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[2016-12-12 23:20:08] BTCDJS : ?
[2016-12-12 23:20:30] BTCDJS : Damn didn't work
[2016-12-12 23:21:24] Boontjie : PARAFFIN: my bad
[2016-12-12 23:21:59] KingTuna : 697 liquidation price risky
[2016-12-12 23:30:50] PARAFFIN : woot
[2016-12-12 23:35:03] arbitrage001 : good morning
[2016-12-12 23:35:06] arbitrage001 : how things go
[2016-12-12 23:35:22] arbitrage001 : btc only slightly higher
[2016-12-12 23:35:32] arbitrage001 : than before i sleep
[2016-12-12 23:37:01] sleger : the water is boiling
[2016-12-12 23:37:09] sleger : rapid the frog is not feeling it
[2016-12-12 23:38:26] PARAFFIN : arbitrage001: good mlrgning
[2016-12-12 23:39:31] BTCDJS : What ever happened to MR BLUE? REKT?
[2016-12-12 23:43:25] sleger : i banned him
[2016-12-12 23:45:01] mjones : waiting for the next leg up
[2016-12-12 23:45:27] mjones : china is close. bitfinex not even close
[2016-12-12 23:46:33] PARAFFIN : mjones: will come soon
[2016-12-12 23:58:27] l3f : BitMEX_Greg: will bitmex add entry orders? i.e a market/limit buy/sell when a price target is hit
[2016-12-13 00:02:34] BitMEX_Greg : l3f: Do you mean like a Stop Market or Stop Limit?
[2016-12-13 00:02:49] poly24 : zcash cracks me up. 1 or 2 "whales" trying desperately to prop up the priced of an overpriced coin
[2016-12-13 00:03:12] BitMEX_Greg : l3f: As we have these already, take a look over the Order Type FAQ: https://www.bitmex.com/app/orderTypeFAQ
[2016-12-13 00:18:35] rapidtrades : cmon lil birdie drop from the sky
[2016-12-13 00:20:27] BTCDJS : sleger: are you sure he didn't come back as a flammable liquid?
[2016-12-13 00:20:50] sleger : maybe, try to light him up
[2016-12-13 00:21:01] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: how low you expecting? Above 700 or below
[2016-12-13 00:21:19] rapidtrades : below 650
[2016-12-13 00:21:20] sleger : above 800
[2016-12-13 00:21:30] BTCDJS : 666
[2016-12-13 00:21:36] rapidtrades : 20% drop
[2016-12-13 00:21:53] sleger : rapidtrades: wanna bet on 666 before 800 ?
[2016-12-13 00:22:12] rapidtrades : no? that would be stupid
[2016-12-13 00:22:28] sleger : yes but i didnt become rich by magic
[2016-12-13 00:22:47] rapidtrades : maybe u just got lucky?
[2016-12-13 00:22:59] sleger : with a double digit sharpe ?
[2016-12-13 00:23:24] rapidtrades : that's not sustainable
[2016-12-13 00:23:35] BTCDJS : 666 is very probable
[2016-12-13 00:23:53] sleger : rapidtrades: it wouldnt even exist in the first place if it werent sustainable
[2016-12-13 00:24:02] sleger : virtu has a >100 sharpe
[2016-12-13 00:24:54] rapidtrades : well market making is a different beast and you're in no way guaranteed to keep up those returns
[2016-12-13 00:25:30] sleger : there is never any guarantee no
[2016-12-13 00:26:05] rapidtrades : I'm not saying you're not good but those skills don't necessarily translate into other areas of trading :)
[2016-12-13 00:27:09] sleger : well longer terms positions cant have a 2 digit sharpe thats for sure
[2016-12-13 00:27:12] sleger : like my eth position
[2016-12-13 00:27:18] lockhedge : sleger: virtu used to be very profitable when they were small but they don't have a 3 digit sharpe anymore
[2016-12-13 00:27:31] sleger : lockhedge: yes they do
[2016-12-13 00:27:45] sleger : unless it changed in last 6 months
[2016-12-13 00:28:14] rapidtrades : MM has high returns until it doesn't, its not very future proof imo
[2016-12-13 00:28:25] rapidtrades : competition is fierce
[2016-12-13 00:28:44] rapidtrades : so they could go from 100 sharpe to negative sharpe
[2016-12-13 00:28:51] sleger : yes it only works as long as you're somewhat better than most of the competition
[2016-12-13 00:29:05] lockhedge : sleger: last time i checked they made around 100% ROE p.a. with relatively high leverage
[2016-12-13 00:29:06] sleger : but between 15 sharpe and 100 sharpe there is almost no difference anyways
[2016-12-13 00:29:11] rapidtrades : its a lot harder game to play
[2016-12-13 00:29:15] sleger : you almost never hit a negative day
[2016-12-13 00:29:24] sleger : lockhedge: that doesnt tell you anything about sharpe
[2016-12-13 00:30:01] rapidtrades : there's lots of risks outside of trading too, like regulatory to exchange risk
[2016-12-13 00:30:03] sleger : if you make 0.001% every day exactly you have infinite sharpe
[2016-12-13 00:30:22] sleger : rapidtrades: yes and all pro MM keep adapting adjusting to these changes
[2016-12-13 00:30:37] rapidtrades : slippage costs, liquidity changes etc
[2016-12-13 00:30:41] rapidtrades : can't scale
[2016-12-13 00:30:49] rapidtrades : list goes on
[2016-12-13 00:32:26] rapidtrades : You seem well diversified with ur 50 apartments so it prolly doesn't matter if the run ends :)
[2016-12-13 01:00:20] lockhedge : sleger: when you devide something by 0 the result is actually undefined not "infinite", 0.001% daily would very likely lead to a negative sharpe ratio if you just add a very small standard deviation
[2016-12-13 01:00:46] sleger : no it wouldnt dumbass
[2016-12-13 01:01:05] sleger : a standard dev is a positive number, positive divided by positive is always positive idiot
[2016-12-13 01:01:09] sleger : lockhedge:
[2016-12-13 01:01:39] lockhedge : sleger: what risk free rate do you use?
[2016-12-13 01:02:06] sleger : consider 0.001% the return above risk free rate
[2016-12-13 01:04:37] sleger : if you had gone to school you would know that lim (0.001/x | x->0+) = +infinity
[2016-12-13 01:05:04] sleger : and also you would know that a standard deviation is by construction >= 0
[2016-12-13 01:12:07] lockhedge : sleger: don't want to discuss with you if "undefined" or "infinite" is correct. your thought "if you make 0.001% every day exactly you have infinite sharpe" is interesting, because it shows the weakness of the sharpe ratio model
[2016-12-13 01:12:50] sleger : its not a model its just a formula
[2016-12-13 01:13:12] sleger : and no it doesnt show its weakness because i just gave a stupid unrealistic example to start with
[2016-12-13 01:13:17] rapidtrades : its a formula u use to measure performance by though
[2016-12-13 01:13:48] sleger : its a good indicator of stability of performance
[2016-12-13 01:14:17] sleger : 30% return with a sharpe of 0.5 or a sharpe of 5 is just not the same thing
[2016-12-13 01:15:19] rapidtrades : i prefer a simpler measure of return vs max DD
[2016-12-13 01:24:17] rapidtrades : PBOC sets USD/CNY central rate at 6.8934 (vs. yesterday at 6.9086)
[2016-12-13 01:24:41] rapidtrades : offshore rate up to 6.9250 tho...cos why not
[2016-12-13 01:26:39] arbitrage001 : back from breakfast
[2016-12-13 01:26:53] Rado : PBOC should just remove the central rate
[2016-12-13 01:27:19] arbitrage001 : pboc should let market decide rate
[2016-12-13 01:28:15] KingTuna : $1600 then down to $600
[2016-12-13 01:28:43] arbitrage001 : 800 then 100
[2016-12-13 01:28:50] Rado : lockhedge: hey
[2016-12-13 01:29:19] KingTuna : Guessing then guessing
[2016-12-13 01:29:28] KingTuna : Sometimes charts dont tell the whole story
[2016-12-13 01:29:48] rapidtrades : 50 TONIGHT
[2016-12-13 01:29:57] arbitrage001 : i dont use chart when i make trade decision
[2016-12-13 01:29:59] Rado : 0.0001
[2016-12-13 01:30:01] rapidtrades : 50 YUAN
[2016-12-13 01:30:08] lockhedge : Rado: hi
[2016-12-13 01:30:11] rapidtrades : so $7.22
[2016-12-13 01:30:18] rapidtrades : TONIGHT
[2016-12-13 01:30:28] lockhedge : Rado: did you start market making?
[2016-12-13 01:30:28] laisee : 7.88 is a better nunber
[2016-12-13 01:30:33] Rado : lockhedge: what do you use to start back your bot if it shuts down in case of an error
[2016-12-13 01:30:44] rapidtrades : $6.66 confirmed, the devil hates bitcoin
[2016-12-13 01:30:46] Rado : lockhedge: I am testing the bot
[2016-12-13 01:31:11] arbitrage001 : Rado: rado, did you figure out how to fetch currennt position when bot start?
[2016-12-13 01:31:17] arbitrage001 : and trade history
[2016-12-13 01:31:17] laisee : given its most popular use cases , devil loves BTC
[2016-12-13 01:31:47] Rado : arbitrage001: sample bot already knows what your current position is
[2016-12-13 01:31:50] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-12-13 01:32:07] arbitrage001 : Rado: is it? let me check again
[2016-12-13 01:33:46] lockhedge : Rado: i'm using a strange method. a cron job that constantly tries to restart different processes in combination with a perl script called "solo" that ensures that every process only runs once
[2016-12-13 01:34:12] Rado : lockhedge: :-)
[2016-12-13 01:34:13] Rado : cool
[2016-12-13 01:34:21] lockhedge : Rado: https://blog.josephscott.org/2011/09/26/solo/
[2016-12-13 01:34:30] Rado : I will write a shell script to check
[2016-12-13 01:34:37] arbitrage001 : Rado: not true
[2016-12-13 01:34:46] sleger : pump
[2016-12-13 01:34:50] arbitrage001 : if you restart bot, positiion is 0
[2016-12-13 01:34:56] arbitrage001 : current position
[2016-12-13 01:35:21] arbitrage001 : sleger: any tips to become rich like you?
[2016-12-13 01:35:38] sleger : 1. dont listen to lockhedge
[2016-12-13 01:35:51] Rado : lockhedge: Thanks
[2016-12-13 01:35:56] arbitrage001 : well, i need to follow people better than me
[2016-12-13 01:36:00] arbitrage001 : even if slightly
[2016-12-13 01:36:30] Rado : arbitrage001: INFO - market_maker - Current Contract Position: -8220
[2016-12-13 01:36:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10000 @ 779.52
[2016-12-13 01:36:42] Rado : it knows what your current position is
[2016-12-13 01:36:47] Rado : not sure what you are using
[2016-12-13 01:36:52] arbitrage001 : Rado: this is after you restart the bot?
[2016-12-13 01:37:00] Rado : yes
[2016-12-13 01:37:15] mjones : lol and btc goes back up. still not a new high though in china
[2016-12-13 01:37:15] Rado : I stop and start
[2016-12-13 01:37:28] Rado : and it cancels open orders and then adds them back in
[2016-12-13 01:38:30] arbitrage001 : Rado: is there a method to fetch previous active orders?
[2016-12-13 01:38:49] arbitrage001 : will need those order on the book from previous trades
[2016-12-13 01:38:52] mjones : new high on xbtz16
[2016-12-13 01:39:35] Rado : arbitrage001: you don't want old unfilled orders
[2016-12-13 01:39:53] Rado : the bot will re calculate the new orders based on the current prices
[2016-12-13 01:40:26] arbitrage001 : Rado: my algo should keep those unfilled one
[2016-12-13 01:40:49] Rado : then you need to save them somewhere
[2016-12-13 01:40:50] arbitrage001 : maybe i should remove the cancel all order
[2016-12-13 01:40:59] arbitrage001 : and remove reset method
[2016-12-13 01:41:20] Rado : arbitrage001: are you building a market maker bot or something else?
[2016-12-13 01:41:34] arbitrage001 : Rado: marker maker, a conservative one
[2016-12-13 01:41:49] arbitrage001 : when trade price deviate a lot from market price
[2016-12-13 01:41:54] arbitrage001 : seen it happen a lot here
[2016-12-13 01:42:05] Rado : arbitrage001: not sure how you do a conservative market maker
[2016-12-13 01:42:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 1500 @ 0.001226
[2016-12-13 01:42:14] sleger : Rado: 12$ spread
[2016-12-13 01:42:16] Rado : you need to "make" the market
[2016-12-13 01:42:41] Rado : sleger: then you will now make much money
[2016-12-13 01:42:54] arbitrage001 : Rado: he is making a lot
[2016-12-13 01:42:56] sleger : Rado: tell that to arb101
[2016-12-13 01:43:20] Rado : sleger: he runs a $12 spread?
[2016-12-13 01:43:33] sleger : thats what he means by conservative
[2016-12-13 01:43:36] sleger : i bet
[2016-12-13 01:43:41] Rado : probably
[2016-12-13 01:43:45] arbitrage001 : sleger: not 12 dolalrs lol
[2016-12-13 01:43:48] angela : do you have the branch in China?
[2016-12-13 01:43:50] Rado : not sure if it will work at all
[2016-12-13 01:43:51] sleger : yes but not 1 either
[2016-12-13 01:44:02] arbitrage001 : sleger: 0.5% to 1% would be nice
[2016-12-13 01:44:03] sleger : angela: angela, will you be my 2nd wife ?
[2016-12-13 01:44:13] Rado : lol
[2016-12-13 01:44:24] angela : what?!
[2016-12-13 01:44:28] sleger : yes
[2016-12-13 01:44:29] sleger : 2nd
[2016-12-13 01:44:33] sleger : already have Adriana
[2016-12-13 01:44:45] sleger : i just want all the girls from the trollbox
[2016-12-13 01:45:08] arbitrage001 : will you spare your bot for your wife here?
[2016-12-13 01:45:14] sleger : Tetsuo: i saw her first
[2016-12-13 01:45:29] Rado : angela: where are you from?
[2016-12-13 01:45:43] sleger : angela: he is poor dont listen to him
[2016-12-13 01:45:52] Rado : I should pick a female name on my mm bot account
[2016-12-13 01:45:53] angela : I don't want to be anybody's wife here
[2016-12-13 01:46:07] arbitrage001 : angela: poor men have good heart
[2016-12-13 01:46:25] arbitrage001 : angela: rich dude will leave you the moment he see another pretty girl
[2016-12-13 01:46:25] sleger : i sorry you dont have a choice
[2016-12-13 01:46:28] sleger : thats the rule here
[2016-12-13 01:46:35] angela : do the Bitmex have Chinese branches?
[2016-12-13 01:46:50] arbitrage001 : angela: check the chinese tab on trollbox
[2016-12-13 01:46:56] sleger : only cseychelles
[2016-12-13 01:46:59] arbitrage001 : angela: are you a real girl?
[2016-12-13 01:47:15] arbitrage001 : or a dude using girl name?
[2016-12-13 01:47:37] sleger : angela, you smell nice :D
[2016-12-13 01:48:01] sleger : since you came here
[2016-12-13 01:48:07] angela : does that matter?
[2016-12-13 01:48:09] Rado : angela: they have an office in Honk Kong
[2016-12-13 01:48:11] sleger : that old odor of poor dudes faded away
[2016-12-13 01:48:20] angela : I am just a new trader here
[2016-12-13 01:48:26] sleger : yes it does matter
[2016-12-13 01:48:31] Rado : angela: good luck
[2016-12-13 01:48:39] sleger : only Arthur likes ladyboys
[2016-12-13 01:48:40] Rado : don't get REKT
[2016-12-13 01:49:12] laisee : and don't beleive the smooth talkers in troll box
[2016-12-13 01:49:26] Rado : dinner
[2016-12-13 01:49:29] Rado : see ya punks later
[2016-12-13 01:49:45] Rado : premium coming back to swap
[2016-12-13 01:49:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 500 @ 792.39
[2016-12-13 01:49:52] mjones : yay new high okcoin
[2016-12-13 01:50:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 15 @ 793.41
[2016-12-13 01:50:14] Coconuter : boom
[2016-12-13 01:50:24] angela : nobody answers me
[2016-12-13 01:50:28] mjones : 50 cny from new high in china
[2016-12-13 01:50:29] angela : in Chinese
[2016-12-13 01:50:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 70000 @ 796.47 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-13 01:50:33] Coconuter : 3000U$ by january 2017
[2016-12-13 01:50:36] sleger : angela: what do you need my love ?
[2016-12-13 01:50:42] mjones : 35 cny now
[2016-12-13 01:50:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 50300 @ 781.27 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-13 01:51:00] angela : I want to know is there any branch for them in China
[2016-12-13 01:51:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 3000 @ 797.72
[2016-12-13 01:51:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 75000 @ 798.49 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-13 01:51:02] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2016-12-13 01:51:05] angela : I am in China now
[2016-12-13 01:51:13] sleger : angela: what do you mean by branch ?
[2016-12-13 01:51:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 8500 @ 798.79
[2016-12-13 01:51:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 16101 @ 799.16
[2016-12-13 01:51:49] mjones : lets pump to infinity btc
[2016-12-13 01:52:13] l3f : liquidations pushed Z16 to 800 lol
[2016-12-13 01:52:16] Coconuter : wait the big push is coming
[2016-12-13 01:52:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 300 @ 0.010040
[2016-12-13 01:52:32] angela : I mean Bitmex's branch office in CHina
[2016-12-13 01:52:47] lockhedge : angela: as Rado said, there head office is in Hong Kong, so it depends if you define HK as part of China
[2016-12-13 01:52:48] laisee : why would they need an office?
[2016-12-13 01:52:57] lockhedge : *their head office
[2016-12-13 01:53:24] javierstone : wow btc
[2016-12-13 01:53:46] sleger : @rapidtrades wake up
[2016-12-13 01:53:48] arbitrage001 : wow
[2016-12-13 01:54:07] angela : wow
[2016-12-13 01:54:16] arbitrage001 : 7 dolalrs move !
[2016-12-13 01:54:20] arbitrage001 : sky is falling
[2016-12-13 01:54:30] sleger : @anonymous789 : rekt ? good
[2016-12-13 01:54:50] bingbongfly : sleger: hahah ye poor guy, i feel for him
[2016-12-13 01:54:53] l3f : I didn't actually short btw
[2016-12-13 01:55:33] aethlios : what is happening?? going up?? who could think that?
[2016-12-13 01:56:06] arbitrage001 : almost 2% premium on z16
[2016-12-13 01:56:18] arbitrage001 : dont think it will last more than a few hours
[2016-12-13 01:57:44] arbitrage001 : Rado: this is what i am talking, when premium is high
[2016-12-13 01:58:04] arbitrage001 : MM bot should start kicking in the short and buy back later
[2016-12-13 01:58:14] mjones : i remember when xbtz16 was $6 higher. now it is $16 higher
[2016-12-13 01:58:30] l3f : mjones: I too remember yesterday
[2016-12-13 01:58:44] mjones : i'm glad
[2016-12-13 01:58:51] mjones : hopefully we all took advantage of it
[2016-12-13 01:59:08] mjones : another new high. !!
[2016-12-13 01:59:14] mjones : i cant handle all this winning
[2016-12-13 01:59:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 200 @ 782.79
[2016-12-13 01:59:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3 @ 782.78 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-13 01:59:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 14890 @ 782.66
[2016-12-13 01:59:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10 @ 782.87
[2016-12-13 02:00:01] l3f : oh lawd
[2016-12-13 02:00:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 30000 @ 783.12
[2016-12-13 02:00:54] l3f : it's time to all in boys
[2016-12-13 02:01:25] Coconuter : hulks green dildo on your face
[2016-12-13 02:01:27] sleger : hold on let me finish selling first
[2016-12-13 02:01:59] arbitrage001 : sleger: selling which one?
[2016-12-13 02:02:10] sleger : the bitcoinsss
[2016-12-13 02:02:35] Coconuter : where is Tetsudinha
[2016-12-13 02:02:46] Coconuter : that sold all his colds storage
[2016-12-13 02:02:59] arbitrage001 : vacation?
[2016-12-13 02:03:24] Coconuter : traders fake theyre vacation
[2016-12-13 02:05:17] mjones : short moar. fuel for the pump
[2016-12-13 02:05:32] aethlios : 70 usd daily candle ahead
[2016-12-13 02:05:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 400 @ 783.80
[2016-12-13 02:05:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 30000 @ 784.23
[2016-12-13 02:05:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 783.72
[2016-12-13 02:05:49] mjones : ready for the new 2016 high fomo
[2016-12-13 02:06:29] mjones : bitfinex last exchange to break 2016 high set many months ago. $3 away
[2016-12-13 02:06:49] arbitrage001 : too bad i have to go out
[2016-12-13 02:07:02] l3f : Quick opinion poll: how many in favour of moon?
[2016-12-13 02:07:14] l3f : aye/nay
[2016-12-13 02:07:18] arbitrage001 : l3f: most people here
[2016-12-13 02:07:31] arbitrage001 : l3f: people who trade yield and premium
[2016-12-13 02:07:38] arbitrage001 : or discount
[2016-12-13 02:07:40] sleger : arbitrage001: why most people here ?
[2016-12-13 02:08:07] arbitrage001 : sleger: people on trollbox who trade yield
[2016-12-13 02:08:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 23084 @ 785.31
[2016-12-13 02:08:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 17000 @ 785.27
[2016-12-13 02:08:34] sleger : cause on any future exchange for any long there is a short position
[2016-12-13 02:08:41] javierstone : dayummm btc
[2016-12-13 02:10:10] javierstone : 5520
[2016-12-13 02:11:02] Coconuter : moarrr
[2016-12-13 02:12:11] javierstone : okc is like the tip of your d that just wants to nut and btcc is your brain trying to slow u down and think about dumb shit so u don't nut too fast
[2016-12-13 02:12:34] l3f : javierstone: da fuck?
[2016-12-13 02:12:38] arbitrage001 : javierstone: what are you trying to say?
[2016-12-13 02:12:59] javierstone : when ur boning a hot girl and u wanna enjoy it but not nut too fast
[2016-12-13 02:13:14] javierstone : thats the dicotomy between okc and btcc right now
[2016-12-13 02:13:43] sleger : i thought it made sense from your first comment
[2016-12-13 02:13:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 4 @ 0.010640
[2016-12-13 02:13:56] javierstone : sleger: thanks
[2016-12-13 02:14:06] l3f : eth is such a joke
[2016-12-13 02:14:13] thiago : shorting eth pays <3
[2016-12-13 02:14:15] sleger : tim eto buy eth
[2016-12-13 02:16:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 500 @ 801.58
[2016-12-13 02:16:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCZ16`: Buy 4500 @ 5624.500000
[2016-12-13 02:17:09] thiago : i bet this another chinese fakeout LOL
[2016-12-13 02:17:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2000 @ 785.67
[2016-12-13 02:18:38] mjones : pump like there is no tomorrow
[2016-12-13 02:18:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 788.90
[2016-12-13 02:19:01] l3f : Ok it is time to go all in
[2016-12-13 02:19:05] l3f : sorry guys it's been a good run
[2016-12-13 02:19:05] arbitrage001 : go go !
[2016-12-13 02:19:09] l3f : 100x here we go
[2016-12-13 02:19:11] arbitrage001 : pump up the premium
[2016-12-13 02:19:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100 @ 790.12
[2016-12-13 02:20:50] l3f : 800 by dec? more like tomorrow amiright?
[2016-12-13 02:21:05] arbitrage001 : just 1% away
[2016-12-13 02:21:22] mjones : okcoin trying to dump after coming within 10 cny to a new high
[2016-12-13 02:21:42] arbitrage001 : need to step out
[2016-12-13 02:21:45] arbitrage001 : back in a few hours
[2016-12-13 02:21:51] arbitrage001 : have fun
[2016-12-13 02:22:42] mjones : bitfinex just 1 more buy away from a new high
[2016-12-13 02:22:56] mjones : buy it up $1 more
[2016-12-13 02:23:25] mjones : damn you bitfinex bearwhale
[2016-12-13 02:25:35] l3f : Tell me about the euphoria
[2016-12-13 02:27:41] l3f : Now is the time to enter the short
[2016-12-13 02:28:08] Coconuter : lets see how many shorters
[2016-12-13 02:28:14] Coconuter : have a stoploss at 805U$
[2016-12-13 02:28:23] Coconuter : please print it when it get there
[2016-12-13 02:28:26] Coconuter : ill go to sleep now
[2016-12-13 02:31:12] aethlios : shorters will go broke going against the trend.
[2016-12-13 02:36:20] mjones : where is btc going
[2016-12-13 02:36:25] l3f : mjones: down
[2016-12-13 02:36:36] jose : mjones: up
[2016-12-13 02:36:37] thiago : uh oh
[2016-12-13 02:36:37] mjones : someone plug the hole
[2016-12-13 02:36:54] l3f : it hit the upper channel
[2016-12-13 02:36:59] l3f : time for the correction
[2016-12-13 02:37:40] mjones : it's almost lunch time in china. i hear they are hungry for bitcoin. eta 2 hours
[2016-12-13 02:39:32] sleger : sorry, new corporate menu only contains ETC
[2016-12-13 02:42:00] l3f : sleger: and ZEC
[2016-12-13 02:42:02] l3f : and WIN
[2016-12-13 02:42:11] DangerandPlay : Is segwit going to be accepted?
[2016-12-13 02:42:17] l3f : DangerandPlay: never
[2016-12-13 02:42:46] sleger : there is about 5% chance
[2016-12-13 02:47:02] Zach : why can't you trade in USA
[2016-12-13 02:47:04] aethlios : is btc unlimited better?
[2016-12-13 03:27:58] arbitrage001 : back
[2016-12-13 03:28:06] arbitrage001 : price stabalize
[2016-12-13 03:28:12] arbitrage001 : premium still high
[2016-12-13 03:28:27] l3f : am I the only brave mf shorting right now?
[2016-12-13 03:28:36] arbitrage001 : slightly short here also
[2016-12-13 03:28:57] arbitrage001 : closes 20k short position while i step out
[2016-12-13 03:29:01] arbitrage001 : closed
[2016-12-13 03:29:21] arbitrage001 : still 16k contract to close if it move down a little
[2016-12-13 03:29:43] l3f : arbitrage001: you managed to short at the top?
[2016-12-13 03:29:43] l3f : damn nice move
[2016-12-13 03:29:55] arbitrage001 : l3f: not at the top lol
[2016-12-13 03:30:01] arbitrage001 : wish i am that super good
[2016-12-13 03:30:32] arbitrage001 : just scalping a little when premium went up too high
[2016-12-13 03:30:44] l3f : according to my own chart I should have started a short at 790
[2016-12-13 03:30:49] l3f : but it was a bit risky
[2016-12-13 03:31:10] arbitrage001 : both btc premium is still fairly high
[2016-12-13 03:31:20] cookielito : who thinks we are going back to 765?
[2016-12-13 03:31:25] arbitrage001 : if i have extra money, i would short to get the premium
[2016-12-13 03:33:04] l3f : cookielito: possibly even 750
[2016-12-13 03:33:25] cookielito : crazy
[2016-12-13 03:33:43] cookielito : Im tempted to stay short
[2016-12-13 03:33:49] Rado : why does everyone wants for BTC to go down?
[2016-12-13 03:33:52] Rado : I don't get it
[2016-12-13 03:34:08] l3f : Rado: so longs get fucked and we make money
[2016-12-13 03:34:21] Rado : go with the trend
[2016-12-13 03:34:58] l3f : Rado: sure but there is money to be made with short term corrections
[2016-12-13 03:35:28] arbitrage001 : Rado: cheaper to go long elsewhere at this price here
[2016-12-13 03:35:29] Rado : yes, but a lot harder than trading with the trend
[2016-12-13 03:35:45] l3f : not really, just have your stop losses set up
[2016-12-13 03:35:49] cookielito : more rewarding
[2016-12-13 03:35:51] l3f : and entries/exits
[2016-12-13 03:35:53] Rado : 0.8641 XBT (333.02%)
[2016-12-13 03:35:59] rms : remember that trading here is a zero sum game
[2016-12-13 03:36:08] rms : so nearly half the money has to be betting short
[2016-12-13 03:36:09] Rado : that's just on a small long
[2016-12-13 03:36:17] arbitrage001 : rms: trading anywhere is zero sum
[2016-12-13 03:36:24] rms : so half of people rooting for it can feel like everyone
[2016-12-13 03:36:30] rms : sure
[2016-12-13 03:36:40] Rado : rms: not exactly true
[2016-12-13 03:36:52] Rado : some people want to make BTC like me
[2016-12-13 03:36:57] Rado : some want to make USD
[2016-12-13 03:37:06] arbitrage001 : yeah, i want usd
[2016-12-13 03:37:12] arbitrage001 : not btc
[2016-12-13 03:37:13] Rado : so it's possible that both make money at the same time
[2016-12-13 03:38:20] arbitrage001 : still, the system as a whole is zero sum
[2016-12-13 03:38:32] arbitrage001 : huge sinking cost from mining everyday
[2016-12-13 03:38:37] Rado : in term of contracts yes
[2016-12-13 03:38:48] arbitrage001 : same amount of fiat infusion will need to offset the mining
[2016-12-13 03:39:04] arbitrage001 : othwerwise, price go down
[2016-12-13 03:40:29] cookielito : here we go gentlemen
[2016-12-13 03:40:47] l3f : the dump?
[2016-12-13 03:40:49] arbitrage001 : like to close my remaining short term short
[2016-12-13 03:41:01] cookielito : yeah
[2016-12-13 03:41:03] l3f : arbitrage001: aw I just started
[2016-12-13 03:41:09] cookielito : the dump proceeds
[2016-12-13 03:41:34] arbitrage001 : watching mutlple exchanges
[2016-12-13 03:41:35] l3f : well ATR is like $3
[2016-12-13 03:41:40] arbitrage001 : cant see how my short can go wrong
[2016-12-13 03:41:42] l3f : so this move is really nothing
[2016-12-13 03:41:56] cookielito : its just a move
[2016-12-13 03:42:01] cookielito : there will be more
[2016-12-13 03:42:15] cookielito : but yeah im long mid term
[2016-12-13 03:42:15] l3f : I want every overleveraged long to get liquidated
[2016-12-13 03:42:16] arbitrage001 : woots
[2016-12-13 03:42:20] arbitrage001 : 5k short close
[2016-12-13 03:42:21] l3f : haha
[2016-12-13 03:42:25] arbitrage001 : 11.2k remainin
[2016-12-13 03:42:30] cookielito : nice
[2016-12-13 03:42:35] l3f : I'm short 25k from 786
[2016-12-13 03:42:38] cookielito : im way in the black
[2016-12-13 03:42:49] arbitrage001 : woot
[2016-12-13 03:42:50] mjones : Dumping
[2016-12-13 03:42:51] l3f : plus that sweet interest money
[2016-12-13 03:42:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 781.64
[2016-12-13 03:42:54] arbitrage001 : another 5k short close
[2016-12-13 03:42:55] l3f : HAHA
[2016-12-13 03:42:58] l3f : it begins
[2016-12-13 03:43:01] l3f : lovely
[2016-12-13 03:43:01] arbitrage001 : 6.2k remaining
[2016-12-13 03:43:02] cookielito : longs are dead
[2016-12-13 03:43:05] arbitrage001 : all close
[2016-12-13 03:43:08] arbitrage001 : weee
[2016-12-13 03:43:11] cookielito : emotions dont go far here
[2016-12-13 03:43:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 43 @ 778.60
[2016-12-13 03:43:19] l3f : almost hit my target
[2016-12-13 03:43:21] Rado : ops
[2016-12-13 03:43:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 305 @ 786.66
[2016-12-13 03:43:21] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2016-12-13 03:43:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 95 @ 786.60
[2016-12-13 03:43:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 128356 @ 785.95 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-12-13 03:43:22] l3f : 777 is my close
[2016-12-13 03:43:26] cookielito : shit im way up
[2016-12-13 03:43:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7000 @ 775.03
[2016-12-13 03:43:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 40000 @ 775.84
[2016-12-13 03:43:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20 @ 775.26
[2016-12-13 03:43:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 9500 @ 784.27
[2016-12-13 03:43:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 100 @ 783.73
[2016-12-13 03:43:34] l3f : AWWW YYEWAH SON
[2016-12-13 03:43:37] arbitrage001 : btc is brutal
[2016-12-13 03:43:45] brouk : lol
[2016-12-13 03:43:46] cookielito : WOW
[2016-12-13 03:43:47] holistico : weeee
[2016-12-13 03:43:48] brouk : i like this
[2016-12-13 03:43:57] l3f : let this motherfucker burn
[2016-12-13 03:44:01] arbitrage001 : geez
[2016-12-13 03:44:25] cookielito : its going to keep going down boys
[2016-12-13 03:44:34] l3f : I fully closed
[2016-12-13 03:44:37] l3f : through that liquidation
[2016-12-13 03:44:38] mjones : that sucked balls
[2016-12-13 03:44:52] arbitrage001 : now need to wait for another pu
[2016-12-13 03:44:58] arbitrage001 : pump
[2016-12-13 03:45:03] Rado : any news?
[2016-12-13 03:45:08] l3f : Rado: no
[2016-12-13 03:45:10] l3f : I'm telling you
[2016-12-13 03:45:12] arbitrage001 : or if discount becomes large enough for me to go long
[2016-12-13 03:45:14] l3f : you gotta read teh charts
[2016-12-13 03:45:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 17109 @ 767.78
[2016-12-13 03:45:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 768.89
[2016-12-13 03:45:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 100000 @ 776.36 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-12-13 03:45:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 3000 @ 776.55
[2016-12-13 03:45:37] mjones : 1000000
[2016-12-13 03:45:37] l3f : Holy fuck the rekt
[2016-12-13 03:45:38] mjones : wtf
[2016-12-13 03:45:45] arbitrage001 : lol
[2016-12-13 03:45:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 765.92
[2016-12-13 03:45:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 50000 @ 775.81 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-13 03:45:52] arbitrage001 : shit
[2016-12-13 03:45:53] l3f : well I'm not mad that I closed early
[2016-12-13 03:45:56] brouk : holy shit
[2016-12-13 03:45:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 10000 @ 773.33
[2016-12-13 03:45:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100170 @ 764.26 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-12-13 03:46:06] javierstone : what is happening
[2016-12-13 03:46:12] javierstone : this is crazy
[2016-12-13 03:46:14] arbitrage001 : fatfinger
[2016-12-13 03:46:16] cookielito : Shouldnt have closed
[2016-12-13 03:46:17] cookielito : damn
[2016-12-13 03:46:18] l3f : javierstone: every long is getting their asses handed to to them
[2016-12-13 03:46:19] l3f : whales
[2016-12-13 03:46:20] arbitrage001 : chinese are fat
[2016-12-13 03:46:21] cookielito : woow
[2016-12-13 03:46:28] l3f : whales fuck the bears and the longs
[2016-12-13 03:46:58] Coconuter : good to long
[2016-12-13 03:47:11] laisee : its christmas time, for someone
[2016-12-13 03:47:21] arbitrage001 : dec future cheaper than swap just now lol
[2016-12-13 03:47:27] arbitrage001 : shit, too fast
[2016-12-13 03:47:36] Coconuter : it will come up as fast as it got down
[2016-12-13 03:47:43] j8 : yeah shakeout!
[2016-12-13 03:47:43] Coconuter : big volume manipulating
[2016-12-13 03:47:45] arbitrage001 : really need algo to manage trade like this
[2016-12-13 03:47:59] tb : well i just made 9 btc
[2016-12-13 03:48:05] l3f : tb: nice
[2016-12-13 03:48:18] cookielito : cheers
[2016-12-13 03:48:19] Coconuter : same candle as last 780 price
[2016-12-13 03:48:20] jose : dec 30 ?
[2016-12-13 03:48:29] Coconuter : midle midle
[2016-12-13 03:48:31] Coconuter : okcoin
[2016-12-13 03:48:55] laisee : happy xmas, tb
[2016-12-13 03:49:11] tb : eh, not that much 9btc
[2016-12-13 03:49:24] j8 : shit, $700 print on xbtz16.. didn't even see that happen
[2016-12-13 03:49:25] l3f : tb: how big is your account?
[2016-12-13 03:49:28] arbitrage001 : 9 btc is a year worth of salary at 3rd world
[2016-12-13 03:49:37] tb : i have like 500+ btc in my cold wallet
[2016-12-13 03:49:43] l3f : tb: lel
[2016-12-13 03:49:44] tb : 50 in trading
[2016-12-13 03:50:01] l3f : tb: nice
[2016-12-13 03:50:11] Rado : j8: 700?
[2016-12-13 03:50:11] arbitrage001 : j8: you MM dec contract?
[2016-12-13 03:50:26] j8 : Rado: yeah look at the chart