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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-12-14 15:54:34] l3f : aethlios: will go negative for sure [2016-12-14 15:54:35] aethlios : ??? [2016-12-14 15:54:42] PARAFFIN : thanks [2016-12-14 15:54:44] mjones : there was 190,000 and now 3 77,000 contract walls put up by the same person i'm guessing [2016-12-14 15:55:05] aethlios : mjones: bitmex is a sea of whales. [2016-12-14 15:55:15] l3f : and dolphins [2016-12-14 15:55:15] l3f : and small fry [2016-12-14 15:57:33] aethlios : noone expects the fed to raise rates know. [2016-12-14 15:57:47] l3f : it's already priced in [2016-12-14 15:58:05] mjones : the dump was it being priced in [2016-12-14 15:58:11] aethlios : l3f: premium for quarterly around 20 usd is a bargain [2016-12-14 15:58:45] aethlios : I will bid 20 usd premium here and on okcoin in large amounts. [2016-12-14 15:59:10] l3f : aethlios: sorry I don't understand are you saying it should be more? [2016-12-14 15:59:27] l3f : or are you expecting the biggest dump ever [2016-12-14 15:59:57] aethlios : l3f: it should be around 50. [2016-12-14 16:00:10] l3f : as 720? [2016-12-14 16:00:15] l3f : as in* [2016-12-14 16:00:16] justinlooking : aethlios: wut? z16 ed futures are 99.00... market has 0.5% hike priced in... [2016-12-14 16:00:17] Rado : aethlios: when it starts moving up it will get there [2016-12-14 16:00:18] Rado : not now [2016-12-14 16:00:23] justinlooking : http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/stir/eurodollar.html [2016-12-14 16:01:05] Rado : I think USD will crash after the FED [2016-12-14 16:03:57] l3f : Why is okcoin premium so high? [2016-12-14 16:04:07] mjones : because the index is higher [2016-12-14 16:04:17] l3f : oh lol ok-coin is censored as woodchipper [2016-12-14 16:04:24] l3f : had no fucking idea what the woodchipper is [2016-12-14 16:04:48] mjones : it is only $5 higher on 0kcoin quarterly [2016-12-14 16:05:03] mjones : about $3 higher here [2016-12-14 16:05:04] l3f : You mean 10 dollars? [2016-12-14 16:05:18] mjones : i got okcoin.com open right now and looking at it doing the math [2016-12-14 16:05:37] mjones : 5405 current price and index is 5370 CNY. 35 CNY = $5 [2016-12-14 16:06:08] thomaskikansha : 40 hours till new quarterlies on okc [2016-12-14 16:06:17] mjones : $4.34 higher now on 0kcoin quarterly [2016-12-14 16:06:39] mjones : not much difference between bitmex and 0kcoin. so when the new one starts i bet it'll mirror 0kcoin for the most part [2016-12-14 16:07:35] AudibleScience : l3f: http://i.imgur.com/t0Pw9AN.png [2016-12-14 16:07:45] thomaskikansha : bitmex and okc use diff index for settlement? [2016-12-14 16:08:17] sleger : mjones: but @Rado told you the premium will be much higher here [2016-12-14 16:08:27] l3f : AudibleScience: ah hence the woodchipper [2016-12-14 16:08:48] mjones : if @Rado is a whale and will keep the premium higher, then they'll be right [2016-12-14 16:09:14] PARAFFIN : will it go lower or turn back up? I have short pos [2016-12-14 16:09:31] justinlooking : PARAFFIN: thy will be rekt [2016-12-14 16:09:56] PARAFFIN : no i ment if it will go lower today [2016-12-14 16:09:58] PARAFFIN : lol [2016-12-14 16:10:46] thomaskikansha : not much downside or it dumps hard [2016-12-14 16:11:11] AudibleScience : PARAFFIN: short from what entry though? [2016-12-14 16:11:40] l3f : PARAFFIN: it will go up just enough to liquidate you then go down again [2016-12-14 16:11:55] l3f : it's the circle of life [2016-12-14 16:12:02] PARAFFIN : AudibleScience: 772,49 [2016-12-14 16:12:21] l3f : PARAFFIN: you may have shorted the bottom [2016-12-14 16:12:48] AudibleScience : PARAFFIN: yeah that's what I was about to say... [2016-12-14 16:12:56] PARAFFIN : l3f: i should get faster i think [2016-12-14 16:15:26] AudibleScience : PARAFFIN: if you have plenty of margin left you can always short more from the next top [2016-12-14 16:15:49] l3f : and maybe try the roulette table? [2016-12-14 16:15:58] l3f : plenty of games in this casino [2016-12-14 16:16:05] l3f : short eth, it's a crowd favourite [2016-12-14 16:18:12] AudibleScience : PARAFFIN: but if you're all in at 100x already, mmm hold on to your seat and prepare yourself to get rekt man! [2016-12-14 16:18:13] PARAFFIN : l3f: i have to less luck i think ^^ [2016-12-14 16:18:45] PARAFFIN : AudibleScience: what why? [2016-12-14 16:19:26] Velancry : Why is bitcoin staying in the 770!!!! go down please [2016-12-14 16:20:03] AudibleScience : only if you're at 100x man. You're not though are you? @PARAFFIN [2016-12-14 16:21:12] PARAFFIN : 5x [2016-12-14 16:21:26] Rekted : PARAFFIN: buy some balls dude [2016-12-14 16:22:02] Velancry : go all in 100x $$$ [2016-12-14 16:22:24] Rekted : Velancry: nice advice [2016-12-14 16:22:26] JamesPolo : 100x for big boi profits [2016-12-14 16:22:28] PARAFFIN : :-D [2016-12-14 16:22:36] AudibleScience : PARAFFIN: oh cool, good for you then man, you should be just fine then! [2016-12-14 16:23:18] JamesPolo : Just short zec you'll make it back [2016-12-14 16:23:32] l3f : JamesPolo: you'll break rapidtrades' heart [2016-12-14 16:24:03] Velancry : yes short that shit of a currency, let zec die die die [2016-12-14 16:24:16] l3f : y'all new kids, rapidtrades is a famous trader who comes here and he has made $$$ profits [2016-12-14 16:24:26] l3f : sorry $$$$$$$ profits [2016-12-14 16:24:37] l3f : listen to his advice [2016-12-14 16:24:53] JamesPolo : l3f: now they will all think its easy [2016-12-14 16:25:10] l3f : rule 1: don't break rapidtrades' heart [2016-12-14 16:25:21] l3f : rule 2: ask him about his zec [2016-12-14 16:25:36] Velancry : l3f: how much profit has he made? [2016-12-14 16:25:40] l3f : too much [2016-12-14 16:25:49] Velancry : in 9000%? [2016-12-14 16:25:51] Rekted : l3f: rule 3 stop suck his balls [2016-12-14 16:25:56] l3f : oh yes [2016-12-14 16:26:02] mjones : zec found a bottom. solid long. but wait till friday so you can 5x long zec for mad gainz [2016-12-14 16:26:36] Velancry : If its solely on bitmex thats pretty impressive but I dont belive it until I see proof. [2016-12-14 16:26:39] l3f : he is also very famous in china [2016-12-14 16:27:03] Velancry : zec is a suicide mission [2016-12-14 16:29:37] mjones : if you got balls. short etc. triple top and dumping now [2016-12-14 16:30:42] PARAFFIN : xmr [2016-12-14 16:44:44] rapidtrades : stop buying dumb whale [2016-12-14 16:44:46] aethlios : zec buy 0.04 for a rally pump to 0.007 [2016-12-14 16:44:53] aethlios : 0.07 [2016-12-14 16:47:03] mjones : z16 almost back to predump level. someone excited [2016-12-14 16:48:14] l3f : rapidtrades: they can't dump without some coins can they [2016-12-14 17:04:38] sleger : rapidtrades: how is your new apartment ? Did you get a couch ? [2016-12-14 17:10:36] rapidtrades : sleger: yes but it's hard [2016-12-14 17:10:56] sleger : it's good for your bum [2016-12-14 17:14:46] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/258PAICB/ [2016-12-14 17:15:23] aethlios : okcoin quarterly. consolidation almost over, 2 senarios. [2016-12-14 17:15:43] rapidtrades : red ftw [2016-12-14 17:16:01] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/0jj9SPRs/ [2016-12-14 17:16:01] rapidtrades : love how there's no scenario under which bitcoin goes down [2016-12-14 17:16:25] sleger : it just cant [2016-12-14 17:16:27] sleger : it tried [2016-12-14 17:16:35] aethlios : rapidtrades: down senario is shortterm, bull trend contineus [2016-12-14 17:16:54] rapidtrades : dont forget that ppl were this bullish at the start of 2014 too [2016-12-14 17:17:29] rapidtrades : 10,000 BTC was the mean forecast [2016-12-14 17:19:18] aethlios : early 2014 we already had 1000% pump in 2 months, it is like we go to 10,000 until March and still be bullish. We are still 35% off ATH, like being 75 usd mid 2013. [2016-12-14 17:19:52] rapidtrades : and now we had a 628% pump from the 150 lows [2016-12-14 17:19:57] rapidtrades : not very different [2016-12-14 17:20:34] rapidtrades : ppl are bullish because we keep going up [2016-12-14 17:21:01] rapidtrades : it's only the duration of the pump that's different [2016-12-14 17:21:59] rapidtrades : usd/cnh back below 6.90 [2016-12-14 17:24:35] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/us-regulators-discuss-difficulties-of-smart-contract-oversight/ [2016-12-14 17:24:44] rapidtrades : ^ not good for ether [2016-12-14 17:26:40] sleger : vitalik has it under control [2016-12-14 17:27:49] rapidtrades : Zuko > Vitalik [2016-12-14 17:28:15] rapidtrades : 2017 is Zeko's year, he will lead us back to Greatness [2016-12-14 17:36:54] sleger : vitalik > infinity > anything else [2016-12-14 17:40:53] sleger : > Rado > macios15 > jung1 < -infinity [2016-12-14 17:42:20] mjones : Xmr going up [2016-12-14 17:58:26] BTCDJS : Come on bitcoin. Fall. its ok. I will catch you. And hope somebody much stronger than me is going to catch you too, cos I don't want to get squashed [2016-12-14 18:02:22] PARAFFIN : BTCDJS: LOL [2016-12-14 18:05:21] sleger : which one is the oracle guy again ? [2016-12-14 18:05:39] sleger : why the hell does java install want to change my browser settings to use yahoo ??? wth ? [2016-12-14 18:06:24] rapidtrades : yep [2016-12-14 18:06:43] sleger : i want him to apologize and quit his job [2016-12-14 18:07:02] rapidtrades : just say no [2016-12-14 18:07:24] rapidtrades : are u offended that they asked? lol [2016-12-14 18:07:48] sleger : they dont ask, its pre selected by default, if you dont pay attention and click next it will change it [2016-12-14 18:07:53] sleger : that should be illegal [2016-12-14 18:07:58] rapidtrades : lol [2016-12-14 18:08:22] rapidtrades : glad that's high on ur priorities [2016-12-14 18:09:03] sleger : high there with btcjpy [2016-12-14 18:27:35] mjones : Sleger cause Java Sold itself to the highest bidder [2016-12-14 18:34:06] imabeast : xmrdoe [2016-12-14 18:36:38] mjones : Xmr the second best coin [2016-12-14 18:42:58] mjones : xmr whale always has a few hundred BTC to throw up in support [2016-12-14 18:44:56] PARAFFIN : buy xmr now? [2016-12-14 18:48:42] rapidtrades : 11 minutes...no doubt some tool will knee-jerk on this decision [2016-12-14 18:49:50] imabeast : PARAFFIN: if bitcoin drops/ more sideways expect xmr to move [2016-12-14 18:50:16] imabeast : short term target it .0114 [2016-12-14 19:00:13] aethlios : rase rates [2016-12-14 19:00:36] sleger : raze [2016-12-14 19:01:02] aethlios : 3 increses every year fed says [2016-12-14 19:01:17] aethlios : buy btc yuan above 7 soon [2016-12-14 19:01:23] sleger : buy yellow bitcoinz [2016-12-14 19:01:47] aethlios : 10-0 votes for increase [2016-12-14 19:02:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCZ16`: buy 1000 @ 5464.4 [2016-12-14 19:02:48] rapidtrades : Fed projects 1 extra rate rise next year [2016-12-14 19:02:59] rapidtrades : there's that idiot fomo [2016-12-14 19:03:54] mjones : btc pumping [2016-12-14 19:05:15] mjones : up $13 after that fake out dump [2016-12-14 19:05:52] rapidtrades : 'fake' [2016-12-14 19:06:40] mjones : well wasnt fake. it got PARAFFIN to short [2016-12-14 19:07:19] aethlios : xbtz16 whale knew. [2016-12-14 19:08:11] rapidtrades : he knew nothing, it's just an idiot fomo [2016-12-14 19:08:12] sleger : buy z16 at 780, sell swap at 779.5, winwin [2016-12-14 19:08:31] rapidtrades : plz keep ur stupid opinions to urself [2016-12-14 19:08:50] sleger : XBTZ16 10000 2000 0 780.02 and many more [2016-12-14 19:09:10] sleger : and now XBTUSD 4000 -935 0 779.75 [2016-12-14 19:09:13] rapidtrades : we're going into discount soon [2016-12-14 19:09:14] aethlios : eurusd support 1.05 wont hold this time. 0.84 next. [2016-12-14 19:09:45] rapidtrades : Euro isn't going anywhere today [2016-12-14 19:10:04] rapidtrades : Euro isn't going anywhere today unless Yellen shits on the press [2016-12-14 19:10:19] aethlios : btc reacting to fed decisions, that's something important for btc as an asset. [2016-12-14 19:10:19] mjones : i'm expecting china to pump btc like crazy. [2016-12-14 19:10:28] Gekko : another reason to sell CNY [2016-12-14 19:10:32] mjones : cant wait for that new quarterly to open. long the shit out of it and wait 3 months [2016-12-14 19:11:02] rapidtrades : aethlios: it's idiots knee-jerking [2016-12-14 19:11:05] PARAFFIN : omg whats happening [2016-12-14 19:11:14] rapidtrades : nothing [2016-12-14 19:11:27] justinlooking : thy will be rekt [2016-12-14 19:11:49] sleger : bitcoin planning 3 huge increases in 2017 instead of 2 originally @PARAFFIN [2016-12-14 19:12:05] PARAFFIN : :-) [2016-12-14 19:12:28] aethlios : eurozone is collapsing, so wont follow the rate increases against usd, at least next 2 years, so eurusd goes down, china will have to depreciate against the stronget dollar to keep exports in europe and usa. (west customers) [2016-12-14 19:13:16] aethlios : so in anticipation to a yuan depreciation a new rally in btc could start from chinese to export currency abroad before the deprecioation of yuan. [2016-12-14 19:14:46] rapidtrades : maybe but that's longterm [2016-12-14 19:15:01] rapidtrades : bitch will be dovish [2016-12-14 19:15:02] sleger : usdjpy 116.3 [2016-12-14 19:15:09] sleger : btcjpy 100k [2016-12-14 19:15:27] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/mrbSWI8x/ [2016-12-14 19:15:52] aethlios : btc premium in yuan in %, we are at a low band. [2016-12-14 19:18:40] rapidtrades : knee-jerk: a quick reaction that does not allow you time to consider something carefully [2016-12-14 19:22:41] rapidtrades : Fed has been missing its own rate forecasts for years [2016-12-14 19:22:50] rapidtrades : that 1 extra rate hike means little imo [2016-12-14 19:24:52] sleger : it means more than less [2016-12-14 19:25:11] sleger : they would have missed 2, done 1, now they miss 3, maybe do 2 [2016-12-14 19:26:19] rapidtrades : there will be no inflation [2016-12-14 19:28:10] sleger : let me check trump's twitter [2016-12-14 19:28:16] sleger : he hasnt decided yet [2016-12-14 19:28:25] rapidtrades : he's in a meeting :) [2016-12-14 19:30:52] rapidtrades : SHE'S LIVE [2016-12-14 19:31:36] rapidtrades : stocks down [2016-12-14 19:47:23] rapidtrades : Everyone watching the press? got really quiet here [2016-12-14 19:47:55] Rado : rapidtrades: how much did they hike? [2016-12-14 19:47:57] Rado : 0.25? [2016-12-14 19:49:19] sleger : the premium ? [2016-12-14 19:49:27] rapidtrades : Rado: yes [2016-12-14 19:49:56] Rado : this should have been priced in [2016-12-14 19:50:04] Rado : not sure why USDJPY jumped [2016-12-14 19:50:08] Rado : might be a good short here [2016-12-14 19:50:14] sleger : i could tell you why [2016-12-14 19:50:22] sleger : but since you're so sure of your own mistakes [2016-12-14 19:50:23] sleger : go ahead [2016-12-14 19:50:30] Rado : sleger: tell me [2016-12-14 19:50:35] sleger : no [2016-12-14 19:50:37] PARAFFIN : wthf is premium [2016-12-14 19:50:41] Rado : sleger: fine [2016-12-14 19:50:43] Rado : be that way [2016-12-14 19:51:02] sleger : you started it [2016-12-14 19:51:09] Rado : sorry [2016-12-14 19:51:21] Rado : should I bring you flowers? [2016-12-14 19:51:33] sleger : im not gay [2016-12-14 19:51:41] Rado : chocolate? [2016-12-14 19:51:47] CaptainDean : This trollbox is a commandit of Prozac ! Because you worry toooooo much [2016-12-14 19:51:52] sleger : who doesnt love chocolates [2016-12-14 19:51:58] Rado : :-) [2016-12-14 19:52:07] CaptainDean : my friend hate chocolate [2016-12-14 19:52:21] CaptainDean : Yes, i told him it was strange [2016-12-14 19:53:10] sleger : why is he still your friend ? [2016-12-14 19:53:32] Rado : shorted USDJPY 116.263 [2016-12-14 19:53:35] sleger : Rado: hike was expected, but what wasnt is that they announced 3 for next year [2016-12-14 19:53:41] sleger : vs 2 before [2016-12-14 19:53:46] Rado : right [2016-12-14 19:53:59] Rado : market was thinking every meeting there will be a hike next year [2016-12-14 19:54:04] sleger : if it dips to 115.x take your profit [2016-12-14 19:54:11] Rado : of course [2016-12-14 19:54:16] Rado : it's not long term trade [2016-12-14 19:54:37] Rado : stop is at 116.5 [2016-12-14 19:56:13] Rado : sleger: I think FED is full of it and there will be no 3 rate hikes next year [2016-12-14 19:56:33] sleger : probably not, but saying 3 is more than 2 [2016-12-14 19:56:38] Rado : yeah [2016-12-14 19:56:49] sleger : 116.4 [2016-12-14 19:57:06] Rado : yes getting close [2016-12-14 19:57:26] sleger : if you want to be rich [2016-12-14 19:57:29] sleger : just buy btcjpy [2016-12-14 19:57:35] PARAFFIN : sum1 know if we hit 770 today i need to close short [2016-12-14 19:57:45] sleger : "sum1 know" ? [2016-12-14 19:57:58] PARAFFIN : ýes [2016-12-14 19:58:02] sleger : "sum1" ? [2016-12-14 19:58:12] Rado : "some one" I guess [2016-12-14 19:58:14] sleger : we are not your text buddies [2016-12-14 19:58:27] BitMEX_Greg : PARAFFIN: We are trading at $777 right now [2016-12-14 19:58:45] sleger : answer him the right way please @BitMEX_Greg [2016-12-14 19:58:56] sleger : We R trdg at 777 rite no [2016-12-14 19:59:07] Rado : BitMEX_Greg: he is asking if the price will get to $770 so he can close his short [2016-12-14 19:59:07] Rado : :-) [2016-12-14 19:59:16] BitMEX_Greg : ah [2016-12-14 19:59:23] sleger : no i think he is asking if we did hit [2016-12-14 19:59:33] sleger : but since he cant bother typing properly [2016-12-14 19:59:45] sleger : he can carress himself gently [2016-12-14 20:00:12] BitMEX_Greg : PARAFFIN: You can use the chart to see the history of traded prices. You can always use limit orders or take profit orders if you want to close a short around $770 [2016-12-14 20:00:29] Rado : earlier Dec 30 was only $3 premium [2016-12-14 20:00:32] Rado : now back to $6 [2016-12-14 20:00:39] PARAFFIN : BitMEX_Greg: thank you [2016-12-14 20:01:21] BitMEX_Greg : np, let me know if you have any other questions [2016-12-14 20:08:10] PARAFFIN : sleger: n1c3 sl4ng [2016-12-14 20:08:43] sleger : yo ceo [2016-12-14 20:10:32] sleger : Rado: 116.55 [2016-12-14 20:17:57] Rado : sleger: got stopped out [2016-12-14 20:19:46] Rado : pretty bad tare ;-) [2016-12-14 20:19:49] Rado : trade [2016-12-14 20:20:09] Rado : the only good thing about it: it was small size [2016-12-14 20:37:37] sleger : 117.2 [2016-12-14 20:38:10] sleger : too bad the jpy MM here deceased [2016-12-14 20:55:03] rullwull : usd on the heavy drugs, poor gold [2016-12-14 21:00:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 1 @ 0.001298 [2016-12-14 21:03:51] anonymous789 : wow didn't bother checking bitcoin price since like 10 hours ago and we're still at 777 [2016-12-14 21:03:58] anonymous789 : so f-ucking boring [2016-12-14 21:17:20] PARAFFIN : 9anonymous789: yep maybe it will chage soon [2016-12-14 21:31:21] inconspic : zcrash is pretty profitable [2016-12-14 21:38:37] zanza : wow gold got fkked [2016-12-14 21:40:12] zanza : Dollar 14 year high [2016-12-14 21:53:59] y1uy : inconspic: mining? [2016-12-14 22:04:43] anonymous789 : another stupid funding rate [2016-12-14 22:43:06] mjones : eth may be hitting support [2016-12-14 22:44:48] justinlooking : usd? [2016-12-14 22:45:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 80 @ 0.010500 [2016-12-14 22:45:33] thiago : eth down the hilll bitchesss [2016-12-14 22:47:35] Dtrade16 : mjones: what's support? [2016-12-14 22:47:36] Dtrade16 : 8? [2016-12-14 22:47:54] mjones : it's basically at it [2016-12-14 22:48:02] mjones : hmm i dont look at USD just eth/btc [2016-12-14 22:48:54] KingTuna : WHo thinks Bitcorn ready for a $100 dump? [2016-12-14 22:49:03] KingTuna : An early Xmas present [2016-12-14 22:49:37] mjones : i wouldnt be opposed to it. but i dont have a good read on the direction. dont think anyone does [2016-12-14 22:50:26] mjones : bbands on higher time frames are pretty tight so a big move should be incoming [2016-12-14 22:51:16] mjones : 33 hours till the new quarterly. i'm ready to get rekt [2016-12-14 22:56:04] Dtrade16 : nice [2016-12-14 22:56:18] PARAFFIN : Lets watch some Gilemore Girls till it comes [2016-12-14 22:57:08] PARAFFIN : lorely got really fat [2016-12-14 23:05:43] mjones : dont think i've ever watched that [2016-12-14 23:06:25] mjones : thought it was a chick flick tv show [2016-12-14 23:06:36] BTCDJS : KingTuna: not 100. But I think a retrace to 720 would be sufficient [2016-12-14 23:32:09] mjones : etc bull flagging pretty hard. pump incoming [2016-12-14 23:34:05] KingTuna : Does Bitmex offer a 'trailing' stop loss? [2016-12-14 23:34:41] sleger : maybe its the one called 'trailing stop' [2016-12-14 23:34:45] sleger : but i'm just guessing [2016-12-14 23:39:42] mjones : you gotta click on the 3 dots [2016-12-14 23:41:07] mjones : http://i.imgur.com/H4ZMcsE.png [2016-12-14 23:51:01] mjones : lets see if btc pumps to 5470 cny [2016-12-15 00:01:24] anonymous789 : can't believe we're still sitting at 777 [2016-12-15 00:02:36] anonymous789 : lol the daily chart shows a thin line [2016-12-15 00:02:39] anonymous789 : no wicks [2016-12-15 00:02:47] anonymous789 : literally no movement for a whole day [2016-12-15 00:02:51] cariehalls : anyone know how long it takes a deposit to get credited? The blockchain explored says the deposit arrived 20 minutes ago. [2016-12-15 00:03:10] cariehalls : still says pending [2016-12-15 00:05:00] mjones : eth going down a bit more [2016-12-15 00:05:17] mjones : after 1 confirmation it takes a few minutes for it to show up here [2016-12-15 00:05:25] anonymous789 : cheap eth [2016-12-15 00:05:40] PARAFFIN : what are w3e [2016-12-15 00:05:47] mjones : last block was 54 minutes ago. so if you sent it within 54 minutes ago you are still waiting for a confirmation [2016-12-15 00:05:57] mjones : @cariehalls [2016-12-15 00:06:17] cariehalls : ok thanks [2016-12-15 00:07:26] mjones : etc inching up. zzzzz just pump already [2016-12-15 00:13:16] aethlios : eur below 1.05 support [2016-12-15 00:13:32] aethlios : usdcnh 6.95 [2016-12-15 00:32:40] mjones : eur doesnt look good [2016-12-15 00:32:50] mjones : going to break those 2015 lows [2016-12-15 00:35:03] PARAFFIN : will btc/yuan dump again? im waiting for it [2016-12-15 00:35:25] sleger : gilmore chick is back [2016-12-15 00:36:15] sleger : i dont understand people complaining about high transaction fees / full blocks etc... [2016-12-15 00:36:23] sleger : a few of 0.00018 and 1 conf in 5 minutes [2016-12-15 00:36:27] sleger : *fee [2016-12-15 00:41:13] PARAFFIN : sleger: fees are high [2016-12-15 00:41:26] sleger : 0.00018 ? [2016-12-15 00:41:36] PARAFFIN : sleger: yes [2016-12-15 00:41:48] PARAFFIN : sleger: for me its high [2016-12-15 00:42:11] sleger : thats like 12 cents [2016-12-15 00:43:15] sleger : your episode of gilmore girls probably cost 1$, 8x more on amazon [2016-12-15 00:43:15] PARAFFIN : money is money [2016-12-15 00:43:33] PARAFFIN : sleger: i watch Netflix [2016-12-15 00:43:43] sleger : so you paid 10$ per month at least [2016-12-15 00:44:04] sleger : you can make 100 btc transactions instead of watching a girls show [2016-12-15 00:44:10] PARAFFIN : sleger: right however if btc hit 1k the fee would increase too right? [2016-12-15 00:44:55] sleger : then you can use ETC, its much cheaper [2016-12-15 00:52:36] mjones : rip eth [2016-12-15 00:53:03] mjones : lol sleger [2016-12-15 00:53:51] mjones : eth has 1 more low to break. 0.01029 [2016-12-15 00:55:04] TraderStefan : which cny exhcange(s) do the XBC futures use as a reference? [2016-12-15 00:56:41] mjones : damn where is btc going [2016-12-15 00:56:47] PARAFFIN : there we go [2016-12-15 00:57:17] imabeast : eth bounce please so i can short [2016-12-15 00:57:18] BitMEX_Arthur : TraderStefan: BTCC, Huobi, OKC [2016-12-15 00:57:30] PARAFFIN : where is resistance? [2016-12-15 00:57:40] TraderStefan : BitMEX_Arthur: equally weighted? [2016-12-15 00:57:51] imabeast : PARAFFIN: for eth? [2016-12-15 00:57:58] PARAFFIN : imabeast: btc/yuan [2016-12-15 00:58:32] imabeast : PARAFFIN: dunno havent touch btc in a while.. only playing leveraged alts [2016-12-15 00:59:58] imabeast : ETH resistance at .0102 ish.. if it breaks were giong to .096-.098 areaa [2016-12-15 01:00:08] BitMEX_Greg : TraderStefan: Yes equal weighted. [2016-12-15 01:00:31] TraderStefan : BitMEX_Greg: thanks [2016-12-15 01:03:11] mjones : etc is knocking on the door to a new high. pump wall in place. may happen soon. get in that 20x etc long now!! [2016-12-15 01:06:50] mjones : etc sooooo close [2016-12-15 01:07:24] mjones : there we go. etc new 30 day high [2016-12-15 01:13:02] TraderStefan : Maybe it's just my screen but... https://imgur.com/a/qnPKv [2016-12-15 01:13:58] mjones : lol what [2016-12-15 01:14:10] mjones : if anything the zero looks like an eight [2016-12-15 01:14:30] mjones : but your font is wack [2016-12-15 01:15:11] TraderStefan : sorry, use this link http://imgur.com/a/aDxwt [2016-12-15 01:15:26] mjones : etc up 465% on 20x this week [2016-12-15 01:16:23] TraderStefan : I'm on a mac, pretty sure I just have the default font [2016-12-15 01:16:27] imabeast : this spread sucks ass on etc [2016-12-15 01:16:28] imabeast : lol [2016-12-15 01:16:38] imabeast : 1308 to 1329 -_- [2016-12-15 01:18:57] mjones : guessing this is etc top. 20x short [2016-12-15 01:19:06] rms : easy to play the settlement spread though if you want to hold for a day [2016-12-15 01:19:51] imabeast : mjones: not yet [2016-12-15 01:19:53] mjones : damn etc has no top [2016-12-15 01:21:51] j8 : 20x etc and you get liquidated on a 2.5% move.. do you actually do that @mjones [2016-12-15 01:22:12] mjones : i have not done it in a long time [2016-12-15 01:22:20] sleger : the spread itself if > 1% [2016-12-15 01:22:35] mjones : you gotta be lucky to pull it off [2016-12-15 01:22:58] j8 : i guess so lol [2016-12-15 01:22:58] bingbongfly : j8: Im 20x long, from 1255 [2016-12-15 01:23:07] bingbongfly : my liq is 1067 [2016-12-15 01:23:12] bingbongfly : So not too bad [2016-12-15 01:23:24] mjones : if you play it that way you can 20x it [2016-12-15 01:23:36] sleger : so you're not 20x long [2016-12-15 01:23:39] bingbongfly : I touched - 100%, but now up 134% roe [2016-12-15 01:23:40] sleger : bingbongfly: [2016-12-15 01:23:52] bingbongfly : sleger: ? [2016-12-15 01:23:53] sleger : you are on cross [2016-12-15 01:23:56] sleger : dummy [2016-12-15 01:24:04] bingbongfly : sleger: Its still 20x long ? [2016-12-15 01:24:06] sleger : no [2016-12-15 01:24:08] mjones : or they just added btc to their position but 20x long [2016-12-15 01:24:22] bingbongfly : sleger: Could you explain cross? im new to this contracts [2016-12-15 01:24:24] sleger : otherwise before -100% you would have been liquidated dummy [2016-12-15 01:24:36] Rado : bingbongfly: look at the leverage bar [2016-12-15 01:24:45] Rado : it will tell you the effective leverage [2016-12-15 01:24:56] bingbongfly : yeah found it, hm weird I [2016-12-15 01:25:17] imabeast : damn etc! [2016-12-15 01:25:24] PARAFFIN : mjones: nice hint with etc thx [2016-12-15 01:25:25] mjones : couple hundred BTC into ETC and it'll be at 0.0015 [2016-12-15 01:26:14] bingbongfly : Rado: wait, I just clicked the leverage and it changed? damn now im almost liqudated, I need to read up on this weird contract [2016-12-15 01:26:27] bingbongfly : aha assigned margin [2016-12-15 01:26:37] Rado : change it back to cross [2016-12-15 01:26:46] Rado : don't click on it [2016-12-15 01:26:47] Rado : :-) [2016-12-15 01:26:47] bingbongfly : I cant [2016-12-15 01:26:57] sleger : whats your liq price ? [2016-12-15 01:26:58] mjones : etc pump wall moved up [2016-12-15 01:27:08] bingbongfly : insufficiant balance [2016-12-15 01:27:10] bingbongfly : 1066 [2016-12-15 01:27:20] sleger : then youre fine [2016-12-15 01:27:23] BitMEX_Greg : bingbongfly: Cross margin means you use all available funds in your account to prevent liquidation [2016-12-15 01:27:39] bingbongfly : BitMEX_Greg: Alright, thanks for clarifying. [2016-12-15 01:28:01] BitMEX_Greg : bingbongfly: You can read more here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin [2016-12-15 01:30:41] j8 : at the bottom of the Margin panel it says your effective leverage over your full account [2016-12-15 01:32:04] j8 : where's rapidtrades to tell us the PBOC fixing [2016-12-15 01:32:08] bingbongfly : it says 4.20 now lol thanks mate [2016-12-15 01:32:53] j8 : yeah, you probably don't want to be at 20x anyway [2016-12-15 01:33:18] mjones : lets see how many take etc profit [2016-12-15 01:33:21] bingbongfly : j8: Yea true, would have gotten liquidated ages ago [2016-12-15 01:33:38] bingbongfly : mjones: I took a little bit. still have more then 70% of my original position open [2016-12-15 01:34:24] bingbongfly : Ive bought spot etc too, sell target around 0.0018-0.002 [2016-12-15 01:34:27] Rado : PBOC sets USD/CNY central rate at 6.9289 (vs. yesterday at 6.9028) [2016-12-15 01:36:45] j8 : you're becoming him :O [2016-12-15 01:37:23] j8 : next you'll be insulting our mothers [2016-12-15 01:40:28] sleger : lol [2016-12-15 01:41:52] mjones : lets see if pump wall stays up or if it's taken down on polo etc [2016-12-15 01:42:44] Rado : j8: he he [2016-12-15 01:48:01] mjones : etc bullwhale buying up the dip [2016-12-15 01:48:34] mjones : china excited about the future of ETC [2016-12-15 01:52:47] imabeast : RSI on etc close to top [2016-12-15 01:52:53] imabeast : think it may cool down a little [2016-12-15 02:03:49] mjones : or some insane bull or a couple traders could pump it even higher [2016-12-15 02:04:12] mjones : the ones that dont look at charts and just buy because why not [2016-12-15 02:05:11] mjones : 50 btc and we're at 0.0014 [2016-12-15 02:07:07] mjones : or the guy with buy orders takes them down and we're back below 0.0013 [2016-12-15 02:07:35] mjones : open contracts went down about 30,000 so some taking profit [2016-12-15 02:10:31] rms : long eth is probably less risky than short etc [2016-12-15 02:10:45] rms : the 1:10 ratio was strong for a long time and ETH might catch up [2016-12-15 02:16:24] arbitrage001 : good morning [2016-12-15 02:16:33] arbitrage001 : fellow trolls [2016-12-15 02:18:52] mjones : etc whale with 100,000+ etc will dump the price down [2016-12-15 02:19:18] rms : you mean the DAO hacker? [2016-12-15 02:19:30] mjones : indeed [2016-12-15 02:20:12] tb : is it bad if im more than 10% of the open interest on etc? [2016-12-15 02:20:36] mjones : no. that's happened to me before on some coins. and settlement is near [2016-12-15 02:24:47] mjones : i have 6% of open ETC contracts [2016-12-15 02:24:58] mjones : didnt realize so many were closed recently [2016-12-15 02:25:16] mjones : in b4 i get rekt [2016-12-15 02:30:45] tb : you are short? [2016-12-15 02:37:36] jose : tb: it depends on wich side you are ;) [2016-12-15 02:41:43] mjones : i am short [2016-12-15 02:41:53] mjones : guessing this is the top [2016-12-15 02:46:50] tb : i want to get longer [2016-12-15 02:46:55] tb : someone hit my bid [2016-12-15 02:49:01] l3f : BitMEX_Greg: Is it possible to get quarterlies for all of the altcoins? [2016-12-15 02:49:11] BitMEX_Greg : l3f: Unlikely anytime soon [2016-12-15 02:49:14] l3f : 7D is just too much management [2016-12-15 02:49:17] l3f : why [2016-12-15 02:49:21] l3f : no liquidity? [2016-12-15 02:49:47] l3f : BitMEX_Greg: [2016-12-15 02:49:55] BitMEX_Greg : MM don't want to be bag holding for that long [2016-12-15 02:50:05] tb : shouldn't they be hedged? [2016-12-15 02:50:32] BitMEX_Greg : exactly, so there becomes a point where they don't quote one side anymore if they hit their inventory limits for example [2016-12-15 02:50:44] BitMEX_Greg : and it could be possible that you have a one sided market for 3 months [2016-12-15 02:51:06] BitMEX_Greg : Just the borrow markets are not as liquid as bitcoin yet, so it becomes harder for these guys to manage bigger inventories [2016-12-15 02:51:32] tb : but how do they deal with settlement deltas? [2016-12-15 02:51:41] l3f : By MM you mean the people that MM on here? [2016-12-15 02:51:50] BitMEX_Greg : market makers yeah [2016-12-15 02:51:51] tb : instant deltas you get when bitmex settles [2016-12-15 02:52:28] BitMEX_Greg : we have a settlement window, usually 2 hours or 30 mins. I imagine they unwind during that period [2016-12-15 02:55:35] j8 : you can look at it as 1/30th of your position being settled every minute for 30 mins.. it's equivalent to the whole thing settling at the TWAP [2016-12-15 03:38:32] l3f : haha premium is now negative [2016-12-15 03:40:40] l3f : Oh what the fuck [2016-12-15 03:40:51] l3f : Why did XBTUSD and XBTZ16 swap places [2016-12-15 03:40:54] l3f : BitMEX_Greg: [2016-12-15 03:41:14] BitMEX_Greg : l3f: What do you mean? [2016-12-15 03:41:29] l3f : XBTUSD used to be listed before XBTZ16 [2016-12-15 03:41:33] l3f : on the top bar [2016-12-15 03:41:44] j8 : XBTZ16 had higher 24h volume [2016-12-15 03:41:47] BitMEX_Greg : It is based on turnover, XBTZ16 has more turnover [2016-12-15 03:41:56] l3f : oh for reals? [2016-12-15 03:42:08] l3f : lol I shorted the wrong thing based on muscle memory [2016-12-15 03:42:20] l3f : fuck me right [2016-12-15 05:59:21] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: yeah dude don't go around changing places willy nilly [2016-12-15 05:59:28] rapidtrades : not cool [2016-12-15 06:00:52] rapidtrades : z16 only has high volume cos that idiot fomoed then got liquidated [2016-12-15 06:02:01] rapidtrades : if ur determining places based on volume it should be on 30 days or smth more stable...and u should changes places every friday or smth so ppl are prepared [2016-12-15 06:27:24] imabeast : etc going down [2016-12-15 08:13:06] rapidtrades : sup [2016-12-15 08:27:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: buy 24100 @ 784.16 [2016-12-15 08:33:12] l3f : So why is everyone going ape shit on the quaterlies? [2016-12-15 08:33:14] l3f : what has changed? [2016-12-15 08:34:30] rms : just getting back to a more normal spread, it was odd that the spread had collapsed [2016-12-15 08:34:37] rms : expresses general bullish sentiment [2016-12-15 08:34:45] rms : people think new okcoin quarterlies is going to start a pump [2016-12-15 08:35:32] l3f : What time exactly is okcoin quaterlies coming out? [2016-12-15 08:35:35] l3f : rms: [2016-12-15 08:36:13] PARAFFIN : yes when [2016-12-15 08:37:52] BitMEX_Arthur : PARAFFIN: 08:00 UTC [2016-12-15 08:38:02] BitMEX_Arthur : same time as our `XBTH17` and `XBCH17` [2016-12-15 08:39:18] rms : so that means a bit less than 24 hours i guess? [2016-12-15 08:39:32] j8 : usually their new contract launches 10-15 minutes after settlement, so you might get a small headstart here [2016-12-15 08:40:33] rms : http://getjumbucks.com/settlement/ [2016-12-15 08:41:31] BitMEX_Arthur : rms: Correct [2016-12-15 08:41:32] l3f : https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=1440&iso=20161216T08&msg=New%20woodchipper%20and%20BitMEX%20casino%20%26%20resort%20quarterlies