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[2016-12-14 13:08:51] BitMEX_Wally : No, positions are isolated from each other
[2016-12-14 13:09:09] BitMEX_Wally : The liquidation price is determined by the leverage chosen, or if in cross margin then the available balance
[2016-12-14 13:12:36] XBT_Saver : yes but if the unrealised profit from the short is being added to the margin requirement of that position, then the available balance is reduced and therefore affects the long position's liquidation price. Or is that incorrect?
[2016-12-14 13:21:41] XBT_Saver : This is with both positions with cross margin.
[2016-12-14 13:26:03] BitMEX_Wally : The unrealised profit is included in the margin balance, and then taken out via position margin so the available margin stays the same
[2016-12-14 13:35:23] cookielito : are there any options to change the displayed cost basis calculation method?
[2016-12-14 13:35:39] cookielito : it seems to be first in first out
[2016-12-14 13:37:35] BitMEX_Wally : cookielito: It is average cost
[2016-12-14 13:37:57] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: you cannot change the settlement index of a live contract.
[2016-12-14 13:38:19] sleger : JZ16 will settle on quoine, given that there is no disruption going on.
[2016-12-14 13:39:07] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: We will announce when we plan to return to Quoine tomorrow
[2016-12-14 13:39:31] sleger : whatever the announcement says, I am talking about the settlement price of contracts that were traded knowing it would settle on quoine
[2016-12-14 13:39:51] sleger : its like saying gold futures will settle on average of silver and gold price.
[2016-12-14 13:41:08] BitMEX_Wally : Understood
[2016-12-14 13:41:44] sleger : if the prices were in line, i think nobody would really care, but there is a $4 premium on quoine
[2016-12-14 13:41:52] sleger : and on average there is a >0 premium
[2016-12-14 13:57:29] rapidtrades : yuan sharply higher today
[2016-12-14 13:58:41] mjones : btc here we go
[2016-12-14 14:21:05] Surprise : can someone explains to me dynamicProfitEqualisation
[2016-12-14 14:21:24] bingbongfly : mjones: btc isnt mooving? u tricked me :p
[2016-12-14 14:21:58] mjones : it broke down to 5425 CNY but then stopped and went back up
[2016-12-14 14:22:12] BitMEX_Wally : Surprise: Dynamic Profit Equalisation no longer exists, where are you seeing it?
[2016-12-14 14:23:06] Surprise : in one of the forums someone was complaining june 2016
[2016-12-14 14:26:44] BitMEX_Wally : Ahh, we have replaced it with ADL: https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2016-12-14 14:31:46] Surprise : thanks i think i understand it
[2016-12-14 14:33:12] bingbongfly : mjones: ah okey, im not a 1 minute chart guy
[2016-12-14 14:33:19] bingbongfly : but I see it now
[2016-12-14 14:41:02] l3f : XBT used confuse ray. It's super effective.
[2016-12-14 14:41:16] l3f : Traders hurt themselves in their confusion.
[2016-12-14 14:43:07] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: If I had two stops and one of them has "close" on it, if the stop with "close" hits, will it remove the other stop?
[2016-12-14 14:43:25] l3f : as in if my short gets stopped out will it delete my entry order for my long
[2016-12-14 14:46:42] BitMEX_Wally : l3f: Yes, if you have "Close on Trigger" chosen for the order then all other orders are canceled when the stop is triggered
[2016-12-14 14:56:19] mjones : ah bingbongfly. i'm a 1 minute man
[2016-12-14 15:04:14] mjones : wtf xbtz16
[2016-12-14 15:04:29] mjones : no premium now and someone put up a huge wall
[2016-12-14 15:04:51] mjones : $1.70 higher
[2016-12-14 15:09:55] mutato : they are gonna get dumped on lol
[2016-12-14 15:20:50] aethlios : fed in 3 and 1/2 hours.
[2016-12-14 15:22:04] rapidtrades : aethlios: hey coinsbank spreads bit tighter huh? not sure how i feel about that
[2016-12-14 15:22:43] rapidtrades : eur premium down too
[2016-12-14 15:24:50] aethlios : it is not for trading, just sell once or twice the months expenses in a favorable exit price.
[2016-12-14 15:29:43] rapidtrades : makes sense
[2016-12-14 15:30:13] rapidtrades : Dollar still on the back foot pre-FOMCc
[2016-12-14 15:30:44] rapidtrades : aethlios: thoughts on Fed? u got the ECB right :)
[2016-12-14 15:31:04] sleger : there is no doubt on fed result
[2016-12-14 15:31:56] rapidtrades : asking about the market reaction yo @sleger
[2016-12-14 15:32:10] sleger : everything up
[2016-12-14 15:32:16] aethlios : 10 year is up 2.45% now, fed needs to follow the market, the important is the real interest rates.
[2016-12-14 15:33:18] rapidtrades : so what happens to USD and bitcoin?
[2016-12-14 15:33:20] bingbongfly : mjones: good call mate, seems like btc is in fact dropping
[2016-12-14 15:33:34] sleger : nothing happens to bitcoin
[2016-12-14 15:33:42] mjones : hasnt broken the 5401 CNY low yet. so this could just be another trap
[2016-12-14 15:33:49] bingbongfly : mjones: true
[2016-12-14 15:35:11] aethlios : btc either waits for the fed, or for the new 3month contracts to buy in low premium, so they pump then and gain from the premium also.
[2016-12-14 15:35:16] mjones : seems mr. whale is closing out their short and will wait for new quarterly
[2016-12-14 15:35:37] KyllingLolsson : It will drop in a couple of days, but in a couple of weeks, up again
[2016-12-14 15:35:55] rapidtrades : maybe...if it drops 20% first
[2016-12-14 15:38:46] KyllingLolsson : The fundamentals of btc looks bright, i Think 1 btc could cost 7000 dollars in, like 5 years?
[2016-12-14 15:39:01] esuvari : mjones: what short? if he didn't cover during the downspike to 700, that's some stupid whale
[2016-12-14 15:39:36] mjones : the spike to $700 was barely any contracts. i added it up and it was only 60,000 contracts or so between $700 and $750
[2016-12-14 15:39:56] mjones : xbtz16 whale put up their 3rd large wall
[2016-12-14 15:40:25] aethlios : us has low unemployment now, with trump cutting trade deficit with china, making peace with russia and bringing jobs back, repatriate billions from corporate capital abroad with low tax, it will put presure up to inflation and higher wages, this will increase domestic demand. so maybe trump means higher inflation and higher nominal rates.
[2016-12-14 15:41:10] mjones : new low in china for btc
[2016-12-14 15:41:26] esuvari : this might be someone with insider info who knows of an upcoming pump, soon
[2016-12-14 15:41:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50 @ 772.93
[2016-12-14 15:41:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2500 @ 773.32
[2016-12-14 15:41:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20209 @ 773.21
[2016-12-14 15:41:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 40000 @ 772.67
[2016-12-14 15:41:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 774.02
[2016-12-14 15:41:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 13532 @ 772.20
[2016-12-14 15:41:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: sell 20 @ 776.14
[2016-12-14 15:41:28] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2016-12-14 15:41:42] Tetsuo : So long suckers
[2016-12-14 15:41:50] thomaskikansha : DOOM
[2016-12-14 15:42:45] m3s : lol sold 3 mins ago nice
[2016-12-14 15:43:11] Tetsuo : See you in 4 -5 weeks , hopefully 500$ will hold until i'm back
[2016-12-14 15:43:13] Tetsuo : Bye
[2016-12-14 15:43:27] m3s : we will go 680 at the lowest imo
[2016-12-14 15:44:13] KyllingLolsson : Agree with tetsuo
[2016-12-14 15:44:47] mjones : yeah. all the greater fool suckers bought in thinking moon. when we're at the moon right now. see you all back on earth
[2016-12-14 15:46:54] justinlooking : faggots
[2016-12-14 15:47:20] mjones : we are all just a bundle of sticks eh
[2016-12-14 15:47:52] mjones : etc almost at a new high
[2016-12-14 15:48:13] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/WNCCC4rW/
[2016-12-14 15:48:22] aethlios : okcoin 3month on the edge.
[2016-12-14 15:48:49] XBT_Saver : is the chap who put up that large buy order on XBTZ16 in the trollbox?
[2016-12-14 15:49:00] mjones : about 40 hours till the new quarterly starts. exciting times
[2016-12-14 15:49:39] mjones : lol that was about 350,000 contracts sold into around $780
[2016-12-14 15:53:27] l3f : So I go watch some porn and come back
[2016-12-14 15:53:30] l3f : and I've made some cash
[2016-12-14 15:53:31] l3f : nice
[2016-12-14 15:53:40] l3f : living the dream
[2016-12-14 15:53:51] l3f : thanks bitmex
[2016-12-14 15:53:53] mjones : lol xbtz16 whale back
[2016-12-14 15:54:09] PARAFFIN : mjones: whats a whale?
[2016-12-14 15:54:17] l3f : PARAFFIN: big boys
[2016-12-14 15:54:21] mjones : someone who puts up large walls
[2016-12-14 15:54:25] l3f : They rig the game and the market
[2016-12-14 15:54:26] aethlios : where do you see the premium for new quarterlies. will have an extra 15 days duration
[2016-12-14 15:54:34] l3f : aethlios: will go negative for sure
[2016-12-14 15:54:35] aethlios : ???
[2016-12-14 15:54:42] PARAFFIN : thanks
[2016-12-14 15:54:44] mjones : there was 190,000 and now 3 77,000 contract walls put up by the same person i'm guessing
[2016-12-14 15:55:05] aethlios : mjones: bitmex is a sea of whales.
[2016-12-14 15:55:15] l3f : and dolphins
[2016-12-14 15:55:15] l3f : and small fry
[2016-12-14 15:57:33] aethlios : noone expects the fed to raise rates know.
[2016-12-14 15:57:47] l3f : it's already priced in
[2016-12-14 15:58:05] mjones : the dump was it being priced in
[2016-12-14 15:58:11] aethlios : l3f: premium for quarterly around 20 usd is a bargain
[2016-12-14 15:58:45] aethlios : I will bid 20 usd premium here and on okcoin in large amounts.
[2016-12-14 15:59:10] l3f : aethlios: sorry I don't understand are you saying it should be more?
[2016-12-14 15:59:27] l3f : or are you expecting the biggest dump ever
[2016-12-14 15:59:57] aethlios : l3f: it should be around 50.
[2016-12-14 16:00:10] l3f : as 720?
[2016-12-14 16:00:15] l3f : as in*
[2016-12-14 16:00:16] justinlooking : aethlios: wut? z16 ed futures are 99.00... market has 0.5% hike priced in...
[2016-12-14 16:00:17] Rado : aethlios: when it starts moving up it will get there
[2016-12-14 16:00:18] Rado : not now
[2016-12-14 16:00:23] justinlooking : http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/stir/eurodollar.html
[2016-12-14 16:01:05] Rado : I think USD will crash after the FED
[2016-12-14 16:03:57] l3f : Why is okcoin premium so high?
[2016-12-14 16:04:07] mjones : because the index is higher
[2016-12-14 16:04:17] l3f : oh lol ok-coin is censored as woodchipper
[2016-12-14 16:04:24] l3f : had no fucking idea what the woodchipper is
[2016-12-14 16:04:48] mjones : it is only $5 higher on 0kcoin quarterly
[2016-12-14 16:05:03] mjones : about $3 higher here
[2016-12-14 16:05:04] l3f : You mean 10 dollars?
[2016-12-14 16:05:18] mjones : i got okcoin.com open right now and looking at it doing the math
[2016-12-14 16:05:37] mjones : 5405 current price and index is 5370 CNY. 35 CNY = $5
[2016-12-14 16:06:08] thomaskikansha : 40 hours till new quarterlies on okc
[2016-12-14 16:06:17] mjones : $4.34 higher now on 0kcoin quarterly
[2016-12-14 16:06:39] mjones : not much difference between bitmex and 0kcoin. so when the new one starts i bet it'll mirror 0kcoin for the most part
[2016-12-14 16:07:35] AudibleScience : l3f: http://i.imgur.com/t0Pw9AN.png
[2016-12-14 16:07:45] thomaskikansha : bitmex and okc use diff index for settlement?
[2016-12-14 16:08:17] sleger : mjones: but @Rado told you the premium will be much higher here
[2016-12-14 16:08:27] l3f : AudibleScience: ah hence the woodchipper
[2016-12-14 16:08:48] mjones : if @Rado is a whale and will keep the premium higher, then they'll be right
[2016-12-14 16:09:14] PARAFFIN : will it go lower or turn back up? I have short pos
[2016-12-14 16:09:31] justinlooking : PARAFFIN: thy will be rekt
[2016-12-14 16:09:56] PARAFFIN : no i ment if it will go lower today
[2016-12-14 16:09:58] PARAFFIN : lol
[2016-12-14 16:10:46] thomaskikansha : not much downside or it dumps hard
[2016-12-14 16:11:11] AudibleScience : PARAFFIN: short from what entry though?
[2016-12-14 16:11:40] l3f : PARAFFIN: it will go up just enough to liquidate you then go down again
[2016-12-14 16:11:55] l3f : it's the circle of life
[2016-12-14 16:12:02] PARAFFIN : AudibleScience: 772,49
[2016-12-14 16:12:21] l3f : PARAFFIN: you may have shorted the bottom
[2016-12-14 16:12:48] AudibleScience : PARAFFIN: yeah that's what I was about to say...
[2016-12-14 16:12:56] PARAFFIN : l3f: i should get faster i think
[2016-12-14 16:15:26] AudibleScience : PARAFFIN: if you have plenty of margin left you can always short more from the next top
[2016-12-14 16:15:49] l3f : and maybe try the roulette table?
[2016-12-14 16:15:58] l3f : plenty of games in this casino
[2016-12-14 16:16:05] l3f : short eth, it's a crowd favourite
[2016-12-14 16:18:12] AudibleScience : PARAFFIN: but if you're all in at 100x already, mmm hold on to your seat and prepare yourself to get rekt man!
[2016-12-14 16:18:13] PARAFFIN : l3f: i have to less luck i think ^^
[2016-12-14 16:18:45] PARAFFIN : AudibleScience: what why?
[2016-12-14 16:19:26] Velancry : Why is bitcoin staying in the 770!!!! go down please
[2016-12-14 16:20:03] AudibleScience : only if you're at 100x man. You're not though are you? @PARAFFIN
[2016-12-14 16:21:12] PARAFFIN : 5x
[2016-12-14 16:21:26] Rekted : PARAFFIN: buy some balls dude
[2016-12-14 16:22:02] Velancry : go all in 100x $$$
[2016-12-14 16:22:24] Rekted : Velancry: nice advice
[2016-12-14 16:22:26] JamesPolo : 100x for big boi profits
[2016-12-14 16:22:28] PARAFFIN : :-D
[2016-12-14 16:22:36] AudibleScience : PARAFFIN: oh cool, good for you then man, you should be just fine then!
[2016-12-14 16:23:18] JamesPolo : Just short zec you'll make it back
[2016-12-14 16:23:32] l3f : JamesPolo: you'll break rapidtrades' heart
[2016-12-14 16:24:03] Velancry : yes short that shit of a currency, let zec die die die
[2016-12-14 16:24:16] l3f : y'all new kids, rapidtrades is a famous trader who comes here and he has made $$$ profits
[2016-12-14 16:24:26] l3f : sorry $$$$$$$ profits
[2016-12-14 16:24:37] l3f : listen to his advice
[2016-12-14 16:24:53] JamesPolo : l3f: now they will all think its easy
[2016-12-14 16:25:10] l3f : rule 1: don't break rapidtrades' heart
[2016-12-14 16:25:21] l3f : rule 2: ask him about his zec
[2016-12-14 16:25:36] Velancry : l3f: how much profit has he made?
[2016-12-14 16:25:40] l3f : too much
[2016-12-14 16:25:49] Velancry : in 9000%?
[2016-12-14 16:25:51] Rekted : l3f: rule 3 stop suck his balls
[2016-12-14 16:25:56] l3f : oh yes
[2016-12-14 16:26:02] mjones : zec found a bottom. solid long. but wait till friday so you can 5x long zec for mad gainz
[2016-12-14 16:26:36] Velancry : If its solely on bitmex thats pretty impressive but I dont belive it until I see proof.
[2016-12-14 16:26:39] l3f : he is also very famous in china
[2016-12-14 16:27:03] Velancry : zec is a suicide mission
[2016-12-14 16:29:37] mjones : if you got balls. short etc. triple top and dumping now
[2016-12-14 16:30:42] PARAFFIN : xmr
[2016-12-14 16:44:44] rapidtrades : stop buying dumb whale
[2016-12-14 16:44:46] aethlios : zec buy 0.04 for a rally pump to 0.007
[2016-12-14 16:44:53] aethlios : 0.07
[2016-12-14 16:47:03] mjones : z16 almost back to predump level. someone excited
[2016-12-14 16:48:14] l3f : rapidtrades: they can't dump without some coins can they
[2016-12-14 17:04:38] sleger : rapidtrades: how is your new apartment ? Did you get a couch ?
[2016-12-14 17:10:36] rapidtrades : sleger: yes but it's hard
[2016-12-14 17:10:56] sleger : it's good for your bum
[2016-12-14 17:14:46] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/258PAICB/
[2016-12-14 17:15:23] aethlios : okcoin quarterly. consolidation almost over, 2 senarios.
[2016-12-14 17:15:43] rapidtrades : red ftw
[2016-12-14 17:16:01] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/0jj9SPRs/
[2016-12-14 17:16:01] rapidtrades : love how there's no scenario under which bitcoin goes down
[2016-12-14 17:16:25] sleger : it just cant
[2016-12-14 17:16:27] sleger : it tried
[2016-12-14 17:16:35] aethlios : rapidtrades: down senario is shortterm, bull trend contineus
[2016-12-14 17:16:54] rapidtrades : dont forget that ppl were this bullish at the start of 2014 too
[2016-12-14 17:17:29] rapidtrades : 10,000 BTC was the mean forecast
[2016-12-14 17:19:18] aethlios : early 2014 we already had 1000% pump in 2 months, it is like we go to 10,000 until March and still be bullish. We are still 35% off ATH, like being 75 usd mid 2013.
[2016-12-14 17:19:52] rapidtrades : and now we had a 628% pump from the 150 lows
[2016-12-14 17:19:57] rapidtrades : not very different
[2016-12-14 17:20:34] rapidtrades : ppl are bullish because we keep going up
[2016-12-14 17:21:01] rapidtrades : it's only the duration of the pump that's different
[2016-12-14 17:21:59] rapidtrades : usd/cnh back below 6.90
[2016-12-14 17:24:35] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/us-regulators-discuss-difficulties-of-smart-contract-oversight/
[2016-12-14 17:24:44] rapidtrades : ^ not good for ether
[2016-12-14 17:26:40] sleger : vitalik has it under control
[2016-12-14 17:27:49] rapidtrades : Zuko > Vitalik
[2016-12-14 17:28:15] rapidtrades : 2017 is Zeko's year, he will lead us back to Greatness
[2016-12-14 17:36:54] sleger : vitalik > infinity > anything else
[2016-12-14 17:40:53] sleger : > Rado > macios15 > jung1 < -infinity
[2016-12-14 17:42:20] mjones : Xmr going up
[2016-12-14 17:58:26] BTCDJS : Come on bitcoin. Fall. its ok. I will catch you. And hope somebody much stronger than me is going to catch you too, cos I don't want to get squashed
[2016-12-14 18:02:22] PARAFFIN : BTCDJS: LOL
[2016-12-14 18:05:21] sleger : which one is the oracle guy again ?
[2016-12-14 18:05:39] sleger : why the hell does java install want to change my browser settings to use yahoo ??? wth ?
[2016-12-14 18:06:24] rapidtrades : yep
[2016-12-14 18:06:43] sleger : i want him to apologize and quit his job
[2016-12-14 18:07:02] rapidtrades : just say no
[2016-12-14 18:07:24] rapidtrades : are u offended that they asked? lol
[2016-12-14 18:07:48] sleger : they dont ask, its pre selected by default, if you dont pay attention and click next it will change it
[2016-12-14 18:07:53] sleger : that should be illegal
[2016-12-14 18:07:58] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-12-14 18:08:22] rapidtrades : glad that's high on ur priorities
[2016-12-14 18:09:03] sleger : high there with btcjpy
[2016-12-14 18:27:35] mjones : Sleger cause Java Sold itself to the highest bidder
[2016-12-14 18:34:06] imabeast : xmrdoe
[2016-12-14 18:36:38] mjones : Xmr the second best coin
[2016-12-14 18:42:58] mjones : xmr whale always has a few hundred BTC to throw up in support
[2016-12-14 18:44:56] PARAFFIN : buy xmr now?
[2016-12-14 18:48:42] rapidtrades : 11 minutes...no doubt some tool will knee-jerk on this decision
[2016-12-14 18:49:50] imabeast : PARAFFIN: if bitcoin drops/ more sideways expect xmr to move
[2016-12-14 18:50:16] imabeast : short term target it .0114
[2016-12-14 19:00:13] aethlios : rase rates
[2016-12-14 19:00:36] sleger : raze
[2016-12-14 19:01:02] aethlios : 3 increses every year fed says
[2016-12-14 19:01:17] aethlios : buy btc yuan above 7 soon
[2016-12-14 19:01:23] sleger : buy yellow bitcoinz
[2016-12-14 19:01:47] aethlios : 10-0 votes for increase
[2016-12-14 19:02:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCZ16`: buy 1000 @ 5464.4
[2016-12-14 19:02:48] rapidtrades : Fed projects 1 extra rate rise next year
[2016-12-14 19:02:59] rapidtrades : there's that idiot fomo
[2016-12-14 19:03:54] mjones : btc pumping
[2016-12-14 19:05:15] mjones : up $13 after that fake out dump
[2016-12-14 19:05:52] rapidtrades : 'fake'
[2016-12-14 19:06:40] mjones : well wasnt fake. it got PARAFFIN to short
[2016-12-14 19:07:19] aethlios : xbtz16 whale knew.
[2016-12-14 19:08:11] rapidtrades : he knew nothing, it's just an idiot fomo
[2016-12-14 19:08:12] sleger : buy z16 at 780, sell swap at 779.5, winwin
[2016-12-14 19:08:31] rapidtrades : plz keep ur stupid opinions to urself
[2016-12-14 19:08:50] sleger : XBTZ16 10000 2000 0 780.02 and many more
[2016-12-14 19:09:10] sleger : and now XBTUSD 4000 -935 0 779.75
[2016-12-14 19:09:13] rapidtrades : we're going into discount soon
[2016-12-14 19:09:14] aethlios : eurusd support 1.05 wont hold this time. 0.84 next.
[2016-12-14 19:09:45] rapidtrades : Euro isn't going anywhere today
[2016-12-14 19:10:04] rapidtrades : Euro isn't going anywhere today unless Yellen shits on the press
[2016-12-14 19:10:19] aethlios : btc reacting to fed decisions, that's something important for btc as an asset.
[2016-12-14 19:10:19] mjones : i'm expecting china to pump btc like crazy.
[2016-12-14 19:10:28] Gekko : another reason to sell CNY
[2016-12-14 19:10:32] mjones : cant wait for that new quarterly to open. long the shit out of it and wait 3 months
[2016-12-14 19:11:02] rapidtrades : aethlios: it's idiots knee-jerking
[2016-12-14 19:11:05] PARAFFIN : omg whats happening
[2016-12-14 19:11:14] rapidtrades : nothing
[2016-12-14 19:11:27] justinlooking : thy will be rekt
[2016-12-14 19:11:49] sleger : bitcoin planning 3 huge increases in 2017 instead of 2 originally @PARAFFIN
[2016-12-14 19:12:05] PARAFFIN : :-)
[2016-12-14 19:12:28] aethlios : eurozone is collapsing, so wont follow the rate increases against usd, at least next 2 years, so eurusd goes down, china will have to depreciate against the stronget dollar to keep exports in europe and usa. (west customers)
[2016-12-14 19:13:16] aethlios : so in anticipation to a yuan depreciation a new rally in btc could start from chinese to export currency abroad before the deprecioation of yuan.
[2016-12-14 19:14:46] rapidtrades : maybe but that's longterm
[2016-12-14 19:15:01] rapidtrades : bitch will be dovish
[2016-12-14 19:15:02] sleger : usdjpy 116.3
[2016-12-14 19:15:09] sleger : btcjpy 100k
[2016-12-14 19:15:27] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/mrbSWI8x/
[2016-12-14 19:15:52] aethlios : btc premium in yuan in %, we are at a low band.
[2016-12-14 19:18:40] rapidtrades : knee-jerk: a quick reaction that does not allow you time to consider something carefully
[2016-12-14 19:22:41] rapidtrades : Fed has been missing its own rate forecasts for years
[2016-12-14 19:22:50] rapidtrades : that 1 extra rate hike means little imo
[2016-12-14 19:24:52] sleger : it means more than less
[2016-12-14 19:25:11] sleger : they would have missed 2, done 1, now they miss 3, maybe do 2
[2016-12-14 19:26:19] rapidtrades : there will be no inflation
[2016-12-14 19:28:10] sleger : let me check trump's twitter
[2016-12-14 19:28:16] sleger : he hasnt decided yet
[2016-12-14 19:28:25] rapidtrades : he's in a meeting :)
[2016-12-14 19:30:52] rapidtrades : SHE'S LIVE
[2016-12-14 19:31:36] rapidtrades : stocks down
[2016-12-14 19:47:23] rapidtrades : Everyone watching the press? got really quiet here
[2016-12-14 19:47:55] Rado : rapidtrades: how much did they hike?
[2016-12-14 19:47:57] Rado : 0.25?
[2016-12-14 19:49:19] sleger : the premium ?
[2016-12-14 19:49:27] rapidtrades : Rado: yes
[2016-12-14 19:49:56] Rado : this should have been priced in
[2016-12-14 19:50:04] Rado : not sure why USDJPY jumped
[2016-12-14 19:50:08] Rado : might be a good short here
[2016-12-14 19:50:14] sleger : i could tell you why
[2016-12-14 19:50:22] sleger : but since you're so sure of your own mistakes
[2016-12-14 19:50:23] sleger : go ahead
[2016-12-14 19:50:30] Rado : sleger: tell me
[2016-12-14 19:50:35] sleger : no
[2016-12-14 19:50:37] PARAFFIN : wthf is premium
[2016-12-14 19:50:41] Rado : sleger: fine
[2016-12-14 19:50:43] Rado : be that way
[2016-12-14 19:51:02] sleger : you started it
[2016-12-14 19:51:09] Rado : sorry
[2016-12-14 19:51:21] Rado : should I bring you flowers?
[2016-12-14 19:51:33] sleger : im not gay
[2016-12-14 19:51:41] Rado : chocolate?
[2016-12-14 19:51:47] CaptainDean : This trollbox is a commandit of Prozac ! Because you worry toooooo much
[2016-12-14 19:51:52] sleger : who doesnt love chocolates
[2016-12-14 19:51:58] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-14 19:52:07] CaptainDean : my friend hate chocolate
[2016-12-14 19:52:21] CaptainDean : Yes, i told him it was strange
[2016-12-14 19:53:10] sleger : why is he still your friend ?
[2016-12-14 19:53:32] Rado : shorted USDJPY 116.263
[2016-12-14 19:53:35] sleger : Rado: hike was expected, but what wasnt is that they announced 3 for next year
[2016-12-14 19:53:41] sleger : vs 2 before
[2016-12-14 19:53:46] Rado : right
[2016-12-14 19:53:59] Rado : market was thinking every meeting there will be a hike next year
[2016-12-14 19:54:04] sleger : if it dips to 115.x take your profit
[2016-12-14 19:54:11] Rado : of course
[2016-12-14 19:54:16] Rado : it's not long term trade
[2016-12-14 19:54:37] Rado : stop is at 116.5
[2016-12-14 19:56:13] Rado : sleger: I think FED is full of it and there will be no 3 rate hikes next year
[2016-12-14 19:56:33] sleger : probably not, but saying 3 is more than 2
[2016-12-14 19:56:38] Rado : yeah
[2016-12-14 19:56:49] sleger : 116.4
[2016-12-14 19:57:06] Rado : yes getting close
[2016-12-14 19:57:26] sleger : if you want to be rich
[2016-12-14 19:57:29] sleger : just buy btcjpy
[2016-12-14 19:57:35] PARAFFIN : sum1 know if we hit 770 today i need to close short
[2016-12-14 19:57:45] sleger : "sum1 know" ?
[2016-12-14 19:57:58] PARAFFIN : ýes
[2016-12-14 19:58:02] sleger : "sum1" ?
[2016-12-14 19:58:12] Rado : "some one" I guess
[2016-12-14 19:58:14] sleger : we are not your text buddies
[2016-12-14 19:58:27] BitMEX_Greg : PARAFFIN: We are trading at $777 right now
[2016-12-14 19:58:45] sleger : answer him the right way please @BitMEX_Greg
[2016-12-14 19:58:56] sleger : We R trdg at 777 rite no
[2016-12-14 19:59:07] Rado : BitMEX_Greg: he is asking if the price will get to $770 so he can close his short
[2016-12-14 19:59:07] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-14 19:59:16] BitMEX_Greg : ah
[2016-12-14 19:59:23] sleger : no i think he is asking if we did hit
[2016-12-14 19:59:33] sleger : but since he cant bother typing properly
[2016-12-14 19:59:45] sleger : he can carress himself gently
[2016-12-14 20:00:12] BitMEX_Greg : PARAFFIN: You can use the chart to see the history of traded prices. You can always use limit orders or take profit orders if you want to close a short around $770
[2016-12-14 20:00:29] Rado : earlier Dec 30 was only $3 premium
[2016-12-14 20:00:32] Rado : now back to $6
[2016-12-14 20:00:39] PARAFFIN : BitMEX_Greg: thank you
[2016-12-14 20:01:21] BitMEX_Greg : np, let me know if you have any other questions
[2016-12-14 20:08:10] PARAFFIN : sleger: n1c3 sl4ng
[2016-12-14 20:08:43] sleger : yo ceo
[2016-12-14 20:10:32] sleger : Rado: 116.55
[2016-12-14 20:17:57] Rado : sleger: got stopped out
[2016-12-14 20:19:46] Rado : pretty bad tare ;-)
[2016-12-14 20:19:49] Rado : trade
[2016-12-14 20:20:09] Rado : the only good thing about it: it was small size
[2016-12-14 20:37:37] sleger : 117.2
[2016-12-14 20:38:10] sleger : too bad the jpy MM here deceased
[2016-12-14 20:55:03] rullwull : usd on the heavy drugs, poor gold
[2016-12-14 21:00:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 1 @ 0.001298
[2016-12-14 21:03:51] anonymous789 : wow didn't bother checking bitcoin price since like 10 hours ago and we're still at 777
[2016-12-14 21:03:58] anonymous789 : so f-ucking boring
[2016-12-14 21:17:20] PARAFFIN : 9anonymous789: yep maybe it will chage soon
[2016-12-14 21:31:21] inconspic : zcrash is pretty profitable
[2016-12-14 21:38:37] zanza : wow gold got fkked
[2016-12-14 21:40:12] zanza : Dollar 14 year high
[2016-12-14 21:53:59] y1uy : inconspic: mining?
[2016-12-14 22:04:43] anonymous789 : another stupid funding rate
[2016-12-14 22:43:06] mjones : eth may be hitting support
[2016-12-14 22:44:48] justinlooking : usd?
[2016-12-14 22:45:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 80 @ 0.010500
[2016-12-14 22:45:33] thiago : eth down the hilll bitchesss
[2016-12-14 22:47:35] Dtrade16 : mjones: what's support?
[2016-12-14 22:47:36] Dtrade16 : 8?
[2016-12-14 22:47:54] mjones : it's basically at it
[2016-12-14 22:48:02] mjones : hmm i dont look at USD just eth/btc
[2016-12-14 22:48:54] KingTuna : WHo thinks Bitcorn ready for a $100 dump?
[2016-12-14 22:49:03] KingTuna : An early Xmas present
[2016-12-14 22:49:37] mjones : i wouldnt be opposed to it. but i dont have a good read on the direction. dont think anyone does
[2016-12-14 22:50:26] mjones : bbands on higher time frames are pretty tight so a big move should be incoming
[2016-12-14 22:51:16] mjones : 33 hours till the new quarterly. i'm ready to get rekt
[2016-12-14 22:56:04] Dtrade16 : nice
[2016-12-14 22:56:18] PARAFFIN : Lets watch some Gilemore Girls till it comes
[2016-12-14 22:57:08] PARAFFIN : lorely got really fat
[2016-12-14 23:05:43] mjones : dont think i've ever watched that
[2016-12-14 23:06:25] mjones : thought it was a chick flick tv show
[2016-12-14 23:06:36] BTCDJS : KingTuna: not 100. But I think a retrace to 720 would be sufficient
[2016-12-14 23:32:09] mjones : etc bull flagging pretty hard. pump incoming
[2016-12-14 23:34:05] KingTuna : Does Bitmex offer a 'trailing' stop loss?
[2016-12-14 23:34:41] sleger : maybe its the one called 'trailing stop'
[2016-12-14 23:34:45] sleger : but i'm just guessing
[2016-12-14 23:39:42] mjones : you gotta click on the 3 dots
[2016-12-14 23:41:07] mjones : http://i.imgur.com/H4ZMcsE.png
[2016-12-14 23:51:01] mjones : lets see if btc pumps to 5470 cny
[2016-12-15 00:01:24] anonymous789 : can't believe we're still sitting at 777
[2016-12-15 00:02:36] anonymous789 : lol the daily chart shows a thin line
[2016-12-15 00:02:39] anonymous789 : no wicks
[2016-12-15 00:02:47] anonymous789 : literally no movement for a whole day
[2016-12-15 00:02:51] cariehalls : anyone know how long it takes a deposit to get credited? The blockchain explored says the deposit arrived 20 minutes ago.
[2016-12-15 00:03:10] cariehalls : still says pending
[2016-12-15 00:05:00] mjones : eth going down a bit more
[2016-12-15 00:05:17] mjones : after 1 confirmation it takes a few minutes for it to show up here
[2016-12-15 00:05:25] anonymous789 : cheap eth
[2016-12-15 00:05:40] PARAFFIN : what are w3e
[2016-12-15 00:05:47] mjones : last block was 54 minutes ago. so if you sent it within 54 minutes ago you are still waiting for a confirmation
[2016-12-15 00:05:57] mjones : @cariehalls
[2016-12-15 00:06:17] cariehalls : ok thanks
[2016-12-15 00:07:26] mjones : etc inching up. zzzzz just pump already
[2016-12-15 00:13:16] aethlios : eur below 1.05 support
[2016-12-15 00:13:32] aethlios : usdcnh 6.95
[2016-12-15 00:32:40] mjones : eur doesnt look good
[2016-12-15 00:32:50] mjones : going to break those 2015 lows
[2016-12-15 00:35:03] PARAFFIN : will btc/yuan dump again? im waiting for it
[2016-12-15 00:35:25] sleger : gilmore chick is back
[2016-12-15 00:36:15] sleger : i dont understand people complaining about high transaction fees / full blocks etc...
[2016-12-15 00:36:23] sleger : a few of 0.00018 and 1 conf in 5 minutes
[2016-12-15 00:36:27] sleger : *fee
[2016-12-15 00:41:13] PARAFFIN : sleger: fees are high
[2016-12-15 00:41:26] sleger : 0.00018 ?
[2016-12-15 00:41:36] PARAFFIN : sleger: yes
[2016-12-15 00:41:48] PARAFFIN : sleger: for me its high
[2016-12-15 00:42:11] sleger : thats like 12 cents
[2016-12-15 00:43:15] sleger : your episode of gilmore girls probably cost 1$, 8x more on amazon
[2016-12-15 00:43:15] PARAFFIN : money is money
[2016-12-15 00:43:33] PARAFFIN : sleger: i watch Netflix
[2016-12-15 00:43:43] sleger : so you paid 10$ per month at least
[2016-12-15 00:44:04] sleger : you can make 100 btc transactions instead of watching a girls show
[2016-12-15 00:44:10] PARAFFIN : sleger: right however if btc hit 1k the fee would increase too right?
[2016-12-15 00:44:55] sleger : then you can use ETC, its much cheaper
[2016-12-15 00:52:36] mjones : rip eth
[2016-12-15 00:53:03] mjones : lol sleger
[2016-12-15 00:53:51] mjones : eth has 1 more low to break. 0.01029
[2016-12-15 00:55:04] TraderStefan : which cny exhcange(s) do the XBC futures use as a reference?
[2016-12-15 00:56:41] mjones : damn where is btc going
[2016-12-15 00:56:47] PARAFFIN : there we go
[2016-12-15 00:57:17] imabeast : eth bounce please so i can short
[2016-12-15 00:57:18] BitMEX_Arthur : TraderStefan: BTCC, Huobi, OKC
[2016-12-15 00:57:30] PARAFFIN : where is resistance?
[2016-12-15 00:57:40] TraderStefan : BitMEX_Arthur: equally weighted?
[2016-12-15 00:57:51] imabeast : PARAFFIN: for eth?
[2016-12-15 00:57:58] PARAFFIN : imabeast: btc/yuan
[2016-12-15 00:58:32] imabeast : PARAFFIN: dunno havent touch btc in a while.. only playing leveraged alts
[2016-12-15 00:59:58] imabeast : ETH resistance at .0102 ish.. if it breaks were giong to .096-.098 areaa
[2016-12-15 01:00:08] BitMEX_Greg : TraderStefan: Yes equal weighted.
[2016-12-15 01:00:31] TraderStefan : BitMEX_Greg: thanks
[2016-12-15 01:03:11] mjones : etc is knocking on the door to a new high. pump wall in place. may happen soon. get in that 20x etc long now!!
[2016-12-15 01:06:50] mjones : etc sooooo close
[2016-12-15 01:07:24] mjones : there we go. etc new 30 day high
[2016-12-15 01:13:02] TraderStefan : Maybe it's just my screen but... https://imgur.com/a/qnPKv
[2016-12-15 01:13:58] mjones : lol what
[2016-12-15 01:14:10] mjones : if anything the zero looks like an eight
[2016-12-15 01:14:30] mjones : but your font is wack
[2016-12-15 01:15:11] TraderStefan : sorry, use this link http://imgur.com/a/aDxwt
[2016-12-15 01:15:26] mjones : etc up 465% on 20x this week
[2016-12-15 01:16:23] TraderStefan : I'm on a mac, pretty sure I just have the default font
[2016-12-15 01:16:27] imabeast : this spread sucks ass on etc
[2016-12-15 01:16:28] imabeast : lol
[2016-12-15 01:16:38] imabeast : 1308 to 1329 -_-
[2016-12-15 01:18:57] mjones : guessing this is etc top. 20x short
[2016-12-15 01:19:06] rms : easy to play the settlement spread though if you want to hold for a day
[2016-12-15 01:19:51] imabeast : mjones: not yet
[2016-12-15 01:19:53] mjones : damn etc has no top
[2016-12-15 01:21:51] j8 : 20x etc and you get liquidated on a 2.5% move.. do you actually do that @mjones
[2016-12-15 01:22:12] mjones : i have not done it in a long time
[2016-12-15 01:22:20] sleger : the spread itself if > 1%
[2016-12-15 01:22:35] mjones : you gotta be lucky to pull it off
[2016-12-15 01:22:58] j8 : i guess so lol
[2016-12-15 01:22:58] bingbongfly : j8: Im 20x long, from 1255
[2016-12-15 01:23:07] bingbongfly : my liq is 1067
[2016-12-15 01:23:12] bingbongfly : So not too bad
[2016-12-15 01:23:24] mjones : if you play it that way you can 20x it
[2016-12-15 01:23:36] sleger : so you're not 20x long
[2016-12-15 01:23:39] bingbongfly : I touched - 100%, but now up 134% roe
[2016-12-15 01:23:40] sleger : bingbongfly:
[2016-12-15 01:23:52] bingbongfly : sleger: ?
[2016-12-15 01:23:53] sleger : you are on cross
[2016-12-15 01:23:56] sleger : dummy
[2016-12-15 01:24:04] bingbongfly : sleger: Its still 20x long ?
[2016-12-15 01:24:06] sleger : no
[2016-12-15 01:24:08] mjones : or they just added btc to their position but 20x long
[2016-12-15 01:24:22] bingbongfly : sleger: Could you explain cross? im new to this contracts
[2016-12-15 01:24:24] sleger : otherwise before -100% you would have been liquidated dummy
[2016-12-15 01:24:36] Rado : bingbongfly: look at the leverage bar
[2016-12-15 01:24:45] Rado : it will tell you the effective leverage
[2016-12-15 01:24:56] bingbongfly : yeah found it, hm weird I
[2016-12-15 01:25:17] imabeast : damn etc!
[2016-12-15 01:25:24] PARAFFIN : mjones: nice hint with etc thx
[2016-12-15 01:25:25] mjones : couple hundred BTC into ETC and it'll be at 0.0015
[2016-12-15 01:26:14] bingbongfly : Rado: wait, I just clicked the leverage and it changed? damn now im almost liqudated, I need to read up on this weird contract
[2016-12-15 01:26:27] bingbongfly : aha assigned margin
[2016-12-15 01:26:37] Rado : change it back to cross
[2016-12-15 01:26:46] Rado : don't click on it
[2016-12-15 01:26:47] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-15 01:26:47] bingbongfly : I cant
[2016-12-15 01:26:57] sleger : whats your liq price ?