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[2015-11-02 19:50:18] stf28 : xbt7d?
[2015-11-02 19:50:30] mwalshe99 : stf28: 24h
[2015-11-02 19:50:47] kasman5 : we're going up
[2015-11-02 19:51:32] TschavaTschigger : liquidation incoming xD
[2015-11-02 19:51:50] mwalshe99 : its close
[2015-11-02 19:52:16] hanoosh : Guys, how do i keep my long far from liq price ? so i stay in safe side ?
[2015-11-02 19:52:20] TschavaTschigger : 355 at 24h xbt... really guys?
[2015-11-02 19:52:24] micmix : mwalshe99: I'm sorry but 355 is here already
[2015-11-02 19:52:49] kasman5 : not on fair price
[2015-11-02 19:52:54] mwalshe99 : micmix: fair price
[2015-11-02 19:52:57] kasman5 : its 353.84
[2015-11-02 19:53:03] mwalshe99 : micmix: its pretty much set in stone thoug
[2015-11-02 19:53:25] macios15 : i think bears are gona attack on that 2x top
[2015-11-02 19:53:27] micmix : next index update in 1-2 minutes will be over 355
[2015-11-02 19:53:35] BitMEX_Sam : bullish
[2015-11-02 19:53:50] mwalshe99 : byeee guys
[2015-11-02 19:54:02] BitMEX_Sam : TS is nuts right now
[2015-11-02 19:54:12] mwalshe99 : 355.64
[2015-11-02 19:54:34] TschavaTschigger : this is just insane
[2015-11-02 19:54:39] micmix : yep, I have it here in realtime
[2015-11-02 19:54:55] cekseh : I hope someone is recording whaleclub =)
[2015-11-02 19:54:58] macios15 : i get in on train at correction
[2015-11-02 19:55:01] macios15 : good
[2015-11-02 19:55:21] cekseh : Gonna need to wipe off their pants after this haha
[2015-11-02 19:55:22] BitMEX_Sam : 24H is $7 over spot
[2015-11-02 19:55:24] BitMEX_Sam : insanity
[2015-11-02 19:55:28] Yumi : fomo premium on daily
[2015-11-02 19:56:23] kasman5 : bullstamp
[2015-11-02 19:58:02] nickhnt : oh shit
[2015-11-02 19:58:09] nickhnt : this is insane
[2015-11-02 19:58:32] macios15 : lets start that 2500 rally lol
[2015-11-02 19:58:39] kasman5 : there's nothing for sale
[2015-11-02 19:58:48] nickhnt : 2500 usd rally
[2015-11-02 19:58:48] nickhnt : lol
[2015-11-02 19:59:01] macios15 : no resistance before 400
[2015-11-02 19:59:19] macios15 : 1k btc to 2400cny hahaha
[2015-11-02 20:00:06] j8 : `XBTH16` 183 dollar spread
[2015-11-02 20:00:11] nickhnt : total fomo
[2015-11-02 20:00:29] macios15 : no order book at daily lol
[2015-11-02 20:00:34] Yumi : H16 cleared up
[2015-11-02 20:00:42] BitMEX_Sam : books everywhere are empty
[2015-11-02 20:00:53] nickhnt : i think Im just the one selling in daily xD
[2015-11-02 20:01:08] micmix : I'm selling XBTZ15 below $400, you guys are welcome to buy
[2015-11-02 20:02:39] podizzle3k : so close market is worthless
[2015-11-02 20:02:44] podizzle3k : good to know
[2015-11-02 20:02:50] nickhnt : i have 2 targets right now, 2350 and 2600 cny
[2015-11-02 20:02:59] macios15 : more like 2360
[2015-11-02 20:03:04] macios15 : 2350 broken
[2015-11-02 20:03:08] nickhnt : lol
[2015-11-02 20:03:31] SnackyCoins : DPE kicking in
[2015-11-02 20:03:45] justinlooking : really?
[2015-11-02 20:03:53] macios15 : stamp 360
[2015-11-02 20:04:05] SnackyCoins : yep XBTZ15 has DPE
[2015-11-02 20:04:25] stf28 : everybody out of margin or what?
[2015-11-02 20:04:26] BitMEX_Sam : 24H has a small one but I expect it'll clear up when liquidity comes back
[2015-11-02 20:04:29] nickhnt : so what happens now?
[2015-11-02 20:04:37] nickhnt : 3% of DPE
[2015-11-02 20:04:45] BitMEX_Sam : nickhnt: nothing until settlement
[2015-11-02 20:05:07] hashman : that means 3% off our profits on XBT24HR ?
[2015-11-02 20:05:08] sleger : where do we see it ?
[2015-11-02 20:05:10] hashman : how does it work?
[2015-11-02 20:05:16] macios15 : 2360 broken
[2015-11-02 20:05:16] nickhnt : BitMEX_Sam: if stays that at settlement?
[2015-11-02 20:05:21] BitMEX_Sam : nickhnt: yes
[2015-11-02 20:05:29] BitMEX_Sam : Then it would shave profits
[2015-11-02 20:05:38] nickhnt : by that percent?
[2015-11-02 20:05:41] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2015-11-02 20:05:46] nickhnt : ah ok, thx
[2015-11-02 20:06:04] kasman5 : some seroius fomo
[2015-11-02 20:06:06] nickhnt : macios15: next target 2600
[2015-11-02 20:06:14] stf28 : mm doesnt follow
[2015-11-02 20:06:32] macios15 : nickhnt: 2400 for now
[2015-11-02 20:06:49] macios15 : i dont know were we head glad for that long :DDD
[2015-11-02 20:07:17] BitMEX_Sam : 360 on finex.
[2015-11-02 20:07:19] Yumi : that 11 bot
[2015-11-02 20:07:21] nickhnt : lol look at Stamps book
[2015-11-02 20:07:27] nickhnt : 400 coins to 400
[2015-11-02 20:07:32] macios15 : LOL NOTHING AT STAMP
[2015-11-02 20:07:34] kasman5 : so thin
[2015-11-02 20:07:51] hashman : up to 4.7%
[2015-11-02 20:07:56] hashman : 5
[2015-11-02 20:08:13] macios15 : 1k buy and we are close to 400$
[2015-11-02 20:08:29] hashman : and now 0%
[2015-11-02 20:08:35] BitMEX_Sam : FYI got you guys some presents - entry price +/- is back and we have a new expiry countdown on the top right
[2015-11-02 20:09:16] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: thanks, very nice!
[2015-11-02 20:09:27] BitMEX_Sam : DPE on 24H is back to 0
[2015-11-02 20:09:55] macios15 : this is just insane
[2015-11-02 20:10:24] BitMEX_Sam : market needs this short breather
[2015-11-02 20:10:28] micmix : only 12k contracts below $400 on XBTZ15, come on guys, you can do it!
[2015-11-02 20:11:08] micmix : now only 3k left :-)
[2015-11-02 20:11:37] BitMEX_Sam : here comes a dip
[2015-11-02 20:12:23] kasman5 : the volatility
[2015-11-02 20:12:48] macios15 : its not dip, 340$ at stamp was 2h ago lol
[2015-11-02 20:13:11] BitMEX_Sam : 24H below mark now
[2015-11-02 20:13:18] BitMEX_Sam : 20 min ago it was nearly 1% above mark
[2015-11-02 20:13:39] zanza : this doesn't make any sense, but doesn't anyone think this is related to government auction ?
[2015-11-02 20:14:15] nickhnt : zanza: it makes sense if you see the charts
[2015-11-02 20:14:16] cekseh : People will try to rationalize the moves however they can
[2015-11-02 20:14:17] cekseh : Always do
[2015-11-02 20:14:41] micmix : I don't believe in conspiracy theories but we had big pumps before almost all auctions, it's like someone wants more money for those bitcoins :-)
[2015-11-02 20:15:06] zanza : but how would the government even do that?
[2015-11-02 20:15:11] zanza : lol
[2015-11-02 20:15:53] macios15 : zanza: no, look at this point, we got that bear market break at january, look like 317$ top was only pump anouncment
[2015-11-02 20:16:42] micmix : it's like a self-fulfilling prophecy: traders expect a pump, technicals are favorable, so we have a pump.
[2015-11-02 20:16:45] macios15 : i think china pump again i 1h gona pass that 2400
[2015-11-02 20:16:57] dynamike23 : buy the dip
[2015-11-02 20:17:20] nickhnt : we've been through a 2 years bear market with the ecosystem evolving so much, now the market is discovering the price
[2015-11-02 20:17:30] Swedishnut : i think it has begun to be the bull market :) but there are a handful of cave sive bears out there
[2015-11-02 20:17:39] wurstgelee : wtf
[2015-11-02 20:17:42] macios15 : we got that 1mln for btc dreams for years, finaly then it can get to that last top everyone is suprised
[2015-11-02 20:17:43] kasman5 : I'm out for now, last weeks losses recouped in terms of pound sterling.
[2015-11-02 20:17:44] wurstgelee : btc youre drunk
[2015-11-02 20:17:48] AudibleScience : this is so crazy!
[2015-11-02 20:17:56] wurstgelee : this happens when you dont pay attention for an hour :(
[2015-11-02 20:18:26] dynamike23 : i went to bed once and litecoin dropped from $8 to $4
[2015-11-02 20:18:27] nickhnt : think about it, there is 1 billion + of chineses, if they spend 1000 cny on bitcoin how much higher we can get?
[2015-11-02 20:19:07] podizzle3k : this site so fd
[2015-11-02 20:19:56] podizzle3k : why don't orders execute at best price
[2015-11-02 20:20:04] nickhnt : i advise not to buy a 24hr contract right now...
[2015-11-02 20:20:06] cekseh : Ok nick, think about this, if every nation made bitcoin it's reserve currency how much higher can we get?
[2015-11-02 20:20:10] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-02 20:20:19] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: youre too slow. they do
[2015-11-02 20:20:39] nickhnt : cekseh: that would be huge xD
[2015-11-02 20:20:48] podizzle3k : bs
[2015-11-02 20:21:02] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: still on phone?
[2015-11-02 20:21:20] podizzle3k : yes
[2015-11-02 20:21:36] podizzle3k : I have filed order but nothing active position
[2015-11-02 20:21:42] podizzle3k : explain that
[2015-11-02 20:21:59] podizzle3k : just no data
[2015-11-02 20:22:11] macios15 : think of sth more realistic, if some hackers got some secret goverment data and they want ransom form gov in bitcoin
[2015-11-02 20:22:22] macios15 : what goverment can other do than buy
[2015-11-02 20:23:00] TschavaTschigger : i wonder why the xbtz15 price is still so low... pretty clear that it will get over 400 this year
[2015-11-02 20:23:04] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: never happened to me. phone browser fked maybe?
[2015-11-02 20:23:08] TschavaTschigger : if i had money i would buy the shit out of that
[2015-11-02 20:23:47] dynamike23 : TschavaTschigger: seems odd to me too
[2015-11-02 20:24:02] podizzle3k : 5 straight close market orders in a row fail
[2015-11-02 20:24:11] podizzle3k : everything I try to do fails
[2015-11-02 20:24:30] dynamike23 : i would manually close those positions
[2015-11-02 20:24:35] TschavaTschigger : price increased like 30 bucks in one day and december futures still have a price 40 bucks away
[2015-11-02 20:24:42] TschavaTschigger : lol
[2015-11-02 20:24:50] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: close manually? does that work
[2015-11-02 20:25:02] BitMEX_Sam : podizzle3k: You don't have any open positions, you longed with 100x isolated margin and got liquidated by the dip 10min ago
[2015-11-02 20:25:13] micmix : TschavaTschigger: yeah, I'm selling XBTZ15 below $400
[2015-11-02 20:25:24] TschavaTschigger : why?
[2015-11-02 20:25:31] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2015-11-02 20:25:46] micmix : TschavaTschigger: taking profit, everyone welcome to buy
[2015-11-02 20:26:11] TschavaTschigger : all my coins are margined, would buy the shit out of this
[2015-11-02 20:26:20] TschavaTschigger : its ridiculously cheap
[2015-11-02 20:26:27] nickhnt : what happened to the month contract?
[2015-11-02 20:26:28] wurstgelee : no, its not ;)
[2015-11-02 20:26:39] kasman5 : taking profit where @micmix
[2015-11-02 20:26:43] wurstgelee : @ridiculously cheap that is
[2015-11-02 20:26:45] macios15 : its not even correcting its just geting flat lol
[2015-11-02 20:26:49] zanza : the XBTH16 and XBTZ15 are similarly priced considering fair basis
[2015-11-02 20:26:50] wurstgelee : hehe
[2015-11-02 20:27:10] zanza : 6k sell on stamp
[2015-11-02 20:27:10] nickhnt : the fomo
[2015-11-02 20:27:11] micmix : kasman5: XBTZ15 but it's too late, only 1k left
[2015-11-02 20:27:14] nickhnt : lol
[2015-11-02 20:27:44] j8 : 5k up now
[2015-11-02 20:27:47] kasman5 : fill my 1k bid at 381 haha
[2015-11-02 20:28:02] macios15 : china up again
[2015-11-02 20:28:12] nickhnt : the next 4 hours we could get to 2600
[2015-11-02 20:28:18] podizzle3k : thx Sam that should be a tab on this page
[2015-11-02 20:28:39] podizzle3k : next to order history
[2015-11-02 20:28:49] macios15 : nickhnt: even 450$ and dump from that
[2015-11-02 20:28:57] BitMEX_Sam : podizzle3k: I agree with that
[2015-11-02 20:30:17] nickhnt : my orders are there feel free to buy them :) gonna go guys, later.
[2015-11-02 20:31:01] macios15 : china 3k before and of week
[2015-11-02 20:31:06] macios15 : end*
[2015-11-02 20:32:16] micmix : kasman5: increase your bid $15 and we will see :-)
[2015-11-02 20:33:15] kasman5 : micmix: I'll wait. what did you buy in at?
[2015-11-02 20:33:45] micmix : @kasman5 below $350
[2015-11-02 20:34:14] kasman5 : some healthy profit that
[2015-11-02 20:35:13] micmix : kasman5: I think I started buying from $314
[2015-11-02 20:35:45] kasman5 : thats crazy
[2015-11-02 20:35:49] macios15 : bears attacked at huobi, dumped 5 cny lol
[2015-11-02 20:37:55] micmix : kasman5: I'm never leveraged more than 6-7x so I can afford buying on the way down
[2015-11-02 20:39:47] kasman5 : micmix: seems like the a good strategy. I blew my account last week, made it all back this last few hour. Less leverage is the way forward haha
[2015-11-02 20:39:52] macios15 : china didnt even woke up jet lol
[2015-11-02 20:40:05] macios15 : if they woke up at 2400 they gona buy like crazy
[2015-11-02 20:41:20] micmix : kasman5: yeah, more trading, less gambling :-)
[2015-11-02 20:42:00] kasman5 : exactly
[2015-11-02 20:45:34] wurstgelee : down down down she goes.... ;)
[2015-11-02 20:45:43] macios15 : wurstgelee: where
[2015-11-02 20:46:12] wurstgelee : sub 350
[2015-11-02 20:46:12] Yumi : still big premium on daily
[2015-11-02 20:46:13] macios15 : wurstgelee: u mean to that support line
[2015-11-02 20:46:20] wurstgelee : ofc ;)
[2015-11-02 20:46:43] macios15 : 349 and we still good
[2015-11-02 20:50:55] wurstgelee : k, no sub 350 for now
[2015-11-02 20:51:00] wurstgelee : unless huge dump
[2015-11-02 20:55:08] macios15 : im ready for 2400, lets go
[2015-11-02 21:01:16] wurstgelee : finex decided it wants to go up, fuck china ;)
[2015-11-02 21:03:17] macios15 : wurstgelee:china sleeps, when its wake up pump gona be huge
[2015-11-02 21:03:51] wurstgelee : i hope so. i was sleep deprived today @ work, tomorrow i will be wasted...
[2015-11-02 21:04:22] wurstgelee : it follows now tho
[2015-11-02 21:06:26] SnackyCoins : looks like the DPE has gone back down to zero
[2015-11-02 21:06:41] SnackyCoins : was that open liquidations getting eaten, then?
[2015-11-02 21:07:33] j8 : yes, DPE will only stick if there's no retrace before settlement/rebalance
[2015-11-02 21:10:58] BitMEX_Sam : We have yet to settle with a loss on 7D or 24H - so far so good
[2015-11-02 21:12:16] SnackyCoins : any plans to show open/filled liquidations ?
[2015-11-02 21:12:26] SnackyCoins : on the books if possible :)
[2015-11-02 21:12:32] BitMEX_Sam : Yep, in the works, just have had features with higher priority in the meantime
[2015-11-02 21:12:52] SnackyCoins : of course :) you guys roll out stuff almost every day
[2015-11-02 21:13:02] BitMEX_Sam : We'll have to do a `liquidations` stream out of the websocket, not hard to do, just hard to schedule with everything else we're working on
[2015-11-02 21:15:04] BitMEX_Sam : Got yubikey / fido u2f authentication coming soon as an alternative to Google Auth. And we're full steam ahead on translating the UI
[2015-11-02 21:15:36] SnackyCoins : cool, that should attract some extra liquidity
[2015-11-02 21:15:59] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah. As a nice side effect it's actually going to speed up the UI pretty significantly.
[2015-11-02 21:16:05] Fish : BitMEX_Sam: d you need some freelancer translators ? what langs u looking for
[2015-11-02 21:16:14] BitMEX_Sam : And our friends in Europe will be happy to see consistent `.` and `,` usage.
[2015-11-02 21:16:35] BitMEX_Sam : Fish: Not right yet - going to start with Chinese, but will likely expand into Spanish, German, Polish
[2015-11-02 21:17:11] Fish : BitMEX_Sam: Great, if you looking into arabic please let me know.
[2015-11-02 21:17:25] BitMEX_Sam : Great, I'll keep that in mind, that's not an easy translation to do.
[2015-11-02 21:18:00] Fish : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks, it is easy for native arab ;)
[2015-11-02 21:22:04] wurstgelee : those order and position tables need to be sortable...please :)
[2015-11-02 21:22:19] wurstgelee : should be an easy tweak =)
[2015-11-02 21:23:56] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: stop limit orders are really broken, i haven't been able to set one this whole rally because of this liquidation message.
[2015-11-02 21:24:20] BitMEX_Sam : j8: Yes, we have a fix in testnet for this, we're doing tests on it to ensure it is stable so we can promote it ASAP.
[2015-11-02 21:24:43] j8 : i see.
[2015-11-02 21:24:53] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Actually due to how we handle some user-friendly translations it is more difficult than it should be. It is coming though as part of our translation push.
[2015-11-02 21:26:10] Yumi : that means you will also have non-english support?
[2015-11-02 21:27:14] BitMEX_Sam : Yumi: Yep.
[2015-11-02 21:30:42] macios15 : china wakes up
[2015-11-02 21:30:55] BitMEX_Sam : Here it comes
[2015-11-02 21:31:08] macios15 : ginex 365 ftw
[2015-11-02 21:31:46] BitMEX_Sam : Big wick to 372 on finex
[2015-11-02 21:31:54] sleger : 372
[2015-11-02 21:33:03] kasman5 : do we break 400 tonight ahha
[2015-11-02 21:33:37] BitMEX_Sam : Feels like it
[2015-11-02 21:34:24] SnackyCoins : DPE back up lol
[2015-11-02 21:34:33] BitMEX_Sam : It'll be down again
[2015-11-02 21:34:41] macios15 : 300% lol
[2015-11-02 21:34:44] SnackyCoins : god this is incredible
[2015-11-02 21:35:14] kasman5 : I managed to make some nice buys on the weekly here
[2015-11-02 21:37:02] wurstgelee : WWWWWW TTTT FFFFF
[2015-11-02 21:38:04] BitMEX_Sam : Back down to 0% DPE
[2015-11-02 21:41:57] MarketQ : theres something wrong with the close limit button it automatically says I did a market order whn I simply placed a close limit this is really bad
[2015-11-02 21:42:41] BitMEX_Sam : Let me check it
[2015-11-02 21:42:42] nostdal.org : YES, i've been noticing the same thing .. wtf is going on .. i'm marking selling and buying all over the place x)
[2015-11-02 21:42:50] nostdal.org : market*
[2015-11-02 21:44:07] kasman5 : 2400cny crazy
[2015-11-02 21:44:23] nostdal.org : kasman5: 2450 CNY on ok.cn
[2015-11-02 21:44:49] kasman5 : yh it wicked up there
[2015-11-02 21:56:39] kasman5 : XBT7D is screaming buy right now
[2015-11-02 21:57:36] sleger : ok i wil then
[2015-11-02 21:57:45] BitMEX_Sam : Calm before the storm imo
[2015-11-02 21:58:37] gielbier : ok i just registered, but i like gui
[2015-11-02 21:59:03] kasman5 : We had a huge volume up move, now price is rising on low volume tells me there's a shortage of sellers. Still bullish for now
[2015-11-02 21:59:16] wurstgelee : gielbier: gday =)
[2015-11-02 21:59:57] gielbier : mr wurst :) should i have used you are ref or something?
[2015-11-02 22:00:15] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: so about that recruiting bonus for bringing new people..... ;)
[2015-11-02 22:00:27] wurstgelee : gielbier: dunno?
[2015-11-02 22:00:31] wurstgelee : is there a ref system?
[2015-11-02 22:00:38] kasman5 : yh
[2015-11-02 22:00:43] gielbier : ref me to wurst :)
[2015-11-02 22:00:48] wurstgelee : :D
[2015-11-02 22:00:55] gielbier : time to load up
[2015-11-02 22:01:07] Yumi : https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliates
[2015-11-02 22:01:31] wurstgelee : ah fuck. there is =)
[2015-11-02 22:04:53] gielbier : Yumi: you seem like a mod/admin, any way i can refer wurstgelee as referel,
[2015-11-02 22:04:54] abc123 : what is a good site to get real time BTC news/info ?
[2015-11-02 22:05:13] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: @gielbier is one
[2015-11-02 22:05:16] BitMEX_Sam : gielbier: I can add him
[2015-11-02 22:05:25] wurstgelee : oh, thanks =)
[2015-11-02 22:05:51] gielbier : BitMEX_Sam: tnx because well he referred me , without refferal :)
[2015-11-02 22:06:11] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah that's not a problem. Just a sec
[2015-11-02 22:06:11] Yumi : Im not admin, Im just happy to help
[2015-11-02 22:06:37] gielbier : i'm new, donno the colours yet
[2015-11-02 22:06:54] wurstgelee : those guys with "BitMEX" in the nick
[2015-11-02 22:06:59] gielbier : also, really coulorblind ppl don't like this :P
[2015-11-02 22:07:19] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: You should see the referral added to your count
[2015-11-02 22:07:24] xinxi : Sam, I cannot deposit.
[2015-11-02 22:07:32] wurstgelee : sec
[2015-11-02 22:08:04] gielbier : BitMEX_Sam: ty
[2015-11-02 22:08:34] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: yes, it works! thanks a lot
[2015-11-02 22:12:23] podizzle3k : how do i open a isolated position that doesnt get liquidated within seconds. is there a way to add margin before it opens?
[2015-11-02 22:12:31] podizzle3k : because if i try to add margin after it opens its too late
[2015-11-02 22:12:34] podizzle3k : annnnnnnnnnnd its gone
[2015-11-02 22:12:45] BitMEX_Sam : podizzle3k: When Mark is close to last it's just fine, otherwise just don't open isolated and isolate after opening
[2015-11-02 22:12:57] podizzle3k : hmm
[2015-11-02 22:13:02] BitMEX_Sam : If you isolate after opening, the position will be refilled with the necessary margin
[2015-11-02 22:13:05] wurstgelee : open it as cross, tick the isolated button then
[2015-11-02 22:13:05] podizzle3k : its just fine hasnt been working out
[2015-11-02 22:13:07] wurstgelee : then add margin
[2015-11-02 22:13:13] podizzle3k : thanks wurst
[2015-11-02 22:13:24] gielbier : podizzle3k: sup pod
[2015-11-02 22:14:01] Swedishnut : wowzer this crazy day is going to create even more news :P
[2015-11-02 22:14:03] gielbier : wurst pulled me in
[2015-11-02 22:14:03] podizzle3k : i didnt know what that isolate check meant
[2015-11-02 22:15:09] gielbier : ow wow , eth aswell :)
[2015-11-02 22:16:05] wurstgelee : gielbier: yes :D
[2015-11-02 22:16:21] gielbier : :D
[2015-11-02 22:16:59] macios15 : china take off again
[2015-11-02 22:17:19] wurstgelee : excellent
[2015-11-02 22:17:21] wurstgelee : :D
[2015-11-02 22:17:30] podizzle3k : dont troll me fool
[2015-11-02 22:17:50] podizzle3k : so my options are 100x or whatever leverage i would have with cross
[2015-11-02 22:18:07] macios15 : wait 10-20 min lol
[2015-11-02 22:18:10] sleger : you trade options ?
[2015-11-02 22:18:11] Yumi : you can add margin to isolated position
[2015-11-02 22:18:11] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: or 100x
[2015-11-02 22:18:20] wurstgelee : and add margin amount to isolated order
[2015-11-02 22:18:24] podizzle3k : yumi can you explain how plz
[2015-11-02 22:18:35] wurstgelee : *position ofc
[2015-11-02 22:18:53] Yumi : in Open Postion in Margin column
[2015-11-02 22:18:59] Yumi : blue bitcoin sign
[2015-11-02 22:19:49] gielbier : slow bitcoin blocks...sigh
[2015-11-02 22:20:00] podizzle3k : Yumi: thx breh
[2015-11-02 22:20:33] podizzle3k : this siite so dangerous one wrong click and its gone
[2015-11-02 22:21:01] sleger : MM bot is half dead ...
[2015-11-02 22:21:26] wurstgelee : scared maybe
[2015-11-02 22:21:49] Yumi : its always good idea to try out stuff with like 1 contract orders there is also test version of website where you can test stuff
[2015-11-02 22:22:24] lockhedge : my 10$ bot is still there quoting 20 contracts, no matter what happens :)
[2015-11-02 22:23:17] podizzle3k : yumi thats what im doing just 4000 contract tests so i dont lose any $
[2015-11-02 22:23:25] nostdal.org : does the limit order buttons still execute as market orders?
[2015-11-02 22:23:54] podizzle3k : nostdal.org: those buttons have been a nightmare for me i wouldnt trust it
[2015-11-02 22:24:04] podizzle3k : just manual only is what im sticking with
[2015-11-02 22:24:15] nostdal.org : yeah, but it changed just now .. few hours ago or something .. something is wrong
[2015-11-02 22:24:22] macios15 : podizzle3k: told u
[2015-11-02 22:25:11] Yumi : nostdal.org: can you explain whats wrong?
[2015-11-02 22:26:05] nostdal.org : well, clicking the big green or red limit order buttons will trigger market orders for some reason
[2015-11-02 22:26:32] podizzle3k : macios15: ok whats next
[2015-11-02 22:26:37] nostdal.org : my order history has a couple of market orders in it .. even though i never ever use market orders
[2015-11-02 22:27:02] macios15 : podizzle3k: first resistance at 2650 lol
[2015-11-02 22:27:04] nostdal.org : i was thinking maybe i clicked wrong buttons or some shit ... or maybe i was drunk or something
[2015-11-02 22:28:46] nostdal.org : but it happens over and over again last few hours
[2015-11-02 22:29:20] nostdal.org : and i NEVER use "close market" here lately because it is super risky with MM suddenly pulling all support / resistance
[2015-11-02 22:30:13] BitMEX_Sam : nostdal.org: Please check your email
[2015-11-02 22:30:50] Swedishnut : arbitrage everywhere
[2015-11-02 22:31:20] nostdal.org : bitmex_sam; allright, cool, its fixed then i guess
[2015-11-02 22:34:16] nostdal.org : now clicking "close limit" will instantly cancel itself
[2015-11-02 22:34:18] nostdal.org : weird
[2015-11-02 22:34:28] nostdal.org : the order is created, then instacancelled
[2015-11-02 22:36:05] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, that's intentional.
[2015-11-02 22:36:14] BitMEX_Sam : We're evaluating - but we believe close limits should be IOC
[2015-11-02 22:36:23] nostdal.org : what's IOC?
[2015-11-02 22:36:32] Yumi : use limit order if you want it to stay in orderbook
[2015-11-02 22:36:33] BitMEX_Sam : ImmediateOrCancel - as in, if it doesn't execute, it gets killed.
[2015-11-02 22:36:58] nostdal.org : that sucks
[2015-11-02 22:36:59] BitMEX_Sam : It's like a Market order with safety.
[2015-11-02 22:37:11] nostdal.org : how do i get it to stay in the book then?
[2015-11-02 22:37:14] BitMEX_Sam : No - because closing is very simple to do otherwise, just click the "Your Position" text
[2015-11-02 22:37:17] BitMEX_Sam : Then submit a simple limit order.
[2015-11-02 22:37:32] BitMEX_Sam : AKA if you're long 1000, just submit a sell for 1000 where you want it.
[2015-11-02 22:37:46] nostdal.org : ok
[2015-11-02 22:38:59] gielbier : BitMEX_Sam: are you guys going to do youtube tuts or something, because it's a bit overwelming
[2015-11-02 22:40:26] nostdal.org : perhaps they should make sure their UI is stable before making a vid
[2015-11-02 22:40:53] TschavaTschigger : this "1000-just-one-cent-below-you" bot sucks so hard
[2015-11-02 22:41:02] TschavaTschigger : on xbtz15
[2015-11-02 22:41:26] wurstgelee : gielbier: use basic dashboard.
[2015-11-02 22:41:30] TschavaTschigger : coded in visual basic.net i suppose
[2015-11-02 22:41:30] wurstgelee : at first at least
[2015-11-02 22:43:29] wurstgelee : ladies and gentlemen, fasten your seatbelts
[2015-11-02 22:44:16] sleger : cause the retrace will be strong ?
[2015-11-02 22:44:45] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-02 22:45:06] macios15 : till 2600 no retrece lol
[2015-11-02 22:45:18] kasman5 : I'm sitting on the sidelines for now
[2015-11-02 22:45:19] macios15 : but go ahead short
[2015-11-02 22:45:34] Yumi : premium on daily is insane
[2015-11-02 22:45:37] wurstgelee : no sidelines. moon or death. :p
[2015-11-02 22:51:39] Swedishnut : its monday news will just start to really hit home as the week progresses. Crypto is the future of value transfer
[2015-11-02 22:52:35] wurstgelee : im really looking forward to that auction tbh
[2015-11-02 22:52:45] wurstgelee : wonder what price they will get
[2015-11-02 22:54:08] FoCheezyBreezy : Why do my orders keep getting canceled today? Order had timeInForce of ImmediateOrCancel. What does that mean?
[2015-11-02 22:54:22] BitMEX_Sam : FoCheezyBreezy: Means that if it doesn't hit the market, it cancels immediately
[2015-11-02 22:54:52] FoCheezyBreezy : Why is it doing that to me though? I can usually just place limit orders in the book anywhere I want
[2015-11-02 22:54:53] BitMEX_Sam : This is a new default for Close Limit orders distinguishing them from simple Limit orders. If you want to keep your close order open, just create a simple Limit order
[2015-11-02 22:55:18] BitMEX_Sam : FoCheezyBreezy: You're getting that issue on simple limit orders?
[2015-11-02 22:55:20] podizzle3k : whoever has a bot here is absolutely cleaning up
[2015-11-02 22:55:45] podizzle3k : how do you do a simple limit order
[2015-11-02 22:55:47] jung1 : 1k in december
[2015-11-02 22:55:58] podizzle3k : close limit?
[2015-11-02 22:56:05] FoCheezyBreezy : I have a short order open and was trying to place a bid order at a lower price to close it out when the price hits that range
[2015-11-02 22:56:16] FoCheezyBreezy : But it wont let me place the bid order
[2015-11-02 22:56:37] FoCheezyBreezy : Sorry. meant to say I have a short position open
[2015-11-02 22:57:00] podizzle3k : why do i have no liquidation price just -.--
[2015-11-02 22:57:06] macios15 : FoCheezyBreezy: rip
[2015-11-02 22:57:22] FoCheezyBreezy : It's in profit
[2015-11-02 22:58:55] podizzle3k : jung1 only 1k? fuck dat im shorting
[2015-11-02 22:59:03] podizzle3k : pfft hahahah
[2015-11-02 22:59:35] wurstgelee : haha
[2015-11-02 23:00:29] Yumi : podizzle3k: maybe your leverage is so small you will never be liquidated
[2015-11-02 23:00:50] BitMEX_Sam : That's exactly it
[2015-11-02 23:00:54] podizzle3k : yumi my leverage is massive ok dont assume
[2015-11-02 23:01:04] Yumi : I said maybe, just a guess
[2015-11-02 23:01:06] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: 3,4%?
[2015-11-02 23:01:10] wurstgelee : 1%?
[2015-11-02 23:01:10] podizzle3k : ok its not long but its thin
[2015-11-02 23:01:13] wurstgelee : :D
[2015-11-02 23:01:17] podizzle3k : wait nevermind we're talking about something different
[2015-11-02 23:01:42] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: youre typing fast on your phone - back to pc?
[2015-11-02 23:01:50] podizzle3k : indeed
[2015-11-02 23:01:57] wurstgelee : :D
[2015-11-02 23:02:24] wurstgelee : up we go
[2015-11-02 23:03:52] gielbier : need more up :)
[2015-11-02 23:04:09] jung1 : what is your prediction about price? still up or any correction?
[2015-11-02 23:04:30] jung1 : 2500-2600 easy tommorow
[2015-11-02 23:05:23] laisee : up untill China cus off the exchanges (again) ...
[2015-11-02 23:05:38] laisee : ^cus^cuts
[2015-11-02 23:05:40] wurstgelee : laisee: finex started is this time
[2015-11-02 23:05:45] wurstgelee : *it
[2015-11-02 23:06:34] wurstgelee : damn, i might not have stacked my sells high enough
[2015-11-02 23:07:03] laisee : oh - wonder when their back end will crash (again)
[2015-11-02 23:09:07] laisee : happens whenever BFX be slinging mad volumes ...
[2015-11-02 23:12:55] wurstgelee : if we keep this pace, we will have $400 very soon
[2015-11-02 23:13:13] gielbier : after 400 500 is easy
[2015-11-02 23:13:42] wurstgelee : i remember crossing 300 as if was yesterday
[2015-11-02 23:13:50] gielbier : indeed
[2015-11-02 23:15:36] Swedishnut : I think this is creatibg critical eye ball fuel
[2015-11-02 23:20:09] kasman5 : a nice retrace now would be nice
[2015-11-02 23:20:27] macios15 : kasman5: yes like 2425 would be great
[2015-11-02 23:20:55] kasman5 : macios15: okcoin
[2015-11-02 23:22:39] macios15 : nah, some pussy farts
[2015-11-02 23:23:24] Swedishnut : 3rd leap will be highest tonight?
[2015-11-02 23:23:40] macios15 : some shorts need to fuel up this rocket
[2015-11-02 23:24:16] wurstgelee : time to load longs ;)
[2015-11-02 23:24:24] macios15 : wurstgelee: yes
[2015-11-02 23:25:31] wurstgelee : sell more please :p
[2015-11-02 23:25:48] justinlooking : cheapies
[2015-11-02 23:27:52] macios15 : some shorts need to fuel up this rocket its obvious
[2015-11-02 23:28:10] wurstgelee : and up we go again ;)
[2015-11-02 23:28:18] justinlooking : bvol fascinates me
[2015-11-02 23:34:38] wurstgelee : haha, nooone wants to sell @ xbt24h
[2015-11-02 23:34:47] wurstgelee : *-o
[2015-11-02 23:34:56] j8 : lots of people want to, thing is they alre
[2015-11-02 23:35:06] macios15 : wurstgelee: i want to 420
[2015-11-02 23:35:09] j8 : **already did
[2015-11-02 23:35:38] wurstgelee : i did too earlier tb, but bought quite a nice bunch @ 368ish on last drop
[2015-11-02 23:37:27] dontell15 : what an amazing day
[2015-11-02 23:37:31] wurstgelee : yes
[2015-11-02 23:37:46] wurstgelee : looking forward to serious sleep deprivation tomorrow @ work
[2015-11-02 23:37:48] ohmannomma : how can i put a stop loss on a position?
[2015-11-02 23:38:10] wurstgelee : dunno, never worked with stop losses here
[2015-11-02 23:38:13] wurstgelee : margin call is my stoploss
[2015-11-02 23:38:22] wurstgelee : with isolated margin ofc
[2015-11-02 23:38:42] jung1 : ohmannomma: go on order control, stop limi
[2015-11-02 23:38:44] j8 : wurstgelee: you lose way more that way
[2015-11-02 23:38:47] dontell15 : who needs work when BTC is holding strong +350
[2015-11-02 23:39:01] wurstgelee : j8: probably
[2015-11-02 23:39:06] j8 : definitely.
[2015-11-02 23:39:16] wurstgelee : but too tight stop losses would throw me out of the game too often
[2015-11-02 23:39:29] wurstgelee : isolated margin is kind of a stop loss
[2015-11-02 23:39:33] jung1 : +1
[2015-11-02 23:39:51] j8 : nope, you lose your maintenance margin. 100% loss after 0.5% against you
[2015-11-02 23:40:09] j8 : versus 50% gain for 0.5% in your favour
[2015-11-02 23:40:09] wurstgelee : i add margin manually
[2015-11-02 23:40:13] wurstgelee : to positions
[2015-11-02 23:40:21] wurstgelee : so it needs more than .5%
[2015-11-02 23:40:35] j8 : basically there's a penalty for being liquidated.
[2015-11-02 23:40:47] wurstgelee : yes, that might be
[2015-11-02 23:40:51] j8 : if you use a little more margin and set a stop, your losses will be considerably less
[2015-11-02 23:41:10] wurstgelee : i might consider doing that in quieter times, thanks
[2015-11-02 23:41:33] wurstgelee : quieter....that is a word. i just invented it
[2015-11-02 23:41:58] j8 : yeah, i feel a lot of people haven't really looked at the numbers. it's a pretty big penalty
[2015-11-02 23:42:10] Yumi : the thing is on daily, if you are short your liq price might be 350 and market might be at 353 already
[2015-11-02 23:42:43] Yumi : it moves far from fair price, both ways
[2015-11-02 23:44:45] j8 : i suppose you might get a bad price with your stop, whereas the liquidation is guaranteed. could be in your favour in some situations
[2015-11-02 23:45:41] wurstgelee : what a nice rollercoaster, i love u btc theme park <3
[2015-11-02 23:45:43] Yumi : with high leverage there isnt much space to work with
[2015-11-02 23:45:55] wurstgelee : &lt;3
[2015-11-02 23:46:09] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, we recommend opening positions with cross margin and adjusting isolated margin shortly thereafter
[2015-11-02 23:46:50] wurstgelee : or openeing 1 contract isolated positions , adjust isolated margin, then add contracts
[2015-11-02 23:46:53] wurstgelee : also works ;)
[2015-11-02 23:48:30] ohmannomma : but has the closure for margin any additional cost?
[2015-11-02 23:48:40] Yumi : today market was so far away from fair price that at one point I couldnt open position because I had isolated margin on, so I had to sell 1 contract, uncheck margin and then buy
[2015-11-02 23:48:55] BitMEX_Sam : ohmannomma: There's no additional cost, you can isolate and unisolate margin at will
[2015-11-02 23:49:16] BitMEX_Sam : Yumi: Soon we'll have an adjustable isolated margin preference before opening the order
[2015-11-02 23:49:18] xinxi : Sam, what's the contract size?
[2015-11-02 23:49:20] ohmannomma : ok, does that equate a stop loss?
[2015-11-02 23:49:20] BitMEX_Sam : `50x`, `25x` ,etc
[2015-11-02 23:49:24] xinxi : 1 mBTC?
[2015-11-02 23:49:30] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: +1 +1 +1
[2015-11-02 23:49:32] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-02 23:49:34] podizzle3k : so why is my liquidation price fluctuating
[2015-11-02 23:49:35] BitMEX_Sam : ohmannomma: Not really, see https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin
[2015-11-02 23:49:42] BitMEX_Sam : xinxi: They're 1000 satoshis per $1 USD
[2015-11-02 23:49:43] BitMEX_Sam : Quantos
[2015-11-02 23:49:54] BitMEX_Sam : So ~ 0.0037 BTC
[2015-11-02 23:50:22] xinxi : If I want to hedge the risk of 30 BTC, how many contracts shall I buy?
[2015-11-02 23:50:44] ohmannomma : set buy stop applies to + positions ?
[2015-11-02 23:51:10] ohmannomma : or the other way round?
[2015-11-02 23:51:23] wurstgelee : xinxi: 1000 contracts, 3,71 btc
[2015-11-02 23:52:03] podizzle3k : is it me or does it not make sense why liquidation price is moving around if im not placing orders or adding/removing margin
[2015-11-02 23:52:07] wurstgelee : xinxi: see order value field in order controls
[2015-11-02 23:52:08] xinxi : wurstgelee: I should buy 1000 contracts?
[2015-11-02 23:52:25] podizzle3k : xinxi if you want to hedge your risk stop askgng trollbox what to do
[2015-11-02 23:52:54] wurstgelee : xinxi: you want to buy contracts worth 30 btc of order value´, XBT24h, right?
[2015-11-02 23:53:04] xinxi : 25 Dec
[2015-11-02 23:53:37] wurstgelee : exactly 7500 cont @ 400$
[2015-11-02 23:53:59] wurstgelee : but you can see that yourself, simply fill out quantity and limit price
[2015-11-02 23:54:03] Yumi : go to Order Control, you can see Order Value will change depending on Quantity and Price
[2015-11-02 23:54:35] xinxi : Contract Size 0.010 mXBT per 1 USD (Currently 3.924 mXBT per contract)
[2015-11-02 23:54:48] xinxi : This definition of contract size is so confusing.
[2015-11-02 23:55:10] BitMEX_Sam : xinxi: That's how quantos work
[2015-11-02 23:55:20] BitMEX_Sam : Their value changes as the USD price changes.
[2015-11-02 23:55:22] podizzle3k : so nobody can explain why liquidation price moves around
[2015-11-02 23:55:57] wurstgelee : u have cross margin right?
[2015-11-02 23:56:05] BitMEX_Sam : podizzle3k: If you have other open positions it can move around as your available cross margin increases and decreases
[2015-11-02 23:56:32] podizzle3k : weird