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[2016-12-23 04:28:34] ett1 : rapid
[2016-12-23 04:28:37] MrRGnome : We're mocking a guy names rapidtrades
[2016-12-23 04:29:16] ett1 : not mocking, paying tribute
[2016-12-23 04:29:18] Rado : he has a good hearth
[2016-12-23 04:29:18] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-23 04:29:48] ett1 : & instincts
[2016-12-23 04:30:02] shery : l3f: are you saying to short????
[2016-12-23 04:30:17] l3f : shery: of course
[2016-12-23 04:30:22] ett1 : allways short at the tops
[2016-12-23 04:30:23] ett1 : no brainer
[2016-12-23 04:30:37] l3f : that was sarcasm if you didn;t catch it
[2016-12-23 04:30:57] ett1 : look at the chart. cant you see it's topping
[2016-12-23 04:31:04] narnarfromnarnia : time to short back to 900 me thinking
[2016-12-23 04:31:22] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: it could have been worse
[2016-12-23 04:31:29] l3f : you could have shorted from 860
[2016-12-23 04:31:34] shery : l3f: lmfao, can i ask have yu opened a short and how much??
[2016-12-23 04:31:42] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: lol got rekt and woke up to a great price
[2016-12-23 04:31:44] narnarfromnarnia : so sucky
[2016-12-23 04:31:50] narnarfromnarnia : profit when i woke up
[2016-12-23 04:31:54] narnarfromnarnia : but sodl
[2016-12-23 04:31:57] l3f : shery: of course I am long
[2016-12-23 04:32:14] ett1 : im at 530% ROE haha
[2016-12-23 04:32:16] shery : narnarfromnarnia: last night you ended at 868 , but i did holded and filled at 855
[2016-12-23 04:32:44] ett1 : but it rises as my equity depletes from the funding rate. so kind of an overestimat
[2016-12-23 04:32:48] narnarfromnarnia : shery: nice i should have been more patient
[2016-12-23 04:32:56] narnarfromnarnia : i think we'll see a solid drop here short term
[2016-12-23 04:33:13] shery : narnarfromnarnia: No drop , just up till 950
[2016-12-23 04:33:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 40000 @ 906.85
[2016-12-23 04:34:02] ett1 : lol
[2016-12-23 04:34:12] shery : narnarfromnarnia: yeah it will be side ways for small time but it will keep rocketig every hour
[2016-12-23 04:34:23] ett1 : BTFD!
[2016-12-23 04:34:32] l3f : panic sell?
[2016-12-23 04:34:33] shiroe : profit takers before christmas!
[2016-12-23 04:34:35] l3f : lol
[2016-12-23 04:34:52] Apocalyptic : @l3f: you could have shorted below 750 like viptrader and get rekt
[2016-12-23 04:35:01] l3f : Apocalyptic: yeah but I'm not retarded
[2016-12-23 04:35:11] shiroe : damn. 15% btc increase at x50 leverage is x5 capital. huahuahua
[2016-12-23 04:35:18] l3f : apologies to viptrader
[2016-12-23 04:35:19] ett1 : just keep adding margin, it will eventually reverse @Apocalyptic
[2016-12-23 04:35:21] l3f : I still like the guy
[2016-12-23 04:35:44] Apocalyptic : ett1: sounds like a solid plan
[2016-12-23 04:36:55] l3f : fugg
[2016-12-23 04:37:02] l3f : incoming dump
[2016-12-23 04:37:22] ett1 : just profit takers. chill
[2016-12-23 04:37:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: sell 9200 @ 908.47
[2016-12-23 04:37:34] ett1 : still higher highs `& higher lows
[2016-12-23 04:37:36] elmorte : Is there a rebalance for March futures?
[2016-12-23 04:38:03] micmix : elmorte: no
[2016-12-23 04:38:13] micmix : no more rebalances
[2016-12-23 04:38:24] dodic : light volume
[2016-12-23 04:38:33] micmix : you have to realize profit yourself
[2016-12-23 04:38:37] elmorte : Thanks micmix
[2016-12-23 04:38:40] ett1 : do chinese celebrate chirstmas
[2016-12-23 04:39:07] micmix : yes, Chinese Christians do
[2016-12-23 04:39:25] ett1 : is it a big holiday in china
[2016-12-23 04:39:36] ett1 : with lights and shopping sprees
[2016-12-23 04:40:00] elmorte : Why does my margin keep increasing the for the contract that is long/green, but stays the same for the short/red?
[2016-12-23 04:40:53] elmorte : I'm sure there's a formula somewhere in the catacombs of BitMEX docs...
[2016-12-23 04:42:00] j8 : your profit stays on the position, although it still is useable as margin... i think that's how it works anyway
[2016-12-23 04:43:41] ett1 : elmorte: as you position gains profit, that profits can be used as margin to increase your size if you want
[2016-12-23 04:43:59] ett1 : losing positions will just blow up when margin called
[2016-12-23 04:44:09] ett1 : if thats what you mean
[2016-12-23 04:44:26] j8 : you should be able to remove profit without closing, but i don't think you can
[2016-12-23 04:45:54] ett1 : isnt that what reduce margin does
[2016-12-23 04:47:10] j8 : try it
[2016-12-23 04:47:28] micmix : paging all dip buyers! chip coins!
[2016-12-23 04:47:34] micmix : *cheap
[2016-12-23 04:47:41] micmix : stupid autocorrect
[2016-12-23 04:48:44] micmix : or maybe it's smart and it meant casino chips
[2016-12-23 04:48:51] j8 : i have a cross position with 15% margin.. i'm not able to remove it without closing and reopening, then i'd get back to 1% or whatever
[2016-12-23 04:48:57] CaptainDean : micmix: hahaha :D
[2016-12-23 04:49:44] ett1 : sorry can somebody explain cross
[2016-12-23 04:49:45] ett1 : ive never used it
[2016-12-23 04:50:12] laisee : ett1: cross == ALL your funds supporting open contracts
[2016-12-23 04:50:21] l3f : sleger must be laughing his ass off
[2016-12-23 04:50:27] l3f : he's got three more yachts now
[2016-12-23 04:50:37] narnarfromnarnia : will we get 900 again
[2016-12-23 04:50:38] l3f : AND HE ISN'T EVEN FINISHED
[2016-12-23 04:50:47] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: nah, it's going to zero
[2016-12-23 04:50:49] ett1 : laisee: like it auto adjusts the slider
[2016-12-23 04:50:52] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-23 04:51:05] narnarfromnarnia : bfx looks dumpy
[2016-12-23 04:51:07] micmix : ett1: it's automatically adds margin when it gets low
[2016-12-23 04:51:30] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: then buy it up
[2016-12-23 04:51:33] laisee : ett1: key pint is that ALL your funds in account are exposed
[2016-12-23 04:51:40] ett1 : ok. is that what most people like to use?
[2016-12-23 04:51:44] narnarfromnarnia : yeah just waiting for 15m dip
[2016-12-23 04:52:00] micmix : yep, on cross all your funds belong to us ;-)
[2016-12-23 04:52:24] ett1 : laisee: ok got it. so it can be the same as 25x for example, it will just allow the max liq level on its own
[2016-12-23 04:52:29] laisee : ett1: new traders seem to use it, its a good (but hard) way to learn how margin/futures trading works
[2016-12-23 04:52:57] ayy_lmao : jebus be shillin'
[2016-12-23 04:53:05] ayy_lmao : incoming n00bs
[2016-12-23 04:53:23] ett1 : ok. i almost never trade with leverage anyway. but gone nuts with this breakout lol
[2016-12-23 04:53:50] ett1 : i think im better controlling the slider on my own. keeps me consious of whats happening and what my risk is i suppose
[2016-12-23 04:53:52] j8 : cross is great if you have some long and some short positions, because they'll cover eachother's losses (hopefully)
[2016-12-23 04:54:12] ett1 : j8: ah makes sense now
[2016-12-23 04:55:19] KingTuna : It may make sense for 1 more leg up and massive dump Whales expecting people will want to hold fro $1000
[2016-12-23 04:55:22] KingTuna : tricky tricky lol
[2016-12-23 04:55:26] micmix : make sure to use stops with cross or you can wake up to empty balance @ett1
[2016-12-23 04:55:34] KingTuna : psychological barriers can often be the end of traders
[2016-12-23 04:56:11] ett1 : micmix: cool got it. on some levels i use my account balance as my stop anyway
[2016-12-23 04:56:41] ett1 : like ill move 5% to Bitmex and thats all up for risk. like its a trade with a 5% SL
[2016-12-23 04:56:41] micmix : works too if you deposit small amounts
[2016-12-23 04:57:49] micmix : minimizes counterparty risk as well in case exchange goes under
[2016-12-23 04:58:25] ett1 : yes. when i want to go into cash, putting 10% on here with -10x short makes a lot of sense to me
[2016-12-23 04:58:41] ett1 : rather than selling everything and holding USD on okcoin or elsewhere
[2016-12-23 04:58:45] ett1 : and its anon
[2016-12-23 04:59:55] j8 : 3 hours until okc settlement
[2016-12-23 05:00:23] micmix : expecting shenanigans?
[2016-12-23 05:00:28] j8 : always
[2016-12-23 05:00:31] Apocalyptic : funding rate looking good on swap
[2016-12-23 05:00:45] j8 : doesn't always happen but i'm always bracing for it
[2016-12-23 05:00:55] Apocalyptic : people are still massively long
[2016-12-23 05:01:08] ett1 : Apocalyptic: bullish?
[2016-12-23 05:01:14] micmix : yeah, I remember DDOS and 8-10% drop
[2016-12-23 05:01:33] Apocalyptic : ett1: let's just say that I wouldn't open a long right noy
[2016-12-23 05:01:36] Apocalyptic : *now
[2016-12-23 05:01:41] ett1 : j8: affecting all markets or just okcoin
[2016-12-23 05:01:55] j8 : everyone but mostly china
[2016-12-23 05:02:16] narnarfromnarnia : drop
[2016-12-23 05:04:06] Apocalyptic : narnarfromnarnia: drop it like it's hot
[2016-12-23 05:04:26] narnarfromnarnia : anyone else see a drop coming for real?
[2016-12-23 05:04:28] lockhedge : usually some big market makers reduce sizes when okc futures settle, which makes the market more fragile everywhere
[2016-12-23 05:04:35] shery : I guess many here have started shorting but you may not sleep well tonight if you are shorting btc right now,
[2016-12-23 05:05:34] Apocalyptic : shery: swap says otherwise
[2016-12-23 05:06:00] Apocalyptic : the rate is going up so the long/short ratio increased
[2016-12-23 05:06:13] dodic : lol who would sleep short through the night while chinese markets are still open? Crazy people?
[2016-12-23 05:06:54] shery : dodic: one may not be able woke up continously 24 hours. I tried last night but failed
[2016-12-23 05:07:05] dodic : just need more coffee
[2016-12-23 05:07:24] ett1 : get some amphetimines
[2016-12-23 05:07:25] ett1 : even better
[2016-12-23 05:07:37] ett1 : your trade like a boss
[2016-12-23 05:07:42] Apocalyptic : shery: ask rapid for advice
[2016-12-23 05:08:16] ett1 : get a proper edge
[2016-12-23 05:14:20] l3f : for the record I know jack shit about trading
[2016-12-23 05:14:26] l3f : everything I've learnt wolong taught me
[2016-12-23 05:14:47] elmorte : Regarding the my earlier question about increasing margin on a winning contract...it's affecting my liqd price on other contracts, that's why I'm worried about it...
[2016-12-23 05:14:52] l3f : three times a day I lay out my prayer mat and turn towards Singapore
[2016-12-23 05:15:16] laisee : wolong?
[2016-12-23 05:15:20] elmorte : Hahaha...Chinese lor u @l3f
[2016-12-23 05:15:38] elmorte : 1m, can buy passport
[2016-12-23 05:17:40] j8 : elmorte: technically you can get around it by self-trading with another account, although it's frowned upon (breaks the terms of use). that's why they should just let us do it
[2016-12-23 05:18:34] l3f : elmorte: Chinese lor?
[2016-12-23 05:18:44] j8 : and i don't think it actually affects your liq price. it's still useable margin
[2016-12-23 05:19:31] nOgAnOo : Good evening my friends
[2016-12-23 05:20:12] laisee : yuletide felicitations, nOgAnOo
[2016-12-23 05:20:46] Apocalyptic : nOgAnOo: damn, you're everwhere
[2016-12-23 05:21:19] nOgAnOo : My friend convinced me to come here.. I just made over 100% profit in my first hour trading btc
[2016-12-23 05:21:27] Apocalyptic : I remember you spamming religious stuff on IRC two/three years ago
[2016-12-23 05:21:28] imapotato : Hey, my margin long actually worked out.
[2016-12-23 05:21:36] Apocalyptic : how's life man
[2016-12-23 05:21:39] nOgAnOo : Was trading Yen on 1broker for 3 weeks. Made 400% in the last 2 days
[2016-12-23 05:21:43] imapotato : I thought for sure the market would dump on me.
[2016-12-23 05:21:57] nOgAnOo : Life is awesome.. I have almost 1000 carolina reaper plants started for next season
[2016-12-23 05:22:05] Apocalyptic : nOgAnOo: where can I invest ?
[2016-12-23 05:22:09] nOgAnOo : Just released 1500 ladybugs in the basement last night to eat the aphids
[2016-12-23 05:22:18] nOgAnOo : Dude I'm building robotic farming arms..
[2016-12-23 05:22:29] Apocalyptic : sounds awesome
[2016-12-23 05:22:31] nOgAnOo : On ropes.
[2016-12-23 05:22:45] nOgAnOo : Just like those camera systems in stadiums
[2016-12-23 05:23:00] nOgAnOo : Try arresting a robot for growing herb! Ha!
[2016-12-23 05:23:40] nOgAnOo : But yeah I'm hoping to turn this 0.1 BTC into much more
[2016-12-23 05:23:55] zanza : why Carolina Reapers?
[2016-12-23 05:23:58] ett1 : The DAGO (decentralised autonomous grow operation)
[2016-12-23 05:24:24] nOgAnOo : They are the hottest. I will produce pepper spray and oil out of many of them
[2016-12-23 05:24:42] nOgAnOo : plus the seeds are the most expensive.. i can make 1 million dollars of seeds off of 1 acre.. 4800 plants
[2016-12-23 05:25:05] nOgAnOo : I'm gonna try this next year.. and I actually have 400 varieties of peppers
[2016-12-23 05:25:05] elmorte : j8: it's shrinking the liqd price listed in the position for other contracts, probably because my avail balance is shrinking
[2016-12-23 05:25:17] Apocalyptic : nOgAnOo: planning to sell on OpenBazaar ?
[2016-12-23 05:25:27] nOgAnOo : For sure. I love OB
[2016-12-23 05:26:09] nOgAnOo : I'm making the best sodas in the world too.. out of fruit juices, honey and maple syrup
[2016-12-23 05:26:21] zanza : dat .36 funding cominfg
[2016-12-23 05:26:33] elmorte : l3f: I assumed you're from China and Singapore is your promise land. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
[2016-12-23 05:26:52] zanza : do you use hydroponics nOgAnOo ?
[2016-12-23 05:26:59] zanza : i specialize in plant nutrition
[2016-12-23 05:27:12] nOgAnOo : I will set up aeroponics soon.. I have most of the equipment.. in the past I've only used soil
[2016-12-23 05:27:25] nOgAnOo : Aquaponics too..
[2016-12-23 05:27:51] nOgAnOo : My parents have 40 acres that I am working on.. Building a resort.. treehouse village.. underwater restaurant in the fish pond
[2016-12-23 05:28:11] nOgAnOo : 3 story fallout shelter with rainforest.
[2016-12-23 05:28:26] zanza : aeroponics is too risky imo for commercial
[2016-12-23 05:28:40] Apocalyptic : nOgAnOo: impressive man
[2016-12-23 05:29:12] nOgAnOo : This will be a private resort.. and my other great idea is living salad bars.. all types of greens.. every dressing made on the land.. the cheese, turkey, ham, eggs, croutons..
[2016-12-23 05:29:50] ett1 : build a gokart track
[2016-12-23 05:30:03] zanza : make it vegan
[2016-12-23 05:30:08] zanza : no killing animals
[2016-12-23 05:30:11] nOgAnOo : I am obsessed with mario kart.. I just downloaded Double Dash yesterday
[2016-12-23 05:30:22] nOgAnOo : And I'm getting a Wii U for Christmas.. all for mario kart
[2016-12-23 05:30:38] nOgAnOo : I think those pro karts are actually only like 800 dollars.
[2016-12-23 05:31:03] ett1 : racing games are my favourite. burnout & gran turismo are cool
[2016-12-23 05:31:09] ett1 : but not on wii
[2016-12-23 05:31:27] nOgAnOo : I just tried the dolphin emulator with Gamecube on it and F-zero
[2016-12-23 05:31:41] nOgAnOo : F-zero Gamecube is one of the greatest games I never knew about..
[2016-12-23 05:32:48] CaptainDean : cheap casinocoins !
[2016-12-23 05:34:09] nOgAnOo : I can't believe I just doubled my money in an hour
[2016-12-23 05:34:12] nOgAnOo : first time trading BTC
[2016-12-23 05:34:23] j8 : famous last words
[2016-12-23 05:34:51] Apocalyptic : ^ this
[2016-12-23 05:34:53] zanza : ^
[2016-12-23 05:35:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2101 @ 903.33
[2016-12-23 05:35:16] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2016-12-23 05:35:51] nOgAnOo : Let's say a prayer for them.
[2016-12-23 05:36:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100000 @ 902.80 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-12-23 05:36:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 10000 @ 6376.5
[2016-12-23 05:37:57] zanza : wow
[2016-12-23 05:38:02] nOgAnOo : ouch
[2016-12-23 05:38:04] MrRGnome : roffle
[2016-12-23 05:38:05] halloz : lol
[2016-12-23 05:38:13] dodic : whoa
[2016-12-23 05:38:49] CaptainDean : chine still @ 919
[2016-12-23 05:38:50] l3f : wew lad
[2016-12-23 05:38:54] CaptainDean : China**
[2016-12-23 05:40:45] Apocalyptic : 100k, nice xmas gift there
[2016-12-23 05:41:34] l3f : https://twitter.com/BitmexRekt/status/812169999460732928
[2016-12-23 05:41:43] l3f : top shitposting right there
[2016-12-23 05:41:59] CaptainDean : hahah Epic
[2016-12-23 05:42:03] CaptainDean : did micmix did it ?
[2016-12-23 05:42:08] l3f : CaptainDean: no that's my bot
[2016-12-23 05:42:13] l3f : I own the twitter shitposter
[2016-12-23 05:42:19] CaptainDean : nice !
[2016-12-23 05:43:00] CaptainDean : if only i had read the description of the account before asking it ;-)
[2016-12-23 05:43:11] CaptainDean : I red*
[2016-12-23 05:45:11] zanza : https://www.reddit.com/r/emojipasta/
[2016-12-23 05:46:05] l3f : zanza: fucking lol
[2016-12-23 05:49:20] arbitrage001 : choo choo train
[2016-12-23 05:49:26] arbitrage001 : we were so close to 1000
[2016-12-23 05:49:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 900.24
[2016-12-23 05:50:29] ett1 : OMG 900 is holding...
[2016-12-23 05:50:42] ett1 : eeeeeeeeee
[2016-12-23 05:50:44] l3f : I think it could shake a bit lower
[2016-12-23 05:51:11] ett1 : im watchong stamp
[2016-12-23 05:51:13] billz : nah this is normal shaking
[2016-12-23 05:51:28] l3f : If I was sleger
[2016-12-23 05:51:30] billz : prob 880
[2016-12-23 05:51:33] l3f : I'd pump to 980
[2016-12-23 05:51:37] l3f : people will panic buy to 1000
[2016-12-23 05:51:47] l3f : and I'll dump so hard I'll have 4 yachts left by the end
[2016-12-23 05:52:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7 @ 899.58
[2016-12-23 05:52:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20000 @ 899.10
[2016-12-23 05:53:49] shery : lats chance to long on cheap prices
[2016-12-23 05:54:28] l3f : shery: that's what they want you to think
[2016-12-23 05:54:43] l3f : the panic sell is just starting
[2016-12-23 05:54:44] Apocalyptic : shery: thanks for telling us you just went short
[2016-12-23 05:55:06] shery : l3f: what you wanna say??
[2016-12-23 05:55:13] shiroe : It seems profit taking to spend on christmas is happening.
[2016-12-23 05:55:22] elmorte : I'm gonna paper trade this and see how it pans out
[2016-12-23 05:55:29] l3f : shery: I'm hoping the tree will shake a bit more
[2016-12-23 05:55:35] l3f : the money tree
[2016-12-23 05:55:36] ett1 : the christmas shopping can wait
[2016-12-23 05:55:53] shery : l3f: 6350 semms to be support
[2016-12-23 05:56:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50 @ 896.69
[2016-12-23 05:56:34] shiroe : make it 6000
[2016-12-23 05:56:46] shiroe : 5700 - 6400 in 48 hours is great.
[2016-12-23 05:56:48] arbitrage001 : both bulls and bears licking each other wound
[2016-12-23 05:56:54] arbitrage001 : lick lick
[2016-12-23 05:57:13] laisee : arbitrage001: thanks for that image ... not
[2016-12-23 05:57:39] shiroe : too many ants wants to attack the bear. lmfao
[2016-12-23 05:57:43] arbitrage001 : pump baby, let's keep the funding rate high
[2016-12-23 05:58:12] elmorte : down to 0.27 already, damn..
[2016-12-23 05:58:24] elmorte : How short are you @arbitrage001 ?
[2016-12-23 05:58:31] laisee : could everyone cashing out of BTC gains please form orderly queues for XMR, ZEC, ETC, ...
[2016-12-23 05:58:34] arbitrage001 : elmorte: not that much
[2016-12-23 05:58:43] arbitrage001 : -61914
[2016-12-23 05:58:49] l3f : give it a few hours
[2016-12-23 05:58:54] l3f : I don't feel the panic
[2016-12-23 05:59:09] shery : yum yum picked some cheap btc
[2016-12-23 05:59:12] l3f : when I feel the urge to panic dump then it's time to buy
[2016-12-23 05:59:12] elmorte : at what entry?
[2016-12-23 05:59:29] laisee : panic at the disco when BFX trading engine fails, again
[2016-12-23 05:59:32] arbitrage001 : some are short, most are neutral position
[2016-12-23 05:59:49] arbitrage001 : buy low and finex ane sell high here
[2016-12-23 06:00:07] arbitrage001 : as sleger pointed, arthur will pigeon send us the usd
[2016-12-23 06:00:37] elmorte : get that chequ, yeah. All fun and games till BFX crashes the market like @laisee
[2016-12-23 06:00:44] elmorte : said
[2016-12-23 06:01:01] arbitrage001 : this is why gamblers always lose
[2016-12-23 06:02:07] ett1 : wait, how to i enter a buy stop. e.g buy on market when price drops to 8XX
[2016-12-23 06:02:26] ett1 : im at the stop market tab, but set buy stop wont click
[2016-12-23 06:02:31] laisee : c'mon BFX, do what you do best ... crash your system and the market ...
[2016-12-23 06:04:14] j8 : ett1: that's not really a stop, just use a limit order
[2016-12-23 06:04:25] j8 : or hidden order if you don't want it to appear
[2016-12-23 06:04:45] ett1 : i thought limit is buy when price hits a level above, not below
[2016-12-23 06:04:48] arbitrage001 : and stoploss is dangerous here
[2016-12-23 06:04:52] ett1 : does it work both ways
[2016-12-23 06:05:04] arbitrage001 : can be 50-70 dollar below market price
[2016-12-23 06:05:10] ett1 : ye i want to try to catch a dip, but will have a tight stop below that entry
[2016-12-23 06:05:37] ett1 : ok might be better just to not bother
[2016-12-23 06:05:55] ett1 : it was a small amount anyway in relation
[2016-12-23 06:06:09] elmorte : ett1: try take profit
[2016-12-23 06:06:25] ett1 : i dont want to TP
[2016-12-23 06:06:33] ett1 : i want to hold, maybe buy the dip
[2016-12-23 06:06:39] elmorte : it's not what you think
[2016-12-23 06:06:39] ett1 : but i have a SL lower
[2016-12-23 06:06:49] j8 : then you want a limit buy and a sell stop
[2016-12-23 06:07:09] elmorte : yah, what @j8 sa
[2016-12-23 06:07:13] ett1 : yes, thanks
[2016-12-23 06:07:15] elmorte : said
[2016-12-23 06:07:33] ett1 : i thought the limit buy was called a "buy stop'
[2016-12-23 06:07:36] ett1 : thanks
[2016-12-23 06:08:25] ett1 : will a limit buy trigger if its set below, or above market price. it works either way?
[2016-12-23 06:08:40] j8 : limit orders don't have a trigger, they're placed immediately
[2016-12-23 06:08:47] j8 : but might not fill immediately
[2016-12-23 06:12:55] elmorte : I usually set my sell stop to trigger 0.01 above my buy limit...just to make sure my limit order filled. Is there a better way?
[2016-12-23 06:14:29] j8 : i don't get it
[2016-12-23 06:14:38] ett1 : elmorte: ye that confuses me too
[2016-12-23 06:14:57] elmorte : just a sec, work...
[2016-12-23 06:15:02] ett1 : stop should be below an entry price, not above
[2016-12-23 06:15:17] j8 : so you stop out 1 cent below your entry?
[2016-12-23 06:16:15] elmorte : Whoops, I'm swapped buy and sell
[2016-12-23 06:16:31] elmorte : 0.01 below my buy limit in that c
[2016-12-23 06:16:35] elmorte : case
[2016-12-23 06:16:42] j8 : so you stop out 1 cent below your entry?
[2016-12-23 06:17:38] elmorte : So I'm trying to catch the top, right. I'll have a limit short, and a short stop that triggers 0.01 above that
[2016-12-23 06:18:16] ett1 : ye thats like what j8 said.
[2016-12-23 06:18:21] elmorte : Does that make sense?
[2016-12-23 06:18:29] ett1 : your almost guaranteed to take a loss every time unless very lucky
[2016-12-23 06:18:49] ett1 : but you could increase it a bit more than 0.01
[2016-12-23 06:18:51] j8 : if you use last price trigger then yeah it's basically doomed
[2016-12-23 06:19:32] ett1 : your are trying to catch the exact point it turns
[2016-12-23 06:19:36] j8 : if you use index or mark price then maybe you'll get filled but not stopped out, but there's no significance to it being 1 cent apart
[2016-12-23 06:19:36] elmorte : how so? Last price is the trigger but the stop price is below the entry,,,,
[2016-12-23 06:19:54] elmorte : I'm not trying to take immediate profit
[2016-12-23 06:20:08] elmorte : just take advantage of the volatility
[2016-12-23 06:20:14] ett1 : you are trying to stop immediate loss
[2016-12-23 06:20:18] ett1 : right
[2016-12-23 06:20:33] elmorte : no not at all
[2016-12-23 06:20:43] ett1 : im a bit too stoned to this
[2016-12-23 06:20:59] ett1 : easier if we talk about long entry also
[2016-12-23 06:21:17] elmorte : so my short limit is at 900, and I'll have a stop buy limit that triggers at 900.01 and executes at 890...
[2016-12-23 06:21:30] j8 : so it's a stop limit, and you want an order placed to take profit as soon as you're filled
[2016-12-23 06:21:59] j8 : yeah ok i get it now
[2016-12-23 06:22:10] elmorte : what was I explaining wrong?
[2016-12-23 06:22:21] j8 : was thinking it was a stop market
[2016-12-23 06:22:27] elmorte : ah....hell no
[2016-12-23 06:22:28] ett1 : ok got it now
[2016-12-23 06:22:50] ett1 : ye we though youd short at 900 and stop out if it went 900.01
[2016-12-23 06:23:09] elmorte : but is there a better way? The price could reach 900, but not 900.01 so your stop never triggers...
[2016-12-23 06:23:11] j8 : i think that's probably the easiest way to do it, if you use the API you can place contingent orders
[2016-12-23 06:23:38] elmorte : yeah, bot is more suited for that
[2016-12-23 06:23:39] j8 : where your second order is directly linked to the first
[2016-12-23 06:23:52] ett1 : whats stopping you set the limit order for 900 not 900.01
[2016-12-23 06:23:56] orly : elmorte: can't you trigger it at 900?
[2016-12-23 06:24:02] elmorte : It has to be thru a bot, right?
[2016-12-23 06:24:05] orly : so your own fill would trigger it
[2016-12-23 06:24:07] j8 : then he might only be partially filled
[2016-12-23 06:24:17] orly : oic
[2016-12-23 06:24:19] elmorte : What if I'm not the first in line on 900....or if it only partially fil
[2016-12-23 06:24:46] elmorte : wow, my laptop is lagging so much it keeps cutting off the last two chars I type
[2016-12-23 06:25:35] ett1 : try refreshing the browser. sometimes bitmex uses up memory
[2016-12-23 06:26:19] elmorte : BitMEX 633MB...it's the Gmails that are using up the bulk
[2016-12-23 06:27:10] elmorte : Refresh reduced it to 200MB...cheers @ett1
[2016-12-23 06:27:51] ett1 : heard it leaks or something
[2016-12-23 06:28:10] elmorte : j8: so querying the API should only be done by a bot, right?
[2016-12-23 06:28:30] elmorte : ett1: I had worse with huobi and polo
[2016-12-23 06:28:56] ett1 : so you have an SSD
[2016-12-23 06:29:13] j8 : elmorte: a bot, or a custom trading interface
[2016-12-23 06:29:20] elmorte : yup 500GB and 8GB of RAM
[2016-12-23 06:29:24] ett1 : ive got a 2009 macbook. as soon as i added SSD it was a different machine
[2016-12-23 06:29:32] ett1 : 4gb ram
[2016-12-23 06:29:38] ett1 : but it flies
[2016-12-23 06:29:45] elmorte : custom trading interface....do tell? @j8
[2016-12-23 06:29:49] j8 : or if you want to try something, the API Explorer is pretty easy to do manual queries
[2016-12-23 06:30:29] elmorte : ett1: tell me about it, this POS went from 0 to 11 when I swapped out the old drive for SSD
[2016-12-23 06:30:36] j8 : you could create your own trading interface with advanced features, or buy one or something
[2016-12-23 06:30:52] elmorte : j8: if I'm gonna do it manually, I might as well sit and watch mex UI :)
[2016-12-23 06:31:03] dodic : Do people "close" their positions by entering the opposite position at an equal amount ever?
[2016-12-23 06:31:12] elmorte : dodic: I do
[2016-12-23 06:31:27] ett1 : j8: is that easy to do in angularJS. lookin gfo r project to learn on
[2016-12-23 06:31:35] j8 : some people like to trade several exchanges in one common interface
[2016-12-23 06:31:42] dodic : @elmorte is there an advantage to that?
[2016-12-23 06:31:53] j8 : i have no idea about angularJS, but probably
[2016-12-23 06:32:03] elmorte : dodic: saves you mistyping the quantity
[2016-12-23 06:32:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: buy 9 @ 0.058308
[2016-12-23 06:32:28] elmorte : dodic: we're talking about close limit, not close market, just to be
[2016-12-23 06:32:36] elmorte : clear
[2016-12-23 06:33:17] dodic : gotcha
[2016-12-23 06:35:28] elmorte : ett1: I have a surface pro 4 that's a beast of a machine but I just find myself more productive on my old 2012 laptop
[2016-12-23 06:35:51] elmorte : except during a bull run
[2016-12-23 06:36:51] j8 : here's what my interface looks like :) http://imgur.com/a/kf1iv
[2016-12-23 06:36:57] ett1 : elmorte: i got this windows 8 tablet for under $150. full windows and really good to plug into a TV
[2016-12-23 06:37:14] ett1 : linx 8 it was called. i dont really use it much tho
[2016-12-23 06:38:02] elmorte : j8: but where's all the pictures??
[2016-12-23 06:38:39] j8 : they don't work so well in a command line interface
[2016-12-23 06:38:45] elmorte : :)
[2016-12-23 06:38:54] j8 : maybe emojis though...
[2016-12-23 06:38:56] elmorte : So that's basically all the orderbooks?
[2016-12-23 06:39:09] nick17 : When I
[2016-12-23 06:39:23] j8 : yeah, there's some woodchipper and bitstamp and whatever i'm trading on bitmex
[2016-12-23 06:39:48] j8 : there's a lot more to it but that's the part that doesn't show my positions
[2016-12-23 06:39:49] elmorte : j8: you much of a TA person?
[2016-12-23 06:39:54] j8 : nope
[2016-12-23 06:40:20] elmorte : Thanks good
[2016-12-23 06:40:24] elmorte : nees
[2016-12-23 06:40:43] j8 : see how XBJ is converted to USD (bottom right)... very handy
[2016-12-23 06:40:43] elmorte : I was starting to doubt myself
[2016-12-23 06:40:49] ett1 : j8: would you prefer if it was styled in HTML
[2016-12-23 06:41:04] elmorte : oooh, sweet
[2016-12-23 06:41:26] nick17 : On ZECH17, After I bought some large quantity (~100), while in short position - my 'Available Balance' did not change (i.e. only the Size of my position was decreased by the volume amount) - why is this?
[2016-12-23 06:41:39] elmorte : I manually convert for CNY
[2016-12-23 06:42:13] j8 : ett1: i'm not really a fan of javascript, i started doing a real gui in c++ but got distracted
[2016-12-23 06:42:14] elmorte : Haven't dabbled in XBJ, know fck all about Yen
[2016-12-23 06:43:12] ett1 : j8: i know hardly any python or javascript, but front end stuff is really easy with templates
[2016-12-23 06:43:36] j8 : yeah, i should probably learn that stuff
[2016-12-23 06:43:58] elmorte : famous trollbox words
[2016-12-23 06:44:13] ett1 : j8: https://www.toptal.com/angular-js/a-step-by-step-guide-to-your-first-angularjs-app
[2016-12-23 06:44:17] j8 : my first attempt at this sort of thing in 2014 was html and php.. lol
[2016-12-23 06:44:22] nick17 : how can I contact someone from bitmex on this chat, please?
[2016-12-23 06:44:26] ett1 : i did a blockchain exlorer in 1 day
[2016-12-23 06:44:44] ett1 : just followed that tutorial and made changes to the API and layout
[2016-12-23 06:45:23] ett1 : it would be easy for what you are tryin got do, to make it styled lor have different tabs etc
[2016-12-23 06:45:34] elmorte : nick17: support@bitmex.com
[2016-12-23 06:46:05] j8 : i dunno, i think CLI has it's charm
[2016-12-23 06:46:21] ett1 : j8: i dont know python or javascript, but know how to script for backtesting platform & web design i wordpress plus simple HTML/js edits
[2016-12-23 06:46:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1780 @ 0.008280
[2016-12-23 06:46:36] CaptainDean : Zec is pumping
[2016-12-23 06:46:41] ett1 : but that tutorial was really good to build something useful quickly
[2016-12-23 06:46:48] CaptainDean : great day for zec
[2016-12-23 06:49:05] j8 : ett1: added it to my long list of neglected programming bookmarks. i started learning React at one point also and got distracted.
[2016-12-23 06:49:24] ett1 : honestly try this first
[2016-12-23 06:49:35] ett1 : It took me a day, and ive been meaning to learn programming for years
[2016-12-23 06:49:58] ett1 : nodejs and python are on my to do list, but i never bothered sticking with it
[2016-12-23 06:58:02] nick17 : Can someone help me please, on a short position on 'ZECH17' when after I buy my 'Available Balance' is not updated at all.- Why?
[2016-12-23 06:59:02] nick17 : (On 'ZECH16', with a similar short position, after I 'Buy' - my 'Available Balance' does increase accordingly)
[2016-12-23 07:00:22] aethlios : contact support, or ask here if bitmex staff is reading.
[2016-12-23 07:00:37] nick17 : just sent an email
[2016-12-23 07:00:56] nick17 : but need quick response... how can I contact them here on the chat?
[2016-12-23 07:01:33] BitMEX_Jinming : nick17: we are looking at it.
[2016-12-23 07:01:56] nick17 : thank you
[2016-12-23 07:08:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 600 @ 905.41
[2016-12-23 07:13:27] elmorte : Glad I only shorted the swap on paper
[2016-12-23 07:16:07] micmix : paper shorts give paper cuts
[2016-12-23 07:17:19] micmix : real shorts give you heart attack
[2016-12-23 07:17:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 70 @ 907.74
[2016-12-23 07:18:23] elmorte : micmix: what's the thumbs up emoticon code?
[2016-12-23 07:18:32] elmorte : ::thumbsup::
[2016-12-23 07:18:38] micmix : : +1 :
[2016-12-23 07:18:38] elmorte : whoa...first guess
[2016-12-23 07:29:14] deeprocks : (y)
[2016-12-23 07:29:22] deeprocks : okay its not that XD
[2016-12-23 07:29:38] elmorte : yeah, that's Skype :)
[2016-12-23 07:38:46] l3f : Two days ago
[2016-12-23 07:38:51] l3f : my account was 20btc
[2016-12-23 07:38:56] l3f : now I'm 30 btc
[2016-12-23 07:38:58] l3f : what the fuck
[2016-12-23 07:41:24] deeprocks : well done
[2016-12-23 07:41:41] deeprocks : i am learning to trade started yesterday XD
[2016-12-23 07:41:48] deeprocks : super small amounts
[2016-12-23 07:42:24] deeprocks : currently at 30% profit lot to learn tho
[2016-12-23 07:44:14] Derreck : Yesterday XBTH17 is today's XBTUSD. Insanity!
[2016-12-23 07:47:34] Gomezpl : yeah derreck we are telling here since last 150 bucks whereis correction;p
[2016-12-23 07:49:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 52000 @ 6413.4 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-23 07:51:28] micmix : ^^^ that's a lot of money
[2016-12-23 07:52:23] j8 : longs getting liquidated at this price...
[2016-12-23 07:53:26] arbitrage001 : some dont control risk
[2016-12-23 07:53:36] arbitrage001 : long getting rekt at strong bull trend market
[2016-12-23 07:55:05] orly : j8: is your trading interface open source? ;)
[2016-12-23 07:55:41] j8 : nobody would know how to use it except me :)
[2016-12-23 07:56:25] j8 : but i plan on cleaning it up and maybe sharing it
[2016-12-23 07:56:43] arbitrage001 : j8: can you also share how to make profit part
[2016-12-23 07:57:25] orly : j8: would be nice, these web interfaces are terrible resource hogs when you have a couple of them open
[2016-12-23 07:57:38] micmix : making profit always easy: buy low, sell high, repeat
[2016-12-23 07:58:01] micmix : you can sell high, buy low later as well
[2016-12-23 07:58:05] j8 : orly: that's part of why i did it, although i need to work on optimizing things, it's not much better
[2016-12-23 07:58:22] bernx : l3f: lol.
[2016-12-23 07:58:32] arbitrage001 : micmix: that is what i thought, but i sold a lot of high and the price keep going higher
[2016-12-23 07:59:18] j8 : sounds like you sold low
[2016-12-23 07:59:33] micmix : or didn't buy before selling
[2016-12-23 08:00:10] ett1 : he sold too early
[2016-12-23 08:00:18] j8 : settlement time. moment of truth
[2016-12-23 08:00:21] ett1 : bitcoin can always go a lo further than you think
[2016-12-23 08:00:36] arbitrage001 : i am going out to jog to clear my mind
[2016-12-23 08:00:39] j8 : not a coincidence that we're on the edge of new highs at this minute
[2016-12-23 08:01:27] rapidtrades : what the actual f*ck bitcorn
[2016-12-23 08:01:35] micmix : grats to everyone who survived to settlement ;-)
[2016-12-23 08:02:00] m3s : onwards my brothers
[2016-12-23 08:02:24] rapidtrades : micmix: wtf micmix
[2016-12-23 08:02:34] micmix : ?
[2016-12-23 08:03:06] rapidtrades : $909 for a fake internet token?
[2016-12-23 08:03:19] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: how much you shorted
[2016-12-23 08:03:22] elmorte : shortie pants
[2016-12-23 08:03:30] j8 : ooh denied
[2016-12-23 08:03:32] arbitrage001 : bigger than mine?
[2016-12-23 08:03:36] AudibleScience : rapidtrades:have you got a big short in bitcoin?
[2016-12-23 08:03:40] arbitrage001 : -61914
[2016-12-23 08:03:42] micmix : ppl are buying with fake internet money
[2016-12-23 08:03:47] elmorte : the computer says No
[2016-12-23 08:03:53] ett1 : rapidtrades: whats your SL
[2016-12-23 08:04:13] elmorte : What's SL again...?
[2016-12-23 08:04:37] ett1 : elmorte: stop loss
[2016-12-23 08:04:40] ett1 : bitcoin is a ponzi scheme
[2016-12-23 08:05:12] elmorte : oh...damnit...should've bought into onecoin
[2016-12-23 08:05:27] deeprocks : the quantity on limit is changing to my current open position each time after i buy is that supposed to happen?
[2016-12-23 08:05:29] elmorte : They were gonna let me buy in with bitcoin too
[2016-12-23 08:05:37] ett1 : satoshi nakamoto is no better than bernard madoff. menace to society
[2016-12-23 08:06:03] elmorte : deeprocks: only if you keep clicking on the quantity
[2016-12-23 08:06:08] arbitrage001 : ett1: and you think ben bernanke and janet yellen are better?
[2016-12-23 08:06:34] deeprocks : elmorte: oh thanks i asked cause it made me purchase a huge order instead of a small one
[2016-12-23 08:06:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 600 @ 906.49
[2016-12-23 08:06:47] elmorte : yup, careful with that
[2016-12-23 08:06:55] ett1 : central bankers are legal fraidsters
[2016-12-23 08:06:56] arbitrage001 : here we go
[2016-12-23 08:07:05] arbitrage001 : correction to 500