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[2016-12-13 03:42:20] arbitrage001 : 5k short close
[2016-12-13 03:42:21] l3f : haha
[2016-12-13 03:42:25] arbitrage001 : 11.2k remainin
[2016-12-13 03:42:30] cookielito : nice
[2016-12-13 03:42:35] l3f : I'm short 25k from 786
[2016-12-13 03:42:38] cookielito : im way in the black
[2016-12-13 03:42:49] arbitrage001 : woot
[2016-12-13 03:42:50] mjones : Dumping
[2016-12-13 03:42:51] l3f : plus that sweet interest money
[2016-12-13 03:42:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 781.64
[2016-12-13 03:42:54] arbitrage001 : another 5k short close
[2016-12-13 03:42:55] l3f : HAHA
[2016-12-13 03:42:58] l3f : it begins
[2016-12-13 03:43:01] l3f : lovely
[2016-12-13 03:43:01] arbitrage001 : 6.2k remaining
[2016-12-13 03:43:02] cookielito : longs are dead
[2016-12-13 03:43:05] arbitrage001 : all close
[2016-12-13 03:43:08] arbitrage001 : weee
[2016-12-13 03:43:11] cookielito : emotions dont go far here
[2016-12-13 03:43:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 43 @ 778.60
[2016-12-13 03:43:19] l3f : almost hit my target
[2016-12-13 03:43:21] Rado : ops
[2016-12-13 03:43:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 305 @ 786.66
[2016-12-13 03:43:21] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2016-12-13 03:43:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 95 @ 786.60
[2016-12-13 03:43:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 128356 @ 785.95 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-12-13 03:43:22] l3f : 777 is my close
[2016-12-13 03:43:26] cookielito : shit im way up
[2016-12-13 03:43:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7000 @ 775.03
[2016-12-13 03:43:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 40000 @ 775.84
[2016-12-13 03:43:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20 @ 775.26
[2016-12-13 03:43:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 9500 @ 784.27
[2016-12-13 03:43:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 100 @ 783.73
[2016-12-13 03:43:34] l3f : AWWW YYEWAH SON
[2016-12-13 03:43:37] arbitrage001 : btc is brutal
[2016-12-13 03:43:45] brouk : lol
[2016-12-13 03:43:46] cookielito : WOW
[2016-12-13 03:43:47] holistico : weeee
[2016-12-13 03:43:48] brouk : i like this
[2016-12-13 03:43:57] l3f : let this motherfucker burn
[2016-12-13 03:44:01] arbitrage001 : geez
[2016-12-13 03:44:25] cookielito : its going to keep going down boys
[2016-12-13 03:44:34] l3f : I fully closed
[2016-12-13 03:44:37] l3f : through that liquidation
[2016-12-13 03:44:38] mjones : that sucked balls
[2016-12-13 03:44:52] arbitrage001 : now need to wait for another pu
[2016-12-13 03:44:58] arbitrage001 : pump
[2016-12-13 03:45:03] Rado : any news?
[2016-12-13 03:45:08] l3f : Rado: no
[2016-12-13 03:45:10] l3f : I'm telling you
[2016-12-13 03:45:12] arbitrage001 : or if discount becomes large enough for me to go long
[2016-12-13 03:45:14] l3f : you gotta read teh charts
[2016-12-13 03:45:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 17109 @ 767.78
[2016-12-13 03:45:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 768.89
[2016-12-13 03:45:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 100000 @ 776.36 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-12-13 03:45:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 3000 @ 776.55
[2016-12-13 03:45:37] mjones : 1000000
[2016-12-13 03:45:37] l3f : Holy fuck the rekt
[2016-12-13 03:45:38] mjones : wtf
[2016-12-13 03:45:45] arbitrage001 : lol
[2016-12-13 03:45:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 765.92
[2016-12-13 03:45:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 50000 @ 775.81 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-13 03:45:52] arbitrage001 : shit
[2016-12-13 03:45:53] l3f : well I'm not mad that I closed early
[2016-12-13 03:45:56] brouk : holy shit
[2016-12-13 03:45:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 10000 @ 773.33
[2016-12-13 03:45:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100170 @ 764.26 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-12-13 03:46:06] javierstone : what is happening
[2016-12-13 03:46:12] javierstone : this is crazy
[2016-12-13 03:46:14] arbitrage001 : fatfinger
[2016-12-13 03:46:16] cookielito : Shouldnt have closed
[2016-12-13 03:46:17] cookielito : damn
[2016-12-13 03:46:18] l3f : javierstone: every long is getting their asses handed to to them
[2016-12-13 03:46:19] l3f : whales
[2016-12-13 03:46:20] arbitrage001 : chinese are fat
[2016-12-13 03:46:21] cookielito : woow
[2016-12-13 03:46:28] l3f : whales fuck the bears and the longs
[2016-12-13 03:46:58] Coconuter : good to long
[2016-12-13 03:47:11] laisee : its christmas time, for someone
[2016-12-13 03:47:21] arbitrage001 : dec future cheaper than swap just now lol
[2016-12-13 03:47:27] arbitrage001 : shit, too fast
[2016-12-13 03:47:36] Coconuter : it will come up as fast as it got down
[2016-12-13 03:47:43] j8 : yeah shakeout!
[2016-12-13 03:47:43] Coconuter : big volume manipulating
[2016-12-13 03:47:45] arbitrage001 : really need algo to manage trade like this
[2016-12-13 03:47:59] tb : well i just made 9 btc
[2016-12-13 03:48:05] l3f : tb: nice
[2016-12-13 03:48:18] cookielito : cheers
[2016-12-13 03:48:19] Coconuter : same candle as last 780 price
[2016-12-13 03:48:20] jose : dec 30 ?
[2016-12-13 03:48:29] Coconuter : midle midle
[2016-12-13 03:48:31] Coconuter : okcoin
[2016-12-13 03:48:55] laisee : happy xmas, tb
[2016-12-13 03:49:11] tb : eh, not that much 9btc
[2016-12-13 03:49:24] j8 : shit, $700 print on xbtz16.. didn't even see that happen
[2016-12-13 03:49:25] l3f : tb: how big is your account?
[2016-12-13 03:49:28] arbitrage001 : 9 btc is a year worth of salary at 3rd world
[2016-12-13 03:49:37] tb : i have like 500+ btc in my cold wallet
[2016-12-13 03:49:43] l3f : tb: lel
[2016-12-13 03:49:44] tb : 50 in trading
[2016-12-13 03:50:01] l3f : tb: nice
[2016-12-13 03:50:11] Rado : j8: 700?
[2016-12-13 03:50:11] arbitrage001 : j8: you MM dec contract?
[2016-12-13 03:50:26] j8 : Rado: yeah look at the chart
[2016-12-13 03:50:30] arbitrage001 : Rado: dec future was cheaper thanswap just now
[2016-12-13 03:50:37] j8 : arbitrage001: no not mm'ing right now
[2016-12-13 03:50:40] Rado : I see 766 as the low
[2016-12-13 03:50:59] arbitrage001 : Rado: sould about right
[2016-12-13 03:51:16] j8 : 700.00 9100 7:43:35 PM S
[2016-12-13 03:51:25] Rado : poor guy
[2016-12-13 03:51:40] Rado : the one that sold I mean
[2016-12-13 03:51:46] Rado : not the one that bought :-)
[2016-12-13 03:51:47] tb : anyone adl'd?
[2016-12-13 03:52:43] Coconuter : lols
[2016-12-13 03:52:46] Coconuter : keep adding
[2016-12-13 03:52:59] yerb : did someone die? :)
[2016-12-13 03:53:02] Coconuter : each day the lower is higher
[2016-12-13 03:53:50] Coconuter : this kind of moves shows how unregulated this shit is
[2016-12-13 03:53:56] j8 : now go look what quoine is doing
[2016-12-13 03:53:58] Coconuter : and how easy is to move a 13billion market
[2016-12-13 03:54:06] arbitrage001 : Coconuter: whales eat small fish
[2016-12-13 03:54:26] Coconuter : sure as always
[2016-12-13 03:54:38] mbaril : wow big shake
[2016-12-13 03:54:42] mbaril : Wondering why ?
[2016-12-13 03:54:48] Coconuter : im holdng tho
[2016-12-13 03:55:09] Coconuter : and added on other brokers where i have balance free
[2016-12-13 03:55:10] Coconuter : lols
[2016-12-13 03:55:13] DangerandPlay : my liquidation price on btc is 702.33 :-/
[2016-12-13 03:55:17] rms : cause shakes on the way down maximizes profits on the way up
[2016-12-13 03:55:19] DangerandPlay : :-/
[2016-12-13 03:55:46] Coconuter : the bad thing is i spilled my Leffe Blond
[2016-12-13 03:55:47] Coconuter : on his move
[2016-12-13 03:55:51] Coconuter : it was on top of my bed
[2016-12-13 03:55:55] Coconuter : damn it WHALES mofockasss
[2016-12-13 03:57:20] Coconuter : man this move was the same bot
[2016-12-13 03:57:22] Coconuter : programmed
[2016-12-13 03:57:24] l3f : tbqh I'd still short this
[2016-12-13 03:57:28] l3f : but you know
[2016-12-13 03:57:33] l3f : we're now in the middle of the channel
[2016-12-13 03:57:42] mbaril : bot are going crazy :P
[2016-12-13 03:57:44] l3f : anybody still euphoric?
[2016-12-13 03:58:01] mbaril : probably going back to 5460
[2016-12-13 03:58:02] l3f : 777 as support sounds about right
[2016-12-13 03:58:06] Coconuter : day 12-02-2016
[2016-12-13 03:58:09] Coconuter : and today
[2016-12-13 03:58:18] Coconuter : same bot/group
[2016-12-13 03:58:22] Coconuter : okcoin
[2016-12-13 03:58:29] Coconuter : they see the balance
[2016-12-13 03:58:31] Coconuter : of longs
[2016-12-13 03:58:37] Coconuter : and fake the volume on shorts
[2016-12-13 03:58:40] Coconuter : some how
[2016-12-13 03:58:59] Coconuter : and earn it profiting as it goes down and long the bottom
[2016-12-13 03:59:29] Coconuter : this kills the respect for the currency
[2016-12-13 03:59:42] Coconuter : for little fishies
[2016-12-13 04:00:03] l3f : if 777 breaks we'll probably see 760
[2016-12-13 04:00:03] l3f : again
[2016-12-13 04:00:18] l3f : if it doesn't we'll be back onto the euphoria
[2016-12-13 04:00:28] mjones : Xbtz16 back to $6 higher. Next pump that goes back up. Long
[2016-12-13 04:01:29] Coconuter : you owe my a Leffe
[2016-12-13 04:01:35] Coconuter : okcoin fake volumator
[2016-12-13 04:01:43] Coconuter : me
[2016-12-13 04:02:14] DangerandPlay : it already broke 777....
[2016-12-13 04:02:48] l3f : DangerandPlay: oh I mean 774 ish
[2016-12-13 04:02:55] l3f : the support level from the past high
[2016-12-13 04:02:57] DangerandPlay : already broke it
[2016-12-13 04:02:57] mbaril : we will see 777 really soon
[2016-12-13 04:02:57] DangerandPlay : LOL
[2016-12-13 04:03:01] Coconuter : the support was 762
[2016-12-13 04:03:10] Coconuter : the fake volume from this group
[2016-12-13 04:03:14] l3f : Not on my bitstamp chart
[2016-12-13 04:03:15] Coconuter : took profit there and went long
[2016-12-13 04:03:34] j8 : quoine bought up to $834 while that was dumping.. unbelievable
[2016-12-13 04:04:26] Dtrade16 : ^^What?
[2016-12-13 04:04:44] j8 : https://cryptowat.ch/quoine/btcjpy
[2016-12-13 04:05:13] arbitrage001 : j8: a little dangerous to arbitrage a crook exchange
[2016-12-13 04:06:05] asdfman : what happened to huobi=
[2016-12-13 04:06:26] j8 : arbitrage001: come on, live a little
[2016-12-13 04:07:02] l3f : time to long?
[2016-12-13 04:07:14] brouk : huobi is down?
[2016-12-13 04:07:45] asdfman : as of over 10 min ago at least according to wisdom
[2016-12-13 04:07:52] l3f : huobi is too #lit because bitcoin is fire
[2016-12-13 04:07:59] arbitrage001 : j8: have to try to withdraw via fiat on queoine?
[2016-12-13 04:08:00] l3f : (only chinese speakers will understand this joke)
[2016-12-13 04:08:12] arbitrage001 : just like to know if it is worth the risk
[2016-12-13 04:08:28] rms : huobi is up for me
[2016-12-13 04:08:30] j8 : arbitrage001: i don't have funds there, just trade the futures
[2016-12-13 04:08:45] asdfman : just volume gone missing
[2016-12-13 04:08:46] arbitrage001 : j8: you mean btc only?
[2016-12-13 04:08:50] asdfman : what ever
[2016-12-13 04:09:32] j8 : arbitrage001: i just short the XBJ weekly / quarterly when it pops over 7% premium
[2016-12-13 04:09:35] mbaril : fight for the price :p
[2016-12-13 04:09:40] mbaril : almost 100k on both side
[2016-12-13 04:09:46] arbitrage001 : j8: i see
[2016-12-13 04:09:48] j8 : fully funded, can't be liquidated
[2016-12-13 04:10:04] arbitrage001 : j8: has the future ever settle way above current price?
[2016-12-13 04:10:13] Coconuter : lol some think theres a rea fight of whales
[2016-12-13 04:10:20] Coconuter : real'
[2016-12-13 04:10:41] j8 : arbitrage001: last week i got lucky, it came down from over 6% to around 2.4% at settlement
[2016-12-13 04:10:50] arbitrage001 : i see
[2016-12-13 04:10:56] arbitrage001 : still sound pretty dangerous
[2016-12-13 04:11:30] arbitrage001 : reward might worth it if you make 4% a week
[2016-12-13 04:11:33] j8 : i prefer the quarterly, gives you more time to wait for it to come down
[2016-12-13 04:11:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 6000 @ 778.20
[2016-12-13 04:11:51] thomaskikansha : lololol
[2016-12-13 04:12:05] KingTuna : This is AMAZING.. I just increased my leverage at the bottom and milked another 20,000 contracts :)
[2016-12-13 04:12:13] thomaskikansha : btfd
[2016-12-13 04:12:19] l3f : pump begins again?
[2016-12-13 04:12:22] KingTuna : I am getting an erection. Thank you whales
[2016-12-13 04:12:39] Coconuter : can someone tell me how a fake volume like this materialize ?
[2016-12-13 04:12:43] KingTuna : Hopefully it doesn't dump $70 unexpectedly and I get rekt
[2016-12-13 04:12:47] Coconuter : is it burocratic ?
[2016-12-13 04:12:55] l3f : Right now is what we'd call
[2016-12-13 04:12:57] Coconuter : or just one click on the computer to create fake orders
[2016-12-13 04:12:57] l3f : "dead cat bounce"
[2016-12-13 04:13:09] Coconuter : fake volume
[2016-12-13 04:13:11] Coconuter : the thing is
[2016-12-13 04:13:26] Coconuter : what happen when some other big group fakes the volume of the first faked order
[2016-12-13 04:13:32] Coconuter : they wouldnt allow that right
[2016-12-13 04:13:38] Coconuter : so this is a conjuction of all brokers
[2016-12-13 04:13:46] Coconuter : so there is no loss
[2016-12-13 04:13:49] Coconuter : only profit
[2016-12-13 04:15:17] Coconuter : add me to that group of only Winning's please
[2016-12-13 04:15:22] Coconuter : thank you
[2016-12-13 04:17:17] thedude : sup
[2016-12-13 04:17:39] Guest56495 : any explanation for the $700 wick on xbtz16
[2016-12-13 04:18:54] Coconuter : Guest56495: dayummmm
[2016-12-13 04:18:59] Coconuter : i didnt saw that
[2016-12-13 04:19:01] j8 : probably one or more stop market orders
[2016-12-13 04:19:04] Coconuter : kkkkkkkkkkkkk
[2016-12-13 04:19:11] Coconuter : j8 be real man
[2016-12-13 04:19:16] Coconuter : that volume is fake as shit
[2016-12-13 04:19:29] Coconuter : everyone long
[2016-12-13 04:19:45] Coconuter : brokers call each other on theyre encrypted blueberry
[2016-12-13 04:19:53] Coconuter : seal the targets and orders, volumes
[2016-12-13 04:19:56] Coconuter : and bang
[2016-12-13 04:19:56] j8 : what are you talking about
[2016-12-13 04:20:33] arbitrage001 : j8: he is making a case for conspirarcy
[2016-12-13 04:20:43] arbitrage001 : to screw traders
[2016-12-13 04:20:45] yerb : was that wick on XBTZ16 a liquidtion or a huge market order?
[2016-12-13 04:21:01] j8 : liquidations don't cause big wicks like that
[2016-12-13 04:21:16] yerb : so that was a panic sell
[2016-12-13 04:21:20] Coconuter : its not conspiracy
[2016-12-13 04:21:23] Coconuter : its in your face
[2016-12-13 04:21:26] j8 : market orders can, especially because the market makers pull out when it gets real volatile
[2016-12-13 04:21:27] yerb : hehe
[2016-12-13 04:21:37] asdfman : proper in the face
[2016-12-13 04:21:41] yerb : yeah, all the bids dissapeared
[2016-12-13 04:21:59] Coconuter : i see the same candle
[2016-12-13 04:22:02] Coconuter : on xbtz16
[2016-12-13 04:22:11] Coconuter : on the 30th of octouber
[2016-12-13 04:22:37] Coconuter : this is why bitcoin isnt the world currency yet
[2016-12-13 04:22:41] yerb : or someone was in huge profit and closed a massive long
[2016-12-13 04:22:45] Coconuter : maybe in 5-1- years
[2016-12-13 04:22:52] Coconuter : 10
[2016-12-13 04:23:14] Coconuter : yerb: ok yerb someone with unlimited cash
[2016-12-13 04:23:29] yerb : if it doesn't scale it won't be ever
[2016-12-13 04:23:45] Coconuter : it will if they stop stealing and faking the volume
[2016-12-13 04:23:48] Coconuter : since they hack
[2016-12-13 04:23:50] Coconuter : fake the volume
[2016-12-13 04:23:52] Coconuter : etc
[2016-12-13 04:23:56] Coconuter : it takes longer
[2016-12-13 04:24:12] BitMEX_Wally : The wick was due to Stop Market orders that were set to trigger based on Last Price (rather than Mark Price)
[2016-12-13 04:24:14] yerb : you mean china spot?
[2016-12-13 04:24:28] Coconuter : BitMEX_Wally: where is wally
[2016-12-13 04:24:35] Coconuter : =)
[2016-12-13 04:24:44] BitMEX_Wally : Coconuter: I am in Hong Kong :D
[2016-12-13 04:24:54] Coconuter : so you know how the world doesnt spin
[2016-12-13 04:24:58] Coconuter : and its stationary
[2016-12-13 04:25:02] Coconuter : lolz
[2016-12-13 04:25:46] thedudebtc : so it just ate up all the MM orders down to 700? or was the book empty down there?
[2016-12-13 04:26:07] Coconuter : it ate up all the MM
[2016-12-13 04:26:19] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-13 04:26:23] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah some of the Stops triggered each other and ate all the way down
[2016-12-13 04:26:29] BitMEX_Wally : This is why we do not use Last Price to trigger liquidations
[2016-12-13 04:26:47] Coconuter : yep bitmex is the most fair of all
[2016-12-13 04:26:55] Coconuter : but still they need to follow the flow
[2016-12-13 04:27:01] Coconuter : i understand
[2016-12-13 04:27:07] Coconuter : i also have to flow with the river
[2016-12-13 04:27:33] Coconuter : btc was going to break
[2016-12-13 04:27:35] daveberns1 : what the hell is going on with the XBJ contracts
[2016-12-13 04:27:35] Coconuter : 800 mark
[2016-12-13 04:27:39] Coconuter : today
[2016-12-13 04:27:42] Dtrade16 : Gold most manipulated thing ever jez
[2016-12-13 04:27:42] Coconuter : they called
[2016-12-13 04:27:45] Coconuter : everyone
[2016-12-13 04:27:49] Coconuter : and shorted
[2016-12-13 04:28:07] Coconuter : anyways
[2016-12-13 04:28:18] Dtrade16 : Probably wall street playing with us all
[2016-12-13 04:28:26] Dtrade16 : Once hedge funds really get in it'
[2016-12-13 04:28:28] Coconuter : for sure infinite money
[2016-12-13 04:28:31] Dtrade16 : it's fucking over
[2016-12-13 04:28:35] Coconuter : believe me
[2016-12-13 04:28:42] Dtrade16 : BTC will go to ish
[2016-12-13 04:28:43] Coconuter : btc would break 800$ today
[2016-12-13 04:28:47] Coconuter : they had a reunion
[2016-12-13 04:28:50] Coconuter : saw the orders
[2016-12-13 04:28:53] Coconuter : the bot entered
[2016-12-13 04:28:56] Coconuter : in out
[2016-12-13 04:28:58] Coconuter : profit
[2016-12-13 04:29:00] Coconuter : long
[2016-12-13 04:29:41] Coconuter : it isnt good for the world market makers to bitcoin to take over for now they have to much U$
[2016-12-13 04:30:13] Coconuter : if you had infinite USD
[2016-12-13 04:30:19] Coconuter : to tackle BTC
[2016-12-13 04:30:24] Dtrade16 : I can't believe with all this bs gold is down
[2016-12-13 04:30:24] Coconuter : why would yah?
[2016-12-13 04:30:36] Dtrade16 : it's the most corrupt thing I've ever seen in my life
[2016-12-13 04:30:52] asdfman : because they want to go away from debt based pure legal money
[2016-12-13 04:30:54] Coconuter : yep gold should be 10k
[2016-12-13 04:31:03] BitMEX_Wally : daveberns1: Quoine is down so the XBJ market makers ran for the hills
[2016-12-13 04:31:10] Coconuter : they drop 10years of gold mining
[2016-12-13 04:31:13] Coconuter : in one single trade
[2016-12-13 04:31:16] thedudebtc : thanks wally
[2016-12-13 04:31:16] Dtrade16 : Cause it's suppose to be a safe haven
[2016-12-13 04:31:16] Coconuter : shorting it
[2016-12-13 04:31:18] thedudebtc : :)
[2016-12-13 04:31:19] Coconuter : with fake money
[2016-12-13 04:31:26] Coconuter : crazy times
[2016-12-13 04:31:31] asdfman : easy
[2016-12-13 04:31:34] thedudebtc : i bet MM is rich now
[2016-12-13 04:31:54] daveberns1 : BitMEX_Wally: oy... looks like it went down right as it was peaking
[2016-12-13 04:32:02] daveberns1 : cray
[2016-12-13 04:32:53] asdfman : Coconuter: look they know infinite money cant work
[2016-12-13 04:33:13] asdfman : they cannot be this stupid. even if they are satanists
[2016-12-13 04:33:15] Dtrade16 : With every day that goes by, people go out and buy gold, give it away as gifts, loose at at beaches, hoard it and you're still seeing it in the dump
[2016-12-13 04:33:23] Coconuter : asdfman: it works until one day
[2016-12-13 04:33:30] asdfman : illusion-money
[2016-12-13 04:33:33] asdfman : all of it
[2016-12-13 04:33:35] Coconuter : this is why people keeps stocling silver, gold, btc
[2016-12-13 04:33:46] Coconuter : stocking
[2016-12-13 04:33:47] asdfman : many thousands of years
[2016-12-13 04:33:53] Dtrade16 : Why? Because wall street commits economic warfare on the general masses and doesn't want the average person to be wealthy
[2016-12-13 04:33:56] Coconuter : no man
[2016-12-13 04:33:58] asdfman : if the state accept it, its fraud
[2016-12-13 04:34:00] Coconuter : with this new reality shift
[2016-12-13 04:34:03] Coconuter : they are scared
[2016-12-13 04:34:16] Coconuter : who arent in control are even more scared
[2016-12-13 04:34:20] Coconuter : tech is booming
[2016-12-13 04:34:27] Coconuter : btc and few others crypto
[2016-12-13 04:34:32] Coconuter : will take over in 5-10 years
[2016-12-13 04:34:46] Coconuter : they are trying to delay it so that it doesnt happen in 2 -3 years
[2016-12-13 04:34:47] asdfman : well they (NSA/CIA) have been trying to make internet money for a long time.
[2016-12-13 04:35:15] asdfman : I believe btc etc was it
[2016-12-13 04:35:31] asdfman : etcetera
[2016-12-13 04:35:58] asdfman : save the fall of the empire
[2016-12-13 04:36:06] Coconuter : the strange is that this time Bitmex went even lower fake volume
[2016-12-13 04:36:12] Coconuter : than OKCoin
[2016-12-13 04:36:15] Coconuter : lolz
[2016-12-13 04:37:24] Coconuter : need to work out your protection bots bitmex
[2016-12-13 04:37:36] Coconuter : they aint kidding my friends
[2016-12-13 04:37:37] arbitrage001 : go pump more !
[2016-12-13 04:38:19] imabeast : why didnt my orders get filled at 740 on xbtz16?
[2016-12-13 04:38:50] arbitrage001 : imabeast: it didnt get that low
[2016-12-13 04:39:18] imabeast : whats up with the candle then
[2016-12-13 04:39:33] arbitrage001 : chart could be wrong
[2016-12-13 04:39:38] Coconuter : its fake volume
[2016-12-13 04:39:40] arbitrage001 : see it go as low as 765
[2016-12-13 04:39:42] Coconuter : if it was a stop
[2016-12-13 04:39:52] j8 : there's trades in the history as low as $700 even
[2016-12-13 04:39:52] Coconuter : it had ben trigred
[2016-12-13 04:40:02] arbitrage001 : chart is definately wrong then
[2016-12-13 04:40:12] j8 : chart is right for me, it has a wick to 700
[2016-12-13 04:40:27] arbitrage001 : there is actual trade to 700?
[2016-12-13 04:40:30] j8 : yes
[2016-12-13 04:40:42] tb : i got filled at 71x
[2016-12-13 04:40:42] j8 : there was
[2016-12-13 04:41:23] arbitrage001 : gee
[2016-12-13 04:41:39] j8 : 9100 contracts at 700
[2016-12-13 04:41:41] arbitrage001 : have to be caution trading here then
[2016-12-13 04:41:42] Coconuter : there was
[2016-12-13 04:41:46] j8 : 9000 at 703
[2016-12-13 04:41:51] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-13 04:42:10] j8 : 30k or so between 710 and 720
[2016-12-13 04:42:23] Coconuter : why it disappeared from recent trades
[2016-12-13 04:42:25] Coconuter : ?
[2016-12-13 04:42:25] arbitrage001 : someone will be pissed when he wake up
[2016-12-13 04:42:37] j8 : Coconuter: because it's not very recent anymore
[2016-12-13 04:42:47] Coconuter : kkkk
[2016-12-13 04:42:50] Coconuter : its 1 hour agoo
[2016-12-13 04:42:55] Coconuter : just scroll down
[2016-12-13 04:43:53] Coconuter : i can only imagine how much all the brokers get to make this cointainment of btc price
[2016-12-13 04:44:11] Coconuter : when you have infinite money
[2016-12-13 04:44:15] Coconuter : it could be like 2 btc to one
[2016-12-13 04:44:18] Coconuter : or even more
[2016-12-13 04:44:22] Coconuter : in fiat
[2016-12-13 04:44:25] Coconuter : CRAZY
[2016-12-13 04:44:28] Coconuter : lol
[2016-12-13 04:45:12] j8 : there should be a rule
[2016-12-13 04:45:20] j8 : that you only get three lines in a row
[2016-12-13 04:45:25] j8 : much like a haiku
[2016-12-13 04:45:43] Coconuter : no 100U$ fake whicks
[2016-12-13 04:46:00] Coconuter : this should be a rule
[2016-12-13 04:56:25] 72monkey : so people can have their limit orders filled down at 700 but cannot be liquidated due to mark price is that right
[2016-12-13 04:56:33] daveberns1 : @BitMEX_Wally any word of whats goin on at quione?
[2016-12-13 04:58:34] l3f : 5 dollar futures premium
[2016-12-13 04:58:36] l3f : they scared
[2016-12-13 04:59:10] Newmex : new quarterlies in less than 5 days. the premium will not be high anymore
[2016-12-13 04:59:13] Newmex : imo
[2016-12-13 04:59:45] l3f : yeah but it doesn't settle till 31th
[2016-12-13 04:59:48] l3f : plenty of time for the p&d
[2016-12-13 05:10:32] rms : i liquidated 20k in a market stop at 740 that was filled at 716
[2016-12-13 05:11:46] rms : and another 20k at 738 that was filled at 712
[2016-12-13 05:11:55] rms : and i had stops going lower than that that weren't triggered
[2016-12-13 05:12:43] rms : i guess it got messed up enough to trigger my stops from massive liquidations...
[2016-12-13 05:17:03] j8 : liquidations brought it to 765 or so, the rest was stops / bots with nothing on the orderbook
[2016-12-13 05:18:47] javierstone : whoa thats crazy
[2016-12-13 05:22:11] tb : my bids were filled at 712/716
[2016-12-13 05:22:34] tb : on z16
[2016-12-13 05:26:36] aethlios : http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/
[2016-12-13 05:26:54] aethlios : bitmex 1st in usd with fees exchange
[2016-12-13 05:27:30] arbitrage001 : aethlios: to be expected
[2016-12-13 05:27:48] arbitrage001 : good platform + less fee == more volume
[2016-12-13 05:27:57] j8 : shouldn't be on the list with spot exchanges
[2016-12-13 05:27:59] arbitrage001 : nice api to support mm
[2016-12-13 05:28:33] arbitrage001 : j8: spot exchange will eventually have less volume due to their high fee
[2016-12-13 05:28:42] aethlios : I hope bitmex in 1 year be the major futures exchange and not the scummy fake volume Chinese.
[2016-12-13 05:29:08] j8 : ok but bitmex isn't #1 volume in derivatives
[2016-12-13 05:29:22] arbitrage001 : j8: which is? okc?
[2016-12-13 05:29:31] j8 : yeah by a factor of 50 or so
[2016-12-13 05:29:43] arbitrage001 : j8: wont take the volume too serious
[2016-12-13 05:30:14] arbitrage001 : could be house trade, employee trading on each other
[2016-12-13 05:30:24] arbitrage001 : zana mentioned it before
[2016-12-13 05:30:25] j8 : sure, same standard applies here
[2016-12-13 05:30:46] aethlios : 70,000 btc traded at okcoin quarterly in 10 minutes dump. fake as hell, I watch live the trades, bid ask stable and trades pass as filled in a middle price.
[2016-12-13 05:31:00] j8 : in reality i don't think the liquidity is fifty times, but more like 5 or 10 based on trading both
[2016-12-13 05:31:32] arbitrage001 : size here tend to be a lot larger also
[2016-12-13 05:31:39] arbitrage001 : see the 50k bid at 776.93
[2016-12-13 05:32:05] arbitrage001 : and volume is counted here by contract?
[2016-12-13 05:32:09] arbitrage001 : or btc?
[2016-12-13 05:32:49] j8 : both
[2016-12-13 05:33:41] j8 : on okc you sometimes have single liquidations of 40k contracts, which is 4 million here, more than open interest
[2016-12-13 05:33:58] arbitrage001 : i see
[2016-12-13 05:34:09] arbitrage001 : a lot of big whale trade on okc
[2016-12-13 05:34:12] arbitrage001 : then
[2016-12-13 05:34:31] aethlios : Bitmex think of launching a 12 month contract 100x xbtusd inverse like the 3month (not quanto). We can trade the spread with swap and 3M. will create a nice 1 year curve. also will be much more volatile and attract speculators. also noone else has that product.
[2016-12-13 05:34:58] arbitrage001 : aethlios: make a request
[2016-12-13 05:35:12] l3f : aethlios: what is 3M?
[2016-12-13 05:35:13] arbitrage001 : i am sure they didnt know the 3 month contracts has this much volume
[2016-12-13 05:35:37] l3f : oh 3 month
[2016-12-13 05:35:39] l3f : lel
[2016-12-13 05:35:46] arbitrage001 : ideally, should have 3,6,9,12 months
[2016-12-13 05:36:01] aethlios : swap, 3month and 12month are excellent and not antagonistic each other. also because not a quanto MM's will like it.
[2016-12-13 05:36:59] l3f : the problem is that it'll just spread their volume over 3 contracts
[2016-12-13 05:37:07] l3f : and their volume isn't that large as is
[2016-12-13 05:37:45] l3f : I can see it once they are the dominant exchange
[2016-12-13 05:37:48] aethlios : I mean better kill the yean series and have usd and yuan only with swap 3month, 6month and 12month. or swap 3month and 12 month.
[2016-12-13 05:38:23] aethlios : better kill the yen series
[2016-12-13 05:38:45] l3f : Yen 7D is already getting the axe
[2016-12-13 05:41:21] aethlios : if you have a longer curve up to 12months, more strategies enabled and will attract traders from okcoin I believe.
[2016-12-13 05:42:08] aethlios : we can trade the slope of the curve between maturities, but inverse xbtusd (NO quanto shit)
[2016-12-13 05:42:33] l3f : aethlios: you mean botfest glore
[2016-12-13 05:45:09] rapidtrades : +1 for longer futures but don't kill the yen :)
[2016-12-13 05:46:50] j8 : should maybe kill quoine at least
[2016-12-13 05:47:24] aethlios : ok could try add a 12month for usd and yuan and if it trades fine in 3 months add a 6month also. so have swap 3month 6month and 12month.
[2016-12-13 05:56:28] j8 : quoine: "Trading has been halted due to price issues."
[2016-12-13 05:57:52] j8 : market disruption event? change to bitflyer? @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-12-13 05:59:18] arbitrage001 : j8: lol. you must be shorting a lot at high premium
[2016-12-13 05:59:39] j8 : only got a little in
[2016-12-13 06:00:24] j8 : "Spot and margin orders, as well as deposit/withdrawal service for fiat and crypto currency will be unavailable until further notice. Trades created after 2016-12-13 03:40:00 UTC will be reverted."
[2016-12-13 06:01:24] arbitrage001 : expect the exchange to go under?
[2016-12-13 06:01:32] arbitrage001 : with irregularity
[2016-12-13 06:01:58] j8 : i dunno, their trading engine is crap, this happened not too long ago also
[2016-12-13 06:02:47] j8 : glad i never put funds there though
[2016-12-13 06:03:29] j8 : deposit and withdrawal unavailable until further notice.. that sure doesn't sound good
[2016-12-13 06:03:29] arbitrage001 : slegar mentioned worst case is he will withdraw via fiat
[2016-12-13 06:03:53] arbitrage001 : guess that door has closed
[2016-12-13 06:07:16] rullwull : i heard complains from some big customers that quoni cheats with the fees
[2016-12-13 06:08:17] j8 : so basically the house MM bot went haywire and bought instead of sold, and they rolled back 1000 btc worth of trades
[2016-12-13 06:08:48] pulsar-testing : did anyone lose on quoine too due to the revert?
[2016-12-13 06:10:24] j8 : well, everyone would have what they had before, although someone that hedged those trades that got reverted might have lost
[2016-12-13 06:10:48] arbitrage001 : i would be pissed if i do arbitrage there
[2016-12-13 06:11:20] pulsar-testing : arbitrage001: where do you arb?
[2016-12-13 06:11:28] j8 : that's why you do it here, bitmex doesn't roll back shit
[2016-12-13 06:12:12] pulsar-testing : j8: bitmex's system is almost the best i have ever seen in bitcoin industry
[2016-12-13 06:12:29] j8 : what's the best
[2016-12-13 06:12:31] arbitrage001 : i would be pissed also my stop loss trigger at 710 earlier
[2016-12-13 06:12:41] arbitrage001 : if
[2016-12-13 06:12:59] j8 : arbitrage001: it was on mark price i guess?
[2016-12-13 06:13:07] arbitrage001 : no
[2016-12-13 06:13:18] arbitrage001 : other exchange didnt go that low
[2016-12-13 06:13:21] j8 : ah i see
[2016-12-13 06:13:44] pulsar-testing : arbitrage001: 710? where
[2016-12-13 06:13:54] arbitrage001 : 3-5 hours ago
[2016-12-13 06:13:56] pulsar-testing : which pair
[2016-12-13 06:14:04] arbitrage001 : btcz16
[2016-12-13 06:16:01] l3f : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5i1gy8/daily_discussion_tuesday_december_13_2016/db4pp1m/
[2016-12-13 06:16:05] l3f : this guy got rinced
[2016-12-13 06:16:06] l3f : rinsed*
[2016-12-13 06:17:51] arbitrage001 : l3f: most traders lose money
[2016-12-13 06:18:05] l3f : arbitrage001: you mean gamblers
[2016-12-13 06:18:10] arbitrage001 : many people think trading is easy
[2016-12-13 06:18:16] arbitrage001 : trading is gambling
[2016-12-13 06:18:23] l3f : true
[2016-12-13 06:18:34] arbitrage001 : putting money on exchange itself is an act of gambing also
[2016-12-13 06:18:34] l3f : but getting rekt this hard in a trending market
[2016-12-13 06:18:45] l3f : he could have made so much if it just bought and hold
[2016-12-13 06:18:49] l3f : he*
[2016-12-13 06:18:56] l3f : but alas
[2016-12-13 06:19:01] pulsar-testing : woo that guy took lost in the morning then long it afterwards
[2016-12-13 06:19:03] pulsar-testing : smart move
[2016-12-13 06:19:33] arbitrage001 : broke after 1 month