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[2016-12-22 10:19:11] DangerandPlay : Anyone else do this?
[2016-12-22 10:19:59] ett1 : 1000 is my number
[2016-12-22 10:20:54] aethlios : ett1: I don't mean all your wealth but the capital you have to trade btc, keeping a long term hold could give substantial return in 20 years, maybe 40x today's price and could be more than the active trading return.
[2016-12-22 10:21:35] ett1 : yes i agree. depends if your are a good trader or not. the less skillful the more you should b&h
[2016-12-22 10:23:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 6000 @ 912.80
[2016-12-22 10:28:35] l3f : where's the dump
[2016-12-22 10:30:04] Nerve : Its gone....like Magic LOL
[2016-12-22 10:30:44] suriah : look for 850s from here
[2016-12-22 10:30:54] suriah : or 900s
[2016-12-22 10:32:56] aethlios : bitmex here? just want ti ask if tradingview will add xbch17
[2016-12-22 10:37:14] immackay : l3f: bitcoin doesn't retrace
[2016-12-22 10:41:01] wurstgelee : g_gravity 0
[2016-12-22 10:46:31] ett1 : laws of physics do not apply to this digital commodity
[2016-12-22 10:46:35] l3f : noclip 1
[2016-12-22 10:49:40] laisee : this time its different ... ;-)
[2016-12-22 10:54:07] shiroe : There goes the first red candle
[2016-12-22 10:55:17] shiroe : 4 more incoming.
[2016-12-22 10:56:57] shery : shiroe: big dildo incoming
[2016-12-22 10:58:14] shiroe : We have a lot of longs to rekt :D
[2016-12-22 10:58:39] anonymous789 : red candle on low volume, has 2 minutes to engulf the previous green candle
[2016-12-22 10:58:45] anonymous789 : technically that doesn't look bearish at all
[2016-12-22 10:59:02] anonymous789 : on the hourly at okc
[2016-12-22 10:59:19] laisee : ouch. someone got well rekt on ZEC H17
[2016-12-22 10:59:43] shiroe : It is not, just a sign. If 4 red dildos come, we know whats next.
[2016-12-22 11:00:16] anonymous789 : 4 sideways dildos will create another bull flag
[2016-12-22 11:00:27] anonymous789 : still doesn't look bearish
[2016-12-22 11:00:58] l3f : it's a shakeout
[2016-12-22 11:01:07] l3f : but I have stoplosses
[2016-12-22 11:01:13] anonymous789 : it may happen, but i don't see it happening
[2016-12-22 11:01:18] anonymous789 : not yet
[2016-12-22 11:01:20] l3f : secondly
[2016-12-22 11:01:22] l3f : fundamentals
[2016-12-22 11:01:32] shery : thursday have been a dump day in past
[2016-12-22 11:01:39] anonymous789 : the fundamentals have been shit for 2 years and we're rallying
[2016-12-22 11:04:08] anonymous789 : also we broke 6050ish cny which was a key area as it's the last resistance area i saw on the cny before the ATH on the weekly since november 2013
[2016-12-22 11:04:49] anonymous789 : there is still another resistance area relative to USD but i can't see it being difficult to break
[2016-12-22 11:06:14] l3f : you bears for real? it moves down 1% after 10% up and it's the end of the bulltrend?
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 66 @ 862.92
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 58520 @ 862.30 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10336 @ 861.39
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 600 @ 863.13
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 862.54
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 29200 @ 908.33
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 40000 @ 862.90
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20000 @ 862.95
[2016-12-22 11:06:51] l3f : fucking LOL
[2016-12-22 11:06:51] orly : whoops
[2016-12-22 11:07:37] shiroe : lol haha
[2016-12-22 11:07:44] Nerve : Well don REKT
[2016-12-22 11:08:31] thiago : wondering if those are noobs or what
[2016-12-22 11:08:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 4000 @ 6330.4
[2016-12-22 11:08:57] klee : btc38 hacked
[2016-12-22 11:09:12] pause88 : oof 58k
[2016-12-22 11:09:15] klee : 1.5m in hot wallet
[2016-12-22 11:10:06] l3f : klee: proof?
[2016-12-22 11:10:16] thiago : klee: that was like 20 hours ago
[2016-12-22 11:10:17] anonymous789 : inded where's the proof
[2016-12-22 11:10:38] thiago : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1724776.0
[2016-12-22 11:10:46] rms : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5jk8t0/btc38_hacked/ ? seems like old news
[2016-12-22 11:11:05] immackay : what a ride boys
[2016-12-22 11:11:26] rms : 1.5M RMB is like 20000
[2016-12-22 11:11:29] ett1 : BTFD
[2016-12-22 11:11:55] l3f : literally nothing
[2016-12-22 11:11:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20000 @ 856.94
[2016-12-22 11:11:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 498 @ 857.53
[2016-12-22 11:12:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 854.89
[2016-12-22 11:12:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 3001 @ 6040.7
[2016-12-22 11:12:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 1 @ 6028.7 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-22 11:12:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 3046 @ 6025.4
[2016-12-22 11:13:07] anonymous789 : o.O maybe it is a dump
[2016-12-22 11:13:28] anonymous789 : does seem low volume though
[2016-12-22 11:13:58] immackay : cock
[2016-12-22 11:14:14] anonymous789 : lol 310k buy at 850
[2016-12-22 11:14:21] l3f : yeah I'm still buying
[2016-12-22 11:14:23] arbitrage001 : wtf
[2016-12-22 11:14:26] arbitrage001 : what happen
[2016-12-22 11:14:32] l3f : arbitrage001: shake out
[2016-12-22 11:14:35] startChat : just a little cleanup
[2016-12-22 11:14:36] arbitrage001 : we were going to 1000
[2016-12-22 11:14:41] arbitrage001 : then 1000000
[2016-12-22 11:14:56] Kalman : dream on
[2016-12-22 11:15:08] arbitrage001 : Kalman: are you short
[2016-12-22 11:15:11] arbitrage001 : shorty
[2016-12-22 11:15:23] l3f : le sigh
[2016-12-22 11:15:47] Kalman : doesnt matter, if you see your wealth expressed in fiat your are doomed
[2016-12-22 11:16:21] arbitrage001 : i see my wealth expressed in my cock size
[2016-12-22 11:16:43] arbitrage001 : which is a function of amount of btc i hold
[2016-12-22 11:16:46] l3f : panic sell now and I'll buy it up
[2016-12-22 11:16:47] l3f : srs
[2016-12-22 11:16:59] Kalman : must be very little ;))
[2016-12-22 11:17:09] arbitrage001 : Kalman: for now, yes
[2016-12-22 11:17:16] arbitrage001 : but if we go to 100000 per btc
[2016-12-22 11:17:23] arbitrage001 : then me > you
[2016-12-22 11:17:34] l3f : can't even see the order book
[2016-12-22 11:18:01] Kalman : let see what you can buy with that 10000000 on the bunnyranch
[2016-12-22 11:18:21] l3f : wow
[2016-12-22 11:18:30] l3f : fucking told you it was a shakeout
[2016-12-22 11:18:36] l3f : weak heads are going to get dropped
[2016-12-22 11:18:41] l3f : hands*
[2016-12-22 11:18:46] anonymous789 : l3f: don't be so confident yet
[2016-12-22 11:18:54] l3f : anonymous789: this is pump101
[2016-12-22 11:19:03] shery : it will drop more today dont fall for it
[2016-12-22 11:19:31] l3f : I got a 10k fill at 850
[2016-12-22 11:19:33] l3f : just flip
[2016-12-22 11:19:37] anonymous789 : yea does seem like a shakeout
[2016-12-22 11:19:45] anonymous789 : wick getting longer
[2016-12-22 11:19:48] MrRGnome : bear trap. watch out.
[2016-12-22 11:19:51] anonymous789 : low volume
[2016-12-22 11:20:03] ett1 : added a cheeky 500 @ 853 lol
[2016-12-22 11:20:04] wurstgelee : btfd ofc
[2016-12-22 11:20:08] MrRGnome : real drop will be higher volume
[2016-12-22 11:20:09] ett1 : said i wouldnt
[2016-12-22 11:20:25] l3f : sleger: good work
[2016-12-22 11:20:36] anonymous789 : MrRGnome: we're back up above 6050 cny i don't it will drop
[2016-12-22 11:20:37] ett1 : sweaty palms
[2016-12-22 11:21:06] anonymous789 : see what happens at retest of 6100
[2016-12-22 11:21:16] MrRGnome : At some point, whether it's today or at $5000, it will drop and it will be higher volume. I'm just saying this isn't it, so watch out shorters.
[2016-12-22 11:21:21] Derreck : anonymous789: don't you think this is a bull trap?
[2016-12-22 11:21:24] ett1 : think well have a big upmove now
[2016-12-22 11:21:26] ett1 : higher volatility
[2016-12-22 11:21:27] tommygunn : buy the dip on to 1000
[2016-12-22 11:21:38] DangerandPlay : we're 'avin a gang bang, we're 'avin a ball, we're 'avin a gang bang, against the wall
[2016-12-22 11:21:51] anonymous789 : Derreck: too early to tell what's happening
[2016-12-22 11:22:10] arbitrage001 : anonymous789: it is not
[2016-12-22 11:22:21] arbitrage001 : we will either go up, go down, or stay flat
[2016-12-22 11:22:29] ett1 : a pullback has to be expected at some point
[2016-12-22 11:22:29] l3f : https://cryptofrenzy.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/god.pdf
[2016-12-22 11:22:30] anonymous789 : i want to see one more candle
[2016-12-22 11:22:30] arbitrage001 : i can guaranteee you
[2016-12-22 11:22:40] l3f : learn the pump & dump game
[2016-12-22 11:23:50] l3f : don't be a weak hand, don't be a floating chip, don't get shaken out, and ride the pump
[2016-12-22 11:23:52] ett1 : we all watching 5min candles?
[2016-12-22 11:24:06] anonymous789 : i'm watching hourly
[2016-12-22 11:24:10] anonymous789 : waiting for a third candle
[2016-12-22 11:24:11] arbitrage001 : ett1: i am watching 5 years candels
[2016-12-22 11:24:12] shiroe : 835! test it
[2016-12-22 11:24:20] arbitrage001 : think we will go down
[2016-12-22 11:24:28] shiroe : damn good thing i exit at 870. lmfao
[2016-12-22 11:24:29] l3f : candles don't mean shit
[2016-12-22 11:24:34] l3f : whales can paint the tape
[2016-12-22 11:24:51] arbitrage001 : light is the foundation of human civilization
[2016-12-22 11:24:54] shiroe : candles is what the makes the world go round.
[2016-12-22 11:24:56] ett1 : well the cant paint dailies,
[2016-12-22 11:25:01] shiroe : candles make the country burn.
[2016-12-22 11:25:04] arbitrage001 : candles is the gateway to light
[2016-12-22 11:25:11] l3f : I'd advise bears to short now if you think this is top
[2016-12-22 11:25:29] l3f : and longs to invest in stop losses
[2016-12-22 11:25:31] anonymous789 : l3f: i don't think it's top, but could make a short scalp
[2016-12-22 11:25:37] shiroe : burn 4k points on down, every american citizen will go broke. lmfao
[2016-12-22 11:25:44] shiroe : dow*
[2016-12-22 11:26:22] arbitrage001 : there is no reason why btc cant hit 1B per coin
[2016-12-22 11:26:24] ett1 : looks like it was a hunt for 850 stops
[2016-12-22 11:26:54] ett1 : but they wont be able to take out 800
[2016-12-22 11:27:18] ett1 : were going to 900
[2016-12-22 11:27:51] shery : ett1: is correction done?
[2016-12-22 11:28:12] ett1 : lets see if it hold abobe 850 for the hour
[2016-12-22 11:28:15] ett1 : i think so
[2016-12-22 11:28:24] Jore : Why did I get liquidated if my price was 844?
[2016-12-22 11:28:36] shery : ett1: correction is due
[2016-12-22 11:28:40] shiroe : price went 84
[2016-12-22 11:28:43] shiroe : 843
[2016-12-22 11:28:46] l3f : https://twitter.com/BitmexRekt
[2016-12-22 11:28:47] shiroe : on mark
[2016-12-22 11:28:58] ett1 : Jore: deleveraging? did it liquidate your entire position
[2016-12-22 11:28:58] l3f : so many longs got rekt
[2016-12-22 11:29:00] l3f : #rip
[2016-12-22 11:29:13] shiroe : put a stop limit :)
[2016-12-22 11:30:35] Jore : ett1: Yeah entirely, am I looking at the wrong chart? didn't go below 848 for me
[2016-12-22 11:31:08] wurstgelee : Jore: check ur email
[2016-12-22 11:31:17] wurstgelee : u should have received one with all liquidation details
[2016-12-22 11:31:52] ett1 : Jore: i dont know mate. i feel you though. mist suck if you got liquidated without expecting it
[2016-12-22 11:31:55] anonymous789 : it was that whale that put the 310k buy wall at 850
[2016-12-22 11:31:56] tommygunn : should of held my long from 578
[2016-12-22 11:32:46] arbitrage001 : tommygunn: should have sell my house and wife to go long from 1 dollar
[2016-12-22 11:33:24] tommygunn : not to worry you still have time to do that we are going new highs
[2016-12-22 11:33:47] shiroe : always put stop limit. once you get liquidated, you wont get anything in return. stoplimit gives you 50% back.
[2016-12-22 11:34:07] immackay : shiroe: I wish I knew that like
[2016-12-22 11:34:12] immackay : 10 minutes ago
[2016-12-22 11:34:23] immackay : I think I'm dead inside
[2016-12-22 11:34:24] ett1 : but your profits will be much smaller when you are right. i like to optimize @shiroe
[2016-12-22 11:34:34] shery : shiroe: stop market is stop limit t?
[2016-12-22 11:34:34] shiroe : immackay: i discovered that when i had too many rekts. lost around 10btc on that lesson.
[2016-12-22 11:34:55] shiroe : shery: stop limit.
[2016-12-22 11:35:27] shiroe : i never touched the other 4.
[2016-12-22 11:36:12] immackay : oh well, I didn't lose everything
[2016-12-22 11:36:17] immackay : just most of my profit from today
[2016-12-22 11:36:26] immackay : which is rather sad
[2016-12-22 11:37:07] shiroe : you lost profit + investment, i think?
[2016-12-22 11:37:14] l3f : immackay: how did you lose?
[2016-12-22 11:37:18] l3f : you long'd didn't you
[2016-12-22 11:37:36] immackay : l3f: long'd at like 873
[2016-12-22 11:37:56] l3f : immackay: I thought your entry was way lower
[2016-12-22 11:37:57] immackay : shiroe: nah, I'm down to what I started with yesterday
[2016-12-22 11:38:07] immackay : l3f: I had quite a few way lower
[2016-12-22 11:38:07] shiroe : immackay: orayt.
[2016-12-22 11:38:13] l3f : 871 is my entry to H17
[2016-12-22 11:38:14] l3f : lol
[2016-12-22 11:38:22] l3f : I've averaged up from 850
[2016-12-22 11:40:57] l3f : that 300k buy at 850
[2016-12-22 11:41:06] l3f : was the smartest guy
[2016-12-22 11:41:26] l3f : professional knife catcher
[2016-12-22 11:41:40] ett1 : l3f: whats your breakeven
[2016-12-22 11:41:47] ett1 : entry price
[2016-12-22 11:42:30] l3f : currently holding 45k @ 839.42 for XBT, 79k @ 871.17 for H17
[2016-12-22 11:42:49] l3f : any whales reading this don't you fucking dare #rekt me
[2016-12-22 11:43:03] l3f : I have stops
[2016-12-22 11:43:07] aethlios : l3f: he is already out 857-859
[2016-12-22 11:43:18] ett1 : oh nice
[2016-12-22 11:43:26] l3f : aethlios: what are you talking about?
[2016-12-22 11:43:29] ett1 : i thought you were talking the spot price lol
[2016-12-22 11:43:38] ett1 : im at 803 entry on swaps
[2016-12-22 11:43:38] suriah : got my 850
[2016-12-22 11:43:53] l3f : suriah: my man
[2016-12-22 11:44:04] aethlios : the 850 catcher I think he sold 100k orders to 857-859
[2016-12-22 11:44:24] l3f : aethlios: yeah he's a pro
[2016-12-22 11:44:36] l3f : my ui wasn't even loading
[2016-12-22 11:44:39] l3f : couldn't see the order book
[2016-12-22 11:44:45] l3f : I was just hitting market buy
[2016-12-22 11:44:56] l3f : all I could see was the last price
[2016-12-22 11:45:20] suriah : I didnt trade that though. I lost all my funds a few days ago trading recklessly
[2016-12-22 11:45:27] deep : how we can change teh liquidation price?
[2016-12-22 11:45:35] ett1 : if he bout at 850 & sold out 858 thats pretty risky i think. not worth it for the vol taken on
[2016-12-22 11:45:36] l3f : deep: add more to your margin
[2016-12-22 11:45:39] l3f : or remove
[2016-12-22 11:45:53] l3f : ett1: money is money
[2016-12-22 11:46:08] ett1 : ye to each their own
[2016-12-22 11:46:15] tommygunn : going for coffee, no hunting while I am away
[2016-12-22 11:46:17] l3f : 4 btcs for free
[2016-12-22 11:46:23] l3f : assuming he fully closed
[2016-12-22 11:46:36] shiroe : Going down again.
[2016-12-22 11:46:36] ett1 : tommygunn: you like coffee that much?
[2016-12-22 11:46:48] ett1 : im stuck to the screen
[2016-12-22 11:47:09] tommygunn : no point in living without it
[2016-12-22 11:47:57] l3f : set some stops, go to sleep
[2016-12-22 11:48:10] l3f : outta here
[2016-12-22 11:59:09] l3f : 837 hit on bitstamp
[2016-12-22 11:59:28] l3f : I bet sleger did this
[2016-12-22 12:01:55] anonymous789 : okc not looking as convincing as bitmex
[2016-12-22 12:02:36] narnarfromnarnia : it's gonna probably retrace 840's then start back up again
[2016-12-22 12:02:50] narnarfromnarnia : 1hr is over due right?
[2016-12-22 12:02:52] anonymous789 : that's what i'm thinking
[2016-12-22 12:03:01] narnarfromnarnia : amirite
[2016-12-22 12:03:22] narnarfromnarnia : this movement isn't along with any other exchange
[2016-12-22 12:03:28] l3f : I'd buy now but I don't want to average up too much
[2016-12-22 12:03:31] narnarfromnarnia : bfx not moving
[2016-12-22 12:03:57] anonymous789 : .
[2016-12-22 12:03:57] anonymous789 : +
[2016-12-22 12:04:02] shery : narnarfromnarnia: agree with you
[2016-12-22 12:04:20] shery : narnarfromnarnia: 840 havent gone anywhere
[2016-12-22 12:04:33] anonymous789 : yea bitmex seems overly bullish
[2016-12-22 12:05:08] shery : anonymous789: btmex will be over bearish too once it start moving down again
[2016-12-22 12:05:43] anonymous789 : i think if cny gets to 6100 again probably won't see that retrace to 840
[2016-12-22 12:05:54] l3f : who started this dump?
[2016-12-22 12:05:58] l3f : was it china or stamp?
[2016-12-22 12:06:36] shery : l3f: china
[2016-12-22 12:06:37] narnarfromnarnia : bfx was slightly ahead and i sodl at top
[2016-12-22 12:06:41] rapidtrades : lo 27$ is a dump?
[2016-12-22 12:06:57] anonymous789 : rapidtrades: these days it is i guess haha
[2016-12-22 12:07:07] shery : rapidtrades: 865 to 850 btmx is over reacting today
[2016-12-22 12:07:08] narnarfromnarnia : real dump coming
[2016-12-22 12:07:17] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: you shorting or what?
[2016-12-22 12:07:25] shery : real dump is due
[2016-12-22 12:07:25] anonymous789 : retrace to 840 isn't really a dump either
[2016-12-22 12:07:27] narnarfromnarnia : just looking at 1hr
[2016-12-22 12:07:35] narnarfromnarnia : it's like greenland
[2016-12-22 12:07:45] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: 1h still has 53 minutes to finish
[2016-12-22 12:08:03] shery : anonymous789: so what should we call it
[2016-12-22 12:08:10] narnarfromnarnia : sideways
[2016-12-22 12:08:18] anonymous789 : or slight correction
[2016-12-22 12:08:26] l3f : alright if it dumps then I'm a retard
[2016-12-22 12:08:31] anonymous789 : dump would be too around 680-700 i think
[2016-12-22 12:08:47] narnarfromnarnia : i feel like 840's will be good to get back in and hodl
[2016-12-22 12:08:52] l3f : I'll be back to 870 in 4 hours
[2016-12-22 12:08:55] l3f : we'll*
[2016-12-22 12:09:04] shery : l3f: so much confidence? what you call a duump
[2016-12-22 12:09:16] shery : l3f: 840 and 900 in 24 hours
[2016-12-22 12:09:19] l3f : shery: it dumped to 837 and it got ate up
[2016-12-22 12:09:36] shery : l3f: where did it dumped to 837??
[2016-12-22 12:09:41] l3f : stamp
[2016-12-22 12:09:48] shery : l3f: china matters bro
[2016-12-22 12:09:58] anonymous789 : lol december future lower than swap
[2016-12-22 12:10:37] narnarfromnarnia : things are moving on sell side here: https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
[2016-12-22 12:10:42] l3f : shery: all china knows how to do is buy to X cny, the sell to Y cny and everyone gets liquidated
[2016-12-22 12:10:59] l3f : when it pumps it follows stamp
[2016-12-22 12:11:13] l3f : secondly
[2016-12-22 12:11:17] l3f : this is blip on the daily candle
[2016-12-22 12:17:28] l3f : anyways if I'm wrong I get stopped out and I'll back in cheaper
[2016-12-22 12:17:34] l3f : no skin off my back
[2016-12-22 12:18:32] qwertyasdfg : someone want 0.00111ZEC?
[2016-12-22 12:19:18] narnarfromnarnia : anyone have a suggestion for application to trade with using API
[2016-12-22 12:19:23] narnarfromnarnia : web based is pretty rough here
[2016-12-22 12:19:34] narnarfromnarnia : something like qt trader
[2016-12-22 12:25:15] bingbongfly : the 100000 wall on sell swap
[2016-12-22 12:27:39] narnarfromnarnia : bingbongfly: ?
[2016-12-22 12:28:04] bingbongfly : narnarfromnarnia: there was a 100.000 sell wall on swap a few moments ago, did you miss it? :P
[2016-12-22 12:28:21] narnarfromnarnia : not 10k?
[2016-12-22 12:28:24] bingbongfly : nope
[2016-12-22 12:28:25] narnarfromnarnia : yeah
[2016-12-22 12:28:32] bingbongfly : 100.000 at 861
[2016-12-22 12:28:33] narnarfromnarnia : signal for down maybe
[2016-12-22 12:28:39] bingbongfly : maybe
[2016-12-22 12:28:42] bingbongfly : it got Got pulled away
[2016-12-22 12:28:56] narnarfromnarnia : no one really chomped into it
[2016-12-22 12:29:01] bingbongfly : yup
[2016-12-22 12:29:01] narnarfromnarnia : probably for being over bullish
[2016-12-22 12:29:26] bingbongfly : yeah, I've taken profits now so I'm in no position, only 1 x long with my funds
[2016-12-22 12:29:29] bingbongfly : feels good
[2016-12-22 12:29:34] narnarfromnarnia : whales want some margin calls
[2016-12-22 12:29:40] narnarfromnarnia : before up again
[2016-12-22 12:29:41] bingbongfly : seems so
[2016-12-22 12:29:48] narnarfromnarnia : ruthless
[2016-12-22 12:29:59] rapidtrades : no big premiums anywhere, specs are calling BS on this fakeas rall
[2016-12-22 12:30:39] narnarfromnarnia : i feel like we went up too quick but we break through critical area right?
[2016-12-22 12:31:25] narnarfromnarnia : i dunno what im talking about though
[2016-12-22 12:31:50] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: the rally feels real
[2016-12-22 12:32:01] arbitrage001 : especially for those who short
[2016-12-22 12:32:11] narnarfromnarnia : rapidtrades: some walls were eaten through on bfx
[2016-12-22 12:32:15] narnarfromnarnia : that's what got my attention
[2016-12-22 12:32:22] arbitrage001 : but i agree, this is the first time bitstamp leading the charge
[2016-12-22 12:33:06] rapidtrades : if we went up too quick premiums would spike
[2016-12-22 12:33:13] narnarfromnarnia : the 1hr will turn red and we'll have some down trend i think before we go up again
[2016-12-22 12:33:36] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: not necessaly
[2016-12-22 12:33:37] rapidtrades : noone trusts this rally, its almost 3 months long
[2016-12-22 12:33:38] anonymous789 : blood in the streets?
[2016-12-22 12:33:56] arbitrage001 : method to calculate premium has change for the swap
[2016-12-22 12:34:17] arbitrage001 : and the premium for future is low becuase risk is lower
[2016-12-22 12:34:25] arbitrage001 : cuz it is inverse contract
[2016-12-22 12:35:02] bingbongfly : only 2 out of 19 dailies are red on the kraken eur chart, amazing
[2016-12-22 12:38:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 2000 @ 906.98
[2016-12-22 12:38:47] shery : dump started
[2016-12-22 12:39:10] rapidtrades : oh no
[2016-12-22 12:39:10] narnarfromnarnia : shery: where?
[2016-12-22 12:39:15] micmix : it's over, sell everything and go to bed
[2016-12-22 12:39:21] rapidtrades : QQ
[2016-12-22 12:39:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 30 @ 859.67
[2016-12-22 12:39:33] rapidtrades : WE'RE ALL DEAD
[2016-12-22 12:39:40] shery : narnarfromnarnia: watch out in a while
[2016-12-22 12:40:29] shery : where is that guy saying 900 in 4 hour ?
[2016-12-22 12:41:04] narnarfromnarnia : i think we should at least see near 840
[2016-12-22 12:41:18] immackay : shery: probably cutting himself like I should be
[2016-12-22 12:41:30] immackay : rapidtrades: I think I know how it feels to be you
[2016-12-22 12:41:43] arbitrage001 : immackay: you dont
[2016-12-22 12:42:01] arbitrage001 : immackay: i shorted 5 btc at 710
[2016-12-22 12:42:07] shery : 840 isnt gone wnywhere , gow could it rise so much in one go, every pump have a small correctioon atleas
[2016-12-22 12:42:13] immackay : arbitrage001: ouch
[2016-12-22 12:42:21] arbitrage001 : immackay: exactly
[2016-12-22 12:42:30] immackay : but I lost 5 bitcoin today that I didn't start out with
[2016-12-22 12:42:39] immackay : which is just plain irritating
[2016-12-22 12:42:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 4350 @ 857.79
[2016-12-22 12:42:52] immackay : I mean, at least I'm not actually out any money
[2016-12-22 12:42:52] immackay : but
[2016-12-22 12:43:10] arbitrage001 : you use high leverage?
[2016-12-22 12:43:38] immackay : arbitrage001: yeah, but I made a shitty trade right before the massive dump a little while ago
[2016-12-22 12:43:55] arbitrage001 : making 5 btc in a day is impressive
[2016-12-22 12:43:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 1 @ 6038.6 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-22 12:44:12] immackay : arbitrage001: yeah, I went from .5 to 4.7
[2016-12-22 12:44:14] narnarfromnarnia : longs being called
[2016-12-22 12:44:26] immackay : now i'm back down at .7
[2016-12-22 12:44:46] anonymous789 : next target 5980 cny?
[2016-12-22 12:45:04] narnarfromnarnia : anonymous789: what's that in dollars?
[2016-12-22 12:45:19] anonymous789 : not sure, what it ends up being, i awlays just watch the cny chart
[2016-12-22 12:45:27] anonymous789 : always*
[2016-12-22 12:45:49] anonymous789 : looks to be around 840-845
[2016-12-22 12:46:00] anonymous789 : the support area
[2016-12-22 12:46:43] narnarfromnarnia : do you have a custom chart with support for USD marked by chance?
[2016-12-22 12:46:45] narnarfromnarnia : like trading view?
[2016-12-22 12:47:01] anonymous789 : oh nah, i just do my own thing
[2016-12-22 12:47:11] anonymous789 : i try and get opinions from here
[2016-12-22 12:47:13] anonymous789 : but no one ever replies
[2016-12-22 12:48:14] chords : its a little had predictin g the chart,keeping making wrong choices and lossing bitcoin
[2016-12-22 12:49:47] narnarfromnarnia : is there anywhere else to watch the orderbook and chart like bitcoinwisdom?
[2016-12-22 12:50:10] anonymous789 : tradingview is where i look at xbtusd
[2016-12-22 12:50:32] narnarfromnarnia : https://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitfinex/USD
[2016-12-22 12:50:38] narnarfromnarnia : something like this helps me out with the wall
[2016-12-22 12:50:46] narnarfromnarnia : her ei can only see up a few bucks
[2016-12-22 12:58:03] rms : http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-global-markets-bitcoin-idUKKBN14B14E
[2016-12-22 12:59:07] rapidtrades : SELL SELL SELL SELL
[2016-12-22 13:01:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 300 @ 859.44
[2016-12-22 13:02:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20000 @ 860.05
[2016-12-22 13:06:11] rapidtrades : sl
[2016-12-22 13:06:50] narnarfromnarnia : rapidtrades: ?
[2016-12-22 13:06:51] tommygunn : Last trade: $1,185.92CADVolume: 545.53073955XɃTLow: $1,117.50CADHigh: $1,200.00CAD switch CAD to US and you are good
[2016-12-22 13:07:55] rapidtrades : english?
[2016-12-22 13:08:14] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: we are going to moon
[2016-12-22 13:08:24] ett1 : rapidtrades: wheres your SL?
[2016-12-22 13:09:22] narnarfromnarnia : this is a stop loss?
[2016-12-22 13:09:33] rapidtrades : I left it at ur mom's place @ett1
[2016-12-22 13:09:34] narnarfromnarnia : i think its normal just 1hr crossing about now to red
[2016-12-22 13:09:51] narnarfromnarnia : little spike before more dumpage
[2016-12-22 13:10:20] ett1 : rapidtrades: my mom doesnt service broke bastards
[2016-12-22 13:11:03] rapidtrades : I think u just called ur mom a ho
[2016-12-22 13:11:39] ett1 : its the family business
[2016-12-22 13:12:11] rapidtrades : That puts its total value at around the same as that of an average FTSE 100 company.
[2016-12-22 13:13:30] ett1 : i think its going to dwarf the entire ftse100 market cap
[2016-12-22 13:15:17] ett1 : the bitcoin protocol is more valuable than the ftse100 companies output, its way undervalued
[2016-12-22 13:16:09] ytaews : does buying bitcoin give you a corresponding share of that value though?
[2016-12-22 13:16:09] rapidtrades : what makes it 'more valuable'
[2016-12-22 13:16:12] ett1 : investors will be liquidating their zombie company stocks making 20% if theyre lucky to to get into the bitcoin bull
[2016-12-22 13:16:47] rapidtrades : what makes it 'more valuable'
[2016-12-22 13:16:52] ett1 : rapidtrades: well banks are some of the biggest companies in the indexes right
[2016-12-22 13:17:00] ett1 : they provide banking service
[2016-12-22 13:17:06] laisee : without blockchain reward, the Bitcoin network will not earn much from fees, at current TPS levels.
[2016-12-22 13:17:22] ett1 : but bitcoin does it even better. its impossible to get an anonymous bank in todays environment and will remain so
[2016-12-22 13:17:29] ett1 : bitcoin is the new banking system
[2016-12-22 13:17:51] ett1 : in the olden days they used to call it banking, now everyhting is labelled money laundering and needs to be limited and controlled
[2016-12-22 13:17:57] ett1 : its a trillion dollar market
[2016-12-22 13:18:18] rapidtrades : I see BP, SABMiller, Vodafone and Royal Dutch Shell
[2016-12-22 13:18:33] rapidtrades : GlaxoSmithKline
[2016-12-22 13:18:40] rapidtrades : no banks buddy
[2016-12-22 13:18:51] ett1 : stockmarket is just a conspiracy between big corporations, pension schemes, investment houses that add no value (just offer protection from inflation)
[2016-12-22 13:19:00] ytaews : but if I buy shares in a bank I make money when the bank makes money
[2016-12-22 13:19:11] ett1 : nobodys really getting returns in the grand scheme of things its a casino
[2016-12-22 13:19:21] rapidtrades : ett1: thank u for that stupid opinion
[2016-12-22 13:19:23] ytaews : if I buy bitcoin and ppl can transact more efficiently, does that necessarily equate to money for me as a holder?
[2016-12-22 13:19:34] ett1 : but there will be a massive global transfer of wealth over to bitcoin until it stablaises
[2016-12-22 13:19:34] rapidtrades : each person here is now dumber for having to read that
[2016-12-22 13:20:02] orly : ett1: thing is, they are the ones running the world economy, politics, pretty much everything
[2016-12-22 13:20:17] rapidtrades : ytaews: has good points too
[2016-12-22 13:20:18] orly : ett1: bitcoin provides the technology, but that's not enough
[2016-12-22 13:20:25] ett1 : ytaews: not really, the regulators and staff milk all the profits till theres no shareholder value left. maybe if you got in 50 years ago
[2016-12-22 13:20:48] rapidtrades : CITATION NEEDED
[2016-12-22 13:20:50] ett1 : now its just something for the pension funds to buy as mandate
[2016-12-22 13:21:23] rapidtrades : stock market returns average 5-10% per year across the world
[2016-12-22 13:21:35] ett1 : whats inflation
[2016-12-22 13:21:43] ytaews : rapidtrades: only if you got in 50 years ago, clearly
[2016-12-22 13:22:10] ett1 : if i bought 25% gold, 25% house, 25% cash and 25% stocks 50 years ago...id still have the same thing today
[2016-12-22 13:22:16] ett1 : i wouldnt be riches
[2016-12-22 13:22:19] ett1 : richer
[2016-12-22 13:22:24] rapidtrades : no u wouldn't u moron
[2016-12-22 13:22:51] rapidtrades : http://theirrelevantinvestor.com/2016/12/02/the-permanent-portfolio/
[2016-12-22 13:23:00] ytaews : if you bought 100% bitcoin in 2011 you'd still have the same thing today... so you wouldn't be richer?
[2016-12-22 13:23:05] rapidtrades : ^ that allocation is pretty close to urs and it returned 9%
[2016-12-22 13:23:11] rapidtrades : 8% per year
[2016-12-22 13:23:20] ett1 : yes i would. id have the same house, the same weight in gold etc. I might be richer in dollar terms
[2016-12-22 13:23:35] ett1 : thats all this 5-7% stock market returns is. inflation.
[2016-12-22 13:23:53] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: where's the dump?
[2016-12-22 13:24:06] narnarfromnarnia : i dunno
[2016-12-22 13:24:07] narnarfromnarnia : waiting
[2016-12-22 13:24:15] narnarfromnarnia : seems to just be the 5min
[2016-12-22 13:24:18] ytaews : ett1: by your definition any return on any investment ever is just inflation
[2016-12-22 13:24:20] narnarfromnarnia : the 1hr has to cross over
[2016-12-22 13:24:21] l3f : exactly
[2016-12-22 13:24:22] ett1 : houses, a basket of commodities they all end up averaging about make the same returns if you look over 5 decades
[2016-12-22 13:24:33] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: if you shorted you'd have lost money
[2016-12-22 13:24:34] rapidtrades : no they dont
[2016-12-22 13:24:56] l3f : why don't you short now?
[2016-12-22 13:24:59] ett1 : ytaews: no because everything changes relatively
[2016-12-22 13:25:25] ett1 : like a barrel of oil was probably the same as a kg of tea at soem point. traders cal always make profits
[2016-12-22 13:25:43] rapidtrades : by ur login having 100 bitcoins with prices at $1000 is the same thing as having 100 bitcoins when pricess are $1
[2016-12-22 13:25:45] narnarfromnarnia : big wall movement on bfx
[2016-12-22 13:25:47] rapidtrades : u retard
[2016-12-22 13:25:58] ytaews : sure but if you bought a barrel of oil for $1 and still have it, you only really have 1 barrel of oil so you're not any richer now
[2016-12-22 13:25:59] rapidtrades : by ur logic*
[2016-12-22 13:26:13] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: lol is this your first day trading?
[2016-12-22 13:26:22] l3f : fucking lol
[2016-12-22 13:26:24] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-22 13:26:26] narnarfromnarnia : since mt gox yeah
[2016-12-22 13:26:53] l3f : yeah I can tell
[2016-12-22 13:28:06] narnarfromnarnia : bitmex is so bullish ahead of the other exchanges
[2016-12-22 13:28:36] rapidtrades : cos IQ is really low here
[2016-12-22 13:28:56] l3f : rapidtrades: you're so god damn right
[2016-12-22 13:29:16] l3f : rapidtrades: did you average down on the zec pump?
[2016-12-22 13:29:16] aethlios : swap strong now.
[2016-12-22 13:29:32] ett1 : rapidtrades: you did IQ test? what was your score
[2016-12-22 13:29:55] ett1 : i bet you were a 128
[2016-12-22 13:30:04] ett1 : kind good, but nothing special
[2016-12-22 13:30:13] l3f : ett1: nah he's a solid 200
[2016-12-22 13:30:33] l3f : I agree with his trading advice most of the time
[2016-12-22 13:30:43] narnarfromnarnia : aethlios: what do you mean?
[2016-12-22 13:30:47] narnarfromnarnia : balanced?
[2016-12-22 13:31:20] tulip : my XBT Mark Price shows 863 but chart is @ 868, something wrong?
[2016-12-22 13:31:24] immackay : ett1: rapidtrades is just vocal so we overly criticize him
[2016-12-22 13:31:25] aethlios : it is bullish more than it used to be
[2016-12-22 13:32:13] immackay : he's probably doing better than the average here
[2016-12-22 13:32:45] tommygunn : just read this made me chuckle just limit sell bra, back in my noob trading days i would hit market sell just as some asshole cleans out the order book and get insta rekt
[2016-12-22 13:32:53] laisee : thought he was bot provided by BMX to make troll box fun
[2016-12-22 13:33:12] l3f : laisee: no that's me
[2016-12-22 13:33:14] l3f : and REKT
[2016-12-22 13:33:34] l3f : rapidtrades sings and I dance
[2016-12-22 13:33:35] rapidtrades : laisee: u could prolly fit my personality in 20 catchphrases
[2016-12-22 13:33:43] rapidtrades : smone should make a me bot
[2016-12-22 13:34:31] laisee : prove that u ar not a bot
[2016-12-22 13:34:37] l3f : rapidtrades: here's some zingers "damn I bought at top" "damn I sold at bottom" "fuck this semen slurping market" "fuck this manipulation" "fuck zec"
[2016-12-22 13:35:34] tulip : someone please tell my why my position shows vastly different numbers than the buy/sell panel on the left side
[2016-12-22 13:35:47] l3f : tulip: because mark price and the last price aren't the same thing
[2016-12-22 13:35:55] l3f : nor is it the same as the index price
[2016-12-22 13:36:07] narnarfromnarnia : lil pump pre dump
[2016-12-22 13:36:09] tulip : is there a site that explains this?
[2016-12-22 13:36:19] l3f : tulip: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2016-12-22 13:36:35] BitMEX_Wally : tulip: Which numbers in particular are different?
[2016-12-22 13:36:44] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: lol it'd be at 870 and you're waiting for your predump
[2016-12-22 13:37:00] tulip : mark price and chart
[2016-12-22 13:37:14] tulip : and buy/sell on left side
[2016-12-22 13:37:17] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2016-12-22 13:37:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 866.01
[2016-12-22 13:37:19] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: why don't you put your money where your mouth is? short if you think it's going to dump?
[2016-12-22 13:37:27] ett1 : laisee: lol that bot comment was funny
[2016-12-22 13:37:30] ElNuevo : tulip: @BitMEX_Wally +1. new and dont understand this
[2016-12-22 13:37:32] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: am short