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[2016-12-15 14:42:28] sleger : quaterly. the most volume
[2016-12-15 14:42:46] sleger : trade at the offer
[2016-12-15 14:42:52] rapidtrades : ur connection doesn't matter cos the trades are still printed in recent trades
[2016-12-15 14:43:02] mjones : not looking good for zec holders
[2016-12-15 14:43:52] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: @sleger I've seen it before too. I traded there a while back, would be best bid / offer. Saw volume increasing but I didn't get any fills
[2016-12-15 14:44:26] rapidtrades : yes i dunno how he can't see it, it's very obvious
[2016-12-15 14:44:29] sleger : it happened only for a bit at the beginning 2 years ago
[2016-12-15 14:44:45] rapidtrades : i happened as recently as 8 months ago when i still traded there
[2016-12-15 14:44:53] BitMEX_Greg : I haven't looked recently tbh
[2016-12-15 14:45:12] Cryptlex : you guys sure it isnt some high frequency tactics?
[2016-12-15 14:45:30] BitMEX_Greg : I gave up when I had stops executed, or hunted rather, at rediculous prices
[2016-12-15 14:45:43] sleger : record market data then look at it
[2016-12-15 14:45:46] sleger : then we can talk
[2016-12-15 14:46:54] rapidtrades : ok so what would be ur explanation for my example above?
[2016-12-15 14:47:15] rapidtrades : to me it doesn't make sense because you pay fees for every day
[2016-12-15 14:47:25] rapidtrades : *trade
[2016-12-15 14:47:52] sleger : i dont see it printing in the middle
[2016-12-15 14:47:55] l3f : seleger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8B_5-ZaC5s&feature=youtu.be&t=20m9s
[2016-12-15 14:48:00] l3f : sleger*:
[2016-12-15 14:48:48] sleger : l3f: is that about 0kcoin china ?
[2016-12-15 14:49:23] l3f : looks like usd prices
[2016-12-15 14:49:23] l3f : so no
[2016-12-15 14:49:49] sleger : Dec 30, 2014
[2016-12-15 14:49:54] sleger : thats what i said earlier
[2016-12-15 14:50:01] sleger : "sleger: it happened only for a bit at the beginning 2 years ago"
[2016-12-15 14:50:18] sleger : whats 2 year in the past from today ?
[2016-12-15 14:51:01] sleger : I already explained why they did that, there was a volume contest at the time. The first prize was a mercedes C class new
[2016-12-15 14:51:15] sleger : I was going to win it so they made a fake volume bot
[2016-12-15 14:51:26] sleger : I was told after the fact by employees who left shortly after
[2016-12-15 14:51:30] l3f : what the fuck?
[2016-12-15 14:51:53] l3f : how much trading fees did they scam you
[2016-12-15 14:52:09] sleger : they did not scam me of anything
[2016-12-15 14:52:19] sleger : they just didnt want to have to pay me that car
[2016-12-15 14:52:38] l3f : you didn't pay any trading fees to get your "volume" up?
[2016-12-15 14:52:49] sleger : i didnt get my volume up on purpose
[2016-12-15 14:52:58] sleger : i was trading what i wanted to trade and was profitable
[2016-12-15 14:53:12] sleger : i didnt pay extra to try to win if thats what you think
[2016-12-15 14:53:29] l3f : lol
[2016-12-15 14:53:40] l3f : so why won the car?
[2016-12-15 14:54:13] l3f : who*
[2016-12-15 14:54:13] sleger : please speak english
[2016-12-15 14:54:19] sleger : their bot won the car
[2016-12-15 14:54:21] sleger : i guess
[2016-12-15 14:56:40] rapidtrades : that shows their character
[2016-12-15 14:56:54] rapidtrades : there is no honor in china
[2016-12-15 14:57:33] sleger : http://soft.chinabyte.com/248/13135748.shtml
[2016-12-15 14:57:39] sleger : from nov 2014
[2016-12-15 14:58:13] l3f : did you at least get the macbook?
[2016-12-15 14:58:22] sleger : i got 2 macbooks and 2 iphone
[2016-12-15 14:58:29] sleger : because i won the ltc contest
[2016-12-15 14:58:31] sleger : as well
[2016-12-15 14:58:41] rapidtrades : nice
[2016-12-15 14:58:57] sleger : but they just sent me bitcoin for the value of it (a bit less of course...)
[2016-12-15 14:59:08] rapidtrades : lol ofc
[2016-12-15 14:59:13] rapidtrades : how much less?
[2016-12-15 14:59:40] sleger : they used some weird average price of bitcoin over some imaginary period to convert the value....
[2016-12-15 14:59:46] sleger : so they gave me like 75% of it
[2016-12-15 14:59:54] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-12-15 15:00:11] rapidtrades : and u still kept trading there? i would be so pissed
[2016-12-15 15:00:26] rapidtrades : that's adding insult to injury
[2016-12-15 15:00:42] sleger : i made much more by trading than the prize
[2016-12-15 15:00:44] rapidtrades : first they cheated u out of the car then gave u 75% of the latptops
[2016-12-15 15:00:50] sleger : so yes i did continue and still do
[2016-12-15 15:00:58] sleger : they never stole any of my money
[2016-12-15 15:01:05] sleger : unlike finex or bitmex
[2016-12-15 15:01:09] rapidtrades : unlike bitfienx
[2016-12-15 15:01:23] l3f : bitmex stole your money?
[2016-12-15 15:01:46] rapidtrades : they changed the terms on short notice
[2016-12-15 15:01:55] sleger : long story.... they made a change to how the swap worked without notice that destroyed a 10$ premium that i had bought
[2016-12-15 15:02:11] sleger : 10$ * 1000 btc
[2016-12-15 15:02:52] rapidtrades : my story is they capped the ZEC....after removing limits 1 day earlier
[2016-12-15 15:03:21] rapidtrades : official explanation 'we didn't think it will get that high'
[2016-12-15 15:04:12] suriah : with such low supply we all knew it would go 100+ btc easy, they are not fools
[2016-12-15 15:04:37] sleger : almost noone thought that high no
[2016-12-15 15:04:47] sleger : and you werent here to say that before it launched either
[2016-12-15 15:04:57] l3f : yeah I left some sells at 2 and 3 btc
[2016-12-15 15:04:58] l3f : and went to bed
[2016-12-15 15:05:09] l3f : missed the fireworks but it must have been insane
[2016-12-15 15:05:17] zanza : sleger if I recall, the price was in the 4 or 500's then, if you would have just held you would have made tons of returns
[2016-12-15 15:05:20] suriah : I did say it will go easy past 100 btc
[2016-12-15 15:05:24] zanza : since the price kept rallying
[2016-12-15 15:05:30] zanza : actually it was like 640
[2016-12-15 15:06:05] suriah : simple math to see that and if you dont understand it cant be helped
[2016-12-15 15:06:08] rapidtrades : problem is ZEC rallied from 0.025 to 1.25 on launch day....and there's no reason to expect 10 not to be hit with that record
[2016-12-15 15:06:15] sleger : zanza: i would have made money because i chose to be long, that extra 10$ was still stolen away, so that's completely irrelevant
[2016-12-15 15:06:42] sleger : suriah: you did say that when the price was 0.01 ?
[2016-12-15 15:06:56] sleger : because when it went above 1 that was easy and many people did say that
[2016-12-15 15:07:09] zanza : but you have to know the swap goal is the mirror SPOT price, so if it was trading way out of line they would make a change
[2016-12-15 15:07:33] zanza : the funding rate is what keeps the swaps in line with spot
[2016-12-15 15:07:45] suriah : sleger: I was ADL many times on here but came to that conclusion about 0.07 after discover slow start of 11 coins
[2016-12-15 15:07:48] sleger : zanza: contract did not say that contract would change to keep it in line no
[2016-12-15 15:08:23] sleger : zanza: i only wish they do the same to you so you will shut up
[2016-12-15 15:08:51] sleger : if it went in front of a judge I give them 15% chance of winning
[2016-12-15 15:09:01] suriah : oh and then they change contract and destroy all bitmex credibility but I still trade here
[2016-12-15 15:09:03] zanza : good luck in Seychelles
[2016-12-15 15:09:10] l3f : zanza: aye
[2016-12-15 15:10:18] suriah : sleger: but I ask you, why you still trade here knowing what you now know?
[2016-12-15 15:10:32] l3f : suriah: he's profiting of course
[2016-12-15 15:10:45] suriah : exactly
[2016-12-15 15:11:38] sleger : suriah: i trade 10% of what I would otherwise trade so bitmex knows how much they lose in fees (they refused to reimburse me for the loss)
[2016-12-15 15:11:38] suriah : my business morals guide me to integrity and I would leave this place for dust but the leverage is most useful tool
[2016-12-15 15:12:12] rapidtrades : suriah: only a matter of time till u get mexed :)
[2016-12-15 15:12:25] sleger : but that doesnt apply to me, everyone saw what happened, they have just as much reason as I do
[2016-12-15 15:12:50] suriah : sleger: if the exchange fucks me hard enough I will be sure to fuck them rest assured
[2016-12-15 15:13:04] rapidtrades : sleger: but ppl don't learn until it happens to them
[2016-12-15 15:13:10] l3f : did sleger start with a small loan of a million dollars?
[2016-12-15 15:13:40] sleger : rapidtrades: you complain about zec but you also still trade here
[2016-12-15 15:13:40] rapidtrades : like i didn't make any changes after they screwed u..i only cut back on my trading here after they ZECed me
[2016-12-15 15:13:51] habibi : l3f: he made a small fortune on crypto, but he started with big one :p
[2016-12-15 15:14:00] sleger : i withdrew 2/3 of my deposit here after it happened and trade much less
[2016-12-15 15:14:09] habibi : example: he invested in wrong Ether, not classic :(
[2016-12-15 15:15:25] rapidtrades : there are no good alternatives for leveraged shorting
[2016-12-15 15:15:33] rapidtrades : its here okc or bitvc
[2016-12-15 15:15:46] rapidtrades : and i know okc fakes volume (and prolly runs bots)
[2016-12-15 15:15:57] l3f : I thought rapidshorts was long on zec
[2016-12-15 15:15:59] rapidtrades : sleger says bitvc fakes volume too
[2016-12-15 15:15:59] suriah : btcc
[2016-12-15 15:16:04] rapidtrades : so where u gonna go?
[2016-12-15 15:16:24] sleger : okc is really fine. bitvc is okish but much lower liquidity
[2016-12-15 15:16:26] suriah : they have never smashed me
[2016-12-15 15:16:35] l3f : #justwhaleproblems
[2016-12-15 15:16:40] rapidtrades : if u trade on exchange u take the risk of being buttfinexed
[2016-12-15 15:16:56] l3f : I got finexed and I wasn't even a whale
[2016-12-15 15:17:02] l3f : how much did sleger lose?
[2016-12-15 15:17:11] rapidtrades : it's pick ur poison at this point of development
[2016-12-15 15:17:20] sleger : on finex ?
[2016-12-15 15:17:25] suriah : yeah to some degree
[2016-12-15 15:17:26] l3f : ya
[2016-12-15 15:17:36] sleger : 5 digits
[2016-12-15 15:17:52] l3f : I went all in on bfx tokens, recovered some what
[2016-12-15 15:17:55] sleger : could have been worse
[2016-12-15 15:18:11] rapidtrades : sleger: not really, no
[2016-12-15 15:18:17] suriah : but these motherfuckers one day will choose the wrong character to shaft.
[2016-12-15 15:18:18] l3f : 5 digits is pretty bad
[2016-12-15 15:18:28] sleger : i've had much more at some point
[2016-12-15 15:18:37] l3f : goxxed?
[2016-12-15 15:18:41] sleger : yes
[2016-12-15 15:18:41] rapidtrades : they got me at my high point there
[2016-12-15 15:18:43] sleger : 3 cents left
[2016-12-15 15:18:49] l3f : shiieeet
[2016-12-15 15:18:59] sleger : i withdrew everything 2 weeks before gox
[2016-12-15 15:19:14] sleger : that i could tell soomething was going on
[2016-12-15 15:19:26] rapidtrades : sleger: smth was going on for months
[2016-12-15 15:19:27] l3f : sigh
[2016-12-15 15:19:35] l3f : one day, I'll worry about getting mexxed
[2016-12-15 15:19:43] rapidtrades : it had a $100 premium
[2016-12-15 15:19:45] suriah : to not know gox was in the shit you had to be blind
[2016-12-15 15:20:19] l3f : rapidtrades: from all the people selling to get out
[2016-12-15 15:20:31] l3f : buying*
[2016-12-15 15:21:00] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-12-15 15:21:18] rapidtrades : euro testing 1.04 again
[2016-12-15 15:24:11] suriah : can someone explain that candle on the dec 30 or am I safe to assume internal witchhunt?
[2016-12-15 15:25:06] sleger : I got out of gox when they premium was still very small, not sure exactly but like 2-3$ I think
[2016-12-15 15:26:14] suriah : need some volume on XMR to confirm this move
[2016-12-15 15:27:26] l3f : https://i.imgur.com/0sMbW1e.jpg
[2016-12-15 15:27:53] BitMEX_Greg : suriah: this was from a number of stops suddenly being executed. All at once. Since we mark to fair price, this caused no liquidations
[2016-12-15 15:31:27] suriah : BitMEX_Greg: well thats one thing going for bitmex. this marking feature is more sturdy
[2016-12-15 15:36:53] PARAFFIN : lol BTC :'D
[2016-12-15 15:37:06] PARAFFIN : yuan is crazy
[2016-12-15 15:42:20] bingbongfly : BTC is even less volatile then gold... Come one move btc! MOVE
[2016-12-15 15:42:59] PARAFFIN : bingbongfly: down or up?
[2016-12-15 15:43:12] bingbongfly : PARAFFIN: I don't care, just move already x)
[2016-12-15 15:44:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 19330 @ 0.001422
[2016-12-15 15:44:44] Rado : This was a nice call: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/ETCBTC/1SgrFojT-ETC-nearing-reversal/
[2016-12-15 15:44:46] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-15 15:47:31] mjones : lol etc rekt
[2016-12-15 15:48:06] mjones : didnt hit a new high just yet
[2016-12-15 15:50:39] Rado : mjones: new high on what timeframe?
[2016-12-15 15:51:03] mjones : polo 5 minute chart 0.00142143 is the high from 11 hours ago
[2016-12-15 15:55:53] bingbongfly : Rado: too early profittaking doe, not perfect but pretty good
[2016-12-15 15:56:48] Rado : there is no such thing as early
[2016-12-15 15:56:53] Rado : you only know after the fact
[2016-12-15 15:57:04] bingbongfly : Rado: ofc there is such thing as early
[2016-12-15 15:57:22] bingbongfly : Rado: I took profit when BTC hit 30$, are you saying that was not too early profit taking? :)
[2016-12-15 15:57:29] Rado : bingbongfly: attempt to call the top and see how you do
[2016-12-15 15:57:44] bingbongfly : Rado: Top 0.0018
[2016-12-15 15:57:58] Rado : ok, lets see
[2016-12-15 15:57:59] bingbongfly : Let's see, ofc I can be wrong too. It's very hard to hit the top
[2016-12-15 15:58:13] Rado : exactly
[2016-12-15 15:58:17] bingbongfly : A perfect trade would have been if he took profit at the absolute top
[2016-12-15 15:58:28] bingbongfly : But he took profit a tad to early, but still a good trade
[2016-12-15 15:58:31] Rado : again there is no such thing
[2016-12-15 15:58:32] bingbongfly : Like I said
[2016-12-15 15:58:38] bingbongfly : Ofc there is such a thing
[2016-12-15 15:58:56] Rado : I don't know of any good trader that takes profit at the top
[2016-12-15 15:59:09] bingbongfly : A perfect trader would
[2016-12-15 15:59:28] bingbongfly : I don't know any good trader that does it either
[2016-12-15 16:03:04] bingbongfly : mjones: not being able to make a new high there is a bit bearish actually, let's see if our friend whale puts up his walls again
[2016-12-15 17:32:30] inconspic : usd is rallying, btc don't give a fuck
[2016-12-15 17:32:50] inconspic : good stuff :)
[2016-12-15 17:33:10] inconspic : give a f**ck
[2016-12-15 17:34:20] inconspic : 80% profit so far on my zcrash short, also good stuff
[2016-12-15 17:58:07] sleger : yes what wrong could happen shorting zcash....
[2016-12-15 18:15:24] tech.coin : Hey Friends...
[2016-12-15 18:15:36] tech.coin : Good eveniiing
[2016-12-15 18:16:03] tech.coin : Hows trading?
[2016-12-15 18:17:33] tech.coin : Yeah Europe here..
[2016-12-15 18:22:28] RoftheN : I
[2016-12-15 18:22:34] RoftheN : When will bitcoin go down again?
[2016-12-15 18:29:15] tech.coin : In 2031.
[2016-12-15 18:29:17] zanza : Floor is in, go 100x long
[2016-12-15 18:29:32] tech.coin : ; )
[2016-12-15 18:34:05] tech.coin : Anyone knows how and where to scalp bitcoin?
[2016-12-15 18:37:17] rapidtrades : getting flashbacks? @sleger
[2016-12-15 18:37:31] sleger : ?
[2016-12-15 18:40:04] rapidtrades : sleger: from ur ZEC short?
[2016-12-15 18:40:19] sleger : ohh ok
[2016-12-15 18:40:29] tech.coin : I always ask myself how very short term traders, not to talk of high frequency even, can make profit with all that fees that apply?
[2016-12-15 18:40:33] sleger : it's the past
[2016-12-15 18:40:56] sleger : tech.coin: luck
[2016-12-15 18:42:00] rapidtrades : tech.coin: in stocks u get paid for limits, like u do here
[2016-12-15 18:42:06] tech.coin : I mean, there is 0.2 % fees plus spread, how can you make a profit in minutes or even seconds?
[2016-12-15 18:43:48] mjones : you wait for large movement
[2016-12-15 18:44:18] tech.coin : rapidtrades: thanx rapidtrades, do you know if theres some documentation here on this?
[2016-12-15 18:44:43] rapidtrades : yes here it is > place limit, get paid 0.35% if executed
[2016-12-15 18:44:57] rapidtrades : sry 0.035%
[2016-12-15 18:45:05] tech.coin : mjones: true. but that will include some risky money management tricks to survive longer ranges...
[2016-12-15 18:45:54] rapidtrades : 90% of what HFTs do is market making
[2016-12-15 18:46:31] tech.coin : rapidtrades: great thanks. so no 0,2% position opening fee but 0,035% profit by just getting filled?
[2016-12-15 18:47:06] rapidtrades : tech.coin: yes here u pay 0.07% for taking liquidity and 0.035% for providing
[2016-12-15 18:49:07] tech.coin : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees ?
[2016-12-15 18:49:56] rapidtrades : yes that's it
[2016-12-15 18:50:22] rapidtrades : wait a min...when did the rebate fall to 2.5? it was 3.5
[2016-12-15 18:51:13] rapidtrades : wtf bitmex?
[2016-12-15 18:51:49] rapidtrades : fees are now almost double of okc and thats' with 1 limit filled
[2016-12-15 18:51:52] BitMEX_Greg : It's never been 3.5bps, its always been 2.5bps
[2016-12-15 18:51:58] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-12-15 18:52:23] BitMEX_Greg : 7.5/2.5
[2016-12-15 18:52:25] rapidtrades : sleger: back me up
[2016-12-15 18:53:01] tech.coin : Hi @BitMEX_Greg ! Whats long funding/short funding ?
[2016-12-15 18:53:24] BitMEX_Greg : tech.coin: Hi, this is the interest rate paid between long holders and the short holders of the XBTUSD swap product.
[2016-12-15 18:53:42] BitMEX_Greg : You can read more here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Mechanics-of-a-Swap-Market
[2016-12-15 18:53:50] tech.coin : Oh, I see. Thanx.
[2016-12-15 18:54:38] tech.coin : BitMEX_Greg: Is there a possibility to replicate a binary option on this platform?
[2016-12-15 18:56:19] BitMEX_Greg : tech.coin: You would need to delta hedge consistently I think
[2016-12-15 18:57:07] rapidtrades : wtf.....it was 3.5 before
[2016-12-15 18:57:34] BitMEX_Greg : Before my time perhaps?
[2016-12-15 18:58:16] rapidtrades : i think so?
[2016-12-15 18:58:29] rapidtrades : sleger: yes or no?
[2016-12-15 18:59:31] rapidtrades : Rado: help
[2016-12-15 19:06:54] BitMEX_Greg : It's been 7.5/2.5 for at least a year. Before that I think it was something and 0, but I don't ever remember the rebate being 3.5bps
[2016-12-15 19:07:43] tech.coin : https://www.kraken.com/help/fees how is it possible ??
[2016-12-15 19:10:01] rapidtrades : this is a futures exchange
[2016-12-15 19:10:29] rapidtrades : we're just trading paper here
[2016-12-15 19:11:03] tech.coin : sure. but profit/loss is the same, isnt it?
[2016-12-15 19:11:36] tech.coin : with XBTUSD
[2016-12-15 19:12:07] tech.coin : via kaiko
[2016-12-15 19:12:08] BitMEX_Greg : tech.coin: Unsure of your question. XBTUSD here is a different product to XBTUSD on Kraken
[2016-12-15 19:12:57] tech.coin : My question actually is now, what do you mean by "rebate" (fees)?
[2016-12-15 19:13:14] BitMEX_Greg : rebate means that you earn the fee back
[2016-12-15 19:13:20] RocketScience : as a market maker
[2016-12-15 19:13:28] BitMEX_Greg : So if you submit passive orders as a maker, then you earn 2.5bps on every executed trade
[2016-12-15 19:14:45] RocketScience : Any good technical analysis for bitcoin?
[2016-12-15 19:14:54] tech.coin : So I just earn that percentage, because a rebate would be deducted from some other fee?
[2016-12-15 19:15:25] BitMEX_Greg : tech.coin: Yes you earn it. We reward people for providing liquidity
[2016-12-15 19:15:52] tech.coin : 0,025% of the position for a filled limit order whatever the outcome + profit or loss?
[2016-12-15 19:16:36] BitMEX_Greg : yes, no matter the unrealised PNL on your position if you have on open. You will earn 0.025% on any executed passive maker order
[2016-12-15 19:17:08] rapidtrades : passive limit order
[2016-12-15 19:17:09] tech.coin : on the value of my entry position?
[2016-12-15 19:17:17] tech.coin : size
[2016-12-15 19:17:47] BitMEX_Greg : tech.coin: You earn 0.025% on the order size that is executed
[2016-12-15 19:18:23] tech.coin : @rapidtrades: passive?
[2016-12-15 19:18:42] BitMEX_Greg : tech.coin: passive means you are not taking liquidity
[2016-12-15 19:18:56] rapidtrades : order that rests on the orderbook @tech.coin
[2016-12-15 19:19:05] RocketScience : You can check Post-only so you won't buy existing bids/asks
[2016-12-15 19:21:03] tech.coin : RocketScience: Great. And when I dont check possibly I do not get a rebate, but do I pay the taker fee then?
[2016-12-15 19:21:17] tech.coin : Its still a limit order
[2016-12-15 19:21:32] RocketScience : yes, then you are a taker
[2016-12-15 19:21:44] RocketScience : because you accepted the bid/ask from someone technically
[2016-12-15 19:22:00] tech.coin : Oh, okay. Thanx for the tip @ @RocketScience!!
[2016-12-15 19:22:43] BitMEX_Greg : :+1:
[2016-12-15 19:22:44] tech.coin : And thanks rapidtrades for the info about the fees.
[2016-12-15 19:22:47] RocketScience : On XBTUSD perpetual swap there is zero gap right now...so you would do it post only
[2016-12-15 19:24:00] tech.coin : You mean the 0,01 spread?
[2016-12-15 19:25:04] RocketScience : yes
[2016-12-15 19:54:02] tech.coin : Good night everybody. Thanx for the inputs...
[2016-12-15 19:54:10] RocketScience : Good night
[2016-12-15 19:54:35] tech.coin : : )
[2016-12-15 19:54:42] tech.coin : out.
[2016-12-15 19:56:52] Rado : rapidtrades: it's always been 0.075 and 0.025 since I joined
[2016-12-15 19:57:46] Rado : only in the bonus period if you joined from a affiliate link you get discount on the taker fee
[2016-12-15 20:00:25] mjones : 12 hours till new quarterly
[2016-12-15 20:00:29] mjones : get hyped
[2016-12-15 20:06:03] zanza : March 17 ?
[2016-12-15 20:06:48] zanza : wow ETC
[2016-12-15 20:06:51] zanza : ETH getting shit on
[2016-12-15 20:14:33] RocketScience : bitcoin bbands are tight
[2016-12-15 20:15:45] mjones : 4 hour for sure
[2016-12-15 20:19:44] RocketScience : fct ready to challenge 311 sellwall
[2016-12-15 20:39:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 939 @ 0.009840
[2016-12-15 20:43:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 50 @ 0.009790
[2016-12-15 20:50:20] zanza : ETC is 14% ETH now
[2016-12-15 20:52:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 186 @ 0.009710
[2016-12-15 20:54:23] TB : zanza: ?
[2016-12-15 20:54:47] zanza : the price
[2016-12-15 20:55:04] TB : what are the respective hashrates
[2016-12-15 20:55:21] sleger : TB: zanza is a well known troll here, just ignore
[2016-12-15 20:58:59] mjones : bitmex guys. will XBTH17 have the 200 XBT risk limit at opening like how XBTZ16 currently is 200 XBT for 100x?
[2016-12-15 21:07:30] anonymous789 : great time to buy eth
[2016-12-15 21:08:09] mjones : too late now. already bouncing
[2016-12-15 21:17:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: sell 2 @ 0.048347
[2016-12-15 21:24:12] Velancry : anyone long on xbt?
[2016-12-15 21:25:30] mjones : no
[2016-12-15 21:27:01] Velancry : i have been short for a few days now i hope it drops soon
[2016-12-15 21:31:03] TB : Velancry: yes
[2016-12-15 21:37:04] BitMEX_Greg : mjones: I will double check
[2016-12-15 21:37:21] BitMEX_Greg : Most likely it will be the same
[2016-12-15 21:37:46] tb : why did this guy steal my username
[2016-12-15 21:37:50] tb : ^^
[2016-12-15 21:40:29] CaptainDean : he wants a ransom
[2016-12-15 21:40:39] CaptainDean : for you name ;-)
[2016-12-15 21:41:07] tb : ill pay .001 btc for him to change i
[2016-12-15 21:41:23] TB : im not that cheap
[2016-12-15 21:41:47] RocketScience : TB= TrollBro
[2016-12-15 21:42:48] TB : :)
[2016-12-15 21:43:08] tb : how about .01?
[2016-12-15 21:43:45] TB : ok
[2016-12-15 21:44:36] tb : how do we do this
[2016-12-15 21:45:33] TB : 3BMEXKJqBcZfThXdDr38thyKJvbY6s7nFK <=
[2016-12-15 21:45:41] TB : There is but one way
[2016-12-15 21:46:12] TB : I\ll log a ticket to change my chatname
[2016-12-15 21:46:24] sleger : once the transaction is in, support please change my name to TB
[2016-12-15 21:46:45] tb : lol
[2016-12-15 21:46:49] TB : See it was all jokes till the wallet addie pops up
[2016-12-15 21:46:56] tb : you go through all this for .01 btc?
[2016-12-15 21:47:06] TB : its an email dude
[2016-12-15 21:47:13] TB : and 2 digits in a chatbox
[2016-12-15 21:47:18] sleger : it's almost $8
[2016-12-15 21:47:27] tb : just short some zec
[2016-12-15 21:47:35] BTCDJS : Is this big brother and little brother duo named after their father?
[2016-12-15 21:47:42] TB : tb: good luck with that one :)
[2016-12-15 21:47:54] TB : T8
[2016-12-15 21:48:01] TB : that is the father
[2016-12-15 21:48:17] tb : are here restrictions on usernames being unique?
[2016-12-15 21:48:30] RocketScience : everyone post your deposit address for donations xD
[2016-12-15 21:48:37] TB : yes
[2016-12-15 21:48:53] TB : But capitals and lowercase are different ASCII symbols
[2016-12-15 21:49:31] BTCDJS : †ß was your father
[2016-12-15 21:49:46] TB : If you make your username c u n t, does it get converted to cunt
[2016-12-15 21:49:53] mjones : cunt
[2016-12-15 21:49:56] mjones : no
[2016-12-15 21:50:04] mjones : someone has the name fuc k
[2016-12-15 21:50:14] TB : fuck
[2016-12-15 21:50:43] TB : guess someone got fucked on here
[2016-12-15 21:50:57] RocketScience : if he get's his 0.01 btc once...this will become his business model
[2016-12-15 21:50:59] RocketScience : :D
[2016-12-15 21:51:11] tb : https://blockchain.info/address/3BMEXKJqBcZfThXdDr38thyKJvbY6s7nFK
[2016-12-15 21:51:15] TB : squatting usernames you next rocket
[2016-12-15 21:51:38] TB : wow ok, didnt think that was gonna happen
[2016-12-15 21:51:43] TB : I'll pop a ticket
[2016-12-15 21:51:53] sleger : me too
[2016-12-15 21:52:29] TB : Business model incoming
[2016-12-15 21:52:37] mjones : damn. that's a nice sandwich at the local shop
[2016-12-15 21:52:42] sleger : tb: 0.2
[2016-12-15 21:52:55] RocketScience : a Hamburger
[2016-12-15 21:53:05] sleger : 7 macdo
[2016-12-15 21:53:43] TB : So what should my new name be?
[2016-12-15 21:53:45] TB : rocketScience?
[2016-12-15 21:53:55] tb : s1eger
[2016-12-15 21:53:59] TB : Sleger?
[2016-12-15 21:54:00] tb : s|eger
[2016-12-15 21:54:03] tb : Sleger
[2016-12-15 21:54:03] tb : yeah
[2016-12-15 21:54:07] sleger : lol
[2016-12-15 21:54:20] sleger : i'll give you 0.01 to not use Sleger
[2016-12-15 21:54:26] TB : captaindean, oh yeah
[2016-12-15 21:54:34] TB : first one to suggest ransom
[2016-12-15 21:55:57] TB : Ok, so in future my name shall be TrollBro
[2016-12-15 21:56:24] sleger : tb is for tuberculosis anyways
[2016-12-15 21:56:43] sleger : who'd want that...
[2016-12-15 21:56:50] TB : sleger: didnt think of that, crap...
[2016-12-15 22:08:22] mjones : people want xmr
[2016-12-15 22:12:45] RocketScience : give me fomo, give me fire!
[2016-12-15 22:18:59] mjones : etc bouncing
[2016-12-15 22:56:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 1 @ 0.001408
[2016-12-15 23:07:28] sleger : mario run is available !
[2016-12-15 23:09:59] j8 : i bet it fails big league
[2016-12-15 23:10:25] sleger : i dont think so everyone will just pay for it.
[2016-12-15 23:10:29] sleger : how much is it ?
[2016-12-15 23:10:33] j8 : but i don't have an iphone so i'm bitter
[2016-12-15 23:10:35] j8 : it's 10 bucks
[2016-12-15 23:10:47] sleger : ouch
[2016-12-15 23:11:04] sleger : it's the standard price for forcing someone to change username
[2016-12-15 23:11:19] j8 : i guess when you put it that way
[2016-12-15 23:11:51] j8 : but who wants to play mario with one finger on a phone, really...
[2016-12-15 23:12:37] sleger : im going to respond between every new world
[2016-12-15 23:13:55] CaptainDean : There is only one red CaptainDean !
[2016-12-15 23:13:58] CaptainDean : ;-)
[2016-12-15 23:14:19] CaptainDean : This ransom thing was a pure joke, but funny become reals sometime !
[2016-12-15 23:15:18] zanza : these bbands looking pretty tight
[2016-12-15 23:17:33] sleger : why are you talking about your underwear here ?
[2016-12-15 23:43:05] sleger : i wanna buy XBJZ16, any offer better than the orderbook for size ?
[2016-12-15 23:52:41] zanza : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-15/bizarre-reason-why-worlds-worst-currency-just-soared-60
[2016-12-15 23:52:56] zanza : Bolivar is the new shitcoin to speculate on
[2016-12-15 23:55:00] j8 : sleger: i might sell some but i need to close short on the weekly, and that probably won't happen until settlement
[2016-12-15 23:56:11] sleger : there is a big premium on that somehow
[2016-12-15 23:56:49] j8 : and yet not on the daily which settles at the exact same price
[2016-12-15 23:57:07] sleger : yes always funny the last day
[2016-12-15 23:57:22] sleger : im long J7d so closing some
[2016-12-15 23:58:16] j8 : i sold some at 95000 and it's starting to be not an outrageous price
[2016-12-15 23:58:43] sleger : ah you got lucky
[2016-12-15 23:58:51] sleger : those trades should have been reversed
[2016-12-15 23:58:56] sleger : like they did on quoine
[2016-12-15 23:59:07] j8 : yeah, but ya know bitmex doesn't do that
[2016-12-15 23:59:12] sleger : i wasnt involved in any of those trades though so can speak with any interest
[2016-12-15 23:59:52] sleger : someone posted a big buy on J7d
[2016-12-16 00:00:23] j8 : it's likely the MM had trades reversed on quoine and not reversed here
[2016-12-16 00:00:40] sleger : MM stopped J after that
[2016-12-16 00:00:56] sleger : that would be surprising that bitmex wouldnt help the MM though
[2016-12-16 00:01:51] j8 : yeah they are responsible for a ton of volume, assuming it's the same "main" mm
[2016-12-16 00:02:17] sleger : yes it very likely is. If i were them i would have negotiated over 50% of equity in bitmex
[2016-12-16 00:04:28] sleger : premium slowly building everywhere
[2016-12-16 01:08:11] mjones : how to kill 7 more hours
[2016-12-16 01:08:36] thiago : the gui is looking all blurred up with chrome :/
[2016-12-16 01:12:46] sleger : not here
[2016-12-16 01:15:30] arbitrage001 : mjones: star war rogue is out
[2016-12-16 01:15:42] arbitrage001 : going out to watch it
[2016-12-16 01:15:48] arbitrage001 : discount in the morning
[2016-12-16 01:30:41] mjones : 5454.54 CNY how nice
[2016-12-16 01:31:39] j8 : 5555.55 would be even nicer
[2016-12-16 01:31:49] mjones : that's the 2016 okcoin high
[2016-12-16 01:31:55] mjones : i think it's 5555.00 cny
[2016-12-16 01:53:08] mjones : dang. i'm gonna binge watch Drunk History on youtube. never seen this before
[2016-12-16 01:53:48] mjones : btc dont pump yet
[2016-12-16 01:53:52] mjones : too soon too soon
[2016-12-16 01:54:14] sleger : too late
[2016-12-16 01:54:55] startChat : how boring
[2016-12-16 01:56:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 150000 @ 785.63 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-12-16 01:56:11] mjones : lol wtf
[2016-12-16 01:56:15] KingTuna : lol why short
[2016-12-16 01:56:29] sleger : cause otherwise nobody would be long
[2016-12-16 01:56:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 30000 @ 786.70
[2016-12-16 01:56:39] KingTuna : wow
[2016-12-16 01:56:39] mjones : damn fomo
[2016-12-16 02:09:43] aethlios : scummy china wait a few hours for the quarterlies
[2016-12-16 02:10:16] aethlios : will they pump it to the core?
[2016-12-16 02:10:49] mjones : just means quarterly premium will be crazy
[2016-12-16 02:11:34] mjones : almost new 2016 high in china which is 3 year high
[2016-12-16 02:11:37] aethlios : yes, try to bid cheap for 20 premium
[2016-12-16 02:11:57] mjones : 5498 cny just hit
[2016-12-16 02:12:26] mjones : 5498 cny
[2016-12-16 02:12:29] mjones : damn
[2016-12-16 02:12:39] CaptainDean : come on BTC just lift off !
[2016-12-16 02:12:52] aethlios : so strong btc, dollar super strong and btc beats the dollar. poor gold and silver massacred.
[2016-12-16 02:13:16] mjones : lol etc buyers
[2016-12-16 02:14:39] aethlios : let's make swap premiums grate again.
[2016-12-16 02:15:18] CaptainDean : THE WALL
[2016-12-16 02:15:19] mjones : expecting it's gonna be huge
[2016-12-16 02:16:03] CaptainDean : that is a good bet on a "Huston we don't have alift off"
[2016-12-16 02:16:06] CaptainDean : ;-)
[2016-12-16 02:16:30] CaptainDean : and it's gone
[2016-12-16 02:16:32] mjones : thinking price will be $850 on march 31st
[2016-12-16 02:17:03] CaptainDean : we break 780, i think it'll be a goof jump
[2016-12-16 02:17:09] CaptainDean : but hey .. who knows. ..
[2016-12-16 02:18:02] mjones : i just wanna long the new quarterly then it can pump 20% and another 20% because it is so new
[2016-12-16 02:18:41] mjones : in b4 huge pump and dumps and lots of adl
[2016-12-16 02:18:45] CaptainDean : that is something i never had the faith to trade
[2016-12-16 02:18:55] CaptainDean : i'm not good enough for that
[2016-12-16 02:19:14] mjones : you wont be able to short and survive unless it's like 5x or less
[2016-12-16 02:20:12] CaptainDean : anyway i'm just trading small amount, low risk. learning process
[2016-12-16 02:20:32] CaptainDean : but I have been interresting the quatertly recently
[2016-12-16 02:21:01] CaptainDean : like i sat the Zec introduction but did learn a lot during th eprocess
[2016-12-16 02:21:17] CaptainDean : anyway leverage is like too small for the trade i want to do
[2016-12-16 02:21:45] CaptainDean : my only regret is to not have 10 BTC when they annonce the roof would not be remove (10 BTC)
[2016-12-16 02:25:29] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/QAt7ES1s/
[2016-12-16 02:25:41] aethlios : posted that 2 or 3 days ago
[2016-12-16 02:28:51] CaptainDean : I wish i could bet a house on that
[2016-12-16 02:28:55] CaptainDean : hahahahah ;-)
[2016-12-16 02:29:11] mjones : yeah only the most stubborn bears dont think it's going up
[2016-12-16 02:29:33] mjones : and they think that because they are out of ammo to keep price down and cant send it lower to get back in
[2016-12-16 02:30:37] mjones : i see people post their trading groups have money on the side to get in lower. or most people sold and looking to get back in
[2016-12-16 02:31:31] mjones : besides a few minutes on a flash dump good luck getting in low
[2016-12-16 02:31:40] aethlios : mjones: the market always offers opportunity, like the bitfinex hack gave a 480 decent entry
[2016-12-16 02:31:57] mjones : lol "always"
[2016-12-16 02:32:06] mjones : maybe a few weeks by chance
[2016-12-16 02:32:36] CaptainDean : I just hope flash touch the ATH, better if the price take his timing and form some support
[2016-12-16 02:32:45] CaptainDean : I just hope wont don't**
[2016-12-16 02:32:54] CaptainDean : his time**
[2016-12-16 02:33:38] CaptainDean : aethlios: How did you generate the prediction line on your graphic ? This is maths ?handwriting ?
[2016-12-16 02:36:50] aethlios : CaptainDean: it is technical analysis, ascending triangle pattern break out, happened previous 2 times as my chart shows.
[2016-12-16 02:36:58] aethlios : https://www.google.gr/search?q=bullish+triangle+pattern+break+out&espv=2&biw=2072&bih=1260&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjNzr3l1vfQAhXKAxoKHXAfDqAQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=ascending+triangle+pattern+break+out&imgrc=dMTV9ann_av0fM%3A
[2016-12-16 02:37:42] CaptainDean : aethlios: thanks going to see that right away
[2016-12-16 02:38:27] aethlios : you should study one or two books about technical analysis. are free in pdf on google
[2016-12-16 02:39:18] aethlios : https://www.google.gr/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=edwards%20magee%20technical%20analysis%20of%20stock%20trends%20pdf
[2016-12-16 02:39:46] aethlios : this is a well known book and has it all, a little heavy but has it all/
[2016-12-16 02:40:13] CaptainDean : I should be fine with the heavy ! :D
[2016-12-16 02:40:18] CaptainDean : aethlios: thank you
[2016-12-16 02:40:41] aethlios : https://www.google.gr/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=reminiscences%20of%20a%20stock%20operator%20pdf
[2016-12-16 02:40:51] aethlios : reminiscences of a stock operator
[2016-12-16 02:41:56] aethlios : also that for trading psychology, basically it will save you many mistakes. those two books are basic to start clicking the buy sell buttons
[2016-12-16 02:42:33] aethlios : search on amazon to read reviews
[2016-12-16 02:45:50] CaptainDean : aethlios: I think you already suggested me the first book
[2016-12-16 02:46:04] CaptainDean : aethlios: sorry the second one, I have read a good part of it
[2016-12-16 02:47:11] mjones : damn xbtz16 complete retrace.
[2016-12-16 02:47:53] mjones : lol
[2016-12-16 02:47:54] mjones : wow dump
[2016-12-16 02:48:00] mjones : get rekt
[2016-12-16 02:48:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: sell 10500 @ 779.90
[2016-12-16 02:49:27] mjones : lol
[2016-12-16 02:49:28] mjones : wow