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[2016-12-23 10:53:00] immackay : we'll reimburse you 10 cents on the dollar for every bitcoin you lost, deal?
[2016-12-23 10:54:08] ett1 : prove the numbers? shut up
[2016-12-23 10:54:46] immackay : ett1: what?
[2016-12-23 10:55:23] ett1 : wouldnt show total BTC, LTC, ETH & USD balances
[2016-12-23 10:55:42] ett1 : so we'd know if 120k btc was actually 36% of the money held
[2016-12-23 10:55:49] ett1 : they were running fractional reserve
[2016-12-23 10:55:54] anonymous789 : breakout soon?
[2016-12-23 10:55:59] elmorte : lol
[2016-12-23 10:56:01] immackay : ett1: ahhh
[2016-12-23 10:56:29] ett1 : or they just stole users account balances and claimed it was 36% lost (120k btc might only have been 10%)
[2016-12-23 10:56:40] ett1 : they stole the rest for themselves, & legal fees buffer
[2016-12-23 10:56:46] ett1 : no proof of the numbers
[2016-12-23 10:56:55] immackay : yeah, pretty sure they're skimming as much as possible before they step out
[2016-12-23 10:57:03] immackay : okcoin will be done by march
[2016-12-23 10:57:05] ett1 : atleast a bankruptcy would be a fair and transparent process
[2016-12-23 10:57:57] immackay : they could likely feign bankruptcy and still steal a whole load of capital
[2016-12-23 10:58:26] ett1 : man lets be honest. if you were Bitfinex and you can basically take $10m and keep it for yourselves, screw all the strangers that were customers & get away freely would you do it. they did it
[2016-12-23 10:58:32] immackay : I mean I'm not a professional scam artist but I imagine it would be fairly easy
[2016-12-23 10:58:40] immackay : yeah, finex did it and will likely do it again
[2016-12-23 10:58:55] immackay : although I think if they did it a second time no one would come back
[2016-12-23 10:59:01] ett1 : and they whole affects USD and all user balances
[2016-12-23 10:59:10] ett1 : and the BFX token and allowing cashout
[2016-12-23 10:59:20] ett1 : was to mix and scramble all the money
[2016-12-23 10:59:34] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-12-23 10:59:34] ett1 : so theyre to way to trace and piece together whos really owed what now
[2016-12-23 10:59:46] rapidtrades : to make it irreversible
[2016-12-23 10:59:47] ett1 : *no way
[2016-12-23 10:59:50] ett1 : yes
[2016-12-23 11:00:05] rapidtrades : I asked for my bitgo wallet
[2016-12-23 11:00:17] rapidtrades : they said they don't have that information anymore
[2016-12-23 11:00:26] rapidtrades : they're hiding smth
[2016-12-23 11:00:29] ett1 : yes the segregated one that belonged to you
[2016-12-23 11:00:35] rapidtrades : exactly
[2016-12-23 11:01:02] rapidtrades : and they gave me a long winded reply how it doesn't matter.....the knew why I wanted it
[2016-12-23 11:01:11] ett1 : i hope FBI or whover catches up with them
[2016-12-23 11:01:31] rapidtrades : still waiting for that CFTC fine
[2016-12-23 11:01:36] ett1 : if not im looking that business structure, its bulletproof for scammers
[2016-12-23 11:01:42] rapidtrades : they've been fined for much less
[2016-12-23 11:01:43] immackay : gentle reminder to myself to not keep my money on exchanges
[2016-12-23 11:02:12] immackay : also, unrelated, who wants to bring together capital to start an exchange
[2016-12-23 11:03:15] ett1 : FBI will steal the coins they stole while fucking them with a batton
[2016-12-23 11:03:51] ett1 : immackay: how much capital do you think you need
[2016-12-23 11:04:47] immackay : ett1: sadly by the time I have enough capital to start something like that, bitcoin will be mainstream and opportunities will be limited
[2016-12-23 11:04:55] immackay : I'm a poor student
[2016-12-23 11:05:14] ett1 : do you code
[2016-12-23 11:06:07] immackay : a little, not as much anymore, the past year I've been hella autistic on learning pharmacology
[2016-12-23 11:06:29] ett1 : do you know javascript/node
[2016-12-23 11:07:33] immackay : haven't worked with javascript for anything but I can use it, I used to use java/C#/C++
[2016-12-23 11:07:52] immackay : never did much web based development
[2016-12-23 11:08:07] immackay : at the time it didn't interest me
[2016-12-23 11:08:24] ett1 : ok i had a mintpal clone that could be modified. pretty much 99% working
[2016-12-23 11:08:34] ett1 : just do an ICO on the vaporware
[2016-12-23 11:08:38] anonymous789 : trollbox crypto exchange
[2016-12-23 11:08:40] ett1 : get a few million in deposits
[2016-12-23 11:08:49] ett1 : and poof. its all gone
[2016-12-23 11:09:12] ett1 : charlie shrem would surely join the board
[2016-12-23 11:09:17] immackay : oh f*ck, haven't heard that name for a while
[2016-12-23 11:09:57] ett1 : loads of sleezeballs in bitcoin enough to build a dreamteam by offering them 0.1% of ICO raised
[2016-12-23 11:10:18] immackay : too true
[2016-12-23 11:10:22] immackay : hmm
[2016-12-23 11:11:20] ett1 : just be like the number 1 monero exchange
[2016-12-23 11:11:56] ett1 : or ride whatever new shit comes out and need an exchange for it
[2016-12-23 11:12:27] anonymous789 : dapp exchange for all the ethereum dapp tokens
[2016-12-23 11:12:33] anonymous789 : boom moneymaker
[2016-12-23 11:12:42] anonymous789 : i expect 20% rights to all profits
[2016-12-23 11:12:55] ett1 : we should start a syndicate while its hot
[2016-12-23 11:13:03] immackay : this isn't a bad idea
[2016-12-23 11:13:26] anonymous789 : just remember my 20%
[2016-12-23 11:13:37] ett1 : could easy make a few million . just need some websites set up, marketing & PR, an engineer or 2
[2016-12-23 11:13:51] startChat : hitting that lag
[2016-12-23 11:14:11] ett1 : we dont even need a company. thats will be in the roadmap. 40% of the money raised goes the the foundation lol
[2016-12-23 11:14:30] anonymous789 : this triangle is getting mighty tight on the cny hourly
[2016-12-23 11:14:32] ett1 : were looking at swizerland, the UK and hong kong. srly
[2016-12-23 11:14:37] immackay : if you're serious I'm game to chat more
[2016-12-23 11:14:48] ett1 : decide once weve got the pro lawyers on board
[2016-12-23 11:15:02] elmorte : get'em in here, pronto
[2016-12-23 11:15:03] anonymous789 : whatever you guys decide don't forget my 20%
[2016-12-23 11:15:06] elmorte : I mean rapidly
[2016-12-23 11:15:10] ett1 : weve got the chairman of the bahamas stock exchange as an advisor!
[2016-12-23 11:15:21] l3f : ett1: you realise how hard this game is right?
[2016-12-23 11:15:32] l3f : what's stopping the current Xshitcoin exchange from just adding the coin
[2016-12-23 11:15:39] l3f : it's the same with pools
[2016-12-23 11:15:41] l3f : doublers
[2016-12-23 11:15:45] ett1 : if the bitfinex guys could do it...
[2016-12-23 11:16:06] l3f : you'd think bfx is easy but it aint
[2016-12-23 11:16:21] ett1 : you might know that $1 in banner advertising leads to $10 in deposits
[2016-12-23 11:16:36] l3f : lol who the fuck clicks ads
[2016-12-23 11:16:38] l3f : that's doge as fuck
[2016-12-23 11:16:41] l3f : dodge*
[2016-12-23 11:17:06] ett1 : its a numbers game.
[2016-12-23 11:17:06] l3f : bfx got this big because they had margin trading/ liquidity providing that wasn't shit
[2016-12-23 11:17:26] ett1 : ye, offer margin trading and your away
[2016-12-23 11:17:32] ett1 : only like 5 exchanges to compete with
[2016-12-23 11:17:42] ett1 : just some shitty beta will do
[2016-12-23 11:17:45] immackay : l3f: see https://www.tuxexchange.com/ for more info
[2016-12-23 11:17:53] ett1 : if youve got 200x leverage
[2016-12-23 11:18:30] ett1 : the next generation dark pool exchange. its a game changer, HFT and whales welcome
[2016-12-23 11:18:47] startChat : stop talking. build it
[2016-12-23 11:19:00] anonymous789 : yes do it
[2016-12-23 11:19:02] startChat : AND make sure it is liquid
[2016-12-23 11:19:07] anonymous789 : and don't forget my 20%
[2016-12-23 11:19:27] ett1 : if anyones srs im srs
[2016-12-23 11:19:38] immackay : me too
[2016-12-23 11:19:41] anonymous789 : just exchange numbers call each other right now
[2016-12-23 11:19:52] l3f : ett1: you'll probably make more with an exit scam
[2016-12-23 11:19:52] anonymous789 : do it on the trollbox so everyone can see your numbers
[2016-12-23 11:20:09] anonymous789 : and whatever you do do not forget my 20%
[2016-12-23 11:20:23] immackay : 646-217-2783
[2016-12-23 11:20:27] rapidtrades : my numbers is 555-dump-btc
[2016-12-23 11:20:40] anonymous789 : rapidtrades stop trolling
[2016-12-23 11:20:44] anonymous789 : they're doing business here
[2016-12-23 11:21:04] l3f : ett1: honestly you're better off with an ICO for a scamcoin
[2016-12-23 11:21:14] ett1 : immackay: do u have an email u can share
[2016-12-23 11:21:18] ett1 : ill contact u
[2016-12-23 11:21:30] immackay : i'll make a burner just a sec
[2016-12-23 11:21:36] ett1 : is that really u martin
[2016-12-23 11:21:41] ett1 : lol
[2016-12-23 11:21:54] anonymous789 : guys i'd like my 20% in ether please thanks
[2016-12-23 11:22:53] ett1 : i swear i could set up an exhchange and grow it fater than the winklevoss idiots
[2016-12-23 11:23:10] anonymous789 : like i said
[2016-12-23 11:23:15] anonymous789 : don't forget my 20%
[2016-12-23 11:23:37] ett1 : your advise was very valuable
[2016-12-23 11:23:47] ett1 : definitely going to impact the bottom line
[2016-12-23 11:23:56] anonymous789 : yes you know the dapp exchange will be revolutionary
[2016-12-23 11:24:15] anonymous789 : meanwhile okcoin about to break this triangle
[2016-12-23 11:25:06] anonymous789 : damn near perfect bull flag too
[2016-12-23 11:25:37] immackay : you can email 5ht2@sigaint.org
[2016-12-23 11:26:27] startChat : anonymous789: so your short?
[2016-12-23 11:26:44] anonymous789 : startChat: what makes you say that?
[2016-12-23 11:26:45] ett1 : will do. later when im not busy
[2016-12-23 11:28:52] anonymous789 : immackay: ett1 was jus busting your balls
[2016-12-23 11:29:28] ett1 : nah im open to discussion
[2016-12-23 11:29:56] anonymous789 : then this could be the start of a beautiful business relationship
[2016-12-23 11:30:04] anonymous789 : a trollbox friendship
[2016-12-23 11:31:28] immackay : anonymous789: I assume it won't go anywhere but why not chat about it
[2016-12-23 11:31:55] anonymous789 : :D
[2016-12-23 11:32:11] anonymous789 : just don't forget my 20%
[2016-12-23 11:32:32] immackay : anonymous789: will do
[2016-12-23 11:32:48] anonymous789 : :D
[2016-12-23 11:32:55] ett1 : im stuck to the charts right now, when ive got free time ill write to you
[2016-12-23 11:33:28] ett1 : today probs
[2016-12-23 11:34:54] immackay : same, I should sleep though why do I do this
[2016-12-23 11:35:08] immackay : oh yeah, the sweet sweet gains I keep missing out on whenever I sleep
[2016-12-23 11:36:36] m3s : this bull flag is looking majestic af
[2016-12-23 11:38:28] anonymous789 : people may wanna start closing those shorts
[2016-12-23 11:42:52] startChat : do settlement pumps go up or down
[2016-12-23 11:44:11] PatioCrasher : pumps go up
[2016-12-23 11:44:33] PatioCrasher : but you pay the fee
[2016-12-23 11:44:39] PatioCrasher : so kinda equals out
[2016-12-23 11:44:48] PatioCrasher : *funding rate
[2016-12-23 11:45:22] Rado : funding rate is noting compared to the up move
[2016-12-23 11:45:34] PatioCrasher : yeah sometimes
[2016-12-23 11:45:44] PatioCrasher : we all know the market is irrational
[2016-12-23 11:46:00] ett1 : whats more efficient if you think btc is going to 1000
[2016-12-23 11:46:14] PatioCrasher : well yea you obviously gotta be in it to win it
[2016-12-23 11:46:17] ett1 : swaps, futures or it averages out the same
[2016-12-23 11:46:27] ett1 : ?
[2016-12-23 11:46:34] PatioCrasher : im not sure.
[2016-12-23 11:46:50] PatioCrasher : whichever market is bhaving the less rationally at the time
[2016-12-23 11:46:52] PatioCrasher : I guess
[2016-12-23 11:47:06] ett1 : im on swaps but wanted to know if im being screwed on the funding rate vs premiums
[2016-12-23 11:47:07] PatioCrasher : zec showed us that
[2016-12-23 11:47:32] PatioCrasher : why not do a test on the bitmex testnet with both
[2016-12-23 11:47:36] PatioCrasher : and see how it works out for you
[2016-12-23 11:47:50] ett1 : ok good idea
[2016-12-23 11:47:59] PatioCrasher : over one funding period or whatevr
[2016-12-23 11:48:02] aethlios : bitmex be the 1st to bring up a decent options market (underlying the futures contracts) btc market cap goes up, so demand for more products will rise.
[2016-12-23 11:48:31] startChat : hopefully that is the plan when all the shitcoins disappear
[2016-12-23 11:48:54] PatioCrasher : bitmex test net rocks by the way (to anyoone wanting to practice some trades in a stress free environment)
[2016-12-23 11:49:11] ett1 : the trades use the real market prices?
[2016-12-23 11:49:20] startChat : and funding rate?
[2016-12-23 11:49:43] aethlios : better play the real thing with 1 contract
[2016-12-23 11:50:21] PatioCrasher : aaah true the funding rate is different on the testnet. thats a bummer
[2016-12-23 11:50:29] PatioCrasher : gues you will have to play 1 contract styles rather
[2016-12-23 11:50:46] ett1 : does anyone know the theory behind it. if im holding, should the premium & funding rate be equivalent or is there a concept i should be aware of (when ones better than the other)
[2016-12-23 11:52:32] aethlios : funding short term, so unknown. premium long term and known. what do you want?
[2016-12-23 11:53:55] aethlios : funding is like one night stand, quarterly premium is like long term relationship.
[2016-12-23 11:54:16] aethlios : in what do you want to involve?
[2016-12-23 11:54:46] aethlios : so you choose the adequate relationship with the market.
[2016-12-23 11:58:30] rustiv : btc swings getting tighter
[2016-12-23 11:58:34] rustiv : next leg-up incoming
[2016-12-23 11:58:56] anonymous789 : next hour looks like breakout
[2016-12-23 12:00:36] l3f : bois
[2016-12-23 12:01:19] aethlios : 1,000 looks very close now.
[2016-12-23 12:01:25] ett1 : aethlios: what determines the premium. demand for longs/shorts?
[2016-12-23 12:01:35] ett1 : its usually higher when the markekt is rising, right?
[2016-12-23 12:01:56] elmorte : ett1: sentiment
[2016-12-23 12:02:16] elmorte : after all, this is not spot
[2016-12-23 12:02:38] QuantFocus : so in 1 week, 1 WIN = 1 ETC at settlement. seems like easy arb
[2016-12-23 12:02:53] justinlooking : muhaha
[2016-12-23 12:03:24] Rado : QuantFocus: how to you play the arb?
[2016-12-23 12:03:35] QuantFocus : short win / long etc
[2016-12-23 12:03:36] rapidtrades : short win?
[2016-12-23 12:03:39] aethlios : ett1: quarterly 30 march is the expected price of spot then, so premium is the expectations of the traders. bullish expections create large premium and also high volatility, the higher the volatility the wider the possible outcomes in the future.
[2016-12-23 12:03:41] Rado : sell WIN, buy ETC
[2016-12-23 12:03:55] elmorte : yeah Rado
[2016-12-23 12:04:08] Rado : I was looking at that
[2016-12-23 12:04:11] rapidtrades : why is it 'safe' arb tho
[2016-12-23 12:04:14] Rado : no exchanges are listing WIN?
[2016-12-23 12:04:35] QuantFocus : bitmex made an announcement about settlement price
[2016-12-23 12:04:36] Rado : rapidtrades: it's not safe
[2016-12-23 12:04:49] rapidtrades : what's not safe about it
[2016-12-23 12:04:49] Rado : if an exchange lists WIN and it open at 0.005
[2016-12-23 12:05:00] elmorte : then you're screwed
[2016-12-23 12:05:03] QuantFocus : just depends on exchange listing
[2016-12-23 12:05:04] Rado : and BitMEX decides to price it on that
[2016-12-23 12:05:53] elmorte : I haven't seen any news on exchange listing annoucements
[2016-12-23 12:06:17] QuantFocus : i didn't say safe. i said easy
[2016-12-23 12:06:23] l3f : what if bitmex can't cover lol
[2016-12-23 12:06:25] QuantFocus : but sure, doesn't come without risk
[2016-12-23 12:06:54] QuantFocus : i guess not true arb then. you got me
[2016-12-23 12:07:01] elmorte : l3f: bitmex is not the counterparty
[2016-12-23 12:07:19] l3f : well what if the exchange can't cover
[2016-12-23 12:07:28] elmorte : what exchange?
[2016-12-23 12:07:55] elmorte : it's a contract between bitmex users
[2016-12-23 12:10:17] l3f : elmorte: ok nvm I'm retarded
[2016-12-23 12:11:09] elmorte : market cap of ETCWin is....1.2m?
[2016-12-23 12:11:32] rapidtrades : wow ZEC up to 6.2
[2016-12-23 12:11:39] rapidtrades : sneaky fella
[2016-12-23 12:12:05] Rado : rapidtrades: March went up a lot
[2016-12-23 12:12:24] rapidtrades : yeah some dum dums were shorting at 20% discount again
[2016-12-23 12:12:36] elmorte : I'm not selling till it goes back to 880
[2016-12-23 12:12:42] rustiv : china going for 1000
[2016-12-23 12:12:44] rustiv : fuck me
[2016-12-23 12:12:46] Rado : it was 40% in the begining
[2016-12-23 12:12:58] rustiv : GENTLY FCKING CARESS ME
[2016-12-23 12:13:40] Slashterix : hodl me chayna
[2016-12-23 12:13:42] m3s : bitcorn going for it
[2016-12-23 12:13:50] justinlooking : MUHAHAHA
[2016-12-23 12:14:03] anonymous789 : fakeout or breakout?
[2016-12-23 12:14:07] ett1 : china about to break up
[2016-12-23 12:14:12] ett1 : brekout
[2016-12-23 12:14:26] anonymous789 : could be a fakeout, wait until next hour i think for confirmation
[2016-12-23 12:14:27] ett1 : but stamp will decide
[2016-12-23 12:15:14] anonymous789 : was a pretty solid textbook bull flag on cny but still could be a fakeout and continuation of sidways movement
[2016-12-23 12:15:15] shery : I think new high is incoming china seems to be serious
[2016-12-23 12:15:31] ett1 : 6466 is okc high
[2016-12-23 12:15:42] rapidtrades : profit factor 7.4 sharpe 0.01? wtf is with this result
[2016-12-23 12:15:44] anonymous789 : volume is not great
[2016-12-23 12:15:48] m3s : okcasino market maker
[2016-12-23 12:15:56] ett1 : rapidtrades: whats that, your system
[2016-12-23 12:15:59] l3f : bitmex casino
[2016-12-23 12:16:16] l3f : and resort
[2016-12-23 12:16:23] rapidtrades : ett1: im playing with a backtester...don't think it shows sharpe right
[2016-12-23 12:16:25] m3s : what does m stand for in bitmex ?
[2016-12-23 12:16:34] l3f : mexico :)
[2016-12-23 12:16:34] rapidtrades : MEHICO
[2016-12-23 12:16:41] m3s : really?
[2016-12-23 12:16:46] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-12-23 12:16:46] Slashterix : LOL
[2016-12-23 12:16:47] m3s : didnt know lol
[2016-12-23 12:16:50] m3s : respect
[2016-12-23 12:16:52] QuantFocus : they're based in tijuana
[2016-12-23 12:17:01] Slashterix : lmao
[2016-12-23 12:17:06] aethlios : 220>500 rally was 250%, we are only 18.5% in this rally.
[2016-12-23 12:17:06] l3f : build the wall
[2016-12-23 12:17:37] ett1 : rapidtrades: can you see the equity curve. is it a straigh line? did you look forward into future bars so youve got a perfect system thats imporsible in reality?
[2016-12-23 12:18:56] anonymous789 : looked like a fakout
[2016-12-23 12:18:59] anonymous789 : fakeout*
[2016-12-23 12:19:11] ett1 : higher lows still
[2016-12-23 12:19:15] l3f : anonymous789: one of these fakeout will end in a dump
[2016-12-23 12:19:18] l3f : and there will be tears
[2016-12-23 12:19:30] elmorte : aethlios: should we count the dollar terms too? Money has to come from somwhere...
[2016-12-23 12:19:31] anonymous789 : l3f: not anytime soon
[2016-12-23 12:19:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 7800 @ 910.80
[2016-12-23 12:19:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 125 @ 910.81
[2016-12-23 12:19:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 660 @ 910.80
[2016-12-23 12:20:10] l3f : anonymous789: landed on an empty chamber this time :)
[2016-12-23 12:20:16] l3f : *click*
[2016-12-23 12:20:49] immackay : looks like a fakeout
[2016-12-23 12:20:52] immackay : smells like a fakeout
[2016-12-23 12:21:00] immackay : must be a breakout
[2016-12-23 12:21:03] ett1 : tastes like afakeout
[2016-12-23 12:22:13] l3f : seatbelts on
[2016-12-23 12:22:48] m3s : hold me choyna
[2016-12-23 12:22:55] ett1 : fingers on the button!
[2016-12-23 12:23:11] anonymous789 : well that was annoying, would have been a great place to breakout
[2016-12-23 12:23:30] justinlooking : lol fakeout do u even trend bro
[2016-12-23 12:23:37] l3f : they really painted the tape
[2016-12-23 12:23:48] l3f : these candle stick artists
[2016-12-23 12:23:51] l3f : drew a double bottom
[2016-12-23 12:24:00] l3f : on the hour chart
[2016-12-23 12:24:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1 @ 911.78 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-23 12:24:10] ett1 : chinese fakes
[2016-12-23 12:25:03] aethlios : china pissed, seeing west buying all btc, they try with okcoin future to keep the market down, premium 3month below pre-pump level.
[2016-12-23 12:26:31] elmorte : Okc still have that premium cap?
[2016-12-23 12:28:03] m3s : so klose
[2016-12-23 12:28:07] rapidtrades : cap was $85, we're nowhere near it
[2016-12-23 12:28:24] aethlios : elmorte: asked support and didn't tell me there is a cap, also can't find in documentation. is this just a rumor??
[2016-12-23 12:28:24] justinlooking : good memory
[2016-12-23 12:28:40] aethlios : rapidtrades: who told you there is a cap??
[2016-12-23 12:29:19] aethlios : is it 85 fixed or a % of price??
[2016-12-23 12:30:09] justinlooking : aethlios: afaik it was arbitrary 85usd... "to protect against cascading short liquidations"
[2016-12-23 12:31:19] anonymous789 : okay now bitstamp is near breakout pint
[2016-12-23 12:31:23] anonymous789 : point*
[2016-12-23 12:31:27] anonymous789 : maybe we get a proper brekaout now
[2016-12-23 12:31:35] anonymous789 : breakout*
[2016-12-23 12:31:43] m3s : fingers crossed
[2016-12-23 12:31:47] ett1 : bistamp is the one to watch
[2016-12-23 12:32:05] m3s : ett1: howcome stamp pushing and not choyna ?
[2016-12-23 12:32:20] thomaskikansha : anyone long zcash?
[2016-12-23 12:32:22] anonymous789 : china has like no resistance levels anymore
[2016-12-23 12:32:28] anonymous789 : so they're watching USD i thnk
[2016-12-23 12:32:28] ett1 : dunno
[2016-12-23 12:32:37] anonymous789 : next resistance level on USD is like 950
[2016-12-23 12:32:49] anonymous789 : 960
[2016-12-23 12:33:41] immackay : breakout on stamp?
[2016-12-23 12:33:51] anonymous789 : not yet
[2016-12-23 12:34:06] anonymous789 : wait until next hour on hourly chart
[2016-12-23 12:34:08] immackay : yeah nah
[2016-12-23 12:34:10] anonymous789 : for confirmation
[2016-12-23 12:34:21] ett1 : 913.41 was high it reached 913.40
[2016-12-23 12:34:35] anonymous789 : but it's still within a channel
[2016-12-23 12:34:37] anonymous789 : on the hourly
[2016-12-23 12:34:43] anonymous789 : that's what i'm watching at least
[2016-12-23 12:35:05] ett1 : just a hair away on stamp & okc
[2016-12-23 12:35:28] thomaskikansha : thin ask for stam
[2016-12-23 12:39:23] m3s : ah, china ruins it again
[2016-12-23 12:39:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 16500 @ 911.67
[2016-12-23 12:40:58] immackay : m3s: isn't that always the case
[2016-12-23 12:40:58] anonymous789 : fake it 'til you make it
[2016-12-23 12:41:11] anonymous789 : stamp doesn't care
[2016-12-23 12:43:11] immackay : small dump on bitfenix
[2016-12-23 12:43:18] aethlios : china doesn't control this bull run, and try to keep market down that's why so small premium on okcoin.
[2016-12-23 12:44:19] l3f : rsi at 89
[2016-12-23 12:44:21] l3f : on daily
[2016-12-23 12:44:29] elmorte : aethlios: I only know about the cap through radio rapid, can't remember if anyone else here confirmed it
[2016-12-23 12:46:00] m3s : l3f: what does that mean ?
[2016-12-23 12:46:22] l3f : it means hold on to your butts we're going to see some serious shit
[2016-12-23 12:46:32] m3s : haha
[2016-12-23 12:46:39] m3s : when is it overbought ?
[2016-12-23 12:46:48] l3f : >70
[2016-12-23 12:46:51] l3f : above 70
[2016-12-23 12:47:01] m3s : thanks
[2016-12-23 12:47:03] elmorte : and his wrist hurts from repetitive masturbating
[2016-12-23 12:47:30] herpinator : aye im cashing out now
[2016-12-23 12:47:33] immackay : l3f: dump?
[2016-12-23 12:47:39] herpinator : cashing out my initial investment
[2016-12-23 12:48:05] anonymous789 : now this is an uptrend line
[2016-12-23 12:48:07] anonymous789 : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/mHrlGQ61-TRUE-VALUE-LINE/
[2016-12-23 12:48:43] l3f : anonymous789: top analyst work right there
[2016-12-23 12:48:55] anonymous789 : rapidtrades would throw up if he saw that
[2016-12-23 12:48:58] ett1 : thats silly
[2016-12-23 12:49:17] ett1 : anonymous789: look at the log chart for a good long term trend line
[2016-12-23 12:49:24] immackay : ett1: true that
[2016-12-23 12:49:31] immackay : 5000 by 2019
[2016-12-23 12:49:40] anonymous789 : yea i just thought that chart was hilarious
[2016-12-23 12:50:06] immackay : anonymous789: what if you're right?
[2016-12-23 12:50:14] l3f : Ok from my net-flow analysis
[2016-12-23 12:50:16] immackay : and bitcoin has been undervalued for years
[2016-12-23 12:50:16] ett1 : its too optimistic connectig the highs. but mine is actually exponential
[2016-12-23 12:50:18] l3f : everything is ok
[2016-12-23 12:50:29] ett1 : so it goes higher eventually
[2016-12-23 12:50:29] l3f : china has never bought so much bitcoin
[2016-12-23 12:50:47] l3f : plenty of bag holders to sandbag any dumps
[2016-12-23 12:50:54] l3f : (famous last words)
[2016-12-23 12:50:57] anonymous789 : we need 1% of all gold bugs in btc
[2016-12-23 12:51:03] Rado : rapidtrades: do you think ZEC is going up because of BTC run?
[2016-12-23 12:51:10] l3f : But given how vertical the graph is
[2016-12-23 12:51:23] Rado : opposite compared to the rest of the alts
[2016-12-23 12:51:32] ett1 : anonymous789: ye i can definitely see that happening. why not convert 10%
[2016-12-23 12:51:35] immackay : Rado: I think zec is going up because it's going to crash
[2016-12-23 12:51:52] anonymous789 : ett1: 10% maybe over the next 10-15 years
[2016-12-23 12:52:09] Rado : immackay: your sentence makes no sense
[2016-12-23 12:52:27] immackay : Rado: zec is going to crash; does that make more sense
[2016-12-23 12:52:30] anonymous789 : he means it's a pump and dump haha
[2016-12-23 12:54:14] immackay : if china dumps here I'll be mad but I learned my lesson last time
[2016-12-23 12:54:23] immackay : got a stop set up
[2016-12-23 12:55:41] anonymous789 : we need to keep faking it until we make it
[2016-12-23 12:56:10] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/NBkTEkwN/
[2016-12-23 12:56:13] immackay : anonymous789: that's how I live my life
[2016-12-23 12:56:25] anonymous789 : immackay: great way
[2016-12-23 12:56:54] immackay : aethlios: holy shit
[2016-12-23 12:57:04] aethlios : this chart shows premium 3month okcoin and stamp price rally. premium steady which is a hard manipulation from china
[2016-12-23 12:58:34] aethlios : in % terms spread went down.
[2016-12-23 12:59:37] l3f : here it comes
[2016-12-23 13:00:14] m3s : l3f: christmas 15% fall ? :D
[2016-12-23 13:00:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2 @ 908.80 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-23 13:00:31] l3f : some fireworks
[2016-12-23 13:00:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 4000 @ 908.53
[2016-12-23 13:00:52] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2016-12-23 13:00:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8000 @ 907.69
[2016-12-23 13:01:27] m3s : too much support lol
[2016-12-23 13:01:42] l3f : shakeout just started
[2016-12-23 13:01:54] l3f : ah well
[2016-12-23 13:01:57] l3f : as long as it shakes a few
[2016-12-23 13:02:33] m3s : not sure if 50 cny is enough for a shakeout lol
[2016-12-23 13:02:49] l3f : well I'd assume there'd be more
[2016-12-23 13:02:55] l3f : but maybe not
[2016-12-23 13:02:57] l3f : rock solid support
[2016-12-23 13:03:00] immackay : yeah what's happening lol
[2016-12-23 13:03:14] m3s : crazy
[2016-12-23 13:03:23] brouk : 900 new floor?
[2016-12-23 13:03:29] l3f : yeah
[2016-12-23 13:03:50] l3f : the liquidations start after going below 900
[2016-12-23 13:04:22] m3s : l3f: are people basically gambling if they get rekt at 900 ?
[2016-12-23 13:04:29] m3s : I mean thats not even 1%
[2016-12-23 13:04:42] anonymous789 : it's all gambling
[2016-12-23 13:04:53] l3f : m3s: no it's stop losses
[2016-12-23 13:04:59] l3f : you can shake them out using their own stops
[2016-12-23 13:05:02] m3s : people need sound financial planning
[2016-12-23 13:05:13] m3s : like our lord and saviour VB
[2016-12-23 13:05:18] l3f : we all have real tight stop losses and they want to shake us out
[2016-12-23 13:05:30] anonymous789 : vitalik is great
[2016-12-23 13:05:31] l3f : they need us to buy back in to keep pumping
[2016-12-23 13:05:44] l3f : so they'll shake
[2016-12-23 13:05:47] l3f : and ours stops will hit
[2016-12-23 13:05:48] rustiv : reel man have no stops
[2016-12-23 13:05:51] l3f : and we're out
[2016-12-23 13:06:19] brouk : yeah the whale play
[2016-12-23 13:06:49] anonymous789 : yea i thought we'd make a little run to 900 there
[2016-12-23 13:06:53] anonymous789 : and bounce back from there
[2016-12-23 13:07:24] l3f : whale comes should be back in 6 hours
[2016-12-23 13:08:13] l3f : they haven't even done any hardcore plays yet
[2016-12-23 13:08:16] l3f : pump then hard dump
[2016-12-23 13:08:25] l3f : in the same hour
[2016-12-23 13:08:42] l3f : lots of pain ahead
[2016-12-23 13:11:24] anonymous789 : bitmex site should also show liquidation price under the "cost" in the side of the site rather than having to press buy or sell to see it
[2016-12-23 13:13:46] anonymous789 : damn eth about to go 7 dollars again
[2016-12-23 13:16:31] m3s : ETH short is like free money
[2016-12-23 13:17:27] anonymous789 : but VB is lord and savior?
[2016-12-23 13:18:28] l3f : here we go
[2016-12-23 13:18:33] l3f : 905 git
[2016-12-23 13:18:35] l3f : hit*
[2016-12-23 13:19:01] wurstgelee : any admin here?
[2016-12-23 13:19:01] l3f : let's see how hard it can push
[2016-12-23 13:19:27] anonymous789 : shake it 'til you make it
[2016-12-23 13:19:34] wurstgelee : withdrawals? processing right now i guess? ;)
[2016-12-23 13:20:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 587 @ 906.71
[2016-12-23 13:21:10] anonymous789 : see if 6400 holds
[2016-12-23 13:21:21] BitMEX_Jinming : wurstgelee: yeah processing now
[2016-12-23 13:21:38] l3f : BitMEX_Jinming: where do chinese traders talk about bitcoin?
[2016-12-23 13:21:52] l3f : not on mex I mean forums/irc/web chat
[2016-12-23 13:21:53] l3f : anything
[2016-12-23 13:21:56] anonymous789 : they are a collective like the BORG
[2016-12-23 13:22:04] ett1 : wechat
[2016-12-23 13:22:18] justinlooking : icq
[2016-12-23 13:22:21] immackay : I always thought china was just one collective entity
[2016-12-23 13:22:25] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Jinming: thanks
[2016-12-23 13:22:33] m3s : 6400 not holding. doom
[2016-12-23 13:22:38] BitMEX_Jinming : l3f: normally they talk in qq group or we chat group. some large traders have their own private wechat groups
[2016-12-23 13:22:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 10 @ 0.004370
[2016-12-23 13:23:03] anonymous789 : m3s: really?
[2016-12-23 13:23:25] aaaaa : moon
[2016-12-23 13:23:25] l3f : BitMEX_Jinming: any good ones?
[2016-12-23 13:23:41] anonymous789 : 900 is a key psychological barrier, longs will come in now i think
[2016-12-23 13:23:47] halloz : btfd
[2016-12-23 13:23:54] rapidtrades : 900 CAN'T FALL BUY THE F*cKING DIP
[2016-12-23 13:23:58] l3f : it'll need to hit 895
[2016-12-23 13:24:01] l3f : then panic starts
[2016-12-23 13:24:04] BitMEX_Jinming : l3f: you are welcome to join BitMEX wechat group if you have wechat and understand chinese
[2016-12-23 13:24:11] l3f : fine I'll do it
[2016-12-23 13:24:20] l3f : BitMEX_Jinming: you know my account email
[2016-12-23 13:24:29] l3f : send me an email and I'll reply
[2016-12-23 13:25:01] shery : I think we will see 880
[2016-12-23 13:25:03] BitMEX_Jinming : l3f: ok
[2016-12-23 13:25:37] l3f : waiting for 950 to hit
[2016-12-23 13:25:42] l3f : doesn't look like that's happening
[2016-12-23 13:26:06] l3f : go whale
[2016-12-23 13:26:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8000 @ 902.28
[2016-12-23 13:26:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 17400 @ 902.25
[2016-12-23 13:26:07] l3f : dump
[2016-12-23 13:26:11] ett1 : i think well find support. just testing 900s
[2016-12-23 13:26:15] l3f : whale pls
[2016-12-23 13:26:19] l3f : plz
[2016-12-23 13:26:24] rapidtrades : GOD HELP US
[2016-12-23 13:26:26] l3f : *splash* splash
[2016-12-23 13:26:35] ett1 : SANTA TO THE RESCUE
[2016-12-23 13:26:52] wurstgelee : spoiler: there is no dump (yet)
[2016-12-23 13:27:12] ett1 : 900 support too strong
[2016-12-23 13:27:25] wurstgelee : why y'll can't wait to short ffs?
[2016-12-23 13:27:28] wurstgelee : *a
[2016-12-23 13:28:04] anonymous789 : i think it's a bit stupid to short right now
[2016-12-23 13:28:06] anonymous789 : no real reason too
[2016-12-23 13:28:17] l3f : anonymous789: maybe scalp
[2016-12-23 13:28:22] l3f : 10 dollar scalp
[2016-12-23 13:28:24] anonymous789 : okay scalp
[2016-12-23 13:28:25] l3f : nothing to scoff at
[2016-12-23 13:28:35] l3f : MMs making bank now
[2016-12-23 13:28:45] anonymous789 : 100x leverage 10 dollar scalp worth it but you need be nostradamas to get that right
[2016-12-23 13:28:45] l3f : all this splashing
[2016-12-23 13:29:23] anonymous789 : positive sentiment about bitcoin is just beginning to spread
[2016-12-23 13:29:25] m3s : Magicarp used splash
[2016-12-23 13:29:27] anonymous789 : in the media etc
[2016-12-23 13:29:57] wurstgelee : it will be time to sell if btc is #1 trend on twitter
[2016-12-23 13:30:00] wurstgelee : or facebook
[2016-12-23 13:30:13] anonymous789 : and big volume
[2016-12-23 13:30:15] m3s : wurstgelee: or when our grandmothers buy it
[2016-12-23 13:30:21] wurstgelee : m3s: oO
[2016-12-23 13:30:32] anonymous789 : grandmothers buying could be bullish haha
[2016-12-23 13:30:45] m3s : or when warren buffet buys it lol
[2016-12-23 13:30:53] ett1 : when bitcoin businesses are being advertised on TV
[2016-12-23 13:31:04] ett1 : maybe they are in the USA already
[2016-12-23 13:32:56] l3f : BitMEX_Jinming: still waiting for that email :)
[2016-12-23 13:33:54] ett1 : when barry silbert sponsors the superbowl
[2016-12-23 13:35:10] BitMEX_Jinming : l3f: You should get it now
[2016-12-23 13:36:11] l3f : friended
[2016-12-23 13:36:28] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Jinming: transaction hit the chain, all fine
[2016-12-23 13:36:29] wurstgelee : thanks :)
[2016-12-23 13:36:44] BitMEX_Jinming : wurstgelee: Cool