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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-12-20 04:36:46] suriah : dont think btc is making a break upwards today. Looks to take a nap under 784 [2016-12-20 04:55:55] KingTuna : yeah BTC sell pressure [2016-12-20 05:20:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 125 @ 0.004142 [2016-12-20 05:32:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 30 @ 0.001471 [2016-12-20 05:33:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 200 @ 0.001470 [2016-12-20 08:02:05] rapidtrades : wtf is up with this manipulated marlet man [2016-12-20 08:10:51] rapidtrades : bitcorners were so happy when the Chinaman started buying in 2013 [2016-12-20 08:11:03] rapidtrades : little did they realize that was the year we lost bitcoin [2016-12-20 08:14:54] rapidtrades : Comparing Trump to Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan and Helmut Kohl, Dalio said... [2016-12-20 08:15:26] rapidtrades : ^ LOL before the election he was a cook who was gonna sink maarkets, now he's the new Reagan [2016-12-20 08:15:56] rapidtrades : gotta love 'fundamental analysis' [2016-12-20 08:16:47] micmix : poor Margaret Thatcher is turning in her grave [2016-12-20 08:17:29] rapidtrades : yeah i doubt this jackass will live up to the expectations ... [2016-12-20 08:17:45] rapidtrades : then again Reagan was a f*cking actor [2016-12-20 08:18:28] billyboy402 : I am waiting for the first gay president [2016-12-20 08:19:15] kbrn : You already have Obammy [2016-12-20 08:19:51] rapidtrades : kbrn: he's Muslim not gay [2016-12-20 08:20:33] rapidtrades : if he was gay he would have to throw himself off a roof like the great religion mandates [2016-12-20 08:21:59] kbrn : Looks gay enough to me though [2016-12-20 08:29:35] micmix : we have gay premier in Ontario. Kathleen Wynne is a lesbian [2016-12-20 09:47:49] l3f : 780-790 [2016-12-20 09:47:54] l3f : zone of stability [2016-12-20 09:51:03] rapidtrades : l3f: thank u for that insightful comment [2016-12-20 09:51:21] l3f : rapidtrades: any time rapidreplies [2016-12-20 09:51:40] l3f : are you long or losing money? [2016-12-20 10:18:37] rapidtrades : I'm long ur momma [2016-12-20 10:44:15] ett1 : billyboy402: barry was gay. micheal obama is a transvestite [2016-12-20 10:46:40] ett1 : you has a tranny in the whitehouse [2016-12-20 12:03:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 34 @ 0.009710 [2016-12-20 12:16:31] l3f : rapidlosses: so losing money? [2016-12-20 12:21:01] thomaskikansha : big buys? [2016-12-20 12:23:14] ett1 : i love the idiots who expect this to drop [2016-12-20 12:23:32] ett1 : this is like the highest probablility bull pattern you can get [2016-12-20 12:30:04] mjones : Dat etc buy [2016-12-20 12:30:12] mjones : Broke resistance [2016-12-20 12:30:41] thomaskikansha : went 1530 :o [2016-12-20 12:31:29] thomaskikansha : didnt long it [2016-12-20 12:43:38] mjones : Bitfinex close to new high btc [2016-12-20 12:45:32] l3f : rapidlosses: ready for the pain? [2016-12-20 12:50:13] thomaskikansha : 792.48 so close [2016-12-20 12:51:38] suriah : break here or retrace in time for christmas bull [2016-12-20 12:54:11] suriah : go go go [2016-12-20 13:55:50] breadfan : pumpppp [2016-12-20 13:59:00] ett1 : im writing a masters thesis on how bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are efficient markets. though id ask the traders. whats the best evidence you have that they arnt [2016-12-20 13:59:39] elmorte : Lack of transparency in exchanges [2016-12-20 14:00:01] elmorte : So the information available is asymmetrical [2016-12-20 14:00:18] ett1 : GABI hedge fund would have access to the best information and talent [2016-12-20 14:00:20] elmorte : Which I think is in the definition of efficient markets [2016-12-20 14:00:31] ett1 : but theyve only tracked and outperformed btc by 1% [2016-12-20 14:00:39] ett1 : i think thats random enough [2016-12-20 14:01:44] ett1 : most of the smart money vcs arent trading [2016-12-20 14:02:06] ett1 : theyre doing equities, which is probably pretty random results there getting too [2016-12-20 14:26:29] rapidtrades : this market is a joke [2016-12-20 14:32:08] ett1 : why [2016-12-20 14:34:03] ett1 : it wont retrace if thats what your hoping for [2016-12-20 14:34:44] ett1 : this is the bitcoin bull rocket long term breakout pattern. kindo of a classic [2016-12-20 14:36:03] ett1 : turn off the arb bots. this isnt the time [2016-12-20 14:37:02] rapidtrades : this time is different, got it [2016-12-20 14:37:02] orly : ett1: cryptocurrencies being efficient markets? what does that even mean? [2016-12-20 14:37:46] orly : it's mostly a pump and dump fest and hardly anyone acts rationally [2016-12-20 14:37:53] ett1 : that its impossible to predict them consistently enough to make a profit greater than would be expected by random chance [2016-12-20 14:37:56] orly : hell, most people don't even know what they are trading [2016-12-20 14:39:01] rapidtrades : ett1: that's not what efficient markets means [2016-12-20 14:39:28] mjones : Btc [2016-12-20 14:39:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 18500 @ 795.40 [2016-12-20 14:39:47] ett1 : The efficient market hypothesis (EMH) is an investment theory that states it is impossible to "beat the market" because stock market efficiency causes existing share prices to always incorporate and reflect all relevant information [2016-12-20 14:40:19] laisee : which is never really true, ofc [2016-12-20 14:40:36] rapidtrades : the 'beating the market' part is just the implication of EMH, not part of the definition [2016-12-20 14:40:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 7000 @ 793.97 [2016-12-20 14:40:42] ett1 : i was just creating some debate. i dont believe EMH [2016-12-20 14:40:49] ett1 : ill prove it. this is going to 800 [2016-12-20 14:40:57] rapidtrades : ur an idiot [2016-12-20 14:40:58] ett1 : before 780 [2016-12-20 14:41:06] laisee : the current price === the right price [2016-12-20 14:41:09] ett1 : hahaa watch and see [2016-12-20 14:41:41] rapidtrades : i hope u get an F u lazy bastard [2016-12-20 14:42:12] laisee : Y? learn more about markets by trading than reading books [2016-12-20 14:42:31] ett1 : maybe [2016-12-20 14:42:39] laisee : except for those who neva learn zip ... [2016-12-20 14:42:50] ett1 : books are full of wisdom, lots of shite trading books out there though. need to know the difference [2016-12-20 14:43:59] ett1 : is bitcoin trading your full tiem job rapid? [2016-12-20 14:44:16] ett1 : i want to be a bitcoin full time trading pro [2016-12-20 14:44:30] ett1 : maybe i should be nice to you [2016-12-20 14:45:20] ett1 : i went around all the banks in 2011, telling them i wanted to trade bitcoin but they had no positions [2016-12-20 14:45:32] ett1 : how do i get my foot in the door [2016-12-20 14:46:24] laisee : study finance, get an ingternship, find a rich, powerful relative working at senior level in an IB. [2016-12-20 14:47:04] rapidtrades : there are few institutional investors in bitcoin [2016-12-20 14:47:05] ett1 : i dropped out of oxford and became a rentboy [2016-12-20 14:47:19] orly : fck the banks [2016-12-20 14:47:34] orly : get a loan, invest 10% alcohol, 10% weed, trade the rest [2016-12-20 14:47:38] laisee : join hedge fund, then. [2016-12-20 14:48:46] ett1 : ive spoken to loads of hf managers, most are clueless [2016-12-20 14:49:02] ett1 : everyone clueless [2016-12-20 14:49:15] mjones : ah fake out pump [2016-12-20 14:49:17] laisee : maybe the good ones are too busy to talk to u [2016-12-20 14:49:19] mjones : btc dump incoming [2016-12-20 14:50:01] ett1 : perhaps i gave up trying to convice people of stuff [2016-12-20 14:50:31] ett1 : in 5 years pehaps, when theyre all setting up shop [2016-12-20 14:50:37] ett1 : inevitable [2016-12-20 14:51:13] ett1 : theyll be hiring anyone that reads coindesk [2016-12-20 14:53:07] ett1 : and they want you to sit around and trade in the office. my systems give me trades like once a month. [2016-12-20 14:53:43] ett1 : i should get some bullshit long short equity gig if im going to do it [2016-12-20 14:53:48] ett1 : its the only game in town [2016-12-20 14:53:57] laisee : join hedge fund, if their investment story matches yours [2016-12-20 14:54:25] ett1 : i want to start one. how does olaf get $10m [2016-12-20 14:55:09] ett1 : i see all these ICOs. ICO a hedge fund and end up in jail [2016-12-20 14:57:10] ett1 : not really interested in the job market. you dont have any control [2016-12-20 14:57:30] rapidtrades : u can't really join a fund without the proper degree these days [2016-12-20 14:58:01] ett1 : ill start one when my profits allow it [2016-12-20 14:58:08] rapidtrades : why bother [2016-12-20 14:58:21] ett1 : why bother what [2016-12-20 14:58:42] rapidtrades : once u get a couple mil, that should last u for the rest of ur life [2016-12-20 14:58:48] rapidtrades : wwhy bother chasing more [2016-12-20 14:59:02] ett1 : i think if you are actually a decent trader, better off getting a job or starting a business that is the source of income and grow your own money [2016-12-20 14:59:21] ett1 : fuck convincing others to invest and wasting time [2016-12-20 14:59:21] laisee : exactly - If u just want to trade then don't join a bank. [2016-12-20 14:59:24] ett1 : ye [2016-12-20 14:59:30] ett1 : but i dont have much capital [2016-12-20 14:59:40] ett1 : i could have been a multimillionaire [2016-12-20 14:59:54] ett1 : nobody trades bitcoin [2016-12-20 15:00:05] ett1 : hard to convince investors [2016-12-20 15:00:14] rapidtrades : that's a big part of the reason why it's so easy to make money here tho [2016-12-20 15:00:16] ett1 : but its the only thing that works and could make big money [2016-12-20 15:00:21] ett1 : frustrating [2016-12-20 15:00:27] rapidtrades : no institutions to balance out the retail idiots [2016-12-20 15:00:42] ett1 : ye, first mover advantage tho [2016-12-20 15:00:50] ett1 : to those that do work it out i guess [2016-12-20 15:01:53] rapidtrades : u can either job and move and use ur savings to built an account u can live on...or go back to school :) [2016-12-20 15:02:05] ett1 : fuck school [2016-12-20 15:02:09] rapidtrades : I butchered that but u know what i meant :) [2016-12-20 15:03:07] Rado : ett1: it takes years to become a good trader [2016-12-20 15:03:07] ett1 : i dont think droppign out of shcool has anything to do with things. im still capable. more my attitude [2016-12-20 15:03:19] Rado : most people never make it [2016-12-20 15:03:27] ett1 : ive been in bitcoin since $1 because i was trading [2016-12-20 15:03:38] ett1 : so i know about brakouts [2016-12-20 15:03:44] laisee : then u shd have some capital [2016-12-20 15:03:50] ett1 : living costs [2016-12-20 15:04:21] Rado : If you were since $1 and don't have 1000 BTC you should give up now [2016-12-20 15:04:24] laisee : BTC goes from $1 to $1000 and u never saved any? [2016-12-20 15:04:37] ett1 : ive had hundreds [2016-12-20 15:04:42] ett1 : ive spent hundreds [2016-12-20 15:05:07] ett1 : ive been profiting all the way, but spending profits. unable to invest a meaningful % more [2016-12-20 15:05:28] ett1 : beleive me ive cut my costs as low as i can becuas ei hate spending money [2016-12-20 15:05:33] ett1 : every $1 is like $10 to me [2016-12-20 15:05:50] ett1 : because im expecting it to grow tha in 2 years maybe [2016-12-20 15:06:04] arbitrage001 : price finally move [2016-12-20 15:06:14] arbitrage001 : a dollar or two [2016-12-20 15:06:17] rapidtrades : yeah it moved 0.4% [2016-12-20 15:06:24] rapidtrades : let's all celebrate [2016-12-20 15:06:30] arbitrage001 : we are all excited [2016-12-20 15:06:50] ett1 : were all excited about the blockchain technology [2016-12-20 15:06:56] arbitrage001 : a 1000 pump always start with 1 dollar movement [2016-12-20 15:07:01] Rado : Is this the longest period for BTC not moving? [2016-12-20 15:07:17] laisee : maybe BTC had died and we never noticed [2016-12-20 15:07:23] Rado : lol [2016-12-20 15:07:24] ett1 : it does this every time before a major pump [2016-12-20 15:07:35] laisee : ... it's resting [2016-12-20 15:07:41] ett1 : coiling [2016-12-20 15:07:51] mjones : new bitfinex high [2016-12-20 15:08:02] ett1 : bitfinex are crooks [2016-12-20 15:08:13] laisee : successful crooks [2016-12-20 15:08:13] rapidtrades : f*ck finex and its fakeass market [2016-12-20 15:08:17] arbitrage001 : not 100% crook [2016-12-20 15:08:24] arbitrage001 : which is better than most already [2016-12-20 15:08:42] laisee : they gave back some ... nice [2016-12-20 15:08:58] kingkrung : what do you think about the mail from bitmext regarding ETCWin Settlement? [2016-12-20 15:09:03] ett1 : ye and who was going to risk holding the tokens [2016-12-20 15:09:05] ett1 : i got out asap [2016-12-20 15:09:22] ett1 : lie to i was golding all USD that i wasnt supposed to be affected [2016-12-20 15:09:26] laisee : I never understood them [2016-12-20 15:09:36] kingkrung : chances are hight, that etcwin=etc. so its quite possible thats sub 0.002 btc? [2016-12-20 15:09:44] ett1 : my fault tho [2016-12-20 15:09:56] laisee : but I made 0.65 BTC on a quick pump one day [2016-12-20 15:10:10] ett1 : next time im holding 90% in wallet and hedge with a 10x short on here [2016-12-20 15:10:36] laisee : a token that might be exchanged for a market that might trade ETC if it survices .... hmmm [2016-12-20 15:10:54] laisee : ^survives^survices [2016-12-20 15:11:06] arbitrage001 : laisee: we live in fantasy land [2016-12-20 15:11:15] arbitrage001 : using mark to fantasy accounting practice [2016-12-20 15:11:25] laisee : trading little nothings in the internets [2016-12-20 15:11:52] arbitrage001 : everyone is profitable, just not realized yet [2016-12-20 15:12:26] laisee : ... everyone must etcwin a PRIZE [2016-12-20 15:13:03] arbitrage001 : a small dump will cause rekt [2016-12-20 15:13:10] arbitrage001 : all my lights are on [2016-12-20 15:13:27] arbitrage001 : so, traders going long must be maxing out their leverage [2016-12-20 15:13:39] laisee : cool. time for some REKKAGE ... [2016-12-20 15:14:28] laisee : rapidtrades: ZEC? What gives ... [2016-12-20 15:15:39] arbitrage001 : my bot actually making profit lol [2016-12-20 15:16:32] laisee : arbitrage001: bot.iq > arbitrage001.iq? [2016-12-20 15:16:54] Rado : arbitrage001: mine are not [2016-12-20 15:16:55] arbitrage001 : laisee: appear that way [2016-12-20 15:16:57] Rado : only one [2016-12-20 15:17:08] TB : laisee: well he built the bot [2016-12-20 15:17:16] arbitrage001 : laisee: bot are just mechanic trade without the emotion [2016-12-20 15:18:06] Rado : arbitrage001: the real test will come when BTC starts moving [2016-12-20 15:18:25] arbitrage001 : Rado: already have limit in place [2016-12-20 15:20:10] Rado : arbitrage001: limit is fine, but that doesn't mean you are not going to lose [2016-12-20 15:21:30] arbitrage001 : Rado: bot is written in a way to reduce risk and profitable during normal time [2016-12-20 15:21:59] Rado : arbitrage001: how do you reduce risk when BTC moves $50? [2016-12-20 15:21:59] arbitrage001 : have a circuit breaker to stop during pump or dump time [2016-12-20 15:22:39] arbitrage001 : stop the bot if it accumulate beyond certain size [2016-12-20 15:22:39] Rado : you can't stop before the orders are filled [2016-12-20 15:22:59] Rado : and what do you do with that accumulated position? [2016-12-20 15:23:11] arbitrage001 : accumulate positiion is small [2016-12-20 15:23:11] laisee : arbitrage001: then u could end up long b4 a serious dump ... LOSS [2016-12-20 15:23:37] arbitrage001 : Rado: how long have you been trading? [2016-12-20 15:23:38] ett1 : arbitrage...twice the risk, for half the profits [2016-12-20 15:23:47] Rado : arbitrage001: BTC or in general? [2016-12-20 15:23:55] arbitrage001 : in general [2016-12-20 15:24:02] Rado : Started in 1997 [2016-12-20 15:24:14] arbitrage001 : cuz your question suggest you dont know how to control risk [2016-12-20 15:24:19] arbitrage001 : indicate [2016-12-20 15:24:47] ett1 : arbitrage001: you trade BTC & other markets still. or now only BTC [2016-12-20 15:24:55] Rado : I do. What I am asking is how did you incorporate your knowladge in the bot [2016-12-20 15:24:58] Rado : which is not easy [2016-12-20 15:25:00] arbitrage001 : ett1: btc and forex [2016-12-20 15:26:02] ett1 : like how much of your trading portfolio is BTC systems VS other investments (so FX) [2016-12-20 15:26:23] arbitrage001 : ett1: btc really included forex [2016-12-20 15:26:34] sleger : Rado: he thinks you can arb by buying on spot exchange at 780 and sell the swap at 790... and "lock in" profit.... [2016-12-20 15:26:47] Rado : sleger: hey [2016-12-20 15:26:48] arbitrage001 : since most countries currencies are doing down the sink [2016-12-20 15:27:01] Rado : I finally figured out the cron job and bash script [2016-12-20 15:27:03] arbitrage001 : sleger: sure [2016-12-20 15:27:07] sleger : Rado: good [2016-12-20 15:27:17] ett1 : oh you play arb like BTCJPY BTCEUR etc [2016-12-20 15:27:38] arbitrage001 : ett1: i only deal with usd, rmb and ringgit [2016-12-20 15:29:20] Rado : sleger: Bot got started 4 times since yesterday [2016-12-20 15:29:38] Rado : not sure if it stops taht often because it's on testnet [2016-12-20 15:29:50] sleger : well you should know why it stops... [2016-12-20 15:30:01] Rado : a couple of obscure errors [2016-12-20 15:30:10] arbitrage001 : my bot stops when the position is 0 [2016-12-20 15:30:12] Rado : 2 times the market reported as not open [2016-12-20 15:30:22] arbitrage001 : there is a logic error on the sample bot i think [2016-12-20 15:30:29] sleger : arbitrage001: your bot will stop soon because the balance of your account will be zero [2016-12-20 15:30:57] Rado : lol [2016-12-20 15:31:02] ett1 : hahaha [2016-12-20 15:31:19] Rado : arbitrage001: how much in the account with the bot [2016-12-20 15:31:21] Rado : ? [2016-12-20 15:31:29] arbitrage001 : just 2 btc [2016-12-20 15:31:41] arbitrage001 : 2.0318 now [2016-12-20 15:31:46] Rado : cool [2016-12-20 15:32:09] ett1 : your looking to gow in BTC or in USD [2016-12-20 15:32:14] ett1 : grow [2016-12-20 15:32:17] arbitrage001 : ett1: usd [2016-12-20 15:32:26] arbitrage001 : ett1: for the bot, btc [2016-12-20 15:32:26] ett1 : kl same [2016-12-20 15:32:41] arbitrage001 : ett1: btc price already hedged [2016-12-20 15:32:59] ett1 : oh ok, in understand that [2016-12-20 15:33:15] ett1 : i get you [2016-12-20 15:33:25] sleger : he "locked in" the price [2016-12-20 15:33:36] arbitrage001 : sleger: indeed [2016-12-20 15:33:40] sleger : he can withdraw usd from bitmex should he need to [2016-12-20 15:33:47] arbitrage001 : arthur will pigeon mail me the usd [2016-12-20 15:33:56] laisee : they will email the $usd I hear [2016-12-20 15:34:10] ett1 : like instead of having USD sitting on exchange, you could have 90% in BTC on your wallet and 10% of the BTC here with a 10x short to be flat [2016-12-20 15:34:12] laisee : of a picture, at least [2016-12-20 15:34:17] sleger : the only thing the pigeon will bring is poop [2016-12-20 15:34:24] ett1 : i think thats better than trusting exchanges and easy to do [2016-12-20 15:35:27] arbitrage001 : ett1: yes [2016-12-20 15:35:38] arbitrage001 : ett1: so, bitmex will hopefully grow [2016-12-20 15:35:48] arbitrage001 : and traders with it [2016-12-20 15:36:08] Rado : funding is negative [2016-12-20 15:36:13] ett1 : and you get paid interest i think from the short [2016-12-20 15:36:25] ett1 : not sure how much it amount to [2016-12-20 15:36:36] Rado : that might be a sign that a correction is coming :-) [2016-12-20 15:37:05] sleger : ett1: at the moment you are paying interest, Rado just told you [2016-12-20 15:37:37] ett1 : oh, is that usually the case. i thought it was the other way [2016-12-20 15:37:58] sleger : on average [2016-12-20 15:38:05] sleger : so far [2016-12-20 15:38:29] ett1 : more traders are bearish here right now [2016-12-20 15:39:51] sleger : that is an excellent indicator [2016-12-20 15:39:56] sleger : that the price will go up [2016-12-20 15:39:59] justinlooking : moon [2016-12-20 15:41:56] zanza : EUR/USD got rekt [2016-12-20 15:42:24] l3f : Jesus christ is everyone and their mom hedging now [2016-12-20 15:42:36] l3f : I swear that APR is going to be 2% now [2016-12-20 15:43:53] Rado : isn't WIN an easy short here? [2016-12-20 15:44:03] Rado : it will settle the same as ETC price [2016-12-20 15:44:10] l3f : Rado: assuming no secondary market [2016-12-20 15:44:15] Rado : and ETC might correct from here [2016-12-20 15:44:27] Rado : l3f: do you knwo of any exchange listing it? [2016-12-20 15:44:29] Rado : know [2016-12-20 15:44:33] arbitrage001 : Rado: no easy money in trading [2016-12-20 15:44:44] l3f : Rado: well that's the risk isn't it [2016-12-20 15:44:52] Rado : arbitrage001: there are a lot of easy trades [2016-12-20 15:44:57] ett1 : id just short ETH [2016-12-20 15:45:20] l3f : from my analysis eth will be a decent buy in maybe 2 weeks [2016-12-20 15:45:24] Rado : traders are just try to find the hardest way to make money [2016-12-20 15:45:31] l3f : net volume growing, CPI growing [2016-12-20 15:45:38] ett1 : but i sweat ETH foundation have a pump team that gets activated when btc dumps [2016-12-20 15:45:45] ett1 : they try and fuel it [2016-12-20 15:46:43] l3f : eth foundation got so much btc it isn't funny [2016-12-20 15:46:59] ett1 : yes they sold the ETH for BTC [2016-12-20 15:47:06] ett1 : nice scheme [2016-12-20 15:47:19] sleger : Rado: how is your short usdjpy [2016-12-20 15:47:25] arbitrage001 : l3f: high expectation also high disappointment should it fails [2016-12-20 15:47:28] l3f : well they took millions of btc on ICO [2016-12-20 15:47:35] ett1 : and distracted everyone to keep btc price low to give them time to buy up with their dumb pumblicity stunts [2016-12-20 15:47:44] l3f : I bought at ICO [2016-12-20 15:47:47] l3f : ahah [2016-12-20 15:47:49] l3f : the first ICO [2016-12-20 15:47:51] l3f : ever [2016-12-20 15:47:56] l3f : (the eth one) [2016-12-20 15:48:13] l3f : you know, it didn't used to be called ICO, it used to be called selling premines [2016-12-20 15:48:14] ett1 : no i think NXT did a crowdfund but it was private [2016-12-20 15:48:36] l3f : or you can take VC money [2016-12-20 15:48:38] sleger : the next big coin will be Tezos [2016-12-20 15:48:42] ett1 : but either way i guess it was innovative/they had balls [2016-12-20 15:49:10] l3f : the deal with ICO is that if you it looks like pump fuel [2016-12-20 15:49:12] l3f : then ball to the wall [2016-12-20 15:49:20] ett1 : but they just put up vitalik some kid as the fall huy to take all the responsibility if they got into trouble [2016-12-20 15:49:30] ett1 : i still dont understnd eitherium [2016-12-20 15:49:31] l3f : ah well eth is complicated [2016-12-20 15:49:38] ett1 : its just a programming language [2016-12-20 15:49:41] ett1 : right? [2016-12-20 15:50:12] l3f : on the block chain [2016-12-20 15:50:21] ett1 : thats part of the fraud...just to mystify you with jargon and technicalities to dirtract from the core scam [2016-12-20 15:50:31] l3f : I won't call it a scam [2016-12-20 15:50:33] l3f : it is innovative [2016-12-20 15:50:38] l3f : but I bought for pump [2016-12-20 15:50:42] ett1 : which is very simple in essence [2016-12-20 15:50:43] l3f : I'm sure there are hardcore believers [2016-12-20 15:51:05] l3f : sleger: tell me about the pump, why does it stall at 790? [2016-12-20 15:51:05] ett1 : its like the dot com bubble [2016-12-20 15:51:10] ett1 : im not complaining [2016-12-20 15:51:27] ett1 : i missed LTC and ETH. i shorted ETH at the top actually [2016-12-20 15:51:42] ett1 : when it was like $1bn vs btc $6bn market cap [2016-12-20 15:51:58] sleger : l3f: why would I know ? [2016-12-20 15:52:24] l3f : sleger: I thought you rig the system and the market [2016-12-20 15:52:32] sleger : unzoom your chart [2016-12-20 15:52:35] sleger : nothing stalled [2016-12-20 15:52:52] l3f : yeah I know it's in the channels, slowly moving up [2016-12-20 15:53:03] ett1 : 780 was long term high peak [2016-12-20 15:53:19] ett1 : its just playing near the level [2016-12-20 15:54:45] ett1 : uncertainty for short term traders because its a major price zone [2016-12-20 15:55:06] sleger : that swap has became so bearish [2016-12-20 15:55:07] l3f : https://twitter.com/BitmexRekt/status/811219485927632896 [2016-12-20 15:55:09] l3f : nice it happened [2016-12-20 15:55:22] l3f : I was expecting that line to come out sooner or later [2016-12-20 15:55:38] l3f : sleger: yeah I was commenting on it [2016-12-20 16:04:38] rapidtrades : I'm confused by self in python...read explanations online but stil confused [2016-12-20 16:04:52] l3f : rapidtrades: have you used OOP before? [2016-12-20 16:05:02] l3f : i.e. any OOP language such as java [2016-12-20 16:05:02] sleger : rapidtrades: just put it everywhere [2016-12-20 16:05:08] l3f : sleger: nooo [2016-12-20 16:05:09] laisee : diff between class and object [2016-12-20 16:05:25] l3f : self refers to the current instance [2016-12-20 16:05:42] l3f : it's like using OOP paradigm in C [2016-12-20 16:05:49] l3f : you pass the struct ptr in the first argument [2016-12-20 16:06:06] l3f : if this is too hard then just kys [2016-12-20 16:07:53] rapidtrades : laisee: what do u mean [2016-12-20 16:08:57] laisee : a class is like a template in word, objects are created using the template. The self.???? attributes can be different, the other are same for all instances [2016-12-20 16:09:50] sleger : i'm sure it's much more clear now [2016-12-20 16:10:49] laisee : read this: https://pythontips.com/2013/08/07/the-self-variable-in-python-explained/ [2016-12-20 16:10:50] sleger : rapidtrades: https://pythontips.com/2013/08/07/the-self-variable-in-python-explained/ [2016-12-20 16:10:58] sleger : oh damn [2016-12-20 16:11:01] rapidtrades : dam [2016-12-20 16:11:29] l3f : laisee: sleger: the google first result hive mind [2016-12-20 16:11:55] ett1 : if a trading system cant be created in ecel, its too complex [2016-12-20 16:11:58] laisee : 1st [2016-12-20 16:12:04] sleger : i saw some stackoverflow first but they werent very clear, that example is [2016-12-20 16:12:42] rapidtrades : yeah the stackoverflow were shit [2016-12-20 16:12:55] sleger : ett1: everything can be made in excel, it will just crash before finishing the calculation [2016-12-20 16:12:57] laisee : ett1: gud luck with your excel bot [2016-12-20 16:13:21] ett1 : hehe [2016-12-20 16:13:48] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: can always hire someone to do the work for you [2016-12-20 16:13:58] l3f : ett1: real quants use excel m80 [2016-12-20 16:14:04] l3f : don't let them shit on your dreams [2016-12-20 16:14:50] sleger : excel is ok to plot the graph of the output of your c++ dll [2016-12-20 16:14:57] laisee : excel 4.0 rocks [2016-12-20 16:15:15] l3f : sleger: we have juypter notebook now [2016-12-20 16:15:35] l3f : excel is deprecated [2016-12-20 16:15:35] sleger : but that's for python [2016-12-20 16:15:48] l3f : sleger: you can use other languages too [2016-12-20 16:15:51] l3f : as long as they aren't shit [2016-12-20 16:15:58] sleger : ok didnt know [2016-12-20 16:16:03] laisee : VBA ok, then? [2016-12-20 16:17:26] ett1 : write it in solidarity [2016-12-20 16:19:15] l3f : sleger: what do you think of the CVI on btc? [2016-12-20 16:19:22] ett1 : create a next generation bot that will disrupt finance as we know it [2016-12-20 16:19:24] l3f : isn't that very suspecious? [2016-12-20 16:20:13] ett1 : whats that, falling volume? [2016-12-20 16:20:26] ett1 : theyre uncertainty till theres a meaningful breakout move [2016-12-20 16:20:53] l3f : nah, constant, high volume [2016-12-20 16:21:10] l3f : net volume rising as well on the buy side [2016-12-20 16:21:25] ett1 : everything pointing bull to me [2016-12-20 16:21:38] ett1 : it want to break 800 [2016-12-20 16:21:52] ett1 : it has to on the way to 10,000 or whatever. so it happening now [2016-12-20 16:21:55] l3f : if it breaks 800 all hell breaks lose [2016-12-20 16:21:57] laisee : else, dump [2016-12-20 16:22:13] l3f : tbqh I don't really think so [2016-12-20 16:22:22] l3f : it'll rise slow and steady like it's doing now [2016-12-20 16:22:40] ett1 : look at when it broke 30 [2016-12-20 16:22:40] ett1 : or 250 [2016-12-20 16:23:07] ett1 : long term breaakouts. ok so were not at an ATH yet, but 780 is a 2 year high & basically the saem pattern [2016-12-20 16:23:18] ett1 : we could pump to $3000 quite easily if it breaks [2016-12-20 16:23:29] l3f : nah it's already past long term ATH [2016-12-20 16:23:33] l3f : and still no money shot [2016-12-20 16:23:36] thiago : Dow Jones 19998 o.0 [2016-12-20 16:23:47] ett1 : long ter, ATH is like $1200 [2016-12-20 16:24:31] ett1 : you you reallt think a mobe to $1000 is that crazy? its only 20% [2016-12-20 16:24:46] ett1 : btc has made moves liek that in a day. wait till it builds some momentum [2016-12-20 16:25:13] ett1 : not that i want this. id love for it to stay down bellow 500 but i cant fight the market [2016-12-20 16:25:38] ett1 : BTC is going to 10,000 whether i want it to or not [2016-12-20 16:25:38] l3f : ett1: nah I'm long H17 futures [2016-12-20 16:25:41] l3f : so of course I think it'll rise [2016-12-20 16:26:30] l3f : but I don't think it'll be expontential growth bubble pump'd right there [2016-12-20 16:26:58] ett1 : its been on an exponential growth since birth. check the log chart [2016-12-20 16:27:14] ett1 : slowing exponential growth, but still exponential long term [2016-12-20 16:27:26] ett1 : might be the last chance to get in below 800 [2016-12-20 16:29:39] l3f : lol people's been selling the btc doesn't retrace bs for years [2016-12-20 16:29:40] l3f : it always retraces [2016-12-20 16:31:12] ett1 : after an all time high [2016-12-20 16:32:19] ett1 : it wont retrance more than 10% if it breaks here. so like down to 730 maybe (if that low) [2016-12-20 17:00:19] suriah : for some fucking retarded reason I fucked up my stop loss at 792 [2016-12-20 17:01:01] suriah : so now I liquidated what I worked hard for. Round of applause [2016-12-20 17:01:51] rapidtrades : ett1: 20% [2016-12-20 17:02:15] rapidtrades : so what do i do with the marketmaker file? just dump all into my python directory or what [2016-12-20 17:03:07] rapidtrades : https://github.com/BitMEX/sample-market-maker [2016-12-20 17:06:04] breadfan : python setup.py install [2016-12-20 17:06:07] breadfan : ./marketmaker [2016-12-20 17:09:01] rapidtrades : right...but so i should unzip the files to my python directory first? cos it has nothing to install [2016-12-20 17:11:26] breadfan : no, just unzip it to somewhere, then from terminal cd into the directory where you unzipped it [2016-12-20 17:11:40] breadfan : you know how to use terminal/cmd? [2016-12-20 17:11:42] sleger : he probably uses windows [2016-12-20 17:11:56] sleger : first step : format c: [2016-12-20 17:12:02] breadfan : xD [2016-12-20 17:12:05] sleger : second step : install a real OS [2016-12-20 17:13:02] emperortrump : is it possible to set stop loss after a trade has been made here ? [2016-12-20 17:13:24] rapidtrades : yeah i use windows [2016-12-20 17:14:06] rapidtrades : nvm i think i figured it out [2016-12-20 17:14:23] breadfan : well, if you know how to use the command prompt in windows, you just cd in the directory where you unzipped the python files, and run the two commands I mentioned, otherwise search online a bit how to use cmd and python [2016-12-20 17:14:43] sleger : oh nice, quoine offered me $1000 [2016-12-20 17:15:26] sleger : rapidtrades: you have win 10 ? [2016-12-20 17:17:01] laisee : sleger: they paying people for the "price issues"? [2016-12-20 17:17:12] sleger : no not even that, some promotion [2016-12-20 17:17:25] sleger : just need to trade 1000btc of volume between now and mar 20 [2016-12-20 17:17:36] rapidtrades : looool [2016-12-20 17:17:48] sleger : which i would probably already do anyways [2016-12-20 17:18:02] sleger : and they have zero fees... [2016-12-20 17:18:22] rapidtrades : well that's dumb on their part [2016-12-20 17:19:06] sleger : no it's nice [2016-12-20 17:19:26] sleger : it's already in my account [2016-12-20 17:19:35] sleger : although i had nothing left there [2016-12-20 17:19:42] laisee : just pick one of their currencies with low vol and got for it ... [2016-12-20 17:20:03] habibi : sleger: thx for info [2016-12-20 17:20:11] rapidtrades : lol [2016-12-20 17:20:30] sleger : habibi: terms and conditions (in small) says : doesnt apply to arabs [2016-12-20 17:20:40] rapidtrades : habibi: wanna ping-pong in the indian rupee until we clear 1000 btc? [2016-12-20 17:20:41] habibi : sleger: even better [2016-12-20 17:21:11] habibi : rapidtrades: yea after new year we can do it, will be away for few weeks for now [2016-12-20 17:21:13] sleger : i dont think it applies if you werent selected [2016-12-20 17:21:21] rapidtrades : wtf [2016-12-20 17:21:26] rapidtrades : f*ck u sleger [2016-12-20 17:21:39] sleger : you think they would offer $1000 to anyone ? [2016-12-20 17:21:52] sleger : no it's only for the already rich [2016-12-20 17:22:00] sleger : quoine : make the rich richer [2016-12-20 17:22:12] suriah : lol [2016-12-20 17:22:27] rapidtrades : lame [2016-12-20 17:22:35] suriah : how old are you people? [2016-12-20 17:22:43] sleger : "As 2016 comes to an end, we would like to take this opportunity to tell you how much we appreciated your business with us this year. As a token of our appreciation, we are extending a $1,000 worth of bitcoin bonus to our loyal customers and guess what? You are one of them!" [2016-12-20 17:22:52] sleger : it continues : [2016-12-20 17:22:59] sleger : "rapidtrades and habibi are not one of them" [2016-12-20 17:23:17] habibi : sleger: nice for them they supporting poor eth investors [2016-12-20 17:23:39] sleger : i dont think poor eth investors are one of them either [2016-12-20 17:25:06] sleger : are you all googling to see if you can get in ? [2016-12-20 17:25:22] suriah : I need a trading mentor to help get my life on track. Willing to travel to learn. Wont suck dick but will walk the dog [2016-12-20 17:26:06] sleger : suriah: i heard rapid recently acquired a couch [2016-12-20 17:26:39] suriah : what country? [2016-12-20 17:26:52] sleger : the united states of kingdom [2016-12-20 17:26:54] suriah : knock knock @rapidtrades [2016-12-20 17:26:59] laisee : and he has a 486Sx computer to trade on [2016-12-20 17:28:09] suriah : will need about a week [2016-12-20 17:30:01] sleger : oh price up what a non surprise [2016-12-20 17:30:37] rapidtrades : it's up $3 in 48 hrs [2016-12-20 17:31:06] sleger : it's also up 3$ in 5 minutes [2016-12-20 17:31:07] ett1 : suriah: you arnt even willing to suck cock? show some enthusiasm [2016-12-20 17:31:51] suriah : ett1: nah I dont think I can do it, prob could wind out a dutch rudder if we dont look in the eye [2016-12-20 17:33:39] ett1 : i know youd suck a dick for 1btc, if your friends or parents wouldnt find out [2016-12-20 17:34:20] sleger : please go to the chinese chat if you want to be gross [2016-12-20 17:34:35] ett1 : hahaha ill stop [2016-12-20 17:39:40] breadfan : how is the volume in quoine [2016-12-20 17:39:45] breadfan : sleger [2016-12-20 17:39:53] laisee : ZEC mooning today [2016-12-20 17:42:05] suriah : sleger: are you the bot king here? [2016-12-20 17:43:26] sleger : no [2016-12-20 17:43:37] sleger : breadfan: its decent [2016-12-20 17:43:44] sleger : you can probably check by yourself [2016-12-20 17:43:50] sleger : assuming you have internet [2016-12-20 17:46:17] breadfan : right [2016-12-20 17:47:25] suriah : Theres an exchange ripe for the picking and some decent BTC to be made. I cant code a bot but I can give the exchange [2016-12-20 17:48:04] suriah : you guys can clean up and in return one day give me a lesson [2016-12-20 17:49:47] aaaaa : what do you want to say with ripe here? [2016-12-20 17:50:40] aaaaa : may be it is absolutely clear but english is not my mother tongue so... [2016-12-20 17:50:56] aaaaa : suriah: [2016-12-20 17:51:25] suriah : awesome spread, decent volume, only 1-2 bots and plenty of mugs market buying [2016-12-20 17:51:45] suriah : theres actually 2 that are doing this on a daily basis [2016-12-20 17:51:49] laisee : suriah: where is this gld mine? [2016-12-20 17:52:02] suriah : and often trade well above spot [2016-12-20 17:53:03] suriah : I checked them out because I thought they were dodgy but its run by respected financial members and they have strong gov oversight so no shady shit [2016-12-20 17:53:30] laisee : my panties getting wet .... where is this fab gold mine ripe for plucking?