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[2016-12-22 07:35:57] shiroe : startChat: saves me a lot more :)
[2016-12-22 07:35:58] immackay : somehow I feel like you guys didn't get my sarcasm
[2016-12-22 07:36:06] l3f : ett1: any time now
[2016-12-22 07:36:21] mjones : lol bitfinex hit another new high just now
[2016-12-22 07:36:35] startChat : Alltime?
[2016-12-22 07:37:03] rms : so is okcoin's pump bot on now?
[2016-12-22 07:37:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 100 @ 862.96
[2016-12-22 07:38:09] startChat : rms: finex last time
[2016-12-22 07:38:19] startChat : go ETh go
[2016-12-22 07:38:57] l3f : this is so stupid
[2016-12-22 07:39:08] l3f : I enter H17 contract @ 850
[2016-12-22 07:39:17] l3f : and swap is already 860
[2016-12-22 07:39:25] l3f : oh lawd
[2016-12-22 07:40:48] mjones : bitfinex barely any support and it isnt dumping
[2016-12-22 07:42:45] narnarfromnarnia : what is H17?
[2016-12-22 07:42:54] narnarfromnarnia : 1hr?
[2016-12-22 07:43:01] startChat : cat virus
[2016-12-22 07:43:16] Bosails : startChat: lol
[2016-12-22 07:43:29] narnarfromnarnia : mother of all dumps coming
[2016-12-22 07:43:31] laisee : catscratchfever
[2016-12-22 07:43:36] startChat : narnarfromnarnia: its the march 31 future
[2016-12-22 07:43:38] shiroe : slide!
[2016-12-22 07:43:47] narnarfromnarnia : thanks
[2016-12-22 07:43:54] narnarfromnarnia : startChat: thanks
[2016-12-22 07:44:40] narnarfromnarnia : dumps gonna come on 1hr?
[2016-12-22 07:44:53] mjones : No dumps
[2016-12-22 07:45:09] mjones : Few profit takers is all
[2016-12-22 07:45:16] imapotato : I've entered a small margin long for the first time in... probably a year at least.
[2016-12-22 07:45:18] narnarfromnarnia : and restock again probably
[2016-12-22 07:45:19] mjones : Dip buying strong
[2016-12-22 07:45:19] imapotato : Should be safe to dump at this time.
[2016-12-22 07:45:22] KingTuna : still looks alright and healthy to me
[2016-12-22 07:45:25] l3f : mjones: just what currency do you think you are trading?
[2016-12-22 07:45:29] startChat : imapotato: thanks for the warning
[2016-12-22 07:45:37] shery : No need to dump guys
[2016-12-22 07:45:50] ett1 : lil im 170% ROE. still holding
[2016-12-22 07:45:52] laisee : best time to dumo is when ...
[2016-12-22 07:45:56] narnarfromnarnia : they did eat up quite a bit on finex a moment ago
[2016-12-22 07:46:09] narnarfromnarnia : i have to re-enter there and transfer over here
[2016-12-22 07:46:10] mjones : Exchanges should just remove the sell buttons. Only buying from now on
[2016-12-22 07:46:45] ett1 : i think bitfinex could do that to their customers
[2016-12-22 07:47:33] laisee : replace 'SELL' with 'TURBO BUY' button
[2016-12-22 07:47:44] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: not gonna take profits?
[2016-12-22 07:47:57] imapotato : So what's the consensus? Start of the next BTC "bubble", or just a temporary spike amid the slow climb of the last year?
[2016-12-22 07:48:13] ett1 : its like a career hedge. if it keeps going up ive missed my chance to get it
[2016-12-22 07:48:13] immackay : imapotato: temporary spike
[2016-12-22 07:48:21] laisee : Its a pre-Xmas gift from Bitcoin Inc.
[2016-12-22 07:48:26] ett1 : if i blow up noe, ill have time later to buy in below 800 probs
[2016-12-22 07:48:35] ett1 : it could go to $3k soon
[2016-12-22 07:48:36] ett1 : so fuck it
[2016-12-22 07:48:49] imapotato : /me gently caresses it
[2016-12-22 07:49:41] ett1 : it coud stay above 800 so ill see what happens. not taking profits yet. very discretionary since im leverage, but the 800 breakout was my reasonong
[2016-12-22 07:51:12] imapotato : I'm going to sleep on the margin long. gl me.
[2016-12-22 07:51:29] KingTuna : resistance did break - Around 6150 CNY
[2016-12-22 07:51:44] KingTuna : So I think a bit of consolidation and them higher
[2016-12-22 07:52:03] KingTuna : 7010 next point
[2016-12-22 07:52:14] l3f : this is getting stupidier by the minute
[2016-12-22 07:52:14] l3f : but fuck it
[2016-12-22 07:52:15] l3f : all in
[2016-12-22 07:52:25] l3f : feel my brain cells dying
[2016-12-22 07:52:32] l3f : standard pump
[2016-12-22 07:52:34] j8 : still tame by bitcoin standards
[2016-12-22 07:52:35] immackay : l3f: mine fried last night
[2016-12-22 07:52:50] narnarfromnarnia : how do you know when contracts are closed automatically is there a daily time?
[2016-12-22 07:53:11] narnarfromnarnia : oh i see it
[2016-12-22 07:53:12] narnarfromnarnia : durr
[2016-12-22 07:53:55] Apocalyptic : l3f: surrender to the pumping deamon
[2016-12-22 07:58:22] j8 : kill -9 pumpd
[2016-12-22 07:59:10] tb : pkill
[2016-12-22 07:59:13] laisee : && nohup selld --MAX
[2016-12-22 07:59:19] l3f : pumpd is actually a zombie process
[2016-12-22 07:59:34] l3f : nobody collected its return code
[2016-12-22 07:59:36] l3f : still hanging
[2016-12-22 08:00:32] justinlooking : nice -n-20 niced
[2016-12-22 08:00:44] justinlooking : *pumpd
[2016-12-22 08:00:48] rms : does REP have any resistance at its all time low or is it dead?
[2016-12-22 08:00:57] rms : MM bots there died
[2016-12-22 08:01:03] l3f : where's the stoploss placements fuccbois?
[2016-12-22 08:01:49] laisee : look at ur liquidation price, its there
[2016-12-22 08:02:03] laisee : :-(
[2016-12-22 08:02:10] l3f : 786
[2016-12-22 08:03:00] tb : Mine is 1205
[2016-12-22 08:03:05] tb : Hopefully it never gets there
[2016-12-22 08:03:38] l3f : I need it in case it shits down and I need to de leverage
[2016-12-22 08:03:49] l3f : I aint no bagholder
[2016-12-22 08:08:04] narnarfromnarnia : the funding timer at the top, what happens when that's over?
[2016-12-22 08:08:11] narnarfromnarnia : are positions closed automatically?
[2016-12-22 08:08:18] l3f : you pay interest
[2016-12-22 08:08:23] l3f : you positions stay
[2016-12-22 08:08:33] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: no, moneys taken out your wallet balance
[2016-12-22 08:08:41] narnarfromnarnia : ok i thought it just takes interest while trade is open
[2016-12-22 08:08:47] ett1 : its your realised loss will nudge up
[2016-12-22 08:08:56] l3f : it takes interest when the timer hits
[2016-12-22 08:09:00] ett1 : yes the trade stays open
[2016-12-22 08:09:02] l3f : so you can exit before it takes the interest
[2016-12-22 08:09:04] narnarfromnarnia : can we sit in just fiat on here?
[2016-12-22 08:09:12] l3f : there's no fiat in here
[2016-12-22 08:09:14] l3f : only bitcoin
[2016-12-22 08:09:23] narnarfromnarnia : so you always have to have a position open
[2016-12-22 08:09:29] rms : you can sit in BTC on here
[2016-12-22 08:09:44] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: you need to put a -1x short on
[2016-12-22 08:09:49] narnarfromnarnia : right
[2016-12-22 08:09:56] aethlios : narnarfromnarnia: you can sell swap or 3month contract the amount of btc you deposited, so you are in fiat.
[2016-12-22 08:10:00] ett1 : then you will be the same as having USD
[2016-12-22 08:10:11] narnarfromnarnia : oh that's good
[2016-12-22 08:10:14] rms : +++++counterparty risk
[2016-12-22 08:10:23] ett1 : you should get paid the interest this way (in normal circumstances)
[2016-12-22 08:10:32] rms : but bitmex's security practice of once a day withdrawals seems like best in industry
[2016-12-22 08:10:38] l3f : rms: :^))))
[2016-12-22 08:10:44] l3f : how about no withdrawals
[2016-12-22 08:10:47] l3f : that's safest
[2016-12-22 08:10:55] aethlios : narnarfromnarnia: and earn an interest in usd, so if short now march you get 6.2% for 100 days
[2016-12-22 08:11:06] l3f : have to send a paper mail to their offices
[2016-12-22 08:11:11] j8 : it's like having sketchy usd that could be converted to btc for you (auto-deleveraging) but you get much higher interest than with usd
[2016-12-22 08:11:25] startChat : the pump is on
[2016-12-22 08:11:28] narnarfromnarnia : interesting
[2016-12-22 08:11:37] narnarfromnarnia : which pump
[2016-12-22 08:11:43] ett1 : l3f: and provide ID & proofs of address, notarised
[2016-12-22 08:11:49] narnarfromnarnia : btc should retrace a bit from here i'd imagine
[2016-12-22 08:11:54] l3f : ett1: aye
[2016-12-22 08:12:05] rms : usa and china prices are narrowing, which probably means retrace or stabilize in this range
[2016-12-22 08:12:13] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: provide all that for what?
[2016-12-22 08:12:14] rms : if china pumps to +25 again we back on
[2016-12-22 08:12:31] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: were joking around
[2016-12-22 08:12:36] narnarfromnarnia : okay
[2016-12-22 08:12:38] shiroe : If this goes 870, ill short. Base on history, every dec 25 there is a dump / profit taking
[2016-12-22 08:13:11] narnarfromnarnia : today was nuts the price bounced $10 easily but other exchanges stood still
[2016-12-22 08:13:13] narnarfromnarnia : trying to figure it out
[2016-12-22 08:13:36] ett1 : shiroe: lol
[2016-12-22 08:13:44] shery : shiroe: I strongly beleive that there will be a small correction today and big correction on 25
[2016-12-22 08:13:49] ett1 : theres only like 5 dats points in that sample
[2016-12-22 08:14:07] ett1 : i wouldnt bet on it
[2016-12-22 08:14:15] laisee : santa's Xmas dump
[2016-12-22 08:14:20] narnarfromnarnia : how do you guys trade just the interface or something like qt trader?
[2016-12-22 08:14:51] wurstgelee : monkeys. i train monkeys to execute my trades
[2016-12-22 08:14:52] l3f : trade with the web, and shit post in here
[2016-12-22 08:14:55] shiroe : Yes, there will be correction. Ive spent 2 Xmas experiencing it.
[2016-12-22 08:15:11] startChat : ok cool. ill long
[2016-12-22 08:15:14] startChat : just for santa
[2016-12-22 08:15:50] rapidtrades : premiums are tiny, speculators are not onboard with this shit
[2016-12-22 08:15:56] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: think they have charts open on another window
[2016-12-22 08:16:03] laisee : year end window dressing to come b4 31
[2016-12-22 08:16:19] l3f : ett1: I thought we were talking about trading, not battle stations
[2016-12-22 08:16:23] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: not charts but actual application, super easy to execute trades vs web browser
[2016-12-22 08:16:50] zanza : once a day attack is still vulnerable
[2016-12-22 08:16:52] narnarfromnarnia : this is exciting, i think i'll make back everything gox stole from me
[2016-12-22 08:17:03] zanza : they claim to use multisig here with different locations
[2016-12-22 08:17:20] zanza : how much leverage u on narnarfromnarnia ?
[2016-12-22 08:17:29] rapidtrades : narnarfromnarnia: I'm pretty sure u wont
[2016-12-22 08:17:44] zanza : it wouldn't be a Bitcoin rally without a major "hack" coming soon
[2016-12-22 08:17:45] l3f : zanza: lol knowing this startup, arthur has a key, sam has a key, they have a paper key
[2016-12-22 08:17:53] ett1 : there he is!
[2016-12-22 08:18:05] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: rapidtrades is a famous trader
[2016-12-22 08:18:08] l3f : well known in china
[2016-12-22 08:18:17] narnarfromnarnia : ok
[2016-12-22 08:18:19] l3f : tales of his exploits traveled' the world
[2016-12-22 08:18:21] zanza : and mongolia
[2016-12-22 08:18:39] narnarfromnarnia : rapidtrades: gox got some of your coins then?
[2016-12-22 08:18:53] l3f : he's made so much money all he does now is come here and give bad advice
[2016-12-22 08:18:59] ett1 : renowned for his aggressive style & calling retracements
[2016-12-22 08:19:02] Derreck : OMG BTC on the moon! And I closed my long XBTH17 position yesterday @ 880(((
[2016-12-22 08:19:22] l3f : Derreck: nobody went broke taking profits
[2016-12-22 08:19:23] l3f : all good
[2016-12-22 08:19:27] ett1 : and he doensnt need sleep
[2016-12-22 08:19:42] ett1 : kind of the perfect combo for trading bitcoin
[2016-12-22 08:20:03] l3f : expert on tops actually
[2016-12-22 08:20:20] startChat : bands getting tight,
[2016-12-22 08:20:20] Derreck : l3f: yeah I know! Just a bit of disappointment here
[2016-12-22 08:21:37] MrRGnome : You forgot the most important part about rapidtrades. He claims he is a lawyer! And a professional trader. Despite never being employed to do either.
[2016-12-22 08:22:36] startChat : bird law maybe
[2016-12-22 08:22:42] l3f : has bullying gone too far?
[2016-12-22 08:24:07] MrRGnome : Asked the victims of rapidtrades verbal abuse. He only gets it so bad because he has it coming.
[2016-12-22 08:24:47] MrRGnome : On any other site he would have been banned 100x over
[2016-12-22 08:24:47] startChat : broke up!
[2016-12-22 08:24:50] startChat : lets do it!
[2016-12-22 08:25:16] ett1 : MrRGnome: he textually abused me
[2016-12-22 08:25:56] narnarfromnarnia : i wish bitcoinwisdom has this on their site
[2016-12-22 08:26:09] j8 : all you new guys just don't appreciate rapidtrades' sense of humour.
[2016-12-22 08:26:55] micmix : exactly
[2016-12-22 08:26:57] l3f : j8: I do
[2016-12-22 08:27:15] l3f : he's a troll in his heart
[2016-12-22 08:27:17] thiago : fags
[2016-12-22 08:27:26] l3f : thiago: outta nowhere
[2016-12-22 08:27:38] startChat : more new highs finex
[2016-12-22 08:28:39] narnarfromnarnia : i forgot to hodl
[2016-12-22 08:29:08] j8 : you sodl
[2016-12-22 08:29:14] l3f : Look at the chinese chat
[2016-12-22 08:29:16] l3f : if you want a good laugh
[2016-12-22 08:29:51] startChat : WTF going on
[2016-12-22 08:29:55] thiago : who was the guy talking about simple fx?
[2016-12-22 08:31:30] startChat : What about it
[2016-12-22 08:31:39] KingTuna : The chinese want bigly out of the yen
[2016-12-22 08:31:41] KingTuna : Yuan*
[2016-12-22 08:31:46] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2016-12-22 08:31:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 19077 @ 863.63
[2016-12-22 08:32:03] ett1 : hahah i like that one REKT
[2016-12-22 08:32:08] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-22 08:32:11] narnarfromnarnia : here it comes
[2016-12-22 08:32:18] narnarfromnarnia : shorts being called now?
[2016-12-22 08:32:36] l3f : wtf i hate shorting now
[2016-12-22 08:33:03] ett1 : l3f: you went short?
[2016-12-22 08:33:29] l3f : shorting a pump would be the last thing I do
[2016-12-22 08:33:39] ett1 : :)
[2016-12-22 08:35:31] zfan : I feel the real money will be coming soon
[2016-12-22 08:35:35] zfan : https://twitter.com/BitfuryGeorge/status/811563784682819584
[2016-12-22 08:36:14] l3f : zfan: he's just a pumper
[2016-12-22 08:36:20] l3f : don't believe his lies
[2016-12-22 08:36:33] l3f : well I'd take it with a grain of salt
[2016-12-22 08:36:37] l3f : large one
[2016-12-22 08:36:45] zfan : lol, ok
[2016-12-22 08:37:05] immackay : who shorts bitcoin?
[2016-12-22 08:37:12] immackay : other than rapidtrades
[2016-12-22 08:37:22] coindork : i have a quick question if anyone can help
[2016-12-22 08:38:41] ett1 : immackay: Izabella Kaminska?
[2016-12-22 08:39:15] immackay : ett1: that went over my head
[2016-12-22 08:39:36] ett1 : the FT journalist always bashing it
[2016-12-22 08:40:18] immackay : oh yeah well most articles I see about bitcoin from msm are all doom and gloom
[2016-12-22 08:41:05] laisee : she writes clickbait trash about anything considered controversial
[2016-12-22 08:42:51] startChat : immackay: until we get fast growth
[2016-12-22 08:43:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: buy 2 @ 0.047979
[2016-12-22 08:43:38] ett1 : the bubble articles will be coming soon
[2016-12-22 08:43:47] ett1 : once were over 2k
[2016-12-22 08:44:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: buy 1 @ 0.049449
[2016-12-22 08:45:48] coindork : if my entry price is 911 and liq price is 897.55, how can my unrealized gain be less than 1% of my value when the mark is at 918?
[2016-12-22 08:47:24] j8 : 918 isn't 1% higher than 911
[2016-12-22 08:48:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: buy 1 @ 0.050286
[2016-12-22 08:48:53] coindork : and 897 isn't 100% lower than 911, but it liquidates at that price because of the leverage
[2016-12-22 08:50:18] PARAFFIN : such growth
[2016-12-22 08:50:55] j8 : couple things. there is 0.5% maintenance margin, so you are liquidated before you lose 100%. your PNL doesn't depend on leverage - just position size
[2016-12-22 08:51:32] coindork : PNL doesn't depend on leverage?
[2016-12-22 08:51:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: buy 20 @ 0.054021
[2016-12-22 08:52:15] immackay : coindork: nope
[2016-12-22 08:52:17] j8 : for a given position notional, leverage doesn't matter. it just changes your liquidation price by assigning more or less margin
[2016-12-22 08:52:50] l3f : lol zec
[2016-12-22 08:52:53] immackay : if I start with 1 btc, I can buy 1 btc worth of contracts with 1x leverage
[2016-12-22 08:53:46] immackay : or I can buy 100 btc worth of contracts with 100x
[2016-12-22 08:54:45] laisee : ZEC awakes ...
[2016-12-22 08:59:51] narnarfromnarnia : does anyone trade 100x normally or daily?
[2016-12-22 09:00:22] narnarfromnarnia : how do you even watch
[2016-12-22 09:00:56] DangerandPlay : OK, whatever your positions are... unbiased opinions please... Anyone think we're going to see bitcoin break 1,500 or even 2,000 in the next couple of weeks?
[2016-12-22 09:01:09] KingTuna : I think this pump in bitcoin is due to the Indians this time and not the chinese
[2016-12-22 09:01:21] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: watching doesnt help. are you goin got react when its down 50?
[2016-12-22 09:01:22] KingTuna : Demonitization efforts
[2016-12-22 09:01:34] KingTuna : Push bitcoin
[2016-12-22 09:01:42] KingTuna : pushing*
[2016-12-22 09:01:57] startChat : KingTuna: yes. pushed by west. awareness of cash being taken away is huge
[2016-12-22 09:02:21] KingTuna : startChat: By west?
[2016-12-22 09:02:28] DangerandPlay : what do you all think it's going to hit?
[2016-12-22 09:02:33] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: i would be trading shorter time frame
[2016-12-22 09:02:40] KingTuna : Oh in lieu of indian cash
[2016-12-22 09:02:43] DangerandPlay : are we gonna see a 2013-style pump? that would take it over 7,000 usd
[2016-12-22 09:02:59] startChat : nobody konws
[2016-12-22 09:03:03] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: ye i wonder the same. i can really only think its for gambling
[2016-12-22 09:03:35] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: 10x seems fine though
[2016-12-22 09:04:11] ett1 : ye i think it depends. for day trading sure
[2016-12-22 09:04:37] ett1 : normally i dont leve, or would go 2-3x max
[2016-12-22 09:04:46] ett1 : but im at 20x today
[2016-12-22 09:04:48] ett1 : lol
[2016-12-22 09:05:29] narnarfromnarnia : yeah a whale dump could eat all those longs right about now but this volume is really high here
[2016-12-22 09:06:56] startChat : better to wait for more fish
[2016-12-22 09:07:09] startChat : *plankton
[2016-12-22 09:07:53] DangerandPlay : my liquidation price is 730
[2016-12-22 09:07:59] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
[2016-12-22 09:08:02] DangerandPlay : i've raised my stops to around 810
[2016-12-22 09:08:17] DangerandPlay : sorry 703, not 730
[2016-12-22 09:08:45] ett1 : my entry price 801.2 liq 775
[2016-12-22 09:09:02] ett1 : i think id exit around breakeven or before but trying to let it ride
[2016-12-22 09:10:04] rms : so who's betting against me on zcash futures? i can understand shorting dec 30th but trying to keep mar 31 below spot seems really expensive
[2016-12-22 09:10:12] ett1 : DangerandPlay: i think your safe. 700-730 was my 'safe' SL area before i went nuts
[2016-12-22 09:10:45] ett1 : dont think well go 10% below the breakout level
[2016-12-22 09:11:17] ett1 : 190% ROE
[2016-12-22 09:11:23] shery : where is the next resistance?
[2016-12-22 09:11:45] ett1 : 900? 1000? 1200? psychological levels
[2016-12-22 09:12:12] ett1 : what is was 6000 CNY in USD
[2016-12-22 09:12:49] ett1 : nvm
[2016-12-22 09:12:49] blacktuesday : xbtZ still trading below xbtusd price
[2016-12-22 09:14:00] DangerandPlay : ett1: hope you're right
[2016-12-22 09:14:16] DangerandPlay : my positions will close if we head towards 800
[2016-12-22 09:14:23] DangerandPlay : and i'll be happy with the modest profit i made
[2016-12-22 09:14:36] ett1 : ye i think we have a similar plan
[2016-12-22 09:15:06] shery : Bitcoin is till due for a correction , This rise without a correction doesnt look good
[2016-12-22 09:15:19] DangerandPlay : got in at 769 with 14,000 contracts
[2016-12-22 09:15:57] ett1 : i dont think its a smart idea to add any more
[2016-12-22 09:16:05] DangerandPlay : agree
[2016-12-22 09:16:06] ett1 : just let it ride and see
[2016-12-22 09:16:12] DangerandPlay : good luck bro!!!
[2016-12-22 09:16:23] ett1 : thx, you too
[2016-12-22 09:16:42] ett1 : got 10,0000 long
[2016-12-22 09:17:27] ett1 : 1btc profit
[2016-12-22 09:17:50] l3f : rms: zec's going to be failed pump
[2016-12-22 09:17:56] l3f : I'd short it if I wasn't all in btc now
[2016-12-22 09:18:33] l3f : my reason is two fold
[2016-12-22 09:18:45] l3f : net flow still negative
[2016-12-22 09:18:57] l3f : means more kids selling than buying
[2016-12-22 09:19:48] l3f : secondly zec supply will double again in two weeks
[2016-12-22 09:19:53] l3f : it'll get sold to zero
[2016-12-22 09:20:56] narnarfromnarnia : how does it double?
[2016-12-22 09:21:02] micmix : sure, sure, everyone has to short zec for infinite profits
[2016-12-22 09:21:09] ett1 : when this BTC rally is over, i might look at alts to short
[2016-12-22 09:21:17] rms : right, but why short far futures instead of the near futures?
[2016-12-22 09:21:28] l3f : rms: dunno
[2016-12-22 09:21:32] laisee : bigger profitz?
[2016-12-22 09:21:46] rms : but it's really far from spot already
[2016-12-22 09:22:00] rms : dunno
[2016-12-22 09:22:05] rms : guess we'll see
[2016-12-22 09:22:34] laisee : long dated contracts are more illiquid, esp on bmx. bigger gains/losses
[2016-12-22 09:22:43] narnarfromnarnia : anyone have a good chart to share on tradingview for xbtusd?
[2016-12-22 09:23:04] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: no chart required, just 100x long
[2016-12-22 09:23:05] l3f : you'll thank me later
[2016-12-22 09:23:20] narnarfromnarnia : it's going to retrace here soon i think man
[2016-12-22 09:23:26] micmix : I have a chart that goes to infinity
[2016-12-22 09:23:26] narnarfromnarnia : maybe like 815
[2016-12-22 09:23:30] micmix : and beyond
[2016-12-22 09:23:37] shery : l3f: It will correct
[2016-12-22 09:23:39] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: this is a pump and pumps don't retrace
[2016-12-22 09:24:05] shery : l3f: pump without correction arent pumps
[2016-12-22 09:24:22] l3f : shery: no, too many FOMOers will eat it up
[2016-12-22 09:24:26] l3f : and it'll look as if it doesn't retrace
[2016-12-22 09:24:28] narnarfromnarnia : it's going to hit hard too
[2016-12-22 09:24:42] l3f : if you think this price is ridiclous
[2016-12-22 09:24:51] l3f : it'll look super ridicilous at 1k+
[2016-12-22 09:24:55] l3f : and then you'll think that's retarded
[2016-12-22 09:24:59] l3f : and it'll go up higher
[2016-12-22 09:25:06] shery : l3f: I think if it start going down many will sell in panic too
[2016-12-22 09:25:08] l3f : until you're like shit I should have went all in
[2016-12-22 09:25:13] ett1 : they said 100 was ridiculous
[2016-12-22 09:25:15] l3f : then it'll go down
[2016-12-22 09:25:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20000 @ 868.33
[2016-12-22 09:25:30] shery : l3f: Although i am long on btc but still its more good to speak the reality
[2016-12-22 09:25:43] narnarfromnarnia : why is chinese troll so rekt?
[2016-12-22 09:26:00] l3f : shery: I think you'll get shaken out and be forced by buy back in higher
[2016-12-22 09:26:26] l3f : it's just slowly hitting social media
[2016-12-22 09:26:33] ett1 : this is the start of the new wave
[2016-12-22 09:26:46] l3f : if you exit at the breakout then you don't get to ride
[2016-12-22 09:26:54] ett1 : like when $30 broke to $250 ,or $250 broke to $1200
[2016-12-22 09:26:58] ett1 : it didnt retrace
[2016-12-22 09:27:43] l3f : I've set enough stop losses but I doubt they cover so they're probably worth nothing
[2016-12-22 09:27:52] ett1 : only once it hit a peak after like X,00%
[2016-12-22 09:28:06] aethlios : biweekly okcoin in discount, chinese mad losing control
[2016-12-22 09:28:11] narnarfromnarnia : william r%
[2016-12-22 09:28:15] narnarfromnarnia : it's peaking right?
[2016-12-22 09:28:32] narnarfromnarnia : 1hr
[2016-12-22 09:28:32] ett1 : all your trend indicators will be signalling overbought
[2016-12-22 09:28:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 76186 @ 869.23 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-22 09:28:51] KingTuna : Fundamentals now > technicals
[2016-12-22 09:29:06] ett1 : but it will keep signalling overbought as the market keeps pumping. not useful in these markets
[2016-12-22 09:29:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3080 @ 869.42
[2016-12-22 09:29:21] ayy_lmao : what a time to be alive
[2016-12-22 09:29:30] MrRGnome : This is so enjoyable to watch
[2016-12-22 09:29:54] narnarfromnarnia : yeah it's okay to offload your winnings i think for at least a few hours from here
[2016-12-22 09:29:59] narnarfromnarnia : who knows though this is bitcoin
[2016-12-22 09:30:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 13250 @ 6437.1
[2016-12-22 09:30:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCZ16`: buy 5000 @ 6158.8
[2016-12-22 09:30:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 35540 @ 922.64
[2016-12-22 09:30:26] Gomezpl : wtf bitcoin!
[2016-12-22 09:30:41] KingTuna : curry munchers buying up
[2016-12-22 09:30:58] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: case in point
[2016-12-22 09:31:02] MrRGnome : I'm never getting off this rocket. We'll settle higher than 800, there are more waves to come post retrace (if it comes anytime soon)
[2016-12-22 09:31:04] KingTuna : Bitcoin surge by worlds second most populous nation - their turn
[2016-12-22 09:31:05] l3f : if you were thinking of shorting
[2016-12-22 09:31:10] l3f : wait until 1k
[2016-12-22 09:31:40] transisto : usually shitcoins goes down when btc goes up. This ZEC pump going to end in epic fail.
[2016-12-22 09:37:03] DangerandPlay : how much does it cost per day to maintain bitmex's 'unique' futures-style contract?
[2016-12-22 09:37:49] ett1 : i was asking earlier apparently 50% APR has been about the average
[2016-12-22 09:37:53] ett1 : it floats
[2016-12-22 09:37:54] MrRGnome : DangerandPlay: I don't understand the question. How much do you pay in fees? How much are the hosting costs?
[2016-12-22 09:38:09] ett1 : funding rate
[2016-12-22 09:38:11] DangerandPlay : yea, fees. sorry
[2016-12-22 09:38:37] MrRGnome : Do you pay a funding rate at all on futures? I thought it was just the straight fee.
[2016-12-22 09:38:53] l3f : not funding rate on futures
[2016-12-22 09:38:59] l3f : no*
[2016-12-22 09:39:03] MrRGnome : +settlement fee if you hold to settlement
[2016-12-22 09:39:32] ett1 : sorry, thought you were talking about swaps "'bitmex unique' futures-style contract"
[2016-12-22 09:39:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECH17`: buy 1640 @ 0.033163
[2016-12-22 09:40:03] l3f : jesus christ 1604
[2016-12-22 09:40:37] l3f : was he holding on till settlement
[2016-12-22 09:41:27] DangerandPlay : well they aren't traditional futures for bitcoin on bitmex, as i understand it
[2016-12-22 09:41:44] l3f : No but zec has like no liquidity
[2016-12-22 09:41:53] l3f : and 100 on there's already massive
[2016-12-22 09:41:55] l3f : that was 1.6k
[2016-12-22 09:42:00] l3f : like wtf
[2016-12-22 09:42:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 460 @ 872.79
[2016-12-22 09:42:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 9990 @ 872.72
[2016-12-22 09:43:36] Gomezpl : no pojebalo
[2016-12-22 09:43:56] KingTuna : If it gets to $1k oh lord
[2016-12-22 09:44:26] ett1 : if it gets to 1k i think its going straigh to 1600
[2016-12-22 09:44:39] ett1 : i might double up
[2016-12-22 09:46:21] KingTuna : hmmm just when i thought nothing goes in a straight line
[2016-12-22 09:47:19] l3f : KingTuna: welcome to Stratton
[2016-12-22 09:47:37] KingTuna : statton?
[2016-12-22 09:47:43] l3f : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratton_Oakmont
[2016-12-22 09:48:15] KingTuna : l3f: oh right LOL
[2016-12-22 09:48:19] KingTuna : makes sense
[2016-12-22 09:50:44] ett1 : $100,000,000,000
[2016-12-22 09:50:58] l3f : Quick opinion poll
[2016-12-22 09:50:59] ett1 : Former type Brokerage House Industry Investment banking, stock exchange Founded 1989 Founder Jordan Belfort Defunct December 1996 Headquarters Lake Success, Long Island, New York, United States Area served United States Key people Jordan Belfort (CEO), Andrew Greene, Steven P. Sanders. Danny Porush (Chairman and President) Revenue $100,000,000,000
[2016-12-22 09:51:16] l3f : when H17 settles, how much do you think it will be at
[2016-12-22 09:51:20] ett1 : 100bn in revenue lol
[2016-12-22 09:51:21] l3f : realistic numbers please
[2016-12-22 09:51:58] micmix : l3f: 666.66
[2016-12-22 09:53:51] l3f : certainly possible
[2016-12-22 09:54:24] l3f : I fucking swear if bitfinex get hacked again
[2016-12-22 09:54:28] l3f : it will be 666 tomorrow
[2016-12-22 09:55:11] shiroe : 800 - 870 with x50 leverage is a merry christmas to me :) since 6 hours ago. haha
[2016-12-22 09:55:30] narnarfromnarnia : so to basically stay neutral just hold a -1x basically right?
[2016-12-22 09:59:30] aethlios : narnarfromnarnia: true
[2016-12-22 10:00:41] thiago : 6200 soon?
[2016-12-22 10:02:44] narnarfromnarnia : i wonder how much this will retrace
[2016-12-22 10:03:50] DangerandPlay : i can see it hitting 1,500 over christmas/new year and i can see it breaking 5,000 when trump gets inaugurated. then it'll stabilise around 1,500
[2016-12-22 10:03:56] DangerandPlay : i think the new normal is 1,500
[2016-12-22 10:04:52] anonymous789 : .I can see pigs flying
[2016-12-22 10:06:54] DangerandPlay : haters gonna hate :)
[2016-12-22 10:07:31] immackay : DangerandPlay: I want some of what you're smoking
[2016-12-22 10:08:17] laisee : what currency unit are those predictions based on?
[2016-12-22 10:08:27] DangerandPlay : USD :)
[2016-12-22 10:08:28] DangerandPlay : :-)
[2016-12-22 10:13:59] DangerandPlay : scoff away :) i'll be back late january to gloat and close my positions
[2016-12-22 10:14:00] DangerandPlay : !!!
[2016-12-22 10:14:36] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/QAt7ES1s/ just by the plan.
[2016-12-22 10:14:45] rms : is there anyone here that plans an indefinite long strategy? like not selling and trying to buy in dips ever but just letting it ride till 2000?
[2016-12-22 10:15:55] aethlios : you can have 35% capital cold storage long tern hold for 20 years and a 65% to trade.
[2016-12-22 10:16:05] laisee : rms: those people may not be here, perhaps
[2016-12-22 10:18:28] ett1 : aethlios: id say 35% is a bit risk, but its a good idea with 10-20%
[2016-12-22 10:18:48] Bora : Quoine?
[2016-12-22 10:18:48] ett1 : definitely worth doing with 5% so youve always got a backup
[2016-12-22 10:19:06] DangerandPlay : 21 is my magic number. I always have at least 21 coins in cold storage. I play with (and enjoy the profits) from whatever spills over.
[2016-12-22 10:19:11] DangerandPlay : Anyone else do this?
[2016-12-22 10:19:59] ett1 : 1000 is my number
[2016-12-22 10:20:54] aethlios : ett1: I don't mean all your wealth but the capital you have to trade btc, keeping a long term hold could give substantial return in 20 years, maybe 40x today's price and could be more than the active trading return.
[2016-12-22 10:21:35] ett1 : yes i agree. depends if your are a good trader or not. the less skillful the more you should b&h
[2016-12-22 10:23:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 6000 @ 912.80
[2016-12-22 10:28:35] l3f : where's the dump
[2016-12-22 10:30:04] Nerve : Its gone....like Magic LOL
[2016-12-22 10:30:44] suriah : look for 850s from here
[2016-12-22 10:30:54] suriah : or 900s
[2016-12-22 10:32:56] aethlios : bitmex here? just want ti ask if tradingview will add xbch17
[2016-12-22 10:37:14] immackay : l3f: bitcoin doesn't retrace
[2016-12-22 10:41:01] wurstgelee : g_gravity 0
[2016-12-22 10:46:31] ett1 : laws of physics do not apply to this digital commodity
[2016-12-22 10:46:35] l3f : noclip 1
[2016-12-22 10:49:40] laisee : this time its different ... ;-)
[2016-12-22 10:54:07] shiroe : There goes the first red candle
[2016-12-22 10:55:17] shiroe : 4 more incoming.
[2016-12-22 10:56:57] shery : shiroe: big dildo incoming
[2016-12-22 10:58:14] shiroe : We have a lot of longs to rekt :D
[2016-12-22 10:58:39] anonymous789 : red candle on low volume, has 2 minutes to engulf the previous green candle
[2016-12-22 10:58:45] anonymous789 : technically that doesn't look bearish at all
[2016-12-22 10:59:02] anonymous789 : on the hourly at okc
[2016-12-22 10:59:19] laisee : ouch. someone got well rekt on ZEC H17
[2016-12-22 10:59:43] shiroe : It is not, just a sign. If 4 red dildos come, we know whats next.
[2016-12-22 11:00:16] anonymous789 : 4 sideways dildos will create another bull flag
[2016-12-22 11:00:27] anonymous789 : still doesn't look bearish
[2016-12-22 11:00:58] l3f : it's a shakeout
[2016-12-22 11:01:07] l3f : but I have stoplosses
[2016-12-22 11:01:13] anonymous789 : it may happen, but i don't see it happening
[2016-12-22 11:01:18] anonymous789 : not yet
[2016-12-22 11:01:20] l3f : secondly
[2016-12-22 11:01:22] l3f : fundamentals
[2016-12-22 11:01:32] shery : thursday have been a dump day in past
[2016-12-22 11:01:39] anonymous789 : the fundamentals have been shit for 2 years and we're rallying
[2016-12-22 11:04:08] anonymous789 : also we broke 6050ish cny which was a key area as it's the last resistance area i saw on the cny before the ATH on the weekly since november 2013
[2016-12-22 11:04:49] anonymous789 : there is still another resistance area relative to USD but i can't see it being difficult to break
[2016-12-22 11:06:14] l3f : you bears for real? it moves down 1% after 10% up and it's the end of the bulltrend?
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 66 @ 862.92
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 58520 @ 862.30 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10336 @ 861.39
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 600 @ 863.13
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 862.54
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 29200 @ 908.33
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 40000 @ 862.90
[2016-12-22 11:06:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20000 @ 862.95
[2016-12-22 11:06:51] l3f : fucking LOL
[2016-12-22 11:06:51] orly : whoops
[2016-12-22 11:07:37] shiroe : lol haha
[2016-12-22 11:07:44] Nerve : Well don REKT
[2016-12-22 11:08:31] thiago : wondering if those are noobs or what
[2016-12-22 11:08:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 4000 @ 6330.4
[2016-12-22 11:08:57] klee : btc38 hacked
[2016-12-22 11:09:12] pause88 : oof 58k
[2016-12-22 11:09:15] klee : 1.5m in hot wallet
[2016-12-22 11:10:06] l3f : klee: proof?
[2016-12-22 11:10:16] thiago : klee: that was like 20 hours ago
[2016-12-22 11:10:17] anonymous789 : inded where's the proof
[2016-12-22 11:10:38] thiago : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1724776.0
[2016-12-22 11:10:46] rms : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5jk8t0/btc38_hacked/ ? seems like old news
[2016-12-22 11:11:05] immackay : what a ride boys
[2016-12-22 11:11:26] rms : 1.5M RMB is like 20000
[2016-12-22 11:11:29] ett1 : BTFD
[2016-12-22 11:11:55] l3f : literally nothing
[2016-12-22 11:11:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20000 @ 856.94
[2016-12-22 11:11:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 498 @ 857.53
[2016-12-22 11:12:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 854.89
[2016-12-22 11:12:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 3001 @ 6040.7
[2016-12-22 11:12:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 1 @ 6028.7 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-22 11:12:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 3046 @ 6025.4
[2016-12-22 11:13:07] anonymous789 : o.O maybe it is a dump
[2016-12-22 11:13:28] anonymous789 : does seem low volume though
[2016-12-22 11:13:58] immackay : cock
[2016-12-22 11:14:14] anonymous789 : lol 310k buy at 850