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[2016-12-11 20:38:16] Tetsuo : ETC "a true altruistic alternative"
[2016-12-11 20:39:42] Tetsuo : ETC " This is for the coiners"
[2016-12-11 21:03:08] anonymous789 : etc was the best business decision poloniex ever made
[2016-12-11 21:04:48] thiago : WAKE THE FUCK UP CHINESE DING DONGG
[2016-12-11 21:05:43] thiago : testsuo go on the street and start hitting the cooking pans lol
[2016-12-11 21:24:03] rapidtrades : wtf is this bullshit man
[2016-12-11 21:37:11] Volmetlicht : can i get the night vision more dark? still to bright
[2016-12-11 21:42:02] Tetsuo : Volmetlicht: time to sober up or wear some sunglasses u fukkin drughead
[2016-12-11 21:42:36] Volmetlicht : its a power thing u moron
[2016-12-11 21:43:06] BTCDJS : Volmetlicht: turn the brightness of your monitor down
[2016-12-11 21:43:08] Tetsuo : i know , those dealers promise unlimited energy, but in the end you´re just fukked
[2016-12-11 21:43:35] Volmetlicht : i wish i was fucked, hard
[2016-12-11 21:43:48] Volmetlicht : haha
[2016-12-11 21:44:00] Volmetlicht : mafkees
[2016-12-11 21:45:02] Volmetlicht : i dont need sunglasses for the poloniex night vision
[2016-12-11 21:47:08] Volmetlicht : BTCDJS: already at the lowest, it is not black but greyish poloniex is just fine
[2016-12-11 21:59:04] BTCDJS : Sunglasses then
[2016-12-11 22:00:53] Tetsuo : A punch in the face might also be helpful?
[2016-12-11 22:01:09] Volmetlicht : i think i will switch to other broker
[2016-12-11 22:01:34] Volmetlicht : unacceptable
[2016-12-11 22:01:56] Volmetlicht : just compare it with bitcoinwisdom. thats BLACK
[2016-12-11 22:02:08] Volmetlicht : carppy
[2016-12-11 22:03:04] Volmetlicht : Tetsuo: come over here then, lets see who kicks the hardest u mafkees
[2016-12-11 22:03:35] BTCDJS : Volmetlicht: your name means luminous
[2016-12-11 22:03:57] Volmetlicht : BTCDJS: burning now
[2016-12-11 22:04:46] BTCDJS : ??
[2016-12-11 22:05:12] BTCDJS : It means burning now?
[2016-12-11 22:05:33] Volmetlicht : ok this troll box was a ontimer, and maybe also bitmex, due to the grey night vision. bey
[2016-12-11 22:08:58] Tetsuo : this worked better than expected :relaxed: , don´t forget to tell all your friends
[2016-12-11 22:50:21] justinlooking : Volmetlicht: ymmv https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f5e08426ab808d1bd7575c3c25a1189e
[2016-12-11 22:51:17] Volmetlicht : no thanks
[2016-12-11 22:56:58] justinlooking : it is a bit pikey. i also have petitioned for dark theme to be black
[2016-12-11 23:46:51] mbaril : aahahha there is a bot that is bugged
[2016-12-11 23:52:50] Rado : mbaril: where?
[2016-12-11 23:53:06] mbaril : look at the last transaction here
[2016-12-11 23:53:11] mbaril : buy 1 sell 10
[2016-12-11 23:53:16] mbaril : every 5 sec
[2016-12-11 23:53:36] mbaril : not its over but that was funny
[2016-12-11 23:53:41] Rado : which instrument?
[2016-12-11 23:53:46] Rado : oh I see it
[2016-12-11 23:54:10] Rado : looks like all buys to me
[2016-12-11 23:55:04] Rado : but you are right it does look buggy
[2016-12-12 00:15:39] rms : what's up with the ETC premium here?
[2016-12-12 00:16:33] Rado : people are bullish
[2016-12-12 00:17:20] rms : i guess so... easy to buy ETC on spot though
[2016-12-12 00:17:40] sleger : with 20x leverage ?
[2016-12-12 00:17:50] rms : i guess not
[2016-12-12 00:18:14] sleger : you can be sure
[2016-12-12 00:18:26] rms : 20x leverage will kill you though if you drive it above spot, if the price swings back to the market price you're dead
[2016-12-12 00:20:37] Rado : sleger: hey man
[2016-12-12 00:20:42] Rado : how is it going
[2016-12-12 00:22:02] Gekko : These Trump comments gotta push down RMB....good for BTC
[2016-12-12 00:22:08] Rado : Oil short on this pop working great so far
[2016-12-12 00:26:38] rapidtrades : holy shit we're all dead
[2016-12-12 00:26:54] Rado : rapidtrades: why
[2016-12-12 00:27:14] rapidtrades : IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD MAN
[2016-12-12 00:27:26] Rado : rapidtrades: are you becoming Tesudo
[2016-12-12 00:27:46] Rado : or whatever his nick is
[2016-12-12 00:28:08] rapidtrades : Yuan opens weaker
[2016-12-12 00:30:22] Rado : 6.935
[2016-12-12 00:30:26] Rado : soon new highs
[2016-12-12 00:31:55] rapidtrades : doubtful
[2016-12-12 00:33:19] Rado : Stop hunt algo woken up in USDJPY
[2016-12-12 00:34:15] thiago : lol
[2016-12-12 00:34:24] thiago : tsunomon
[2016-12-12 00:35:03] j8 : sup bitmex
[2016-12-12 00:35:15] Rado : j8: hey
[2016-12-12 00:35:18] l3f : So somebody told me I will be liquidated for going long
[2016-12-12 00:35:24] Rado : where have you been
[2016-12-12 00:35:24] thiago : eth going up WTF
[2016-12-12 00:35:29] thiago : go downnnn mfucker
[2016-12-12 00:35:37] j8 : Rado: just lurking
[2016-12-12 00:36:10] thiago : i cant believe devs took fuck fucker fucking so srsly
[2016-12-12 00:36:30] Rado : pretty slow the last two days
[2016-12-12 00:37:09] j8 : yeah just chop until new quarterlies i think
[2016-12-12 00:37:45] Rado : I think we will see a move before then
[2016-12-12 00:38:01] j8 : a good shakeout would make the most sense
[2016-12-12 00:38:23] Rado : I think we might not get it
[2016-12-12 00:38:35] Rado : Everywhere I go people are calling for a drop
[2016-12-12 00:38:45] Rado : that tells me we might just shoot up
[2016-12-12 00:38:49] j8 : i know, this upward channel is pretty sturdy
[2016-12-12 00:45:53] j8 : if the yuan goes for new lows this week then we could break up pretty easily
[2016-12-12 00:47:17] mjones : etc dumping on polo
[2016-12-12 00:47:32] l3f : You'd think the dollar interest rate rise is already priced in
[2016-12-12 00:59:51] Gekko : would the last guy to sell their RMB please turn off the lights...
[2016-12-12 01:00:08] aethlios : 0.15% up usdcnh
[2016-12-12 01:00:41] aethlios : eur close to support 1.0538, below 1.05 doom for eurusd
[2016-12-12 01:00:48] Gekko : when trump is finished, is trading 7.5
[2016-12-12 01:04:45] l3f : anonymous789: where's my liquidation?
[2016-12-12 01:10:16] Rado : My prediction is that the FED will not raise rates and the USD will crash, BTC and Gold will jump
[2016-12-12 01:11:27] thiago : to the moon
[2016-12-12 01:16:11] aethlios : Rado: if usd crashes, yuan jumps and btc dumps. crazy but stronger usd means stronger btcusd
[2016-12-12 01:16:37] Rado : aethlios: I don't think the correlation is that simple
[2016-12-12 01:16:49] Rado : USD going down is good for BTC
[2016-12-12 01:17:17] Rado : but we will see when it happens
[2016-12-12 01:21:08] aethlios : if usd long term rates keep going up then fed will follow. ecb can't raise rates for next 2 years at least, so usd stronger. also trump's more domestic stimulation policies and trade wars with china will decrease trade deficit with china and make usd stronger. us also produces a lot of oil, so less usd floating abroad.
[2016-12-12 01:22:11] l3f : usd stronger => cny weakens => china pumps bitocin more
[2016-12-12 01:22:11] l3f : alternatively
[2016-12-12 01:22:16] l3f : usd stronger => btc weakens
[2016-12-12 01:22:29] l3f : => china pumps bitcoin more?
[2016-12-12 01:22:32] aethlios : china, because of trump, could see a decrease in exports and it's debt economy to go busty, so will pump new money to avoid deflation and recession.
[2016-12-12 01:29:11] Rado : what you guys mean is that central banking is fucked and BTC will go up either way
[2016-12-12 01:30:29] j8 : fiat is meant to go down. they are all going down, just some faster than others
[2016-12-12 01:32:14] aethlios : many factors except yuan can boost btc, like eurozone break etc.
[2016-12-12 01:37:14] Rado : j8: exactly
[2016-12-12 01:37:22] Rado : fiat is inflationary by design
[2016-12-12 01:37:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 481 @ 0.001206
[2016-12-12 01:37:34] Rado : BTC is deflationary
[2016-12-12 01:37:54] j8 : yep, we just have to stay alive in order to win
[2016-12-12 01:43:29] mjones : bitfinex going up a tiny bit
[2016-12-12 02:02:23] arbitrage001 : good morning, fellow trolls
[2016-12-12 02:02:39] arbitrage001 : how is the weather?
[2016-12-12 02:03:31] arbitrage001 : Rado: dont totally agree btc is deflationary
[2016-12-12 02:03:50] arbitrage001 : boom bust cycle at higher speed
[2016-12-12 02:04:08] arbitrage001 : until better technology comes along
[2016-12-12 02:25:27] Dtrade16 : Guys what are the orange trades on here?
[2016-12-12 02:25:30] Dtrade16 : I don't get it
[2016-12-12 02:42:36] l3f : I don't know how can anyone hate on "The Scoropion King"
[2016-12-12 02:42:44] l3f : such a great movie
[2016-12-12 02:43:22] arbitrage001 : l3f: really old movie, isnt it?
[2016-12-12 02:44:09] arbitrage001 : had good time watching it 1st time
[2016-12-12 02:44:23] arbitrage001 : 2nd or 3rd time, not so much
[2016-12-12 02:44:42] l3f : 2002 is really old now
[2016-12-12 02:44:51] arbitrage001 : yeah
[2016-12-12 02:44:53] l3f : oh you're talking about the super old one?
[2016-12-12 02:44:56] l3f : 1950s?
[2016-12-12 02:45:05] arbitrage001 : by standard, you are dinosaur by mentioning it
[2016-12-12 02:45:15] arbitrage001 : 2002 is really old
[2016-12-12 02:45:23] l3f : Some of the traders here weren't even born!
[2016-12-12 02:45:29] mjones : Go China
[2016-12-12 02:45:46] arbitrage001 : l3f: are you sure?
[2016-12-12 02:45:57] l3f : arbitrage001: esp rapidtrades
[2016-12-12 02:45:59] arbitrage001 : always thought everyone is should be 30+
[2016-12-12 02:46:35] l3f : arbitrage001: you must be 30+
[2016-12-12 02:46:38] arbitrage001 : trading synthetic products here are dangerous
[2016-12-12 02:46:43] arbitrage001 : l3f: yes
[2016-12-12 02:46:58] arbitrage001 : l3f: seen more than 2 mega boom bust cycles
[2016-12-12 02:47:00] l3f : I'm actually 12 btw
[2016-12-12 02:47:08] l3f : jk
[2016-12-12 02:47:36] arbitrage001 : l3f: 99% of the traders or normally business person do not surivive great bust
[2016-12-12 02:47:45] arbitrage001 : my observation
[2016-12-12 02:48:19] arbitrage001 : unless his parents/family bail them out
[2016-12-12 03:23:03] mbaril : do you guys think forcecoin will have a impact tomorrow ?
[2016-12-12 03:23:03] mbaril : :P
[2016-12-12 03:23:07] mbaril : ahaha
[2016-12-12 07:52:14] rapidtrades : mbaril: you can't force the coin!
[2016-12-12 08:26:55] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: feel the force rapid
[2016-12-12 08:28:10] BTCDJS : arbitrage001: So the government is like the banks parents/family?
[2016-12-12 08:29:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2 @ 769.73 :punch: :whale:
[2016-12-12 08:29:19] arbitrage001 : BTCDJS: i am not talking about crony type goverment
[2016-12-12 08:29:30] arbitrage001 : msot people in general
[2016-12-12 08:29:51] arbitrage001 : are not political connected
[2016-12-12 08:31:06] BTCDJS : arbitrage001: Did your mom help you out when you went bust?
[2016-12-12 08:31:20] arbitrage001 : i wish
[2016-12-12 08:31:33] arbitrage001 : have to start over like everyone else
[2016-12-12 08:31:55] BTCDJS : I got lucky
[2016-12-12 08:32:04] arbitrage001 : and starting over from scratch is not easy
[2016-12-12 08:32:22] BTCDJS : I believe you. I feel like I dodged a bullet
[2016-12-12 08:32:22] arbitrage001 : people who have negative wealth have it even harder
[2016-12-12 08:33:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 3000 @ 0.001253
[2016-12-12 08:38:55] l3f : 6 dollar premium on Z16
[2016-12-12 08:38:57] l3f : wtf is this bullshit
[2016-12-12 08:40:04] arbitrage001 : l3f: too high or too low?
[2016-12-12 08:40:35] l3f : low
[2016-12-12 08:40:49] arbitrage001 : then buy it up?
[2016-12-12 08:41:45] thomaskikansha : $8 for okc 3M
[2016-12-12 08:42:19] l3f : arbitrage001: I'm already over leveraged
[2016-12-12 08:42:32] l3f : not to mention it'll raise my entry price
[2016-12-12 08:42:49] arbitrage001 : contract will expire in 18 days
[2016-12-12 08:43:05] l3f : arbitrage001: Oh I know
[2016-12-12 08:43:09] arbitrage001 : around 1% premium is still fairly high
[2016-12-12 08:43:14] arbitrage001 : in my view
[2016-12-12 08:44:06] thomaskikansha : etc on the move
[2016-12-12 08:55:32] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: yes its for 18 days
[2016-12-12 08:56:09] arbitrage001 : @rapidtrades but cheaper than margin long on finex
[2016-12-12 08:56:21] arbitrage001 : so, traders need to judge
[2016-12-12 08:57:26] BW^- : what's an idiot's guide to doing variable-time hedges of Bitcoin against USD?
[2016-12-12 08:58:00] arbitrage001 : BW^-: easy way is to short same amount of btc using the future here
[2016-12-12 09:01:44] rapidtrades : time to rollover like a cheap ho bitcoin
[2016-12-12 09:01:59] arbitrage001 : are you short?
[2016-12-12 09:02:10] rapidtrades : here yes overall no
[2016-12-12 09:02:38] arbitrage001 : big rally will increase premium and funding
[2016-12-12 09:02:48] arbitrage001 : that will benefit people like me more
[2016-12-12 09:03:55] rapidtrades : i thought about just going short the swap and going on holiday
[2016-12-12 09:04:11] BW^- : arbitrage001: can you please explain in terms of operations/API calls how I need to do this?
[2016-12-12 09:04:50] rapidtrades : that will give me what 10-20% per annum?
[2016-12-12 09:05:09] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: hard to predict
[2016-12-12 09:05:17] arbitrage001 : what if we are in bear trend
[2016-12-12 09:05:23] BW^- : arbitrage001: so, I have X BTC here in my BTC wallet. i now like to keep those X BTC perfectly stable against the USD, so, at the future time when i'll end this, i'll either have more or less BTC, depending on how the USD developed in relation with the BTC.
[2016-12-12 09:05:27] arbitrage001 : you might end up paying 20%
[2016-12-12 09:05:50] rapidtrades : guess i gotta manage it
[2016-12-12 09:06:22] arbitrage001 : BW^-: both the swap and future here are usd synthetic
[2016-12-12 09:06:47] arbitrage001 : BW^-: if you have 1 btc, you can short 1btc amount of contract to have stable USD
[2016-12-12 09:07:10] arbitrage001 : future have predictable rate, where the swap is un-preditable
[2016-12-12 09:07:28] rapidtrades : futures generally pay less tho
[2016-12-12 09:07:42] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: but stable and predictable
[2016-12-12 09:07:47] arbitrage001 : swap, you might end up paying
[2016-12-12 09:08:03] rapidtrades : do u rotate?
[2016-12-12 09:08:11] arbitrage001 : of coourse
[2016-12-12 09:08:12] BitMEX_Wally : BW^-: you can use the API to submit a Sell order for XBTUSD, sending symbol: "XBTUSD", side: "Sell", simpleOrderQty: X
[2016-12-12 09:08:22] arbitrage001 : MM here probably make a killing rotating them both
[2016-12-12 09:09:14] rapidtrades : dont see how....if we rally both premiums/funding will go up
[2016-12-12 09:09:34] arbitrage001 : they can long future and short swap
[2016-12-12 09:09:45] BitMEX_Wally : You can also set leverage to 1x using the frontend or API, /9
[2016-12-12 09:09:56] BitMEX_Wally : , so you will never be liquidated
[2016-12-12 09:09:57] arbitrage001 : or short future and long swap
[2016-12-12 09:10:52] arbitrage001 : one side funding the other
[2016-12-12 09:12:48] BW^- : arbitrage001: what more currencies than USD are well supported, where's list? EUR? RMB?
[2016-12-12 09:13:07] arbitrage001 : BW^-: https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBCZ16
[2016-12-12 09:13:15] arbitrage001 : the new product rmb
[2016-12-12 09:13:28] arbitrage001 : and yen on the top of the window
[2016-12-12 09:36:44] BW^- : arbitrage001: wait, what more, RMB, YEN, USD, which more?
[2016-12-12 09:37:26] arbitrage001 : BW^-: are you log on bitmex?
[2016-12-12 09:37:41] arbitrage001 : the tab on the top have all the products and contracts
[2016-12-12 09:46:49] BW^- : arbitrage001: I see in the left column, "Contracts". it says "XBTUSD", "XBC (Bitcoin / Yuan)", "XBJ (Bitcoin / Yen)".
[2016-12-12 09:46:59] BW^- : arbitrage001: I don't see the word EUR, CHF, USD, or anything like that anywhere?
[2016-12-12 09:49:48] arbitrage001 : xbtusd is price quoted against usd
[2016-12-12 09:49:55] arbitrage001 : there is no eur or chf here
[2016-12-12 09:50:09] l3f : So yesterday some people in no uncertain terms said my long positon was going to get liquidated because of a 1% fakeout
[2016-12-12 09:50:15] l3f : fucking lol
[2016-12-12 09:52:27] rms : i mean we're all just staring at the 1M chart this could be nothing again...
[2016-12-12 09:52:57] BW^- : arbitrage001: aha. just for my navigation, what would be services where I could hedge the BTC against the EUR and more currencies?
[2016-12-12 09:53:37] arbitrage001 : BW^-: you can only hedge usd, yen and rmb here
[2016-12-12 09:53:59] BW^- : arbitrage001: ah i mean like, other businesses where I could?
[2016-12-12 09:54:08] BW^- : arbitrage001: anyhow - also, I could hedge USD against EUR elsewher.
[2016-12-12 09:54:25] rms : kraken ?
[2016-12-12 09:55:04] arbitrage001 : BW^-: in btc, you can try kraken for mroe currency pairs
[2016-12-12 09:55:32] arbitrage001 : BW^-: to hedge one currency against another currency, you should try discount or forex brokers in your country
[2016-12-12 09:57:53] BW^- : mm.
[2016-12-12 10:08:23] BW^- : arbitrage001: right.
[2016-12-12 10:08:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 260 @ 0.010780
[2016-12-12 10:08:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 7 @ 0.010850
[2016-12-12 10:12:46] BW^- : arbitrage001: for me to get the point
[2016-12-12 10:13:27] BW^- : arbitrage001: say that I have these X BTC now then, and I would like them to follow the USD value exactly, up to a future point at which I'll say "stop" and I would like to use my now-Y BTC (which will be higher or lower than X depending on how the BTC-USD value grew).
[2016-12-12 10:14:18] BW^- : arbitrage001: which are the total fees that BitMex will apply for deposit, start, per amount of time passed, end withdraw?
[2016-12-12 10:14:29] BW^- : arbitrage001: also, how many BTC do I need to deposit with BitMex?
[2016-12-12 10:14:52] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Wally: Are you still around?
[2016-12-12 10:15:28] arbitrage001 : BW^-: those details questions are better answer by bitmex staff
[2016-12-12 10:16:15] arbitrage001 : BW^-: should read:
[2016-12-12 10:16:17] arbitrage001 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT
[2016-12-12 10:17:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCZ16`: Buy 1355 @ 5486.200000
[2016-12-12 10:17:28] l3f : HAHA holy fuck
[2016-12-12 10:17:31] l3f : based china
[2016-12-12 10:17:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 74700 @ 785.86 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-12 10:17:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 30000 @ 783.25
[2016-12-12 10:17:32] REKT : :btc: :rocket: :crescent_moon:
[2016-12-12 10:17:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 55000 @ 783.45 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-12 10:17:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 50000 @ 784.16 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-12-12 10:17:41] l3f : You doubted me
[2016-12-12 10:17:58] l3f : +2.9464 XBT (27.96%)
[2016-12-12 10:17:59] arbitrage001 : l3f: on?
[2016-12-12 10:18:05] l3f : Check logs
[2016-12-12 10:18:13] arbitrage001 : premium too low?
[2016-12-12 10:18:31] l3f : Not you
[2016-12-12 10:19:41] arbitrage001 : go go !
[2016-12-12 10:19:51] arbitrage001 : i will rotate again
[2016-12-12 10:20:07] l3f : "[2016-12-11 10:28:59] anonymous789 : l3f: you will be liquidated soon enough"
[2016-12-12 10:22:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 33069 @ 786.70
[2016-12-12 10:24:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 500 @ 787.24
[2016-12-12 10:24:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 16500 @ 787.94
[2016-12-12 10:24:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCZ16`: Buy 3560 @ 5544.600000
[2016-12-12 10:24:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCZ16`: Buy 18 @ 5549.400000
[2016-12-12 10:24:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 200 @ 775.98
[2016-12-12 10:24:57] l3f : HOLY FUCK
[2016-12-12 10:25:01] l3f : FUCKKK
[2016-12-12 10:25:39] l3f : #rip
[2016-12-12 10:26:04] arbitrage001 : l3f: you going to take your profit?
[2016-12-12 10:26:20] arbitrage001 : or are you going to wait til the profit is gone?
[2016-12-12 10:26:37] BW^- : arbitrage001: can you give me your best guess?
[2016-12-12 10:26:47] arbitrage001 : BW^-: on?
[2016-12-12 10:26:55] BW^- : arbitrage001: the X BTC USD thing I just said
[2016-12-12 10:27:15] arbitrage001 : BW^-: you need to read the contract specification
[2016-12-12 10:27:25] arbitrage001 : BW^-: before you trade
[2016-12-12 10:27:33] billyboy402 : i am pretty sure bitmex has a bot that tell the market maker when user about to margin call
[2016-12-12 10:27:45] arbitrage001 : billyboy402: how so
[2016-12-12 10:28:04] arbitrage001 : why do they not rekt other using in house bot
[2016-12-12 10:28:13] arbitrage001 : and let other benefit
[2016-12-12 10:31:10] l3f : arbitrage001: I'm selling now
[2016-12-12 10:31:58] aethlios : the great march to previous ATH started. Long live the king btc.
[2016-12-12 10:32:03] mjones : Yes btc pumped
[2016-12-12 10:32:10] mjones : And i am long
[2016-12-12 10:33:39] aethlios : above 800 spot bulls will attack wit severe power force.
[2016-12-12 10:34:12] arbitrage001 : go premium go !
[2016-12-12 10:34:28] rms : this pump has been slow though
[2016-12-12 10:34:39] l3f : dat dislocation
[2016-12-12 10:34:40] mjones : Etc up too
[2016-12-12 10:34:40] arbitrage001 : less than 0.5% move?
[2016-12-12 10:34:52] rms : i'm praying for a week of gains of $20/day and no $100 gain days, at least for a little bit
[2016-12-12 10:35:09] rms : which i think makes us more likely to ultimately get higher...
[2016-12-12 10:35:24] mjones : $6 to $12 higher on xbtz16
[2016-12-12 10:35:29] arbitrage001 : less than 1% movement
[2016-12-12 10:35:36] arbitrage001 : and we all got excited
[2016-12-12 10:35:44] aethlios : brak out daily candle will have a 70 to 90 usd body.
[2016-12-12 10:35:56] mjones : I'm up 100% in my long
[2016-12-12 10:36:17] ett1 : big breakout if it clears 780
[2016-12-12 10:36:18] aethlios : stamp needs 2.7 usd more to make new high since summer high
[2016-12-12 10:36:48] aethlios : ett1: yes 780-800 strong resistance zone.
[2016-12-12 10:37:04] ett1 : it wants to break
[2016-12-12 10:37:53] arbitrage001 : just when i am about to go to bed
[2016-12-12 10:38:03] arbitrage001 : this happen
[2016-12-12 10:39:01] aethlios : needs to penetrate 780-800 zone with massive force. (force= volume). The largest battle will be the siege of 1,150-1,200 previous ATH. After that done, then the long march to 10,000 will begin.
[2016-12-12 10:39:55] ett1 : BTC was always going to go to 10,000. Breaking 800 is inevitable. looks like the time has come
[2016-12-12 10:40:11] +1 : aethlios: 10,000?
[2016-12-12 10:40:29] ett1 : 100 sounded silly
[2016-12-12 10:40:56] aethlios : this time maybe keep slowly up to 10,000 in 2 years. I don't think this time will be short and fast like 120 to 1,200. Now many exchanges also derivatives, so a more healthy and sustainable slow bull market to 10,000 (at least) in 2 years.
[2016-12-12 10:41:47] arbitrage001 : aethlios: have you ever seen a tree grow taller than sky?
[2016-12-12 10:42:13] aethlios : arbitrage001: not yet.
[2016-12-12 10:44:41] ett1 : ive watched my dick grow bigger than artibrage001's
[2016-12-12 10:45:02] arbitrage001 : ett1: i have small dick
[2016-12-12 10:45:15] arbitrage001 : most people is longer than mine
[2016-12-12 10:45:30] ett1 : hes 14
[2016-12-12 10:48:01] l3f : arbitrage001: I've fully closed
[2016-12-12 10:48:04] l3f : that 112k
[2016-12-12 10:48:14] arbitrage001 : l3f: nice profit
[2016-12-12 10:48:22] l3f : arbitrage001: aye
[2016-12-12 10:48:22] arbitrage001 : let me know next time you visit my town
[2016-12-12 10:48:29] arbitrage001 : dinner on you, i presume?
[2016-12-12 10:48:33] l3f : haha
[2016-12-12 10:48:59] ett1 : should let it ride!
[2016-12-12 10:49:10] ett1 : gonna get back in if it breaks 780?
[2016-12-12 10:49:11] l3f : ett1: that's gambling
[2016-12-12 10:49:26] l3f : heavy resistance at 777
[2016-12-12 10:49:29] l3f : it didn't break
[2016-12-12 10:49:34] l3f : it'll bounce off the top
[2016-12-12 10:49:38] Dtrade16 : Guys what is the difference between the red and green in the order book?
[2016-12-12 10:49:55] immackay : Dtrade16: what do you think
[2016-12-12 10:49:58] l3f : ett1: if you are ballzy, you should enter a short now
[2016-12-12 10:50:05] ett1 : buy is green, red is sell
[2016-12-12 10:50:22] Dtrade16 : Ok like I'm looking at the ETH7D
[2016-12-12 10:50:25] ett1 : nah no way. bitcoin tells you when its going up
[2016-12-12 10:50:29] immackay : ett1: what colour is sell
[2016-12-12 10:50:35] Dtrade16 : There's 5 red and 5 green numbers
[2016-12-12 10:50:42] ett1 : sell is red
[2016-12-12 10:50:44] Dtrade16 : What is that?
[2016-12-12 10:51:04] Dtrade16 : So people are selling the 0.01090 contract for example?
[2016-12-12 10:51:17] immackay : Dtrade16: I believe that's the amount of orders at that intended price
[2016-12-12 10:51:44] Dtrade16 : What?
[2016-12-12 10:51:53] Dtrade16 : Why are 5 green and 5 red tho?
[2016-12-12 10:51:56] ett1 : yes its showing the order depth
[2016-12-12 10:52:00] immackay : Dtrade16: the "spread", so to speak
[2016-12-12 10:52:03] Dtrade16 : The red is being sold?
[2016-12-12 10:52:11] immackay : 5 each is just a quirk of bitmex
[2016-12-12 10:52:24] ett1 : the orderbook is the orders waiting to be executed
[2016-12-12 10:52:28] immackay : if you go to https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btcchina/btccny for example
[2016-12-12 10:52:41] ett1 : somebody could be selling 100 of BTC at 780
[2016-12-12 10:52:43] Dtrade16 : Why are some numbers green and some red though?
[2016-12-12 10:52:44] immackay : it has a similar thing on the right hand side, but it shows all, not just 5
[2016-12-12 10:52:44] mjones : some nice size margin calls during the pump
[2016-12-12 10:52:53] ett1 : sombody buying 100 at 775
[2016-12-12 10:53:13] ett1 : orders get matched when agree
[2016-12-12 10:53:38] ett1 : this is basic
[2016-12-12 10:53:59] Dtrade16 : Like for example on ETH7D there's a price 0.01092 size 1500 total 7510
[2016-12-12 10:54:04] Dtrade16 : in red color
[2016-12-12 10:54:09] Dtrade16 : what does that mean exactly?
[2016-12-12 10:54:29] mjones : dang someone market bought or closed a large eth short
[2016-12-12 10:54:52] ett1 : somebody wants to sell $1500 of ETH at 0.01070
[2016-12-12 10:55:02] mjones : normal
[2016-12-12 10:55:10] ett1 : somebody willing to buy $10 of ETH at 0.01068
[2016-12-12 10:55:24] ett1 : so not trades until the seller increases his bid
[2016-12-12 10:55:38] ett1 : sorry the buyer
[2016-12-12 10:56:12] Dtrade16 : ett1: Are you talking to me?
[2016-12-12 10:56:20] ett1 : ye
[2016-12-12 10:57:21] Dtrade16 : is that the green numbers or red?
[2016-12-12 10:57:38] ett1 : are youo looking at ETH now
[2016-12-12 10:57:43] Dtrade16 : Yes
[2016-12-12 10:57:49] Dtrade16 : I am looking at ETH7D
[2016-12-12 10:58:15] ett1 : there is $1510 of ETH for sale at 0.01065
[2016-12-12 10:58:24] ett1 : nobody willing to buy at that price
[2016-12-12 10:58:39] ett1 : 0.01061 is the highest someone want to pay
[2016-12-12 10:58:54] ett1 : the seller can lower hos price and a trade will match
[2016-12-12 10:59:03] ett1 : or the buyer can increase what hes willing to pay
[2016-12-12 10:59:14] ett1 : it shows whos bidding/offering and how much
[2016-12-12 10:59:17] anonymous789 : bah, predicted funding rate should be better on xbt swap this is stupid again
[2016-12-12 10:59:39] Dtrade16 : ett1: Ok thank you!
[2016-12-12 10:59:59] ett1 : like if you wanted to buy $10,000 worth
[2016-12-12 11:00:15] ett1 : youd need to pay 0.01080 for some of them
[2016-12-12 11:00:58] Dtrade16 : Ok
[2016-12-12 11:01:01] ett1 : there less than $5000 on the books under 0.001070
[2016-12-12 11:01:26] Dtrade16 : Do you see the last order for 0.01093 at 267
[2016-12-12 11:01:28] Dtrade16 : ?
[2016-12-12 11:01:31] Dtrade16 : On the recent trades?
[2016-12-12 11:01:42] anonymous789 : this btc rally is so baseless
[2016-12-12 11:01:48] ett1 : youd drive the price up or down with orders bigger than a 1000-2000
[2016-12-12 11:01:54] ett1 : on ETH at the moment
[2016-12-12 11:01:59] Dtrade16 : Does that mean someone basically bought a futures contract stating that the price will be at 0.01093 in 7 days?
[2016-12-12 11:02:03] anonymous789 : i would actually be happy to get liquidated if this moons like this
[2016-12-12 11:02:10] anonymous789 : i deserve to lose
[2016-12-12 11:02:20] ett1 : no it doesnt mean that
[2016-12-12 11:02:22] l3f : anonymous789: :^)
[2016-12-12 11:02:29] l3f : anonymous789: *smugest face ever*
[2016-12-12 11:02:47] l3f : Was waiting for you to show up
[2016-12-12 11:02:52] anonymous789 : :P
[2016-12-12 11:02:56] Dtrade16 : ett1: What does it mean? That the price will be no more than that in 7 days?
[2016-12-12 11:03:10] anonymous789 : if this breaks 780, i am going to just wait until i get liquidated
[2016-12-12 11:03:21] immackay : anonymous789: did you short?
[2016-12-12 11:03:24] anonymous789 : yea
[2016-12-12 11:03:42] immackay : that's a shame
[2016-12-12 11:03:42] anonymous789 : such a ridiculously baseless rally
[2016-12-12 11:04:04] immackay : I threw away .1btc yesterday on a liquidation here
[2016-12-12 11:04:07] anonymous789 : the fundamentals are not great, the technicals are terrible
[2016-12-12 11:04:23] anonymous789 : this is as bad as the stock markets
[2016-12-12 11:04:25] ett1 : i cant see it, but it would have meant that price was at 0.01091 a while ago
[2016-12-12 11:04:30] ett1 : does it have the time next to it
[2016-12-12 11:04:59] anonymous789 : wouldn't be surprised if janet yellen is buying up bitcoin at these levels
[2016-12-12 11:05:01] immackay : it's just gonna keep trying 780 until it jumps to 800-820 range then a drop to probably around 740
[2016-12-12 11:05:05] Dtrade16 : Yes
[2016-12-12 11:05:14] Dtrade16 : 5:09:05 AM
[2016-12-12 11:05:24] anonymous789 : immackay: i can see that now
[2016-12-12 11:05:27] Dtrade16 : It's the first recent trade
[2016-12-12 11:05:40] anonymous789 : etiher that or it falls like an avalanche at 780
[2016-12-12 11:05:48] ett1 : 0.01093 267 5:09:05 PM S
[2016-12-12 11:05:51] ett1 : what about it
[2016-12-12 11:05:54] immackay : also i'm betting it will have a nice good drop at the end of the year
[2016-12-12 11:06:01] Dtrade16 : What does it mean exactly?
[2016-12-12 11:06:07] anonymous789 : 843 is liquidation for me
[2016-12-12 11:06:17] ett1 : somebody bought at 0.01093 less tha an hour ago
[2016-12-12 11:06:18] Dtrade16 : Someone sold 267 contracts of ETH?
[2016-12-12 11:06:22] immackay : anonymous789: true, but it's been pushing 780 for a while now
[2016-12-12 11:06:24] ett1 : now price is at 0.01061
[2016-12-12 11:06:28] ett1 : so theyre in a loss
[2016-12-12 11:06:32] anonymous789 : immackay: yup
[2016-12-12 11:06:43] anonymous789 : immackay: i'm f-ucked
[2016-12-12 11:06:58] immackay : where'd you short?
[2016-12-12 11:07:01] anonymous789 : 752
[2016-12-12 11:07:08] immackay : o u c h
[2016-12-12 11:07:10] Dtrade16 : What are they buying exactly?
[2016-12-12 11:07:16] ett1 : yes, someobody bought and somebody else sold that nimber
[2016-12-12 11:07:17] Dtrade16 : Like what's the bet that they're making?
[2016-12-12 11:07:28] anonymous789 : immackay: there was a lot of resistance when i shorted, assumed it was going to make another run down
[2016-12-12 11:07:40] Dtrade16 : That the price will be tht much in a given time period?
[2016-12-12 11:07:42] anonymous789 : immackay: didn't know it was going to pivot to the upside
[2016-12-12 11:07:55] ett1 : but its green ,so it was a buy order that took liquidity
[2016-12-12 11:08:44] ett1 : i wouldnt trade if you dont know this stuff. its elementary
[2016-12-12 11:08:45] immackay : anonymous789: well if 843 is liquidation for you I think you'll have a chance to at least mitigate your losses in the next week or two
[2016-12-12 11:09:00] Dtrade16 : I don't trade futures
[2016-12-12 11:09:06] anonymous789 : immackay: depends, because there isn't much resistance past 780
[2016-12-12 11:09:12] anonymous789 : it could literally moon to 1200 now
[2016-12-12 11:09:15] Dtrade16 : I have an idea of what it is
[2016-12-12 11:09:21] ett1 : usually with brokers you just see a price
[2016-12-12 11:09:22] Dtrade16 : But I think I need some sleep lol
[2016-12-12 11:09:25] Dtrade16 : Thank you
[2016-12-12 11:09:39] ett1 : but you actually see the orders that are on the books here
[2016-12-12 11:09:52] anonymous789 : immackay: but yea i'm gonna keep holding should it go higher, my liquidation price will increase anyway because margin will increase from funding rate
[2016-12-12 11:10:59] immackay : anonymous789: at the very least it should go back down to 765 at some point
[2016-12-12 11:11:29] l3f : anonymous789: imho this is as high as it'll go
[2016-12-12 11:11:32] anonymous789 : immackay: the longer trendline is around 680 or so, it should actually correct to there imo
[2016-12-12 11:11:33] l3f : ATH is very hard to break
[2016-12-12 11:11:45] l3f : anonymous789: in fact I'd start shorting now
[2016-12-12 11:11:52] l3f : but I need to do a bit more analysis
[2016-12-12 11:12:09] anonymous789 : l3f: yeah in hindsight i should have waited for ATH but i got greedy thought i'd could make some money on a quick scalp at 752
[2016-12-12 11:12:12] immackay : l3f: it's hard to break but it has to break sometime
[2016-12-12 11:12:24] l3f : immackay: not really
[2016-12-12 11:12:39] l3f : anonymous789: did you really hold a scalp for a whole day?
[2016-12-12 11:12:54] anonymous789 : well my problem is when i went to sleep haha
[2016-12-12 11:13:01] anonymous789 : i could have closed my scalp in profit
[2016-12-12 11:13:16] anonymous789 : but i don't use stop losses or take profits
[2016-12-12 11:13:23] immackay : l3f: alright, whatever you say
[2016-12-12 11:13:54] l3f : immackay: haha, no signs of reversal, so it'll break soon
[2016-12-12 11:14:02] l3f : but not today
[2016-12-12 11:14:41] immackay : I'm thinking ATH around christmas then drop into the new year
[2016-12-12 11:15:55] l3f : yeah
[2016-12-12 11:16:17] anonymous789 : seems to be a fair bit of resistance at the 5475 level cny
[2016-12-12 11:16:46] Derreck : I wonder - how high will BTC go before Fed meeting? It could break 780 again
[2016-12-12 11:17:49] l3f : Derreck: they are expected to increase rates
[2016-12-12 11:17:54] l3f : so it's already priced in
[2016-12-12 11:18:00] l3f : unless they are going to be doing something retarded
[2016-12-12 11:18:37] billyboy402 : immackay: i feel ur pain mate
[2016-12-12 11:18:59] aethlios : btc in eur 8 usd premium now, btc in china 9.6 usd premium. constantly in premium in eur.
[2016-12-12 11:19:33] billyboy402 : aethlios: - that mean there are too many dum ppl buying the price up
[2016-12-12 11:19:48] Derreck : l3f: if its already priced in, why is BTC up right now?
[2016-12-12 11:19:49] billyboy402 : and not sending $ to a cheaper exchange
[2016-12-12 11:20:07] l3f : Derreck: because usd rates increase shits down CNY price
[2016-12-12 11:20:24] l3f : lower CNY price = bitcoin pump
[2016-12-12 11:20:36] Derreck : l3f: oh ok, makes sense
[2016-12-12 11:21:32] aethlios : maybe italians start buying, first bail in possible to happen in monte dei paschi.
[2016-12-12 11:22:15] aethlios : kraken has cheap sepa transfers. i use kraken as euro benchmark
[2016-12-12 11:22:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 777.05
[2016-12-12 11:22:52] l3f : poor bastard
[2016-12-12 11:26:44] aethlios : many stop loss order I guess will be above 800, 801 to 805
[2016-12-12 11:27:11] anonymous789 : i don't understand the mentality of people buying at these prices
[2016-12-12 11:27:30] anonymous789 : even some of the top bitcoin people have been selling in an effort to buy at lower prices
[2016-12-12 11:27:32] anonymous789 : like turd demeester
[2016-12-12 11:27:36] mjones : almost new high on xbtz16. new round of margin calls
[2016-12-12 11:27:49] rms : cause downside is a 10% retrace, upside is moon
[2016-12-12 11:28:01] rms : so buying at new highs makes sense if you are chasing 30% increase in BTC
[2016-12-12 11:28:15] anonymous789 : you don't buy when things are high
[2016-12-12 11:28:25] anonymous789 : that's like basic trading
[2016-12-12 11:28:26] l3f : the price doesn't matter
[2016-12-12 11:28:38] Ary : this isnt high
[2016-12-12 11:28:40] anonymous789 : i call what's happening right now FOMO
[2016-12-12 11:28:45] Ernybrown : anonymous789: hello
[2016-12-12 11:28:53] anonymous789 : Ernybrown: hi
[2016-12-12 11:29:05] l3f : I'm going in short guys
[2016-12-12 11:29:06] l3f : wish me luck
[2016-12-12 11:29:12] anonymous789 : l3f: good luck
[2016-12-12 11:29:13] mjones : good luck
[2016-12-12 11:29:17] KingTuna : LOL People said $30 was high and then $90 was way too high then $265 and so on
[2016-12-12 11:29:20] aethlios : anonymous789: how do you know price is high?? is it also expensive? still 35% below ATH 3 years back.
[2016-12-12 11:29:32] anonymous789 : KingTuna: 30 was high, it retraced back to like 3$ didn't it?
[2016-12-12 11:29:36] aethlios : l3f: you want to get poor?