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[2016-12-19 12:50:47] mjones : Not sure. Don't want to short in case it is fake out
[2016-12-19 12:52:19] arbitrage001 : we were so close to 800
[2016-12-19 12:52:34] arbitrage001 : if we make 800, we become closer to 1000
[2016-12-19 12:52:49] arbitrage001 : and if make 1000, we become closer to 1000000
[2016-12-19 12:55:05] rapidtrades : +!
[2016-12-19 12:55:15] rapidtrades : can't argue with that logic ^
[2016-12-19 13:00:58] BitMEX_Wally : martyix: The fake market maker on Testnet is pretty stupid, it just cancels all its orders and re-submits, rather than amending.
[2016-12-19 13:01:21] martyix : I see. Thanks
[2016-12-19 13:11:40] Gomezpl : go closer to 700;p
[2016-12-19 13:18:33] bitcoinrocket : Hey if i deposit will it be instant and can i trade it ?
[2016-12-19 13:19:03] bitcoinrocket : i dont understand whats up with the Funding Countdown???? Is that the time to wait when withdrawing funds ?
[2016-12-19 13:22:33] BitMEX_Wally : bitcoinrocket: You can trade immediately once your deposit has 1 block confirmation
[2016-12-19 13:23:45] BitMEX_Wally : The XBTUSD swap product has a funding charge every 8 hours, currently it is Funding Rate: -0.0013% in 6 hours, which means if you are long XBTUSD you will be paid 0.0013% of the value of your position, and if you are short you will pay.
[2016-12-19 13:25:26] BitMEX_Wally : If you trade the XBTUSD swap then there are funding charges but your position does not expire. Or instead you can trade the XBTZ16 future which has no funding charges but it expires on 30 December.
[2016-12-19 13:26:50] bitcoinrocket : Thank you so much my friend
[2016-12-19 13:26:57] bitcoinrocket : appreciate it!
[2016-12-19 14:05:20] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: that is because the sample MM comes with cancel all function
[2016-12-19 14:06:13] arbitrage001 : and some coders like to re-use existing function rather than figure out the detail
[2016-12-19 14:22:25] BitMEX_Sam : arbitrage001: No, he's referring to the fake MM that we run on Testnet
[2016-12-19 14:22:30] BitMEX_Sam : Not to anything you're running.
[2016-12-19 15:11:46] Rado : .
[2016-12-19 15:12:03] Angelika : ..
[2016-12-19 15:12:11] Rado : ...
[2016-12-19 15:22:33] BitMEX_Sam : ....
[2016-12-19 15:25:09] sleger : can I play ?
[2016-12-19 15:25:14] thiago : who farted?
[2016-12-19 15:25:32] BitMEX_Greg : you ruined it sleger
[2016-12-19 15:25:34] sleger : it was REKT i swear
[2016-12-19 15:31:50] Rado : sleger: USDJPY back under 117
[2016-12-19 15:32:11] Rado : made a pretty good trade shorting at 118
[2016-12-19 15:32:46] Rado : anyone a linux master here?
[2016-12-19 15:33:20] sleger : probably depends what you mean by master
[2016-12-19 15:34:17] Rado : I have a bash script that checks if my MM bot is runing and starts it if it's not
[2016-12-19 15:34:24] Rado : when I run the script it works fine
[2016-12-19 15:34:38] Rado : I added it to the cron, but it doesn't seem to do anything
[2016-12-19 15:34:44] Rado : it's supposed to run every min
[2016-12-19 15:34:58] habibi : Rado: have u tried to turn it off and on ?
[2016-12-19 15:35:27] sleger : Rado: how would you know that its not doing anything ?
[2016-12-19 15:35:29] Rado : habibi: that only works for Microsoft software
[2016-12-19 15:35:41] Rado : sleger: it doesn't start my MM bot
[2016-12-19 15:35:59] Rado : if I run the script manually it does
[2016-12-19 15:36:03] sleger : and if you run the script in the shell (not via cron) does it start it ?
[2016-12-19 15:36:07] sleger : ah ok
[2016-12-19 15:36:14] sleger : probably permission issues with cron
[2016-12-19 15:36:32] Rado : I added the job as root
[2016-12-19 15:36:39] sleger : cron doesnt have the same environment variables etc than your shell user
[2016-12-19 15:36:48] Rado : right
[2016-12-19 15:36:50] sleger : you may need to add them explicitly in the script
[2016-12-19 15:37:11] Rado : how do I do that?
[2016-12-19 15:37:32] sleger : http://askubuntu.com/questions/117978/script-doesnt-run-via-crontab-but-works-fine-standalone
[2016-12-19 15:37:53] sleger : without knowing your script cant answer, but look at the above and try to figure it out
[2016-12-19 15:38:17] sleger : adding stuff like : #!/bin/bash PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
[2016-12-19 15:39:49] Rado : sleger: thanks
[2016-12-19 15:39:53] Rado : will try it now
[2016-12-19 15:41:52] rapidtrades : wtf is this bullshit
[2016-12-19 15:42:32] rapidtrades : bitcoin is like a tired old man climbing up a mountain
[2016-12-19 15:42:45] rapidtrades : ....about to tumble over to his death
[2016-12-19 15:44:48] mjones : btc is on the launchpad
[2016-12-19 15:45:08] mjones : finishing being fueled
[2016-12-19 15:45:24] mjones : and liftoff is going to be everything sold over the last 3 years buying back in
[2016-12-19 15:45:40] BitMEX_Wally : Rado: Also try wrapping in a shell that runs the login scripts: `/bin/bash -l -c "/usr/local/somescript.sh"`
[2016-12-19 15:49:50] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: where is this, I am not clear
[2016-12-19 15:52:58] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: is there a way to do similar thing in windows
[2016-12-19 15:53:56] sleger : yes of course, install a virtual machine, put linux on it
[2016-12-19 15:54:05] Rado : ha ha
[2016-12-19 15:54:10] arbitrage001 : sleger: i need a simple solution
[2016-12-19 15:54:23] sleger : even simpler, reformat and install linux
[2016-12-19 15:54:39] sleger : you can use cygwin alternatively, but i have a feeling you wont understand either
[2016-12-19 15:54:40] arbitrage001 : i fried my new dell pc
[2016-12-19 15:55:02] arbitrage001 : imported from US, forget the voltage difference
[2016-12-19 15:55:11] sleger : it's just like arbitrage, not that hard, but you havent grasped it yet
[2016-12-19 15:55:19] sleger : oh wow, you are one of a kind
[2016-12-19 15:55:26] Rado : NYSE Suspends Trading To Fix "Glitch"
[2016-12-19 15:58:54] arbitrage001 : sleger: which distribution of linux is graphic friendly
[2016-12-19 15:59:09] sleger : thats exactly what you do not want
[2016-12-19 15:59:25] arbitrage001 : why?
[2016-12-19 15:59:26] sleger : you can install the UI on top of the distrib, something like ubuntu would work fine
[2016-12-19 16:01:08] habibi : arbitrage001: LFS will be good choose for new user :)
[2016-12-19 16:04:16] bigpoppa : sup all
[2016-12-19 16:13:11] BitMEX_Sam : re: linux, if you have Win10 you can just install the linux subsystem, which works quite a bit better than cygwin
[2016-12-19 16:13:15] BitMEX_Sam : ofc a VM is always a good decision
[2016-12-19 16:27:51] golem : BitMEX_Sam: hi . could you please check my withdrawal request
[2016-12-19 16:28:07] golem : i see this error message after email confirmation
[2016-12-19 16:28:12] golem : "orry, we could not find that page. Please check the URL."
[2016-12-19 16:28:26] BitMEX_Sam : golem: It's likely your withdrawal has timed out (30 minutes), please request again
[2016-12-19 16:30:00] golem : sorry It is a different account
[2016-12-19 16:30:04] golem : not golem
[2016-12-19 16:31:05] golem : do I need cancel this transfer and send it again ?
[2016-12-19 16:31:33] BitMEX_Greg : golem: I would suggest to log out of your golem account and log into your other account and try again
[2016-12-19 16:32:16] golem : yes now I see it is ok
[2016-12-19 16:32:18] golem : thanks
[2016-12-19 16:32:24] BitMEX_Greg : :+1:
[2016-12-19 16:48:57] l3f : BTC just gets more and more boring by the day
[2016-12-19 16:48:58] l3f : ffs move
[2016-12-19 16:49:33] l3f : ATR decreasing from 21 -> 13 now
[2016-12-19 16:49:56] immackay : l3f: yeah, honestly at this point I don't care what direction it goes, I just want it to do something other than this
[2016-12-19 16:50:29] l3f : BitMEX_Greg: adding bitcoin options soon?
[2016-12-19 16:50:36] l3f : futures are too boring now
[2016-12-19 16:54:04] BitMEX_Greg : l3f: Nothing too soon I'm afraid
[2016-12-19 16:54:18] BitMEX_Greg : Try playing with a higher leverage
[2016-12-19 16:56:36] rapidtrades : l3f: deribit
[2016-12-19 16:57:42] l3f : BitMEX_Greg: nty
[2016-12-19 16:58:04] l3f : tbqh
[2016-12-19 16:58:10] l3f : reading from my pump book
[2016-12-19 16:58:19] l3f : and looking at CVI (net flow)
[2016-12-19 16:58:22] l3f : there's a lot of buying
[2016-12-19 16:58:31] l3f : I suspect whales are microbuying in prep for the pump
[2016-12-19 16:59:06] l3f : we haven't see this much buying since September
[2016-12-19 16:59:25] l3f : in the ramp up for the pump
[2016-12-19 16:59:27] rapidtrades : and how did that work out?
[2016-12-19 16:59:38] immackay : what if there is no pump
[2016-12-19 17:00:18] l3f : rapidtrades: it pumped of course
[2016-12-19 17:00:32] l3f : immackay: then they'll dump and buy back cheaper
[2016-12-19 17:00:34] rapidtrades : l3f: not rly no
[2016-12-19 17:00:53] rapidtrades : l3f: let me know how that brilliant plan works out
[2016-12-19 17:01:08] l3f : rapidtrades: sure rapidbears
[2016-12-19 17:01:39] l3f : fml
[2016-12-19 17:01:43] immackay : well it's gonna do something in the next few weeks, I don't think it can stay stable for longer than a week or two
[2016-12-19 17:01:52] l3f : I need to fix this shitty CVI
[2016-12-19 17:01:57] l3f : it's not in BTC, it's in dollars
[2016-12-19 17:02:14] l3f : If it can calculate netflow properly it'd be great
[2016-12-19 17:02:33] l3f : but alas
[2016-12-19 17:02:41] rapidtrades : huge gains for yuan today
[2016-12-19 17:02:45] rapidtrades : YUUUGE
[2016-12-19 17:03:04] rapidtrades : biggest gainz since dec1
[2016-12-19 17:05:24] rapidtrades : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-19/russian-ambassador-shot-in-turkish-capital-amid-syria-tensions
[2016-12-19 18:01:31] sleger : is that good for bitcoin ?
[2016-12-19 18:08:04] elmorte : Oh yeah, the epic Dec1
[2016-12-19 18:57:06] rapidtrades : sleger: no it wasn't
[2016-12-19 19:19:28] rapidtrades : the Russian ambasador died
[2016-12-19 19:21:18] thiago : rekt
[2016-12-19 19:25:57] mjones : xmr pumping
[2016-12-19 19:44:47] emperortrump : XMR beartrap
[2016-12-19 20:12:36] aroraprav : ETH again compromised
[2016-12-19 20:15:41] mirko : why compromised?
[2016-12-19 20:18:24] Cryptlex : probably just trolling, since they didn't post any article backing up their claim
[2016-12-19 20:20:32] habibi : not eth itself but people will connect that fuck up with development of eth itself i guess
[2016-12-19 20:22:07] habibi : i am suprised they pushing out security alert 3 days after discover of hack
[2016-12-19 20:28:09] mjones : eth almost new recent low
[2016-12-19 20:28:22] mjones : gotta break 0.00964
[2016-12-19 20:42:36] zanza : anyone in Germany?
[2016-12-19 20:42:43] zanza : sounds like a bad attack
[2016-12-19 20:51:38] rapidtrades : zanza: what atttack
[2016-12-19 20:52:05] rapidtrades : Truck plows into Christmas market in Berlin
[2016-12-19 20:52:21] rapidtrades : 9 dead
[2016-12-19 20:53:46] thiago : lolz rekt
[2016-12-19 21:01:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 500 @ 0.003796
[2016-12-19 21:10:31] mjones : damn fct
[2016-12-19 21:13:39] mjones : etc dumping
[2016-12-19 21:19:45] bingbongfly : Damn etc have been good to me lately, I love this shitcoin
[2016-12-19 21:20:37] bingbongfly : mjones: mate, I realised ETC has bought up fake twitter accounts, someone is manipulating the market bigtime. Let's see if we can pass ATH in a few months
[2016-12-19 21:20:47] bingbongfly : I ment fake twitter followers*
[2016-12-19 21:29:09] mjones : interesting
[2016-12-19 21:29:21] mjones : seems a few smaller whales take profit then some big btc whale buys the price back up
[2016-12-19 21:52:45] Apocalyptic : how did you come to such a conclusion ?
[2016-12-19 22:02:11] rapidtrades : SCAM
[2016-12-19 22:03:39] mjones : etc new high
[2016-12-19 22:03:59] mjones : did the news come out yet?
[2016-12-19 22:04:46] bingbongfly : holy etc
[2016-12-19 22:05:09] mjones : people are buying millions of ETC
[2016-12-19 22:05:41] mjones : 5 million ETC volume since the pump began
[2016-12-19 22:05:42] bingbongfly : yea I knew it, I'm not selling a single spot ETC, only my margin long
[2016-12-19 22:06:01] bingbongfly : Too bad I sold half of my ETC spot at 133...
[2016-12-19 22:06:12] rapidtrades : HEHE
[2016-12-19 22:06:33] mjones : about 120,000 ETC volume just now on polo
[2016-12-19 22:06:46] bingbongfly : hm well volume is pretty low stil
[2016-12-19 22:06:53] bingbongfly : if you compare to early days of etc
[2016-12-19 22:07:10] bingbongfly : But it's getting better, if BTCC actually launch ETC.. man we in for a ride
[2016-12-19 22:08:48] mjones : wish i knew where people are talking about etc
[2016-12-19 22:08:57] mjones : must be some underground china chat
[2016-12-19 22:10:31] bingbongfly : yeah.. their reddit is completely dead, bitcointalk is full of non-literates.. I havn't found a good place yet
[2016-12-19 22:11:28] mjones : now a few idiots will sell etc back down.
[2016-12-19 22:12:27] bingbongfly : taking profits is not idiotic
[2016-12-19 22:12:46] rapidtrades : SELL BITCORNS, BUY ETC
[2016-12-19 22:13:05] mjones : one nice looking bull flag though on etc
[2016-12-19 22:15:52] mjones : BTCC is mining ETC !
[2016-12-19 22:33:41] arbitrage001 : good morning
[2016-12-19 22:33:44] arbitrage001 : how things go
[2016-12-19 22:34:12] rapidtrades : 1, it's not morning
[2016-12-19 22:34:19] rapidtrades : 2, it's shit, same as always
[2016-12-19 22:34:39] arbitrage001 : didnt someone mention etc pump?
[2016-12-19 22:35:26] arbitrage001 : chinese market is big, you should get in before the real pump begin
[2016-12-19 22:36:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 800 @ 0.001504
[2016-12-19 22:36:10] mjones : etc polo pump wall
[2016-12-19 22:36:12] mjones : hell yeah
[2016-12-19 22:36:12] arbitrage001 : or short eth, long etc
[2016-12-19 22:36:45] arbitrage001 : short hype, long pump
[2016-12-19 22:37:26] mjones : can long 38,000 eth contracts right now
[2016-12-19 22:37:35] wurstgelee : that wall got dumped to shit in no time
[2016-12-19 22:37:53] mjones : lol someone dumped 20k
[2016-12-19 22:38:05] arbitrage001 : just some weak hand
[2016-12-19 22:38:08] mjones : they rather have 30 btc now
[2016-12-19 22:38:19] arbitrage001 : they need money for new year
[2016-12-19 22:41:56] mjones : new etc high
[2016-12-19 22:42:04] mjones : china waking up
[2016-12-19 22:42:21] arbitrage001 : 6:42am
[2016-12-19 23:35:33] mjones : btc inching up
[2016-12-19 23:53:12] Anita : I wanna dump 50k
[2016-12-19 23:56:11] rapidtrades : wtf
[2016-12-19 23:56:21] rapidtrades : who keeps making these chick accounts
[2016-12-19 23:56:35] rapidtrades : sleger: it's you isn't it?
[2016-12-20 00:02:32] sleger : they all start with an A
[2016-12-20 00:02:49] sleger : If it were me I would have made Anastasia
[2016-12-20 00:02:52] sleger : so it cant be me
[2016-12-20 00:04:22] micmix : and they are all green
[2016-12-20 00:04:24] QuantFocus : checks out
[2016-12-20 00:04:42] rapidtrades : ofc it's fu*cking him
[2016-12-20 00:04:58] rapidtrades : he's both weird and determined enough to do it
[2016-12-20 00:05:13] rapidtrades : Tetsuo is weird but too lazy
[2016-12-20 00:05:29] sleger : maybe I made Tetsuo too
[2016-12-20 00:05:55] rapidtrades : that would be scary
[2016-12-20 00:06:14] micmix : Tetsuo is green too, all green people are suspect ;-)
[2016-12-20 00:07:53] micmix : but someone really has to dump 50k btc on spot, this complete lack of volatility is booooring
[2016-12-20 00:16:24] mjones : think ETC will dump a bit here? http://i.imgur.com/NswjzQr.png
[2016-12-20 00:17:02] Angelika : rapidtrades: I love you and want to have your children
[2016-12-20 00:17:14] mjones : 0.00153 breaks on ETC it may be FOMO time
[2016-12-20 00:18:03] Rado : Angelika: I thought you are my wife? what happened?
[2016-12-20 00:22:30] rapidtrades : Angelika: good luck, I'm shooting blanks
[2016-12-20 00:22:42] rapidtrades : you can keep trying tho :)
[2016-12-20 00:23:56] Angelika : ?
[2016-12-20 00:30:31] arbitrage001 : hello, angelika
[2016-12-20 00:30:57] arbitrage001 : do you like tiny cock asian?
[2016-12-20 00:58:25] chatTT : what's shaking?
[2016-12-20 01:22:27] mjones : btc
[2016-12-20 01:22:47] mjones : in b4 BTC dumps and ETC pumps
[2016-12-20 01:28:43] mjones : 5540 CNY doesnt hold then taking the elevator down
[2016-12-20 01:32:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 1 @ 0.003951
[2016-12-20 01:48:32] arbitrage001 : in b4 price moves
[2016-12-20 01:48:40] arbitrage001 : btc pumps or dumps
[2016-12-20 01:54:48] mjones : zec going up
[2016-12-20 01:55:22] arbitrage001 : going to wait a bit before i go in again
[2016-12-20 01:55:40] arbitrage001 : loading up the bucket if it drops a lot
[2016-12-20 02:24:39] ett1 : clearly going to pump. id put 90/10 on it
[2016-12-20 02:31:59] zanza : that dump
[2016-12-20 02:34:54] zanza : ETC almost 15% of ETH
[2016-12-20 02:35:01] zanza : think thats a record stable level
[2016-12-20 02:51:39] mjones : etc new high
[2016-12-20 03:06:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 1 @ 0.003983
[2016-12-20 03:19:54] KingTuna : I have a feeling BTC is about to dump hard
[2016-12-20 03:20:23] KingTuna : big league
[2016-12-20 03:20:25] mjones : same
[2016-12-20 03:21:10] KingTuna : ETC I was thinking, but has pumped a lot, so dont know if I want to take that risk
[2016-12-20 03:21:55] mjones : ETC right at big resistance. see if some eager buyer is ready to break through or not
[2016-12-20 03:22:32] KingTuna : mjones: Thanks, what's the resistance level? 0.00152?
[2016-12-20 03:22:40] mjones : yup
[2016-12-20 03:23:06] KingTuna : Super. I'll buy on break or dump
[2016-12-20 03:23:16] KingTuna : BTC I just made an executive decision and got out of my long
[2016-12-20 03:23:17] mjones : btc http://i.imgur.com/Daf2cfj.png
[2016-12-20 03:23:36] mjones : 63 hours of sideways
[2016-12-20 03:23:46] KingTuna : What could this mean
[2016-12-20 03:23:56] KingTuna : Flirting with 800, or ready for a dump
[2016-12-20 03:24:26] mjones : basically next movement will signal the direction. unless it's a fake out and goes the other way quickly
[2016-12-20 03:25:11] KingTuna : Makes sense
[2016-12-20 03:52:53] French_Canadian : ETH got hacked!
[2016-12-20 03:55:53] CaptainDean : your mon got hacked
[2016-12-20 04:00:14] suriah : hi, I want some expert advice on how to turn my life around
[2016-12-20 04:02:32] CaptainDean : get to the closest bridge and jump
[2016-12-20 04:03:02] suriah : its pretty high up though
[2016-12-20 04:06:03] CaptainDean : that's the point
[2016-12-20 04:06:35] CaptainDean : where is Rapid when we need him ...
[2016-12-20 04:13:11] KingTuna : What would be a nice big healthy correction for BTC, that it would still be almost in bull mode? Down to 720?
[2016-12-20 04:14:46] l3f : Fucking kek
[2016-12-20 04:14:51] l3f : 2016 wants to go out want a bang
[2016-12-20 04:14:56] l3f : this is good for bitcoin somehow
[2016-12-20 04:35:00] Coconuter : Fl
[2016-12-20 04:35:15] Coconuter : Fa lse fla g
[2016-12-20 04:35:32] Coconuter : Ok i cant say its false alone
[2016-12-20 04:35:54] Coconuter : Hey look at stochastic
[2016-12-20 04:36:02] Coconuter : 4hrs
[2016-12-20 04:36:07] Coconuter : Sidelines
[2016-12-20 04:36:13] Coconuter : Fluent
[2016-12-20 04:36:26] Coconuter : Xmass pum
[2016-12-20 04:36:46] suriah : dont think btc is making a break upwards today. Looks to take a nap under 784
[2016-12-20 04:55:55] KingTuna : yeah BTC sell pressure
[2016-12-20 05:20:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 125 @ 0.004142
[2016-12-20 05:32:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 30 @ 0.001471
[2016-12-20 05:33:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 200 @ 0.001470
[2016-12-20 08:02:05] rapidtrades : wtf is up with this manipulated marlet man
[2016-12-20 08:10:51] rapidtrades : bitcorners were so happy when the Chinaman started buying in 2013
[2016-12-20 08:11:03] rapidtrades : little did they realize that was the year we lost bitcoin
[2016-12-20 08:14:54] rapidtrades : Comparing Trump to Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan and Helmut Kohl, Dalio said...
[2016-12-20 08:15:26] rapidtrades : ^ LOL before the election he was a cook who was gonna sink maarkets, now he's the new Reagan
[2016-12-20 08:15:56] rapidtrades : gotta love 'fundamental analysis'
[2016-12-20 08:16:47] micmix : poor Margaret Thatcher is turning in her grave
[2016-12-20 08:17:29] rapidtrades : yeah i doubt this jackass will live up to the expectations ...
[2016-12-20 08:17:45] rapidtrades : then again Reagan was a f*cking actor
[2016-12-20 08:18:28] billyboy402 : I am waiting for the first gay president
[2016-12-20 08:19:15] kbrn : You already have Obammy
[2016-12-20 08:19:51] rapidtrades : kbrn: he's Muslim not gay
[2016-12-20 08:20:33] rapidtrades : if he was gay he would have to throw himself off a roof like the great religion mandates
[2016-12-20 08:21:59] kbrn : Looks gay enough to me though
[2016-12-20 08:29:35] micmix : we have gay premier in Ontario. Kathleen Wynne is a lesbian
[2016-12-20 09:47:49] l3f : 780-790
[2016-12-20 09:47:54] l3f : zone of stability
[2016-12-20 09:51:03] rapidtrades : l3f: thank u for that insightful comment
[2016-12-20 09:51:21] l3f : rapidtrades: any time rapidreplies
[2016-12-20 09:51:40] l3f : are you long or losing money?
[2016-12-20 10:18:37] rapidtrades : I'm long ur momma
[2016-12-20 10:44:15] ett1 : billyboy402: barry was gay. micheal obama is a transvestite
[2016-12-20 10:46:40] ett1 : you has a tranny in the whitehouse
[2016-12-20 12:03:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 34 @ 0.009710
[2016-12-20 12:16:31] l3f : rapidlosses: so losing money?
[2016-12-20 12:21:01] thomaskikansha : big buys?
[2016-12-20 12:23:14] ett1 : i love the idiots who expect this to drop
[2016-12-20 12:23:32] ett1 : this is like the highest probablility bull pattern you can get
[2016-12-20 12:30:04] mjones : Dat etc buy
[2016-12-20 12:30:12] mjones : Broke resistance
[2016-12-20 12:30:41] thomaskikansha : went 1530 :o
[2016-12-20 12:31:29] thomaskikansha : didnt long it
[2016-12-20 12:43:38] mjones : Bitfinex close to new high btc
[2016-12-20 12:45:32] l3f : rapidlosses: ready for the pain?
[2016-12-20 12:50:13] thomaskikansha : 792.48 so close
[2016-12-20 12:51:38] suriah : break here or retrace in time for christmas bull
[2016-12-20 12:54:11] suriah : go go go
[2016-12-20 13:55:50] breadfan : pumpppp
[2016-12-20 13:59:00] ett1 : im writing a masters thesis on how bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are efficient markets. though id ask the traders. whats the best evidence you have that they arnt
[2016-12-20 13:59:39] elmorte : Lack of transparency in exchanges
[2016-12-20 14:00:01] elmorte : So the information available is asymmetrical
[2016-12-20 14:00:18] ett1 : GABI hedge fund would have access to the best information and talent
[2016-12-20 14:00:20] elmorte : Which I think is in the definition of efficient markets
[2016-12-20 14:00:31] ett1 : but theyve only tracked and outperformed btc by 1%
[2016-12-20 14:00:39] ett1 : i think thats random enough
[2016-12-20 14:01:44] ett1 : most of the smart money vcs arent trading
[2016-12-20 14:02:06] ett1 : theyre doing equities, which is probably pretty random results there getting too
[2016-12-20 14:26:29] rapidtrades : this market is a joke
[2016-12-20 14:32:08] ett1 : why
[2016-12-20 14:34:03] ett1 : it wont retrace if thats what your hoping for
[2016-12-20 14:34:44] ett1 : this is the bitcoin bull rocket long term breakout pattern. kindo of a classic
[2016-12-20 14:36:03] ett1 : turn off the arb bots. this isnt the time
[2016-12-20 14:37:02] rapidtrades : this time is different, got it
[2016-12-20 14:37:02] orly : ett1: cryptocurrencies being efficient markets? what does that even mean?
[2016-12-20 14:37:46] orly : it's mostly a pump and dump fest and hardly anyone acts rationally
[2016-12-20 14:37:53] ett1 : that its impossible to predict them consistently enough to make a profit greater than would be expected by random chance
[2016-12-20 14:37:56] orly : hell, most people don't even know what they are trading
[2016-12-20 14:39:01] rapidtrades : ett1: that's not what efficient markets means
[2016-12-20 14:39:28] mjones : Btc
[2016-12-20 14:39:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 18500 @ 795.40
[2016-12-20 14:39:47] ett1 : The efficient market hypothesis (EMH) is an investment theory that states it is impossible to "beat the market" because stock market efficiency causes existing share prices to always incorporate and reflect all relevant information
[2016-12-20 14:40:19] laisee : which is never really true, ofc
[2016-12-20 14:40:36] rapidtrades : the 'beating the market' part is just the implication of EMH, not part of the definition
[2016-12-20 14:40:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 7000 @ 793.97
[2016-12-20 14:40:42] ett1 : i was just creating some debate. i dont believe EMH
[2016-12-20 14:40:49] ett1 : ill prove it. this is going to 800
[2016-12-20 14:40:57] rapidtrades : ur an idiot
[2016-12-20 14:40:58] ett1 : before 780
[2016-12-20 14:41:06] laisee : the current price === the right price
[2016-12-20 14:41:09] ett1 : hahaa watch and see
[2016-12-20 14:41:41] rapidtrades : i hope u get an F u lazy bastard
[2016-12-20 14:42:12] laisee : Y? learn more about markets by trading than reading books
[2016-12-20 14:42:31] ett1 : maybe
[2016-12-20 14:42:39] laisee : except for those who neva learn zip ...
[2016-12-20 14:42:50] ett1 : books are full of wisdom, lots of shite trading books out there though. need to know the difference
[2016-12-20 14:43:59] ett1 : is bitcoin trading your full tiem job rapid?
[2016-12-20 14:44:16] ett1 : i want to be a bitcoin full time trading pro
[2016-12-20 14:44:30] ett1 : maybe i should be nice to you
[2016-12-20 14:45:20] ett1 : i went around all the banks in 2011, telling them i wanted to trade bitcoin but they had no positions
[2016-12-20 14:45:32] ett1 : how do i get my foot in the door
[2016-12-20 14:46:24] laisee : study finance, get an ingternship, find a rich, powerful relative working at senior level in an IB.
[2016-12-20 14:47:04] rapidtrades : there are few institutional investors in bitcoin
[2016-12-20 14:47:05] ett1 : i dropped out of oxford and became a rentboy
[2016-12-20 14:47:19] orly : fck the banks
[2016-12-20 14:47:34] orly : get a loan, invest 10% alcohol, 10% weed, trade the rest
[2016-12-20 14:47:38] laisee : join hedge fund, then.
[2016-12-20 14:48:46] ett1 : ive spoken to loads of hf managers, most are clueless
[2016-12-20 14:49:02] ett1 : everyone clueless
[2016-12-20 14:49:15] mjones : ah fake out pump
[2016-12-20 14:49:17] laisee : maybe the good ones are too busy to talk to u
[2016-12-20 14:49:19] mjones : btc dump incoming
[2016-12-20 14:50:01] ett1 : perhaps i gave up trying to convice people of stuff
[2016-12-20 14:50:31] ett1 : in 5 years pehaps, when theyre all setting up shop
[2016-12-20 14:50:37] ett1 : inevitable
[2016-12-20 14:51:13] ett1 : theyll be hiring anyone that reads coindesk
[2016-12-20 14:53:07] ett1 : and they want you to sit around and trade in the office. my systems give me trades like once a month.
[2016-12-20 14:53:43] ett1 : i should get some bullshit long short equity gig if im going to do it
[2016-12-20 14:53:48] ett1 : its the only game in town
[2016-12-20 14:53:57] laisee : join hedge fund, if their investment story matches yours
[2016-12-20 14:54:25] ett1 : i want to start one. how does olaf get $10m
[2016-12-20 14:55:09] ett1 : i see all these ICOs. ICO a hedge fund and end up in jail
[2016-12-20 14:57:10] ett1 : not really interested in the job market. you dont have any control
[2016-12-20 14:57:30] rapidtrades : u can't really join a fund without the proper degree these days
[2016-12-20 14:58:01] ett1 : ill start one when my profits allow it
[2016-12-20 14:58:08] rapidtrades : why bother
[2016-12-20 14:58:21] ett1 : why bother what
[2016-12-20 14:58:42] rapidtrades : once u get a couple mil, that should last u for the rest of ur life
[2016-12-20 14:58:48] rapidtrades : wwhy bother chasing more
[2016-12-20 14:59:02] ett1 : i think if you are actually a decent trader, better off getting a job or starting a business that is the source of income and grow your own money
[2016-12-20 14:59:21] ett1 : fuck convincing others to invest and wasting time
[2016-12-20 14:59:21] laisee : exactly - If u just want to trade then don't join a bank.
[2016-12-20 14:59:24] ett1 : ye
[2016-12-20 14:59:30] ett1 : but i dont have much capital
[2016-12-20 14:59:40] ett1 : i could have been a multimillionaire
[2016-12-20 14:59:54] ett1 : nobody trades bitcoin
[2016-12-20 15:00:05] ett1 : hard to convince investors
[2016-12-20 15:00:14] rapidtrades : that's a big part of the reason why it's so easy to make money here tho
[2016-12-20 15:00:16] ett1 : but its the only thing that works and could make big money
[2016-12-20 15:00:21] ett1 : frustrating
[2016-12-20 15:00:27] rapidtrades : no institutions to balance out the retail idiots
[2016-12-20 15:00:42] ett1 : ye, first mover advantage tho
[2016-12-20 15:00:50] ett1 : to those that do work it out i guess
[2016-12-20 15:01:53] rapidtrades : u can either job and move and use ur savings to built an account u can live on...or go back to school :)
[2016-12-20 15:02:05] ett1 : fuck school
[2016-12-20 15:02:09] rapidtrades : I butchered that but u know what i meant :)
[2016-12-20 15:03:07] Rado : ett1: it takes years to become a good trader
[2016-12-20 15:03:07] ett1 : i dont think droppign out of shcool has anything to do with things. im still capable. more my attitude
[2016-12-20 15:03:19] Rado : most people never make it
[2016-12-20 15:03:27] ett1 : ive been in bitcoin since $1 because i was trading
[2016-12-20 15:03:38] ett1 : so i know about brakouts
[2016-12-20 15:03:44] laisee : then u shd have some capital
[2016-12-20 15:03:50] ett1 : living costs
[2016-12-20 15:04:21] Rado : If you were since $1 and don't have 1000 BTC you should give up now
[2016-12-20 15:04:24] laisee : BTC goes from $1 to $1000 and u never saved any?
[2016-12-20 15:04:37] ett1 : ive had hundreds
[2016-12-20 15:04:42] ett1 : ive spent hundreds
[2016-12-20 15:05:07] ett1 : ive been profiting all the way, but spending profits. unable to invest a meaningful % more
[2016-12-20 15:05:28] ett1 : beleive me ive cut my costs as low as i can becuas ei hate spending money
[2016-12-20 15:05:33] ett1 : every $1 is like $10 to me
[2016-12-20 15:05:50] ett1 : because im expecting it to grow tha in 2 years maybe
[2016-12-20 15:06:04] arbitrage001 : price finally move
[2016-12-20 15:06:14] arbitrage001 : a dollar or two
[2016-12-20 15:06:17] rapidtrades : yeah it moved 0.4%
[2016-12-20 15:06:24] rapidtrades : let's all celebrate
[2016-12-20 15:06:30] arbitrage001 : we are all excited
[2016-12-20 15:06:50] ett1 : were all excited about the blockchain technology
[2016-12-20 15:06:56] arbitrage001 : a 1000 pump always start with 1 dollar movement
[2016-12-20 15:07:01] Rado : Is this the longest period for BTC not moving?
[2016-12-20 15:07:17] laisee : maybe BTC had died and we never noticed
[2016-12-20 15:07:23] Rado : lol
[2016-12-20 15:07:24] ett1 : it does this every time before a major pump
[2016-12-20 15:07:35] laisee : ... it's resting
[2016-12-20 15:07:41] ett1 : coiling
[2016-12-20 15:07:51] mjones : new bitfinex high
[2016-12-20 15:08:02] ett1 : bitfinex are crooks
[2016-12-20 15:08:13] laisee : successful crooks
[2016-12-20 15:08:13] rapidtrades : f*ck finex and its fakeass market
[2016-12-20 15:08:17] arbitrage001 : not 100% crook
[2016-12-20 15:08:24] arbitrage001 : which is better than most already
[2016-12-20 15:08:42] laisee : they gave back some ... nice
[2016-12-20 15:08:58] kingkrung : what do you think about the mail from bitmext regarding ETCWin Settlement?
[2016-12-20 15:09:03] ett1 : ye and who was going to risk holding the tokens
[2016-12-20 15:09:05] ett1 : i got out asap
[2016-12-20 15:09:22] ett1 : lie to i was golding all USD that i wasnt supposed to be affected
[2016-12-20 15:09:26] laisee : I never understood them
[2016-12-20 15:09:36] kingkrung : chances are hight, that etcwin=etc. so its quite possible thats sub 0.002 btc?
[2016-12-20 15:09:44] ett1 : my fault tho
[2016-12-20 15:09:56] laisee : but I made 0.65 BTC on a quick pump one day
[2016-12-20 15:10:10] ett1 : next time im holding 90% in wallet and hedge with a 10x short on here
[2016-12-20 15:10:36] laisee : a token that might be exchanged for a market that might trade ETC if it survices .... hmmm
[2016-12-20 15:10:54] laisee : ^survives^survices
[2016-12-20 15:11:06] arbitrage001 : laisee: we live in fantasy land
[2016-12-20 15:11:15] arbitrage001 : using mark to fantasy accounting practice
[2016-12-20 15:11:25] laisee : trading little nothings in the internets
[2016-12-20 15:11:52] arbitrage001 : everyone is profitable, just not realized yet
[2016-12-20 15:12:26] laisee : ... everyone must etcwin a PRIZE
[2016-12-20 15:13:03] arbitrage001 : a small dump will cause rekt
[2016-12-20 15:13:10] arbitrage001 : all my lights are on
[2016-12-20 15:13:27] arbitrage001 : so, traders going long must be maxing out their leverage
[2016-12-20 15:13:39] laisee : cool. time for some REKKAGE ...
[2016-12-20 15:14:28] laisee : rapidtrades: ZEC? What gives ...
[2016-12-20 15:15:39] arbitrage001 : my bot actually making profit lol
[2016-12-20 15:16:32] laisee : arbitrage001: bot.iq > arbitrage001.iq?
[2016-12-20 15:16:54] Rado : arbitrage001: mine are not
[2016-12-20 15:16:55] arbitrage001 : laisee: appear that way
[2016-12-20 15:16:57] Rado : only one
[2016-12-20 15:17:08] TB : laisee: well he built the bot
[2016-12-20 15:17:16] arbitrage001 : laisee: bot are just mechanic trade without the emotion
[2016-12-20 15:18:06] Rado : arbitrage001: the real test will come when BTC starts moving
[2016-12-20 15:18:25] arbitrage001 : Rado: already have limit in place
[2016-12-20 15:20:10] Rado : arbitrage001: limit is fine, but that doesn't mean you are not going to lose
[2016-12-20 15:21:30] arbitrage001 : Rado: bot is written in a way to reduce risk and profitable during normal time
[2016-12-20 15:21:59] Rado : arbitrage001: how do you reduce risk when BTC moves $50?
[2016-12-20 15:21:59] arbitrage001 : have a circuit breaker to stop during pump or dump time
[2016-12-20 15:22:39] arbitrage001 : stop the bot if it accumulate beyond certain size
[2016-12-20 15:22:39] Rado : you can't stop before the orders are filled
[2016-12-20 15:22:59] Rado : and what do you do with that accumulated position?
[2016-12-20 15:23:11] arbitrage001 : accumulate positiion is small
[2016-12-20 15:23:11] laisee : arbitrage001: then u could end up long b4 a serious dump ... LOSS
[2016-12-20 15:23:37] arbitrage001 : Rado: how long have you been trading?
[2016-12-20 15:23:38] ett1 : arbitrage...twice the risk, for half the profits
[2016-12-20 15:23:47] Rado : arbitrage001: BTC or in general?
[2016-12-20 15:23:55] arbitrage001 : in general
[2016-12-20 15:24:02] Rado : Started in 1997
[2016-12-20 15:24:14] arbitrage001 : cuz your question suggest you dont know how to control risk
[2016-12-20 15:24:19] arbitrage001 : indicate
[2016-12-20 15:24:47] ett1 : arbitrage001: you trade BTC & other markets still. or now only BTC
[2016-12-20 15:24:55] Rado : I do. What I am asking is how did you incorporate your knowladge in the bot
[2016-12-20 15:24:58] Rado : which is not easy
[2016-12-20 15:25:00] arbitrage001 : ett1: btc and forex
[2016-12-20 15:26:02] ett1 : like how much of your trading portfolio is BTC systems VS other investments (so FX)
[2016-12-20 15:26:23] arbitrage001 : ett1: btc really included forex
[2016-12-20 15:26:34] sleger : Rado: he thinks you can arb by buying on spot exchange at 780 and sell the swap at 790... and "lock in" profit....
[2016-12-20 15:26:47] Rado : sleger: hey
[2016-12-20 15:26:48] arbitrage001 : since most countries currencies are doing down the sink
[2016-12-20 15:27:01] Rado : I finally figured out the cron job and bash script
[2016-12-20 15:27:03] arbitrage001 : sleger: sure
[2016-12-20 15:27:07] sleger : Rado: good
[2016-12-20 15:27:17] ett1 : oh you play arb like BTCJPY BTCEUR etc
[2016-12-20 15:27:38] arbitrage001 : ett1: i only deal with usd, rmb and ringgit
[2016-12-20 15:29:20] Rado : sleger: Bot got started 4 times since yesterday
[2016-12-20 15:29:38] Rado : not sure if it stops taht often because it's on testnet
[2016-12-20 15:29:50] sleger : well you should know why it stops...