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[2016-12-22 06:27:17] zanza : whats up ith FCT?
[2016-12-22 06:27:49] startChat : 6000
[2016-12-22 06:27:52] mjones : Wow
[2016-12-22 06:27:56] aethlios : wake up, movement
[2016-12-22 06:28:00] mjones : Pump
[2016-12-22 06:28:21] l3f : I won't touch eth until btc's finished pumping
[2016-12-22 06:30:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 33351 @ 849.08
[2016-12-22 06:30:15] aethlios : short sellers for the 3month trapped, no depth to buy back. soon liq will start
[2016-12-22 06:30:48] l3f : jesus 6 dollar spread
[2016-12-22 06:31:00] l3f : madness
[2016-12-22 06:31:05] aethlios : 2250 open interest
[2016-12-22 06:31:13] herpinator : merry christmas
[2016-12-22 06:31:26] l3f : hell yeah son
[2016-12-22 06:31:57] KingTuna : IMO whales want this to get to $1000 to create media frenzy, FOMO and speculation
[2016-12-22 06:32:11] KingTuna : There is no reason they would have inflated price this high and stop shy
[2016-12-22 06:32:22] KingTuna : But what do I know, I am also speculating
[2016-12-22 06:32:23] l3f : it can't be stopped now
[2016-12-22 06:32:28] l3f : (famous last words)
[2016-12-22 06:32:38] l3f : but if it retraces FOMOer's will eat it up
[2016-12-22 06:33:04] m3s : l3f: ye will retrace like yesterday to 820 :D
[2016-12-22 06:33:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 60 @ 849.66
[2016-12-22 06:36:17] shiroe : Does it want 888? :D
[2016-12-22 06:36:24] mjones : lol hehehehe
[2016-12-22 06:36:32] mjones : i had to long old quarterly to get back in
[2016-12-22 06:36:39] mjones : shame on me for closing my long in H17
[2016-12-22 06:37:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 852.01
[2016-12-22 06:37:23] l3f : mjones: need more blood sacrifices
[2016-12-22 06:37:33] mjones : should have longed when MM came back at 891 o well
[2016-12-22 06:38:05] PARAFFIN : unbelivable
[2016-12-22 06:38:29] PARAFFIN : this is just crazy what btc does
[2016-12-22 06:38:52] PARAFFIN : this steady growth the last day
[2016-12-22 06:39:06] startChat : exponential
[2016-12-22 06:39:11] PARAFFIN : yes
[2016-12-22 06:39:11] Apocalyptic : PARAFFIN: clearly you weren't here in 2013
[2016-12-22 06:39:21] PARAFFIN : i was here!!!
[2016-12-22 06:39:29] PARAFFIN : i made much §§
[2016-12-22 06:39:32] PARAFFIN : $$
[2016-12-22 06:39:48] PARAFFIN : longed in plus500
[2016-12-22 06:39:53] Apocalyptic : then you know, nothing unbelievable here
[2016-12-22 06:39:59] aethlios : haha, still btc quiet, wait to get nasty.
[2016-12-22 06:40:10] Apocalyptic : and it's far from over
[2016-12-22 06:40:16] PARAFFIN : will that happen again?
[2016-12-22 06:40:58] l3f : I can say it will be ... apocalyptic
[2016-12-22 06:42:00] Apocalyptic : l3f: heh
[2016-12-22 06:43:57] shiroe : Some fomo triggered on china.
[2016-12-22 06:45:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 200 @ 0.004360
[2016-12-22 06:46:45] aethlios : still okcoin futures bearish, biweekly no premium at all.
[2016-12-22 06:47:51] mjones : bitmex old quarterly only has 2 dollar premium
[2016-12-22 06:48:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 31 @ 0.001336
[2016-12-22 06:48:52] aethlios : this is west buying, china not yet in the pump game.
[2016-12-22 06:48:53] mjones : H17 premium is insane. shorters trap
[2016-12-22 06:50:45] shiroe : damn i dont know if i will take profit from 800. lmfao
[2016-12-22 06:52:08] immackay : shiroe: did you short?
[2016-12-22 06:52:40] shiroe : immackay: long
[2016-12-22 06:52:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 706 @ 907.19
[2016-12-22 06:52:58] immackay : oh shit haha
[2016-12-22 06:53:28] Apocalyptic : shiroe: "hodl to the moon" as they would say
[2016-12-22 06:53:52] shiroe : Apocalyptic: i am. no retrace yet. :D profit for all
[2016-12-22 06:55:21] shiroe : The sells are larger on houbi yet it ends up green.
[2016-12-22 06:55:48] shiroe : 300+ sell, single digit buys. weird.
[2016-12-22 06:56:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1 @ 0.008830
[2016-12-22 06:57:39] l3f : 900 tomorrow?
[2016-12-22 06:57:57] PARAFFIN : yee
[2016-12-22 06:58:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1500 @ 854.22
[2016-12-22 06:58:45] PARAFFIN : o.O
[2016-12-22 06:59:09] PARAFFIN : crazy
[2016-12-22 07:01:01] Apocalyptic : $7 spread now stamp/finex
[2016-12-22 07:01:03] fuckshitstack : next five minutes will be the cheapest coins until the end of time
[2016-12-22 07:01:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8100 @ 854.72
[2016-12-22 07:01:32] l3f : lol
[2016-12-22 07:01:38] shiroe : wut.
[2016-12-22 07:01:39] l3f : don't get too excited bois
[2016-12-22 07:01:46] mjones : takes skill to get rekt on a long
[2016-12-22 07:01:59] l3f : it takes a lot of skill to lose money in a bulltrend
[2016-12-22 07:03:09] PARAFFIN : germany opened ?
[2016-12-22 07:03:19] MrRGnome : 100x leverage: not even once
[2016-12-22 07:04:38] l3f : HAHAH
[2016-12-22 07:04:43] l3f : 10 dollar spread
[2016-12-22 07:04:47] l3f : what the fat
[2016-12-22 07:04:49] l3f : fuck*
[2016-12-22 07:05:16] mjones : just stick to the old quarterly
[2016-12-22 07:05:27] mjones : unless this dumps hard then fomo short H17
[2016-12-22 07:06:26] shiroe : smells like fomo is over.
[2016-12-22 07:14:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 540 @ 856.69
[2016-12-22 07:15:35] MrRGnome : shiroe: better check your nose, it ain't working
[2016-12-22 07:16:04] shiroe : MrRGnome: ha! just seeing the per second transactions of houbi on the bitcoinwisdom.
[2016-12-22 07:16:27] Apocalyptic : shiroe: impatient for a retrace are we ?
[2016-12-22 07:16:50] KingTuna : Really isn't far from the ATH
[2016-12-22 07:16:53] shiroe : Apocalyptic: a bit, so i can exit my long.
[2016-12-22 07:17:27] MrRGnome : I really want to short but I am scared shitless of the inevitable monster bear trap.
[2016-12-22 07:17:50] shiroe : 500 sells, 1k sells, 1 btc buy. wtf haha
[2016-12-22 07:18:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 700 @ 0.002973
[2016-12-22 07:19:46] shiroe : MrRGnome: same.
[2016-12-22 07:20:11] shiroe : bear or bull trap. hmp
[2016-12-22 07:20:58] Apocalyptic : just go ahead guys, short it and be like viptrader later
[2016-12-22 07:21:09] l3f : Apocalyptic: what happened to viptrader?
[2016-12-22 07:21:15] l3f : mother of god
[2016-12-22 07:21:17] Apocalyptic : fighting the ticker is madness
[2016-12-22 07:21:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 25000 @ 859.88
[2016-12-22 07:21:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 400 @ 860.31
[2016-12-22 07:21:23] MrRGnome : Look at that beautiful bump.
[2016-12-22 07:21:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 8000 @ 861.57
[2016-12-22 07:21:36] l3f : I LOVE THE SMELL OF LIQUIDATIONS IN THE MORNING
[2016-12-22 07:21:55] Apocalyptic : l3f: he's calling for a dump in ALL CAPS in this chatbox every now and then
[2016-12-22 07:22:11] Apocalyptic : you can literally feel his pain
[2016-12-22 07:22:20] MrRGnome : bahahaha
[2016-12-22 07:22:21] l3f : I can't
[2016-12-22 07:22:32] PatioCrasher : unrealized PNL : 0.1337 XBT LEET TRADER BOIYS
[2016-12-22 07:22:35] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2016-12-22 07:22:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2100 @ 862.94
[2016-12-22 07:22:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 500 @ 866.55
[2016-12-22 07:22:38] MrRGnome : The only way it would be better is if rapidtrades was in here crying about a short at 800
[2016-12-22 07:22:53] l3f : wtf is with this manipulated market
[2016-12-22 07:22:57] Apocalyptic : MrRGnome: rapid only shorts ZEC
[2016-12-22 07:23:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 10000 @ 917.91
[2016-12-22 07:23:03] l3f : ~ rapidaids
[2016-12-22 07:23:14] Apocalyptic : oh wait, he longs ZEC actually
[2016-12-22 07:23:22] startChat : Keep it rekting
[2016-12-22 07:23:27] MrRGnome : I remember him having a fit about the 10btc cap.
[2016-12-22 07:23:39] Apocalyptic : he famously longed at 3 BTC
[2016-12-22 07:23:53] Apocalyptic : rumour has it he's been holding ever since
[2016-12-22 07:24:05] startChat : probably 1 ZEC
[2016-12-22 07:24:15] MrRGnome : I wouldn't be surprised.
[2016-12-22 07:24:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 27859 @ 865.06
[2016-12-22 07:24:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 10 @ 922.31
[2016-12-22 07:24:24] MrRGnome : holy houbi
[2016-12-22 07:24:28] Coconuter : why is my leverage keeps dropping as it goes up
[2016-12-22 07:24:51] l3f : Coconuter: because your margin is denominated in usd but it takes btc
[2016-12-22 07:24:52] l3f : so as btc goes up
[2016-12-22 07:24:55] l3f : it takes less margin
[2016-12-22 07:25:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 700 @ 0.002834
[2016-12-22 07:25:09] Coconuter : no more mofos shorting it
[2016-12-22 07:25:14] Coconuter : so i earn less
[2016-12-22 07:25:15] MrRGnome : well explained
[2016-12-22 07:25:17] Coconuter : god damn it
[2016-12-22 07:25:21] Coconuter : SHORT PLEASE
[2016-12-22 07:25:29] Coconuter : i want MOAAAR
[2016-12-22 07:25:29] l3f : this is top now guys
[2016-12-22 07:25:37] MrRGnome : lolol
[2016-12-22 07:25:40] l3f : as an expert on tops
[2016-12-22 07:25:44] MrRGnome : If you're sure you should short
[2016-12-22 07:25:46] Apocalyptic : l3f: I lol'd
[2016-12-22 07:25:46] l3f : I assure you, now would be a good entry
[2016-12-22 07:25:54] MrRGnome : Yeah I also assure you
[2016-12-22 07:26:04] l3f : 9.2122 XBT (114.40%)
[2016-12-22 07:26:07] l3f : not even fucking mad
[2016-12-22 07:26:22] startChat : what contract
[2016-12-22 07:26:24] MrRGnome : Not enough to do it myself, all my money is on route from a nigerean prince. But everyone else should short.
[2016-12-22 07:26:27] l3f : H17
[2016-12-22 07:27:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 2 @ 6128.2 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-22 07:27:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: sell 210 @ 6118.7
[2016-12-22 07:27:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 4000 @ 862.25
[2016-12-22 07:27:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: sell 500 @ 861.62
[2016-12-22 07:27:41] herpinator : wew lad
[2016-12-22 07:27:47] l3f : bois
[2016-12-22 07:27:49] startChat : shake out
[2016-12-22 07:27:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 700 @ 859.55
[2016-12-22 07:27:58] Apocalyptic : boys longing at x100
[2016-12-22 07:28:04] Apocalyptic : what can go wrong
[2016-12-22 07:28:10] l3f : I said it was top guys
[2016-12-22 07:28:12] l3f : nobody believed me
[2016-12-22 07:28:17] startChat : quickly bought up
[2016-12-22 07:28:20] startChat : there is no top
[2016-12-22 07:29:08] shiroe : the bear attacks :)
[2016-12-22 07:29:11] startChat : and.. its gone
[2016-12-22 07:29:16] shiroe : Finally haha
[2016-12-22 07:29:17] mjones : man
[2016-12-22 07:29:23] mjones : i step away from computer and it dumps
[2016-12-22 07:29:29] shiroe : damn
[2016-12-22 07:30:01] shery : who the fuck closed long??
[2016-12-22 07:30:12] shiroe : someone even stopped his factom bot.
[2016-12-22 07:30:17] Apocalyptic : sleger most likely
[2016-12-22 07:30:28] startChat : much better money to be made
[2016-12-22 07:30:44] shiroe : closed my long as well, i am out for now.
[2016-12-22 07:31:27] immackay : I wonder if rapidtrades is done yet
[2016-12-22 07:31:42] ett1 : lol
[2016-12-22 07:31:50] ett1 : hes still in denial i think
[2016-12-22 07:32:02] ett1 : waiting for that 20% retrace
[2016-12-22 07:32:06] Apocalyptic : immackay: don't tell me here's short
[2016-12-22 07:32:14] Apocalyptic : *he's
[2016-12-22 07:32:20] shiroe : Beautiful cup and handle on 1 week btc chart
[2016-12-22 07:32:48] MrRGnome : immackay: please tell me he's short
[2016-12-22 07:33:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1460 @ 0.008710
[2016-12-22 07:33:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 639 @ 0.008670
[2016-12-22 07:33:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 721 @ 0.008670
[2016-12-22 07:33:18] immackay : @MrRGnome @Apocalyptic guys it's gonna retrace
[2016-12-22 07:33:29] startChat : right........now
[2016-12-22 07:33:30] shiroe : Stop limit is a blessing.
[2016-12-22 07:33:30] m3s : immackay: or it wont
[2016-12-22 07:34:07] MrRGnome : it will retrace at some point, but it won't matter. it wil create a new floor at a much higher point than it was a week ago and the up trend will continue
[2016-12-22 07:34:23] startChat : shiroe: or bot dinner
[2016-12-22 07:34:46] Apocalyptic : immackay: serious retrace you got there
[2016-12-22 07:35:23] ett1 : rapidtrades https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder60/500x/74168060.jpg
[2016-12-22 07:35:57] shiroe : startChat: saves me a lot more :)
[2016-12-22 07:35:58] immackay : somehow I feel like you guys didn't get my sarcasm
[2016-12-22 07:36:06] l3f : ett1: any time now
[2016-12-22 07:36:21] mjones : lol bitfinex hit another new high just now
[2016-12-22 07:36:35] startChat : Alltime?
[2016-12-22 07:37:03] rms : so is okcoin's pump bot on now?
[2016-12-22 07:37:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 100 @ 862.96
[2016-12-22 07:38:09] startChat : rms: finex last time
[2016-12-22 07:38:19] startChat : go ETh go
[2016-12-22 07:38:57] l3f : this is so stupid
[2016-12-22 07:39:08] l3f : I enter H17 contract @ 850
[2016-12-22 07:39:17] l3f : and swap is already 860
[2016-12-22 07:39:25] l3f : oh lawd
[2016-12-22 07:40:48] mjones : bitfinex barely any support and it isnt dumping
[2016-12-22 07:42:45] narnarfromnarnia : what is H17?
[2016-12-22 07:42:54] narnarfromnarnia : 1hr?
[2016-12-22 07:43:01] startChat : cat virus
[2016-12-22 07:43:16] Bosails : startChat: lol
[2016-12-22 07:43:29] narnarfromnarnia : mother of all dumps coming
[2016-12-22 07:43:31] laisee : catscratchfever
[2016-12-22 07:43:36] startChat : narnarfromnarnia: its the march 31 future
[2016-12-22 07:43:38] shiroe : slide!
[2016-12-22 07:43:47] narnarfromnarnia : thanks
[2016-12-22 07:43:54] narnarfromnarnia : startChat: thanks
[2016-12-22 07:44:40] narnarfromnarnia : dumps gonna come on 1hr?
[2016-12-22 07:44:53] mjones : No dumps
[2016-12-22 07:45:09] mjones : Few profit takers is all
[2016-12-22 07:45:16] imapotato : I've entered a small margin long for the first time in... probably a year at least.
[2016-12-22 07:45:18] narnarfromnarnia : and restock again probably
[2016-12-22 07:45:19] mjones : Dip buying strong
[2016-12-22 07:45:19] imapotato : Should be safe to dump at this time.
[2016-12-22 07:45:22] KingTuna : still looks alright and healthy to me
[2016-12-22 07:45:25] l3f : mjones: just what currency do you think you are trading?
[2016-12-22 07:45:29] startChat : imapotato: thanks for the warning
[2016-12-22 07:45:37] shery : No need to dump guys
[2016-12-22 07:45:50] ett1 : lil im 170% ROE. still holding
[2016-12-22 07:45:52] laisee : best time to dumo is when ...
[2016-12-22 07:45:56] narnarfromnarnia : they did eat up quite a bit on finex a moment ago
[2016-12-22 07:46:09] narnarfromnarnia : i have to re-enter there and transfer over here
[2016-12-22 07:46:10] mjones : Exchanges should just remove the sell buttons. Only buying from now on
[2016-12-22 07:46:45] ett1 : i think bitfinex could do that to their customers
[2016-12-22 07:47:33] laisee : replace 'SELL' with 'TURBO BUY' button
[2016-12-22 07:47:44] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: not gonna take profits?
[2016-12-22 07:47:57] imapotato : So what's the consensus? Start of the next BTC "bubble", or just a temporary spike amid the slow climb of the last year?
[2016-12-22 07:48:13] ett1 : its like a career hedge. if it keeps going up ive missed my chance to get it
[2016-12-22 07:48:13] immackay : imapotato: temporary spike
[2016-12-22 07:48:21] laisee : Its a pre-Xmas gift from Bitcoin Inc.
[2016-12-22 07:48:26] ett1 : if i blow up noe, ill have time later to buy in below 800 probs
[2016-12-22 07:48:35] ett1 : it could go to $3k soon
[2016-12-22 07:48:36] ett1 : so fuck it
[2016-12-22 07:48:49] imapotato : /me gently caresses it
[2016-12-22 07:49:41] ett1 : it coud stay above 800 so ill see what happens. not taking profits yet. very discretionary since im leverage, but the 800 breakout was my reasonong
[2016-12-22 07:51:12] imapotato : I'm going to sleep on the margin long. gl me.
[2016-12-22 07:51:29] KingTuna : resistance did break - Around 6150 CNY
[2016-12-22 07:51:44] KingTuna : So I think a bit of consolidation and them higher
[2016-12-22 07:52:03] KingTuna : 7010 next point
[2016-12-22 07:52:14] l3f : this is getting stupidier by the minute
[2016-12-22 07:52:14] l3f : but fuck it
[2016-12-22 07:52:15] l3f : all in
[2016-12-22 07:52:25] l3f : feel my brain cells dying
[2016-12-22 07:52:32] l3f : standard pump
[2016-12-22 07:52:34] j8 : still tame by bitcoin standards
[2016-12-22 07:52:35] immackay : l3f: mine fried last night
[2016-12-22 07:52:50] narnarfromnarnia : how do you know when contracts are closed automatically is there a daily time?
[2016-12-22 07:53:11] narnarfromnarnia : oh i see it
[2016-12-22 07:53:12] narnarfromnarnia : durr
[2016-12-22 07:53:55] Apocalyptic : l3f: surrender to the pumping deamon
[2016-12-22 07:58:22] j8 : kill -9 pumpd
[2016-12-22 07:59:10] tb : pkill
[2016-12-22 07:59:13] laisee : && nohup selld --MAX
[2016-12-22 07:59:19] l3f : pumpd is actually a zombie process
[2016-12-22 07:59:34] l3f : nobody collected its return code
[2016-12-22 07:59:36] l3f : still hanging
[2016-12-22 08:00:32] justinlooking : nice -n-20 niced
[2016-12-22 08:00:44] justinlooking : *pumpd
[2016-12-22 08:00:48] rms : does REP have any resistance at its all time low or is it dead?
[2016-12-22 08:00:57] rms : MM bots there died
[2016-12-22 08:01:03] l3f : where's the stoploss placements fuccbois?
[2016-12-22 08:01:49] laisee : look at ur liquidation price, its there
[2016-12-22 08:02:03] laisee : :-(
[2016-12-22 08:02:10] l3f : 786
[2016-12-22 08:03:00] tb : Mine is 1205
[2016-12-22 08:03:05] tb : Hopefully it never gets there
[2016-12-22 08:03:38] l3f : I need it in case it shits down and I need to de leverage
[2016-12-22 08:03:49] l3f : I aint no bagholder
[2016-12-22 08:08:04] narnarfromnarnia : the funding timer at the top, what happens when that's over?
[2016-12-22 08:08:11] narnarfromnarnia : are positions closed automatically?
[2016-12-22 08:08:18] l3f : you pay interest
[2016-12-22 08:08:23] l3f : you positions stay
[2016-12-22 08:08:33] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: no, moneys taken out your wallet balance
[2016-12-22 08:08:41] narnarfromnarnia : ok i thought it just takes interest while trade is open
[2016-12-22 08:08:47] ett1 : its your realised loss will nudge up
[2016-12-22 08:08:56] l3f : it takes interest when the timer hits
[2016-12-22 08:09:00] ett1 : yes the trade stays open
[2016-12-22 08:09:02] l3f : so you can exit before it takes the interest
[2016-12-22 08:09:04] narnarfromnarnia : can we sit in just fiat on here?
[2016-12-22 08:09:12] l3f : there's no fiat in here
[2016-12-22 08:09:14] l3f : only bitcoin
[2016-12-22 08:09:23] narnarfromnarnia : so you always have to have a position open
[2016-12-22 08:09:29] rms : you can sit in BTC on here
[2016-12-22 08:09:44] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: you need to put a -1x short on
[2016-12-22 08:09:49] narnarfromnarnia : right
[2016-12-22 08:09:56] aethlios : narnarfromnarnia: you can sell swap or 3month contract the amount of btc you deposited, so you are in fiat.
[2016-12-22 08:10:00] ett1 : then you will be the same as having USD
[2016-12-22 08:10:11] narnarfromnarnia : oh that's good
[2016-12-22 08:10:14] rms : +++++counterparty risk
[2016-12-22 08:10:23] ett1 : you should get paid the interest this way (in normal circumstances)
[2016-12-22 08:10:32] rms : but bitmex's security practice of once a day withdrawals seems like best in industry
[2016-12-22 08:10:38] l3f : rms: :^))))
[2016-12-22 08:10:44] l3f : how about no withdrawals
[2016-12-22 08:10:47] l3f : that's safest
[2016-12-22 08:10:55] aethlios : narnarfromnarnia: and earn an interest in usd, so if short now march you get 6.2% for 100 days
[2016-12-22 08:11:06] l3f : have to send a paper mail to their offices
[2016-12-22 08:11:11] j8 : it's like having sketchy usd that could be converted to btc for you (auto-deleveraging) but you get much higher interest than with usd
[2016-12-22 08:11:25] startChat : the pump is on
[2016-12-22 08:11:28] narnarfromnarnia : interesting
[2016-12-22 08:11:37] narnarfromnarnia : which pump
[2016-12-22 08:11:43] ett1 : l3f: and provide ID & proofs of address, notarised
[2016-12-22 08:11:49] narnarfromnarnia : btc should retrace a bit from here i'd imagine
[2016-12-22 08:11:54] l3f : ett1: aye
[2016-12-22 08:12:05] rms : usa and china prices are narrowing, which probably means retrace or stabilize in this range
[2016-12-22 08:12:13] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: provide all that for what?
[2016-12-22 08:12:14] rms : if china pumps to +25 again we back on
[2016-12-22 08:12:31] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: were joking around
[2016-12-22 08:12:36] narnarfromnarnia : okay
[2016-12-22 08:12:38] shiroe : If this goes 870, ill short. Base on history, every dec 25 there is a dump / profit taking
[2016-12-22 08:13:11] narnarfromnarnia : today was nuts the price bounced $10 easily but other exchanges stood still
[2016-12-22 08:13:13] narnarfromnarnia : trying to figure it out
[2016-12-22 08:13:36] ett1 : shiroe: lol
[2016-12-22 08:13:44] shery : shiroe: I strongly beleive that there will be a small correction today and big correction on 25
[2016-12-22 08:13:49] ett1 : theres only like 5 dats points in that sample
[2016-12-22 08:14:07] ett1 : i wouldnt bet on it
[2016-12-22 08:14:15] laisee : santa's Xmas dump
[2016-12-22 08:14:20] narnarfromnarnia : how do you guys trade just the interface or something like qt trader?
[2016-12-22 08:14:51] wurstgelee : monkeys. i train monkeys to execute my trades
[2016-12-22 08:14:52] l3f : trade with the web, and shit post in here
[2016-12-22 08:14:55] shiroe : Yes, there will be correction. Ive spent 2 Xmas experiencing it.
[2016-12-22 08:15:11] startChat : ok cool. ill long
[2016-12-22 08:15:14] startChat : just for santa
[2016-12-22 08:15:50] rapidtrades : premiums are tiny, speculators are not onboard with this shit
[2016-12-22 08:15:56] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: think they have charts open on another window
[2016-12-22 08:16:03] laisee : year end window dressing to come b4 31
[2016-12-22 08:16:19] l3f : ett1: I thought we were talking about trading, not battle stations
[2016-12-22 08:16:23] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: not charts but actual application, super easy to execute trades vs web browser
[2016-12-22 08:16:50] zanza : once a day attack is still vulnerable
[2016-12-22 08:16:52] narnarfromnarnia : this is exciting, i think i'll make back everything gox stole from me
[2016-12-22 08:17:03] zanza : they claim to use multisig here with different locations
[2016-12-22 08:17:20] zanza : how much leverage u on narnarfromnarnia ?
[2016-12-22 08:17:29] rapidtrades : narnarfromnarnia: I'm pretty sure u wont
[2016-12-22 08:17:44] zanza : it wouldn't be a Bitcoin rally without a major "hack" coming soon
[2016-12-22 08:17:45] l3f : zanza: lol knowing this startup, arthur has a key, sam has a key, they have a paper key
[2016-12-22 08:17:53] ett1 : there he is!
[2016-12-22 08:18:05] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: rapidtrades is a famous trader
[2016-12-22 08:18:08] l3f : well known in china
[2016-12-22 08:18:17] narnarfromnarnia : ok
[2016-12-22 08:18:19] l3f : tales of his exploits traveled' the world
[2016-12-22 08:18:21] zanza : and mongolia
[2016-12-22 08:18:39] narnarfromnarnia : rapidtrades: gox got some of your coins then?
[2016-12-22 08:18:53] l3f : he's made so much money all he does now is come here and give bad advice
[2016-12-22 08:18:59] ett1 : renowned for his aggressive style & calling retracements
[2016-12-22 08:19:02] Derreck : OMG BTC on the moon! And I closed my long XBTH17 position yesterday @ 880(((
[2016-12-22 08:19:22] l3f : Derreck: nobody went broke taking profits
[2016-12-22 08:19:23] l3f : all good
[2016-12-22 08:19:27] ett1 : and he doensnt need sleep
[2016-12-22 08:19:42] ett1 : kind of the perfect combo for trading bitcoin
[2016-12-22 08:20:03] l3f : expert on tops actually
[2016-12-22 08:20:20] startChat : bands getting tight,
[2016-12-22 08:20:20] Derreck : l3f: yeah I know! Just a bit of disappointment here
[2016-12-22 08:21:37] MrRGnome : You forgot the most important part about rapidtrades. He claims he is a lawyer! And a professional trader. Despite never being employed to do either.
[2016-12-22 08:22:36] startChat : bird law maybe
[2016-12-22 08:22:42] l3f : has bullying gone too far?
[2016-12-22 08:24:07] MrRGnome : Asked the victims of rapidtrades verbal abuse. He only gets it so bad because he has it coming.
[2016-12-22 08:24:47] MrRGnome : On any other site he would have been banned 100x over
[2016-12-22 08:24:47] startChat : broke up!
[2016-12-22 08:24:50] startChat : lets do it!
[2016-12-22 08:25:16] ett1 : MrRGnome: he textually abused me
[2016-12-22 08:25:56] narnarfromnarnia : i wish bitcoinwisdom has this on their site
[2016-12-22 08:26:09] j8 : all you new guys just don't appreciate rapidtrades' sense of humour.
[2016-12-22 08:26:55] micmix : exactly
[2016-12-22 08:26:57] l3f : j8: I do
[2016-12-22 08:27:15] l3f : he's a troll in his heart
[2016-12-22 08:27:17] thiago : fags
[2016-12-22 08:27:26] l3f : thiago: outta nowhere
[2016-12-22 08:27:38] startChat : more new highs finex
[2016-12-22 08:28:39] narnarfromnarnia : i forgot to hodl
[2016-12-22 08:29:08] j8 : you sodl
[2016-12-22 08:29:14] l3f : Look at the chinese chat
[2016-12-22 08:29:16] l3f : if you want a good laugh
[2016-12-22 08:29:51] startChat : WTF going on
[2016-12-22 08:29:55] thiago : who was the guy talking about simple fx?
[2016-12-22 08:31:30] startChat : What about it
[2016-12-22 08:31:39] KingTuna : The chinese want bigly out of the yen
[2016-12-22 08:31:41] KingTuna : Yuan*
[2016-12-22 08:31:46] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2016-12-22 08:31:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 19077 @ 863.63
[2016-12-22 08:32:03] ett1 : hahah i like that one REKT
[2016-12-22 08:32:08] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2016-12-22 08:32:11] narnarfromnarnia : here it comes
[2016-12-22 08:32:18] narnarfromnarnia : shorts being called now?
[2016-12-22 08:32:36] l3f : wtf i hate shorting now
[2016-12-22 08:33:03] ett1 : l3f: you went short?
[2016-12-22 08:33:29] l3f : shorting a pump would be the last thing I do
[2016-12-22 08:33:39] ett1 : :)
[2016-12-22 08:35:31] zfan : I feel the real money will be coming soon
[2016-12-22 08:35:35] zfan : https://twitter.com/BitfuryGeorge/status/811563784682819584
[2016-12-22 08:36:14] l3f : zfan: he's just a pumper
[2016-12-22 08:36:20] l3f : don't believe his lies
[2016-12-22 08:36:33] l3f : well I'd take it with a grain of salt
[2016-12-22 08:36:37] l3f : large one
[2016-12-22 08:36:45] zfan : lol, ok
[2016-12-22 08:37:05] immackay : who shorts bitcoin?
[2016-12-22 08:37:12] immackay : other than rapidtrades
[2016-12-22 08:37:22] coindork : i have a quick question if anyone can help
[2016-12-22 08:38:41] ett1 : immackay: Izabella Kaminska?
[2016-12-22 08:39:15] immackay : ett1: that went over my head
[2016-12-22 08:39:36] ett1 : the FT journalist always bashing it
[2016-12-22 08:40:18] immackay : oh yeah well most articles I see about bitcoin from msm are all doom and gloom
[2016-12-22 08:41:05] laisee : she writes clickbait trash about anything considered controversial
[2016-12-22 08:42:51] startChat : immackay: until we get fast growth
[2016-12-22 08:43:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: buy 2 @ 0.047979
[2016-12-22 08:43:38] ett1 : the bubble articles will be coming soon
[2016-12-22 08:43:47] ett1 : once were over 2k
[2016-12-22 08:44:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: buy 1 @ 0.049449
[2016-12-22 08:45:48] coindork : if my entry price is 911 and liq price is 897.55, how can my unrealized gain be less than 1% of my value when the mark is at 918?
[2016-12-22 08:47:24] j8 : 918 isn't 1% higher than 911
[2016-12-22 08:48:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: buy 1 @ 0.050286
[2016-12-22 08:48:53] coindork : and 897 isn't 100% lower than 911, but it liquidates at that price because of the leverage
[2016-12-22 08:50:18] PARAFFIN : such growth
[2016-12-22 08:50:55] j8 : couple things. there is 0.5% maintenance margin, so you are liquidated before you lose 100%. your PNL doesn't depend on leverage - just position size
[2016-12-22 08:51:32] coindork : PNL doesn't depend on leverage?
[2016-12-22 08:51:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: buy 20 @ 0.054021
[2016-12-22 08:52:15] immackay : coindork: nope
[2016-12-22 08:52:17] j8 : for a given position notional, leverage doesn't matter. it just changes your liquidation price by assigning more or less margin
[2016-12-22 08:52:50] l3f : lol zec
[2016-12-22 08:52:53] immackay : if I start with 1 btc, I can buy 1 btc worth of contracts with 1x leverage
[2016-12-22 08:53:46] immackay : or I can buy 100 btc worth of contracts with 100x
[2016-12-22 08:54:45] laisee : ZEC awakes ...
[2016-12-22 08:59:51] narnarfromnarnia : does anyone trade 100x normally or daily?
[2016-12-22 09:00:22] narnarfromnarnia : how do you even watch
[2016-12-22 09:00:56] DangerandPlay : OK, whatever your positions are... unbiased opinions please... Anyone think we're going to see bitcoin break 1,500 or even 2,000 in the next couple of weeks?
[2016-12-22 09:01:09] KingTuna : I think this pump in bitcoin is due to the Indians this time and not the chinese
[2016-12-22 09:01:21] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: watching doesnt help. are you goin got react when its down 50?
[2016-12-22 09:01:22] KingTuna : Demonitization efforts
[2016-12-22 09:01:34] KingTuna : Push bitcoin
[2016-12-22 09:01:42] KingTuna : pushing*
[2016-12-22 09:01:57] startChat : KingTuna: yes. pushed by west. awareness of cash being taken away is huge
[2016-12-22 09:02:21] KingTuna : startChat: By west?
[2016-12-22 09:02:28] DangerandPlay : what do you all think it's going to hit?
[2016-12-22 09:02:33] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: i would be trading shorter time frame
[2016-12-22 09:02:40] KingTuna : Oh in lieu of indian cash
[2016-12-22 09:02:43] DangerandPlay : are we gonna see a 2013-style pump? that would take it over 7,000 usd
[2016-12-22 09:02:59] startChat : nobody konws
[2016-12-22 09:03:03] ett1 : narnarfromnarnia: ye i wonder the same. i can really only think its for gambling
[2016-12-22 09:03:35] narnarfromnarnia : ett1: 10x seems fine though
[2016-12-22 09:04:11] ett1 : ye i think it depends. for day trading sure
[2016-12-22 09:04:37] ett1 : normally i dont leve, or would go 2-3x max
[2016-12-22 09:04:46] ett1 : but im at 20x today
[2016-12-22 09:04:48] ett1 : lol
[2016-12-22 09:05:29] narnarfromnarnia : yeah a whale dump could eat all those longs right about now but this volume is really high here
[2016-12-22 09:06:56] startChat : better to wait for more fish
[2016-12-22 09:07:09] startChat : *plankton
[2016-12-22 09:07:53] DangerandPlay : my liquidation price is 730
[2016-12-22 09:07:59] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.bfxdata.com/positions/btcusd
[2016-12-22 09:08:02] DangerandPlay : i've raised my stops to around 810
[2016-12-22 09:08:17] DangerandPlay : sorry 703, not 730
[2016-12-22 09:08:45] ett1 : my entry price 801.2 liq 775
[2016-12-22 09:09:02] ett1 : i think id exit around breakeven or before but trying to let it ride
[2016-12-22 09:10:04] rms : so who's betting against me on zcash futures? i can understand shorting dec 30th but trying to keep mar 31 below spot seems really expensive
[2016-12-22 09:10:12] ett1 : DangerandPlay: i think your safe. 700-730 was my 'safe' SL area before i went nuts
[2016-12-22 09:10:45] ett1 : dont think well go 10% below the breakout level
[2016-12-22 09:11:17] ett1 : 190% ROE
[2016-12-22 09:11:23] shery : where is the next resistance?
[2016-12-22 09:11:45] ett1 : 900? 1000? 1200? psychological levels
[2016-12-22 09:12:12] ett1 : what is was 6000 CNY in USD
[2016-12-22 09:12:49] ett1 : nvm
[2016-12-22 09:12:49] blacktuesday : xbtZ still trading below xbtusd price
[2016-12-22 09:14:00] DangerandPlay : ett1: hope you're right
[2016-12-22 09:14:16] DangerandPlay : my positions will close if we head towards 800
[2016-12-22 09:14:23] DangerandPlay : and i'll be happy with the modest profit i made
[2016-12-22 09:14:36] ett1 : ye i think we have a similar plan
[2016-12-22 09:15:06] shery : Bitcoin is till due for a correction , This rise without a correction doesnt look good
[2016-12-22 09:15:19] DangerandPlay : got in at 769 with 14,000 contracts
[2016-12-22 09:15:57] ett1 : i dont think its a smart idea to add any more
[2016-12-22 09:16:05] DangerandPlay : agree
[2016-12-22 09:16:06] ett1 : just let it ride and see
[2016-12-22 09:16:12] DangerandPlay : good luck bro!!!
[2016-12-22 09:16:23] ett1 : thx, you too
[2016-12-22 09:16:42] ett1 : got 10,0000 long
[2016-12-22 09:17:27] ett1 : 1btc profit
[2016-12-22 09:17:50] l3f : rms: zec's going to be failed pump
[2016-12-22 09:17:56] l3f : I'd short it if I wasn't all in btc now
[2016-12-22 09:18:33] l3f : my reason is two fold
[2016-12-22 09:18:45] l3f : net flow still negative
[2016-12-22 09:18:57] l3f : means more kids selling than buying
[2016-12-22 09:19:48] l3f : secondly zec supply will double again in two weeks
[2016-12-22 09:19:53] l3f : it'll get sold to zero
[2016-12-22 09:20:56] narnarfromnarnia : how does it double?
[2016-12-22 09:21:02] micmix : sure, sure, everyone has to short zec for infinite profits
[2016-12-22 09:21:09] ett1 : when this BTC rally is over, i might look at alts to short
[2016-12-22 09:21:17] rms : right, but why short far futures instead of the near futures?
[2016-12-22 09:21:28] l3f : rms: dunno
[2016-12-22 09:21:32] laisee : bigger profitz?
[2016-12-22 09:21:46] rms : but it's really far from spot already
[2016-12-22 09:22:00] rms : dunno
[2016-12-22 09:22:05] rms : guess we'll see
[2016-12-22 09:22:34] laisee : long dated contracts are more illiquid, esp on bmx. bigger gains/losses
[2016-12-22 09:22:43] narnarfromnarnia : anyone have a good chart to share on tradingview for xbtusd?