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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2016-12-23 17:28:34] javierstone : how's the sharts doing fellas
[2016-12-23 17:28:44] l3f : that bought the dip
[2016-12-23 17:28:50] l3f : gj
[2016-12-23 17:29:46] l3f : we migjt still get rekt tho
[2016-12-23 17:29:49] l3f : just prepare your bodies
[2016-12-23 17:30:21] narnarfromnarnia : woop
[2016-12-23 17:30:26] narnarfromnarnia : paying attention to china now
[2016-12-23 17:31:35] anonymous789 : perfect time for bounce
[2016-12-23 17:31:46] anonymous789 : right on the hourly SMA in china
[2016-12-23 17:32:04] anonymous789 : last few rallies we've had have bounced off the SMA
[2016-12-23 17:32:19] elmorte : javierstone: which interview is that?
[2016-12-23 17:32:42] elmorte : found it
[2016-12-23 17:39:32] javierstone : elmorte: its scary af
[2016-12-23 17:41:19] elmorte : which part?
[2016-12-23 17:41:38] elmorte : Dec 11th, 9min interview?
[2016-12-23 17:42:13] narnarfromnarnia : feel bad for whoever sold me 40k at 878
[2016-12-23 17:42:49] elmorte : then give it back :p
[2016-12-23 17:44:17] narnarfromnarnia : shery: !!
[2016-12-23 17:45:18] Pacura : did my first ever trade. what a ride...my shit was shitting...
[2016-12-23 17:45:49] elmorte : Pacura: haha...how big?
[2016-12-23 17:45:51] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
[2016-12-23 17:45:54] narnarfromnarnia : 1hr sells building
[2016-12-23 17:46:02] narnarfromnarnia : shorts opening again
[2016-12-23 17:46:12] Pacura : nothing that big, trying to learn how to do this...
[2016-12-23 17:46:38] Pacura : trade wise
[2016-12-23 17:46:42] elmorte : then where's the excitement :p
[2016-12-23 17:47:00] Pacura : but the toilet bowl looked like an iceberg...just 5% out of the water....lol
[2016-12-23 17:47:13] elmorte : haha
[2016-12-23 17:47:17] elmorte : did you market close?
[2016-12-23 17:47:36] Pacura : yep. then once again after....now trying for a third.
[2016-12-23 17:47:54] narnarfromnarnia : Pacura: try to just wait for a good clear entry
[2016-12-23 17:48:05] narnarfromnarnia : patients really is key
[2016-12-23 17:48:11] narnarfromnarnia : coming from someone with ADHD
[2016-12-23 17:48:39] Pacura : yeah, that is why i am doing small bets and hanging with my chat group...have some more to learn chart wise
[2016-12-23 17:48:51] elmorte : yeah, but patience comes with experience
[2016-12-23 17:49:05] ett1 : ye patience is the key. try and time it so you enter at a level, where price wont dip below the entry
[2016-12-23 17:49:08] narnarfromnarnia : experience getting rekt
[2016-12-23 17:49:11] elmorte : I'm pretty sure I market closed when my first trade was in the green....
[2016-12-23 17:49:24] narnarfromnarnia : or rise below the shart @ett1
[2016-12-23 17:49:32] elmorte : It was like, fck I can make money just clicking!
[2016-12-23 17:49:40] narnarfromnarnia : i opened short a bit too soon but it's forming now
[2016-12-23 17:49:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 893.25
[2016-12-23 17:49:54] narnarfromnarnia : here comes the rekts
[2016-12-23 17:50:09] elmorte : I just check the Chinese chat for rekts now
[2016-12-23 17:50:27] narnarfromnarnia : chinese chat you mean
[2016-12-23 17:50:47] elmorte : No, Chinese chat
[2016-12-23 17:50:59] narnarfromnarnia : i got rekt earlier opening a trade on the wrong window
[2016-12-23 17:51:01] narnarfromnarnia : futures lol
[2016-12-23 17:51:05] narnarfromnarnia : watching charts on normal
[2016-12-23 17:51:12] narnarfromnarnia : i never felt so tard
[2016-12-23 17:51:19] elmorte : dude, I freaked myself out so many times looking at the wrong contract
[2016-12-23 17:51:35] narnarfromnarnia : futures went from 850 to 900 in no time
[2016-12-23 17:51:40] narnarfromnarnia : that's some crazy trading
[2016-12-23 17:52:07] kbrn : how do you set 20x?
[2016-12-23 17:52:26] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-23 17:52:31] narnarfromnarnia : be careful dude
[2016-12-23 17:52:35] m3s : click the right icon paralel to leverape sliter
[2016-12-23 17:52:37] elmorte : kbrn: see that little siren up top right?
[2016-12-23 17:52:39] ett1 : just do 25x
[2016-12-23 17:53:01] elmorte : Click on it and it answers the question most important to you...
[2016-12-23 17:53:01] kbrn : thank you
[2016-12-23 17:53:22] kbrn : i have a little position guys dont worry
[2016-12-23 17:54:39] kbrn : 25x looks too much
[2016-12-23 17:55:02] elmorte : Just use cross, unless you're really speculating
[2016-12-23 17:55:29] elmorte : XBJ is getting discontinued then, eh?
[2016-12-23 17:57:29] Hawkeye : can someone tell me when i am seen as maker and when as taker? ticking POS only makes me automatic maker ?
[2016-12-23 17:58:00] elmorte : Hawkeye: correct
[2016-12-23 17:58:08] Hawkeye : or does it need a timeframe to be in the books before its seen as maker bid/ask ?
[2016-12-23 17:58:16] elmorte : If you order would match then it gets cancelled immediately
[2016-12-23 17:58:29] elmorte : no timeframe
[2016-12-23 17:58:35] Hawkeye : ok so even a sec in the books still counts.. cool :) been doing it correctly then
[2016-12-23 17:58:40] elmorte : yup
[2016-12-23 17:58:40] BitMEX_Sam : Timeframe is anything >0, essentially
[2016-12-23 17:58:48] Hawkeye : so maker trading is basicly free (get a bonus)
[2016-12-23 17:59:03] Hawkeye : excl interest ofc
[2016-12-23 17:59:06] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: Sup Sam! What's the Xmas plans?
[2016-12-23 17:59:18] Hawkeye : And Hi sam :)
[2016-12-23 17:59:22] Hawkeye : Thnx Elmorte
[2016-12-23 17:59:27] BitMEX_Sam : Hopefully not to work all weekend, but Bitcoin's on a tear
[2016-12-23 17:59:31] elmorte : Hawkeye: no worries bud
[2016-12-23 17:59:49] Hawkeye : sam: have to compliment the exchange, i like the way it works :)
[2016-12-23 17:59:57] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: you mean your side job at finex? Keeping their website running?
[2016-12-23 18:00:18] BitMEX_Sam : Ahaha, to be fair to them they have made quite a few improvements to their site in the last 3mo
[2016-12-23 18:00:23] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks @Hawkeye
[2016-12-23 18:00:34] elmorte : Wouldn't know :)
[2016-12-23 18:00:51] Hawkeye : if i get more comfortable i might increase my funds on here (on 3 echanges now)
[2016-12-23 18:01:44] BitMEX_Sam : Hawkeye: :+1:
[2016-12-23 18:02:06] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: They've had stability issues to be sure but their site has finally gotten pretty good; in fact, it looks a lot like BitMEX now
[2016-12-23 18:03:15] Hawkeye : Go advice kraken to do some reworking too ;)
[2016-12-23 18:03:16] elmorte : I don't know man...fool me once, shame on you...
[2016-12-23 18:03:27] Hawkeye : and btc-e.... thats almost an ancient site
[2016-12-23 18:03:29] javierstone : here we go
[2016-12-23 18:03:48] elmorte : Hawkeye: btc-e works perfectly :) minimalist to the core
[2016-12-23 18:04:02] Hawkeye : true and i use the metatrader there :)
[2016-12-23 18:04:42] Hawkeye : but still i like to see financial details, a risk/reward reminder in the confirmation etc etc bitmex is really really above expectations on that
[2016-12-23 18:04:55] BitMEX_Sam : btc-e does a great job of making money
[2016-12-23 18:05:17] BitMEX_Sam : Most people forget about xbtce as well
[2016-12-23 18:05:27] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: basically I didn't heed the first warning, so the second time they went down cost me a lot. I refuse to give them another chance to screw me over...is that just ego fckin with me?
[2016-12-23 18:06:02] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: No, that's being reasonable, IMO more traders should shun the exchanges that abuse them
[2016-12-23 18:06:11] elmorte : Cheers
[2016-12-23 18:16:15] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: Why is the margin on my XBCH17 is close to 5% while for XBTH17 is around 1%?
[2016-12-23 18:16:52] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: Depends on your unrealised profit
[2016-12-23 18:17:01] elmorte : How so?
[2016-12-23 18:17:23] BitMEX_Sam : Unrealised profit is kept assigned to the position. You can also adjust your margin by moving the leverage slider.
[2016-12-23 18:17:47] elmorte : I'm on cross and I'm cool with that...
[2016-12-23 18:18:18] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, so what that means is that one position has more unrealised profit than the other, so its effective leverage is lower due to that
[2016-12-23 18:19:22] elmorte : Plain english? My profitable position has a higher margin then my losing one...
[2016-12-23 18:19:32] elmorte : I'm trying to understand
[2016-12-23 18:19:36] aaaaa : what do you mean when you say you are on cross @elmorte ???
[2016-12-23 18:19:55] elmorte : aaaaa: you know, like Good Friday
[2016-12-23 18:20:09] BitMEX_Sam : Where are you getting this 5% from @elmorte - which column?
[2016-12-23 18:20:27] elmorte : Margin / Position Value
[2016-12-23 18:20:56] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, so the profitable position has more margin assigned to it, because it has the initial margin you put in when you opened it, plus profit
[2016-12-23 18:21:07] BitMEX_Sam : so effectively you have less leverage because of the profit.
[2016-12-23 18:21:15] aaaaa : "I'm on cross" is like I am feeling good?
[2016-12-23 18:21:47] elmorte : aha, so my UPnL is in my margin....so what would that lower my available balance?
[2016-12-23 18:22:02] elmorte : aaaaa: I;m on cross margin, means using all my available funds
[2016-12-23 18:22:24] QuantFocus : huge position reductions from top holders on OKC. is the top in?
[2016-12-23 18:22:33] QuantFocus : I feel like we get one more push today
[2016-12-23 18:22:42] elmorte : so would that lower my available balance? Basically, would that affect the liqd position for other contracts? @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-12-23 18:22:57] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: Unrealised PNL increases your Margin Balance, but then it goes into the Position Margin so your Available Balance stays the same
[2016-12-23 18:25:02] elmorte : Ok...I have to empirically test that @BitMEX_Wally :)
[2016-12-23 18:25:24] wurstgelee : u dont need
[2016-12-23 18:25:27] wurstgelee : its correct ;)
[2016-12-23 18:27:02] elmorte : So if I close the contract and reopen it at the same price, my available balance would remain the same? I'm not so sure...
[2016-12-23 18:27:03] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: Feel free to make a Testnet account and ratchet up a few positions to get a feel for it
[2016-12-23 18:27:11] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: word
[2016-12-23 18:27:21] elmorte : I need to get a profitable position first...
[2016-12-23 18:27:41] QuantFocus : elmorte: amen brother
[2016-12-23 18:27:54] BitMEX_Wally : elmorte: If you close and re-open then you would release the unrealisedPNL as realisedPNL
[2016-12-23 18:27:58] BitMEX_Wally : So your available balance would increase
[2016-12-23 18:28:04] inconspic : any1 got a good chart/sheet for zcash supply over time?
[2016-12-23 18:28:13] BitMEX_Sam : Well... go long XBTUSD and short XBTH17 on testnet - one of them will be profitable, eh?
[2016-12-23 18:28:44] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: Yah, which would give me more breathing space with liqd prices...
[2016-12-23 18:28:56] m3s : yawn
[2016-12-23 18:29:05] m3s : cmon BTC dump or pump :D
[2016-12-23 18:29:10] BitMEX_Wally : Basically all unrealisedPNL is locked into the position as position margin, but we are working on improving our risk system to let this be unlocked by resetting the leverage
[2016-12-23 18:29:14] BitMEX_Wally : Then you could use it on other positions
[2016-12-23 18:29:32] elmorte : Yeah, there used to be the rebalance
[2016-12-23 18:30:26] QuantFocus : why is DASH so resilient?
[2016-12-23 18:30:34] QuantFocus : these are the important questions in life.
[2016-12-23 18:40:07] elmorte : I never got into Dash...guess that crypto newscycle skipped me....that was after ETH?
[2016-12-23 18:40:50] elmorte : Speaking of alts, where's the hell's @jung1?
[2016-12-23 18:45:35] NL007 : hi
[2016-12-23 18:46:24] elmorte : How you doing?
[2016-12-23 18:50:27] nOgAnOo : Hey all
[2016-12-23 18:50:36] nOgAnOo : So I ended up making 700% my first night trading here
[2016-12-23 18:50:46] nOgAnOo : I should be showing up on the leaderboard soon
[2016-12-23 18:51:06] QuantFocus : nOgAnOo: don't worry, you'll lose it all before you make leaderboard
[2016-12-23 18:51:19] m3s : nOgAnOo: gg grats
[2016-12-23 18:51:25] nOgAnOo : I already cashed out all the profit. Thanks m3s
[2016-12-23 18:51:42] QuantFocus : u wot m8?
[2016-12-23 18:51:59] nOgAnOo : Cashing out, it's when you sell your Bitcoin to buy weed
[2016-12-23 18:52:17] QuantFocus : if you like weed, you should check out cannabisrevolution.us
[2016-12-23 18:52:21] QuantFocus : Tokes Platform project
[2016-12-23 18:52:35] nOgAnOo : Ok I'll check it.. I made 20 new breeds myself
[2016-12-23 18:52:41] QuantFocus : These guys are professional. I dumped some btc into the ICO
[2016-12-23 18:53:24] nOgAnOo : Yeah now that I made some BitCredits I'm gonna diversify like 5-10 dollars into a lot of different assets
[2016-12-23 18:53:35] m3s : lol
[2016-12-23 18:53:47] nOgAnOo : Wait for those 40x pumps :)
[2016-12-23 18:54:01] elmorte : Weed's a gateway drug...just skip straight to the real thing
[2016-12-23 18:54:17] m3s : hes already here so too late now
[2016-12-23 18:54:17] QuantFocus : don't do meth like @elmorte
[2016-12-23 18:54:40] nOgAnOo : Word
[2016-12-23 18:54:42] rustiv : weed is the one and only drug
[2016-12-23 18:55:04] nOgAnOo : I agree, I got some vicodin for my dental surgery and never used
[2016-12-23 18:55:17] elmorte : QuantFocus: total double meaning to that
[2016-12-23 18:55:27] anonymous789 : real traders snort cocaine
[2016-12-23 18:55:33] nOgAnOo : But in all reality there is no better high than 200x yen trading
[2016-12-23 18:55:55] elmorte : anonymous789: no, their bosses do
[2016-12-23 18:56:42] QuantFocus : i'm out for a bit. you guys take it easy on the leverage
[2016-12-23 18:56:48] nOgAnOo : Fill me at 898, friends
[2016-12-23 18:57:22] nOgAnOo : Thank you.
[2016-12-23 18:57:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 897.48
[2016-12-23 18:58:12] QuantFocus : :+1:
[2016-12-23 18:58:40] Hawkeye : there is a leaderboard?
[2016-12-23 18:59:22] aaaaa : https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard
[2016-12-23 18:59:24] elmorte : Yeah, annual prizes too
[2016-12-23 18:59:34] QuantFocus : anal prizes*
[2016-12-23 18:59:44] QuantFocus : butt finesse
[2016-12-23 19:01:21] Hawkeye : lol
[2016-12-23 19:01:33] Hawkeye : How to make it even more like a game ;)
[2016-12-23 19:01:36] elmorte : Tough competition though...to win the biggest liquidation, you had to lose like 300BTC?
[2016-12-23 19:01:53] Hawkeye : ohh i wont be able to compete against a 300btc loss ;)
[2016-12-23 19:02:14] Hawkeye : or is it 300btc position loss?
[2016-12-23 19:02:22] Hawkeye : then i might be a contender eventually
[2016-12-23 19:02:28] elmorte : Nope, not position
[2016-12-23 19:02:40] elmorte : Actual wallet money
[2016-12-23 19:02:43] Hawkeye : oh then i wont show up anywhere near that record ;)
[2016-12-23 19:03:05] m3s : that must have hurt
[2016-12-23 19:03:09] Hawkeye : max i had (and that was on ATH and before i got goxed) was 100btc
[2016-12-23 19:03:15] rapidtrades : guys i step out for 1 sec and u already surrendered 900
[2016-12-23 19:04:01] Hawkeye : rapidtrades: and then some more
[2016-12-23 19:04:48] Hawkeye : dont think we'll stay below 900 for very long though
[2016-12-23 19:04:53] elmorte : Hawkeye: if you're new, it's probably not advise to poke rapid
[2016-12-23 19:05:02] elmorte : advised even
[2016-12-23 19:05:08] Hawkeye : he bites? :)
[2016-12-23 19:05:14] elmorte : oh boy
[2016-12-23 19:05:34] elmorte : especially when he shorts a bull run
[2016-12-23 19:05:59] Hawkeye : oh then he'll be my bestest friend ;) i dont short in a bull trend
[2016-12-23 19:06:21] Hawkeye : and if i want a dip i'll just distract him
[2016-12-23 19:08:04] tb : ok bois
[2016-12-23 19:08:07] tb : time to yolo 100x short
[2016-12-23 19:08:17] narnarfromnarnia : tb: lol
[2016-12-23 19:08:25] narnarfromnarnia : i did 50x on that last drop
[2016-12-23 19:08:30] narnarfromnarnia : 904 > 878
[2016-12-23 19:08:39] narnarfromnarnia : best trade ever made
[2016-12-23 19:08:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 80 @ 892.34
[2016-12-23 19:09:18] tb : how much did you make?
[2016-12-23 19:10:36] anonymous789 : this selling off just for funding rate?
[2016-12-23 19:10:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 78147 @ 890.99 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-23 19:11:00] Hawkeye : anonymous789: china is dropping
[2016-12-23 19:11:01] elmorte : anonymous789: too early
[2016-12-23 19:11:14] Hawkeye : looks like a bear trap so far
[2016-12-23 19:11:23] anonymous789 : Hawkeye: going back up in cny
[2016-12-23 19:12:27] Hawkeye : i am still playing on the site to get a feel of it so i am not very deep in margin so should be safe (i know famous last words)
[2016-12-23 19:12:46] Hawkeye : started yesterday i think
[2016-12-23 19:13:04] Hawkeye : or day before... it gets blurry without much sleep ;)
[2016-12-23 19:13:30] anonymous789 : looks like a bull flag + falling wedge on cny
[2016-12-23 19:13:35] m3s : just long and have a stoploss, than you can sleep easy
[2016-12-23 19:13:39] dodic : what index is leading drop?
[2016-12-23 19:13:50] cookielito : bitstamp did last time
[2016-12-23 19:13:50] elmorte : Hawkeye: count days by candlesticks
[2016-12-23 19:14:08] anonymous789 : hourly*
[2016-12-23 19:14:29] dodic : bitstamp again
[2016-12-23 19:14:31] Hawkeye : lol elmorte
[2016-12-23 19:15:13] Hawkeye : ah dec 21 i made first deposit...
[2016-12-23 19:15:20] Hawkeye : good thing they log stuff
[2016-12-23 19:16:48] justinlooking : http://imgur.com/a/sxKMC
[2016-12-23 19:17:44] tb : what is this photo @justinlooking
[2016-12-23 19:18:02] elmorte : Jan 22 my first deposit...Jan 25 my first liquidation
[2016-12-23 19:18:11] Hawkeye : lol
[2016-12-23 19:18:21] justinlooking : BitMEX_Wally BitMEX_Sam can u get bitmex added to tradeblock plz. i mailed them a few times....
[2016-12-23 19:19:36] Hawkeye : i hope i wont get liq any time soon.... but i do plan to take more risks on this exchange and keep the other 2 exchanges as a safer trading setup
[2016-12-23 19:19:38] justinlooking : tb: a multiexchange L2 visualzation tool
[2016-12-23 19:20:09] Hawkeye : seems liquidity is pretty good here , at least for my size :)
[2016-12-23 19:20:15] tb : justinlooking: why is the caption "rapid is so short?"
[2016-12-23 19:20:25] elmorte : Hawkeye: my problem was not enough margin. Flash crashes caused both of my liqds
[2016-12-23 19:20:51] elmorte : Since then, I try to keep ample balance on here
[2016-12-23 19:21:02] Hawkeye : i was 3$ off my liq earlier so i added some funds to make it less risky :)
[2016-12-23 19:21:09] justinlooking : tb: um... because we rallied
[2016-12-23 19:21:23] elmorte : tb: huh?
[2016-12-23 19:22:16] rapidtrades : what caption
[2016-12-23 19:23:42] tb : justin posted this: http://imgur.com/a/sxKMC
[2016-12-23 19:24:20] rapidtrades : justin?
[2016-12-23 19:24:32] rapidtrades : i thought that was just looking
[2016-12-23 19:24:58] elmorte : blew that one rapid :(
[2016-12-23 19:25:10] elmorte : it had potential too...
[2016-12-23 19:26:00] rapidtrades : like what?
[2016-12-23 19:26:47] elmorte : justin who?
[2016-12-23 19:27:39] elmorte : loo king
[2016-12-23 19:28:36] elmorte : anyway, you had to be there
[2016-12-23 19:31:35] elmorte : rapidtrades: yo, so what don't you think that yuan futures matter?
[2016-12-23 19:33:22] cryptomad : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/trump-picks-a-bitcoin-supporter-for-cabinet-as-u-s-budget-director/ $900 coming soon.
[2016-12-23 19:34:40] narnarfromnarnia : not going to open another position for a while
[2016-12-23 19:34:46] narnarfromnarnia : this is just going to be choppy
[2016-12-23 19:35:19] elmorte : narnarfromnarnia: then open two opposite ones
[2016-12-23 19:35:37] narnarfromnarnia : i just took a .15 loss to be done for the day
[2016-12-23 19:36:00] narnarfromnarnia : probably won't be any major movements
[2016-12-23 19:36:13] elmorte : that's gonna be 10,000 in a few years...
[2016-12-23 19:36:20] elmorte : 150,000 rather
[2016-12-23 19:37:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 33 @ 895.21
[2016-12-23 19:38:56] elmorte : Has anyone written a calc that tells you how much you would pay on a market close based on the order book?
[2016-12-23 19:39:42] elmorte : That would be interesting as f, to compare to your UP&L
[2016-12-23 19:47:14] jesperf : isn't that like asking if anyone actually checks what the price is before paying for something
[2016-12-23 19:48:08] elmorte : It's kinda like quantum physics...by the time you check, the position has changed
[2016-12-23 19:48:31] rms : so... pump when china wakes up?
[2016-12-23 19:50:11] cookielito : pretty much
[2016-12-23 19:50:29] cookielito : mandela effect positions?
[2016-12-23 19:50:57] elmorte : Since he passed away?
[2016-12-23 19:51:23] elmorte : I guess some ppl are immortal
[2016-12-23 19:51:53] elmorte : I'm waiting for that Gandhi cloud
[2016-12-23 19:54:14] elmorte : But I'm gonna sleep after this drink before wifey comes out to look for me...
[2016-12-23 20:07:38] Hawkeye : only 9PM here so i will be on for another 7 hrs or so
[2016-12-23 20:08:05] elmorte : just past 4am here
[2016-12-23 20:08:18] Hawkeye : yea thats usually when i try to head in too
[2016-12-23 20:08:28] Hawkeye : then china messes with me... every day ....
[2016-12-23 20:08:31] elmorte : :thumbsup:
[2016-12-23 20:09:11] elmorte : I'm not Chinese, but my only holiday is Chinese New Year
[2016-12-23 20:09:50] Hawkeye : any quiet day i call a holliday :) the hollidays themselves are usually not in that list
[2016-12-23 20:10:10] rapidtrades : I fc*king hate holidays
[2016-12-23 20:10:26] Hawkeye : See we'll get along just fine ;)
[2016-12-23 20:10:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.001189
[2016-12-23 20:55:19] cookielito : I bet theres another friggen bear trap right around the corner
[2016-12-23 20:56:28] Hawkeye : as log as its just a trap and no real dump its a great buy opportunity
[2016-12-23 21:00:29] Hawkeye : with a bit of luck we might hit 1k this weekend
[2016-12-23 21:04:35] anonymous789 : https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
[2016-12-23 21:04:40] anonymous789 : looks like buys loading up on the hourly
[2016-12-23 21:08:10] Nerve : Looks great
[2016-12-23 21:09:26] anonymous789 : todays price action was almost identical to yesterday's price action
[2016-12-23 21:09:38] Nerve : so are we hitting $950 in this early chinese morning ?
[2016-12-23 21:10:05] Nerve : what do you think guys ?
[2016-12-23 21:10:08] anonymous789 : dunno about 950 but does look like a breakout of this falling wedge to continue the uptrend is coming soon
[2016-12-23 21:10:26] jesperf : without a doubt
[2016-12-23 21:10:30] jesperf : outlook good
[2016-12-23 21:10:45] jesperf : ask again later
[2016-12-23 21:10:45] anonymous789 : and buyers loading up
[2016-12-23 21:10:57] Nerve : I'm long frim 2 days 25x
[2016-12-23 21:11:07] mjones : lol btc
[2016-12-23 21:11:16] mjones : someone woke up early in china
[2016-12-23 21:11:22] anonymous789 : 6400
[2016-12-23 21:11:22] mjones : early bird gets the cheap bitcoin
[2016-12-23 21:11:23] anonymous789 : cny
[2016-12-23 21:11:35] Nerve : LOL
[2016-12-23 21:11:42] anonymous789 : let's see if it's a fakeout
[2016-12-23 21:11:45] jesperf : santa visits china first remember
[2016-12-23 21:11:49] Nerve : nightwallkers
[2016-12-23 21:11:53] Nerve : lol
[2016-12-23 21:13:16] Turbo : i'm thinking giant stair step, might be quiet for a while
[2016-12-23 21:15:12] anonymous789 : cny breaking above wedge, see if this is a true breakout in the next hour
[2016-12-23 21:15:19] Nerve : Xbtz16 is going wild LOL
[2016-12-23 21:15:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 900.43
[2016-12-23 21:15:55] Hawkeye : rekt woke up again.... ;)
[2016-12-23 21:15:56] mjones : yeah xbtz16 is $6 higher and settlement is in a week. choo choo
[2016-12-23 21:16:08] Hawkeye : he might get busy the next hrs...
[2016-12-23 21:16:22] Nerve : REKT is getting mad soon ??
[2016-12-23 21:16:55] mjones : xbth17 is up 600,000 contracts in 2 days
[2016-12-23 21:16:57] anonymous789 : bearstamp slow as usual
[2016-12-23 21:17:14] mjones : okcoin 26 cny away from new high
[2016-12-23 21:17:37] mohameda : how do i make it so that the trades are put into the positions tab?
[2016-12-23 21:17:44] bingbongfly : wow what a breakout
[2016-12-23 21:17:45] Hawkeye : new chinese highs.. not bad :)
[2016-12-23 21:17:51] mjones : 45 cny actually.
[2016-12-23 21:18:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 901.67
[2016-12-23 21:18:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 901.68
[2016-12-23 21:18:39] anonymous789 : bingbongfly: wait for next hour for confirmation i think, could still be a decent fakeout
[2016-12-23 21:18:48] mjones : xbth17 is $11 from a new high
[2016-12-23 21:18:58] Hawkeye : fakeouts rarely make new heighs though
[2016-12-23 21:19:13] anonymous789 : it's not a new high?
[2016-12-23 21:19:17] bingbongfly : anonymous789: I managed to buy the dip so pretty safe, I agree it could just be a fakeout
[2016-12-23 21:19:20] Hawkeye : its more the dumps were fakes
[2016-12-23 21:19:29] Hawkeye : as far as you can call any move fake
[2016-12-23 21:19:31] bingbongfly : Guess we'll find out soon
[2016-12-23 21:19:39] Hawkeye : time always reveals it :)
[2016-12-23 21:19:54] anonymous789 : Hawkeye: dumps were textbook movement inside the wedge
[2016-12-23 21:20:02] Hawkeye : for now all my longs are green
[2016-12-23 21:21:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 80699 @ 903.21 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-23 21:22:15] herpinator : wow
[2016-12-23 21:22:42] rms : good morning early risers in china
[2016-12-23 21:22:53] anonymous789 : bearstamp still sitting at 900 lulz
[2016-12-23 21:23:10] mjones : rofl XBTH17
[2016-12-23 21:23:11] bingbongfly : china leading
[2016-12-23 21:23:11] mjones : new high
[2016-12-23 21:23:12] mjones : wtf
[2016-12-23 21:23:24] anonymous789 : breakout looks real
[2016-12-23 21:23:28] mjones : open contracts going up. shorters get fucked
[2016-12-23 21:23:30] oz : why is bitmex trading so much higher then 1/4lys on okcoin lmao
[2016-12-23 21:23:40] anonymous789 : high on okc btw is 6464 cny
[2016-12-23 21:23:44] mjones : people hate okcoin now a days
[2016-12-23 21:23:49] mjones : bitmex the new hotness
[2016-12-23 21:24:09] oz : why does it change o k c o in to okcoin now lol
[2016-12-23 21:24:12] bingbongfly : anonymous789: well not much longer
[2016-12-23 21:24:36] MrRGnome : oz: because that's how it's properly spelt
[2016-12-23 21:24:42] mjones : oz http://i.imgur.com/t0Pw9AN.png
[2016-12-23 21:24:48] wurstgelee : such a wonderful moonm this evening.
[2016-12-23 21:24:50] wurstgelee : again.
[2016-12-23 21:25:00] wurstgelee : how lovely.
[2016-12-23 21:25:03] oz : omg thats my new wallpaper
[2016-12-23 21:25:03] wurstgelee : *sips tea*
[2016-12-23 21:25:12] Hawkeye : 1000 tonight... keep buying ;)
[2016-12-23 21:25:32] MrRGnome : The fact that the last bear trap was so big means we might test 1000 on those liquidations.
[2016-12-23 21:26:01] anonymous789 : it wasn't really that big of a trap was it?
[2016-12-23 21:26:24] Hawkeye : wasnt deep but there was some volume on it
[2016-12-23 21:26:32] wurstgelee : it was an "ok" trap
[2016-12-23 21:26:37] wurstgelee : not the best but ok
[2016-12-23 21:26:41] wurstgelee : good enough to move on imo
[2016-12-23 21:26:42] anonymous789 : yesterday's was pretty big from 875 to 842
[2016-12-23 21:26:44] Hawkeye : lets see if its enough
[2016-12-23 21:27:00] MrRGnome : It spanned almost 50 dollars and had a volume similar to that same 50 dollar rise, I'd say that buys us an additional bit of liquidation if th eprice pushes up
[2016-12-23 21:27:01] Hawkeye : else rinse and repeat ;)
[2016-12-23 21:27:12] wurstgelee : i bought the trap so....up please
[2016-12-23 21:27:20] anonymous789 : hehe
[2016-12-23 21:27:25] wurstgelee : *more up
[2016-12-23 21:28:21] mjones : glad i'm in on xbth17. orderbook is more of a mess than lindsay lohans life
[2016-12-23 21:28:39] anonymous789 : i was actually surprised we fell back below 900 today at all, thought that breaking 900 was psychologically massively bullish
[2016-12-23 21:28:51] mohameda : guys how can i make limit orders for btc etc? i cant figure it out??? it wont show up in my positions tab? is it possible
[2016-12-23 21:28:52] anonymous789 : any buys under 900 in that bear trap should have been bought up
[2016-12-23 21:29:14] anonymous789 : not buys, dips*
[2016-12-23 21:29:15] MrRGnome : just stopping to collect rocket fuel
[2016-12-23 21:29:45] anonymous789 : mohameda: says limit tab next to market tab
[2016-12-23 21:30:43] anonymous789 : anyway this could still be a small fakeout since we're stuck at 6440
[2016-12-23 21:30:55] anonymous789 : or a change of that wedge into more of a channel
[2016-12-23 21:31:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 6122 @ 905.27
[2016-12-23 21:31:58] anonymous789 : next hour reveals all i say :D
[2016-12-23 21:32:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20000 @ 906.90
[2016-12-23 21:33:22] anonymous789 : mex going crazy
[2016-12-23 21:33:38] aaaaa : yeeah
[2016-12-23 21:33:48] aaaaa : what to do?
[2016-12-23 21:34:07] anonymous789 : hold
[2016-12-23 21:34:13] aaaaa : yeaah
[2016-12-23 21:34:19] aaaaa : xd
[2016-12-23 21:34:31] anonymous789 : *insert james hetfield voice* yeaaaa
[2016-12-23 21:34:48] l3f : GOOD MORNING
[2016-12-23 21:34:55] anonymous789 : l3f: GOOD
[2016-12-23 21:34:59] l3f : I see that i'm 230k in profit
[2016-12-23 21:35:03] l3f : well
[2016-12-23 21:35:14] anonymous789 : l3f: /clap hehe
[2016-12-23 21:35:16] l3f : 3.2btc in profit
[2016-12-23 21:35:17] MrRGnome : damn son
[2016-12-23 21:35:29] MrRGnome : pffft haha 3.2 btc
[2016-12-23 21:35:37] l3f : 900 in 4 hours
[2016-12-23 21:35:43] l3f : did it happen?
[2016-12-23 21:35:59] aaaaa : it was 5 hours in fact
[2016-12-23 21:36:22] zanza : 900!
[2016-12-23 21:36:31] l3f : shery: narnarfromnarnia:
[2016-12-23 21:36:38] l3f : BTFO again
[2016-12-23 21:37:48] l3f : shaken but not stirred
[2016-12-23 21:37:50] l3f : I hope we are
[2016-12-23 21:38:19] MrRGnome : Anyone lost their ass in this bubble trying to call a top yet?
[2016-12-23 21:38:40] imapotato : Doubled my long. I think that's enough leverage for Christmas.
[2016-12-23 21:38:41] l3f : MrRGnome: nah but half of the popular of china got stop lossed out
[2016-12-23 21:38:51] l3f : then they got liquiated
[2016-12-23 21:38:56] l3f : and then started shorting
[2016-12-23 21:38:59] l3f : on a fake out
[2016-12-23 21:39:04] l3f : because a -2% move
[2016-12-23 21:39:07] l3f : invalidates the bulltrend
[2016-12-23 21:39:09] l3f : obviously
[2016-12-23 21:39:21] l3f : about 5 hours ago
[2016-12-23 21:39:26] MrRGnome : It was actually really nice how that dip just touched the trend line on my chart
[2016-12-23 21:40:39] MrRGnome : wish I had the balls to gamble in this. I want your balls.
[2016-12-23 21:40:51] anonymous789 : easy, pro trader strategy
[2016-12-23 21:40:53] l3f : If you want a good laugh
[2016-12-23 21:40:54] anonymous789 : just buy the dips
[2016-12-23 21:40:59] l3f : read the archive
[2016-12-23 21:41:10] anonymous789 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0akBdQa55b4
[2016-12-23 21:41:16] MrRGnome : Oh? Some primo rapidtrades content?
[2016-12-23 21:41:39] MrRGnome : The BTFD strategy works great until it doesn't
[2016-12-23 21:42:13] l3f : shit was craycray
[2016-12-23 21:42:19] MrRGnome : I made 10 btc in the rall from 300-500 hundred. Lost 15 BTC in the drop back to 300. No more dip buying for me.
[2016-12-23 21:42:26] l3f : longs were #rekt left and right
[2016-12-23 21:42:52] MrRGnome : gotta get that rocket fuel
[2016-12-23 21:43:05] anonymous789 : :D
[2016-12-23 21:43:07] l3f : MrRGnome: haha yeah I'm going get fucked hard
[2016-12-23 21:43:08] l3f : once day
[2016-12-23 21:43:10] l3f : not not day
[2016-12-23 21:43:10] mjones : MrRGnome: i got 2 hairy black balls for ya
[2016-12-23 21:43:16] mjones : chocolate balls
[2016-12-23 21:43:19] l3f : buying that dip
[2016-12-23 21:43:34] mjones : price goes up 16% and down 2% and people think it's all over.
[2016-12-23 21:44:00] l3f : but really I bought too much on that dip
[2016-12-23 21:44:04] l3f : 150k of futures
[2016-12-23 21:44:06] anonymous789 : mjones: well, it makes sense, because when it will dump, people want to be ahead of the game, it will dump HARD
[2016-12-23 21:44:10] l3f : 85k of swap
[2016-12-23 21:44:15] l3f : that's not good
[2016-12-23 21:44:15] MrRGnome : you'll know it's over when USD and CNY markets converge and we sit less ~30% of the rally's gains
[2016-12-23 21:44:39] mjones : when it dumps hard bitmex will lag so bad that everyone in a high long will get rekt
[2016-12-23 21:44:54] l3f : mjones: stop losses m80
[2016-12-23 21:44:57] mjones : i had lag trying to long that dip not that long ago
[2016-12-23 21:45:00] MrRGnome : That's what happens every bubble. Exchange lag amplifies the market movements and wreckage
[2016-12-23 21:45:08] mjones : good luck using stoploss during a dump where the market maker takes down their walls
[2016-12-23 21:45:18] mjones : i'll buy your order at $750
[2016-12-23 21:45:35] imapotato : Does Bitmex lag? I know the team is solid, but rarely use the exchange.
[2016-12-23 21:45:56] anonymous789 : 1000 will be interesting, i wonder if we make a new top or we shoot for that previous high of like 1200
[2016-12-23 21:46:35] MrRGnome : Bitmex is having more a JS performance issues on my machine.
[2016-12-23 21:46:43] l3f : mjones: haha yeah
[2016-12-23 21:46:47] MrRGnome : Not lag. But the JS profiler is scre
[2016-12-23 21:46:57] MrRGnome : screaming.
[2016-12-23 21:47:16] imapotato : It is a heavy client.
[2016-12-23 21:47:27] aaaaa : double top?
[2016-12-23 21:47:32] tommygunn : sorry 750 is history
[2016-12-23 21:47:32] MrRGnome : I've audited it before, it didn't use to behave this way
[2016-12-23 21:47:53] MrRGnome : I thin they may have introduced some issues in the last fe
[2016-12-23 21:47:59] MrRGnome : few months.
[2016-12-23 21:48:09] imapotato : It's react + Flux, right?
[2016-12-23 21:49:05] l3f : I just want to make it onto the leaderboard
[2016-12-23 21:49:06] l3f : https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard
[2016-12-23 21:49:09] l3f : then I know I've made it
[2016-12-23 21:50:00] rms : ...i caught myself wanting to realize my profit just to make it on there
[2016-12-23 21:50:02] mjones : because the MM removes their orders because they'll just close during ADL to get best possible price
[2016-12-23 21:50:29] mjones : and with the addition of more markets means more margin calls. add in everyone trying to market dump it will be crazy and i'm guessing laggy
[2016-12-23 21:51:07] l3f : mjones: we need those dip buyers
[2016-12-23 21:51:09] l3f : start the education early
[2016-12-23 21:51:14] l3f : exit silently
[2016-12-23 21:51:29] l3f : train the new hords of traders how to buy dips
[2016-12-23 21:51:31] l3f : how to hold
[2016-12-23 21:51:47] l3f : then when the real thing comes, they are the support
[2016-12-23 21:52:09] l3f : was it shakeout? no just me exiting
[2016-12-23 21:52:16] mjones : the dip will be so massive that anyone entering recently on 10x or higher will get called. it's gonna be a shitshow so i just hope i close my long and short it before it happens
[2016-12-23 21:52:22] mjones : dip / dump
[2016-12-23 21:53:35] MrRGnome : has bitmex started publishing their insurance fund numbers for every instrument?
[2016-12-23 21:53:59] MrRGnome : I know they have repeatedly promised it's a priority.
[2016-12-23 21:54:13] l3f : I thought all instruments share a single pool'd insurance
[2016-12-23 21:54:23] MrRGnome : They don't
[2016-12-23 21:54:28] mjones : i dont even think the insurance fund is used
[2016-12-23 21:54:42] l3f : woah no way
[2016-12-23 21:54:45] MrRGnome : It is, it's consumed before ADL occurs
[2016-12-23 21:54:54] mjones : but if it's used on the mega dump it'll be cleared out quickly
[2016-12-23 21:55:07] MrRGnome : Right, so know would be a good time to know how much is in it.
[2016-12-23 21:55:12] MrRGnome : *now
[2016-12-23 21:55:17] mjones : https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceFund
[2016-12-23 21:55:22] l3f : did ya'll shorters close out yet?
[2016-12-23 21:55:34] MrRGnome : That just gives you an aggregate, not the actual insurance fund for an instrument
[2016-12-23 21:55:45] mjones : okcoin has 742 btc in theirs
[2016-12-23 22:00:36] l3f : lol futures price rising
[2016-12-23 22:00:39] l3f : while it's dipping
[2016-12-23 22:02:32] rapidtrades : what the actual f*ck
[2016-12-23 22:02:36] rapidtrades : what a joke of a market
[2016-12-23 22:02:45] rapidtrades : 14 bil market cap my ass
[2016-12-23 22:02:52] rapidtrades : f*cking penny stock
[2016-12-23 22:03:09] l3f : I know right