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[2016-12-23 03:19:02] narnarfromnarnia : how is this behaving so different from perpetual?
[2016-12-23 03:19:31] tb : where are all the liquidations?
[2016-12-23 03:19:33] ett1 : aethlios: not sure. but the market cap has hit a new highs
[2016-12-23 03:19:55] ett1 : tb: china chatbox
[2016-12-23 03:19:56] lockhedge : aethlios: ATH was €858 on Bitcoin.de https://bitcoincharts.com/charts/btcdeEUR#rg1460ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv
[2016-12-23 03:20:22] aethlios : lockhedge: thanks, so 2 eur before ath!!!
[2016-12-23 03:20:30] tb : no I mean where are the 200k+ contract ones?
[2016-12-23 03:23:17] aethlios : tb: whales are out there.....
[2016-12-23 03:26:55] halloz : Strap in folks
[2016-12-23 03:27:37] aethlios : finex 900
[2016-12-23 03:27:44] shiroe : woah 900
[2016-12-23 03:27:55] fuckshitstack : is there a fee for a canceled order
[2016-12-23 03:28:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4850 @ 897.75
[2016-12-23 03:29:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 10 @ 0.001207
[2016-12-23 03:30:12] halloz : weeeeeeeee
[2016-12-23 03:30:33] ayy_lmao : eeeeeeee
[2016-12-23 03:30:37] halloz : eeeeeeee
[2016-12-23 03:31:02] Coconuter : weeeeee
[2016-12-23 03:32:10] tb : ok. time to fomo 100x long
[2016-12-23 03:32:11] halloz : Huston - we have reached orbit
[2016-12-23 03:32:22] shiroe : damn
[2016-12-23 03:32:48] m3s : tb: do it brah
[2016-12-23 03:33:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1094 @ 902.91
[2016-12-23 03:35:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 350 @ 0.002641
[2016-12-23 03:35:39] ett1 : lets say i have a 10,000 XBT swaps
[2016-12-23 03:35:53] ett1 : funding rate is 0.12% lets say
[2016-12-23 03:36:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 8500 @ 6387.2
[2016-12-23 03:36:15] shiroe : ouch
[2016-12-23 03:36:20] shiroe : haha
[2016-12-23 03:36:33] ett1 : does that mean that in a day, i'm charged 0.36% of $10,000?
[2016-12-23 03:36:40] MrRGnome : I'm excited to see where the new floor ends up being
[2016-12-23 03:36:47] ett1 : (funding rate every 8 hours)
[2016-12-23 03:37:05] shiroe : 6k?
[2016-12-23 03:37:06] j8 : yep if it's 0.12 for 3 periods
[2016-12-23 03:37:43] j8 : of course you're charged in bitcoin so the amount of btc depends on the index price at the funding time
[2016-12-23 03:37:47] ett1 : so basically it would be approx 1% in 3 days
[2016-12-23 03:37:57] ett1 : if funding rate stays around that level
[2016-12-23 03:38:45] j8 : yeah, and it can go as high as 0.375% per period, so triple that
[2016-12-23 03:38:47] MrRGnome : ett1: the funding rate is very unlikely to stay that high over 3 days, but it's possible. It should be noted you only pay funding if you long right now.
[2016-12-23 03:38:49] Hawkeye : you get paid for shorting btc though ;)
[2016-12-23 03:38:51] MrRGnome : You get paid funding if you short.
[2016-12-23 03:39:14] Hawkeye : all short (so i can buy cheap)
[2016-12-23 03:39:26] ett1 : yes i understand that. just wanted to make sure i uderstood the calculation right
[2016-12-23 03:39:30] halloz : These memberberries are the sh!t
[2016-12-23 03:40:08] MrRGnome : I'm ready to memberberry $1000/coin
[2016-12-23 03:40:29] shiroe : timbeeeeer
[2016-12-23 03:40:49] Hawkeye : oh them longs that will get liq.....
[2016-12-23 03:40:54] Hawkeye : chain reaction ?
[2016-12-23 03:40:55] Rado : hey guys
[2016-12-23 03:40:59] Rado : how is it going
[2016-12-23 03:41:18] j8 : just great. whats up rado
[2016-12-23 03:41:21] Hawkeye : bad btc messes up my sleep 4.40 AM here
[2016-12-23 03:41:48] Rado : just came back home to a nice surprise
[2016-12-23 03:41:51] Rado : over $900
[2016-12-23 03:41:53] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-23 03:42:04] MrRGnome : Now that we have broke 900 I think we are in for another leg
[2016-12-23 03:42:08] Rado : Hawkeye: he he
[2016-12-23 03:42:14] Rado : did you have alerts going off
[2016-12-23 03:42:21] Hawkeye : no up all this time
[2016-12-23 03:42:22] MrRGnome : Calling a resistance bounce at 1k
[2016-12-23 03:42:29] Hawkeye : sellig to cheap then buying back in ;)
[2016-12-23 03:42:30] arbitrage001 : j8: did you notice the funding rate calculation seems less than what it should be?
[2016-12-23 03:42:37] Rado : yes
[2016-12-23 03:42:42] Rado : it has been low
[2016-12-23 03:42:44] j8 : should be based on what?
[2016-12-23 03:42:55] Rado : on the rate of increase?
[2016-12-23 03:42:58] arbitrage001 : j8: compare to before
[2016-12-23 03:43:10] ett1 : Rado: woke up panicking thinking id missed a big move. slept thru the 860 consolodation
[2016-12-23 03:43:16] ett1 : nothing happened
[2016-12-23 03:43:17] j8 : for sure, normally we'd hit the cap for at least 1 or 2 periods
[2016-12-23 03:43:20] arbitrage001 : Rado: the mark price has slowed
[2016-12-23 03:43:23] j8 : on this kind of move
[2016-12-23 03:43:34] Rado : yes j8
[2016-12-23 03:43:40] Rado : that's what I meant
[2016-12-23 03:43:48] j8 : but also, normally futures would have blown up to like 2% per week
[2016-12-23 03:43:55] aethlios : whales want 1000 to break and make worldwide headlines, margin call bears and then retrace to 900, so pump to 1050 retrace to 900 and slowly up again.
[2016-12-23 03:43:59] Rado : did we hit record volume for BitMEX
[2016-12-23 03:44:06] Rado : 22k XBT
[2016-12-23 03:44:26] Rado : almost 20 mill contarcts
[2016-12-23 03:44:31] j8 : damn
[2016-12-23 03:44:42] aethlios : Rado: add all btc contracts
[2016-12-23 03:44:46] Rado : j8
[2016-12-23 03:44:57] Rado : my MM bot holding flat
[2016-12-23 03:44:59] aethlios : volume 33K btc here
[2016-12-23 03:45:11] Rado : no profit, but pretty happy that is not losing on this jump
[2016-12-23 03:45:39] MrRGnome : Too scared to ride, been burned too many bubbles before. Just holding and enjoying the show.
[2016-12-23 03:45:40] thiago : coinmarketcap says bitmex has 11% of bitcoin volume on last 24 hours.. how come chinese exchanges dont figure?
[2016-12-23 03:45:54] j8 : yeah, you got a nice test early on.. i'd be worried running a brand new bot in this market @Rado
[2016-12-23 03:46:12] aethlios : thiago: it is exchanges with fees
[2016-12-23 03:46:22] arbitrage001 : my nicely mint bot already stop
[2016-12-23 03:46:39] Rado : j8: I am worried :-)
[2016-12-23 03:46:43] Rado : but a nice test for sure
[2016-12-23 03:46:53] aethlios : whales want bear blood and will push to 1050 then crash to 900
[2016-12-23 03:47:03] MrRGnome : ^^ good prediction
[2016-12-23 03:47:07] Rado : not many liquidations when we are going up
[2016-12-23 03:47:21] arbitrage001 : cuz people who short usually know what they are doing
[2016-12-23 03:47:27] Rado : when a sharp correction comes we will get some nasty ones
[2016-12-23 03:47:46] arbitrage001 : long mostly make up of gamblers
[2016-12-23 03:47:51] m3s : aethlios: doesnt okc have fees for using margin ?
[2016-12-23 03:48:43] aethlios : m3s: i use okcoin futures and they have fees, but spot i think has zero fees (trading fees, not borrowing fees)
[2016-12-23 03:49:15] m3s : aethlios: yup thats what i thought. thanks
[2016-12-23 03:49:27] halloz : goodbye yall - may the crypto gods bless you all with Tesla Xs and Falcon Heavy rockets
[2016-12-23 03:50:04] aethlios : m3s: http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/all/ here shows all, fees and no fees, fake china shows billions of usd volume.
[2016-12-23 03:50:40] Rado : halloz: see ya
[2016-12-23 03:51:11] aethlios : m3s: 3 first chinese exchanges daily volume the total btc market cap, can't get more obvious scummy than that
[2016-12-23 03:51:28] j8 : yeah china "trades" the entire bitcoin supply in one day...
[2016-12-23 03:51:52] m3s : aethlios: maybe they just count all that lent funds as volume
[2016-12-23 03:52:11] aethlios : m3s: no volume is traded btc.
[2016-12-23 03:52:12] arbitrage001 : j8: just money changing hand
[2016-12-23 03:52:19] arbitrage001 : fundamental has not change
[2016-12-23 03:52:21] Rado : another push
[2016-12-23 03:52:27] MrRGnome : look at those buys wow
[2016-12-23 03:52:34] Rado : lets see some crazy candles
[2016-12-23 03:52:39] m3s : here we go bois
[2016-12-23 03:52:39] j8 : arbitrage001: from the left hand to the right hand
[2016-12-23 03:52:41] MrRGnome : aggressive as fck
[2016-12-23 03:53:21] MrRGnome : Even if it is just wash trades leading the charge, the rest of the world is following the piper. Money is moving.
[2016-12-23 03:53:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 70 @ 905.46
[2016-12-23 03:53:30] Rado : 70 lol
[2016-12-23 03:53:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20000 @ 906.24
[2016-12-23 03:53:51] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it!
[2016-12-23 03:53:59] m3s : ouch
[2016-12-23 03:54:04] j8 : the sad thing is that people STILL pay attention to china volume, even though it's obviously mostly fake
[2016-12-23 03:54:25] aethlios : epic moments, all 2013-2014 again
[2016-12-23 03:54:50] m3s : aethlios: wasnt that pump faster ?
[2016-12-23 03:54:57] MrRGnome : So much faster.
[2016-12-23 03:55:01] arbitrage001 : j8: main problem is btc is float is too low compare to its cap
[2016-12-23 03:55:01] Rado : REKT that's not original at all
[2016-12-23 03:55:08] Rado : come up with new lines
[2016-12-23 03:55:17] arbitrage001 : btc float
[2016-12-23 03:55:45] j8 : from hoarding you mean?
[2016-12-23 03:55:52] arbitrage001 : yes
[2016-12-23 03:55:54] Rado : big spread on swap
[2016-12-23 03:55:55] aethlios : m3s: pump will start above 1250, after we make new ATH, we are still approaching, this is pre-pump preparation activity.
[2016-12-23 03:55:59] arbitrage001 : and lost/hack coins
[2016-12-23 03:56:23] m3s : aethlios: lets hope so lol
[2016-12-23 03:56:31] ett1 : arbitrage001: float?
[2016-12-23 03:56:40] MrRGnome : As bad as I feel for shorters, at least they have some consolation funding coming
[2016-12-23 03:56:42] arbitrage001 : number of coin is circulation
[2016-12-23 03:56:46] CaptainDean : Holy BTC
[2016-12-23 03:56:49] arbitrage001 : in circulation
[2016-12-23 03:56:51] CaptainDean : what a ride
[2016-12-23 03:57:01] aethlios : this time i think slower upwards, more exchanges, also derivatives, market more mature.
[2016-12-23 03:57:13] shiroe : i wonder if this is the top or just a stop.
[2016-12-23 03:57:29] ett1 : arbitrage001: why is it too low. is too low bullish or bearish to you
[2016-12-23 03:57:29] m3s : refueling brah
[2016-12-23 03:57:44] AlfredE : one thing I learned so far, dont think!
[2016-12-23 03:57:44] ett1 : i havnt paid attention to it so curious
[2016-12-23 03:57:49] j8 : yeah i don't really get your point @arbitrage001. that the market cap is easy to move?
[2016-12-23 03:57:59] arbitrage001 : ett1: too low means whales make the rule, can make it go up or down easier
[2016-12-23 03:58:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 2601 @ 965.65
[2016-12-23 03:58:52] arbitrage001 : j8: yes. last traded price dictate the cap
[2016-12-23 03:58:56] ett1 : low float = low coins in circulations = a few hoarders (whales) to you?
[2016-12-23 03:59:05] ett1 : just want to undestand i got the logic right
[2016-12-23 03:59:14] arbitrage001 : j8: so, people with money can trade against themselves to move the price
[2016-12-23 03:59:20] arbitrage001 : up or down
[2016-12-23 03:59:24] ett1 : the hoarders arnt necessarily whales trying to manipulate price
[2016-12-23 03:59:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2500 @ 909.19
[2016-12-23 03:59:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 630 @ 909.95
[2016-12-23 03:59:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20242 @ 909.29
[2016-12-23 03:59:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 1111 @ 913.56
[2016-12-23 03:59:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 18000 @ 913.97
[2016-12-23 03:59:38] m3s : lol
[2016-12-23 03:59:42] halloz : Holy shit
[2016-12-23 03:59:46] ett1 : infact i doubt it. probably just passive holders or burned coins
[2016-12-23 04:00:07] Rado : whales is such a stupid concept
[2016-12-23 04:00:11] ett1 : whales are just a small piece of that
[2016-12-23 04:00:21] ett1 : they make up a tiny fraction of the market
[2016-12-23 04:00:40] Rado : j8 is a whale by most people's standards
[2016-12-23 04:00:45] ett1 : lots of businesses just sitting on crypto and wont speculate. like mone held in the bank
[2016-12-23 04:00:46] Rado : what the fuck is a whale
[2016-12-23 04:01:01] j8 : i've always thought the fake volume was more about exchanges competing for domincance
[2016-12-23 04:01:07] MrRGnome : china says fuggit, lets go higher
[2016-12-23 04:01:11] Rado : j8: agreed
[2016-12-23 04:01:11] j8 : lol hardly @Rado
[2016-12-23 04:01:22] halloz : Bitcoin doesn't give a f*ck about your feelings
[2016-12-23 04:01:38] Rado : let's see $950
[2016-12-23 04:01:43] Rado : so I can do some trades
[2016-12-23 04:01:47] Rado : ;-)
[2016-12-23 04:02:06] MrRGnome : this is some exciting shit boys! the rocket is blasting off through $900
[2016-12-23 04:02:18] m3s : like it was nothing
[2016-12-23 04:02:19] Rado : ?
[2016-12-23 04:02:38] sleger : 900 was nothing
[2016-12-23 04:02:59] Rado : hey sleger
[2016-12-23 04:02:59] CaptainDean : the correctin will be brutal
[2016-12-23 04:03:31] m3s : CaptainDean: it wont, too many fomo buyers
[2016-12-23 04:03:46] CaptainDean : m3s: yeah it's insane
[2016-12-23 04:03:56] Rado : it will be eventually
[2016-12-23 04:03:58] iefken : fomo buyers?
[2016-12-23 04:04:00] Rado : no one kknows where
[2016-12-23 04:04:02] Rado : knows
[2016-12-23 04:04:09] Rado : maybe from 1000 down to 900
[2016-12-23 04:04:17] Rado : or from 1300 down to 1000
[2016-12-23 04:04:20] Rado : who knows
[2016-12-23 04:04:32] m3s : iefken: people who were looking at btc but didnt buy and are seeing it rise now are fomoing
[2016-12-23 04:04:52] iefken : thx
[2016-12-23 04:05:00] MrRGnome : I expect it to find a floor ~20%-33% below the total it rose
[2016-12-23 04:05:16] MrRGnome : I'm almost as excited to see wher ethe new floo is as I am to see how high it goes.
[2016-12-23 04:05:33] ett1 : ye lots were waiting for a breakout confirmation and will be reacting now rather than predicting it
[2016-12-23 04:06:03] m3s : if 800 wasnt a breakout indicator i dont know what was lol
[2016-12-23 04:06:13] Rado : volume is actually lower than earlier
[2016-12-23 04:06:23] Yoshi1975 : This coin is relentless... Can it go back down a bit
[2016-12-23 04:06:31] MrRGnome : Someone should start a pool betting on which exchange fucks up this bull run for everyone
[2016-12-23 04:06:46] Rado : MrRGnome: please
[2016-12-23 04:06:46] ett1 : bitfinex
[2016-12-23 04:06:47] m3s : okcasino probably
[2016-12-23 04:06:57] Rado : we don't want that
[2016-12-23 04:07:11] Rado : but I vote for okcoin as well
[2016-12-23 04:07:31] ett1 : stamp would be hilarious
[2016-12-23 04:07:39] Rado : no one from BiMEX in here anymore?
[2016-12-23 04:07:39] ett1 : no faith in anything anymore
[2016-12-23 04:07:45] MrRGnome : I don't know, bitfinex is so good at crewing up bull runs - they are like experts.
[2016-12-23 04:08:01] ett1 : ye bitfinex are crooks. my money would def be on them
[2016-12-23 04:08:15] ett1 : maybe another hack. last inside job made them millions
[2016-12-23 04:08:16] shiroe : it moves 50 points, xbt moves 20 dollars. lels
[2016-12-23 04:08:19] Rado : MrRGnome: they already fucked up though
[2016-12-23 04:08:56] Rado : alts not falling much
[2016-12-23 04:09:01] ett1 : nothing happened to them, so why wouldnt they do it again and milk the cow
[2016-12-23 04:09:15] m3s : Rado: bitcoin not rising that much yet :D
[2016-12-23 04:09:24] Rado : ha ha
[2016-12-23 04:09:30] Rado : just $100
[2016-12-23 04:09:46] Rado : I think correlation is no there every time
[2016-12-23 04:09:47] MrRGnome : I'm willing to bet the first sign of trouble will be bitfinex or okcasino freezing up and causing panic
[2016-12-23 04:09:56] Rado : alt coins benefit in some way from BTC going up as well
[2016-12-23 04:10:20] l3f : Fucking kek
[2016-12-23 04:10:22] l3f : you fuck
[2016-12-23 04:10:24] l3f : who didn't short
[2016-12-23 04:10:28] l3f : you'll all fucking winners
[2016-12-23 04:10:29] m3s : eth holding strong with dat 1500 buy support
[2016-12-23 04:10:55] l3f : 960 fuckkkkkk
[2016-12-23 04:11:04] l3f : wat the fuck have you guys been doing?
[2016-12-23 04:11:29] MrRGnome : I like how you can tell rapidtrades isn't short because he isn't in here losing his shit like l3f
[2016-12-23 04:12:06] m3s : why would anyone be short right now
[2016-12-23 04:12:13] l3f : I'm +7btc again
[2016-12-23 04:12:16] l3f : and I'm like losing my shit
[2016-12-23 04:12:19] MrRGnome : Several people were preaching shorts a few hours ago
[2016-12-23 04:12:22] Rado : doji forming on 30 min chart
[2016-12-23 04:12:35] MrRGnome : l3f nice grats
[2016-12-23 04:12:36] l3f : MrRGnome: they got what the deserved
[2016-12-23 04:12:44] Rado : l3f: better take some off the table
[2016-12-23 04:12:47] m3s : l3f: gg grats
[2016-12-23 04:12:49] l3f : THE DOUBLING DOESN'T STOP
[2016-12-23 04:12:49] ett1 : i wonder if the fuhrer knows we broke 800. he'll be upset if we break 1000 and he hasnt go his longs in
[2016-12-23 04:13:06] MrRGnome : I'm jealous of the monster size balls everyone riding this wave on leverage has
[2016-12-23 04:13:21] l3f : MrRGnome: this isn't even my final form
[2016-12-23 04:13:28] m3s : MrRGnome: dont you like free money :D
[2016-12-23 04:13:55] Rado : m3s: there is no such thing
[2016-12-23 04:14:21] MrRGnome : I've rode this ride before, the end is rough
[2016-12-23 04:14:41] MrRGnome : I've decided the right thing to do in these bubbles is just hold.
[2016-12-23 04:14:44] ett1 : yes there is. my fx broker just offered me a $20 sign up bonus @Rado
[2016-12-23 04:14:47] MrRGnome : leverage is a killer
[2016-12-23 04:15:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10000 @ 907.63
[2016-12-23 04:15:09] Rado : ett1: he he
[2016-12-23 04:15:30] l3f : do you know how hard managing a position is
[2016-12-23 04:15:32] ett1 : the right thing to do is sell your wife, morgagge the house and go all in with 25x
[2016-12-23 04:15:33] l3f : while cooking a turkey
[2016-12-23 04:15:36] l3f : this is next level
[2016-12-23 04:15:51] arbitrage001 : ett1: yes, dont forget the children also
[2016-12-23 04:15:56] arbitrage001 : sell them all
[2016-12-23 04:16:03] m3s : ett1: why only 25x
[2016-12-23 04:16:07] MrRGnome : Making me hungry
[2016-12-23 04:16:31] ett1 : m3s: risk management is vital
[2016-12-23 04:17:04] Rado : it is
[2016-12-23 04:17:20] ett1 : but you may increase as your position goes into profit
[2016-12-23 04:17:27] Rado : no matter how lucky ou are if you don't manage your risk you wil be fucked sooner or later
[2016-12-23 04:17:48] ett1 : take big risks early on
[2016-12-23 04:18:02] ett1 : take smaller and smaller as things go well
[2016-12-23 04:18:14] m3s : ett1: yup
[2016-12-23 04:18:24] l3f : ett1: start with small risk and get bigger and bigger
[2016-12-23 04:18:28] l3f : the bitmex way
[2016-12-23 04:18:47] Rado : 764 users
[2016-12-23 04:18:50] Rado : cool
[2016-12-23 04:19:04] ett1 : nah do it like the illuminati pyramid
[2016-12-23 04:19:08] ett1 : add smaller and smaller on the way up
[2016-12-23 04:19:18] l3f : ett1: taking a big risk at the start
[2016-12-23 04:19:20] l3f : then get fucked up by a move
[2016-12-23 04:19:21] ett1 : keep you eye open at the top
[2016-12-23 04:19:23] l3f : = gg
[2016-12-23 04:19:24] Rado : newbies will have fun trying out trades in this market
[2016-12-23 04:19:41] l3f : if you aren't all in now
[2016-12-23 04:19:48] l3f : you're doing pretty damn well
[2016-12-23 04:20:29] ett1 : im as all in as i want to be
[2016-12-23 04:20:34] ett1 : but might BTFD with a tight stop below
[2016-12-23 04:20:41] Rado : 50 day ma on daily chart is only $755
[2016-12-23 04:21:02] ett1 : MA not useful in parabolic moves
[2016-12-23 04:21:06] ett1 : to slow to catch up
[2016-12-23 04:21:08] Rado : we are definitely going to have some type of correction soon
[2016-12-23 04:21:18] MrRGnome : I don't know about soon, but sometime.
[2016-12-23 04:21:31] Rado : it is when the price runs away form it big time
[2016-12-23 04:21:39] mariomarco : open teh shawts
[2016-12-23 04:21:42] ett1 : what will we hit first. 1000 or 800
[2016-12-23 04:21:49] Rado : reversal to the mean always happens
[2016-12-23 04:22:00] l3f : time to short guys
[2016-12-23 04:22:01] ett1 : nah
[2016-12-23 04:22:02] Rado : ett1: 1000 of course
[2016-12-23 04:22:03] l3f : this is surely top
[2016-12-23 04:22:14] MrRGnome : I like how at every stop people say "time to short"
[2016-12-23 04:22:24] ett1 : hahah ye
[2016-12-23 04:22:24] Rado : lol
[2016-12-23 04:22:33] Rado : he is being sarcastic
[2016-12-23 04:22:38] l3f : I'm an expert on tops
[2016-12-23 04:22:39] l3f : I know
[2016-12-23 04:22:40] MrRGnome : I know, and I am saying I LOVE it.
[2016-12-23 04:23:15] j8 : the question is, are we euphoric yet
[2016-12-23 04:23:23] MrRGnome : The facetious banter mocking the kinds of people who come out in bubbles is fantastic
[2016-12-23 04:23:35] Rado : j8: not yet
[2016-12-23 04:23:43] ett1 : cool me too. i specialise in longing when we hit tops @l3f
[2016-12-23 04:23:46] Rado : we need a $50 move in 5 min
[2016-12-23 04:23:50] j8 : agree
[2016-12-23 04:23:53] l3f : ett1: when I buy I buy at top
[2016-12-23 04:23:56] l3f : and then I sell at bottom
[2016-12-23 04:24:20] l3f : the classic strategy
[2016-12-23 04:24:22] ett1 : kinda like me. but the bottom is higher than the top ye
[2016-12-23 04:24:28] l3f : perfected by rapidtrades
[2016-12-23 04:24:32] l3f : he taught me everything I know
[2016-12-23 04:24:38] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-12-23 04:24:40] micmix : j8: need 6+ daily volatility for the euphoric zone, it's below 4 still
[2016-12-23 04:24:50] MrRGnome : He is a professional trader and lawyer
[2016-12-23 04:25:02] ett1 : there are many tops, i like to catch the first one
[2016-12-23 04:25:05] l3f : one of the few traders known in china
[2016-12-23 04:25:41] ett1 : top trader by number of hours logged
[2016-12-23 04:27:27] ett1 : MrRGnome: a dangerous combo indeed. thats why he's respected & feared
[2016-12-23 04:28:24] Rado : who is that?
[2016-12-23 04:28:34] ett1 : rapid
[2016-12-23 04:28:37] MrRGnome : We're mocking a guy names rapidtrades
[2016-12-23 04:29:16] ett1 : not mocking, paying tribute
[2016-12-23 04:29:18] Rado : he has a good hearth
[2016-12-23 04:29:18] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-23 04:29:48] ett1 : & instincts
[2016-12-23 04:30:02] shery : l3f: are you saying to short????
[2016-12-23 04:30:17] l3f : shery: of course
[2016-12-23 04:30:22] ett1 : allways short at the tops
[2016-12-23 04:30:23] ett1 : no brainer
[2016-12-23 04:30:37] l3f : that was sarcasm if you didn;t catch it
[2016-12-23 04:30:57] ett1 : look at the chart. cant you see it's topping
[2016-12-23 04:31:04] narnarfromnarnia : time to short back to 900 me thinking
[2016-12-23 04:31:22] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: it could have been worse
[2016-12-23 04:31:29] l3f : you could have shorted from 860
[2016-12-23 04:31:34] shery : l3f: lmfao, can i ask have yu opened a short and how much??
[2016-12-23 04:31:42] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: lol got rekt and woke up to a great price
[2016-12-23 04:31:44] narnarfromnarnia : so sucky
[2016-12-23 04:31:50] narnarfromnarnia : profit when i woke up
[2016-12-23 04:31:54] narnarfromnarnia : but sodl
[2016-12-23 04:31:57] l3f : shery: of course I am long
[2016-12-23 04:32:14] ett1 : im at 530% ROE haha
[2016-12-23 04:32:16] shery : narnarfromnarnia: last night you ended at 868 , but i did holded and filled at 855
[2016-12-23 04:32:44] ett1 : but it rises as my equity depletes from the funding rate. so kind of an overestimat
[2016-12-23 04:32:48] narnarfromnarnia : shery: nice i should have been more patient
[2016-12-23 04:32:56] narnarfromnarnia : i think we'll see a solid drop here short term
[2016-12-23 04:33:13] shery : narnarfromnarnia: No drop , just up till 950
[2016-12-23 04:33:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 40000 @ 906.85
[2016-12-23 04:34:02] ett1 : lol
[2016-12-23 04:34:12] shery : narnarfromnarnia: yeah it will be side ways for small time but it will keep rocketig every hour
[2016-12-23 04:34:23] ett1 : BTFD!
[2016-12-23 04:34:32] l3f : panic sell?
[2016-12-23 04:34:33] shiroe : profit takers before christmas!
[2016-12-23 04:34:35] l3f : lol
[2016-12-23 04:34:52] Apocalyptic : @l3f: you could have shorted below 750 like viptrader and get rekt
[2016-12-23 04:35:01] l3f : Apocalyptic: yeah but I'm not retarded
[2016-12-23 04:35:11] shiroe : damn. 15% btc increase at x50 leverage is x5 capital. huahuahua
[2016-12-23 04:35:18] l3f : apologies to viptrader
[2016-12-23 04:35:19] ett1 : just keep adding margin, it will eventually reverse @Apocalyptic
[2016-12-23 04:35:21] l3f : I still like the guy
[2016-12-23 04:35:44] Apocalyptic : ett1: sounds like a solid plan
[2016-12-23 04:36:55] l3f : fugg
[2016-12-23 04:37:02] l3f : incoming dump
[2016-12-23 04:37:22] ett1 : just profit takers. chill
[2016-12-23 04:37:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: sell 9200 @ 908.47
[2016-12-23 04:37:34] ett1 : still higher highs `& higher lows
[2016-12-23 04:37:36] elmorte : Is there a rebalance for March futures?
[2016-12-23 04:38:03] micmix : elmorte: no
[2016-12-23 04:38:13] micmix : no more rebalances
[2016-12-23 04:38:24] dodic : light volume
[2016-12-23 04:38:33] micmix : you have to realize profit yourself
[2016-12-23 04:38:37] elmorte : Thanks micmix
[2016-12-23 04:38:40] ett1 : do chinese celebrate chirstmas
[2016-12-23 04:39:07] micmix : yes, Chinese Christians do
[2016-12-23 04:39:25] ett1 : is it a big holiday in china
[2016-12-23 04:39:36] ett1 : with lights and shopping sprees
[2016-12-23 04:40:00] elmorte : Why does my margin keep increasing the for the contract that is long/green, but stays the same for the short/red?
[2016-12-23 04:40:53] elmorte : I'm sure there's a formula somewhere in the catacombs of BitMEX docs...
[2016-12-23 04:42:00] j8 : your profit stays on the position, although it still is useable as margin... i think that's how it works anyway
[2016-12-23 04:43:41] ett1 : elmorte: as you position gains profit, that profits can be used as margin to increase your size if you want
[2016-12-23 04:43:59] ett1 : losing positions will just blow up when margin called
[2016-12-23 04:44:09] ett1 : if thats what you mean
[2016-12-23 04:44:26] j8 : you should be able to remove profit without closing, but i don't think you can
[2016-12-23 04:45:54] ett1 : isnt that what reduce margin does
[2016-12-23 04:47:10] j8 : try it
[2016-12-23 04:47:28] micmix : paging all dip buyers! chip coins!
[2016-12-23 04:47:34] micmix : *cheap
[2016-12-23 04:47:41] micmix : stupid autocorrect
[2016-12-23 04:48:44] micmix : or maybe it's smart and it meant casino chips
[2016-12-23 04:48:51] j8 : i have a cross position with 15% margin.. i'm not able to remove it without closing and reopening, then i'd get back to 1% or whatever
[2016-12-23 04:48:57] CaptainDean : micmix: hahaha :D
[2016-12-23 04:49:44] ett1 : sorry can somebody explain cross
[2016-12-23 04:49:45] ett1 : ive never used it
[2016-12-23 04:50:12] laisee : ett1: cross == ALL your funds supporting open contracts
[2016-12-23 04:50:21] l3f : sleger must be laughing his ass off
[2016-12-23 04:50:27] l3f : he's got three more yachts now
[2016-12-23 04:50:37] narnarfromnarnia : will we get 900 again
[2016-12-23 04:50:38] l3f : AND HE ISN'T EVEN FINISHED
[2016-12-23 04:50:47] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: nah, it's going to zero
[2016-12-23 04:50:49] ett1 : laisee: like it auto adjusts the slider
[2016-12-23 04:50:52] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-23 04:51:05] narnarfromnarnia : bfx looks dumpy
[2016-12-23 04:51:07] micmix : ett1: it's automatically adds margin when it gets low
[2016-12-23 04:51:30] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: then buy it up
[2016-12-23 04:51:33] laisee : ett1: key pint is that ALL your funds in account are exposed
[2016-12-23 04:51:40] ett1 : ok. is that what most people like to use?
[2016-12-23 04:51:44] narnarfromnarnia : yeah just waiting for 15m dip
[2016-12-23 04:52:00] micmix : yep, on cross all your funds belong to us ;-)
[2016-12-23 04:52:24] ett1 : laisee: ok got it. so it can be the same as 25x for example, it will just allow the max liq level on its own
[2016-12-23 04:52:29] laisee : ett1: new traders seem to use it, its a good (but hard) way to learn how margin/futures trading works
[2016-12-23 04:52:57] ayy_lmao : jebus be shillin'
[2016-12-23 04:53:05] ayy_lmao : incoming n00bs
[2016-12-23 04:53:23] ett1 : ok. i almost never trade with leverage anyway. but gone nuts with this breakout lol
[2016-12-23 04:53:50] ett1 : i think im better controlling the slider on my own. keeps me consious of whats happening and what my risk is i suppose
[2016-12-23 04:53:52] j8 : cross is great if you have some long and some short positions, because they'll cover eachother's losses (hopefully)
[2016-12-23 04:54:12] ett1 : j8: ah makes sense now
[2016-12-23 04:55:19] KingTuna : It may make sense for 1 more leg up and massive dump Whales expecting people will want to hold fro $1000
[2016-12-23 04:55:22] KingTuna : tricky tricky lol
[2016-12-23 04:55:26] micmix : make sure to use stops with cross or you can wake up to empty balance @ett1
[2016-12-23 04:55:34] KingTuna : psychological barriers can often be the end of traders
[2016-12-23 04:56:11] ett1 : micmix: cool got it. on some levels i use my account balance as my stop anyway
[2016-12-23 04:56:41] ett1 : like ill move 5% to Bitmex and thats all up for risk. like its a trade with a 5% SL
[2016-12-23 04:56:41] micmix : works too if you deposit small amounts
[2016-12-23 04:57:49] micmix : minimizes counterparty risk as well in case exchange goes under
[2016-12-23 04:58:25] ett1 : yes. when i want to go into cash, putting 10% on here with -10x short makes a lot of sense to me
[2016-12-23 04:58:41] ett1 : rather than selling everything and holding USD on okcoin or elsewhere
[2016-12-23 04:58:45] ett1 : and its anon
[2016-12-23 04:59:55] j8 : 3 hours until okc settlement
[2016-12-23 05:00:23] micmix : expecting shenanigans?
[2016-12-23 05:00:28] j8 : always
[2016-12-23 05:00:31] Apocalyptic : funding rate looking good on swap
[2016-12-23 05:00:45] j8 : doesn't always happen but i'm always bracing for it
[2016-12-23 05:00:55] Apocalyptic : people are still massively long
[2016-12-23 05:01:08] ett1 : Apocalyptic: bullish?
[2016-12-23 05:01:14] micmix : yeah, I remember DDOS and 8-10% drop
[2016-12-23 05:01:33] Apocalyptic : ett1: let's just say that I wouldn't open a long right noy
[2016-12-23 05:01:36] Apocalyptic : *now
[2016-12-23 05:01:41] ett1 : j8: affecting all markets or just okcoin
[2016-12-23 05:01:55] j8 : everyone but mostly china
[2016-12-23 05:02:16] narnarfromnarnia : drop
[2016-12-23 05:04:06] Apocalyptic : narnarfromnarnia: drop it like it's hot
[2016-12-23 05:04:26] narnarfromnarnia : anyone else see a drop coming for real?
[2016-12-23 05:04:28] lockhedge : usually some big market makers reduce sizes when okc futures settle, which makes the market more fragile everywhere
[2016-12-23 05:04:35] shery : I guess many here have started shorting but you may not sleep well tonight if you are shorting btc right now,
[2016-12-23 05:05:34] Apocalyptic : shery: swap says otherwise
[2016-12-23 05:06:00] Apocalyptic : the rate is going up so the long/short ratio increased
[2016-12-23 05:06:13] dodic : lol who would sleep short through the night while chinese markets are still open? Crazy people?
[2016-12-23 05:06:54] shery : dodic: one may not be able woke up continously 24 hours. I tried last night but failed
[2016-12-23 05:07:05] dodic : just need more coffee
[2016-12-23 05:07:24] ett1 : get some amphetimines
[2016-12-23 05:07:25] ett1 : even better
[2016-12-23 05:07:37] ett1 : your trade like a boss
[2016-12-23 05:07:42] Apocalyptic : shery: ask rapid for advice
[2016-12-23 05:08:16] ett1 : get a proper edge
[2016-12-23 05:14:20] l3f : for the record I know jack shit about trading
[2016-12-23 05:14:26] l3f : everything I've learnt wolong taught me
[2016-12-23 05:14:47] elmorte : Regarding the my earlier question about increasing margin on a winning contract...it's affecting my liqd price on other contracts, that's why I'm worried about it...
[2016-12-23 05:14:52] l3f : three times a day I lay out my prayer mat and turn towards Singapore
[2016-12-23 05:15:16] laisee : wolong?
[2016-12-23 05:15:20] elmorte : Hahaha...Chinese lor u @l3f
[2016-12-23 05:15:38] elmorte : 1m, can buy passport
[2016-12-23 05:17:40] j8 : elmorte: technically you can get around it by self-trading with another account, although it's frowned upon (breaks the terms of use). that's why they should just let us do it
[2016-12-23 05:18:34] l3f : elmorte: Chinese lor?
[2016-12-23 05:18:44] j8 : and i don't think it actually affects your liq price. it's still useable margin
[2016-12-23 05:19:31] nOgAnOo : Good evening my friends
[2016-12-23 05:20:12] laisee : yuletide felicitations, nOgAnOo
[2016-12-23 05:20:46] Apocalyptic : nOgAnOo: damn, you're everwhere
[2016-12-23 05:21:19] nOgAnOo : My friend convinced me to come here.. I just made over 100% profit in my first hour trading btc
[2016-12-23 05:21:27] Apocalyptic : I remember you spamming religious stuff on IRC two/three years ago
[2016-12-23 05:21:28] imapotato : Hey, my margin long actually worked out.
[2016-12-23 05:21:36] Apocalyptic : how's life man
[2016-12-23 05:21:39] nOgAnOo : Was trading Yen on 1broker for 3 weeks. Made 400% in the last 2 days
[2016-12-23 05:21:43] imapotato : I thought for sure the market would dump on me.
[2016-12-23 05:21:57] nOgAnOo : Life is awesome.. I have almost 1000 carolina reaper plants started for next season
[2016-12-23 05:22:05] Apocalyptic : nOgAnOo: where can I invest ?
[2016-12-23 05:22:09] nOgAnOo : Just released 1500 ladybugs in the basement last night to eat the aphids
[2016-12-23 05:22:18] nOgAnOo : Dude I'm building robotic farming arms..
[2016-12-23 05:22:29] Apocalyptic : sounds awesome
[2016-12-23 05:22:31] nOgAnOo : On ropes.
[2016-12-23 05:22:45] nOgAnOo : Just like those camera systems in stadiums
[2016-12-23 05:23:00] nOgAnOo : Try arresting a robot for growing herb! Ha!
[2016-12-23 05:23:40] nOgAnOo : But yeah I'm hoping to turn this 0.1 BTC into much more
[2016-12-23 05:23:55] zanza : why Carolina Reapers?
[2016-12-23 05:23:58] ett1 : The DAGO (decentralised autonomous grow operation)
[2016-12-23 05:24:24] nOgAnOo : They are the hottest. I will produce pepper spray and oil out of many of them
[2016-12-23 05:24:42] nOgAnOo : plus the seeds are the most expensive.. i can make 1 million dollars of seeds off of 1 acre.. 4800 plants
[2016-12-23 05:25:05] nOgAnOo : I'm gonna try this next year.. and I actually have 400 varieties of peppers
[2016-12-23 05:25:05] elmorte : j8: it's shrinking the liqd price listed in the position for other contracts, probably because my avail balance is shrinking
[2016-12-23 05:25:17] Apocalyptic : nOgAnOo: planning to sell on OpenBazaar ?
[2016-12-23 05:25:27] nOgAnOo : For sure. I love OB
[2016-12-23 05:26:09] nOgAnOo : I'm making the best sodas in the world too.. out of fruit juices, honey and maple syrup
[2016-12-23 05:26:21] zanza : dat .36 funding cominfg
[2016-12-23 05:26:33] elmorte : l3f: I assumed you're from China and Singapore is your promise land. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
[2016-12-23 05:26:52] zanza : do you use hydroponics nOgAnOo ?
[2016-12-23 05:26:59] zanza : i specialize in plant nutrition
[2016-12-23 05:27:12] nOgAnOo : I will set up aeroponics soon.. I have most of the equipment.. in the past I've only used soil
[2016-12-23 05:27:25] nOgAnOo : Aquaponics too..