnia : i go to get something to eat and we're dumping already
[2016-12-24 04:01:56] l3f : lol it's xmas eve
[2016-12-24 04:02:05] l3f : and you are stuck here worrying about movements on the 1m chart
[2016-12-24 04:02:15] l3f : shit ain't moving today
[2016-12-24 04:02:21] rapidtrades : 1. it's not 'eve' yet
[2016-12-24 04:02:30] l3f : rapidtrades: it is in China
[2016-12-24 04:02:32] rapidtrades : 2. noone cares about ur stupid opinion
[2016-12-24 04:02:47] MrRGnome : 2. counting
[2016-12-24 04:02:51] rapidtrades : China is atheist
[2016-12-24 04:02:51] l3f : rapidtrades: but I care about yours
[2016-12-24 04:02:57] l3f : xmas is fun
[2016-12-24 04:03:07] l3f : you're breaking my heart rapidtrades
[2016-12-24 04:04:06] MrRGnome : we should all chip in for a grinch hat for rapidtrades
[2016-12-24 04:04:10] mariomarco : how long until 1000
[2016-12-24 04:04:21] l3f : mariomarco: christmas is cancelled
[2016-12-24 04:04:24] l3f : by rapidtrades
[2016-12-24 04:04:26] l3f : it's all his fault
[2016-12-24 04:04:28] MrRGnome : something like this https://www.amazon.com/elope-Grinch-Hoodie-Hat/dp/B007AFPVAC
[2016-12-24 04:04:28] l3f : we'll never see 1k
[2016-12-24 04:04:37] mariomarco : l3f: why not
[2016-12-24 04:04:43] Rado : mariomarco: $85
[2016-12-24 04:04:45] l3f : the grinch stole xmas again
[2016-12-24 04:05:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 50 @ 0.001235
[2016-12-24 04:05:07] l3f : rapidtrades is going to dump 1000 btcs to end xmas forever
[2016-12-24 04:05:16] l3f : only a brave team of bulls can stop his evil schemes
[2016-12-24 04:05:26] mariomarco : ohnoez
[2016-12-24 04:05:30] l3f : we have 24 hours before xmas is ruined forever
[2016-12-24 04:05:37] MrRGnome : Somebody stop him!
[2016-12-24 04:05:48] l3f : where's the hero we need?
[2016-12-24 04:05:56] MrRGnome : You won't get away with this rapidtrades
[2016-12-24 04:06:59] rapidtrades : remember that guy that longed 1mil and got liquidated right before this pump
[2016-12-24 04:07:18] Rado : no
[2016-12-24 04:07:22] Rado : who was that?
[2016-12-24 04:07:26] l3f : rapidtrades: where have you taken him prisoner?
[2016-12-24 04:07:30] ett1 : ouch. longed @ what price
[2016-12-24 04:07:51] ett1 : liquidated i mean
[2016-12-24 04:07:54] rapidtrades : idk but it happened few days ago
[2016-12-24 04:08:08] rapidtrades : longed around 780-800 ish
[2016-12-24 04:08:15] mariomarco : damn
[2016-12-24 04:08:47] rapidtrades : it was same day december crashed to 710 or smth
[2016-12-24 04:08:59] rapidtrades : but he longed on JPY i think
[2016-12-24 04:09:03] ett1 : oh well, he missed this bull run but maybe he can short before the 20% retrace.
[2016-12-24 04:09:04] VitalikButerin : Hello, trollbox!
[2016-12-24 04:09:22] Rado : hey VitalikButerin
[2016-12-24 04:09:24] l3f : VitalikButerin: I'm so sorry about ethereum
[2016-12-24 04:09:33] Rado : lol
[2016-12-24 04:09:35] rapidtrades : OMG THE REAL VITALIK IS HERE
[2016-12-24 04:09:43] MrRGnome : Don't be, he dumped
[2016-12-24 04:09:44] mariomarco : eth needs more dump imo
[2016-12-24 04:09:57] MrRGnome : +1 dump. I want to see 0.005
[2016-12-24 04:09:57] ett1 : hey vitalik are you on tradingview
[2016-12-24 04:09:59] rapidtrades : VitalikButerin: do u come with a personal recommendation to buy ZECs?
[2016-12-24 04:10:14] l3f : rapidtrades is a very big fan of ethereum
[2016-12-24 04:10:19] VitalikButerin : I shall not make any remarks on the price of ETH as it was never intended to be a currency.
[2016-12-24 04:10:32] mariomarco : lol
[2016-12-24 04:10:32] ett1 : nor an investment
[2016-12-24 04:10:41] ett1 : its just the gas to fuel the platform
[2016-12-24 04:10:44] rapidtrades : but on ZEC, a great buy amirite? @VitalikButerin
[2016-12-24 04:10:51] l3f : VitalikButerin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8
[2016-12-24 04:11:05] VitalikButerin : Whether it is a great buy or not, I cannot say. I am no prophet.
[2016-12-24 04:11:37] ett1 : im launching an ICO: METHANE PLATFORM
[2016-12-24 04:11:40] ett1 : it has its own gas
[2016-12-24 04:11:48] l3f : VitalikButerin: are you the real guy or just role playing?
[2016-12-24 04:12:03] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: what direction are we going in?
[2016-12-24 04:12:07] rapidtrades : doesn't seem like the real guy
[2016-12-24 04:12:16] rapidtrades : the real Vitalik would've loved ZEC
[2016-12-24 04:12:23] ett1 : hes not the real guy
[2016-12-24 04:12:24] VitalikButerin : It's me, but it's alright if you don't believe me.
[2016-12-24 04:12:40] l3f : VitalikButerin: well I'd like a signed cryptographic proof with your pgp key
[2016-12-24 04:12:46] ett1 : look at TV chatbox
[2016-12-24 04:12:54] ett1 : he said you are fake
[2016-12-24 04:12:57] VitalikButerin : I'm vacationing in India as of now :)
[2016-12-24 04:12:59] ett1 : the real one
[2016-12-24 04:13:16] l3f : Ah professional role player
[2016-12-24 04:13:22] rapidtrades : l3f: that's not good enough cos he'd find a way to screw it up
[2016-12-24 04:13:41] l3f : might have to hard fork his pgp key after
[2016-12-24 04:13:46] VitalikButerin : Well, goodbye now!
[2016-12-24 04:13:55] ett1 : busted
[2016-12-24 04:14:45] l3f : liar liar pants on fire
[2016-12-24 04:15:58] micmix : last time he was answering questions asked in Russian, so might be real Vitalik (or someone who speaks a bit of Russian)
[2016-12-24 04:16:03] ett1 : im the real vbuterin