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[2016-12-20 15:44:57] ett1 : id just short ETH
[2016-12-20 15:45:20] l3f : from my analysis eth will be a decent buy in maybe 2 weeks
[2016-12-20 15:45:24] Rado : traders are just try to find the hardest way to make money
[2016-12-20 15:45:31] l3f : net volume growing, CPI growing
[2016-12-20 15:45:38] ett1 : but i sweat ETH foundation have a pump team that gets activated when btc dumps
[2016-12-20 15:45:45] ett1 : they try and fuel it
[2016-12-20 15:46:43] l3f : eth foundation got so much btc it isn't funny
[2016-12-20 15:46:59] ett1 : yes they sold the ETH for BTC
[2016-12-20 15:47:06] ett1 : nice scheme
[2016-12-20 15:47:19] sleger : Rado: how is your short usdjpy
[2016-12-20 15:47:25] arbitrage001 : l3f: high expectation also high disappointment should it fails
[2016-12-20 15:47:28] l3f : well they took millions of btc on ICO
[2016-12-20 15:47:35] ett1 : and distracted everyone to keep btc price low to give them time to buy up with their dumb pumblicity stunts
[2016-12-20 15:47:44] l3f : I bought at ICO
[2016-12-20 15:47:47] l3f : ahah
[2016-12-20 15:47:49] l3f : the first ICO
[2016-12-20 15:47:51] l3f : ever
[2016-12-20 15:47:56] l3f : (the eth one)
[2016-12-20 15:48:13] l3f : you know, it didn't used to be called ICO, it used to be called selling premines
[2016-12-20 15:48:14] ett1 : no i think NXT did a crowdfund but it was private
[2016-12-20 15:48:36] l3f : or you can take VC money
[2016-12-20 15:48:38] sleger : the next big coin will be Tezos
[2016-12-20 15:48:42] ett1 : but either way i guess it was innovative/they had balls
[2016-12-20 15:49:10] l3f : the deal with ICO is that if you it looks like pump fuel
[2016-12-20 15:49:12] l3f : then ball to the wall
[2016-12-20 15:49:20] ett1 : but they just put up vitalik some kid as the fall huy to take all the responsibility if they got into trouble
[2016-12-20 15:49:30] ett1 : i still dont understnd eitherium
[2016-12-20 15:49:31] l3f : ah well eth is complicated
[2016-12-20 15:49:38] ett1 : its just a programming language
[2016-12-20 15:49:41] ett1 : right?
[2016-12-20 15:50:12] l3f : on the block chain
[2016-12-20 15:50:21] ett1 : thats part of the fraud...just to mystify you with jargon and technicalities to dirtract from the core scam
[2016-12-20 15:50:31] l3f : I won't call it a scam
[2016-12-20 15:50:33] l3f : it is innovative
[2016-12-20 15:50:38] l3f : but I bought for pump
[2016-12-20 15:50:42] ett1 : which is very simple in essence
[2016-12-20 15:50:43] l3f : I'm sure there are hardcore believers
[2016-12-20 15:51:05] l3f : sleger: tell me about the pump, why does it stall at 790?
[2016-12-20 15:51:05] ett1 : its like the dot com bubble
[2016-12-20 15:51:10] ett1 : im not complaining
[2016-12-20 15:51:27] ett1 : i missed LTC and ETH. i shorted ETH at the top actually
[2016-12-20 15:51:42] ett1 : when it was like $1bn vs btc $6bn market cap
[2016-12-20 15:51:58] sleger : l3f: why would I know ?
[2016-12-20 15:52:24] l3f : sleger: I thought you rig the system and the market
[2016-12-20 15:52:32] sleger : unzoom your chart
[2016-12-20 15:52:35] sleger : nothing stalled
[2016-12-20 15:52:52] l3f : yeah I know it's in the channels, slowly moving up
[2016-12-20 15:53:03] ett1 : 780 was long term high peak
[2016-12-20 15:53:19] ett1 : its just playing near the level
[2016-12-20 15:54:45] ett1 : uncertainty for short term traders because its a major price zone
[2016-12-20 15:55:06] sleger : that swap has became so bearish
[2016-12-20 15:55:07] l3f : https://twitter.com/BitmexRekt/status/811219485927632896
[2016-12-20 15:55:09] l3f : nice it happened
[2016-12-20 15:55:22] l3f : I was expecting that line to come out sooner or later
[2016-12-20 15:55:38] l3f : sleger: yeah I was commenting on it
[2016-12-20 16:04:38] rapidtrades : I'm confused by self in python...read explanations online but stil confused
[2016-12-20 16:04:52] l3f : rapidtrades: have you used OOP before?
[2016-12-20 16:05:02] l3f : i.e. any OOP language such as java
[2016-12-20 16:05:02] sleger : rapidtrades: just put it everywhere
[2016-12-20 16:05:08] l3f : sleger: nooo
[2016-12-20 16:05:09] laisee : diff between class and object
[2016-12-20 16:05:25] l3f : self refers to the current instance
[2016-12-20 16:05:42] l3f : it's like using OOP paradigm in C
[2016-12-20 16:05:49] l3f : you pass the struct ptr in the first argument
[2016-12-20 16:06:06] l3f : if this is too hard then just kys
[2016-12-20 16:07:53] rapidtrades : laisee: what do u mean
[2016-12-20 16:08:57] laisee : a class is like a template in word, objects are created using the template. The self.???? attributes can be different, the other are same for all instances
[2016-12-20 16:09:50] sleger : i'm sure it's much more clear now
[2016-12-20 16:10:49] laisee : read this: https://pythontips.com/2013/08/07/the-self-variable-in-python-explained/
[2016-12-20 16:10:50] sleger : rapidtrades: https://pythontips.com/2013/08/07/the-self-variable-in-python-explained/
[2016-12-20 16:10:58] sleger : oh damn
[2016-12-20 16:11:01] rapidtrades : dam
[2016-12-20 16:11:29] l3f : laisee: sleger: the google first result hive mind
[2016-12-20 16:11:55] ett1 : if a trading system cant be created in ecel, its too complex
[2016-12-20 16:11:58] laisee : 1st
[2016-12-20 16:12:04] sleger : i saw some stackoverflow first but they werent very clear, that example is
[2016-12-20 16:12:42] rapidtrades : yeah the stackoverflow were shit
[2016-12-20 16:12:55] sleger : ett1: everything can be made in excel, it will just crash before finishing the calculation
[2016-12-20 16:12:57] laisee : ett1: gud luck with your excel bot
[2016-12-20 16:13:21] ett1 : hehe
[2016-12-20 16:13:48] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: can always hire someone to do the work for you
[2016-12-20 16:13:58] l3f : ett1: real quants use excel m80
[2016-12-20 16:14:04] l3f : don't let them shit on your dreams
[2016-12-20 16:14:50] sleger : excel is ok to plot the graph of the output of your c++ dll
[2016-12-20 16:14:57] laisee : excel 4.0 rocks
[2016-12-20 16:15:15] l3f : sleger: we have juypter notebook now
[2016-12-20 16:15:35] l3f : excel is deprecated
[2016-12-20 16:15:35] sleger : but that's for python
[2016-12-20 16:15:48] l3f : sleger: you can use other languages too
[2016-12-20 16:15:51] l3f : as long as they aren't shit
[2016-12-20 16:15:58] sleger : ok didnt know
[2016-12-20 16:16:03] laisee : VBA ok, then?
[2016-12-20 16:17:26] ett1 : write it in solidarity
[2016-12-20 16:19:15] l3f : sleger: what do you think of the CVI on btc?
[2016-12-20 16:19:22] ett1 : create a next generation bot that will disrupt finance as we know it
[2016-12-20 16:19:24] l3f : isn't that very suspecious?
[2016-12-20 16:20:13] ett1 : whats that, falling volume?
[2016-12-20 16:20:26] ett1 : theyre uncertainty till theres a meaningful breakout move
[2016-12-20 16:20:53] l3f : nah, constant, high volume
[2016-12-20 16:21:10] l3f : net volume rising as well on the buy side
[2016-12-20 16:21:25] ett1 : everything pointing bull to me
[2016-12-20 16:21:38] ett1 : it want to break 800
[2016-12-20 16:21:52] ett1 : it has to on the way to 10,000 or whatever. so it happening now
[2016-12-20 16:21:55] l3f : if it breaks 800 all hell breaks lose
[2016-12-20 16:21:57] laisee : else, dump
[2016-12-20 16:22:13] l3f : tbqh I don't really think so
[2016-12-20 16:22:22] l3f : it'll rise slow and steady like it's doing now
[2016-12-20 16:22:40] ett1 : look at when it broke 30
[2016-12-20 16:22:40] ett1 : or 250
[2016-12-20 16:23:07] ett1 : long term breaakouts. ok so were not at an ATH yet, but 780 is a 2 year high & basically the saem pattern
[2016-12-20 16:23:18] ett1 : we could pump to $3000 quite easily if it breaks
[2016-12-20 16:23:29] l3f : nah it's already past long term ATH
[2016-12-20 16:23:33] l3f : and still no money shot
[2016-12-20 16:23:36] thiago : Dow Jones 19998 o.0
[2016-12-20 16:23:47] ett1 : long ter, ATH is like $1200
[2016-12-20 16:24:31] ett1 : you you reallt think a mobe to $1000 is that crazy? its only 20%
[2016-12-20 16:24:46] ett1 : btc has made moves liek that in a day. wait till it builds some momentum
[2016-12-20 16:25:13] ett1 : not that i want this. id love for it to stay down bellow 500 but i cant fight the market
[2016-12-20 16:25:38] ett1 : BTC is going to 10,000 whether i want it to or not
[2016-12-20 16:25:38] l3f : ett1: nah I'm long H17 futures
[2016-12-20 16:25:41] l3f : so of course I think it'll rise
[2016-12-20 16:26:30] l3f : but I don't think it'll be expontential growth bubble pump'd right there
[2016-12-20 16:26:58] ett1 : its been on an exponential growth since birth. check the log chart
[2016-12-20 16:27:14] ett1 : slowing exponential growth, but still exponential long term
[2016-12-20 16:27:26] ett1 : might be the last chance to get in below 800
[2016-12-20 16:29:39] l3f : lol people's been selling the btc doesn't retrace bs for years
[2016-12-20 16:29:40] l3f : it always retraces
[2016-12-20 16:31:12] ett1 : after an all time high
[2016-12-20 16:32:19] ett1 : it wont retrance more than 10% if it breaks here. so like down to 730 maybe (if that low)
[2016-12-20 17:00:19] suriah : for some fucking retarded reason I fucked up my stop loss at 792
[2016-12-20 17:01:01] suriah : so now I liquidated what I worked hard for. Round of applause
[2016-12-20 17:01:51] rapidtrades : ett1: 20%
[2016-12-20 17:02:15] rapidtrades : so what do i do with the marketmaker file? just dump all into my python directory or what
[2016-12-20 17:03:07] rapidtrades : https://github.com/BitMEX/sample-market-maker
[2016-12-20 17:06:04] breadfan : python setup.py install
[2016-12-20 17:06:07] breadfan : ./marketmaker
[2016-12-20 17:09:01] rapidtrades : right...but so i should unzip the files to my python directory first? cos it has nothing to install
[2016-12-20 17:11:26] breadfan : no, just unzip it to somewhere, then from terminal cd into the directory where you unzipped it
[2016-12-20 17:11:40] breadfan : you know how to use terminal/cmd?
[2016-12-20 17:11:42] sleger : he probably uses windows
[2016-12-20 17:11:56] sleger : first step : format c:
[2016-12-20 17:12:02] breadfan : xD
[2016-12-20 17:12:05] sleger : second step : install a real OS
[2016-12-20 17:13:02] emperortrump : is it possible to set stop loss after a trade has been made here ?
[2016-12-20 17:13:24] rapidtrades : yeah i use windows
[2016-12-20 17:14:06] rapidtrades : nvm i think i figured it out
[2016-12-20 17:14:23] breadfan : well, if you know how to use the command prompt in windows, you just cd in the directory where you unzipped the python files, and run the two commands I mentioned, otherwise search online a bit how to use cmd and python
[2016-12-20 17:14:43] sleger : oh nice, quoine offered me $1000
[2016-12-20 17:15:26] sleger : rapidtrades: you have win 10 ?
[2016-12-20 17:17:01] laisee : sleger: they paying people for the "price issues"?
[2016-12-20 17:17:12] sleger : no not even that, some promotion
[2016-12-20 17:17:25] sleger : just need to trade 1000btc of volume between now and mar 20
[2016-12-20 17:17:36] rapidtrades : looool
[2016-12-20 17:17:48] sleger : which i would probably already do anyways
[2016-12-20 17:18:02] sleger : and they have zero fees...
[2016-12-20 17:18:22] rapidtrades : well that's dumb on their part
[2016-12-20 17:19:06] sleger : no it's nice
[2016-12-20 17:19:26] sleger : it's already in my account
[2016-12-20 17:19:35] sleger : although i had nothing left there
[2016-12-20 17:19:42] laisee : just pick one of their currencies with low vol and got for it ...
[2016-12-20 17:20:03] habibi : sleger: thx for info
[2016-12-20 17:20:11] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-12-20 17:20:30] sleger : habibi: terms and conditions (in small) says : doesnt apply to arabs
[2016-12-20 17:20:40] rapidtrades : habibi: wanna ping-pong in the indian rupee until we clear 1000 btc?
[2016-12-20 17:20:41] habibi : sleger: even better
[2016-12-20 17:21:11] habibi : rapidtrades: yea after new year we can do it, will be away for few weeks for now
[2016-12-20 17:21:13] sleger : i dont think it applies if you werent selected
[2016-12-20 17:21:21] rapidtrades : wtf
[2016-12-20 17:21:26] rapidtrades : f*ck u sleger
[2016-12-20 17:21:39] sleger : you think they would offer $1000 to anyone ?
[2016-12-20 17:21:52] sleger : no it's only for the already rich
[2016-12-20 17:22:00] sleger : quoine : make the rich richer
[2016-12-20 17:22:12] suriah : lol
[2016-12-20 17:22:27] rapidtrades : lame
[2016-12-20 17:22:35] suriah : how old are you people?
[2016-12-20 17:22:43] sleger : "As 2016 comes to an end, we would like to take this opportunity to tell you how much we appreciated your business with us this year. As a token of our appreciation, we are extending a $1,000 worth of bitcoin bonus to our loyal customers and guess what? You are one of them!"
[2016-12-20 17:22:52] sleger : it continues :
[2016-12-20 17:22:59] sleger : "rapidtrades and habibi are not one of them"
[2016-12-20 17:23:17] habibi : sleger: nice for them they supporting poor eth investors
[2016-12-20 17:23:39] sleger : i dont think poor eth investors are one of them either
[2016-12-20 17:25:06] sleger : are you all googling to see if you can get in ?
[2016-12-20 17:25:22] suriah : I need a trading mentor to help get my life on track. Willing to travel to learn. Wont suck dick but will walk the dog
[2016-12-20 17:26:06] sleger : suriah: i heard rapid recently acquired a couch
[2016-12-20 17:26:39] suriah : what country?
[2016-12-20 17:26:52] sleger : the united states of kingdom
[2016-12-20 17:26:54] suriah : knock knock @rapidtrades
[2016-12-20 17:26:59] laisee : and he has a 486Sx computer to trade on
[2016-12-20 17:28:09] suriah : will need about a week
[2016-12-20 17:30:01] sleger : oh price up what a non surprise
[2016-12-20 17:30:37] rapidtrades : it's up $3 in 48 hrs
[2016-12-20 17:31:06] sleger : it's also up 3$ in 5 minutes
[2016-12-20 17:31:07] ett1 : suriah: you arnt even willing to suck cock? show some enthusiasm
[2016-12-20 17:31:51] suriah : ett1: nah I dont think I can do it, prob could wind out a dutch rudder if we dont look in the eye
[2016-12-20 17:33:39] ett1 : i know youd suck a dick for 1btc, if your friends or parents wouldnt find out
[2016-12-20 17:34:20] sleger : please go to the chinese chat if you want to be gross
[2016-12-20 17:34:35] ett1 : hahaha ill stop
[2016-12-20 17:39:40] breadfan : how is the volume in quoine
[2016-12-20 17:39:45] breadfan : sleger
[2016-12-20 17:39:53] laisee : ZEC mooning today
[2016-12-20 17:42:05] suriah : sleger: are you the bot king here?
[2016-12-20 17:43:26] sleger : no
[2016-12-20 17:43:37] sleger : breadfan: its decent
[2016-12-20 17:43:44] sleger : you can probably check by yourself
[2016-12-20 17:43:50] sleger : assuming you have internet
[2016-12-20 17:46:17] breadfan : right
[2016-12-20 17:47:25] suriah : Theres an exchange ripe for the picking and some decent BTC to be made. I cant code a bot but I can give the exchange
[2016-12-20 17:48:04] suriah : you guys can clean up and in return one day give me a lesson
[2016-12-20 17:49:47] aaaaa : what do you want to say with ripe here?
[2016-12-20 17:50:40] aaaaa : may be it is absolutely clear but english is not my mother tongue so...
[2016-12-20 17:50:56] aaaaa : suriah:
[2016-12-20 17:51:25] suriah : awesome spread, decent volume, only 1-2 bots and plenty of mugs market buying
[2016-12-20 17:51:45] suriah : theres actually 2 that are doing this on a daily basis
[2016-12-20 17:51:49] laisee : suriah: where is this gld mine?
[2016-12-20 17:52:02] suriah : and often trade well above spot
[2016-12-20 17:53:03] suriah : I checked them out because I thought they were dodgy but its run by respected financial members and they have strong gov oversight so no shady shit
[2016-12-20 17:53:30] laisee : my panties getting wet .... where is this fab gold mine ripe for plucking?
[2016-12-20 17:53:30] suriah : one of the more legitimate exchanges in our crypto space
[2016-12-20 17:53:34] aaaaa : suriah: yes, where is that gold mine?
[2016-12-20 17:54:09] suriah : what good is it if 10 of you go and pillage it?
[2016-12-20 17:54:47] suriah : I will share it but you can teach me over time
[2016-12-20 17:55:49] laisee : can teach nw - buylosellhi
[2016-12-20 17:56:26] suriah : during aussie day time is best for stupid market buys clearing books
[2016-12-20 17:56:31] suriah : https://www.btcmarkets.net/
[2016-12-20 17:56:49] suriah : https://www.independentreserve.com/Market
[2016-12-20 17:57:16] suriah : look at past data, you wont be disappointed
[2016-12-20 18:00:12] suriah : found a few more of these gems around the world\
[2016-12-20 18:01:29] suriah : im going to sleep now. enjoy
[2016-12-20 18:05:39] sleger : why is it a gold mine ?
[2016-12-20 18:05:58] sleger : do you think you can sell bitcoin at 1093USD ?
[2016-12-20 18:07:58] thomaskikansha : AU$?
[2016-12-20 18:08:31] sleger : thats what i was trying to get at
[2016-12-20 18:08:37] sleger : he probably thought it's usd
[2016-12-20 18:13:32] BitMEX_Greg : I've met the guys at IR and they are good guys, but yeah you may be waiting all day for the order to be filled
[2016-12-20 18:51:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 3000 @ 0.003911
[2016-12-20 18:55:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 600 @ 0.001455
[2016-12-20 19:05:13] justinlooking : such long
[2016-12-20 19:05:37] justinlooking : bull balls
[2016-12-20 19:11:16] CaptainDean : that's what she said !
[2016-12-20 19:23:12] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5jcllc/first_german_fund_manager_acatis_5_bn_assets/
[2016-12-20 19:28:24] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: great news
[2016-12-20 19:46:58] bingbongfly : look at the fighting bots on ETC7d x)
[2016-12-20 20:18:21] mjones : etc dumping
[2016-12-20 20:22:55] mjones : zec pumping
[2016-12-20 21:29:27] cryptobull : finex added zec margin
[2016-12-20 21:39:06] habibi : BitMEX_Greg: http://prntscr.com/dlx8ja that needs little update
[2016-12-20 21:42:49] BitMEX_Greg : habibi: Thanks,
[2016-12-20 21:43:08] BitMEX_Greg : I believe we have hit the 3b milestone, need to double check
[2016-12-20 21:45:25] BitMEX_Greg : $3.15b
[2016-12-20 21:45:44] habibi : yep but its still not a half of current bitcoin market cap
[2016-12-20 21:47:37] BitMEX_Greg : Right, I think the price of Bitcoin has almost doubled since we added this statistic unfortunately
[2016-12-20 21:47:45] sleger : "nearly"
[2016-12-20 21:49:12] BitMEX_Greg : being the key word
[2016-12-20 22:18:17] aaaaa : to the moon!!!
[2016-12-20 22:20:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 400 @ 794.18
[2016-12-20 22:22:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 21950 @ 795.10
[2016-12-20 22:23:03] BitMEX_Greg : Whose going to be the first one here to print $800?
[2016-12-20 22:24:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.003798
[2016-12-20 22:28:52] thiago : zzzzzzzzzzzzz
[2016-12-20 22:31:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 65 @ 793.89
[2016-12-20 22:31:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 13490 @ 793.15
[2016-12-20 22:31:35] Adriana : Nice dump
[2016-12-20 22:31:45] mjones : lol china
[2016-12-20 22:32:13] thiago : ho ho ho
[2016-12-20 22:32:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 11650 @ 790.91
[2016-12-20 22:34:33] Adriana : I think this is a beginning of a short term downtrend
[2016-12-20 22:38:43] aethlios : always the same fakeout, scummy Chinese
[2016-12-20 22:42:20] Adriana : If break 800 within next 48 hours it is going to be a miracle. I don't think it's possible with such a pathetic volume
[2016-12-20 22:42:31] cookielito : Gentlemen prepare yourselves
[2016-12-20 22:42:42] cookielito : there will be no stopping this puppy when it breaks 800
[2016-12-20 22:43:31] sleger : read between the lines : ----------------------------------- you're an idiot -----------------------------------
[2016-12-20 22:44:54] BitMEX_Sam : lol, sorry, formatting stripped that
[2016-12-20 22:44:58] BitMEX_Sam : but we laughed.
[2016-12-20 22:45:51] sleger : I figured. Worked as well without anyway
[2016-12-20 22:46:56] aethlios : looks like this slow up trend low volume is a result of physical demand buying from exchanges and withdrawing. speculators don't move the price like that, but physical demand could bring the price to a very important pivot price where speculators will jump in with massive volume, and this could happen if 800 breaks.
[2016-12-20 22:52:39] KingTuna : To me it looks like it is price is creeping up very slowly , so then it can do a massive volume move well above $800 to close out 2016. Unless it edges very close to fool everyone and whales dump their loads like no tomorrow lol
[2016-12-20 23:03:42] KingTuna : That was definitely no fake-out lol
[2016-12-20 23:03:49] cookielito : here we go
[2016-12-20 23:03:57] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2016-12-20 23:03:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3000 @ 795.45
[2016-12-20 23:03:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1 @ 795.50 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-20 23:03:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 21000 @ 795.67
[2016-12-20 23:03:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 11 @ 795.55
[2016-12-20 23:03:59] KingTuna : here we go
[2016-12-20 23:04:45] aethlios : many stop losses i guess above 801
[2016-12-20 23:05:02] tb : what the fuck is going on
[2016-12-20 23:05:55] aethlios : swap getting nasty, great REAL volume
[2016-12-20 23:06:13] thiago : https://youtu.be/WyF8RHM1OCg?t=1m15s
[2016-12-20 23:07:44] aethlios : kraken euro btc only 20 usd behind
[2016-12-20 23:10:50] cookielito : this is gonna be very fun
[2016-12-20 23:10:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 12395 @ 796.50
[2016-12-20 23:11:43] aethlios : party begins above 1,200. cavalry will arrive and start the 2 year bull market of the decade to 50,000 usd, then 8 years correction and consolidation.
[2016-12-20 23:12:22] KingTuna : hahaha
[2016-12-20 23:12:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 46200 @ 797.30
[2016-12-20 23:12:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 44235 @ 797.42
[2016-12-20 23:12:39] KingTuna : wow rekt
[2016-12-20 23:12:41] BitMEX_Greg : We have hit $800!
[2016-12-20 23:12:41] cookielito : there we go boys
[2016-12-20 23:12:41] aethlios : it's happening
[2016-12-20 23:12:42] cookielito : 800
[2016-12-20 23:13:18] l3f : IT'S HAPPENING
[2016-12-20 23:13:27] l3f : IS YOUR BODY READ
[2016-12-20 23:13:36] l3f : READY*
[2016-12-20 23:13:43] Apocalyptic : aethlios: solid analysis
[2016-12-20 23:14:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 8 @ 798.74
[2016-12-20 23:14:19] aethlios : Apocalyptic: you can call me a dreamer but i'm not the only one.
[2016-12-20 23:14:46] l3f : haha wtf was that
[2016-12-20 23:14:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 799.18
[2016-12-20 23:14:57] l3f : 807 buy
[2016-12-20 23:15:12] Apocalyptic : China getting crazy
[2016-12-20 23:15:16] aethlios : Apocalyptic: https://www.tradingview.com/x/QAt7ES1s/ posted that many days before
[2016-12-20 23:15:31] badsanta : wtf
[2016-12-20 23:15:31] justinlooking : dafuq
[2016-12-20 23:15:35] l3f : OH LAWD
[2016-12-20 23:15:38] badsanta : i accidentally closed some of my long
[2016-12-20 23:15:47] badsanta : at 5468 on the cny quarterly
[2016-12-20 23:15:49] l3f : badsanta: not a bad idea
[2016-12-20 23:15:50] YOLO : DAT GREEN DILDO
[2016-12-20 23:16:00] badsanta : you dont understand
[2016-12-20 23:16:04] thiago : not so fast bitches
[2016-12-20 23:16:08] badsanta : i closed it at 5468 on the new quarterly
[2016-12-20 23:16:14] badsanta : for a loss
[2016-12-20 23:16:24] badsanta : cause i thought it was 5968
[2016-12-20 23:16:29] badsanta : WTF
[2016-12-20 23:16:30] justinlooking : laggy as fuck
[2016-12-20 23:16:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 1603 @ 0.003683
[2016-12-20 23:16:52] badsanta : look at bitcoin /yuan march futures
[2016-12-20 23:17:18] Apocalyptic : badsanta: you dumped this much ?
[2016-12-20 23:17:26] badsanta : no liquidity
[2016-12-20 23:17:35] Apocalyptic : oh nvm it's just 2k
[2016-12-20 23:17:45] badsanta : i used market sell lol
[2016-12-20 23:17:48] l3f : inb4 dump
[2016-12-20 23:17:59] badsanta : how did all the wall sjust disappear
[2016-12-20 23:17:59] l3f : could be fake out
[2016-12-20 23:18:10] l3f : sleger: where are you taking us
[2016-12-20 23:18:13] YOLO : so glad I held my 45x long
[2016-12-20 23:18:18] sleger : no worries
[2016-12-20 23:20:45] l3f : Predicted Funding Rate0.0930% in 12 hours
[2016-12-20 23:20:45] aaaaa : omg
[2016-12-20 23:20:48] l3f : fucking moon fuel
[2016-12-20 23:21:23] aethlios : btc the only real market to trade now in the world, no CB intervention and destroy of economic logic
[2016-12-20 23:21:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 110 @ 0.001431
[2016-12-20 23:22:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.001426
[2016-12-20 23:24:03] aaaaa : go go go
[2016-12-20 23:24:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 750 @ 0.001416
[2016-12-20 23:25:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4 @ 800.07 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-20 23:25:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 20 @ 803.45
[2016-12-20 23:26:11] l3f : guys plz
[2016-12-20 23:26:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 150 @ 801.12
[2016-12-20 23:26:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 47891 @ 804.11
[2016-12-20 23:26:24] l3f : this is madness
[2016-12-20 23:26:28] KingTuna : Long on XBT, short on ETC and ETH yeeeeeee :)
[2016-12-20 23:28:29] l3f : Tell me about bitcoin
[2016-12-20 23:28:34] l3f : why does it pump?
[2016-12-20 23:29:01] l3f : we are so euphoric right now, $4 above index price
[2016-12-20 23:29:14] sleger : because its early in the morning in china
[2016-12-20 23:29:22] l3f : 7:30 to be honest
[2016-12-20 23:29:37] aethlios : still china much behind, 3month okcoin at 50 usd steadily above swap here. china didn't pump yet, this is west buying
[2016-12-20 23:29:43] l3f : Testing upper channel bound now
[2016-12-20 23:29:49] l3f : if this pushes through
[2016-12-20 23:29:58] l3f : horry shit
[2016-12-20 23:31:40] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/mZeiLpqp/ 3month okcoin premium above swap steady, still china not in the pump game. they dump to still keep market down but spot west buying with stamp finex kraken.
[2016-12-20 23:32:03] startChat : nigeria in the pump game
[2016-12-20 23:33:27] aethlios : someone to wake up rapid.
[2016-12-20 23:35:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 4 @ 0.009400
[2016-12-20 23:35:05] Apocalyptic : aethlios: if the west is leading this, it may be related to the ETF listing
[2016-12-20 23:35:56] aethlios : Bitmex i can't find XBCH17 to tradingview. do you know if they added it? can you ask them to add it? will be useful
[2016-12-20 23:36:12] BitMEX_Greg : will take a look
[2016-12-20 23:36:53] aethlios : Apocalyptic: I watch the spread of yuan and 3month future, if stays stable and we go up means (for me) west buying and east follows, if spread widens then the opposite.
[2016-12-20 23:37:28] BitMEX_Greg : Yes I can't find it either, we can send an email to them
[2016-12-20 23:37:42] aethlios : BitMEX_Greg: Nice thanks.
[2016-12-20 23:39:36] aethlios : Apocalyptic: etf will be huge for many reasons.
[2016-12-20 23:39:50] Apocalyptic : aethlios: I know
[2016-12-20 23:41:20] Apocalyptic : It wouldn't surprise me if some insiders will quietly try to buy before the annoucement, something we may be witnessing now
[2016-12-20 23:42:09] TB : Apocalyptic: this is not quiet
[2016-12-20 23:42:16] aethlios : 1st reason: millions of traders will have acess to btc with no risk holding it. 2nd: leverage from brokers
[2016-12-20 23:42:28] Apocalyptic : TB: I said "try"
[2016-12-20 23:43:01] aethlios : imagine interactive brokers to give their traders the option to buy btc etf.
[2016-12-20 23:43:06] Apocalyptic : and according to some people here a/many whales have been accumulating for weeks
[2016-12-20 23:44:47] aethlios : my think is that because borrowing usd now is cheap up to 2% to 3% in major brokers to buy on margin, this could pump the etf price in a premium to spot, or if the etf wants to follow the spot will have to buy spot continually.
[2016-12-20 23:45:34] aethlios : https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?f=interest&p=schedule2
[2016-12-20 23:45:39] Apocalyptic : "the etf wants to follow the spot will have to buy spot continually" this seems likely
[2016-12-20 23:46:53] aethlios : IB has 1.66% yearly cost of interest in a long margin. so very cheap leverage for btc, now finex has 0.08% daily.
[2016-12-20 23:47:58] aethlios : because of cheap cost of margin many could buy the etf with 5x leverage.
[2016-12-20 23:49:43] cookielito : here we go again
[2016-12-20 23:50:36] micmix : interesting universe you guys live in, a universe where millions of people wake up in the morning and check their broker to see if bitcoin etf is available ;-) because they had no way to get bitcoin exposure in the last 3 years
[2016-12-20 23:52:48] micmix : that was sarcasm btw
[2016-12-20 23:53:24] QuantFocus : :knife
[2016-12-20 23:53:26] QuantFocus : :knife:
[2016-12-20 23:56:49] Apocalyptic : I don't get your comment
[2016-12-20 23:57:00] Apocalyptic : "because they had no way to get bitcoin exposure in the last 3 years" they had no convenient way
[2016-12-20 23:57:35] Apocalyptic : sending scans of your id to a new japanease/hk company isn't appealing for everyone
[2016-12-20 23:57:57] l3f : incoming dump
[2016-12-20 23:58:24] Apocalyptic : well you can in 1 click on a platform you've been using for years and trust, it's indeed a different universe
[2016-12-20 23:58:31] Apocalyptic : *when
[2016-12-20 23:58:31] QuantFocus : yep
[2016-12-20 23:59:42] aethlios : micmix: listen, you have a 100K account in interective brokers. you are a trader and make an extra living trading this amount. your 100K are gov. protected. will you withdraw half to buy btc, sending money to finex, and then learn about wallets and cold storage and have half your capital locked? Or prefer to use etf and trade it, not holding, with 10x leverage so use only a small portion of your working capital???
[2016-12-21 00:04:02] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2016-12-21 00:04:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1000 @ 842.29
[2016-12-21 00:06:01] QuantFocus : watch out for the hardy semen ladies and gents
[2016-12-21 00:06:30] Apocalyptic : ^ read semen as well
[2016-12-21 00:06:57] TB : D. Seamen
[2016-12-21 00:07:20] QuantFocus : don't choke on the salty waters
[2016-12-21 00:11:13] l3f : QuantFocus: waters or tears?
[2016-12-21 00:12:26] QuantFocus : you decide
[2016-12-21 00:36:02] micmix : all my friends who were even remotely interested bought on coinbase and still have coins there. it takes 5 minutes to connect a bank account and buy. I'm not talking about day traders, I'm talking about regular people who buy mutual funds, etfs etc.
[2016-12-21 00:37:52] micmix : they have zero interest in leveraged trading
[2016-12-21 00:38:16] Apocalyptic : micmix: carefull with the experience bias, I don't expect your friends to be representative of the larger population
[2016-12-21 00:39:12] micmix : as rapidtrades would say larger population doesn't give a f@ck about bitcoin ;-)
[2016-12-21 00:39:42] Turbo : yet
[2016-12-21 00:52:27] micmix : don't get me wrong, I'm a big proponent of bitcoin and crypto in general, but some bitcoiners' hopes/expectations are not very realistic
[2016-12-21 00:53:54] BitMEX_Sam : I agree with that.
[2016-12-21 00:54:25] BitMEX_Sam : There's a lot of hype, some of it founded, much of it not
[2016-12-21 00:54:59] QuantFocus : hey, i just want my lambo already
[2016-12-21 00:55:05] QuantFocus : so bitcoin is going to 50k
[2016-12-21 00:55:48] micmix : still waiting on 10k bitcoin promised me in 2013 ;-)
[2016-12-21 00:56:01] BitMEX_Sam : Some day
[2016-12-21 00:56:36] Turbo : i'm thinking 10k sometime in 2019
[2016-12-21 00:57:41] shiroe : basically max of $2.5k on 2017, then half in 2018, then $2.5k on 2019. Same cycle.
[2016-12-21 00:58:35] Turbo : really depends on how fast the population wakes up and how bad governments are (probably really bad)
[2016-12-21 00:59:17] Turbo : hope to see lightning network in 2017
[2016-12-21 01:05:19] zanza : 800 cake boys
[2016-12-21 01:07:39] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, that's a nice milestone.
[2016-12-21 01:10:00] aethlios : btc always makes 10x at least cycles and retraces at least 75% of gains, so after 3 and 1/2 years of consolidation 10k target an 8x pump is very conservative. (based on previous history)
[2016-12-21 01:10:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 1911 @ 0.009580
[2016-12-21 01:10:38] aethlios : this consolidation period the biggest in btc history.
[2016-12-21 01:13:50] aethlios : btc last cycles: 1st 2.50>7.50, 2nd 3.90>16.05, 3rd 7.04>254, 4th 44>1165, 5th 155>????
[2016-12-21 01:18:20] micmix : not really relevant, it's like compare oil now to oil in 1920
[2016-12-21 01:22:34] micmix : *comparing
[2016-12-21 01:31:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 90 @ 0.003655
[2016-12-21 01:36:37] Johnster : Hi guys.. where can I find the FAQ/ FEE's?
[2016-12-21 01:38:47] habibi : try here https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2016-12-21 01:44:58] Johnster : How was that again? If I buy from the book > 0,075%, If I ad liquidity to the book -,025%?
[2016-12-21 01:55:04] QuantFocus : Si
[2016-12-21 02:25:53] elmorte : whoa....what happened at the CNY March future?
[2016-12-21 02:27:26] micmix : mm was out and someone market sold 2k
[2016-12-21 02:29:00] micmix : only 2000 was traded at low price <5500, no biggie
[2016-12-21 02:32:43] Rado : micmix: that's not good though
[2016-12-21 02:32:56] Rado : someone could lose a lot of money if they have a stop
[2016-12-21 02:33:13] micmix : only one MM on XBCH17, need more
[2016-12-21 02:34:11] micmix : something like that bound to happen from time to time until we have at least 3-5 reliable MMs on all contracts
[2016-12-21 02:34:43] Rado : agreed
[2016-12-21 02:34:52] sleger : price for leverage
[2016-12-21 02:34:53] Rado : maybe I will add my new bot ;-)
[2016-12-21 02:35:51] javierstone : pumpin
[2016-12-21 02:35:52] micmix : yep, the more the merrier
[2016-12-21 02:37:32] elmorte : micmix: ah, thanks
[2016-12-21 02:41:57] j8 : those trades that cause huge wicks would be rejected on okc. i would appreciate it if bitmex had a similar short term price band. those limits are practically never hit legitimately
[2016-12-21 02:42:57] micmix : Rado: stops on last price are super dangerous here
[2016-12-21 02:47:09] immackay : what the fuck is the order book doing
[2016-12-21 02:51:46] j8 : not much stopping the mark price from spiking 20 pct or 50 pct either when the order book is empty @micmix
[2016-12-21 02:54:15] j8 : gotta fly, later
[2016-12-21 02:56:02] mjones : 0kcoin down?
[2016-12-21 02:57:02] holistico : lol open your 100x allin shorts in 3
[2016-12-21 02:57:16] holistico : 2
[2016-12-21 02:57:26] holistico : 1
[2016-12-21 02:57:44] holistico : Gooo goo
[2016-12-21 02:57:54] immackay : holistico: lol
[2016-12-21 03:06:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 802.31
[2016-12-21 03:06:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 30 @ 802.34
[2016-12-21 03:06:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 11332 @ 802.81
[2016-12-21 03:06:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 155601 @ 803.66 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-12-21 03:06:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 270 @ 803.53
[2016-12-21 03:06:57] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2016-12-21 03:10:17] immackay : man, look at all those liquidated shorts
[2016-12-21 03:11:06] zanza : wow 150k rekt
[2016-12-21 03:11:14] zanza : biggest ive seen in a while
[2016-12-21 03:12:41] zanza : no brakes!
[2016-12-21 03:24:33] zanza : bubble territory?
[2016-12-21 03:30:03] rapidtrades : no dude this will keep going forever
[2016-12-21 03:30:11] rapidtrades : cos bitcoin and stuff
[2016-12-21 03:30:56] immackay : didn't you hear? it's going to the mooooooon
[2016-12-21 03:31:39] rapidtrades : yeah its been going to the moon since 2013
[2016-12-21 03:32:01] rapidtrades : just like elon musk, it never seems to get there
[2016-12-21 03:32:49] immackay : elon musk is the master of hype
[2016-12-21 03:33:08] immackay : "the boring company" what a fucking joke
[2016-12-21 03:34:11] XXXX : rapidtrades: it is time to let go of that short. Much less pain.
[2016-12-21 03:34:38] ett1 : teslas are ugly. just copied the shitty jaguar xk at the back and aston martin at the front
[2016-12-21 03:35:20] ett1 : only nerds in americans that want like them. noone would want one in britain
[2016-12-21 03:35:29] ett1 : theyre made of plastic
[2016-12-21 03:35:41] immackay : like most things from america
[2016-12-21 03:36:53] ett1 : http://gm-volt.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Model_S_Jag_XF-1024x294.jpg
[2016-12-21 03:37:04] immackay : and yeah, the beauty of being a new car company is that you can repurpose what other companies have been using for years and call it your own
[2016-12-21 03:38:44] ett1 : Tesla is producing what i'd expect from some shitty china car brand, but for porsche prices
[2016-12-21 03:39:26] immackay : yup the styling on the newest one just makes me cringe
[2016-12-21 03:40:06] ett1 : i've never had those 'small penis' jokes about lambo/ferrari owners etc theres no correlation. but i'd bet money Tesla owners actually do have smaller dicks
[2016-12-21 03:41:15] ett1 : i wanted to be a car designer when i was a kid. used to draw them then design them in CAD. seriously, theres no creativity in the tesla body
[2016-12-21 03:41:40] ett1 : its cringeworthy to me atleast
[2016-12-21 03:42:14] immackay : I want an electric car but something that is actually, I don't know, desirable
[2016-12-21 03:42:24] ett1 : i always think its a jag from a distance (i dont like the new jags either) but when im close and see the tesla bad, i feel pity for the cars owner
[2016-12-21 03:42:35] ett1 : badge*
[2016-12-21 03:43:23] ett1 : electric ariel atom? @immackay
[2016-12-21 03:44:39] rapidtrades : I have no clue what tesla's plan is tbh
[2016-12-21 03:44:50] rapidtrades : they're losing money on every vehicle sold
[2016-12-21 03:45:30] immackay : ett1: that actually looks cool but it's not practical where I live
[2016-12-21 03:46:27] immackay : rapidtrades: perhaps they think they can get an edge in on the electric car market? even though once electric cars start actually being popular, the giant producers will just start churning them out and tesla will be even deeper in the hole
[2016-12-21 03:47:00] immackay : similar to what happened to solar city
[2016-12-21 03:48:42] rapidtrades : http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38363441
[2016-12-21 03:49:23] l3f : rapidtrades: are you a long or a short?
[2016-12-21 03:49:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 60 @ 804.40
[2016-12-21 03:52:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 25000 @ 804.42