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[2016-12-12 22:42:51] asdfman : im the worst...
[2016-12-12 22:42:59] CaptainDean : asdfman: well it's great if you liquidation price "is not bad"
[2016-12-12 22:43:37] CaptainDean : asdfman: if you're cross and you can only select 100x leverage, that's pretty much ultimate high risk to get liquidated
[2016-12-12 22:43:40] asdfman : yeah it might be not bad untill its fucked
[2016-12-12 22:44:12] CaptainDean : asdfman: just close your position, take a lost and learn ;-)
[2016-12-12 22:44:31] asdfman : cant even select 100x
[2016-12-12 22:44:33] asdfman : nor 1x
[2016-12-12 22:44:39] asdfman : thats why i dont get it
[2016-12-12 22:46:38] asdfman : the wallet balance is different from margin balance though
[2016-12-12 22:46:53] asdfman : but -.-- available
[2016-12-12 22:47:01] BitMEX_Greg : asdfman: Hi can I help with your question?
[2016-12-12 22:47:02] asdfman : its the only pssition
[2016-12-12 22:47:14] asdfman : i fat fingered myself
[2016-12-12 22:47:31] asdfman : but i dont get what the effects of it wa
[2016-12-12 22:47:43] asdfman : as in what did i just do
[2016-12-12 22:47:54] asdfman : what type of position am i in now :P
[2016-12-12 22:47:56] asdfman : lol
[2016-12-12 22:48:03] asdfman : tragic :P
[2016-12-12 22:48:44] BitMEX_Greg : asdfman: You can view your positions in the "Positions" table underneath the Orderbook on the Trade Tab
[2016-12-12 22:49:19] asdfman : yeah it say cross.. i dont get what cross is as a standalone position
[2016-12-12 22:50:00] BitMEX_Greg : asdfman: Cross is a type of margining. It means that it uses all available margin to prevent liquidation. You can read more here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin
[2016-12-12 22:50:51] asdfman : so its not 100x nor 1x?
[2016-12-12 22:51:01] asdfman : nor any in the middle?
[2016-12-12 22:51:31] asdfman : its like saying "fine, you decide the margin"?
[2016-12-12 22:51:32] BitMEX_Greg : `Cross Margin, also known as “Spread Margin” is a margin method that utilises the full amount of funds in the Available Balance to avoid liquidations. Any Realised PNL from other positions can aid in adding margin on a losing position. This margin method is useful for users who are hedging existing positions and also for arbitragers that do not wish to be exposed on one side of the trade in the event of a liquidation.`
[2016-12-12 22:52:25] BitMEX_Greg : With cross margin you can achieve a leverage less than 1x if you have more funds than the total position
[2016-12-12 22:52:57] asdfman : and i can close as 100x for example? or what?
[2016-12-12 22:53:30] BitMEX_Greg : asdfman: You can adjust the leverage on your position by adjusting the slider on the left up to 100x if you wish.
[2016-12-12 22:53:32] asdfman : if it goes the direction i want and then close, what would i be closing?
[2016-12-12 22:54:00] asdfman : no i cant
[2016-12-12 22:56:25] BitMEX_Greg : asdfman: Let me take a look
[2016-12-12 23:03:35] BitMEX_Greg : asdfman: It seems your leverage is already on 100x given the amount of margin in your account already. You do not have sufficient margin in your account to select a leverage lower than this. If you wish to lower your leverage or liquidation price then I suggest to deposit more funds and top up your margin
[2016-12-12 23:04:32] asdfman : ok ,but why then does it say insufficient when I click on 100x ?
[2016-12-12 23:04:40] asdfman : if thats what i have
[2016-12-12 23:05:36] BitMEX_Greg : asdfman: You do not have any funds to change the leverage. Right now the price has moved down a bit from where you entered, as such your leverage is slightly higher than 100x. By attempting to click 100x it would mean lowering your current leverage
[2016-12-12 23:06:19] asdfman : ok
[2016-12-12 23:08:38] PARAFFIN : pump
[2016-12-12 23:11:00] KingTuna : My BTC liquidation price is $697.48, that is making me nervous.. Gonna add more funds
[2016-12-12 23:11:07] PARAFFIN : Boontjie: you made me watching rod stewar
[2016-12-12 23:12:42] rapidtrades : slow rally nearing end
[2016-12-12 23:13:05] rapidtrades : we're gonna drop like a rock once the idiot who's been slowly accumulating stops
[2016-12-12 23:13:43] rapidtrades : ur not being smart douche, you're just delaying the inevitable
[2016-12-12 23:14:28] sleger : we shall see
[2016-12-12 23:16:51] PARAFFIN : bullish evenging btcchina
[2016-12-12 23:18:55] BTCDJS : Is anyone packing a match or lighter?
[2016-12-12 23:19:01] BTCDJS : anyone?
[2016-12-12 23:20:06] PARAFFIN : BTCDJS: why
[2016-12-12 23:20:08] BTCDJS : ?
[2016-12-12 23:20:30] BTCDJS : Damn didn't work
[2016-12-12 23:21:24] Boontjie : PARAFFIN: my bad
[2016-12-12 23:21:59] KingTuna : 697 liquidation price risky
[2016-12-12 23:30:50] PARAFFIN : woot
[2016-12-12 23:35:03] arbitrage001 : good morning
[2016-12-12 23:35:06] arbitrage001 : how things go
[2016-12-12 23:35:22] arbitrage001 : btc only slightly higher
[2016-12-12 23:35:32] arbitrage001 : than before i sleep
[2016-12-12 23:37:01] sleger : the water is boiling
[2016-12-12 23:37:09] sleger : rapid the frog is not feeling it
[2016-12-12 23:38:26] PARAFFIN : arbitrage001: good mlrgning
[2016-12-12 23:39:31] BTCDJS : What ever happened to MR BLUE? REKT?
[2016-12-12 23:43:25] sleger : i banned him
[2016-12-12 23:45:01] mjones : waiting for the next leg up
[2016-12-12 23:45:27] mjones : china is close. bitfinex not even close
[2016-12-12 23:46:33] PARAFFIN : mjones: will come soon
[2016-12-12 23:58:27] l3f : BitMEX_Greg: will bitmex add entry orders? i.e a market/limit buy/sell when a price target is hit
[2016-12-13 00:02:34] BitMEX_Greg : l3f: Do you mean like a Stop Market or Stop Limit?
[2016-12-13 00:02:49] poly24 : zcash cracks me up. 1 or 2 "whales" trying desperately to prop up the priced of an overpriced coin
[2016-12-13 00:03:12] BitMEX_Greg : l3f: As we have these already, take a look over the Order Type FAQ: https://www.bitmex.com/app/orderTypeFAQ
[2016-12-13 00:18:35] rapidtrades : cmon lil birdie drop from the sky
[2016-12-13 00:20:27] BTCDJS : sleger: are you sure he didn't come back as a flammable liquid?
[2016-12-13 00:20:50] sleger : maybe, try to light him up
[2016-12-13 00:21:01] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: how low you expecting? Above 700 or below
[2016-12-13 00:21:19] rapidtrades : below 650
[2016-12-13 00:21:20] sleger : above 800
[2016-12-13 00:21:30] BTCDJS : 666
[2016-12-13 00:21:36] rapidtrades : 20% drop
[2016-12-13 00:21:53] sleger : rapidtrades: wanna bet on 666 before 800 ?
[2016-12-13 00:22:12] rapidtrades : no? that would be stupid
[2016-12-13 00:22:28] sleger : yes but i didnt become rich by magic
[2016-12-13 00:22:47] rapidtrades : maybe u just got lucky?
[2016-12-13 00:22:59] sleger : with a double digit sharpe ?
[2016-12-13 00:23:24] rapidtrades : that's not sustainable
[2016-12-13 00:23:35] BTCDJS : 666 is very probable
[2016-12-13 00:23:53] sleger : rapidtrades: it wouldnt even exist in the first place if it werent sustainable
[2016-12-13 00:24:02] sleger : virtu has a >100 sharpe
[2016-12-13 00:24:54] rapidtrades : well market making is a different beast and you're in no way guaranteed to keep up those returns
[2016-12-13 00:25:30] sleger : there is never any guarantee no
[2016-12-13 00:26:05] rapidtrades : I'm not saying you're not good but those skills don't necessarily translate into other areas of trading :)
[2016-12-13 00:27:09] sleger : well longer terms positions cant have a 2 digit sharpe thats for sure
[2016-12-13 00:27:12] sleger : like my eth position
[2016-12-13 00:27:18] lockhedge : sleger: virtu used to be very profitable when they were small but they don't have a 3 digit sharpe anymore
[2016-12-13 00:27:31] sleger : lockhedge: yes they do
[2016-12-13 00:27:45] sleger : unless it changed in last 6 months
[2016-12-13 00:28:14] rapidtrades : MM has high returns until it doesn't, its not very future proof imo
[2016-12-13 00:28:25] rapidtrades : competition is fierce
[2016-12-13 00:28:44] rapidtrades : so they could go from 100 sharpe to negative sharpe
[2016-12-13 00:28:51] sleger : yes it only works as long as you're somewhat better than most of the competition
[2016-12-13 00:29:05] lockhedge : sleger: last time i checked they made around 100% ROE p.a. with relatively high leverage
[2016-12-13 00:29:06] sleger : but between 15 sharpe and 100 sharpe there is almost no difference anyways
[2016-12-13 00:29:11] rapidtrades : its a lot harder game to play
[2016-12-13 00:29:15] sleger : you almost never hit a negative day
[2016-12-13 00:29:24] sleger : lockhedge: that doesnt tell you anything about sharpe
[2016-12-13 00:30:01] rapidtrades : there's lots of risks outside of trading too, like regulatory to exchange risk
[2016-12-13 00:30:03] sleger : if you make 0.001% every day exactly you have infinite sharpe
[2016-12-13 00:30:22] sleger : rapidtrades: yes and all pro MM keep adapting adjusting to these changes
[2016-12-13 00:30:37] rapidtrades : slippage costs, liquidity changes etc
[2016-12-13 00:30:41] rapidtrades : can't scale
[2016-12-13 00:30:49] rapidtrades : list goes on
[2016-12-13 00:32:26] rapidtrades : You seem well diversified with ur 50 apartments so it prolly doesn't matter if the run ends :)
[2016-12-13 01:00:20] lockhedge : sleger: when you devide something by 0 the result is actually undefined not "infinite", 0.001% daily would very likely lead to a negative sharpe ratio if you just add a very small standard deviation
[2016-12-13 01:00:46] sleger : no it wouldnt dumbass
[2016-12-13 01:01:05] sleger : a standard dev is a positive number, positive divided by positive is always positive idiot
[2016-12-13 01:01:09] sleger : lockhedge:
[2016-12-13 01:01:39] lockhedge : sleger: what risk free rate do you use?
[2016-12-13 01:02:06] sleger : consider 0.001% the return above risk free rate
[2016-12-13 01:04:37] sleger : if you had gone to school you would know that lim (0.001/x | x->0+) = +infinity
[2016-12-13 01:05:04] sleger : and also you would know that a standard deviation is by construction >= 0
[2016-12-13 01:12:07] lockhedge : sleger: don't want to discuss with you if "undefined" or "infinite" is correct. your thought "if you make 0.001% every day exactly you have infinite sharpe" is interesting, because it shows the weakness of the sharpe ratio model
[2016-12-13 01:12:50] sleger : its not a model its just a formula
[2016-12-13 01:13:12] sleger : and no it doesnt show its weakness because i just gave a stupid unrealistic example to start with
[2016-12-13 01:13:17] rapidtrades : its a formula u use to measure performance by though
[2016-12-13 01:13:48] sleger : its a good indicator of stability of performance
[2016-12-13 01:14:17] sleger : 30% return with a sharpe of 0.5 or a sharpe of 5 is just not the same thing
[2016-12-13 01:15:19] rapidtrades : i prefer a simpler measure of return vs max DD
[2016-12-13 01:24:17] rapidtrades : PBOC sets USD/CNY central rate at 6.8934 (vs. yesterday at 6.9086)
[2016-12-13 01:24:41] rapidtrades : offshore rate up to 6.9250 tho...cos why not
[2016-12-13 01:26:39] arbitrage001 : back from breakfast
[2016-12-13 01:26:53] Rado : PBOC should just remove the central rate
[2016-12-13 01:27:19] arbitrage001 : pboc should let market decide rate
[2016-12-13 01:28:15] KingTuna : $1600 then down to $600
[2016-12-13 01:28:43] arbitrage001 : 800 then 100
[2016-12-13 01:28:50] Rado : lockhedge: hey
[2016-12-13 01:29:19] KingTuna : Guessing then guessing
[2016-12-13 01:29:28] KingTuna : Sometimes charts dont tell the whole story
[2016-12-13 01:29:48] rapidtrades : 50 TONIGHT
[2016-12-13 01:29:57] arbitrage001 : i dont use chart when i make trade decision
[2016-12-13 01:29:59] Rado : 0.0001
[2016-12-13 01:30:01] rapidtrades : 50 YUAN
[2016-12-13 01:30:08] lockhedge : Rado: hi
[2016-12-13 01:30:11] rapidtrades : so $7.22
[2016-12-13 01:30:18] rapidtrades : TONIGHT
[2016-12-13 01:30:28] lockhedge : Rado: did you start market making?
[2016-12-13 01:30:28] laisee : 7.88 is a better nunber
[2016-12-13 01:30:33] Rado : lockhedge: what do you use to start back your bot if it shuts down in case of an error
[2016-12-13 01:30:44] rapidtrades : $6.66 confirmed, the devil hates bitcoin
[2016-12-13 01:30:46] Rado : lockhedge: I am testing the bot
[2016-12-13 01:31:11] arbitrage001 : Rado: rado, did you figure out how to fetch currennt position when bot start?
[2016-12-13 01:31:17] arbitrage001 : and trade history
[2016-12-13 01:31:17] laisee : given its most popular use cases , devil loves BTC
[2016-12-13 01:31:47] Rado : arbitrage001: sample bot already knows what your current position is
[2016-12-13 01:31:50] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-12-13 01:32:07] arbitrage001 : Rado: is it? let me check again
[2016-12-13 01:33:46] lockhedge : Rado: i'm using a strange method. a cron job that constantly tries to restart different processes in combination with a perl script called "solo" that ensures that every process only runs once
[2016-12-13 01:34:12] Rado : lockhedge: :-)
[2016-12-13 01:34:13] Rado : cool
[2016-12-13 01:34:21] lockhedge : Rado: https://blog.josephscott.org/2011/09/26/solo/
[2016-12-13 01:34:30] Rado : I will write a shell script to check
[2016-12-13 01:34:37] arbitrage001 : Rado: not true
[2016-12-13 01:34:46] sleger : pump
[2016-12-13 01:34:50] arbitrage001 : if you restart bot, positiion is 0
[2016-12-13 01:34:56] arbitrage001 : current position
[2016-12-13 01:35:21] arbitrage001 : sleger: any tips to become rich like you?
[2016-12-13 01:35:38] sleger : 1. dont listen to lockhedge
[2016-12-13 01:35:51] Rado : lockhedge: Thanks
[2016-12-13 01:35:56] arbitrage001 : well, i need to follow people better than me
[2016-12-13 01:36:00] arbitrage001 : even if slightly
[2016-12-13 01:36:30] Rado : arbitrage001: INFO - market_maker - Current Contract Position: -8220
[2016-12-13 01:36:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10000 @ 779.52
[2016-12-13 01:36:42] Rado : it knows what your current position is
[2016-12-13 01:36:47] Rado : not sure what you are using
[2016-12-13 01:36:52] arbitrage001 : Rado: this is after you restart the bot?
[2016-12-13 01:37:00] Rado : yes
[2016-12-13 01:37:15] mjones : lol and btc goes back up. still not a new high though in china
[2016-12-13 01:37:15] Rado : I stop and start
[2016-12-13 01:37:28] Rado : and it cancels open orders and then adds them back in
[2016-12-13 01:38:30] arbitrage001 : Rado: is there a method to fetch previous active orders?
[2016-12-13 01:38:49] arbitrage001 : will need those order on the book from previous trades
[2016-12-13 01:38:52] mjones : new high on xbtz16
[2016-12-13 01:39:35] Rado : arbitrage001: you don't want old unfilled orders
[2016-12-13 01:39:53] Rado : the bot will re calculate the new orders based on the current prices
[2016-12-13 01:40:26] arbitrage001 : Rado: my algo should keep those unfilled one
[2016-12-13 01:40:49] Rado : then you need to save them somewhere
[2016-12-13 01:40:50] arbitrage001 : maybe i should remove the cancel all order
[2016-12-13 01:40:59] arbitrage001 : and remove reset method
[2016-12-13 01:41:20] Rado : arbitrage001: are you building a market maker bot or something else?
[2016-12-13 01:41:34] arbitrage001 : Rado: marker maker, a conservative one
[2016-12-13 01:41:49] arbitrage001 : when trade price deviate a lot from market price
[2016-12-13 01:41:54] arbitrage001 : seen it happen a lot here
[2016-12-13 01:42:05] Rado : arbitrage001: not sure how you do a conservative market maker
[2016-12-13 01:42:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 1500 @ 0.001226
[2016-12-13 01:42:14] sleger : Rado: 12$ spread
[2016-12-13 01:42:16] Rado : you need to "make" the market
[2016-12-13 01:42:41] Rado : sleger: then you will now make much money
[2016-12-13 01:42:54] arbitrage001 : Rado: he is making a lot
[2016-12-13 01:42:56] sleger : Rado: tell that to arb101
[2016-12-13 01:43:20] Rado : sleger: he runs a $12 spread?
[2016-12-13 01:43:33] sleger : thats what he means by conservative
[2016-12-13 01:43:36] sleger : i bet
[2016-12-13 01:43:41] Rado : probably
[2016-12-13 01:43:45] arbitrage001 : sleger: not 12 dolalrs lol
[2016-12-13 01:43:48] angela : do you have the branch in China?
[2016-12-13 01:43:50] Rado : not sure if it will work at all
[2016-12-13 01:43:51] sleger : yes but not 1 either
[2016-12-13 01:44:02] arbitrage001 : sleger: 0.5% to 1% would be nice
[2016-12-13 01:44:03] sleger : angela: angela, will you be my 2nd wife ?
[2016-12-13 01:44:13] Rado : lol
[2016-12-13 01:44:24] angela : what?!
[2016-12-13 01:44:28] sleger : yes
[2016-12-13 01:44:29] sleger : 2nd
[2016-12-13 01:44:33] sleger : already have Adriana
[2016-12-13 01:44:45] sleger : i just want all the girls from the trollbox
[2016-12-13 01:45:08] arbitrage001 : will you spare your bot for your wife here?
[2016-12-13 01:45:14] sleger : Tetsuo: i saw her first
[2016-12-13 01:45:29] Rado : angela: where are you from?
[2016-12-13 01:45:43] sleger : angela: he is poor dont listen to him
[2016-12-13 01:45:52] Rado : I should pick a female name on my mm bot account
[2016-12-13 01:45:53] angela : I don't want to be anybody's wife here
[2016-12-13 01:46:07] arbitrage001 : angela: poor men have good heart
[2016-12-13 01:46:25] arbitrage001 : angela: rich dude will leave you the moment he see another pretty girl
[2016-12-13 01:46:25] sleger : i sorry you dont have a choice
[2016-12-13 01:46:28] sleger : thats the rule here
[2016-12-13 01:46:35] angela : do the Bitmex have Chinese branches?
[2016-12-13 01:46:50] arbitrage001 : angela: check the chinese tab on trollbox
[2016-12-13 01:46:56] sleger : only cseychelles
[2016-12-13 01:46:59] arbitrage001 : angela: are you a real girl?
[2016-12-13 01:47:15] arbitrage001 : or a dude using girl name?
[2016-12-13 01:47:37] sleger : angela, you smell nice :D
[2016-12-13 01:48:01] sleger : since you came here
[2016-12-13 01:48:07] angela : does that matter?
[2016-12-13 01:48:09] Rado : angela: they have an office in Honk Kong
[2016-12-13 01:48:11] sleger : that old odor of poor dudes faded away
[2016-12-13 01:48:20] angela : I am just a new trader here
[2016-12-13 01:48:26] sleger : yes it does matter
[2016-12-13 01:48:31] Rado : angela: good luck
[2016-12-13 01:48:39] sleger : only Arthur likes ladyboys
[2016-12-13 01:48:40] Rado : don't get REKT
[2016-12-13 01:49:12] laisee : and don't beleive the smooth talkers in troll box
[2016-12-13 01:49:26] Rado : dinner
[2016-12-13 01:49:29] Rado : see ya punks later
[2016-12-13 01:49:45] Rado : premium coming back to swap
[2016-12-13 01:49:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 500 @ 792.39
[2016-12-13 01:49:52] mjones : yay new high okcoin
[2016-12-13 01:50:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 15 @ 793.41
[2016-12-13 01:50:14] Coconuter : boom
[2016-12-13 01:50:24] angela : nobody answers me
[2016-12-13 01:50:28] mjones : 50 cny from new high in china
[2016-12-13 01:50:29] angela : in Chinese
[2016-12-13 01:50:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 70000 @ 796.47 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-13 01:50:33] Coconuter : 3000U$ by january 2017
[2016-12-13 01:50:36] sleger : angela: what do you need my love ?
[2016-12-13 01:50:42] mjones : 35 cny now
[2016-12-13 01:50:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 50300 @ 781.27 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-13 01:51:00] angela : I want to know is there any branch for them in China
[2016-12-13 01:51:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 3000 @ 797.72
[2016-12-13 01:51:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 75000 @ 798.49 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-13 01:51:02] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2016-12-13 01:51:05] angela : I am in China now
[2016-12-13 01:51:13] sleger : angela: what do you mean by branch ?
[2016-12-13 01:51:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 8500 @ 798.79
[2016-12-13 01:51:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 16101 @ 799.16
[2016-12-13 01:51:49] mjones : lets pump to infinity btc
[2016-12-13 01:52:13] l3f : liquidations pushed Z16 to 800 lol
[2016-12-13 01:52:16] Coconuter : wait the big push is coming
[2016-12-13 01:52:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 300 @ 0.010040
[2016-12-13 01:52:32] angela : I mean Bitmex's branch office in CHina
[2016-12-13 01:52:47] lockhedge : angela: as Rado said, there head office is in Hong Kong, so it depends if you define HK as part of China
[2016-12-13 01:52:48] laisee : why would they need an office?
[2016-12-13 01:52:57] lockhedge : *their head office
[2016-12-13 01:53:24] javierstone : wow btc
[2016-12-13 01:53:46] sleger : @rapidtrades wake up
[2016-12-13 01:53:48] arbitrage001 : wow
[2016-12-13 01:54:07] angela : wow
[2016-12-13 01:54:16] arbitrage001 : 7 dolalrs move !
[2016-12-13 01:54:20] arbitrage001 : sky is falling
[2016-12-13 01:54:30] sleger : @anonymous789 : rekt ? good
[2016-12-13 01:54:50] bingbongfly : sleger: hahah ye poor guy, i feel for him
[2016-12-13 01:54:53] l3f : I didn't actually short btw
[2016-12-13 01:55:33] aethlios : what is happening?? going up?? who could think that?
[2016-12-13 01:56:06] arbitrage001 : almost 2% premium on z16
[2016-12-13 01:56:18] arbitrage001 : dont think it will last more than a few hours
[2016-12-13 01:57:44] arbitrage001 : Rado: this is what i am talking, when premium is high
[2016-12-13 01:58:04] arbitrage001 : MM bot should start kicking in the short and buy back later
[2016-12-13 01:58:14] mjones : i remember when xbtz16 was $6 higher. now it is $16 higher
[2016-12-13 01:58:30] l3f : mjones: I too remember yesterday
[2016-12-13 01:58:44] mjones : i'm glad
[2016-12-13 01:58:51] mjones : hopefully we all took advantage of it
[2016-12-13 01:59:08] mjones : another new high. !!
[2016-12-13 01:59:14] mjones : i cant handle all this winning
[2016-12-13 01:59:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 200 @ 782.79
[2016-12-13 01:59:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3 @ 782.78 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-13 01:59:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 14890 @ 782.66
[2016-12-13 01:59:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10 @ 782.87
[2016-12-13 02:00:01] l3f : oh lawd
[2016-12-13 02:00:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 30000 @ 783.12
[2016-12-13 02:00:54] l3f : it's time to all in boys
[2016-12-13 02:01:25] Coconuter : hulks green dildo on your face
[2016-12-13 02:01:27] sleger : hold on let me finish selling first
[2016-12-13 02:01:59] arbitrage001 : sleger: selling which one?
[2016-12-13 02:02:10] sleger : the bitcoinsss
[2016-12-13 02:02:35] Coconuter : where is Tetsudinha
[2016-12-13 02:02:46] Coconuter : that sold all his colds storage
[2016-12-13 02:02:59] arbitrage001 : vacation?
[2016-12-13 02:03:24] Coconuter : traders fake theyre vacation
[2016-12-13 02:05:17] mjones : short moar. fuel for the pump
[2016-12-13 02:05:32] aethlios : 70 usd daily candle ahead
[2016-12-13 02:05:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 400 @ 783.80
[2016-12-13 02:05:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 30000 @ 784.23
[2016-12-13 02:05:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 783.72
[2016-12-13 02:05:49] mjones : ready for the new 2016 high fomo
[2016-12-13 02:06:29] mjones : bitfinex last exchange to break 2016 high set many months ago. $3 away
[2016-12-13 02:06:49] arbitrage001 : too bad i have to go out
[2016-12-13 02:07:02] l3f : Quick opinion poll: how many in favour of moon?
[2016-12-13 02:07:14] l3f : aye/nay
[2016-12-13 02:07:18] arbitrage001 : l3f: most people here
[2016-12-13 02:07:31] arbitrage001 : l3f: people who trade yield and premium
[2016-12-13 02:07:38] arbitrage001 : or discount
[2016-12-13 02:07:40] sleger : arbitrage001: why most people here ?
[2016-12-13 02:08:07] arbitrage001 : sleger: people on trollbox who trade yield
[2016-12-13 02:08:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 23084 @ 785.31
[2016-12-13 02:08:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 17000 @ 785.27
[2016-12-13 02:08:34] sleger : cause on any future exchange for any long there is a short position
[2016-12-13 02:08:41] javierstone : dayummm btc
[2016-12-13 02:10:10] javierstone : 5520
[2016-12-13 02:11:02] Coconuter : moarrr
[2016-12-13 02:12:11] javierstone : okc is like the tip of your d that just wants to nut and btcc is your brain trying to slow u down and think about dumb shit so u don't nut too fast
[2016-12-13 02:12:34] l3f : javierstone: da fuck?
[2016-12-13 02:12:38] arbitrage001 : javierstone: what are you trying to say?
[2016-12-13 02:12:59] javierstone : when ur boning a hot girl and u wanna enjoy it but not nut too fast
[2016-12-13 02:13:14] javierstone : thats the dicotomy between okc and btcc right now
[2016-12-13 02:13:43] sleger : i thought it made sense from your first comment
[2016-12-13 02:13:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 4 @ 0.010640
[2016-12-13 02:13:56] javierstone : sleger: thanks
[2016-12-13 02:14:06] l3f : eth is such a joke
[2016-12-13 02:14:13] thiago : shorting eth pays <3
[2016-12-13 02:14:15] sleger : tim eto buy eth
[2016-12-13 02:16:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 500 @ 801.58
[2016-12-13 02:16:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCZ16`: Buy 4500 @ 5624.500000
[2016-12-13 02:17:09] thiago : i bet this another chinese fakeout LOL
[2016-12-13 02:17:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2000 @ 785.67
[2016-12-13 02:18:38] mjones : pump like there is no tomorrow
[2016-12-13 02:18:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 788.90
[2016-12-13 02:19:01] l3f : Ok it is time to go all in
[2016-12-13 02:19:05] l3f : sorry guys it's been a good run
[2016-12-13 02:19:05] arbitrage001 : go go !
[2016-12-13 02:19:09] l3f : 100x here we go
[2016-12-13 02:19:11] arbitrage001 : pump up the premium
[2016-12-13 02:19:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100 @ 790.12
[2016-12-13 02:20:50] l3f : 800 by dec? more like tomorrow amiright?
[2016-12-13 02:21:05] arbitrage001 : just 1% away
[2016-12-13 02:21:22] mjones : okcoin trying to dump after coming within 10 cny to a new high
[2016-12-13 02:21:42] arbitrage001 : need to step out
[2016-12-13 02:21:45] arbitrage001 : back in a few hours
[2016-12-13 02:21:51] arbitrage001 : have fun
[2016-12-13 02:22:42] mjones : bitfinex just 1 more buy away from a new high
[2016-12-13 02:22:56] mjones : buy it up $1 more
[2016-12-13 02:23:25] mjones : damn you bitfinex bearwhale
[2016-12-13 02:25:35] l3f : Tell me about the euphoria
[2016-12-13 02:27:41] l3f : Now is the time to enter the short
[2016-12-13 02:28:08] Coconuter : lets see how many shorters
[2016-12-13 02:28:14] Coconuter : have a stoploss at 805U$
[2016-12-13 02:28:23] Coconuter : please print it when it get there
[2016-12-13 02:28:26] Coconuter : ill go to sleep now
[2016-12-13 02:31:12] aethlios : shorters will go broke going against the trend.
[2016-12-13 02:36:20] mjones : where is btc going
[2016-12-13 02:36:25] l3f : mjones: down
[2016-12-13 02:36:36] jose : mjones: up
[2016-12-13 02:36:37] thiago : uh oh
[2016-12-13 02:36:37] mjones : someone plug the hole
[2016-12-13 02:36:54] l3f : it hit the upper channel
[2016-12-13 02:36:59] l3f : time for the correction
[2016-12-13 02:37:40] mjones : it's almost lunch time in china. i hear they are hungry for bitcoin. eta 2 hours
[2016-12-13 02:39:32] sleger : sorry, new corporate menu only contains ETC
[2016-12-13 02:42:00] l3f : sleger: and ZEC
[2016-12-13 02:42:02] l3f : and WIN
[2016-12-13 02:42:11] DangerandPlay : Is segwit going to be accepted?
[2016-12-13 02:42:17] l3f : DangerandPlay: never
[2016-12-13 02:42:46] sleger : there is about 5% chance
[2016-12-13 02:47:02] Zach : why can't you trade in USA
[2016-12-13 02:47:04] aethlios : is btc unlimited better?
[2016-12-13 03:27:58] arbitrage001 : back
[2016-12-13 03:28:06] arbitrage001 : price stabalize
[2016-12-13 03:28:12] arbitrage001 : premium still high
[2016-12-13 03:28:27] l3f : am I the only brave mf shorting right now?
[2016-12-13 03:28:36] arbitrage001 : slightly short here also
[2016-12-13 03:28:57] arbitrage001 : closes 20k short position while i step out
[2016-12-13 03:29:01] arbitrage001 : closed
[2016-12-13 03:29:21] arbitrage001 : still 16k contract to close if it move down a little
[2016-12-13 03:29:43] l3f : arbitrage001: you managed to short at the top?
[2016-12-13 03:29:43] l3f : damn nice move
[2016-12-13 03:29:55] arbitrage001 : l3f: not at the top lol
[2016-12-13 03:30:01] arbitrage001 : wish i am that super good
[2016-12-13 03:30:32] arbitrage001 : just scalping a little when premium went up too high
[2016-12-13 03:30:44] l3f : according to my own chart I should have started a short at 790
[2016-12-13 03:30:49] l3f : but it was a bit risky
[2016-12-13 03:31:10] arbitrage001 : both btc premium is still fairly high
[2016-12-13 03:31:20] cookielito : who thinks we are going back to 765?
[2016-12-13 03:31:25] arbitrage001 : if i have extra money, i would short to get the premium
[2016-12-13 03:33:04] l3f : cookielito: possibly even 750
[2016-12-13 03:33:25] cookielito : crazy
[2016-12-13 03:33:43] cookielito : Im tempted to stay short
[2016-12-13 03:33:49] Rado : why does everyone wants for BTC to go down?
[2016-12-13 03:33:52] Rado : I don't get it
[2016-12-13 03:34:08] l3f : Rado: so longs get fucked and we make money
[2016-12-13 03:34:21] Rado : go with the trend
[2016-12-13 03:34:58] l3f : Rado: sure but there is money to be made with short term corrections
[2016-12-13 03:35:28] arbitrage001 : Rado: cheaper to go long elsewhere at this price here
[2016-12-13 03:35:29] Rado : yes, but a lot harder than trading with the trend
[2016-12-13 03:35:45] l3f : not really, just have your stop losses set up
[2016-12-13 03:35:49] cookielito : more rewarding
[2016-12-13 03:35:51] l3f : and entries/exits
[2016-12-13 03:35:53] Rado : 0.8641 XBT (333.02%)
[2016-12-13 03:35:59] rms : remember that trading here is a zero sum game
[2016-12-13 03:36:08] rms : so nearly half the money has to be betting short
[2016-12-13 03:36:09] Rado : that's just on a small long
[2016-12-13 03:36:17] arbitrage001 : rms: trading anywhere is zero sum
[2016-12-13 03:36:24] rms : so half of people rooting for it can feel like everyone
[2016-12-13 03:36:30] rms : sure
[2016-12-13 03:36:40] Rado : rms: not exactly true
[2016-12-13 03:36:52] Rado : some people want to make BTC like me
[2016-12-13 03:36:57] Rado : some want to make USD
[2016-12-13 03:37:06] arbitrage001 : yeah, i want usd
[2016-12-13 03:37:12] arbitrage001 : not btc
[2016-12-13 03:37:13] Rado : so it's possible that both make money at the same time
[2016-12-13 03:38:20] arbitrage001 : still, the system as a whole is zero sum
[2016-12-13 03:38:32] arbitrage001 : huge sinking cost from mining everyday
[2016-12-13 03:38:37] Rado : in term of contracts yes
[2016-12-13 03:38:48] arbitrage001 : same amount of fiat infusion will need to offset the mining
[2016-12-13 03:39:04] arbitrage001 : othwerwise, price go down
[2016-12-13 03:40:29] cookielito : here we go gentlemen
[2016-12-13 03:40:47] l3f : the dump?
[2016-12-13 03:40:49] arbitrage001 : like to close my remaining short term short
[2016-12-13 03:41:01] cookielito : yeah
[2016-12-13 03:41:03] l3f : arbitrage001: aw I just started
[2016-12-13 03:41:09] cookielito : the dump proceeds
[2016-12-13 03:41:34] arbitrage001 : watching mutlple exchanges
[2016-12-13 03:41:35] l3f : well ATR is like $3
[2016-12-13 03:41:40] arbitrage001 : cant see how my short can go wrong
[2016-12-13 03:41:42] l3f : so this move is really nothing
[2016-12-13 03:41:56] cookielito : its just a move
[2016-12-13 03:42:01] cookielito : there will be more
[2016-12-13 03:42:15] cookielito : but yeah im long mid term
[2016-12-13 03:42:15] l3f : I want every overleveraged long to get liquidated
[2016-12-13 03:42:16] arbitrage001 : woots
[2016-12-13 03:42:20] arbitrage001 : 5k short close
[2016-12-13 03:42:21] l3f : haha
[2016-12-13 03:42:25] arbitrage001 : 11.2k remainin
[2016-12-13 03:42:30] cookielito : nice
[2016-12-13 03:42:35] l3f : I'm short 25k from 786
[2016-12-13 03:42:38] cookielito : im way in the black
[2016-12-13 03:42:49] arbitrage001 : woot
[2016-12-13 03:42:50] mjones : Dumping
[2016-12-13 03:42:51] l3f : plus that sweet interest money
[2016-12-13 03:42:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 781.64
[2016-12-13 03:42:54] arbitrage001 : another 5k short close
[2016-12-13 03:42:55] l3f : HAHA
[2016-12-13 03:42:58] l3f : it begins
[2016-12-13 03:43:01] l3f : lovely
[2016-12-13 03:43:01] arbitrage001 : 6.2k remaining
[2016-12-13 03:43:02] cookielito : longs are dead
[2016-12-13 03:43:05] arbitrage001 : all close
[2016-12-13 03:43:08] arbitrage001 : weee
[2016-12-13 03:43:11] cookielito : emotions dont go far here
[2016-12-13 03:43:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 43 @ 778.60
[2016-12-13 03:43:19] l3f : almost hit my target
[2016-12-13 03:43:21] Rado : ops
[2016-12-13 03:43:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 305 @ 786.66
[2016-12-13 03:43:21] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2016-12-13 03:43:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 95 @ 786.60
[2016-12-13 03:43:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 128356 @ 785.95 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-12-13 03:43:22] l3f : 777 is my close
[2016-12-13 03:43:26] cookielito : shit im way up
[2016-12-13 03:43:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7000 @ 775.03
[2016-12-13 03:43:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 40000 @ 775.84
[2016-12-13 03:43:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20 @ 775.26
[2016-12-13 03:43:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 9500 @ 784.27
[2016-12-13 03:43:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 100 @ 783.73
[2016-12-13 03:43:34] l3f : AWWW YYEWAH SON
[2016-12-13 03:43:37] arbitrage001 : btc is brutal
[2016-12-13 03:43:45] brouk : lol
[2016-12-13 03:43:46] cookielito : WOW
[2016-12-13 03:43:47] holistico : weeee
[2016-12-13 03:43:48] brouk : i like this
[2016-12-13 03:43:57] l3f : let this motherfucker burn
[2016-12-13 03:44:01] arbitrage001 : geez
[2016-12-13 03:44:25] cookielito : its going to keep going down boys
[2016-12-13 03:44:34] l3f : I fully closed
[2016-12-13 03:44:37] l3f : through that liquidation
[2016-12-13 03:44:38] mjones : that sucked balls
[2016-12-13 03:44:52] arbitrage001 : now need to wait for another pu
[2016-12-13 03:44:58] arbitrage001 : pump
[2016-12-13 03:45:03] Rado : any news?
[2016-12-13 03:45:08] l3f : Rado: no
[2016-12-13 03:45:10] l3f : I'm telling you
[2016-12-13 03:45:12] arbitrage001 : or if discount becomes large enough for me to go long
[2016-12-13 03:45:14] l3f : you gotta read teh charts
[2016-12-13 03:45:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 17109 @ 767.78
[2016-12-13 03:45:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 768.89
[2016-12-13 03:45:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 100000 @ 776.36 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-12-13 03:45:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 3000 @ 776.55
[2016-12-13 03:45:37] mjones : 1000000