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[2016-12-16 05:33:55] l3f : "Predicted Funding Rate: 0.2724% in 14 hours"
[2016-12-16 05:33:55] l3f : fucking lol
[2016-12-16 05:33:59] iisss : $10 diff between Bitmex and Huobi
[2016-12-16 05:34:03] mjones : right now okcoin quarterly is at $787 and bitmex is $786
[2016-12-16 05:34:07] mjones : so that's why i thought they'd be close
[2016-12-16 05:34:10] aethlios : first time in btc history such frenzee about the new quarterlies, tradingview talk about that also.
[2016-12-16 05:34:36] iisss : oh, contract divergance to spot.
[2016-12-16 05:34:50] iisss : makes sense
[2016-12-16 05:36:19] mjones : aethlios: yeah i'm surprised at the quarterly futures talk
[2016-12-16 05:36:33] mjones : okcoin seems to move the price and their futures platform is big
[2016-12-16 05:36:45] mjones : but i didnt think it's big enough that the whole btc market cared about it
[2016-12-16 05:37:24] aethlios : yes they have much control of the market, but bitmex starts to make it more difficult.
[2016-12-16 05:37:40] aethlios : for them.
[2016-12-16 05:38:18] mjones : i think bitmex just follows
[2016-12-16 05:38:52] mjones : not making it more difficult at all
[2016-12-16 05:39:44] aethlios : i mean because another future market exists with real volume, make it more diffucult for them to manipulate.
[2016-12-16 05:40:34] lockhedge : aethlios: what premium do you expect here and for new okc quarterlies?
[2016-12-16 05:41:23] mjones : eh. i dont think so. at least not yet. i doubt china men are having to send btc over to bitmex because they are not following what they do
[2016-12-16 05:42:13] aethlios : lockhedge: finex rates are 0.075% daily, so a natural equivalent could be 0.075%*105*780= 61 usd.
[2016-12-16 05:42:41] aethlios : 0.075%*105*780= 61
[2016-12-16 05:43:06] aethlios : 0.075%x105x780= 61
[2016-12-16 05:43:13] l3f : does okcoin have a live chat?
[2016-12-16 05:43:28] mjones : no
[2016-12-16 05:44:03] l3f : where do chinese traders chat?
[2016-12-16 05:44:18] lockhedge : aethlios: F-XBT:USD-MAR17 at cryptofacilities has less than $40
[2016-12-16 05:44:31] mjones : ask in the chinese trollbox
[2016-12-16 05:44:39] mjones : i'm not sure myself
[2016-12-16 05:46:45] mjones : after that dump china is 10 cny away from a new high
[2016-12-16 05:46:54] lockhedge : CME CNY/USD futures for March at 1.45% premium http://www.cmegroup.com/europe/products/fx/emerging-markets/usd-cny.html
[2016-12-16 05:48:07] mjones : hopefully if it does pump it'll hold off for 2 hours
[2016-12-16 05:48:44] mjones : fuck
[2016-12-16 05:48:47] mjones : there goes china
[2016-12-16 05:48:50] mjones : giving 0 fucks
[2016-12-16 05:49:36] l3f : The fomo is out of control
[2016-12-16 05:50:16] CaptainDean : this is jump a small jump
[2016-12-16 05:50:18] CaptainDean : ;-)
[2016-12-16 05:50:18] mjones : was 36 CNY away from 3 year high
[2016-12-16 05:50:51] mjones : any short closing / stops / fomo buys can shoot it way up quickly
[2016-12-16 05:51:48] CaptainDean : or not !
[2016-12-16 05:52:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 1220 @ 791.64
[2016-12-16 05:52:14] l3f : wew lads
[2016-12-16 05:52:16] mjones : when will the buying stop
[2016-12-16 05:52:29] l3f : never apparently
[2016-12-16 05:52:55] mjones : $10 moves never felt so good
[2016-12-16 05:53:09] mjones : soon it'll be $50 and $100 moves
[2016-12-16 05:53:27] mjones : and so far bitmex hasnt lagged so good job
[2016-12-16 05:58:11] iisss : is this the settlement pump?
[2016-12-16 06:06:47] mjones : perhaps
[2016-12-16 06:07:13] mjones : if it cant break 5555 CNY then close / shrot
[2016-12-16 06:07:16] mjones : short*
[2016-12-16 06:07:49] mjones : or even if it does break then watch out for the fake out pump / dump
[2016-12-16 06:27:15] CaptainDean : who's buying the dip ? :P
[2016-12-16 06:27:43] mjones : buying the dip means price is going down...
[2016-12-16 06:28:26] CaptainDean : ;-)
[2016-12-16 06:29:10] arbitrage001 : i am buying this dip
[2016-12-16 06:36:28] l3f : so much euphoria
[2016-12-16 06:37:06] aethlios : l3f: and still below 800
[2016-12-16 06:37:15] l3f : not even moving
[2016-12-16 06:37:37] aethlios : it is like a horse before the door opens to race
[2016-12-16 06:38:51] mjones : almost to new quarterly time
[2016-12-16 06:39:04] mjones : couple more lines of cocaine and we'll be there
[2016-12-16 06:39:26] arbitrage001 : mjones: what is your plan with the new qualerly?
[2016-12-16 06:39:47] mjones : if i can long in low thanks to MM with a 20k wall i will
[2016-12-16 06:39:56] mjones : i'll be watching 0kcoin quarterly
[2016-12-16 06:40:06] mjones : and if it is going up then i'll long here
[2016-12-16 06:40:13] arbitrage001 : you expect low premium from MM?
[2016-12-16 06:40:18] mjones : but i wont be longing if it's like $60 higher than spot
[2016-12-16 06:40:34] mjones : hopefully i get in at like $795
[2016-12-16 06:40:42] mjones : by some idiot
[2016-12-16 06:40:55] mjones : we'll see. first time for me here like everyone else
[2016-12-16 06:41:22] mjones : okcoin used to have idiots low balling. last time though you were lucky to get in $40 higher
[2016-12-16 06:41:32] arbitrage001 : i expect premium to be higher than 60
[2016-12-16 06:41:40] arbitrage001 : for new qualterly
[2016-12-16 06:41:57] mjones : yeah. if someone has low ball orders i will be longing into them
[2016-12-16 06:42:15] mjones : right now anything under $830 i'll long
[2016-12-16 06:42:50] mjones : 78 minutes to go though.
[2016-12-16 06:43:06] arbitrage001 : only 78 mins?
[2016-12-16 06:43:15] arbitrage001 : thought a few hours away
[2016-12-16 06:43:25] arbitrage001 : like 5 hours 17 mins
[2016-12-16 06:43:45] mjones : i know it takes like 8 minutes for okcoin new quarterly to happen or some shit like that if i remember correctly
[2016-12-16 06:43:54] mjones : so bitmex may happen first
[2016-12-16 06:43:57] mjones : will be interesting
[2016-12-16 06:44:06] arbitrage001 : loinging swap now also looks cheap
[2016-12-16 06:44:07] mjones : 1 hour 16 minutes
[2016-12-16 06:44:10] aethlios : I guess from now on the new quarterlies will be for btc what FOMC is for usd.
[2016-12-16 06:44:19] arbitrage001 : funding rate is lower than the premium
[2016-12-16 06:44:28] lockhedge : okc quarterlies and XBTH17 are listing at 8 UTC afaik
[2016-12-16 06:44:48] mjones : 1 hour 15 minutes
[2016-12-16 06:48:17] aaaaa : what is the .XBT indicator at the candlestick graph stands for??
[2016-12-16 06:48:42] aaaaa : why it is so low compared to the spot price at this moment?
[2016-12-16 06:48:54] aethlios : aaaaa: the index which the future is quoted
[2016-12-16 06:49:09] aethlios : kaiko price
[2016-12-16 06:49:28] aaaaa : in my computer it is around 774 just now
[2016-12-16 06:49:34] aaaaa : and kaiko 777
[2016-12-16 06:49:40] aaaaa : it doesnt make sense
[2016-12-16 06:49:49] ytaews : I see 779
[2016-12-16 06:50:06] aethlios : 779 swap 777.33 kaiko
[2016-12-16 06:50:08] aaaaa : I am talking about the bule line
[2016-12-16 06:50:20] aaaaa : blue
[2016-12-16 06:50:22] lockhedge : aaaaa: change to 1m charts
[2016-12-16 06:50:44] aaaaa : now it is accurate
[2016-12-16 06:51:04] aaaaa : thank you
[2016-12-16 06:51:35] aaaaa : it looks like it will take on more period to refresh at 1hour chart
[2016-12-16 06:59:18] mjones : 1 hour. perhaps we see a fake out pump then biggish dump
[2016-12-16 07:00:08] mjones : it's crazy thinking this day would never come then it does
[2016-12-16 07:00:14] mjones : we're all getting older
[2016-12-16 07:00:24] l3f : am I the only one that thinks nothing will happen?
[2016-12-16 07:00:38] mjones : wtf? something is going to happen
[2016-12-16 07:00:46] mjones : new quarterly opens and people get in position
[2016-12-16 07:01:09] l3f : and why would that move the current price?
[2016-12-16 07:01:46] mjones : because the new quarterly closes in 3.5 months. so people think price will be higher and you can long in hopes others long after you and you make money
[2016-12-16 07:01:59] mjones : greater fool theory
[2016-12-16 07:02:33] mjones : and the whole price is a few dollars from a 3 year high which may make people FOMO in
[2016-12-16 07:02:47] laisee : 1st fule is the winner
[2016-12-16 07:03:37] mjones : the price is already moving up. was 5450 cny and now 5495 cny
[2016-12-16 07:04:00] mjones : just sit tight for 56 minutes
[2016-12-16 07:04:02] laisee : saving my pennies for the big ZEC pump led by rapidtardes
[2016-12-16 07:04:08] imabeast : whos bot is on zec
[2016-12-16 07:04:09] imabeast : lmao
[2016-12-16 07:04:16] mjones : yeah man. 5x long that zec soon
[2016-12-16 07:04:25] Newmex : where will the new quarterly appear in 1 hour?
[2016-12-16 07:04:42] mjones : i cant give all my secrets away Newmex
[2016-12-16 07:04:46] laisee : ZEC -> moon
[2016-12-16 07:04:51] mjones : i wanna be first in line for the low ball bids
[2016-12-16 07:04:54] Newmex : :(
[2016-12-16 07:05:08] Newmex : any bitmex mods can help me since mjones won't? lol
[2016-12-16 07:05:24] mjones : i'll be a bro. https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBTH17
[2016-12-16 07:05:27] BitMEX_Wally : Newmex: They will appear here
[2016-12-16 07:05:28] mjones : good luck
[2016-12-16 07:05:38] mjones : appear here. like magic!
[2016-12-16 07:05:50] mjones : we'll all see it appear at the same time
[2016-12-16 07:06:07] mjones : up to the market makers to set the price
[2016-12-16 07:06:14] BitMEX_Wally : Yep, next to the "Dec 30 (100x)" tab will appear a "Mar 31 (100x)" tab
[2016-12-16 07:06:43] Newmex : ok. will we need to refresh or will you guys do an update
[2016-12-16 07:06:47] Newmex : so it appears on its own
[2016-12-16 07:07:10] aethlios : bitmex will appear first, okcoin takes 3 minutes to show up
[2016-12-16 07:07:49] Newmex : ok ty
[2016-12-16 07:29:49] MartyIX : I'm looking at the turnover value here https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBCZ16 and I'm confused as the number does not purely increase as I would expect. Is it simply a sum of traded contracts?
[2016-12-16 07:35:35] CaptainDean : it's 24 hours stats
[2016-12-16 07:39:47] BitMEX_Wally : MartyIX: Yes, that is the last 24 hours, if you want cumulative turnover since launch use the API to look at `turnover` and `volume` instead of `turnover24h` and `volume24h`
[2016-12-16 07:40:10] BitMEX_Wally : Actually, you can use the frontend to see these fields if you expand the `Instruments` table with the `>>` button on the left
[2016-12-16 07:41:30] BitMEX_Wally : So `turnover` is since the session opened (every 8 hours) and `totalTurnover` is since the product launched
[2016-12-16 07:42:06] BitMEX_Wally : Total turnover for `XBCZ16` is currently 8,239 XBT
[2016-12-16 07:42:27] BitMEX_Wally : Turnover this session is 184 XBT, and turnover in last 24 hours is 1,060 XBDT
[2016-12-16 07:43:24] MartyIX : Yes, I just think I saw yesterday that turnover24h decreased slightly which is strange
[2016-12-16 07:43:37] MartyIX : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBCZ16 - I can see: 24H Turnover 1,037.3983 XBT
[2016-12-16 07:44:24] MartyIX : (I'm not currently logged in)
[2016-12-16 07:44:33] BitMEX_Wally : Cool
[2016-12-16 07:44:42] BitMEX_Wally : It is a rolling 24 hour period
[2016-12-16 07:44:48] MartyIX : I see
[2016-12-16 07:45:00] MartyIX : it makes sense with the rolling
[2016-12-16 07:45:02] MartyIX : thanks
[2016-12-16 07:52:47] mjones : lol 0kcoin quarterly
[2016-12-16 07:53:04] mjones : someone just market buys it up $4
[2016-12-16 07:53:06] aethlios : people getting crazy for futures across the board. new era.
[2016-12-16 07:53:18] mjones : 7 minutes till the new one
[2016-12-16 07:53:35] mjones : people fomoing in the wrong one
[2016-12-16 07:54:19] mjones : china almost at a new recent high
[2016-12-16 07:54:22] mjones : shit crazy
[2016-12-16 07:55:13] aethlios : i will place some asks 999 usd
[2016-12-16 07:55:17] Newmex : 4 minutes!
[2016-12-16 07:55:32] mjones : china 10 cny away from new high
[2016-12-16 07:55:40] mjones : 43 cny from 3 year high
[2016-12-16 07:55:43] mjones : let the fireworks happen
[2016-12-16 07:55:54] aethlios : craziness, madness, we need to fund a btccrazypital
[2016-12-16 07:56:44] mjones : lol @ that 0kcoin quarterly dump
[2016-12-16 07:56:46] mjones : whiplash
[2016-12-16 07:59:11] aethlios : 50 s
[2016-12-16 07:59:19] mjones : here we go
[2016-12-16 07:59:22] mjones : get your fomo ready
[2016-12-16 07:59:24] aethlios : madness of the crowd
[2016-12-16 07:59:34] mjones : this is what we practiced for
[2016-12-16 07:59:44] mjones : longing the top like a pro
[2016-12-16 08:00:24] mjones : 805
[2016-12-16 08:00:26] mjones : 999
[2016-12-16 08:00:29] mjones : lol
[2016-12-16 08:00:34] mjones : fail
[2016-12-16 08:00:39] mjones : no one on the other side
[2016-12-16 08:00:39] mjones : wtf
[2016-12-16 08:01:05] mjones : 811
[2016-12-16 08:01:19] mjones : well this isnt what i expected
[2016-12-16 08:01:34] l3f : wtf did you expect nothing is going to happen
[2016-12-16 08:01:35] mjones : not a single low ball
[2016-12-16 08:01:37] l3f : and nothing has happened
[2016-12-16 08:01:42] mjones : no idiots on bitmex
[2016-12-16 08:02:06] mjones : i thought someone would be like 20k contracts at $820
[2016-12-16 08:02:10] mjones : and i would have fomo longed into it
[2016-12-16 08:02:18] mjones : but no one dump enough
[2016-12-16 08:02:56] Newmex : wtf?
[2016-12-16 08:03:09] mjones : 855
[2016-12-16 08:03:11] mjones : not bad
[2016-12-16 08:03:43] mjones : but damn. not longing that knowing i can get easily rekt
[2016-12-16 08:03:54] Newmex : im not paying 855 either...
[2016-12-16 08:03:57] Newmex : :(
[2016-12-16 08:04:02] mjones : maybe decent short
[2016-12-16 08:04:09] mjones : but this shit can go to $700
[2016-12-16 08:04:12] mjones : cause crazy mofos
[2016-12-16 08:04:13] jose : look at the range...
[2016-12-16 08:04:32] mjones : i am waiting for 0kcoin
[2016-12-16 08:04:51] rapidtrades : oh march is live
[2016-12-16 08:04:52] mjones : should be opening in a minute
[2016-12-16 08:06:01] mjones : some bot is buying at 850
[2016-12-16 08:06:09] mjones : okcoin spot dumping
[2016-12-16 08:07:14] rapidtrades : is okc march live too?
[2016-12-16 08:07:25] mjones : we'll see where 0kcoin is at in a few minutes
[2016-12-16 08:07:25] mjones : no yet
[2016-12-16 08:07:41] mjones : should be live in a minute
[2016-12-16 08:08:06] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-12-16 08:08:36] mjones : if 852 is the best we can long in the new quarterly then damn
[2016-12-16 08:09:20] mjones : taking a bit longer for okcoin to go live it seems
[2016-12-16 08:10:06] mjones : could be a nice short if this dumps though.
[2016-12-16 08:10:17] mjones : 26,000 contracts already
[2016-12-16 08:10:44] mjones : 0kcoin new quartelry has opened
[2016-12-16 08:10:52] rapidtrades : HWAT PRICE
[2016-12-16 08:11:01] mjones : $806
[2016-12-16 08:11:03] jose : wtf
[2016-12-16 08:11:04] mjones : lol
[2016-12-16 08:11:08] mjones : and we are dumping
[2016-12-16 08:11:18] orly : let's not dump
[2016-12-16 08:11:23] orly : we know better than those guys.
[2016-12-16 08:11:24] mjones : 5600 = $806
[2016-12-16 08:11:37] mjones : lets come down to the magic price
[2016-12-16 08:12:24] rms : link to the okc0in chart?
[2016-12-16 08:12:39] mjones : $15 premium is weak
[2016-12-16 08:12:45] CaptainDean : https://cryptowat.ch/okcoin/btcusd-quarterly-futures/1m
[2016-12-16 08:12:49] mjones : https://www.okcoin.com/future/market.do
[2016-12-16 08:12:52] jose : too bad i dont have money on okcoin, would have long all day
[2016-12-16 08:12:54] rms : thank you
[2016-12-16 08:13:23] lockhedge : lol
[2016-12-16 08:13:41] mjones : quarterly is 100 CNY higher than okcoin spot
[2016-12-16 08:13:56] mjones : so pretty good but thought it'd be higher
[2016-12-16 08:14:17] mjones : but sucks for those guys longing at $850 here
[2016-12-16 08:14:22] Newmex : nobody selling anything on quarterlies? ffs
[2016-12-16 08:14:32] mjones : i know. pretty sideways
[2016-12-16 08:14:37] mjones : everything is sideways
[2016-12-16 08:14:42] rms : market price for quarterlies isn't adjusting here?
[2016-12-16 08:14:51] mjones : seems like selling might be the next thing that happens
[2016-12-16 08:15:06] mjones : people buying at $811 here now
[2016-12-16 08:15:18] CaptainDean : 830
[2016-12-16 08:15:21] rapidtrades : i was like 3 mins late...as always
[2016-12-16 08:15:22] mjones : okcoin going up
[2016-12-16 08:15:31] mjones : here we go
[2016-12-16 08:15:54] mjones : this is pretty crazy
[2016-12-16 08:16:18] mjones : 0kcoin just hit $828 on quarterly
[2016-12-16 08:16:39] mjones : seems no one is selling so you gotta FOMO to get in
[2016-12-16 08:16:44] mjones : or else wait and hope for a dump
[2016-12-16 08:17:34] Newmex : fingers crossed lol
[2016-12-16 08:17:58] aethlios : okcoin very cheap
[2016-12-16 08:18:20] jose : 830 is still really cheap
[2016-12-16 08:18:43] rms : so the market price for XBTH17 here just isn't updating, right?
[2016-12-16 08:18:47] rms : it's stuck at open price, 857.10
[2016-12-16 08:18:50] rms : or is it working for others?
[2016-12-16 08:18:57] rapidtrades : works
[2016-12-16 08:20:13] flux : 400k wall
[2016-12-16 08:20:28] l3f : a not very big wall
[2016-12-16 08:21:06] mjones : hot damn. i'm up 200% on my short
[2016-12-16 08:21:16] mjones : wish i shorted more on those $850 idiots
[2016-12-16 08:21:32] QuantFocus : there wasn't any real volume to short on
[2016-12-16 08:21:34] rms : yeah i tried but there wasn't any volume at 850
[2016-12-16 08:21:39] elmorte : yeah, I did well on that too...
[2016-12-16 08:21:42] elmorte : Glad it actually sold
[2016-12-16 08:21:51] mjones : you could have shorted a few thousand
[2016-12-16 08:21:54] orly : i'm long 1 USD @ 850 and i will make a profit on this, you'll see
[2016-12-16 08:21:57] mjones : someone kept throwing up new walls
[2016-12-16 08:21:59] elmorte : 10k :)
[2016-12-16 08:22:19] Newmex : where is MM. fill the books :(
[2016-12-16 08:22:37] mjones : i know. 20k mm show up on new quarterly
[2016-12-16 08:22:49] QuantFocus : too risky
[2016-12-16 08:22:52] mjones : okcoin is testing 5500 right now
[2016-12-16 08:23:04] CaptainDean : bed time night guys
[2016-12-16 08:23:16] mjones : lol night night?
[2016-12-16 08:23:25] mjones : damn most exciting time happening now
[2016-12-16 08:23:34] mjones : will btc dump or pump
[2016-12-16 08:23:37] CaptainDean : it's 3:23 am
[2016-12-16 08:23:42] mjones : do more cocaine
[2016-12-16 08:23:45] CaptainDean : i'm working in 6 hours
[2016-12-16 08:23:50] jose : pump plz
[2016-12-16 08:23:54] mjones : sick day
[2016-12-16 08:23:56] CaptainDean : i will go for a smoke
[2016-12-16 08:24:06] CaptainDean : in fact i'm only working until 12:30 om
[2016-12-16 08:24:08] mjones : tell them obama birth certificate was fake
[2016-12-16 08:24:14] mjones : you need a day to recover from the news
[2016-12-16 08:24:24] CaptainDean : pm, it's the chrismass party in the afternoon
[2016-12-16 08:24:31] CaptainDean : you got a good point
[2016-12-16 08:24:48] CaptainDean : and i'm skipping it
[2016-12-16 08:24:55] mjones : i gotta go take a piss. dont pump this shit in the next 89 seconds
[2016-12-16 08:25:16] CaptainDean : cose your short take profit :P
[2016-12-16 08:25:21] rms : actually some guy on reddit said that it's an illusion that big movements happen around okcoin futures opening
[2016-12-16 08:25:28] rms : people just find patterns
[2016-12-16 08:25:31] rms : so nothing is going to happen
[2016-12-16 08:25:33] rms : go to sleep
[2016-12-16 08:25:34] rms : :P
[2016-12-16 08:26:02] QuantFocus : your mm god has arrived
[2016-12-16 08:26:25] Newmex : hoorah
[2016-12-16 08:26:25] mjones : 10k
[2016-12-16 08:26:26] mjones : i approve
[2016-12-16 08:26:28] Newmex : good enough
[2016-12-16 08:26:29] Newmex : lol
[2016-12-16 08:26:41] mjones : okcoin going up a bit
[2016-12-16 08:26:48] mjones : 45 cny away from 3 year high
[2016-12-16 08:27:35] l3f : QuantFocus: you're running a MM bot?
[2016-12-16 08:27:52] QuantFocus : maybe, maybe not
[2016-12-16 08:27:53] mjones : meh. this is getting boring now
[2016-12-16 08:27:59] QuantFocus : but i'm not the 10k guy
[2016-12-16 08:28:25] mjones : 10k guy = hero
[2016-12-16 08:28:30] l3f : for someone whose name as quant in it I won't expect anything else
[2016-12-16 08:28:47] QuantFocus : it's all an illusion
[2016-12-16 08:28:53] QuantFocus : to make you think i'm smart. that's why i don't talk much
[2016-12-16 08:29:09] mjones : in 3.5 months i'll be more prepared
[2016-12-16 08:29:21] mjones : thanks bitmex for doing this though
[2016-12-16 08:29:31] mjones : A+ delivery
[2016-12-16 08:29:37] mjones : i know someone is reading this
[2016-12-16 08:30:19] mjones : surprised no one get margin called yet on the new one
[2016-12-16 08:30:43] rapidtrades : i swapped my swap for dec and now im at the front in ADL
[2016-12-16 08:31:07] mjones : expecting great things from this new quarterly. record amount of contracts. high premium
[2016-12-16 08:31:15] mjones : assuming BTC pumps like crazy
[2016-12-16 08:31:24] rapidtrades : kinda dumb move in retrospect
[2016-12-16 08:31:56] elmorte : I doubled my long instead of closing it ...
[2016-12-16 08:32:20] mjones : well hopefully china doesnt dump like crazy
[2016-12-16 08:32:30] mjones : the premium should stay up
[2016-12-16 08:32:31] QuantFocus : i'm going to put a movie on. bbl
[2016-12-16 08:32:47] rapidtrades : i had a limit at 850, dunno why i waited shouldn't just dumped into those stupid bids
[2016-12-16 08:32:54] mjones : $822 on 0kcoin quarterly
[2016-12-16 08:32:58] mjones : $821 here
[2016-12-16 08:33:02] mjones : just as i expected
[2016-12-16 08:33:33] arbitrage001 : china will dump like crazy eventually
[2016-12-16 08:33:35] mjones : bitmex will follow 0kcoin till it hits it's upper limit
[2016-12-16 08:33:35] aethlios : bitmex tradingview didn't add XBTH17 yet
[2016-12-16 08:33:55] arbitrage001 : boom bust cycle repeating itself
[2016-12-16 08:34:26] mjones : yeah bitmex charts dont update well
[2016-12-16 08:34:33] mjones : hope they figure that out
[2016-12-16 08:34:52] mjones : cryptowatch always lagging wayyy behind
[2016-12-16 08:35:29] mjones : i know /u/excited_by_typos is willing to work with people
[2016-12-16 08:36:36] lockhedge : $39 premium on okc quarterlies is even lower than i expected
[2016-12-16 08:37:25] mjones : man
[2016-12-16 08:37:36] mjones : $40 is what i expected
[2016-12-16 08:37:51] mjones : but dunno if okcoin spot is gonna pump to new highs
[2016-12-16 08:38:03] mjones : bitfinex is still $9 from new 2016 high
[2016-12-16 08:38:06] aethlios : does okcoin has a premium cap?? I asked support, wait for reply
[2016-12-16 08:38:10] mjones : seems short is best bet
[2016-12-16 08:38:21] mjones : you can find out yourself
[2016-12-16 08:38:29] mjones : set price 9999 and buy 1 contract
[2016-12-16 08:38:30] arbitrage001 : shouldn't trader long when premium is low?
[2016-12-16 08:38:32] mjones : it'll tell you
[2016-12-16 08:39:10] mjones : if you think btc = new highs soon then long. if you think btc = dump then short
[2016-12-16 08:39:23] Newmex : if bitcoin keeps going up into january/feb, the premium will grow.
[2016-12-16 08:39:26] arbitrage001 : that also depend on the price on going long
[2016-12-16 08:39:35] mjones : well yeah Newmex
[2016-12-16 08:39:36] arbitrage001 : cost of going long
[2016-12-16 08:39:46] mjones : if btc breaks 3 year highs then everyone will fomo long
[2016-12-16 08:40:05] mjones : everyone is basically watching bitfinex by now
[2016-12-16 08:40:11] mjones : the last exchange to break the 2016 high
[2016-12-16 08:40:21] rapidtrades : noone is watching bitfinex bro
[2016-12-16 08:40:27] mjones : lol right
[2016-12-16 08:40:32] arbitrage001 : i am watching
[2016-12-16 08:40:33] mjones : we're all watching okcoin
[2016-12-16 08:40:44] mjones : but bitfinex is still the 2nd biggest exchange
[2016-12-16 08:40:45] arbitrage001 : still based most of my trading decision on bitfinex price
[2016-12-16 08:40:57] arbitrage001 : mjones: who is the first?
[2016-12-16 08:41:06] mjones : okcoin then bitfinex
[2016-12-16 08:41:09] mjones : 0kcoin
[2016-12-16 08:41:23] arbitrage001 : US version of 0kcoin?
[2016-12-16 08:41:27] mjones : okcoin.cn
[2016-12-16 08:41:31] mjones : 0kcoin.cn
[2016-12-16 08:41:57] mjones : i think the btc hasnt started because bitfinex is still below the 2016 high
[2016-12-16 08:42:01] mjones : the btc pump
[2016-12-16 08:42:07] arbitrage001 : price there not meaningful for people living outside china
[2016-12-16 08:42:11] mjones : the last exchange
[2016-12-16 08:42:27] mjones : something is holding back 0kcoin / china
[2016-12-16 08:42:33] rapidtrades : bitfinex is NOT the 2nd biggest exchange
[2016-12-16 08:42:35] mjones : why does it hit 5555 cny or 5500 cny then dump
[2016-12-16 08:42:42] mjones : cause bitfinex isnt hitting new highs
[2016-12-16 08:42:44] rapidtrades : its a scam volue faking shit
[2016-12-16 08:42:49] mjones : lol
[2016-12-16 08:42:56] mjones : just like 0kcoin and huobi
[2016-12-16 08:42:57] jose : rapidtrades: bitfinex is the second best exchange after mt gox
[2016-12-16 08:43:04] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: you have anything to back your accusation?
[2016-12-16 08:43:16] mjones : other than 0kcoin there really is no other exchange that could lead
[2016-12-16 08:43:40] mjones : i give bitfinex 2nd best cause of how many btc are longed on that exchange
[2016-12-16 08:44:26] mjones : bitfinex has some low ass volume right now. so it's not doing a good job at faking shit
[2016-12-16 08:44:48] mjones : i am just waiting to see if 0kcoin pumps past 5555 cny
[2016-12-16 08:44:57] mjones : it's just fighting 5500 cny right now
[2016-12-16 08:45:21] mjones : although looks to be winning
[2016-12-16 08:45:25] rapidtrades : jones ur delusional
[2016-12-16 08:45:37] rapidtrades : keep spamming ur delirious bs
[2016-12-16 08:45:42] mjones : i will
[2016-12-16 08:45:45] mjones : i ran out of beers
[2016-12-16 08:45:50] mjones : so i will pass out soon
[2016-12-16 08:46:04] mjones : but 0kcoin going for new highs
[2016-12-16 08:46:10] mjones : so get ready for massive pumps
[2016-12-16 08:46:29] jose : mjones: still waiting for the pump btw
[2016-12-16 08:46:49] mjones : 0kcoin just hit 5525 cny. 30 cny away from 3 year high
[2016-12-16 08:46:52] mjones : give it a few
[2016-12-16 08:50:56] ett1 : do i save maintanance fees by adding the maxingum amount of margin, or removing the margin
[2016-12-16 08:51:15] l3f : ett1: you save them by reducing your position
[2016-12-16 08:51:35] ett1 : no but assuming its the same size
[2016-12-16 08:51:42] ett1 : i have the option to add margin to the position
[2016-12-16 08:51:47] ett1 : or to take it away
[2016-12-16 08:51:51] l3f : you don't save fees
[2016-12-16 08:51:55] l3f : that just changes your liquidation price
[2016-12-16 08:51:56] ett1 : just the same
[2016-12-16 08:52:01] ett1 : ah ok
[2016-12-16 08:52:22] ett1 : what about if i have the same size but higher/lower leverage
[2016-12-16 08:52:23] mjones : 0kcoin spot going up but quarterly hasnt
[2016-12-16 08:52:32] ett1 : thats the saem too? just changes liq price
[2016-12-16 08:52:46] mjones : but 20k guy showed up
[2016-12-16 08:53:08] mjones : meh. still pretty crazy. i guess we just need to give it a day to sort itself out
[2016-12-16 08:53:38] wurstgelee : man up and long some
[2016-12-16 08:53:41] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-12-16 08:53:55] ett1 : this is obviouslly a bull market
[2016-12-16 08:54:01] ett1 : can understnd anyone selling or going short here
[2016-12-16 08:54:18] mjones : yeah. but till these exchanges make new 2016 highs it's just a trap
[2016-12-16 08:54:38] ett1 : everyone whos long is in a winning position, everyone short is losing. thats a recipe for more momentum
[2016-12-16 08:55:02] ett1 : 780 has to break. its going to 10,000 so has to break 500, 1000 etc at some point. just inneviatble & the time has come
[2016-12-16 08:55:09] mjones : long term yes. but short term like 6-48 hours
[2016-12-16 08:55:11] mjones : who knows
[2016-12-16 08:55:16] mjones : short could be the best place
[2016-12-16 08:55:19] ett1 : trade longer term
[2016-12-16 08:55:21] ett1 : exactly
[2016-12-16 08:56:18] mjones : have fun guessing the bottom then
[2016-12-16 08:56:50] ett1 : well last time it broke 2 year highs we saw 10x bll runs and it didnt get back below the breakout points
[2016-12-16 08:56:55] ett1 : 30 to 250
[2016-12-16 08:57:02] ett1 : 250 to 1200
[2016-12-16 08:57:09] ett1 : maybe like 10% drawdown
[2016-12-16 08:57:12] mjones : yeah
[2016-12-16 08:57:22] mjones : this could be the start to the next mega bullrun
[2016-12-16 08:57:27] ett1 : the bottom will be like once it peaks at 3000 and dips to 1000
[2016-12-16 08:57:30] mjones : so longing everything at $820 is a steal
[2016-12-16 08:57:43] ett1 : yes
[2016-12-16 08:57:46] mjones : but if it dips below $800 then it's an even better long
[2016-12-16 08:57:55] ett1 : its proving its going up
[2016-12-16 08:58:02] ett1 : buy the highs not the lows
[2016-12-16 08:58:04] mjones : but could it dump $20 first
[2016-12-16 08:58:21] ett1 : breakouts are obvious, nobody can predict the turning points
[2016-12-16 08:58:24] orly : mjones: what does it matter if you're aiming for $1k+ ?
[2016-12-16 08:58:44] mjones : if you are longing 50x you get rekt if it dumps $12
[2016-12-16 08:58:54] ett1 : i said 3k, 1k btu who knows
[2016-12-16 08:59:22] ett1 : instead of trading 1hr candles at 20x or whatever
[2016-12-16 08:59:29] ett1 : jus trade dailies (weeklies even)
[2016-12-16 08:59:35] ett1 : with 1x or 2x
[2016-12-16 08:59:37] mjones : but bitmex is following 0kcoin quarterly like i thought it wuld
[2016-12-16 08:59:50] mjones : so just watch 0kcoin quarterly and do what it does
[2016-12-16 08:59:51] ett1 : just patience
[2016-12-16 09:00:05] mjones : if 0kcoin.cn dumps then get ready for a quarterly dump on here
[2016-12-16 09:00:30] mjones : but 221,000 open contracts already is pretty good
[2016-12-16 09:00:41] ett1 : why would it dump? its gone up too much?
[2016-12-16 09:00:59] mjones : i dunno why it would dump but it did just a few hours ago
[2016-12-16 09:01:18] ett1 : were at 2hr highs, i dont see much or a dump
[2016-12-16 09:01:37] mjones : all right. 100x long from $820
[2016-12-16 09:01:40] mjones : we're going to the moon
[2016-12-16 09:02:16] mjones : if this dumps i
[2016-12-16 09:02:21] mjones : i am blaming ett1
[2016-12-16 09:02:22] ett1 : "just a few hours ago" lol
[2016-12-16 09:02:37] ett1 : reduce the leverage and up the timeframe
[2016-12-16 09:02:57] mjones : oh now we're dumping first
[2016-12-16 09:03:04] mjones : 100x short
[2016-12-16 09:03:26] ett1 : if u wanna bet on whether it will be above or beloe 780 in a few hours, look at binary options
[2016-12-16 09:04:08] mjones : i'm just fucking with you all
[2016-12-16 09:04:12] ett1 : my liq is at 580
[2016-12-16 09:04:13] mjones : i shorted a ton at $850
[2016-12-16 09:04:22] mjones : i'll close when this dumps
[2016-12-16 09:04:37] mjones : then long the dip
[2016-12-16 09:05:01] mjones : unless this breaks 5555 CNY then i'll fomo like a chicken without its head
[2016-12-16 09:08:47] aethlios : mjones: take your profits and pray.
[2016-12-16 09:09:10] mjones : i kinda wanna close my short and long but cant do it just yet
[2016-12-16 09:09:21] mjones : 0kcoin isnt close enough to 5555 cny
[2016-12-16 09:11:12] aethlios : okcoin spread very low, 5% for 3 1/2 months, and yuan premium only 1.8% which is very low, has reached 12% to 15% in pumps.
[2016-12-16 09:15:26] mjones : yeah this is weird
[2016-12-16 09:15:56] arbitrage001 : price will go down?
[2016-12-16 09:16:03] arbitrage001 : low premium means bearish
[2016-12-16 09:16:12] mjones : but i guess $40 premium or so is the same as 3 months ago
[2016-12-16 09:16:12] Newmex : lol.
[2016-12-16 09:16:23] mjones : so bet on the next move at $820
[2016-12-16 09:18:59] mjones : cant believe the bots stopped on 5500 and didnt continue buying
[2016-12-16 09:19:12] mjones : guess i'll go do other shit
[2016-12-16 09:27:38] mjones : btc dumping. get rekt
[2016-12-16 09:45:52] mjones : oh and @ bitmex guys. risk limit is too low. raise it like how xbtz16 is
[2016-12-16 10:01:07] RocketScience : is 820 for march futures a good offer?
[2016-12-16 10:02:44] Gomezpl : i think very good now in my opinion is time for quick short and then up to the moon
[2016-12-16 10:04:43] BitMEX_Wally : mjones: I've increased the XBTH17 and XBCH17 risk limits to match
[2016-12-16 10:16:44] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: Hello, tradingview didn't add xbth17 yet. do they have to be notified?
[2016-12-16 10:34:10] Monty : TradingView suck donkey cock
[2016-12-16 10:41:01] rapidtrades : shut up monty
[2016-12-16 10:55:31] Monty : rapidtrades: I'm a lion raaaaaaah
[2016-12-16 10:58:21] RocketScience : roaar
[2016-12-16 11:06:48] aethlios : 780 so tough resistance, too much consolidation pressure below.
[2016-12-16 11:10:44] rapidtrades : we're gonna CRASH!!!!!!!!111
[2016-12-16 11:12:47] aethlios : i think we will blow up suddenly with massive margin calls, bear blood everywhere.
[2016-12-16 11:17:38] RocketScience : moon crash landing :D
[2016-12-16 11:20:59] laisee : uranus will be the impact point, according to nostradamus
[2016-12-16 11:21:59] aethlios : let's penetrate this 780-800 roof and make btc great again with an above 1000 prices.
[2016-12-16 11:26:30] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/WSI0kOnf/
[2016-12-16 11:26:47] aethlios : very tight daily candles last days
[2016-12-16 11:43:17] bingbongfly : 17 min left for etc7 expire, whats gonna happen?
[2016-12-16 11:44:03] elmorte : better spend it
[2016-12-16 11:48:14] j8 : sleger: around? can make a deal on XBJZ16 if you still want
[2016-12-16 12:00:05] aethlios : push it stamp push it
[2016-12-16 12:01:20] Derreck : aethlios: +++
[2016-12-16 12:05:42] RocketScience : bring the whales
[2016-12-16 12:08:43] Trebile : Hi guys. How can I cancel an unfilled limit order?