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[2016-12-13 04:59:13] Newmex : imo
[2016-12-13 04:59:45] l3f : yeah but it doesn't settle till 31th
[2016-12-13 04:59:48] l3f : plenty of time for the p&d
[2016-12-13 05:10:32] rms : i liquidated 20k in a market stop at 740 that was filled at 716
[2016-12-13 05:11:46] rms : and another 20k at 738 that was filled at 712
[2016-12-13 05:11:55] rms : and i had stops going lower than that that weren't triggered
[2016-12-13 05:12:43] rms : i guess it got messed up enough to trigger my stops from massive liquidations...
[2016-12-13 05:17:03] j8 : liquidations brought it to 765 or so, the rest was stops / bots with nothing on the orderbook
[2016-12-13 05:18:47] javierstone : whoa thats crazy
[2016-12-13 05:22:11] tb : my bids were filled at 712/716
[2016-12-13 05:22:34] tb : on z16
[2016-12-13 05:26:36] aethlios : http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/
[2016-12-13 05:26:54] aethlios : bitmex 1st in usd with fees exchange
[2016-12-13 05:27:30] arbitrage001 : aethlios: to be expected
[2016-12-13 05:27:48] arbitrage001 : good platform + less fee == more volume
[2016-12-13 05:27:57] j8 : shouldn't be on the list with spot exchanges
[2016-12-13 05:27:59] arbitrage001 : nice api to support mm
[2016-12-13 05:28:33] arbitrage001 : j8: spot exchange will eventually have less volume due to their high fee
[2016-12-13 05:28:42] aethlios : I hope bitmex in 1 year be the major futures exchange and not the scummy fake volume Chinese.
[2016-12-13 05:29:08] j8 : ok but bitmex isn't #1 volume in derivatives
[2016-12-13 05:29:22] arbitrage001 : j8: which is? okc?
[2016-12-13 05:29:31] j8 : yeah by a factor of 50 or so
[2016-12-13 05:29:43] arbitrage001 : j8: wont take the volume too serious
[2016-12-13 05:30:14] arbitrage001 : could be house trade, employee trading on each other
[2016-12-13 05:30:24] arbitrage001 : zana mentioned it before
[2016-12-13 05:30:25] j8 : sure, same standard applies here
[2016-12-13 05:30:46] aethlios : 70,000 btc traded at okcoin quarterly in 10 minutes dump. fake as hell, I watch live the trades, bid ask stable and trades pass as filled in a middle price.
[2016-12-13 05:31:00] j8 : in reality i don't think the liquidity is fifty times, but more like 5 or 10 based on trading both
[2016-12-13 05:31:32] arbitrage001 : size here tend to be a lot larger also
[2016-12-13 05:31:39] arbitrage001 : see the 50k bid at 776.93
[2016-12-13 05:32:05] arbitrage001 : and volume is counted here by contract?
[2016-12-13 05:32:09] arbitrage001 : or btc?
[2016-12-13 05:32:49] j8 : both
[2016-12-13 05:33:41] j8 : on okc you sometimes have single liquidations of 40k contracts, which is 4 million here, more than open interest
[2016-12-13 05:33:58] arbitrage001 : i see
[2016-12-13 05:34:09] arbitrage001 : a lot of big whale trade on okc
[2016-12-13 05:34:12] arbitrage001 : then
[2016-12-13 05:34:31] aethlios : Bitmex think of launching a 12 month contract 100x xbtusd inverse like the 3month (not quanto). We can trade the spread with swap and 3M. will create a nice 1 year curve. also will be much more volatile and attract speculators. also noone else has that product.
[2016-12-13 05:34:58] arbitrage001 : aethlios: make a request
[2016-12-13 05:35:12] l3f : aethlios: what is 3M?
[2016-12-13 05:35:13] arbitrage001 : i am sure they didnt know the 3 month contracts has this much volume
[2016-12-13 05:35:37] l3f : oh 3 month
[2016-12-13 05:35:39] l3f : lel
[2016-12-13 05:35:46] arbitrage001 : ideally, should have 3,6,9,12 months
[2016-12-13 05:36:01] aethlios : swap, 3month and 12month are excellent and not antagonistic each other. also because not a quanto MM's will like it.
[2016-12-13 05:36:59] l3f : the problem is that it'll just spread their volume over 3 contracts
[2016-12-13 05:37:07] l3f : and their volume isn't that large as is
[2016-12-13 05:37:45] l3f : I can see it once they are the dominant exchange
[2016-12-13 05:37:48] aethlios : I mean better kill the yean series and have usd and yuan only with swap 3month, 6month and 12month. or swap 3month and 12 month.
[2016-12-13 05:38:23] aethlios : better kill the yen series
[2016-12-13 05:38:45] l3f : Yen 7D is already getting the axe
[2016-12-13 05:41:21] aethlios : if you have a longer curve up to 12months, more strategies enabled and will attract traders from okcoin I believe.
[2016-12-13 05:42:08] aethlios : we can trade the slope of the curve between maturities, but inverse xbtusd (NO quanto shit)
[2016-12-13 05:42:33] l3f : aethlios: you mean botfest glore
[2016-12-13 05:45:09] rapidtrades : +1 for longer futures but don't kill the yen :)
[2016-12-13 05:46:50] j8 : should maybe kill quoine at least
[2016-12-13 05:47:24] aethlios : ok could try add a 12month for usd and yuan and if it trades fine in 3 months add a 6month also. so have swap 3month 6month and 12month.
[2016-12-13 05:56:28] j8 : quoine: "Trading has been halted due to price issues."
[2016-12-13 05:57:52] j8 : market disruption event? change to bitflyer? @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-12-13 05:59:18] arbitrage001 : j8: lol. you must be shorting a lot at high premium
[2016-12-13 05:59:39] j8 : only got a little in
[2016-12-13 06:00:24] j8 : "Spot and margin orders, as well as deposit/withdrawal service for fiat and crypto currency will be unavailable until further notice. Trades created after 2016-12-13 03:40:00 UTC will be reverted."
[2016-12-13 06:01:24] arbitrage001 : expect the exchange to go under?
[2016-12-13 06:01:32] arbitrage001 : with irregularity
[2016-12-13 06:01:58] j8 : i dunno, their trading engine is crap, this happened not too long ago also
[2016-12-13 06:02:47] j8 : glad i never put funds there though
[2016-12-13 06:03:29] j8 : deposit and withdrawal unavailable until further notice.. that sure doesn't sound good
[2016-12-13 06:03:29] arbitrage001 : slegar mentioned worst case is he will withdraw via fiat
[2016-12-13 06:03:53] arbitrage001 : guess that door has closed
[2016-12-13 06:07:16] rullwull : i heard complains from some big customers that quoni cheats with the fees
[2016-12-13 06:08:17] j8 : so basically the house MM bot went haywire and bought instead of sold, and they rolled back 1000 btc worth of trades
[2016-12-13 06:08:48] pulsar-testing : did anyone lose on quoine too due to the revert?
[2016-12-13 06:10:24] j8 : well, everyone would have what they had before, although someone that hedged those trades that got reverted might have lost
[2016-12-13 06:10:48] arbitrage001 : i would be pissed if i do arbitrage there
[2016-12-13 06:11:20] pulsar-testing : arbitrage001: where do you arb?
[2016-12-13 06:11:28] j8 : that's why you do it here, bitmex doesn't roll back shit
[2016-12-13 06:12:12] pulsar-testing : j8: bitmex's system is almost the best i have ever seen in bitcoin industry
[2016-12-13 06:12:29] j8 : what's the best
[2016-12-13 06:12:31] arbitrage001 : i would be pissed also my stop loss trigger at 710 earlier
[2016-12-13 06:12:41] arbitrage001 : if
[2016-12-13 06:12:59] j8 : arbitrage001: it was on mark price i guess?
[2016-12-13 06:13:07] arbitrage001 : no
[2016-12-13 06:13:18] arbitrage001 : other exchange didnt go that low
[2016-12-13 06:13:21] j8 : ah i see
[2016-12-13 06:13:44] pulsar-testing : arbitrage001: 710? where
[2016-12-13 06:13:54] arbitrage001 : 3-5 hours ago
[2016-12-13 06:13:56] pulsar-testing : which pair
[2016-12-13 06:14:04] arbitrage001 : btcz16
[2016-12-13 06:16:01] l3f : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5i1gy8/daily_discussion_tuesday_december_13_2016/db4pp1m/
[2016-12-13 06:16:05] l3f : this guy got rinced
[2016-12-13 06:16:06] l3f : rinsed*
[2016-12-13 06:17:51] arbitrage001 : l3f: most traders lose money
[2016-12-13 06:18:05] l3f : arbitrage001: you mean gamblers
[2016-12-13 06:18:10] arbitrage001 : many people think trading is easy
[2016-12-13 06:18:16] arbitrage001 : trading is gambling
[2016-12-13 06:18:23] l3f : true
[2016-12-13 06:18:34] arbitrage001 : putting money on exchange itself is an act of gambing also
[2016-12-13 06:18:34] l3f : but getting rekt this hard in a trending market
[2016-12-13 06:18:45] l3f : he could have made so much if it just bought and hold
[2016-12-13 06:18:49] l3f : he*
[2016-12-13 06:18:56] l3f : but alas
[2016-12-13 06:19:01] pulsar-testing : woo that guy took lost in the morning then long it afterwards
[2016-12-13 06:19:03] pulsar-testing : smart move
[2016-12-13 06:19:33] arbitrage001 : broke after 1 month
[2016-12-13 06:19:45] arbitrage001 : he is new to trading
[2016-12-13 06:19:57] arbitrage001 : most new traders do not survive more than a year
[2016-12-13 06:19:58] l3f : eh everyone blows up their first account
[2016-12-13 06:20:02] pulsar-testing : does anyone know how much did he lose in dollars
[2016-12-13 06:20:13] l3f : pulsar-testing: he said 5 figures usd = 10k usd
[2016-12-13 06:20:25] arbitrage001 : chunk change in trading
[2016-12-13 06:20:45] l3f : compared to some
[2016-12-13 06:21:33] pulsar-testing : it was a 25USD drop back then
[2016-12-13 06:21:43] pulsar-testing : i wonder how people control their risk
[2016-12-13 06:21:52] l3f : pulsar-testing: you mean all in?
[2016-12-13 06:22:02] l3f : that's how newbie "traders" do it
[2016-12-13 06:22:09] l3f : fuck stop losses
[2016-12-13 06:22:11] arbitrage001 : all in in 1 trade lol
[2016-12-13 06:22:12] l3f : #yolo
[2016-12-13 06:22:21] l3f : tap that margin button
[2016-12-13 06:22:28] pulsar-testing : ha
[2016-12-13 06:22:55] arbitrage001 : premium on swap is still fairly high
[2016-12-13 06:23:05] arbitrage001 : good condition for shorting
[2016-12-13 06:23:24] l3f : arbitrage001: you can still short this but we're back in the middle of the channel now
[2016-12-13 06:23:37] arbitrage001 : l3f: i dont use chart
[2016-12-13 06:23:46] arbitrage001 : only relative price across all exchanges
[2016-12-13 06:24:18] pulsar-testing : you mean something like keiko
[2016-12-13 06:24:23] l3f : however this isn't too bad of a time to go back into long
[2016-12-13 06:24:32] l3f : I would like a lower entry though
[2016-12-13 06:24:51] arbitrage001 : if i want to go long, there are cheaper place to buy
[2016-12-13 06:25:14] arbitrage001 : longing here now will pay premium + funding
[2016-12-13 06:25:35] l3f : I long on the futures so I don't pay the premium
[2016-12-13 06:25:41] l3f : that's all I use the futures for
[2016-12-13 06:25:44] l3f : free margin
[2016-12-13 06:25:49] arbitrage001 : you still pay it, just another form
[2016-12-13 06:26:25] arbitrage001 : anyway, i need to go out
[2016-12-13 06:26:25] l3f : consider this an interest rate swap
[2016-12-13 06:26:36] arbitrage001 : hopefully my short would close when i am back
[2016-12-13 06:26:44] arbitrage001 : relatively small trade
[2016-12-13 06:26:46] arbitrage001 : around 10k
[2016-12-13 06:26:47] l3f : where XBTSUD is the variable and XBTZ16 is the fixed
[2016-12-13 06:26:57] l3f : arbitrage001: you didn't close during liquidation?
[2016-12-13 06:27:03] arbitrage001 : i did
[2016-12-13 06:27:09] l3f : didn't close enough?
[2016-12-13 06:27:13] arbitrage001 : condition for short is up again
[2016-12-13 06:27:23] arbitrage001 : shorted again just now
[2016-12-13 06:27:30] l3f : haha ok
[2016-12-13 06:27:33] l3f : gl
[2016-12-13 06:27:37] arbitrage001 : just small trades anyway
[2016-12-13 06:27:44] arbitrage001 : going out, have fun
[2016-12-13 06:48:33] BitMEX_Wally : j8: Some of your orders were cancelled as spam orders (too many levels less than 0.01 XBT)
[2016-12-13 06:49:01] j8 : i'm aware
[2016-12-13 06:49:18] BitMEX_Wally : Cool, I'll take your off the spam account list :)
[2016-12-13 06:49:25] BitMEX_Wally : (otherwise any future small orders will be automatically hidden)
[2016-12-13 06:50:10] j8 : sure, just wanted to have something on the books
[2016-12-13 06:50:52] j8 : is there an announcement coming about the jpy index?
[2016-12-13 06:52:02] BitMEX_Wally : Quoine sent this out: `December 13th, 2016, 12:54 PM UTC+9 - Trading has been halted due to price issues. Spot and margin orders, as well as deposit/withdrawal service for fiat and crypto currency will be unavailable until further notice. Trades created after 2016-12-13 03:40:00 UTC will be reverted.`
[2016-12-13 06:52:12] BitMEX_Wally : This refers to their spot/margin market, not our XBJ futures
[2016-12-13 06:52:19] j8 : i saw that, so what are you guys gonna do
[2016-12-13 06:52:46] BitMEX_Wally : If they're not back up in a few hours we'll switch the index to Bitflyer
[2016-12-13 06:53:19] j8 : ok
[2016-12-13 06:59:30] CryptoTraderClub : Fuck i was long on Quoine and closed out at 96,000
[2016-12-13 07:00:18] CryptoTraderClub : Where did you see that message @BitMEX_Wally ? I've been having trouble finding where they update
[2016-12-13 07:01:48] rullwull : CryptoTraderClub: by email
[2016-12-13 07:02:53] pulsar-testing : BitMEX_Wally: any ideas how to trade on bitflyer as non-japanese without paying 7% tax
[2016-12-13 07:03:19] BitMEX_Wally : CryptoTraderClub: Quoine emailed all registered users
[2016-12-13 07:03:26] pulsar-testing : j8: the small orders, were they trigger for cancelling something bigger ;)?
[2016-12-13 07:03:53] BitMEX_Wally : I am moving the testnet .XBTJPY index over to Bitflyer now
[2016-12-13 07:05:36] l3f : what happened to Quoine?
[2016-12-13 07:06:29] pulsar-testing : their market making bots pushed the price up when everyone else are pushing down the btc price
[2016-12-13 07:06:50] l3f : lel
[2016-12-13 07:07:28] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Wally: could you please send an announcement email when you switch live to Bitflyer?
[2016-12-13 07:19:40] rapidtrades : sleger killed quiine?
[2016-12-13 07:21:52] miramm1115 : thanks @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-12-13 07:25:03] l3f : wow "Market Disruption Event"
[2016-12-13 07:25:03] l3f : so formal
[2016-12-13 07:25:25] zanza : rip Quinone
[2016-12-13 07:27:11] pulsar-testing : quoine just sent another email saying they are coming back soon
[2016-12-13 07:28:16] miramm1115 : please don't switch back to Quoine, we had enough ;-)
[2016-12-13 07:28:35] j8 : yeah agreed
[2016-12-13 07:31:30] rapidtrades : +1
[2016-12-13 07:31:50] rapidtrades : sleger disrupted quine
[2016-12-13 07:36:58] rapidtrades : u better come clean sleger before the SEC gets to you
[2016-12-13 07:38:10] pulsar-testing : BitMEX_Wally: will you still move the index in production?
[2016-12-13 07:39:29] pulsar-testing : or already updated the index to bitflyer?
[2016-12-13 07:41:08] Bora : bitFlyer! Good!
[2016-12-13 07:41:20] Bora : ty
[2016-12-13 07:46:52] pulsar-testing : what is the .XBTJPY I am looking at?
[2016-12-13 07:47:19] pulsar-testing : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/trade?symbol=.XBTJPY&count=200&columns=price&reverse=true
[2016-12-13 07:47:41] pulsar-testing : Bitflyer is not a 24 hours exchange
[2016-12-13 07:47:54] pulsar-testing : why bitflyer?
[2016-12-13 07:49:59] BitMEX_Wally : .XBTJPY switched from Quoine to bitFlyer at 07:300 UTC
[2016-12-13 07:50:52] BitMEX_Wally : pulsar-testing: What do you mean not 24 hours?
[2016-12-13 07:50:58] j8 : bitflyer's broker service is not 24/7 but the exchange is
[2016-12-13 07:52:53] pulsar-testing : is the change of reference long term?
[2016-12-13 07:56:55] pulsar-testing : BitMEX_Wally: Market Hours: 365 days 6am - 1am
[2016-12-13 07:57:08] pulsar-testing : from https://bitflyer.jp/
[2016-12-13 07:57:44] pulsar-testing : j8: what is their broker service? i thought they are an exchange like bitmex
[2016-12-13 07:58:00] pulsar-testing : I cannot open an account with them as they take 7% tax from foreigners
[2016-12-13 07:58:05] j8 : sort of like coinbase, which also has gdax
[2016-12-13 07:58:16] BitMEX_Wally : pulsar-testing: What username would you like? I can change it
[2016-12-13 07:58:51] j8 : they will buy or sell to you directly with a spread. that's the broker service
[2016-12-13 07:59:57] j8 : they also have a spot exchange, and then there's also bitflyer fx which is a sort of margin trading swap thing
[2016-12-13 08:00:01] pulsar-testing : BitMEX_Wally: thanks ben - name me keith is fine if that is still available
[2016-12-13 08:00:35] BitMEX_Wally : pulsar-testing: You already have that username on your other account
[2016-12-13 08:00:48] pulsar-testing : keith123 then
[2016-12-13 08:01:06] BitMEX_Wally : Done
[2016-12-13 08:01:34] keith123 : thanks a lot
[2016-12-13 08:01:56] keith123 : j8: i see... their translated website is strange
[2016-12-13 08:02:06] keith123 : that should not be named as market hours then
[2016-12-13 08:02:14] j8 : yeah it's pretty confusing
[2016-12-13 08:02:33] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: bitmex needs to get itself onto every BTC/USD trading statistics site, like bitcoinwisdom
[2016-12-13 08:02:40] l3f : free marketing
[2016-12-13 08:03:18] j8 : bitcoinwisdom hasn't added anything in years
[2016-12-13 08:03:41] j8 : bitcoinwisdom doesn't have ETH.. consider that
[2016-12-13 08:03:51] l3f : well it says bitcoinwisdom
[2016-12-13 08:04:04] l3f : but they have ltc so they have no excuse
[2016-12-13 08:05:49] keith123 : BitMEX_Wally: is the change of ref for BTCJPY permanent?
[2016-12-13 08:06:05] keith123 : or it will be rolled back to Quoine some day
[2016-12-13 08:06:25] BitMEX_Wally : If any of you guys have a contact at BitcoinWisdom it would be great if you could ask them to add us
[2016-12-13 08:06:35] keith123 : since the market was used to be made by quoine i think?
[2016-12-13 08:06:57] BitMEX_Wally : keith123: We will probably announce a move to an index that is Quoine and bitFlyer
[2016-12-13 08:07:15] keith123 : mixed?
[2016-12-13 08:07:23] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, 50% each or somwthing
[2016-12-13 08:07:28] BitMEX_Wally : But if one of them is down then 100% the other
[2016-12-13 08:08:11] keith123 : when should i expect the announcement?
[2016-12-13 08:08:18] keith123 : need to adjust trading parameters
[2016-12-13 08:08:25] harrychen : fuckkkkkk
[2016-12-13 08:08:40] harrychen : fuckkkkk
[2016-12-13 08:08:45] j8 : lol
[2016-12-13 08:08:48] BitMEX_Wally : keith123: We will stay on bitFlyer until at least XBJ24H settlement today.
[2016-12-13 08:09:16] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: the bitcoinwisdom guy is MIA for at least a year now
[2016-12-13 08:09:27] l3f : I just found out
[2016-12-13 08:09:27] l3f : lol
[2016-12-13 08:09:32] keith123 : BitMEX_Wally: thanks. will make change accordingly.
[2016-12-13 08:09:33] rapidtrades : KILLED BY THE CIA
[2016-12-13 08:09:44] rapidtrades : no doubt
[2016-12-13 08:10:11] l3f : so rapidzecs: how's the z.cash going?
[2016-12-13 08:10:35] rapidtrades : its nice and stable, abouut to pop
[2016-12-13 08:11:07] keith123 : keith123: please do announce via email and twitter when the .XBTJPY index new combination is out
[2016-12-13 08:18:03] Tetsuo : so is quoine doin a GOX "market cooldown" :-D
[2016-12-13 08:23:46] keith123 : Tetsuo: guess that was simply a bug in pricing bots
[2016-12-13 08:24:58] Tetsuo : well fiat withdrawls halted doesn´t sound very promising
[2016-12-13 08:26:46] keith123 : they had to revert trades, guess that is what needs to be done to freeze every dollars
[2016-12-13 08:26:54] keith123 : but we shall see...
[2016-12-13 08:27:56] Tetsuo : It sounds pretty bad
[2016-12-13 08:28:58] j8 : someone figured out how to manipulate their trading engine maybe? wouldn't surprise me
[2016-12-13 08:30:08] rapidtrades : 'someone'
[2016-12-13 08:30:10] rapidtrades : AKA sleger
[2016-12-13 08:30:15] j8 : right
[2016-12-13 08:30:59] j8 : baller sledger
[2016-12-13 08:31:18] rapidtrades : hey the man said we will see 100,000 yen
[2016-12-13 08:31:23] jose : fuck
[2016-12-13 08:31:53] rapidtrades : jose: quinED?
[2016-12-13 08:32:25] jose : rapidtrades: just wanted to be sure they were automatically replacing the word
[2016-12-13 08:32:30] Tetsuo : this will wake memories in Japan and stop the new upcoming Bitcoin fever
[2016-12-13 08:32:48] jose : OKCoin
[2016-12-13 08:34:21] rapidtrades : jose: try the N-wordd
[2016-12-13 08:35:06] j8 : please do, and use it in a sentence
[2016-12-13 08:41:04] keith123 : anyone has shorted XBTJPY on quine?
[2016-12-13 08:41:14] keith123 : when it rised
[2016-12-13 08:41:24] rapidtrades : sleger
[2016-12-13 08:41:29] keith123 : where is he
[2016-12-13 08:41:35] keith123 : @sleger
[2016-12-13 08:41:42] Tetsuo : on the top of a building
[2016-12-13 08:41:49] Tetsuo : lookin over the edge
[2016-12-13 08:41:53] rapidtrades : i think he's out now
[2016-12-13 08:42:03] Tetsuo : Game over
[2016-12-13 08:42:06] rapidtrades : he shorted at $50 premium
[2016-12-13 08:42:19] keith123 : i want to see who else had margin shorted the XBTJPY on quine
[2016-12-13 08:42:29] rapidtrades : why?
[2016-12-13 08:42:41] Tetsuo : doens´t help them anything , as BTC and FIAT withdrawls are halted
[2016-12-13 08:42:54] keith123 : they have to enable it one day
[2016-12-13 08:43:01] Tetsuo : just like Gox
[2016-12-13 08:43:12] keith123 : they have lots of money man
[2016-12-13 08:43:16] keith123 : well funded
[2016-12-13 08:43:32] Tetsuo : is this the first exchange you watch goin down?
[2016-12-13 08:44:24] keith123 : https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/quoine#/entity
[2016-12-13 08:44:51] Tetsuo : wow , quarterlys went down to 700$ in here
[2016-12-13 08:45:04] keith123 : someone got rekted
[2016-12-13 08:46:06] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: wtf
[2016-12-13 08:46:37] jose : negro
[2016-12-13 08:46:42] rapidtrades : let me guess, smone was arbing
[2016-12-13 08:47:03] BitMEX_Wally : jose: You're on the right track, try something ruder and use it in a sentence
[2016-12-13 08:47:05] jose : rapidtrades: oops i guess i was not this N-word, sorry
[2016-12-13 08:47:07] zanza : they guna rollback trades?
[2016-12-13 08:47:12] rapidtrades : and when qouine skied higher then got margin called on their short
[2016-12-13 08:47:13] j8 : the guy was in the chat earlier, his stop market orders triggered at 740
[2016-12-13 08:47:31] BitMEX_Wally : Lots of Stop Market orders ate through the bids and triggered each other
[2016-12-13 08:47:35] rapidtrades : are u sure?
[2016-12-13 08:48:29] j8 : well everything from 740 to 700 happened in one order, or within a second at least
[2016-12-13 08:48:30] jose : Load the Nigger's on the ship, time for an auction in Kingston.
[2016-12-13 08:48:48] rapidtrades : happened at the same time as qouine spike
[2016-12-13 08:48:55] rapidtrades : arb gone bad imo
[2016-12-13 08:49:22] rapidtrades : he was long quaterly, short yens
[2016-12-13 08:49:52] j8 : could be
[2016-12-13 08:50:08] jose : BitMEX_Wally: is there anyway to get the full list ?
[2016-12-13 08:50:11] keith123 : did anyone got rekted by the JPY futures here?
[2016-12-13 08:50:25] BitMEX_Wally : jose: Hahah trial and error :)
[2016-12-13 08:50:52] jose : BitMEX_Wally: no errors, only trials ;)
[2016-12-13 08:51:22] BitMEX_Wally : But you have correctly worked out that our CEO is a CEO
[2016-12-13 08:51:39] rapidtrades : im not sure what happened, i see a high of 96k here
[2016-12-13 08:51:40] j8 : he's a badass CEO
[2016-12-13 08:51:48] rapidtrades : how high did quoine trade?
[2016-12-13 08:52:13] j8 : 96716 on cryptowat.ch
[2016-12-13 08:52:38] jose : i am such a dick
[2016-12-13 08:53:10] Tetsuo : what´s the female version of it?
[2016-12-13 08:53:13] BitMEX_Wally : jose: You're on the right track again, try something ruder
[2016-12-13 08:53:17] keith123 : rapidtrades: 97k ? not sure
[2016-12-13 08:54:00] rapidtrades : cunt!
[2016-12-13 08:54:13] jose : grab them pussy
[2016-12-13 08:54:38] Tetsuo : lol, no volume at all in China during the pump and dump
[2016-12-13 08:54:53] jose : This chat is not Trump approved, sorry dudes
[2016-12-13 08:54:57] keith123 : which china exchange are you looking
[2016-12-13 08:55:05] Tetsuo : Huobi spot
[2016-12-13 08:55:11] BitMEX_Wally : I want to gently caress your kitten
[2016-12-13 08:55:14] keith123 : huobi is fake volume
[2016-12-13 08:55:22] keith123 : look somewhere else
[2016-12-13 08:55:29] Tetsuo : okkoin spot?
[2016-12-13 08:55:36] keith123 : BitMEX_Wally: o_o
[2016-12-13 08:55:42] keith123 : Tetsuo: better
[2016-12-13 08:55:59] jose : in china we had a beautiful retrace
[2016-12-13 08:56:04] Tetsuo : yeah sure...
[2016-12-13 08:56:10] keith123 : jose: you are from china?
[2016-12-13 08:56:33] BTCDJS : I'm not a fan over C U N T being changed to cunt
[2016-12-13 08:56:47] rapidtrades : NOONE AXED U
[2016-12-13 08:57:03] Tetsuo : keith123: there are sure lots of joses in China
[2016-12-13 08:57:09] BTCDJS : Make swearing great again!
[2016-12-13 08:57:15] laisee : wat went down @ quoine?
[2016-12-13 08:57:31] Tetsuo : another one bites the dust
[2016-12-13 08:58:15] Tetsuo : 1 week ago i told that they will probably sut down in the next 4-5 months
[2016-12-13 08:58:19] Tetsuo : this came earlier than expected
[2016-12-13 08:58:20] TB : cunt
[2016-12-13 08:58:36] laisee : trading engine SNAFU?
[2016-12-13 08:58:48] rms : @BitMEX_Wally Only my first two stop market orders triggered though, and the flash price on here should have taken me to liquidation. Does one of the help files here say the guidelines where rapid stop orders are intentionally not triggered?
[2016-12-13 08:58:49] laisee : or margin meltdown?
[2016-12-13 08:59:22] rms : ...I did learn my lesson and will do stop limit orders like $20 below instead of stop market
[2016-12-13 08:59:34] Tetsuo : rms: you are green and so have 2 extra lifes
[2016-12-13 08:59:36] j8 : laisee: they said "Trading has been halted due to price issues."
[2016-12-13 08:59:42] BitMEX_Wally : rms: Let me have a look at your account history
[2016-12-13 09:00:08] laisee : heh. prices often cause issues .... ;-0
[2016-12-13 09:00:15] j8 : indeed
[2016-12-13 09:00:21] keith123 : not the first time already
[2016-12-13 09:00:33] rms : Tetsuo: oh, that's mostly true
[2016-12-13 09:01:08] rapidtrades : wait a min...we hit $793 on stamp today? like wtf happened while i as sleeping
[2016-12-13 09:01:40] rapidtrades : $792>$761 lol
[2016-12-13 09:01:46] j8 : yeah big fakeout / double fakeout
[2016-12-13 09:01:47] laisee : some buying, some selling. zero col on z.cash
[2016-12-13 09:01:47] rapidtrades : i thought we never moved
[2016-12-13 09:01:51] l3f : will this let me say nice person?
[2016-12-13 09:01:53] j8 : inb4 triple fakeout
[2016-12-13 09:02:09] rms : higher highs and higher lows
[2016-12-13 09:02:17] rapidtrades : some people bought, some people sold
[2016-12-13 09:02:22] rms : continuing the uptrend as we hit hard resistance
[2016-12-13 09:02:30] laisee : mkts mving in mysterious ways these days.
[2016-12-13 09:02:44] rapidtrades : its that idiot buying lows again
[2016-12-13 09:02:51] rapidtrades : he thinks his smart but he's dumb
[2016-12-13 09:04:48] Tetsuo : ^+1
[2016-12-13 09:05:31] BitMEX_Wally : rms: Your position was not liquidated because although the last price of XBTZ16 fell the mark price did not
[2016-12-13 09:05:48] l3f : Whales can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent - Socrates
[2016-12-13 09:06:33] rms : oh, and i guess i must have set my stops to market price and not contract price, except for the two that triggered
[2016-12-13 09:06:36] laisee : rapidtrades is an expert on idiots and idiocy in general. lifetime of self-study I guess.
[2016-12-13 09:06:44] rms : thanks for checking
[2016-12-13 09:06:56] l3f : is rapidlosses going to let that burn slide?
[2016-12-13 09:07:00] l3f : laisee:
[2016-12-13 09:07:03] l3f : where's the comeback
[2016-12-13 09:07:16] BitMEX_Wally : rms: It looks like your other Stop orders did trigger, but there was not enough liquidity to execute
[2016-12-13 09:07:38] laisee : l3f: trying to make the trollbox less nice. sucks when everyone stops trolling
[2016-12-13 09:08:02] rms : like i would have cleared out the entire order book? or there is a limit where a market stop can only move the market 10% or something?
[2016-12-13 09:08:12] l3f : This trollbox is quite unlike the Poloniex trollbox
[2016-12-13 09:08:33] l3f : I think the word derivatives, swaps, and contracts scare away the pump and dump kids
[2016-12-13 09:08:38] l3f : as well as the lack of pump and dump coins
[2016-12-13 09:08:48] rapidtrades : laisee: it doesn't suck nearly as bad as your mother. She's barely worth the $3.50 I pay her
[2016-12-13 09:09:14] laisee : she said u owe on payments, is 3.50 too high?
[2016-12-13 09:09:51] BitMEX_Wally : rms: Stop Market orders become Market orders when triggered and they will sell all the way down to your bankruptcy price
[2016-12-13 09:10:08] l3f : a disappointing performance from rapidraids, -1 points for pulling the "your mother" card. Also we know he doesn't have enough margin to cover that 3.5 dollars
[2016-12-13 09:10:23] l3f : :^)
[2016-12-13 09:10:47] l3f : No bullying from now on boys
[2016-12-13 09:11:18] laisee : I'd give him 3.50 out of 100 for that back-burn
[2016-12-13 09:11:35] laisee : l3f: polo trollbox is a force of bad nature. amazing to watch at times
[2016-12-13 09:14:58] ett1 : rapidtrades: should have facefucked her and got yer moneys worth, cheap bastard
[2016-12-13 09:17:23] laisee : we can start a fund to help rapidtrades support his harem in style. its Xmas after all
[2016-12-13 09:17:36] ett1 : ill launch an ICO
[2016-12-13 09:17:53] ett1 : should we raise the funds on NXT or counterpary platform?
[2016-12-13 09:18:18] rapidtrades : raise them in my bitcoin address
[2016-12-13 09:18:48] ett1 : thats no fun, we want an exchange traded token we can pump and dump with leverage
[2016-12-13 09:19:18] laisee : RapidoCoin - pump & dump like pros, for the pros.
[2016-12-13 09:19:24] ett1 : imagine how big your harem could be if it reches $1bn marker cap
[2016-12-13 09:19:27] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-12-13 09:19:33] rapidtrades : Rapidcoin is better
[2016-12-13 09:19:52] l3f : rapidcoin, will give you rapidaids
[2016-12-13 09:20:00] rapidtrades : ''Make Rapid Never Has to Work Again''
[2016-12-13 09:20:05] CaptainDean : AidsCoins
[2016-12-13 09:20:10] laisee : rapidcoin comes and goes in no time.
[2016-12-13 09:20:41] CaptainDean : I have a shitload of aidscoin, anyone wanna share the burden ?
[2016-12-13 09:20:59] l3f : CaptainDean: you should call yourself rapidpozzes
[2016-12-13 09:21:06] laisee : can they be mixed to avoid tracing back to source?
[2016-12-13 09:21:09] CaptainDean : aidscoin "Share the burden"
[2016-12-13 09:21:37] ett1 : ive got a full blown margin because of aidscoin
[2016-12-13 09:21:38] laisee : aidscoin - "lose weight now, ask me how"
[2016-12-13 09:22:08] l3f : Nutritionists hate him!
[2016-12-13 09:22:27] ett1 : aidscoin - ride the rollercoaster
[2016-12-13 09:22:29] rapidtrades : 1.3m volume on that drop
[2016-12-13 09:22:48] rapidtrades : looks like a tool fomoed long before then got liquidated
[2016-12-13 09:23:11] laisee : tool or fool?
[2016-12-13 09:23:11] ett1 : aidscoin - itll take all your money
[2016-12-13 09:23:11] rapidtrades : 750k+510k in two previous hrs
[2016-12-13 09:23:25] rapidtrades : matches the drop volume
[2016-12-13 09:24:00] DangerandPlay : aidscoin - takes 5o years to bankrupt you
[2016-12-13 09:26:00] ett1 : Aidscoin - if you can donate just 0.1Bitcoin, we can invest in mosquito nets in Africa. So that every year, we can save million of mosquitos from dying needlesly of aids
[2016-12-13 09:28:20] l3f : Why even call it a fucking ICO, just say ponzi scheme
[2016-12-13 09:28:27] l3f : Just have an initial ponzi offering
[2016-12-13 09:28:32] l3f : fuck
[2016-12-13 09:29:04] l3f : now every coin and their mom needs to have a "technical" whitepaper filled with bullshit
[2016-12-13 09:29:16] l3f : whoever's bullshit smells the nicest we decide to buy and pump and dump
[2016-12-13 09:29:17] rapidtrades : Coz noone will invest if u call it ponzi dummy
[2016-12-13 09:29:19] l3f : the story of life
[2016-12-13 09:29:54] CaptainDean : pumpit
[2016-12-13 09:29:55] DangerandPlay : LOL @ rapidtrades
[2016-12-13 09:30:20] DangerandPlay : What about swedishpenispump coin
[2016-12-13 09:30:21] DangerandPlay : ?
[2016-12-13 09:30:46] CaptainDean : you mixing fantams and coin here
[2016-12-13 09:30:54] CaptainDean : you're
[2016-12-13 09:31:06] Tetsuo : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5i2ao1/wwwquoinecom_japanese_exhange_goes_up_4_while_btc/?st=iwnb4zzl&sh=cbad3b1b
[2016-12-13 09:31:18] CaptainDean : i'm out
[2016-12-13 09:31:25] CaptainDean : wotking in 4:30 hours
[2016-12-13 09:31:28] CaptainDean : night ladies
[2016-12-13 09:31:37] CaptainDean : beware of the shitcoin
[2016-12-13 09:31:51] Tetsuo : "the worst part about this is that they have had a premium (suspicious one in fact) that has attracted arbitrageurs and then they pull a shady move like this. " aka sleger
[2016-12-13 09:32:13] Tetsuo : aka Gox
[2016-12-13 09:33:42] laisee : alls fair in crypto trading, no?
[2016-12-13 09:34:07] ke : hello, do i need to do verification for my id and address by submit my passport and bank statement?
[2016-12-13 09:34:21] ett1 : arbs get what they deserve. needing to keep coins on exchange at all time, risking if one goes down etc
[2016-12-13 09:34:30] Tetsuo : "Beware the beast BitcoinExchanges, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death. "
[2016-12-13 09:34:31] rapidtrades : ke: no
[2016-12-13 09:34:49] ett1 : need to weigh in huge counterparty risk with all of them
[2016-12-13 09:35:28] ett1 : bitcoinexchange moneylenders aye
[2016-12-13 09:35:32] laisee : Tetsuo: think you mean devils spawn, not pawn
[2016-12-13 09:36:02] laisee : but sound advice overall
[2016-12-13 09:58:22] Tetsuo : "Bingbongfly 42minutes ago Meh, waking up to a liquidation is really not fun."
[2016-12-13 09:59:29] l3f : but gambling
[2016-12-13 09:59:30] l3f : is so fun
[2016-12-13 10:01:23] Tetsuo : "extratradingBullish 4 h ago I lost all my coins, have nothing left. I closed my short this morning for like 30% loss and I opened some longs with the rest when we broke 5500, then got liquidated just now. I started trading november 3rd with just over 5 figures usd, it took until december 12 to lose it all. Now, I can't even buy christmas gifts for my family
[2016-12-13 10:01:32] Tetsuo : "
[2016-12-13 10:01:35] l3f : Tetsuo: I too read reddit
[2016-12-13 10:01:50] l3f : we actually talked about the guy that rinsed
[2016-12-13 10:02:18] Tetsuo : :-)
[2016-12-13 10:12:23] BTCDJS : 777? JACKPOT!
[2016-12-13 10:14:24] l3f : I'm using my liquidation as my stoploss
[2016-12-13 10:14:36] l3f : just super high leverage so I control my loss
[2016-12-13 10:14:41] l3f : not sure if that's haram
[2016-12-13 10:17:52] BTCDJS : Sounds like a great idea. ? Put more coins in the machine. You can't lose
[2016-12-13 10:18:04] BitMEX_Wally : l3f: A liquidation is like a guaranteed stop loss, but you pay the maintenance margin for the privilege
[2016-12-13 10:18:32] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: well yeah, I'm limiting my loss to margin only
[2016-12-13 10:19:12] l3f : I used to think people who get liquidated are idiots, maybe they are just super safe traders who know their stop losses
[2016-12-13 10:19:48] l3f : a stop loss without slip is very nice
[2016-12-13 10:20:24] BTCDJS : All or nothing type of guy huh?
[2016-12-13 10:21:08] l3f : well I fund the margin with 2% of my account
[2016-12-13 10:21:42] l3f : so if it reaches that price, it completely invalidates my trade thesis, so it's bad trade and needs to be stopped
[2016-12-13 10:21:45] laisee : trading sub-account limit by another name
[2016-12-13 10:22:22] BTCDJS : So what happens if you're long and something like last night happens. Your out for nothing
[2016-12-13 10:23:00] l3f : BTCDJS: you'd trailing stop so you don't lose your profits
[2016-12-13 10:23:04] laisee : no, its all or nothing.
[2016-12-13 10:23:50] l3f : oh you're right with manipulation and pump to X price and instancely dump
[2016-12-13 10:23:51] l3f : yeah I'm dead
[2016-12-13 10:23:58] BTCDJS : l3f: why would you set a trailing stop of liquidation is your stop?
[2016-12-13 10:24:08] l3f : BTCDJS: to lock in profits
[2016-12-13 10:24:10] l3f : ???
[2016-12-13 10:24:19] l3f : liquidation is my stop when the trade goes against me
[2016-12-13 10:24:22] BTCDJS : l3f: dude
[2016-12-13 10:24:42] l3f : trailing stop when the trade is going my way
[2016-12-13 10:25:44] BTCDJS : That's pretty poor risk management. Make yourself a cup of tea. Sit in the chair with the garden view. And rethink your strategy
[2016-12-13 10:25:56] l3f : BTCDJS: explain
[2016-12-13 10:28:46] BTCDJS : A cup of tea is a beverage that most people enjoy to take a break. It is typically made by just adding a bag to boiling water. Some people prefer milk and sugar. Others just have is with a splash of lemon. It is a mild stimulant but it can provide great satisfaction if one learns how to savour the moment.
[2016-12-13 10:35:20] PARAFFIN : a cup of beer is better
[2016-12-13 10:35:37] anonymous789 : bear flag on okc hourly?
[2016-12-13 10:37:37] PARAFFIN : want to shake bears flag?
[2016-12-13 10:53:36] brouk : 777
[2016-12-13 10:53:48] brouk : my favorite number
[2016-12-13 10:58:57] arbitrage001 : hello, fellow
[2016-12-13 10:59:30] PARAFFIN : good morning @arbitrage001
[2016-12-13 10:59:51] arbitrage001 : 7pm here
[2016-12-13 10:59:55] arbitrage001 : just had dinner
[2016-12-13 11:00:57] PARAFFIN : arbitrage001: mhhh dinner
[2016-12-13 11:01:29] PARAFFIN : today when i logged in all my money was gone :D
[2016-12-13 11:01:29] arbitrage001 : ate some beef
[2016-12-13 11:01:33] arbitrage001 : aka bull meat
[2016-12-13 11:01:39] arbitrage001 : yum yum
[2016-12-13 11:01:54] PARAFFIN : mhh very yummy
[2016-12-13 11:14:18] anonymous789 : boring bitcoin just being boring again
[2016-12-13 11:35:07] anonymous789 : so much indecision on the hourly, shooting stars, hammers one after another lol
[2016-12-13 11:35:15] anonymous789 : whichever way this thing goes, it's going to be epic
[2016-12-13 11:35:48] anonymous789 : 1 engulfing candle after another lol
[2016-12-13 11:52:27] PARAFFIN : can i show this more accurate 0.0000 XBT (27.88%)
[2016-12-13 11:53:31] djkaltenudel : paraffin klick on your wallet
[2016-12-13 11:53:56] djkaltenudel : you will get roe in ybtc
[2016-12-13 11:54:10] PARAFFIN : yes 0.041 mbtc
[2016-12-13 11:54:12] PARAFFIN : thanks
[2016-12-13 11:54:29] djkaltenudel : np :)
[2016-12-13 11:56:13] PARAFFIN : is there a iphone app for bitmex
[2016-12-13 12:04:28] rapidtrades : no app for any platform afaik