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[2016-12-23 22:50:35] mjones : xbth17 premium is $74 now
[2016-12-23 22:50:36] anonymous789 : anyway here comes 6600 boys
[2016-12-23 22:50:39] wurstgelee : micmix: 100x, 24hh, at .375%/8h .... ;) sounds great
[2016-12-23 22:51:04] anonymous789 : i'll eat the funding for the next 16 hours if we get to 1k usd lol
[2016-12-23 22:51:06] rapidtrades : micmix: I've been saying but but I think they're all out drinking
[2016-12-23 22:51:07] m3s : sounds like rekt city
[2016-12-23 22:51:20] justinlooking : dmasters: on desktop it's onhover
[2016-12-23 22:51:20] icet208 : 1.1k this year guys
[2016-12-23 22:51:29] sleger : Bitmex the swap is not tracking mark price you need to act
[2016-12-23 22:51:34] j8 : all your longs will be ADL'd if they don't lower leverage and raise the cap
[2016-12-23 22:51:35] dmasters : thanks justinlooking
[2016-12-23 22:51:41] anonymous789 : 6580
[2016-12-23 22:51:41] rapidtrades : sleger: cap it?
[2016-12-23 22:51:41] l3f : sleger: short the shit out of it?
[2016-12-23 22:51:46] m3s : sleger: traders eating it up lol
[2016-12-23 22:51:49] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: What would you have us do? ;)
[2016-12-23 22:51:50] micmix : I'm max short limit here
[2016-12-23 22:51:51] aaaaa : this is crazy
[2016-12-23 22:51:54] l3f : BitMEX_Greg: more interest
[2016-12-23 22:51:57] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: lower leverage
[2016-12-23 22:52:04] sleger : Change leverage to 50
[2016-12-23 22:52:04] l3f : summon: Bitmex
[2016-12-23 22:52:07] gaoMex : BitMEX_Greg: raise funding limit
[2016-12-23 22:52:11] j8 : BitMEX_Greg: get the others
[2016-12-23 22:52:13] sleger : so funding goes to 1%
[2016-12-23 22:52:19] rapidtrades : +1
[2016-12-23 22:52:24] l3f : holy fuck
[2016-12-23 22:52:25] sleger : duh
[2016-12-23 22:52:26] micmix : yep
[2016-12-23 22:52:28] l3f : sleger that Bitmex summon
[2016-12-23 22:52:28] anonymous789 : eww
[2016-12-23 22:52:29] l3f : so sleak
[2016-12-23 22:52:33] m3s : choyna
[2016-12-23 22:52:50] gaoMex : extreme times require extreme measures
[2016-12-23 22:52:51] anonymous789 : just lower leverage leave the funding rate haha
[2016-12-23 22:53:07] rapidtrades : they go together @anonymous789
[2016-12-23 22:53:12] anonymous789 : oh
[2016-12-23 22:53:20] anonymous789 : do nothing then
[2016-12-23 22:53:27] sleger : Everyone for free money: short the swap at 100x you have over 1% of free maintenance margin
[2016-12-23 22:53:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 750 @ 921.07
[2016-12-23 22:53:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 125 @ 920.55
[2016-12-23 22:53:47] justinlooking : it's doing it again
[2016-12-23 22:53:52] sleger : you wont ger liquidated until mark price goes 4$ above entry price
[2016-12-23 22:53:56] anonymous789 : well at least stamp is kinda catching up
[2016-12-23 22:54:06] sleger : You will ger a freee ride on the insurance fund
[2016-12-23 22:54:07] rapidtrades : sleger: wtf
[2016-12-23 22:54:15] rapidtrades : is that true
[2016-12-23 22:54:20] sleger : Ofc
[2016-12-23 22:54:20] l3f : short 100x lol
[2016-12-23 22:54:23] l3f : when swap go back down
[2016-12-23 22:54:25] l3f : you win
[2016-12-23 22:54:30] sleger : its market ar mark price right
[2016-12-23 22:54:42] rapidtrades : ah i see
[2016-12-23 22:54:45] sleger : market is 12$ above so free ride mostly
[2016-12-23 22:54:55] rapidtrades : I think ur math adds up
[2016-12-23 22:55:23] sleger : Thanks sherlock
[2016-12-23 22:55:50] anonymous789 : sleger you're such an arrogant mofo, i love it
[2016-12-23 22:55:57] l3f : sleger, the man the myth
[2016-12-23 22:55:59] l3f : the whale
[2016-12-23 22:56:04] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: that would make you the watson sidekick then eh
[2016-12-23 22:56:13] anonymous789 : BURN
[2016-12-23 22:56:17] wurstgelee : i would actually do it. but i dont fucking short this run
[2016-12-23 22:56:22] rapidtrades : ahahahah he's my sidekick
[2016-12-23 22:56:32] sleger : Maybe only work in french that expression:'(
[2016-12-23 22:56:32] rapidtrades : my number 2
[2016-12-23 22:56:46] sleger : hate you @BitMEX_Greg
[2016-12-23 22:56:49] anonymous789 : approaching 6600 ever closer
[2016-12-23 22:56:53] mjones : new high on okcoin
[2016-12-23 22:57:06] anonymous789 : here we go
[2016-12-23 22:57:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2 @ 921.92 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-23 22:57:08] m3s : 950 here we go
[2016-12-23 22:57:12] BitMEX_Greg : haha, we should go for a drink if you ever visit NY mate @sleger
[2016-12-23 22:57:14] l3f : H17 moving to 1k
[2016-12-23 22:57:20] micmix : adl time
[2016-12-23 22:57:34] brouk : 6603 new okc high
[2016-12-23 22:58:00] mjones : who wants to be the first to buy $1000 on XBTH17?
[2016-12-23 22:58:08] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: i'm in new orleans now. Will be in nyc for nye but my schedule is quite full
[2016-12-23 22:58:20] mjones : market buy 78,538 contracts to buy $1000
[2016-12-23 22:58:27] m3s : this looks like it will rocket past 1000
[2016-12-23 22:58:36] billz : swap trading higher than Dec. 31st futures lol
[2016-12-23 22:59:02] aaaaa : lo
[2016-12-23 22:59:05] aaaaa : lol
[2016-12-23 22:59:10] aaaaa : bitmex lag
[2016-12-23 22:59:27] l3f : nodejs doesn't scale guys
[2016-12-23 22:59:28] anonymous789 : interesting observation no short rekts
[2016-12-23 22:59:31] anonymous789 : or hardly any
[2016-12-23 22:59:37] l3f : anonymous789: they got cleaned up already
[2016-12-23 22:59:43] anonymous789 : seems so
[2016-12-23 22:59:46] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: no worries, if you do get some free time for a coffee or anything let me know
[2016-12-23 22:59:49] l3f : they already had their shit pushed back in
[2016-12-23 23:00:04] l3f : BitMEX_Greg: so if anyone calls Bitmex you get a notification?
[2016-12-23 23:00:57] mjones : same on reddit
[2016-12-23 23:01:04] l3f : good to know
[2016-12-23 23:01:15] BitMEX_Greg : l3f: We have some scraper that informs us yeah
[2016-12-23 23:01:31] mjones : customer service 10/10
[2016-12-23 23:02:36] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: is the insurance fund for swap and dec31 separate?
[2016-12-23 23:02:37] anonymous789 : i think the perfect trade will be get out of bitcoin at top, and long ether
[2016-12-23 23:02:54] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: Yes they are
[2016-12-23 23:02:55] m3s : anonymous789: and zec,
[2016-12-23 23:03:00] m3s : anonymous789: maybe rep
[2016-12-23 23:03:05] anonymous789 : ether is more reliable i think
[2016-12-23 23:03:12] mohameda : LOL longing rep
[2016-12-23 23:03:12] rapidtrades : no it isn't
[2016-12-23 23:03:24] l3f : should buy zec guys
[2016-12-23 23:03:25] l3f : good to long now
[2016-12-23 23:03:26] anonymous789 : 2nd most volume crypto right?
[2016-12-23 23:03:36] m3s : eth is shit but may well pump after btc is done
[2016-12-23 23:03:46] anonymous789 : ethereum is great
[2016-12-23 23:03:52] anonymous789 : vitalik buterin is the best
[2016-12-23 23:03:56] m3s : great to short yes :D
[2016-12-23 23:03:59] aroraprav : long xmr
[2016-12-23 23:04:13] anonymous789 : vitalik will save us all
[2016-12-23 23:04:15] aroraprav : ring ct round the corner
[2016-12-23 23:04:30] rapidtrades : Zuko > Vitalik
[2016-12-23 23:05:00] Gomezpl : Comeone where is the christmas dump:p
[2016-12-23 23:05:12] bingbongfly : Gomezpl: incoming
[2016-12-23 23:05:23] anonymous789 : little shakeout i think
[2016-12-23 23:06:04] anonymous789 : 7AM in china right?
[2016-12-23 23:06:41] l3f : exactly 7
[2016-12-23 23:06:52] Nerve : 1 hour left untill the fireworks start ???
[2016-12-23 23:07:00] narnarfromnarnia : short now lol
[2016-12-23 23:07:09] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: did you learn your lesson yet?
[2016-12-23 23:07:15] Nerve : yeaaahh. Good tip
[2016-12-23 23:07:16] m3s : Nerve: what happens thn
[2016-12-23 23:07:26] anonymous789 : let's see what happens in 1 hour
[2016-12-23 23:07:41] rapidtrades : nothing's gonna happen he's a moron
[2016-12-23 23:07:48] Nerve : The chinese wake up and goes to work...i think LOL
[2016-12-23 23:07:59] rapidtrades : on a Saturday?
[2016-12-23 23:08:13] anonymous789 : possibly? i don't know about their culture?
[2016-12-23 23:08:28] Nerve : rapidtrades: why ? On saturday is a complete holliday in China ?
[2016-12-23 23:08:57] narnarfromnarnia : shorted from 907 to 878 today
[2016-12-23 23:08:58] rapidtrades : most ppl don't work Saturdays
[2016-12-23 23:09:33] anonymous789 : arabs work sundays instead of friday and satursday
[2016-12-23 23:09:36] anonymous789 : saturday*
[2016-12-23 23:09:41] anonymous789 : so it's possible chinese have different times
[2016-12-23 23:09:42] anonymous789 : dunno
[2016-12-23 23:10:05] aaaaa : what a party!!
[2016-12-23 23:10:09] aaaaa : this is crazy!
[2016-12-23 23:10:17] rapidtrades : BAN AAAAA
[2016-12-23 23:11:55] mjones : who sold xbth17 at $941?
[2016-12-23 23:12:08] mjones : 994.99 to 941.98 it fell. wtf
[2016-12-23 23:12:14] anonymous789 : engulfing bear candle on cny
[2016-12-23 23:12:18] anonymous789 : 15min
[2016-12-23 23:12:33] anonymous789 : could be small dump incoming
[2016-12-23 23:12:48] j8 : mjones: market order when the mm's gone, no doubt
[2016-12-23 23:13:06] mjones : lol @ all those stops hit?
[2016-12-23 23:13:32] mjones : 14,100 dumped at 941.98
[2016-12-23 23:13:41] mjones : who did that. speak now
[2016-12-23 23:13:47] m3s : anonymous789: does TA on 15 min work when there is an epic pamp ?
[2016-12-23 23:13:49] Adriana : ICN is about to pop up
[2016-12-23 23:14:06] anonymous789 : m3s: it can sometimes help you spot something early
[2016-12-23 23:14:20] mjones : 15,000 dumped at 962.09 who is the lucky trader that did that
[2016-12-23 23:14:34] anonymous789 : wow
[2016-12-23 23:15:34] anonymous789 : well that attempt to engulf on the 15min failed
[2016-12-23 23:15:44] anonymous789 : looks more bullish now
[2016-12-23 23:15:46] mjones : man. dump 995. set buy order 942...profit
[2016-12-23 23:16:17] l3f : mjones: 360 no scope that trade m80
[2016-12-23 23:16:32] mjones : i dont know who is dumping after watching china buy price up to 200 cny to 6600 and then did it again. and now going to do it again
[2016-12-23 23:19:07] anonymous789 : is it just bitmex market making?
[2016-12-23 23:22:16] m3s : mark slowly reaching swap
[2016-12-23 23:22:39] anonymous789 : bearstamp living up to its name
[2016-12-23 23:23:06] m3s : lol
[2016-12-23 23:24:18] l3f : bearstamp indeed
[2016-12-23 23:25:45] aethlios : 40k swap volume!!!
[2016-12-23 23:26:54] l3f : aethlios: not hard when it's 100x
[2016-12-23 23:26:58] l3f : :)))))
[2016-12-23 23:27:05] l3f : aethlios: did you load up during the dip?
[2016-12-23 23:29:29] Coconuter : GIVE ME MOAR
[2016-12-23 23:29:33] Coconuter : now bitcoin god
[2016-12-23 23:29:36] aethlios : l3f: no i am already long, better sell spikes up now and buy little lower.
[2016-12-23 23:29:38] Coconuter : give it to me
[2016-12-23 23:30:45] iisss : wtf bitmex.. cleared all the price action between 910 and 930 and now we get to sit here with our thumbs up our ass
[2016-12-23 23:31:22] iisss : waiting for the rest of the market to catchup to this fuckery
[2016-12-23 23:31:36] rekt101 : you say it like its a bad thing iisss
[2016-12-23 23:31:42] narnarfromnarnia : iisss:
[2016-12-23 23:31:43] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-23 23:31:51] narnarfromnarnia : it went to 940 on bitmex?
[2016-12-23 23:31:56] narnarfromnarnia : i just missed this crazyness
[2016-12-23 23:32:02] narnarfromnarnia : during lunch thought we would be sideways
[2016-12-23 23:32:04] narnarfromnarnia : this sucks
[2016-12-23 23:32:12] narnarfromnarnia : missed out on the fun
[2016-12-23 23:32:18] iisss : ther was no fun.
[2016-12-23 23:32:27] iisss : it just went straight up
[2016-12-23 23:32:33] Hawkeye : narnarfromnarnia: i was here and i didnt trade it so dont feel too bad :)
[2016-12-23 23:32:48] Hawkeye : i am waiting for the 1000 to take my profits ;)
[2016-12-23 23:33:14] rekt101 : iisss: was fun for people in position
[2016-12-23 23:33:19] narnarfromnarnia : Hawkeye: yeah i closed a short before leaving too
[2016-12-23 23:33:29] narnarfromnarnia : i've lost .3 on that glad i just closed it or would have been way worse
[2016-12-23 23:33:32] Hawkeye : i never short in a bulltrend :)
[2016-12-23 23:33:44] narnarfromnarnia : Hawkeye: i did from 904 - 878
[2016-12-23 23:33:47] narnarfromnarnia : was awesome
[2016-12-23 23:33:47] Hawkeye : buy tp and repeat
[2016-12-23 23:33:49] narnarfromnarnia : 200% gain
[2016-12-23 23:33:57] iisss : congrats to your clairvoyance
[2016-12-23 23:33:57] narnarfromnarnia : did you sell at this top though?
[2016-12-23 23:34:12] narnarfromnarnia : i mean you can't just hodl always
[2016-12-23 23:34:13] Hawkeye : pfff 948 isnt a top ;) 1000 is the target
[2016-12-23 23:34:18] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-23 23:34:22] narnarfromnarnia : yeah i bet it does go there
[2016-12-23 23:34:24] zanza : 40k trnover
[2016-12-23 23:34:27] zanza : wow !
[2016-12-23 23:34:36] Hawkeye : then after i expect a dip to rebuy :)
[2016-12-23 23:34:58] mjones : okcoin makes new highs on the lowest volume since this pump started.
[2016-12-23 23:35:01] zanza : average fee is .05% ?
[2016-12-23 23:35:02] BitMEX_Sam : zanza: Yeah, we're at 55k overall across all contracts, our best ever by over 25%
[2016-12-23 23:35:08] Hawkeye : i had to restart oct 1st (got goxed and all) with 5btc, now at 15 .... (on 3 exchanges)
[2016-12-23 23:35:09] zanza : wow
[2016-12-23 23:35:10] zanza : crazy
[2016-12-23 23:35:48] Hawkeye : if current play plays out i will hit 20... onm to my own ath of 100btc
[2016-12-23 23:35:48] zanza : ETH red candle
[2016-12-23 23:35:52] zanza : wow
[2016-12-23 23:36:37] mjones : where?
[2016-12-23 23:36:39] zanza : Vitalik pump and dump finally over?
[2016-12-23 23:36:48] mjones : i think my eth chart frozen
[2016-12-23 23:37:11] zanza : i just mean it dropps like 10% in a day
[2016-12-23 23:37:27] mjones : eth buy support is weak. so there could be a big red dildo soon
[2016-12-23 23:37:39] l3f : eth was a mistake
[2016-12-23 23:37:57] mjones : those big buys in ETH near the top was a bad idea
[2016-12-23 23:38:06] mjones : have fun hoping ETH ever goes back up that high to break even
[2016-12-23 23:38:34] zanza : Vitalik sold a big portion of his ownership months ago
[2016-12-23 23:38:51] zanza : http://themerkle.com/ethereum-developer-vitalik-buterin-sold-25-of-his-coins/
[2016-12-23 23:39:04] mjones : coins to buy once BTC moons will be XMR and LTC most likely. big enough market cap to move a lot in and out
[2016-12-23 23:39:34] mjones : btc went up 19% this week. ltc goes up 20% today
[2016-12-23 23:39:34] l3f : mjones: ltc's already being manipulated
[2016-12-23 23:39:37] l3f : I won't touch that
[2016-12-23 23:41:06] mjones : well ltc is still on okcoin where traders can 5x long it. and there is a ton of money on okcoin it looks like
[2016-12-23 23:41:38] mjones : damn xbth17 going for a dip
[2016-12-23 23:41:44] mjones : down $20
[2016-12-23 23:42:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 4000 @ 972.24
[2016-12-23 23:42:16] mjones : people get faked out so easily
[2016-12-23 23:42:24] mjones : have fun longing higher to get back in
[2016-12-23 23:42:47] zanza : $1000 cake coming soon
[2016-12-23 23:43:29] zanza : I don't think 900 is sustainable
[2016-12-23 23:43:35] zanza : opinion only
[2016-12-23 23:45:32] MrRGnome : I wonder if bitmexs btcusd pair is high because of chinese using the site who figure 925 is a great deal compared to 937
[2016-12-23 23:45:52] zanza : we may have another 8% difficulty increase coming soon
[2016-12-23 23:46:21] MrRGnome : the cost to mine a bitcoin is insanely low compared to the current price. If price stays high mining will explode.
[2016-12-23 23:46:55] brouk : what happens to your position when you do not have enough account balance to pay for funding?
[2016-12-23 23:46:57] mjones : the chinese trollbox is so dead i dont think anyone from china trades here
[2016-12-23 23:47:26] BitMEX_Greg : haha well China is just waking up now..
[2016-12-23 23:47:53] mjones : damn ltc going up more
[2016-12-23 23:47:55] zanza : I don't think Chinese troll much
[2016-12-23 23:48:11] mjones : ltc up 29% today
[2016-12-23 23:48:12] MrRGnome : They are an ancient and mature peoples.
[2016-12-23 23:54:12] brouk : BitMEX_Greg: what happens to position when there is not enough account balance to pay for funding?
[2016-12-23 23:57:05] cryptomad : https://twitter.com/CNBCFastMoney/status/812425456293126144
[2016-12-23 23:57:26] BitMEX_Sam : brouk: Technically the position is already marked at a small bit of negative/positive basis depending on whether you will pay or receive funding
[2016-12-23 23:57:28] Coconuter : this green dildo will be massive
[2016-12-23 23:57:40] Coconuter : after xmass the news cover will be bitcoin
[2016-12-23 23:57:45] BitMEX_Sam : This means you can't be liquidated at a funding event, because at the moment funding happens, the mark price will move the equivalent amount and your position will remain flat
[2016-12-23 23:57:48] Coconuter : china is preparing the lubrificant
[2016-12-23 23:58:14] BitMEX_Sam : So to simply answer your question: you won't be liquidated at a funding boundary.
[2016-12-23 23:59:12] brouk : BitMEX_Sam: i see, so the future funding is already calculated in my position right?
[2016-12-23 23:59:15] BitMEX_Sam : Right
[2016-12-23 23:59:20] brouk : BitMEX_Sam: thanks
[2016-12-23 23:59:39] BitMEX_Sam : We created this method so that there is not the chance of a rash of liquidations right at funding
[2016-12-23 23:59:52] l3f : this would have been a decent track without the stupid human noises
[2016-12-23 23:59:53] l3f : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzKzPLL6upU
[2016-12-23 23:59:57] l3f : smh
[2016-12-24 00:01:56] sleger : This has the huge inconvenience of limiting the funding rate
[2016-12-24 00:02:09] sleger : and therefore the tracking ability of the market to the index price
[2016-12-24 00:03:04] l3f : why cap the funding rate at all?
[2016-12-24 00:03:05] sleger : Maintenance margin does not cover for the 10+$ difference that was there. Not close
[2016-12-24 00:03:16] sleger : l3f: he just explained it dummy
[2016-12-24 00:03:47] l3f : no you can cap the movement
[2016-12-24 00:03:57] l3f : as in max 0.3% movement
[2016-12-24 00:04:08] sleger : Yes but that is not the case here
[2016-12-24 00:04:22] l3f : I know that's what I'm asking, why hard cap instead of floating?
[2016-12-24 00:04:26] sleger : then you end up with a huge bid wall and no trade no volume no fees
[2016-12-24 00:05:01] l3f : sleger: how would you fix it?
[2016-12-24 00:05:03] sleger : the cap in funding is a consequence of the maintenance margin having to cover for funding
[2016-12-24 00:05:24] sleger : i have solutions i would be happy to sell them
[2016-12-24 00:05:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 137 @ 0.007710
[2016-12-24 00:06:25] mjones : when people cant trade swap they come to march 31 futures and jack up the premium
[2016-12-24 00:07:24] mjones : at 2.6 million open contracts and still have a week for old futures to settle and then that money needs to go somewhere :)
[2016-12-24 00:08:43] l3f : mjones: all they do is make the spread bigger
[2016-12-24 00:09:11] mjones : till main market maker adjusts
[2016-12-24 00:09:21] mjones : premium went $45 to $68 and spread isnt too bad now
[2016-12-24 00:09:59] MikeHunt : Do you guys think we'll see a small correction in Bitcoin or massive peak then collapse?
[2016-12-24 00:10:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: sell 10 @ 0.054506
[2016-12-24 00:10:18] mjones : massive peak then collapse like the other times it has happened
[2016-12-24 00:13:06] tommygunn : collapse from new ath, that number is unknown
[2016-12-24 00:13:41] tommygunn : 1-10000l
[2016-12-24 00:13:50] tommygunn : k
[2016-12-24 00:18:39] MikeHunt : Are you guys long or short at the moment?
[2016-12-24 00:20:07] mjones : both
[2016-12-24 00:20:09] mjones : that way i cant lose
[2016-12-24 00:21:19] BitMEX_Sam : Bulletproof logic
[2016-12-24 00:23:44] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: short for a short time
[2016-12-24 00:23:54] narnarfromnarnia : but this is could easily hit 1k
[2016-12-24 00:25:41] rapidtrades : 'easily'
[2016-12-24 00:25:46] MikeHunt : PBOC in China said they are developing their own digital currency apparently
[2016-12-24 00:25:55] MikeHunt : thats the only solution i see to China's currency problems
[2016-12-24 00:26:22] MikeHunt : since ~90% of transactions from China
[2016-12-24 00:26:29] MikeHunt : this could effect bitcoin imo
[2016-12-24 00:31:02] mjones : well btc whales gotta pump the price in order to sell their BTC they accumulated last 3 years
[2016-12-24 00:34:12] imapotato : Will we see ATH first or significant correction ($100 drop) first?
[2016-12-24 00:35:15] m3s : 1000 than 900 than 1000+ imo
[2016-12-24 00:35:37] imapotato : But you used than instead of then. Can I trust you?
[2016-12-24 00:35:56] m3s : pardon my ingrish
[2016-12-24 00:35:59] MikeHunt : lol
[2016-12-24 00:36:08] Coconuter : ten
[2016-12-24 00:36:13] mjones : 6946 cny = 1000 usd. but if you want bitfinex to hit 1000 usd then china will be at like 7300 cny
[2016-12-24 00:36:43] narnarfromnarnia : anyone trading bitmex usd?
[2016-12-24 00:36:51] mjones : 7995 cny is okcoin ATH
[2016-12-24 00:36:52] narnarfromnarnia : have a chart with some good support lines?
[2016-12-24 00:36:59] MikeHunt : near a peak we tend to get exchange failure, then it plumets
[2016-12-24 00:37:12] MikeHunt : for chart predictions i use TradingView
[2016-12-24 00:37:13] narnarfromnarnia : support resistance is where on this thing?
[2016-12-24 00:37:26] MikeHunt : probably around 7000
[2016-12-24 00:37:30] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: nice do you have a chart
[2016-12-24 00:37:33] narnarfromnarnia : in USD?
[2016-12-24 00:37:36] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: short it to zero
[2016-12-24 00:37:36] l3f : the only way
[2016-12-24 00:37:40] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-24 00:37:47] narnarfromnarnia : i've done well with the shorts
[2016-12-24 00:37:51] narnarfromnarnia : and not well
[2016-12-24 00:37:56] narnarfromnarnia : yeah
[2016-12-24 00:37:59] l3f : keep shorting
[2016-12-24 00:38:14] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: Well I am probably not best to ask since i was a bear and got slaughtered
[2016-12-24 00:38:34] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: i just shorted earlier no problem with that
[2016-12-24 00:38:39] narnarfromnarnia : did not expect this leg up so fast
[2016-12-24 00:39:15] narnarfromnarnia : someone dump into that 54k
[2016-12-24 00:39:19] narnarfromnarnia : 924
[2016-12-24 00:39:39] MikeHunt : its a bit like with the stock market at the moment, technical analysis seems to have gone out the window
[2016-12-24 00:39:46] MikeHunt : i forgot to factor in china
[2016-12-24 00:40:35] Hawkeye : can someone simple explain the deleverage bars and why mine might be running up (is it bad? i am in profit and have enough margin)
[2016-12-24 00:40:44] Hawkeye : simply not simple ;)
[2016-12-24 00:40:51] narnarfromnarnia : waiting for next 15m candle to short or not
[2016-12-24 00:40:52] BitMEX_Sam : Hawkeye: It's okay - click the bars for more details
[2016-12-24 00:41:01] narnarfromnarnia : is that a bad strategy lol
[2016-12-24 00:41:10] Hawkeye : BitMEX_Sam: i did and not sure i understand :)
[2016-12-24 00:41:18] BitMEX_Sam : It's a priority system for what will happen if losses on a liquidation are so high that the system needs to exit a position to compensate.
[2016-12-24 00:41:36] Hawkeye : ah ok so unless a crash appears there is no influence on it
[2016-12-24 00:42:04] Hawkeye : thnx
[2016-12-24 00:42:08] BitMEX_Sam : No problem
[2016-12-24 00:42:37] flux : When i close my position does it close it at mark price of spot price?
[2016-12-24 00:42:46] Hawkeye : guess i better make less profit to be noticed less by the system... the system is watching you everywhere.... <puts tin foil on>
[2016-12-24 00:42:52] Hawkeye : ;)
[2016-12-24 00:42:59] flux : or *
[2016-12-24 00:43:27] Hawkeye : flux: think it closes on whatever bid is there
[2016-12-24 00:43:37] Hawkeye : could be way over or under spot
[2016-12-24 00:43:56] flux : I mean, my position shows mark price
[2016-12-24 00:44:03] flux : for my PNL
[2016-12-24 00:44:10] Hawkeye : yes but sales are done on other ppls bids
[2016-12-24 00:44:21] Hawkeye : so it could be better/worse then pnl shows
[2016-12-24 00:44:32] flux : if I market close does it close on mark price or spot?
[2016-12-24 00:44:46] Hawkeye : so best case you buy 10 under spot and sell 10 over spot and bag the extra 20
[2016-12-24 00:44:52] Hawkeye : (if i unerstand correctly)
[2016-12-24 00:44:54] flux : Yeah but mark price shows 918 right now and spot is 925
[2016-12-24 00:45:06] BitMEX_Wally : flux: If you close using a limit order it closes at the limit price, if you close using a market order it depends on the order book
[2016-12-24 00:45:22] flux : so what is mark price for?
[2016-12-24 00:45:33] Hawkeye : it'll eat the bids/asks till you are done (market can be expensive)
[2016-12-24 00:45:46] Hawkeye : to prevent to be liquadated too quickly
[2016-12-24 00:46:07] narnarfromnarnia : BitMEX_Wally: how is the unrealized PNL based? the mark price or actual price and orders on books if market close?
[2016-12-24 00:46:07] Hawkeye : its the price they calculate is safe to hold even if bids are lower
[2016-12-24 00:46:29] narnarfromnarnia : are the fees here higher than other exchanges?
[2016-12-24 00:46:29] Hawkeye : once you liqidate you will eat bids again though
[2016-12-24 00:47:02] Hawkeye : narnarfromnarnia: limit is cheaper, you get money market buys is a bit more then others afaik
[2016-12-24 00:47:12] Hawkeye : -0,025 vs 0,075 on btc
[2016-12-24 00:48:16] narnarfromnarnia : .025 is limit on orderbook xbtusd?
[2016-12-24 00:48:35] Hawkeye : negative 0,025 % yes
[2016-12-24 00:48:47] BitMEX_Sam : narnarfromnarnia: UPL is based on mark price
[2016-12-24 00:48:50] Hawkeye : click on REFERENCES > Fees
[2016-12-24 00:49:05] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, our fees are quite competitive, especially for makers
[2016-12-24 00:49:13] Hawkeye : love the maker fees ;)
[2016-12-24 00:49:20] narnarfromnarnia : okay mark price is considerably lower than current price though
[2016-12-24 00:49:27] narnarfromnarnia : got it thanks
[2016-12-24 00:49:42] Hawkeye : narnarfromnarnia: means they calculate there is a certain risk so its lower
[2016-12-24 00:50:39] justinlooking : Hawkeye: realising some profit and putting position back on moves you backwards in adl queue
[2016-12-24 00:50:42] BitMEX_Sam : No, mark price is just based on the indices
[2016-12-24 00:50:59] BitMEX_Sam : We're trading above the indices because there is significant positive sentiment.
[2016-12-24 00:51:07] justinlooking : always be trading ;)
[2016-12-24 00:51:34] Hawkeye : justinlooking: thnx ;) but its a nice one to hold (got sell orders booked in already)
[2016-12-24 00:51:48] Hawkeye : you guys just need to raise the price enough so they get hit so get buying !
[2016-12-24 00:51:50] mjones : china dont dump. too soon
[2016-12-24 00:53:48] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: what do you guys think about higher discount for bulk API calls? 3x or 4x instead of 2x?
[2016-12-24 00:54:01] BitMEX_Sam : miramm1115: That's a possibility - are you hitting your limits?
[2016-12-24 00:54:31] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: yeah, had to reduce how many per side I'm quoting
[2016-12-24 00:54:55] mjones : i was the maker earlier. that's how i gained some btc :) usually I'm a market buying and selling madman
[2016-12-24 00:54:59] BitMEX_Sam : Ah that's not great - this account or another one? If you don't want to share that in public feel free to send an email and we'll take care of you
[2016-12-24 00:55:12] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: will send an email
[2016-12-24 00:55:16] BitMEX_Sam : :+1:
[2016-12-24 00:57:02] zanza : https://s24.postimg.org/r4jyj0rdh/ethcrash.png
[2016-12-24 00:57:46] zanza : .375% cioming up!
[2016-12-24 00:58:23] mjones : yeah buddy. longers will get a nice christmas surprise
[2016-12-24 00:58:52] mjones : and yeah that eth whale is holding down the price to get a few more orders filled before it goes back up to a billion dollar market cap
[2016-12-24 00:59:14] MikeHunt : can i see market depth on bitmex?
[2016-12-24 01:00:24] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: email sent
[2016-12-24 01:00:27] justinlooking : MikeHunt: you mean the orderbook/
[2016-12-24 01:00:51] MikeHunt : the way zanza had it in his picture
[2016-12-24 01:01:28] zanza : i think advanced layout wiill do it
[2016-12-24 01:02:10] justinlooking : well orderbook has it in price column, just oriented differently
[2016-12-24 01:02:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 8000 @ 6554.5
[2016-12-24 01:03:13] mjones : MikeHunt: just click the arrow next to the gear icon on the top right of the orderbook
[2016-12-24 01:03:20] mjones : i think that's the best we got
[2016-12-24 01:03:57] mjones : because that picture was from poloniex
[2016-12-24 01:04:03] MikeHunt : thats just makes it bigger?
[2016-12-24 01:04:10] mjones : you can see all the orders though
[2016-12-24 01:04:19] narnarfromnarnia : BitMEX_Sam: why does the mark price keep changing?
[2016-12-24 01:04:43] BitMEX_Sam : narnarfromnarnia: Because it is based on other Bitcoin exchanges, which keep changing in price
[2016-12-24 01:04:55] BitMEX_Sam : See http://bitmex.kaiko.com/
[2016-12-24 01:06:12] arbitrage001 : Good morning, fellow trolls
[2016-12-24 01:06:19] arbitrage001 : how is everyone doing
[2016-12-24 01:06:25] arbitrage001 : getting fuber rich?
[2016-12-24 01:06:55] imapotato : Decent
[2016-12-24 01:07:29] MikeHunt : so do you think Eth is going to go up once that whale gets out the way?
[2016-12-24 01:07:35] imapotato : Wish we had NMC derivatives, but BTCUSD will work
[2016-12-24 01:08:19] mjones : BitMEX_Sam: so okcoin price is from okcoin.com usd?
[2016-12-24 01:08:41] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2016-12-24 01:09:02] mjones : oh shit. i just got spezed
[2016-12-24 01:09:58] l3f : arbitrage001: getting there
[2016-12-24 01:14:59] narnarfromnarnia : getting sell heavy on bfx - https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
[2016-12-24 01:15:31] arbitrage001 : narnarfromnarnia: care to explain what those number mean
[2016-12-24 01:15:52] narnarfromnarnia : arbitrage001: usually when i see heavy on either direction
[2016-12-24 01:15:59] narnarfromnarnia : things can go in either direction
[2016-12-24 01:15:59] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-24 01:16:17] arbitrage001 : then those number are meaningless
[2016-12-24 01:16:49] narnarfromnarnia : more sale positions open than buy?
[2016-12-24 01:16:55] narnarfromnarnia : i think any and all data is useful
[2016-12-24 01:17:37] immackay : as usual, I go to sleep and lose money
[2016-12-24 01:17:49] arbitrage001 : immackay: you shorted?
[2016-12-24 01:17:49] immackay : just shoot me already
[2016-12-24 01:18:09] narnarfromnarnia : immackay: sorry to hear man
[2016-12-24 01:18:12] arbitrage001 : well iwent to bed, price went down to 876
[2016-12-24 01:18:22] immackay : arbitrage001: I had a long back at 905 with a stop loss at 900 to protect from the dumo
[2016-12-24 01:18:24] arbitrage001 : expect to get fill at 868 but didnt
[2016-12-24 01:18:24] immackay : dump
[2016-12-24 01:18:36] arbitrage001 : immackay: you get liquidated?
[2016-12-24 01:18:55] immackay : arbitrage001: nah it just triggered my stop loss
[2016-12-24 01:19:01] immackay : still pissed though
[2016-12-24 01:19:16] immackay : somehow I've managed to lose money on every trade the last two days
[2016-12-24 01:19:30] immackay : after a day of glorious returns
[2016-12-24 01:19:41] arbitrage001 : leverage traders get slaughtered regardless of market condition
[2016-12-24 01:19:50] immackay : seems like it
[2016-12-24 01:29:17] Angelika : hello boys
[2016-12-24 01:30:28] mjones : bitfinex volume so low those numbers dont mean much
[2016-12-24 01:31:06] arbitrage001 : bfx platform is unusuable when market move
[2016-12-24 01:36:59] narnarfromnarnia : what's china going to do when they wake up
[2016-12-24 01:37:08] Adriana : Angelika: I bet you are a man
[2016-12-24 01:37:26] Angelika : of course I am
[2016-12-24 01:37:39] Angelika : I am Rado's transgender wife
[2016-12-24 01:40:23] l3f : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s9hJmp3NkE&feature=youtu.be
[2016-12-24 01:46:10] Adriana : Duuuuuump!
[2016-12-24 01:47:20] javierstone : hahah nope
[2016-12-24 01:49:47] ett1 : good morning, asia
[2016-12-24 01:52:50] ett1 : l3f: nice
[2016-12-24 02:09:05] Coconuter : buy any dip
[2016-12-24 02:09:55] arbitrage001 : stay strong, bulls !
[2016-12-24 02:09:59] arbitrage001 : buy the dip
[2016-12-24 02:10:05] Coconuter : sold my pants
[2016-12-24 02:10:07] arbitrage001 : we will make new high soon
[2016-12-24 02:10:08] Coconuter : to buy the dips
[2016-12-24 02:10:13] arbitrage001 : sell your wife and kids
[2016-12-24 02:13:05] mohameda : can someone help me understand leverage a bit better, if i had a short with 100 BTC worth, with 100x and it went down 20 percent
[2016-12-24 02:13:15] mohameda : how much would i have made?
[2016-12-24 02:13:38] arbitrage001 : mohameda: you will make 2000%
[2016-12-24 02:13:38] mjones : hope 6500 cny holds
[2016-12-24 02:13:51] arbitrage001 : 20% X 100 times leverage
[2016-12-24 02:13:52] mohameda : arbitrage001: thanks bro
[2016-12-24 02:22:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 20656 @ 6793.1
[2016-12-24 02:23:19] mjones : another rekt. high leverage longing the top. when you just cant wait for a dip.
[2016-12-24 02:25:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 9000 @ 6507.8
[2016-12-24 02:25:31] mjones : is this the dump
[2016-12-24 02:26:02] MrRGnome : I don't think so.
[2016-12-24 02:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 82100 @ 907.67 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-24 02:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1 @ 907.32 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-24 02:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 75343 @ 907.41 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-24 02:26:03] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2016-12-24 02:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 370 @ 907.65
[2016-12-24 02:26:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 13828 @ 907.18
[2016-12-24 02:26:08] mjones : Let's play dump or dip
[2016-12-24 02:26:10] immackay : there we go
[2016-12-24 02:26:21] MrRGnome : I think it's a dip
[2016-12-24 02:26:21] Coconuter : long
[2016-12-24 02:26:27] ayy_lmao : damn that went fast
[2016-12-24 02:26:30] immackay : another dip lol
[2016-12-24 02:26:37] mjones : 907 lol. Was like 740 not that long ago
[2016-12-24 02:26:45] mjones : 940*
[2016-12-24 02:27:05] Coconuter : lets go bitcoin god
[2016-12-24 02:27:13] Coconuter : pump that mofo
[2016-12-24 02:28:09] MrRGnome : I kind of hope we consolidate in the low 900s before we take a run at 1000
[2016-12-24 02:28:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 50 @ 6742.1
[2016-12-24 02:28:40] Coconuter : bitmex was much higher
[2016-12-24 02:28:49] Coconuter : now its equal
[2016-12-24 02:29:11] Coconuter : now they change exchanges
[2016-12-24 02:29:18] Coconuter : and long others first
[2016-12-24 02:29:28] Coconuter : this will follow
[2016-12-24 02:29:57] Coconuter : even tho this has no usd convertion
[2016-12-24 02:30:19] Coconuter : im sure theres a way to profit with this spread for people inside the wheel
[2016-12-24 02:30:21] Coconuter : =)
[2016-12-24 02:30:29] Coconuter : maybe a internal contract of convertion
[2016-12-24 02:30:34] Coconuter : something like that
[2016-12-24 02:32:44] narnarfromnarnia : just exited my short
[2016-12-24 02:32:52] narnarfromnarnia : missed that very bottom 905 though damn
[2016-12-24 02:33:02] zanza : whY? you are about to get some sweet .375% funding
[2016-12-24 02:33:04] shery : narnarfromnarnia: Good mroning how is your 880 short??
[2016-12-24 02:33:21] narnarfromnarnia : shery: i shorted from 902 > 878
[2016-12-24 02:33:29] narnarfromnarnia : i got too excited to re-open a long
[2016-12-24 02:33:35] shery : narnarfromnarnia: you also shorted at 88