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[2016-12-19 16:58:31] l3f : I suspect whales are microbuying in prep for the pump
[2016-12-19 16:59:06] l3f : we haven't see this much buying since September
[2016-12-19 16:59:25] l3f : in the ramp up for the pump
[2016-12-19 16:59:27] rapidtrades : and how did that work out?
[2016-12-19 16:59:38] immackay : what if there is no pump
[2016-12-19 17:00:18] l3f : rapidtrades: it pumped of course
[2016-12-19 17:00:32] l3f : immackay: then they'll dump and buy back cheaper
[2016-12-19 17:00:34] rapidtrades : l3f: not rly no
[2016-12-19 17:00:53] rapidtrades : l3f: let me know how that brilliant plan works out
[2016-12-19 17:01:08] l3f : rapidtrades: sure rapidbears
[2016-12-19 17:01:39] l3f : fml
[2016-12-19 17:01:43] immackay : well it's gonna do something in the next few weeks, I don't think it can stay stable for longer than a week or two
[2016-12-19 17:01:52] l3f : I need to fix this shitty CVI
[2016-12-19 17:01:57] l3f : it's not in BTC, it's in dollars
[2016-12-19 17:02:14] l3f : If it can calculate netflow properly it'd be great
[2016-12-19 17:02:33] l3f : but alas
[2016-12-19 17:02:41] rapidtrades : huge gains for yuan today
[2016-12-19 17:02:45] rapidtrades : YUUUGE
[2016-12-19 17:03:04] rapidtrades : biggest gainz since dec1
[2016-12-19 17:05:24] rapidtrades : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-19/russian-ambassador-shot-in-turkish-capital-amid-syria-tensions
[2016-12-19 18:01:31] sleger : is that good for bitcoin ?
[2016-12-19 18:08:04] elmorte : Oh yeah, the epic Dec1
[2016-12-19 18:57:06] rapidtrades : sleger: no it wasn't
[2016-12-19 19:19:28] rapidtrades : the Russian ambasador died
[2016-12-19 19:21:18] thiago : rekt
[2016-12-19 19:25:57] mjones : xmr pumping
[2016-12-19 19:44:47] emperortrump : XMR beartrap
[2016-12-19 20:12:36] aroraprav : ETH again compromised
[2016-12-19 20:15:41] mirko : why compromised?
[2016-12-19 20:18:24] Cryptlex : probably just trolling, since they didn't post any article backing up their claim
[2016-12-19 20:20:32] habibi : not eth itself but people will connect that fuck up with development of eth itself i guess
[2016-12-19 20:22:07] habibi : i am suprised they pushing out security alert 3 days after discover of hack
[2016-12-19 20:28:09] mjones : eth almost new recent low
[2016-12-19 20:28:22] mjones : gotta break 0.00964
[2016-12-19 20:42:36] zanza : anyone in Germany?
[2016-12-19 20:42:43] zanza : sounds like a bad attack
[2016-12-19 20:51:38] rapidtrades : zanza: what atttack
[2016-12-19 20:52:05] rapidtrades : Truck plows into Christmas market in Berlin
[2016-12-19 20:52:21] rapidtrades : 9 dead
[2016-12-19 20:53:46] thiago : lolz rekt
[2016-12-19 21:01:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 500 @ 0.003796
[2016-12-19 21:10:31] mjones : damn fct
[2016-12-19 21:13:39] mjones : etc dumping
[2016-12-19 21:19:45] bingbongfly : Damn etc have been good to me lately, I love this shitcoin
[2016-12-19 21:20:37] bingbongfly : mjones: mate, I realised ETC has bought up fake twitter accounts, someone is manipulating the market bigtime. Let's see if we can pass ATH in a few months
[2016-12-19 21:20:47] bingbongfly : I ment fake twitter followers*
[2016-12-19 21:29:09] mjones : interesting
[2016-12-19 21:29:21] mjones : seems a few smaller whales take profit then some big btc whale buys the price back up
[2016-12-19 21:52:45] Apocalyptic : how did you come to such a conclusion ?
[2016-12-19 22:02:11] rapidtrades : SCAM
[2016-12-19 22:03:39] mjones : etc new high
[2016-12-19 22:03:59] mjones : did the news come out yet?
[2016-12-19 22:04:46] bingbongfly : holy etc
[2016-12-19 22:05:09] mjones : people are buying millions of ETC
[2016-12-19 22:05:41] mjones : 5 million ETC volume since the pump began
[2016-12-19 22:05:42] bingbongfly : yea I knew it, I'm not selling a single spot ETC, only my margin long
[2016-12-19 22:06:01] bingbongfly : Too bad I sold half of my ETC spot at 133...
[2016-12-19 22:06:12] rapidtrades : HEHE
[2016-12-19 22:06:33] mjones : about 120,000 ETC volume just now on polo
[2016-12-19 22:06:46] bingbongfly : hm well volume is pretty low stil
[2016-12-19 22:06:53] bingbongfly : if you compare to early days of etc
[2016-12-19 22:07:10] bingbongfly : But it's getting better, if BTCC actually launch ETC.. man we in for a ride
[2016-12-19 22:08:48] mjones : wish i knew where people are talking about etc
[2016-12-19 22:08:57] mjones : must be some underground china chat
[2016-12-19 22:10:31] bingbongfly : yeah.. their reddit is completely dead, bitcointalk is full of non-literates.. I havn't found a good place yet
[2016-12-19 22:11:28] mjones : now a few idiots will sell etc back down.
[2016-12-19 22:12:27] bingbongfly : taking profits is not idiotic
[2016-12-19 22:12:46] rapidtrades : SELL BITCORNS, BUY ETC
[2016-12-19 22:13:05] mjones : one nice looking bull flag though on etc
[2016-12-19 22:15:52] mjones : BTCC is mining ETC !
[2016-12-19 22:33:41] arbitrage001 : good morning
[2016-12-19 22:33:44] arbitrage001 : how things go
[2016-12-19 22:34:12] rapidtrades : 1, it's not morning
[2016-12-19 22:34:19] rapidtrades : 2, it's shit, same as always
[2016-12-19 22:34:39] arbitrage001 : didnt someone mention etc pump?
[2016-12-19 22:35:26] arbitrage001 : chinese market is big, you should get in before the real pump begin
[2016-12-19 22:36:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 800 @ 0.001504
[2016-12-19 22:36:10] mjones : etc polo pump wall
[2016-12-19 22:36:12] mjones : hell yeah
[2016-12-19 22:36:12] arbitrage001 : or short eth, long etc
[2016-12-19 22:36:45] arbitrage001 : short hype, long pump
[2016-12-19 22:37:26] mjones : can long 38,000 eth contracts right now
[2016-12-19 22:37:35] wurstgelee : that wall got dumped to shit in no time
[2016-12-19 22:37:53] mjones : lol someone dumped 20k
[2016-12-19 22:38:05] arbitrage001 : just some weak hand
[2016-12-19 22:38:08] mjones : they rather have 30 btc now
[2016-12-19 22:38:19] arbitrage001 : they need money for new year
[2016-12-19 22:41:56] mjones : new etc high
[2016-12-19 22:42:04] mjones : china waking up
[2016-12-19 22:42:21] arbitrage001 : 6:42am
[2016-12-19 23:35:33] mjones : btc inching up
[2016-12-19 23:53:12] Anita : I wanna dump 50k
[2016-12-19 23:56:11] rapidtrades : wtf
[2016-12-19 23:56:21] rapidtrades : who keeps making these chick accounts
[2016-12-19 23:56:35] rapidtrades : sleger: it's you isn't it?
[2016-12-20 00:02:32] sleger : they all start with an A
[2016-12-20 00:02:49] sleger : If it were me I would have made Anastasia
[2016-12-20 00:02:52] sleger : so it cant be me
[2016-12-20 00:04:22] micmix : and they are all green
[2016-12-20 00:04:24] QuantFocus : checks out
[2016-12-20 00:04:42] rapidtrades : ofc it's fu*cking him
[2016-12-20 00:04:58] rapidtrades : he's both weird and determined enough to do it
[2016-12-20 00:05:13] rapidtrades : Tetsuo is weird but too lazy
[2016-12-20 00:05:29] sleger : maybe I made Tetsuo too
[2016-12-20 00:05:55] rapidtrades : that would be scary
[2016-12-20 00:06:14] micmix : Tetsuo is green too, all green people are suspect ;-)
[2016-12-20 00:07:53] micmix : but someone really has to dump 50k btc on spot, this complete lack of volatility is booooring
[2016-12-20 00:16:24] mjones : think ETC will dump a bit here? http://i.imgur.com/NswjzQr.png
[2016-12-20 00:17:02] Angelika : rapidtrades: I love you and want to have your children
[2016-12-20 00:17:14] mjones : 0.00153 breaks on ETC it may be FOMO time
[2016-12-20 00:18:03] Rado : Angelika: I thought you are my wife? what happened?
[2016-12-20 00:22:30] rapidtrades : Angelika: good luck, I'm shooting blanks
[2016-12-20 00:22:42] rapidtrades : you can keep trying tho :)
[2016-12-20 00:23:56] Angelika : ?
[2016-12-20 00:30:31] arbitrage001 : hello, angelika
[2016-12-20 00:30:57] arbitrage001 : do you like tiny cock asian?
[2016-12-20 00:58:25] chatTT : what's shaking?
[2016-12-20 01:22:27] mjones : btc
[2016-12-20 01:22:47] mjones : in b4 BTC dumps and ETC pumps
[2016-12-20 01:28:43] mjones : 5540 CNY doesnt hold then taking the elevator down
[2016-12-20 01:32:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 1 @ 0.003951
[2016-12-20 01:48:32] arbitrage001 : in b4 price moves
[2016-12-20 01:48:40] arbitrage001 : btc pumps or dumps
[2016-12-20 01:54:48] mjones : zec going up
[2016-12-20 01:55:22] arbitrage001 : going to wait a bit before i go in again
[2016-12-20 01:55:40] arbitrage001 : loading up the bucket if it drops a lot
[2016-12-20 02:24:39] ett1 : clearly going to pump. id put 90/10 on it
[2016-12-20 02:31:59] zanza : that dump
[2016-12-20 02:34:54] zanza : ETC almost 15% of ETH
[2016-12-20 02:35:01] zanza : think thats a record stable level
[2016-12-20 02:51:39] mjones : etc new high
[2016-12-20 03:06:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 1 @ 0.003983
[2016-12-20 03:19:54] KingTuna : I have a feeling BTC is about to dump hard
[2016-12-20 03:20:23] KingTuna : big league
[2016-12-20 03:20:25] mjones : same
[2016-12-20 03:21:10] KingTuna : ETC I was thinking, but has pumped a lot, so dont know if I want to take that risk
[2016-12-20 03:21:55] mjones : ETC right at big resistance. see if some eager buyer is ready to break through or not
[2016-12-20 03:22:32] KingTuna : mjones: Thanks, what's the resistance level? 0.00152?
[2016-12-20 03:22:40] mjones : yup
[2016-12-20 03:23:06] KingTuna : Super. I'll buy on break or dump
[2016-12-20 03:23:16] KingTuna : BTC I just made an executive decision and got out of my long
[2016-12-20 03:23:17] mjones : btc http://i.imgur.com/Daf2cfj.png
[2016-12-20 03:23:36] mjones : 63 hours of sideways
[2016-12-20 03:23:46] KingTuna : What could this mean
[2016-12-20 03:23:56] KingTuna : Flirting with 800, or ready for a dump
[2016-12-20 03:24:26] mjones : basically next movement will signal the direction. unless it's a fake out and goes the other way quickly
[2016-12-20 03:25:11] KingTuna : Makes sense
[2016-12-20 03:52:53] French_Canadian : ETH got hacked!
[2016-12-20 03:55:53] CaptainDean : your mon got hacked
[2016-12-20 04:00:14] suriah : hi, I want some expert advice on how to turn my life around
[2016-12-20 04:02:32] CaptainDean : get to the closest bridge and jump
[2016-12-20 04:03:02] suriah : its pretty high up though
[2016-12-20 04:06:03] CaptainDean : that's the point
[2016-12-20 04:06:35] CaptainDean : where is Rapid when we need him ...
[2016-12-20 04:13:11] KingTuna : What would be a nice big healthy correction for BTC, that it would still be almost in bull mode? Down to 720?
[2016-12-20 04:14:46] l3f : Fucking kek
[2016-12-20 04:14:51] l3f : 2016 wants to go out want a bang
[2016-12-20 04:14:56] l3f : this is good for bitcoin somehow
[2016-12-20 04:35:00] Coconuter : Fl
[2016-12-20 04:35:15] Coconuter : Fa lse fla g
[2016-12-20 04:35:32] Coconuter : Ok i cant say its false alone
[2016-12-20 04:35:54] Coconuter : Hey look at stochastic
[2016-12-20 04:36:02] Coconuter : 4hrs
[2016-12-20 04:36:07] Coconuter : Sidelines
[2016-12-20 04:36:13] Coconuter : Fluent
[2016-12-20 04:36:26] Coconuter : Xmass pum
[2016-12-20 04:36:46] suriah : dont think btc is making a break upwards today. Looks to take a nap under 784
[2016-12-20 04:55:55] KingTuna : yeah BTC sell pressure
[2016-12-20 05:20:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 125 @ 0.004142
[2016-12-20 05:32:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 30 @ 0.001471
[2016-12-20 05:33:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 200 @ 0.001470
[2016-12-20 08:02:05] rapidtrades : wtf is up with this manipulated marlet man
[2016-12-20 08:10:51] rapidtrades : bitcorners were so happy when the Chinaman started buying in 2013
[2016-12-20 08:11:03] rapidtrades : little did they realize that was the year we lost bitcoin
[2016-12-20 08:14:54] rapidtrades : Comparing Trump to Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan and Helmut Kohl, Dalio said...
[2016-12-20 08:15:26] rapidtrades : ^ LOL before the election he was a cook who was gonna sink maarkets, now he's the new Reagan
[2016-12-20 08:15:56] rapidtrades : gotta love 'fundamental analysis'
[2016-12-20 08:16:47] micmix : poor Margaret Thatcher is turning in her grave
[2016-12-20 08:17:29] rapidtrades : yeah i doubt this jackass will live up to the expectations ...
[2016-12-20 08:17:45] rapidtrades : then again Reagan was a f*cking actor
[2016-12-20 08:18:28] billyboy402 : I am waiting for the first gay president
[2016-12-20 08:19:15] kbrn : You already have Obammy
[2016-12-20 08:19:51] rapidtrades : kbrn: he's Muslim not gay
[2016-12-20 08:20:33] rapidtrades : if he was gay he would have to throw himself off a roof like the great religion mandates
[2016-12-20 08:21:59] kbrn : Looks gay enough to me though
[2016-12-20 08:29:35] micmix : we have gay premier in Ontario. Kathleen Wynne is a lesbian
[2016-12-20 09:47:49] l3f : 780-790
[2016-12-20 09:47:54] l3f : zone of stability
[2016-12-20 09:51:03] rapidtrades : l3f: thank u for that insightful comment
[2016-12-20 09:51:21] l3f : rapidtrades: any time rapidreplies
[2016-12-20 09:51:40] l3f : are you long or losing money?
[2016-12-20 10:18:37] rapidtrades : I'm long ur momma
[2016-12-20 10:44:15] ett1 : billyboy402: barry was gay. micheal obama is a transvestite
[2016-12-20 10:46:40] ett1 : you has a tranny in the whitehouse
[2016-12-20 12:03:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 34 @ 0.009710
[2016-12-20 12:16:31] l3f : rapidlosses: so losing money?
[2016-12-20 12:21:01] thomaskikansha : big buys?
[2016-12-20 12:23:14] ett1 : i love the idiots who expect this to drop
[2016-12-20 12:23:32] ett1 : this is like the highest probablility bull pattern you can get
[2016-12-20 12:30:04] mjones : Dat etc buy
[2016-12-20 12:30:12] mjones : Broke resistance
[2016-12-20 12:30:41] thomaskikansha : went 1530 :o
[2016-12-20 12:31:29] thomaskikansha : didnt long it
[2016-12-20 12:43:38] mjones : Bitfinex close to new high btc
[2016-12-20 12:45:32] l3f : rapidlosses: ready for the pain?
[2016-12-20 12:50:13] thomaskikansha : 792.48 so close
[2016-12-20 12:51:38] suriah : break here or retrace in time for christmas bull
[2016-12-20 12:54:11] suriah : go go go
[2016-12-20 13:55:50] breadfan : pumpppp
[2016-12-20 13:59:00] ett1 : im writing a masters thesis on how bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are efficient markets. though id ask the traders. whats the best evidence you have that they arnt
[2016-12-20 13:59:39] elmorte : Lack of transparency in exchanges
[2016-12-20 14:00:01] elmorte : So the information available is asymmetrical
[2016-12-20 14:00:18] ett1 : GABI hedge fund would have access to the best information and talent
[2016-12-20 14:00:20] elmorte : Which I think is in the definition of efficient markets
[2016-12-20 14:00:31] ett1 : but theyve only tracked and outperformed btc by 1%
[2016-12-20 14:00:39] ett1 : i think thats random enough
[2016-12-20 14:01:44] ett1 : most of the smart money vcs arent trading
[2016-12-20 14:02:06] ett1 : theyre doing equities, which is probably pretty random results there getting too
[2016-12-20 14:26:29] rapidtrades : this market is a joke
[2016-12-20 14:32:08] ett1 : why
[2016-12-20 14:34:03] ett1 : it wont retrace if thats what your hoping for
[2016-12-20 14:34:44] ett1 : this is the bitcoin bull rocket long term breakout pattern. kindo of a classic
[2016-12-20 14:36:03] ett1 : turn off the arb bots. this isnt the time
[2016-12-20 14:37:02] rapidtrades : this time is different, got it
[2016-12-20 14:37:02] orly : ett1: cryptocurrencies being efficient markets? what does that even mean?
[2016-12-20 14:37:46] orly : it's mostly a pump and dump fest and hardly anyone acts rationally
[2016-12-20 14:37:53] ett1 : that its impossible to predict them consistently enough to make a profit greater than would be expected by random chance
[2016-12-20 14:37:56] orly : hell, most people don't even know what they are trading
[2016-12-20 14:39:01] rapidtrades : ett1: that's not what efficient markets means
[2016-12-20 14:39:28] mjones : Btc
[2016-12-20 14:39:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 18500 @ 795.40
[2016-12-20 14:39:47] ett1 : The efficient market hypothesis (EMH) is an investment theory that states it is impossible to "beat the market" because stock market efficiency causes existing share prices to always incorporate and reflect all relevant information
[2016-12-20 14:40:19] laisee : which is never really true, ofc
[2016-12-20 14:40:36] rapidtrades : the 'beating the market' part is just the implication of EMH, not part of the definition
[2016-12-20 14:40:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 7000 @ 793.97
[2016-12-20 14:40:42] ett1 : i was just creating some debate. i dont believe EMH
[2016-12-20 14:40:49] ett1 : ill prove it. this is going to 800
[2016-12-20 14:40:57] rapidtrades : ur an idiot
[2016-12-20 14:40:58] ett1 : before 780
[2016-12-20 14:41:06] laisee : the current price === the right price
[2016-12-20 14:41:09] ett1 : hahaa watch and see
[2016-12-20 14:41:41] rapidtrades : i hope u get an F u lazy bastard
[2016-12-20 14:42:12] laisee : Y? learn more about markets by trading than reading books
[2016-12-20 14:42:31] ett1 : maybe
[2016-12-20 14:42:39] laisee : except for those who neva learn zip ...
[2016-12-20 14:42:50] ett1 : books are full of wisdom, lots of shite trading books out there though. need to know the difference
[2016-12-20 14:43:59] ett1 : is bitcoin trading your full tiem job rapid?
[2016-12-20 14:44:16] ett1 : i want to be a bitcoin full time trading pro
[2016-12-20 14:44:30] ett1 : maybe i should be nice to you
[2016-12-20 14:45:20] ett1 : i went around all the banks in 2011, telling them i wanted to trade bitcoin but they had no positions
[2016-12-20 14:45:32] ett1 : how do i get my foot in the door
[2016-12-20 14:46:24] laisee : study finance, get an ingternship, find a rich, powerful relative working at senior level in an IB.
[2016-12-20 14:47:04] rapidtrades : there are few institutional investors in bitcoin
[2016-12-20 14:47:05] ett1 : i dropped out of oxford and became a rentboy
[2016-12-20 14:47:19] orly : fck the banks
[2016-12-20 14:47:34] orly : get a loan, invest 10% alcohol, 10% weed, trade the rest
[2016-12-20 14:47:38] laisee : join hedge fund, then.
[2016-12-20 14:48:46] ett1 : ive spoken to loads of hf managers, most are clueless
[2016-12-20 14:49:02] ett1 : everyone clueless
[2016-12-20 14:49:15] mjones : ah fake out pump
[2016-12-20 14:49:17] laisee : maybe the good ones are too busy to talk to u
[2016-12-20 14:49:19] mjones : btc dump incoming
[2016-12-20 14:50:01] ett1 : perhaps i gave up trying to convice people of stuff
[2016-12-20 14:50:31] ett1 : in 5 years pehaps, when theyre all setting up shop
[2016-12-20 14:50:37] ett1 : inevitable
[2016-12-20 14:51:13] ett1 : theyll be hiring anyone that reads coindesk
[2016-12-20 14:53:07] ett1 : and they want you to sit around and trade in the office. my systems give me trades like once a month.
[2016-12-20 14:53:43] ett1 : i should get some bullshit long short equity gig if im going to do it
[2016-12-20 14:53:48] ett1 : its the only game in town
[2016-12-20 14:53:57] laisee : join hedge fund, if their investment story matches yours
[2016-12-20 14:54:25] ett1 : i want to start one. how does olaf get $10m
[2016-12-20 14:55:09] ett1 : i see all these ICOs. ICO a hedge fund and end up in jail
[2016-12-20 14:57:10] ett1 : not really interested in the job market. you dont have any control
[2016-12-20 14:57:30] rapidtrades : u can't really join a fund without the proper degree these days
[2016-12-20 14:58:01] ett1 : ill start one when my profits allow it
[2016-12-20 14:58:08] rapidtrades : why bother
[2016-12-20 14:58:21] ett1 : why bother what
[2016-12-20 14:58:42] rapidtrades : once u get a couple mil, that should last u for the rest of ur life
[2016-12-20 14:58:48] rapidtrades : wwhy bother chasing more
[2016-12-20 14:59:02] ett1 : i think if you are actually a decent trader, better off getting a job or starting a business that is the source of income and grow your own money
[2016-12-20 14:59:21] ett1 : fuck convincing others to invest and wasting time
[2016-12-20 14:59:21] laisee : exactly - If u just want to trade then don't join a bank.
[2016-12-20 14:59:24] ett1 : ye
[2016-12-20 14:59:30] ett1 : but i dont have much capital
[2016-12-20 14:59:40] ett1 : i could have been a multimillionaire
[2016-12-20 14:59:54] ett1 : nobody trades bitcoin
[2016-12-20 15:00:05] ett1 : hard to convince investors
[2016-12-20 15:00:14] rapidtrades : that's a big part of the reason why it's so easy to make money here tho
[2016-12-20 15:00:16] ett1 : but its the only thing that works and could make big money
[2016-12-20 15:00:21] ett1 : frustrating
[2016-12-20 15:00:27] rapidtrades : no institutions to balance out the retail idiots
[2016-12-20 15:00:42] ett1 : ye, first mover advantage tho
[2016-12-20 15:00:50] ett1 : to those that do work it out i guess
[2016-12-20 15:01:53] rapidtrades : u can either job and move and use ur savings to built an account u can live on...or go back to school :)
[2016-12-20 15:02:05] ett1 : fuck school
[2016-12-20 15:02:09] rapidtrades : I butchered that but u know what i meant :)
[2016-12-20 15:03:07] Rado : ett1: it takes years to become a good trader
[2016-12-20 15:03:07] ett1 : i dont think droppign out of shcool has anything to do with things. im still capable. more my attitude
[2016-12-20 15:03:19] Rado : most people never make it
[2016-12-20 15:03:27] ett1 : ive been in bitcoin since $1 because i was trading
[2016-12-20 15:03:38] ett1 : so i know about brakouts
[2016-12-20 15:03:44] laisee : then u shd have some capital
[2016-12-20 15:03:50] ett1 : living costs
[2016-12-20 15:04:21] Rado : If you were since $1 and don't have 1000 BTC you should give up now
[2016-12-20 15:04:24] laisee : BTC goes from $1 to $1000 and u never saved any?
[2016-12-20 15:04:37] ett1 : ive had hundreds
[2016-12-20 15:04:42] ett1 : ive spent hundreds
[2016-12-20 15:05:07] ett1 : ive been profiting all the way, but spending profits. unable to invest a meaningful % more
[2016-12-20 15:05:28] ett1 : beleive me ive cut my costs as low as i can becuas ei hate spending money
[2016-12-20 15:05:33] ett1 : every $1 is like $10 to me
[2016-12-20 15:05:50] ett1 : because im expecting it to grow tha in 2 years maybe
[2016-12-20 15:06:04] arbitrage001 : price finally move
[2016-12-20 15:06:14] arbitrage001 : a dollar or two
[2016-12-20 15:06:17] rapidtrades : yeah it moved 0.4%
[2016-12-20 15:06:24] rapidtrades : let's all celebrate
[2016-12-20 15:06:30] arbitrage001 : we are all excited
[2016-12-20 15:06:50] ett1 : were all excited about the blockchain technology
[2016-12-20 15:06:56] arbitrage001 : a 1000 pump always start with 1 dollar movement
[2016-12-20 15:07:01] Rado : Is this the longest period for BTC not moving?
[2016-12-20 15:07:17] laisee : maybe BTC had died and we never noticed
[2016-12-20 15:07:23] Rado : lol
[2016-12-20 15:07:24] ett1 : it does this every time before a major pump
[2016-12-20 15:07:35] laisee : ... it's resting
[2016-12-20 15:07:41] ett1 : coiling
[2016-12-20 15:07:51] mjones : new bitfinex high
[2016-12-20 15:08:02] ett1 : bitfinex are crooks
[2016-12-20 15:08:13] laisee : successful crooks
[2016-12-20 15:08:13] rapidtrades : f*ck finex and its fakeass market
[2016-12-20 15:08:17] arbitrage001 : not 100% crook
[2016-12-20 15:08:24] arbitrage001 : which is better than most already
[2016-12-20 15:08:42] laisee : they gave back some ... nice
[2016-12-20 15:08:58] kingkrung : what do you think about the mail from bitmext regarding ETCWin Settlement?
[2016-12-20 15:09:03] ett1 : ye and who was going to risk holding the tokens
[2016-12-20 15:09:05] ett1 : i got out asap
[2016-12-20 15:09:22] ett1 : lie to i was golding all USD that i wasnt supposed to be affected
[2016-12-20 15:09:26] laisee : I never understood them
[2016-12-20 15:09:36] kingkrung : chances are hight, that etcwin=etc. so its quite possible thats sub 0.002 btc?
[2016-12-20 15:09:44] ett1 : my fault tho
[2016-12-20 15:09:56] laisee : but I made 0.65 BTC on a quick pump one day
[2016-12-20 15:10:10] ett1 : next time im holding 90% in wallet and hedge with a 10x short on here
[2016-12-20 15:10:36] laisee : a token that might be exchanged for a market that might trade ETC if it survices .... hmmm
[2016-12-20 15:10:54] laisee : ^survives^survices
[2016-12-20 15:11:06] arbitrage001 : laisee: we live in fantasy land
[2016-12-20 15:11:15] arbitrage001 : using mark to fantasy accounting practice
[2016-12-20 15:11:25] laisee : trading little nothings in the internets
[2016-12-20 15:11:52] arbitrage001 : everyone is profitable, just not realized yet
[2016-12-20 15:12:26] laisee : ... everyone must etcwin a PRIZE
[2016-12-20 15:13:03] arbitrage001 : a small dump will cause rekt
[2016-12-20 15:13:10] arbitrage001 : all my lights are on
[2016-12-20 15:13:27] arbitrage001 : so, traders going long must be maxing out their leverage
[2016-12-20 15:13:39] laisee : cool. time for some REKKAGE ...
[2016-12-20 15:14:28] laisee : rapidtrades: ZEC? What gives ...
[2016-12-20 15:15:39] arbitrage001 : my bot actually making profit lol
[2016-12-20 15:16:32] laisee : arbitrage001: bot.iq > arbitrage001.iq?
[2016-12-20 15:16:54] Rado : arbitrage001: mine are not
[2016-12-20 15:16:55] arbitrage001 : laisee: appear that way
[2016-12-20 15:16:57] Rado : only one
[2016-12-20 15:17:08] TB : laisee: well he built the bot
[2016-12-20 15:17:16] arbitrage001 : laisee: bot are just mechanic trade without the emotion
[2016-12-20 15:18:06] Rado : arbitrage001: the real test will come when BTC starts moving
[2016-12-20 15:18:25] arbitrage001 : Rado: already have limit in place
[2016-12-20 15:20:10] Rado : arbitrage001: limit is fine, but that doesn't mean you are not going to lose
[2016-12-20 15:21:30] arbitrage001 : Rado: bot is written in a way to reduce risk and profitable during normal time
[2016-12-20 15:21:59] Rado : arbitrage001: how do you reduce risk when BTC moves $50?
[2016-12-20 15:21:59] arbitrage001 : have a circuit breaker to stop during pump or dump time
[2016-12-20 15:22:39] arbitrage001 : stop the bot if it accumulate beyond certain size
[2016-12-20 15:22:39] Rado : you can't stop before the orders are filled
[2016-12-20 15:22:59] Rado : and what do you do with that accumulated position?
[2016-12-20 15:23:11] arbitrage001 : accumulate positiion is small
[2016-12-20 15:23:11] laisee : arbitrage001: then u could end up long b4 a serious dump ... LOSS
[2016-12-20 15:23:37] arbitrage001 : Rado: how long have you been trading?
[2016-12-20 15:23:38] ett1 : arbitrage...twice the risk, for half the profits
[2016-12-20 15:23:47] Rado : arbitrage001: BTC or in general?
[2016-12-20 15:23:55] arbitrage001 : in general
[2016-12-20 15:24:02] Rado : Started in 1997
[2016-12-20 15:24:14] arbitrage001 : cuz your question suggest you dont know how to control risk
[2016-12-20 15:24:19] arbitrage001 : indicate
[2016-12-20 15:24:47] ett1 : arbitrage001: you trade BTC & other markets still. or now only BTC
[2016-12-20 15:24:55] Rado : I do. What I am asking is how did you incorporate your knowladge in the bot
[2016-12-20 15:24:58] Rado : which is not easy
[2016-12-20 15:25:00] arbitrage001 : ett1: btc and forex
[2016-12-20 15:26:02] ett1 : like how much of your trading portfolio is BTC systems VS other investments (so FX)
[2016-12-20 15:26:23] arbitrage001 : ett1: btc really included forex
[2016-12-20 15:26:34] sleger : Rado: he thinks you can arb by buying on spot exchange at 780 and sell the swap at 790... and "lock in" profit....
[2016-12-20 15:26:47] Rado : sleger: hey
[2016-12-20 15:26:48] arbitrage001 : since most countries currencies are doing down the sink
[2016-12-20 15:27:01] Rado : I finally figured out the cron job and bash script
[2016-12-20 15:27:03] arbitrage001 : sleger: sure
[2016-12-20 15:27:07] sleger : Rado: good
[2016-12-20 15:27:17] ett1 : oh you play arb like BTCJPY BTCEUR etc
[2016-12-20 15:27:38] arbitrage001 : ett1: i only deal with usd, rmb and ringgit
[2016-12-20 15:29:20] Rado : sleger: Bot got started 4 times since yesterday
[2016-12-20 15:29:38] Rado : not sure if it stops taht often because it's on testnet
[2016-12-20 15:29:50] sleger : well you should know why it stops...
[2016-12-20 15:30:01] Rado : a couple of obscure errors
[2016-12-20 15:30:10] arbitrage001 : my bot stops when the position is 0
[2016-12-20 15:30:12] Rado : 2 times the market reported as not open
[2016-12-20 15:30:22] arbitrage001 : there is a logic error on the sample bot i think
[2016-12-20 15:30:29] sleger : arbitrage001: your bot will stop soon because the balance of your account will be zero
[2016-12-20 15:30:57] Rado : lol
[2016-12-20 15:31:02] ett1 : hahaha
[2016-12-20 15:31:19] Rado : arbitrage001: how much in the account with the bot
[2016-12-20 15:31:21] Rado : ?
[2016-12-20 15:31:29] arbitrage001 : just 2 btc
[2016-12-20 15:31:41] arbitrage001 : 2.0318 now
[2016-12-20 15:31:46] Rado : cool
[2016-12-20 15:32:09] ett1 : your looking to gow in BTC or in USD
[2016-12-20 15:32:14] ett1 : grow
[2016-12-20 15:32:17] arbitrage001 : ett1: usd
[2016-12-20 15:32:26] arbitrage001 : ett1: for the bot, btc
[2016-12-20 15:32:26] ett1 : kl same
[2016-12-20 15:32:41] arbitrage001 : ett1: btc price already hedged
[2016-12-20 15:32:59] ett1 : oh ok, in understand that
[2016-12-20 15:33:15] ett1 : i get you
[2016-12-20 15:33:25] sleger : he "locked in" the price
[2016-12-20 15:33:36] arbitrage001 : sleger: indeed
[2016-12-20 15:33:40] sleger : he can withdraw usd from bitmex should he need to
[2016-12-20 15:33:47] arbitrage001 : arthur will pigeon mail me the usd
[2016-12-20 15:33:56] laisee : they will email the $usd I hear
[2016-12-20 15:34:10] ett1 : like instead of having USD sitting on exchange, you could have 90% in BTC on your wallet and 10% of the BTC here with a 10x short to be flat
[2016-12-20 15:34:12] laisee : of a picture, at least
[2016-12-20 15:34:17] sleger : the only thing the pigeon will bring is poop
[2016-12-20 15:34:24] ett1 : i think thats better than trusting exchanges and easy to do
[2016-12-20 15:35:27] arbitrage001 : ett1: yes
[2016-12-20 15:35:38] arbitrage001 : ett1: so, bitmex will hopefully grow
[2016-12-20 15:35:48] arbitrage001 : and traders with it
[2016-12-20 15:36:08] Rado : funding is negative
[2016-12-20 15:36:13] ett1 : and you get paid interest i think from the short
[2016-12-20 15:36:25] ett1 : not sure how much it amount to
[2016-12-20 15:36:36] Rado : that might be a sign that a correction is coming :-)
[2016-12-20 15:37:05] sleger : ett1: at the moment you are paying interest, Rado just told you
[2016-12-20 15:37:37] ett1 : oh, is that usually the case. i thought it was the other way
[2016-12-20 15:37:58] sleger : on average
[2016-12-20 15:38:05] sleger : so far
[2016-12-20 15:38:29] ett1 : more traders are bearish here right now
[2016-12-20 15:39:51] sleger : that is an excellent indicator
[2016-12-20 15:39:56] sleger : that the price will go up
[2016-12-20 15:39:59] justinlooking : moon
[2016-12-20 15:41:56] zanza : EUR/USD got rekt
[2016-12-20 15:42:24] l3f : Jesus christ is everyone and their mom hedging now
[2016-12-20 15:42:36] l3f : I swear that APR is going to be 2% now
[2016-12-20 15:43:53] Rado : isn't WIN an easy short here?
[2016-12-20 15:44:03] Rado : it will settle the same as ETC price
[2016-12-20 15:44:10] l3f : Rado: assuming no secondary market
[2016-12-20 15:44:15] Rado : and ETC might correct from here
[2016-12-20 15:44:27] Rado : l3f: do you knwo of any exchange listing it?
[2016-12-20 15:44:29] Rado : know
[2016-12-20 15:44:33] arbitrage001 : Rado: no easy money in trading
[2016-12-20 15:44:44] l3f : Rado: well that's the risk isn't it
[2016-12-20 15:44:52] Rado : arbitrage001: there are a lot of easy trades
[2016-12-20 15:44:57] ett1 : id just short ETH
[2016-12-20 15:45:20] l3f : from my analysis eth will be a decent buy in maybe 2 weeks
[2016-12-20 15:45:24] Rado : traders are just try to find the hardest way to make money
[2016-12-20 15:45:31] l3f : net volume growing, CPI growing
[2016-12-20 15:45:38] ett1 : but i sweat ETH foundation have a pump team that gets activated when btc dumps
[2016-12-20 15:45:45] ett1 : they try and fuel it
[2016-12-20 15:46:43] l3f : eth foundation got so much btc it isn't funny
[2016-12-20 15:46:59] ett1 : yes they sold the ETH for BTC
[2016-12-20 15:47:06] ett1 : nice scheme
[2016-12-20 15:47:19] sleger : Rado: how is your short usdjpy
[2016-12-20 15:47:25] arbitrage001 : l3f: high expectation also high disappointment should it fails
[2016-12-20 15:47:28] l3f : well they took millions of btc on ICO
[2016-12-20 15:47:35] ett1 : and distracted everyone to keep btc price low to give them time to buy up with their dumb pumblicity stunts
[2016-12-20 15:47:44] l3f : I bought at ICO
[2016-12-20 15:47:47] l3f : ahah
[2016-12-20 15:47:49] l3f : the first ICO
[2016-12-20 15:47:51] l3f : ever
[2016-12-20 15:47:56] l3f : (the eth one)
[2016-12-20 15:48:13] l3f : you know, it didn't used to be called ICO, it used to be called selling premines
[2016-12-20 15:48:14] ett1 : no i think NXT did a crowdfund but it was private
[2016-12-20 15:48:36] l3f : or you can take VC money
[2016-12-20 15:48:38] sleger : the next big coin will be Tezos
[2016-12-20 15:48:42] ett1 : but either way i guess it was innovative/they had balls
[2016-12-20 15:49:10] l3f : the deal with ICO is that if you it looks like pump fuel
[2016-12-20 15:49:12] l3f : then ball to the wall
[2016-12-20 15:49:20] ett1 : but they just put up vitalik some kid as the fall huy to take all the responsibility if they got into trouble
[2016-12-20 15:49:30] ett1 : i still dont understnd eitherium
[2016-12-20 15:49:31] l3f : ah well eth is complicated
[2016-12-20 15:49:38] ett1 : its just a programming language
[2016-12-20 15:49:41] ett1 : right?
[2016-12-20 15:50:12] l3f : on the block chain
[2016-12-20 15:50:21] ett1 : thats part of the fraud...just to mystify you with jargon and technicalities to dirtract from the core scam
[2016-12-20 15:50:31] l3f : I won't call it a scam
[2016-12-20 15:50:33] l3f : it is innovative
[2016-12-20 15:50:38] l3f : but I bought for pump
[2016-12-20 15:50:42] ett1 : which is very simple in essence
[2016-12-20 15:50:43] l3f : I'm sure there are hardcore believers
[2016-12-20 15:51:05] l3f : sleger: tell me about the pump, why does it stall at 790?
[2016-12-20 15:51:05] ett1 : its like the dot com bubble
[2016-12-20 15:51:10] ett1 : im not complaining
[2016-12-20 15:51:27] ett1 : i missed LTC and ETH. i shorted ETH at the top actually
[2016-12-20 15:51:42] ett1 : when it was like $1bn vs btc $6bn market cap
[2016-12-20 15:51:58] sleger : l3f: why would I know ?
[2016-12-20 15:52:24] l3f : sleger: I thought you rig the system and the market
[2016-12-20 15:52:32] sleger : unzoom your chart
[2016-12-20 15:52:35] sleger : nothing stalled
[2016-12-20 15:52:52] l3f : yeah I know it's in the channels, slowly moving up
[2016-12-20 15:53:03] ett1 : 780 was long term high peak
[2016-12-20 15:53:19] ett1 : its just playing near the level
[2016-12-20 15:54:45] ett1 : uncertainty for short term traders because its a major price zone