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[2016-12-09 20:13:04] aethlios : daily chart of 3M okcoin price divided by swap price here, if substract 1 you have % of the premium, so interesting to trade that. Looks like the VIX index
[2016-12-09 20:16:15] thiago : someone actually does the math? I was just following tetsuo insidings. . .
[2016-12-09 20:25:56] sleger : nothing to do with the vix index though
[2016-12-09 20:35:36] CaptainDean : Isn't the Vix index related to Rave ?
[2016-12-09 20:36:05] Tetsuo : thiago: it has been confimed, look : https://blockchain.info/de/tx/3b023220ba3eb9a1dd319fe9b387cfc2f6344d13d05507cdabb6346b780b1c8f about 476 times already, ETC will go to the moon
[2016-12-09 20:36:22] CaptainDean : "Vicks"
[2016-12-09 20:36:25] CaptainDean : ;-)
[2016-12-09 20:37:26] Tetsuo : https://alfredeaker.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/supervixens-russ-meyer-poster.jpg?w=640&h=476
[2016-12-09 20:38:45] aethlios : finex created an OTC market.
[2016-12-09 20:43:14] Tetsuo : can i buy large chunks of Finex shares there?
[2016-12-09 20:48:34] aethlios : Tetsuo: shares not tradeable (from what I know)
[2016-12-09 21:51:39] BTCDJS : ? 666 ?
[2016-12-09 21:52:49] BitMEX_Sam : :o
[2016-12-09 21:54:17] BTCDJS : ?
[2016-12-09 21:55:23] BTCDJS : https://youtu.be/XBv0D3k1fsA
[2016-12-09 22:50:41] arbitrage001 : good morning, fellow trolls
[2016-12-09 22:51:07] arbitrage001 : how is crypto treating everyone?
[2016-12-09 22:53:06] BTCDJS : Like we belong here
[2016-12-09 23:10:59] arbitrage001 : aethlios: looks like finex want to operate like a bank
[2016-12-09 23:11:43] arbitrage001 : not a bad idea, i know many traders use btc-e just because of the usd code they offer
[2016-12-09 23:12:27] mjones : rip etc
[2016-12-09 23:12:43] arbitrage001 : bubble burst already?
[2016-12-09 23:13:10] mjones : yeah . someone sold 0.0001% of the total supply and poof
[2016-12-09 23:13:31] arbitrage001 : thought btcchina will offer etc
[2016-12-09 23:13:41] arbitrage001 : and then the nex exchange etcwin
[2016-12-09 23:13:46] mjones : we'll save that rumor for another day
[2016-12-09 23:13:59] mjones : already used it today
[2016-12-09 23:14:21] arbitrage001 : i see
[2016-12-09 23:14:31] arbitrage001 : china said they will ban btc just now
[2016-12-09 23:14:39] arbitrage001 : sell!!!!
[2016-12-09 23:14:56] mjones : doesnt seem to be working any more
[2016-12-09 23:17:08] arbitrage001 : vitalik said he is quitting and going to retire in hawaii
[2016-12-09 23:56:20] mjones : BTC still king. it can go to 4000 now
[2016-12-09 23:57:51] arbitrage001 : 20% correction?
[2016-12-10 00:00:20] mjones : eth dumping. arbitrage001 was right
[2016-12-10 00:00:38] arbitrage001 : mjones: lol no
[2016-12-10 00:00:47] mjones : o
[2016-12-10 00:00:57] arbitrage001 : lots of new changes at finex
[2016-12-10 00:01:04] mjones : so i've heard
[2016-12-10 00:01:05] arbitrage001 : attitude at management change
[2016-12-10 00:01:17] mjones : i wouldnt know since the PR guy quit
[2016-12-10 00:01:47] arbitrage001 : guess people always act arrogant when they are the king
[2016-12-10 00:02:06] mjones : ya
[2016-12-10 00:02:12] arbitrage001 : then change attitude when they are in deep trouble
[2016-12-10 00:02:49] mjones : i wonder how those former btc whales are doing
[2016-12-10 00:02:50] shiroe : Rejected breakout eth, breakout on BTC. double win!
[2016-12-10 00:03:05] arbitrage001 : what former whales?
[2016-12-10 00:03:47] mjones : whales who now look at their btc in other wallets thanks to bitfinex
[2016-12-10 00:04:35] arbitrage001 : hardware wallet only cost around 100 usd
[2016-12-10 00:04:48] mjones : exchange costs $0
[2016-12-10 00:05:01] arbitrage001 : doubt whales store more than half of their holding at exchange
[2016-12-10 00:05:08] arbitrage001 : for no reason
[2016-12-10 00:05:11] mjones : true
[2016-12-10 00:11:10] shiroe : Whales like the twins? Why will they cashout. lol
[2016-12-10 00:15:04] arbitrage001 : shiroe: money is only useful if you spend it or use it for business?
[2016-12-10 00:15:59] mjones : conduct business in BTC only
[2016-12-10 00:16:19] arbitrage001 : still a long way to go
[2016-12-10 00:16:56] arbitrage001 : possibly never
[2016-12-10 00:19:16] mjones : cause ZEC would be a much better choice
[2016-12-10 00:25:23] JuriFX : Is there a way to get complete history of futures like 7 day, because the chart obviously shows only the last 7 days of price. Something like a continuos contract chart which concatenates all periods into one to show proper history would be great
[2016-12-10 00:26:23] BitMEX_Sam : JuriFX: It already does that
[2016-12-10 00:26:25] BitMEX_Sam : Just zoom out.
[2016-12-10 00:28:34] JuriFX : BitMEX_Sam: Oh thanks, sorry you're right, just checked ETH7D and it goes back to november. This applies only to new launched products... Thanks
[2016-12-10 00:28:52] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: No problem, let me know if you have any other questions
[2016-12-10 01:11:24] mjones : btc
[2016-12-10 01:11:25] mjones : new high
[2016-12-10 01:12:20] arbitrage001 : premium new high also
[2016-12-10 01:12:23] Techemy : yes fomo like never before
[2016-12-10 01:12:25] arbitrage001 : if annualized
[2016-12-10 01:12:43] arbitrage001 : short term new high, that is
[2016-12-10 01:13:34] mjones : short the rally folks. that's the only way we'll go higher when you close
[2016-12-10 01:14:49] mjones : 4650 BTC showing on the sell side on okcoin
[2016-12-10 01:25:49] shiroe : someones getting rekt? :P
[2016-12-10 01:25:56] shiroe : Wait for the rekt train! chuchu
[2016-12-10 01:27:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 975 @ 772.02
[2016-12-10 01:41:39] thiago : bitmex should have a demo account for beginners
[2016-12-10 01:42:26] l3f : always bet on bitcoin
[2016-12-10 01:42:38] l3f : thiago: you can use the testnet with play money
[2016-12-10 01:42:46] l3f : they*
[2016-12-10 01:43:09] thiago : thank you
[2016-12-10 01:43:15] thiago : how do I acess that?
[2016-12-10 01:43:35] l3f : testnet.bitmex.com
[2016-12-10 01:46:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: Sell 40 @ 5481.500000
[2016-12-10 01:46:12] KingTuna : lorde this could go $1k on a bull rally easy or dump to low 600s
[2016-12-10 01:46:47] sleger : thanks for your great insight tuna can
[2016-12-10 01:47:59] rms : i see it more like it could test 730 or 740 or go to $1k
[2016-12-10 01:48:03] rms : but upside is higher than downside right now
[2016-12-10 01:48:19] rms : except for bitcoin's all too frequent black swan exchange hacking events
[2016-12-10 01:48:33] KingTuna : haha yes
[2016-12-10 01:49:58] thiago : just hang on until 20 january.. 10 stupid trump tweets and we sure have btc at 10k
[2016-12-10 01:53:07] l3f : OMG the price may go UP or DOWN!
[2016-12-10 01:53:12] l3f : stop the presses
[2016-12-10 01:53:40] mjones : china bullwhale bot is bound to get hacked and market buy btc up to 9999 cny any moment
[2016-12-10 01:54:00] l3f : one finger slip
[2016-12-10 01:54:03] l3f : is all we need
[2016-12-10 01:54:09] l3f : just fat finger that buy
[2016-12-10 02:32:27] poly24 : How are people still bag holding for zcash?! It is waaaay overpriced and will be until at least .05 BTC. You can't tell me it is worth 4x eth right now lol
[2016-12-10 02:33:10] poly24 : .05 btc would stilll be more than 4x eth
[2016-12-10 02:44:18] mjones : wat
[2016-12-10 03:02:18] l3f : Sorry but eth is worth zero
[2016-12-10 03:18:45] mjones : i'm shorting -500 eth contracts right now
[2016-12-10 03:19:00] mjones : it's worth less than 0 that bitmex is paying me to short it
[2016-12-10 03:19:44] mjones : okcoin 145 cny away from new yearly high
[2016-12-10 03:20:17] mjones : i dunno who is shorting xbtz16 so hard
[2016-12-10 03:20:40] mjones : but when it goes up to being $20-$25 higher I will thank you
[2016-12-10 03:52:05] rapidtrades : wtf is up with this rally man...moving at $2-3 per day
[2016-12-10 03:56:05] rapidtrades : looool check out the archive
[2016-12-10 03:56:17] rapidtrades : it pulled posts from 2014 at the very start
[2016-12-10 03:56:44] rapidtrades : Welcome to bitmex we are live lol
[2016-12-10 03:57:06] rapidtrades : dam laisee has beeen here since the start
[2016-12-10 04:00:18] rapidtrades : ''sleger : i dont understand the size, how much is 100 contracts ?''
[2016-12-10 04:00:29] rapidtrades : LOL sleger at this humble begginings ^^^
[2016-12-10 04:05:17] BigDaddyBigDick : Lmao
[2016-12-10 04:08:44] Rado : rapidtrades: ha ha
[2016-12-10 04:08:47] Rado : that's funny
[2016-12-10 04:08:52] Rado : I am going to save this one
[2016-12-10 04:09:00] Rado : 'sleger : i dont understand the size, how much is 100 contracts ?''
[2016-12-10 04:12:03] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: where do you pull up archieve from 2014?
[2016-12-10 04:13:41] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: i just clicked on archive and it pulled it...i see now its gone
[2016-12-10 04:13:52] rapidtrades : oh it's back!
[2016-12-10 04:14:21] arbitrage001 : my archieve link here only last a day or two
[2016-12-10 04:14:34] rapidtrades : look at the top
[2016-12-10 04:14:49] rapidtrades : it's mixed 2014/2016
[2016-12-10 04:15:11] arbitrage001 : top line
[2016-12-10 04:15:13] arbitrage001 : [2016-12-08 09:57:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 216 @ 0.011450
[2016-12-10 04:15:48] rapidtrades : hmm try again?
[2016-12-10 04:16:02] arbitrage001 : [2016-12-08 10:33:01] anonymous789 : funding rate is stupid
[2016-12-10 04:16:15] rapidtrades : try again?
[2016-12-10 04:16:23] mjones : [2016-12-08 10:33:01] anonymous789 : funding rate is stupid
[2016-12-10 04:16:24] arbitrage001 : same
[2016-12-10 04:16:44] rapidtrades : dunno what to tell u, smtimes it works, smtimes it doesn't
[2016-12-10 04:16:50] rapidtrades : it's obv a glitch
[2016-12-10 04:17:03] mjones : [2016-12-08 10:40:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 133050 @ 779.66 **EPIC REKT**
[2016-12-10 04:17:15] arbitrage001 : you ever clear your web browser cache?
[2016-12-10 04:17:19] arbitrage001 : in 2 years
[2016-12-10 04:17:27] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-12-10 04:18:33] arbitrage001 : do you ever clean your room?
[2016-12-10 04:18:36] arbitrage001 : lol
[2016-12-10 06:15:32] mjones : shits so boring. hack another altwhale and dump their whole account
[2016-12-10 06:16:54] mjones : 5460 CNY probably get hit soon then another dump
[2016-12-10 06:17:25] rapidtrades : anyone has simplefx account? i need the rollover rates for eurusd, audusd and usdjpy
[2016-12-10 06:17:40] rapidtrades : their site is shit and don't feel like downloading the plaform
[2016-12-10 06:19:46] rapidtrades : holy shit what's wrong with their website
[2016-12-10 06:20:16] JamesPolo : Simple fx are legit?
[2016-12-10 06:20:35] rapidtrades : i dont think so
[2016-12-10 06:20:50] JamesPolo : Ever withdraw?
[2016-12-10 06:21:11] rapidtrades : ^ haven't used them like i said
[2016-12-10 06:35:12] ysl : testing
[2016-12-10 06:49:42] shiroe : i am testing as well
[2016-12-10 07:17:23] mjones : awe shit here we go. ETC heading back up
[2016-12-10 07:17:29] mjones : start the rumor mill back up.
[2016-12-10 07:30:19] mjones : China wakes up and etc goes up
[2016-12-10 08:26:39] rullwull : rapidtrades: rates are there https://simplefx.com/legalDocuments/
[2016-12-10 08:53:20] aethlios : does bitmex xbtusd spot index exists on tradingview? what is the ticker?
[2016-12-10 09:27:08] BitMEX_Wally : aethlios: Ticker is `BITMEX:XBTUSD` https://www.tradingview.com/chart/W3o0xzEq/
[2016-12-10 09:29:24] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: Hi, I found the swap, I want the spot index that bitmex uses (kaiko)
[2016-12-10 09:29:35] BitMEX_Wally : Ahh sorry, I misread
[2016-12-10 09:29:44] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD
[2016-12-10 09:31:54] BitMEX_Wally : aethlios: I cannot find Kaiko on there, you could enter the formula into TradingView though: `0.5*OKCOIN:BTCUSD + 0.5*BITSTAMP:BTCUSD`
[2016-12-10 09:33:16] BitMEX_Wally : Where THEWOODCHIPPER should be 0KCOIN
[2016-12-10 09:39:00] aethlios : nice, thanks!
[2016-12-10 10:35:58] l3f : hey BitMEX_Wally
[2016-12-10 10:36:01] l3f : if I wanted to make a trading bot
[2016-12-10 10:36:06] l3f : how should I get the data for backtesting?
[2016-12-10 10:40:34] BitMEX_Wally : You an use our API to request historic data
[2016-12-10 10:41:15] BitMEX_Wally : There are some tools to pull data: https://github.com/BitMEX/easy-data-scripts
[2016-12-10 10:42:09] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: will this let me reconstruct the order book?
[2016-12-10 10:42:30] BitMEX_Wally : No, we only expose BBO historically, via the /quote endpoint
[2016-12-10 10:43:03] l3f : what is BBO?
[2016-12-10 10:43:07] BitMEX_Wally : Best Bid Offer
[2016-12-10 10:43:14] BitMEX_Wally : i.e the historical bidPrice, askPrice
[2016-12-10 10:43:17] BitMEX_Wally : But not the depth
[2016-12-10 10:44:36] l3f : Ok cool
[2016-12-10 10:49:08] cryptobull : when did etcwin get on here?
[2016-12-10 10:52:13] BitMEX_Wally : cryptobull: It was launched on Tuesday
[2016-12-10 10:52:21] cryptobull : ok thanks
[2016-12-10 10:52:53] cryptobull : BitMEX_Wally: is it traded on any other exchange?
[2016-12-10 10:53:23] BitMEX_Wally : cryptobull: Not yet, but our future will settle based on the price on the most liquid exchange by end of the month
[2016-12-10 10:53:25] BitMEX_Wally : More information here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5go20j/bitmex_launches_two_new_products_bitcoincny/
[2016-12-10 10:58:13] aethlios : swap starts looks more bullish last hours.
[2016-12-10 11:01:55] wurstgelee : You have a confirmed withdrawal.
[2016-12-10 11:01:56] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-12-10 11:02:09] wurstgelee : thanks for the banner
[2016-12-10 11:02:17] wurstgelee : too many questions i guess
[2016-12-10 11:02:18] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-12-10 11:47:02] thiago : i need faucets to run testnet? jeez.. cant you just credit me 10 xbt..
[2016-12-10 11:49:12] arbitrage001 : thiago: you can click a few links to get 5-10 btc in a min
[2016-12-10 11:53:51] thiago : gonna try
[2016-12-10 12:24:13] shiroe : That 150k xbt buy. lels
[2016-12-10 12:27:29] ScottJ : How many contracts did someone just market buy?!
[2016-12-10 12:28:06] BTCDJS : I just market bought 30 000 why?
[2016-12-10 12:28:47] ScottJ : Someone bought a lot more than that at 12:22:44 PM
[2016-12-10 12:29:26] shiroe : around 200k atleast,.
[2016-12-10 12:32:14] BTCDJS : Im only joking anyway
[2016-12-10 12:45:48] BTCDJS : Got my bids lower 720-730
[2016-12-10 12:46:01] BTCDJS : catching knives
[2016-12-10 12:48:30] mjones : Can you feel that. It's etc about to explode
[2016-12-10 12:49:18] BTCDJS : I feel it
[2016-12-10 12:49:32] BTCDJS : oh wait no. its my tummy rumbling
[2016-12-10 12:52:49] shiroe : explode means die right?
[2016-12-10 12:53:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 1000 @ 0.001113
[2016-12-10 13:17:40] l3f : premium is so low for Z16
[2016-12-10 13:18:03] l3f : 8 dollar premium
[2016-12-10 13:18:03] l3f : lol
[2016-12-10 13:23:30] sleger : you know the premium is going to zero right ?
[2016-12-10 13:24:56] arbitrage001 : 1% for 20 days left isn't small premium
[2016-12-10 13:29:18] DangerandPlay : so, is BTC going to the moon in the next few months??
[2016-12-10 13:30:47] mjones : Yes
[2016-12-10 13:43:23] DangerandPlay : 14,200 by april??
[2016-12-10 13:45:38] BTCDJS : lol
[2016-12-10 13:45:58] BTCDJS : DangerandPlay: where did you get that number from?
[2016-12-10 13:47:31] BTCDJS : Let me guess
[2016-12-10 13:47:34] BTCDJS : twitter
[2016-12-10 13:51:02] DangerandPlay : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/FRfx6tI5-Bitcoin-Megabull-Cycle-Starts-in-Less-than-24-Hours/
[2016-12-10 13:51:05] DangerandPlay : oops seems i cant post links
[2016-12-10 13:51:16] DangerandPlay : ah there we go
[2016-12-10 13:51:58] DangerandPlay : it was a tonguie in cheek question
[2016-12-10 13:52:03] DangerandPlay : though i do have a large long position open
[2016-12-10 13:52:25] BTCDJS : DangerandPlay: Yeah seen that chart on twitter. Just ignore that. Bitcoin won't reach that price for years IMO
[2016-12-10 13:52:59] DangerandPlay : long-term, yes, but i think it could definitely spike
[2016-12-10 13:53:26] DangerandPlay : way more people know about bitcoin than the last megabull... many more people to get sucked into it, many more platforms to help them
[2016-12-10 13:53:26] BTCDJS : The trend is bullish sure
[2016-12-10 13:55:29] BTCDJS : whatever get your blood flowing dude. But price may fall back to 400s in the next couple years
[2016-12-10 13:59:25] DangerandPlay : also true.
[2016-12-10 13:59:31] DangerandPlay : highly likely
[2016-12-10 13:59:45] DangerandPlay : i'm in this for the long haul... 20+ years
[2016-12-10 14:00:17] DangerandPlay : i'm most interested in gains from speculation atm
[2016-12-10 14:00:43] BTCDJS : You been trading long?
[2016-12-10 14:01:30] DangerandPlay : longing and shorting... depending on my instinct and luck... (i will fully admit i don't have a clue what i'm doing)... made a lot of cash shorting monero in oct
[2016-12-10 14:01:57] BTCDJS : DangerandPlay: I meant a long time
[2016-12-10 14:02:20] DangerandPlay : oh sorry - off and on for past 18 months or so. you?
[2016-12-10 14:02:42] DangerandPlay : i'm in china.. limited options when it comes to getting rmb out... ended up drifting into bitcoin by accidernt
[2016-12-10 14:04:06] DangerandPlay : planning to short RMB :D
[2016-12-10 14:07:19] BTCDJS : You remind me of me when I first started. I used to imagine all sorts of things on how it was going to be. What id accomplish etc... When you lose all or a big portion of your money you will be closer to becoming a better trader. Good Luck
[2016-12-10 14:09:34] DangerandPlay : well, thanks for that. somewhat patronising but nevermind. i'm under no illusions. i'm not playing with anything i'm not prepared to lose. just messing with profits at the moment.
[2016-12-10 14:15:03] BTCDJS : Sure. I mean it sincerely. Trading is hard. And when I first came here thats the kind of stuff I was told by more experienced traders. I had a head full of dreams about trading a bitcoin. Im just saying you remind me of that time. If you lose. Don't lose hope. Keep going. I lost it all. Got it back through luck. And now I'm taking it easy with more knowledge and caution.
[2016-12-10 14:18:29] DangerandPlay : Nah, no big deal. I appreciate the advice. I've passed the mythical '21' number now. I intend to horde those 21 coins until one day they're hopefully worth something. Just playing with the few coins i have over that now. hopefully won't get too badly burnt
[2016-12-10 14:19:03] DangerandPlay : successes early on do give one a feeling of invincibility that probably isn't conducive to good trading in long term
[2016-12-10 14:20:14] BTCDJS : Ha Ha scary how much you remind me of me
[2016-12-10 14:20:23] DangerandPlay : :D
[2016-12-10 14:20:32] DangerandPlay : how old are you, out of interest?
[2016-12-10 14:20:41] BTCDJS : 32
[2016-12-10 14:20:46] DangerandPlay : me too - haha
[2016-12-10 14:21:06] BTCDJS : ok you are freaking me out
[2016-12-10 14:22:12] DangerandPlay : so how much did you lose?? curious
[2016-12-10 14:23:40] BTCDJS : I had 20btc lost 13. But I invested I invested 4btc in Augur ICO. Upon launch I sold all my Rep for 25btc. Got lucky
[2016-12-10 14:24:47] BTCDJS : I traded a lot here. May as well put it all in a fruit machine If you're trading High leverage
[2016-12-10 14:25:07] l3f : Bitmex casino and resort ppl
[2016-12-10 14:25:19] DangerandPlay : Ahh, yes. That's not too bad. I thought you were gonna be one of those horror stories I've read about on Reddit... The guy who took his inheritance (along with that of siblings) and chucked it all on Bitcoin... lost it all
[2016-12-10 14:25:24] DangerandPlay : :D
[2016-12-10 14:25:30] l3f : He got goxxed
[2016-12-10 14:25:32] l3f : that's different
[2016-12-10 14:25:37] l3f : tons of people got goxxed
[2016-12-10 14:26:19] DangerandPlay : ah ok... i didn't know that
[2016-12-10 14:26:26] DangerandPlay : but still.... foolish to do what he did
[2016-12-10 14:33:01] l3f : Oh I think you might be talking about a different guy
[2016-12-10 14:33:49] l3f : I remember this story on reddit
[2016-12-10 14:35:29] thiago : lol me too
[2016-12-10 14:35:38] thiago : dead parents
[2016-12-10 14:35:42] thiago : and no money
[2016-12-10 14:38:02] l3f : https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1r88vl/need_advice_on_inheritance_arbitrage_family_etc/?st=iwjbsloi&sh=5347a3db
[2016-12-10 14:38:02] l3f : this guy
[2016-12-10 14:45:14] sleger : great xmas story
[2016-12-10 14:47:18] lopol : isnt it obvious that zec will pump few days before expiry date on polo to liquiate shorts here?
[2016-12-10 14:47:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.010145
[2016-12-10 14:47:47] lopol : great profit so far with shorting but that seems real risk
[2016-12-10 14:49:03] sleger : sherlock holmes is among us
[2016-12-10 14:54:24] startChat : Daily candles CNY and STAMP are to green to be true
[2016-12-10 15:00:52] Rado : sleger: I think he is more like dr. watson
[2016-12-10 15:05:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `REP7D`: Sell 20 @ 0.003952
[2016-12-10 15:10:58] l3f : lopol: I'm not so sure anymore
[2016-12-10 15:11:13] l3f : I rode the pump last time and that worked
[2016-12-10 15:11:25] l3f : but I think the volume might be too large for a pump to work now
[2016-12-10 15:11:31] l3f : last pump (2 days ago) failed hard
[2016-12-10 15:11:42] l3f : and I can see zec going to ~0.04 at least
[2016-12-10 15:12:46] l3f : might start microbuying and averaging a position
[2016-12-10 15:13:03] BTCDJS : don't forget to adjust for inflation
[2016-12-10 15:13:18] l3f : exactly
[2016-12-10 15:13:25] l3f : there would be twice the supply by the end of the month
[2016-12-10 15:13:34] l3f : everything is working against the pump
[2016-12-10 15:18:35] Rado : what pump?
[2016-12-10 15:19:46] l3f : zec pump
[2016-12-10 15:19:50] l3f : sleger: if you were to move ZEC
[2016-12-10 15:19:54] l3f : when would you do it?
[2016-12-10 15:20:13] sleger : just before i told you
[2016-12-10 15:20:23] l3f : exactly
[2016-12-10 15:20:36] l3f : if you think it'll pump you'll just start collecting it and averaging down
[2016-12-10 15:46:05] Rado : l3f: you are making an assumption that ZEC trading on Polo cares about contracts here
[2016-12-10 16:22:57] anonymous789 : sigh watching btc right now is so painful i'd rather get liquidated on one crazy move up
[2016-12-10 16:23:12] anonymous789 : it's like a slow torture
[2016-12-10 16:29:37] wurstgelee : anonymous789: closing is a way out ;)
[2016-12-10 16:30:45] anonymous789 : wurstgelee: i don't mind holding this position but it's so god damned boring
[2016-12-10 16:31:25] wurstgelee : do something else and stop watching charts then?
[2016-12-10 16:31:38] mjones : yeah. go clean
[2016-12-10 16:31:41] anonymous789 : yea i been playing ff14 but that's getting boring too
[2016-12-10 16:31:52] anonymous789 : eww cleaning
[2016-12-10 16:32:03] mjones : i'm gonna go clean everything and try to throw out a bunch of shit i have not used in 10 years. time to stop being a hoarder
[2016-12-10 16:32:10] wurstgelee : bought myself a ps4 pro and bf1, played 3 mins, ragequit. ordered a xim 4 keyboard&mouse adapter.
[2016-12-10 16:32:16] wurstgelee : fuck playing fps games with a controller
[2016-12-10 16:32:35] mjones : you can use mouse and keyboard with ps4 and battlefield 1?
[2016-12-10 16:32:41] wurstgelee : with every game
[2016-12-10 16:32:43] anonymous789 : f-uck playing fps games, mindless stuff, i play rpg, escapism ftw
[2016-12-10 16:32:44] wurstgelee : xim 4
[2016-12-10 16:32:46] mjones : wtf
[2016-12-10 16:32:46] wurstgelee : google it
[2016-12-10 16:32:48] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-12-10 16:33:26] mjones : i have a ps4 i never use because i hate playing fps games with a controller
[2016-12-10 16:33:29] anonymous789 : i prefer a good story
[2016-12-10 16:33:33] wurstgelee : mjones: same
[2016-12-10 16:33:39] wurstgelee : then i read about xim 4
[2016-12-10 16:33:41] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-12-10 16:33:48] mjones : $150 lulz
[2016-12-10 16:34:02] wurstgelee : it seems it works great with logitech wireless nano controllers
[2016-12-10 16:34:49] wurstgelee : looking forward to play it with my g602 ;)
[2016-12-10 16:35:19] wurstgelee : mjones: worth it
[2016-12-10 16:35:32] wurstgelee : if the reason u dont use it is the controller ;)
[2016-12-10 16:35:42] mjones : yeah i cant shoot worth shit with a ps4 controller
[2016-12-10 16:38:45] wurstgelee : same
[2016-12-10 16:38:57] wurstgelee : annoying.
[2016-12-10 16:39:09] wurstgelee : i used to be good with mouse & kb @ fps
[2016-12-10 16:39:40] wurstgelee : 15 y ago oO
[2016-12-10 16:40:13] mjones : word
[2016-12-10 16:42:24] anonymous789 : need a baby to sleep, get them to watch bitcoin charts
[2016-12-10 17:27:41] JuriFX : price is compressing a lot up, so slowly... Can someone buy a bit more so that I can reach my TP limit, please? Go bulls!
[2016-12-10 17:28:58] thiago : just me or is easier to trade deth?
[2016-12-10 17:29:41] JuriFX : what is deth? you mean eth?
[2016-12-10 17:30:21] m3s : JuriFX: he mean to say toilETH
[2016-12-10 17:30:37] JuriFX : sorry don't know what it is
[2016-12-10 17:31:11] JuriFX : deth = deathETH?
[2016-12-10 17:31:20] m3s : yeah
[2016-12-10 17:31:25] JuriFX : ok lol
[2016-12-10 17:32:51] thiago : shorting ofc :)
[2016-12-10 17:36:02] JuriFX : yes I see ETH going lower https://www.tradingview.com/x/7RtSwsUi
[2016-12-10 17:36:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 20 @ 0.010370
[2016-12-10 17:36:48] thiago : :)
[2016-12-10 17:37:14] wurstgelee : btc ;)
[2016-12-10 17:38:22] JuriFX : thanks bulls, my TP was reached, :D
[2016-12-10 17:38:27] m3s : JuriFX: it is. if you factor in bitcoin and the fact hw many people are in levearaged longs, this can be a bloodbath
[2016-12-10 17:39:33] thiago : again, easier and more reliable to short deth HAHA
[2016-12-10 17:39:41] thiago : gogo btc lol
[2016-12-10 17:39:57] m3s : bitcoin my body is ready
[2016-12-10 17:40:55] DangerandPlay : strap yourselves in... we're going to da mooooooon
[2016-12-10 17:41:53] m3s : still waiting for destiny candle of peace
[2016-12-10 17:54:51] anonymous789 : i think we'll see a shooting star before we see the moon :D
[2016-12-10 17:55:48] anonymous789 : i wonder if we'll finally break to the downside on this test
[2016-12-10 17:56:24] thiago : WUT
[2016-12-10 17:56:26] thiago : fock
[2016-12-10 17:56:39] m3s : lol
[2016-12-10 17:58:20] anonymous789 : 3 minutes to form that shooting star on teh hourly
[2016-12-10 17:59:37] anonymous789 : talking about cny btw
[2016-12-10 18:01:03] anonymous789 : yea bearish shooting star on cny let's see if it breaks the channel
[2016-12-10 18:03:01] thiago : assuming chinese people spend saturday night buying crazy amounts of internet money. . .
[2016-12-10 18:07:59] BTCDJS : time in china is 2:07am sunday
[2016-12-10 18:11:41] thiago : ikr
[2016-12-10 18:12:31] anonymous789 : well i'm hoping to enjoy the predicted funding rate
[2016-12-10 18:18:09] thiago : how do I know if im paying or getting paid the funding rate?
[2016-12-10 18:18:31] anonymous789 : positive funding rate means longs pay
[2016-12-10 18:18:36] anonymous789 : negative funding rate means shorts pay
[2016-12-10 18:18:50] thiago : what if I have a long and a short?
[2016-12-10 18:18:58] thiago : like, right now..
[2016-12-10 18:19:05] BTCDJS : thiago: good luck
[2016-12-10 18:19:13] anonymous789 : didn't know you could open long and short on xbt swap
[2016-12-10 18:19:34] anonymous789 : at the same time*
[2016-12-10 18:19:36] thiago : long xbt, short eth. . . . . . . . .
[2016-12-10 18:19:56] anonymous789 : lol okay well you'll pay on xbt
[2016-12-10 18:20:33] mjones : China dumping btc
[2016-12-10 18:20:37] anonymous789 : oh yea we breaking the channel on cny
[2016-12-10 18:20:52] BTCDJS : mjones: cool see you at 720
[2016-12-10 18:21:11] mjones : I like watching longs get rekt
[2016-12-10 18:21:22] anonymous789 : yea
[2016-12-10 18:21:35] mjones : Record amount of open contracts on xbtz16. Let's see if they can hold on
[2016-12-10 18:22:16] anonymous789 : next stop 5360ish i think
[2016-12-10 18:23:16] BTCDJS : 5051 even
[2016-12-10 18:23:28] aethlios : too much fakeouts, scummy chinese
[2016-12-10 18:23:38] anonymous789 : BTCDJS: i'm talking about like next few hours maybe
[2016-12-10 18:25:19] BTCDJS : up the stairs, down the elevator
[2016-12-10 18:35:41] anonymous789 : the bulls are really trying hard here, nearly back inside the channel again on the hourly
[2016-12-10 18:35:53] anonymous789 : cny*
[2016-12-10 18:38:59] Prince : We still riding a +40day rising wedge on the btccny daily. Once that breaks, which its getting close, big time liquidations.
[2016-12-10 18:41:29] thiago : I tought you were dead
[2016-12-10 18:41:41] anonymous789 : Prince: that's the one i'm watching
[2016-12-10 18:42:21] mjones : What's the magic number we need to break? Gotta watch for the fake out
[2016-12-10 18:42:21] anonymous789 : hourly is more my thing though
[2016-12-10 18:43:07] anonymous789 : mjones: we're at it, we need to go lower and stay lower i think for 2 consecutive candles
[2016-12-10 18:43:36] anonymous789 : and that would prob be confirmation of the shorter term rising wedge on the hourly btc/cny
[2016-12-10 18:43:44] anonymous789 : being broken*
[2016-12-10 18:44:39] Prince : Much hopium with bulls right now, ive never been more hedged on my spot collection than the last few days. Started getting sketched when there was a bear whale on finex who kept dumping but was doing some very nice work at making sure he wasent killing price with how was going about it.
[2016-12-10 18:46:22] mjones : i say 5350 CNY needs to break in a big way to cause any longers to panic.
[2016-12-10 18:49:33] Prince : agreed. When it happens its gonna be fast and vicious. People will be left holding their dicks wondering wtf just happened.
[2016-12-10 18:51:35] Prince : Could still see 5500zone again though before any of that happens.
[2016-12-10 18:52:40] anonymous789 : until then, shorters enjoy funding rate
[2016-12-10 18:59:13] Prince : Holla back
[2016-12-10 19:03:26] aethlios : west wants up but scummy xhinese with futures keep market down.
[2016-12-10 19:05:40] Tetsuo : well then the west should deposit more money to Stamp/BTC/Finex, orderbooks on the buy side don´t seem to be in bubble mode
[2016-12-10 19:07:25] aethlios : dumps happening to china, west more stable, because of arb china with 20x futures keeps market down.
[2016-12-10 19:07:28] Tetsuo : in the 2013/2014 bubble we had around 4-5x the money on the buy side @ Stamp @ 800$
[2016-12-10 19:10:25] aethlios : no futures back then, futures started around sept 2014 with okcoin
[2016-12-10 19:10:54] thomaskikansha : we had futures in 796 exchange
[2016-12-10 19:15:43] bingbongfly : aethlios: no, we had futures back in 2013 too
[2016-12-10 19:16:32] aethlios : I am talking for serious market, people started using futures with okcoin.
[2016-12-10 19:18:55] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/rV5sZJUy/
[2016-12-10 19:19:21] aethlios : next rally to 1,175. test previous ATH.
[2016-12-10 19:21:55] mjones : Btc bouncing back up
[2016-12-10 19:22:56] mjones : Chat looks good
[2016-12-10 19:23:05] mjones : Chart *
[2016-12-10 19:27:31] onyeka : hi
[2016-12-10 19:28:37] aethlios : above 1,200 starts the real bull market. first target 10,000
[2016-12-10 19:30:09] Tetsuo : so everyone can be rich? u do know how u sound right?
[2016-12-10 19:30:46] Tetsuo : "first target 10000$
[2016-12-10 19:31:37] onyeka : is there a demo version of the bitmex platform?
[2016-12-10 19:32:22] aethlios : Tetsuo: most people will get broke shorting the uptrend, a few well experienced with cold blood will make money.
[2016-12-10 19:33:00] Tetsuo : i heard that story 5000 times in the last 3 years
[2016-12-10 19:33:05] mjones : Testnet.bitmex.com onyeka you need to sign up
[2016-12-10 19:33:45] thiago : there is, but you need to ask around lol they should have a big green button
[2016-12-10 19:34:23] Tetsuo : 10000 is just delusional to be called first target, even *if* we should break ATH
[2016-12-10 19:34:42] onyeka : ok thanks mjones i will
[2016-12-10 19:35:08] Tetsuo : test.bitmex is one of mjones fishing sites, be aware
[2016-12-10 19:35:41] aethlios : 10,000 and correction to 2,200. all bull runs were at least 8 to 10 times in the past. last 120 to 1,175
[2016-12-10 19:36:50] Tetsuo : u do know how much more money it needs to pump it 10x this time?
[2016-12-10 19:37:16] aethlios : Tetsuo: much money out there
[2016-12-10 19:37:34] Tetsuo : can´t see it in western orderbooks
[2016-12-10 19:43:07] onyeka : i cannot trade with the demo version of bitmex, it say trade not submitted because of insufficent funds, can anyone help guide me on how to get a demo with funds in it to trade?
[2016-12-10 19:45:46] BTCDJS : onyeka: You can get test XBT from somewhere. But I can't remember where. Anyone?
[2016-12-10 19:46:11] BTCDJS : mjones: Where can onyeka get test XBT?
[2016-12-10 19:46:36] Prince : For 10,000 btc will need Institunational and Hedge fund money to flood in. Which still is not happening, in main part to the very evident risks associated with crypto, hedgy's need to be able to indentify possible future risks and where they might come in to play. With btc its not so easy to do that. Look at gox or finex hack. Unpredictable unless you have insider knowledge
[2016-12-10 19:46:49] onyeka : i got a test version here https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBTUSD but i still couldnt trade
[2016-12-10 19:47:30] aethlios : why don't you deposit here 50 usd in btc and trade the real market? 1 usd minimum contract.
[2016-12-10 19:47:41] mjones : go to account > deposit and you'll see 3 links
[2016-12-10 19:47:59] mjones : go to 1 link and enter your testnet bitcoin address from the deposit page. wait 1-2 minutes and you'll have some testnet btc
[2016-12-10 19:48:54] onyeka : ok but i have no idea how to trade bitcoin, i only know how to trade forex. Is it thesame principle?
[2016-12-10 19:49:08] mjones : yeah. buy low, sell high
[2016-12-10 19:49:21] aethlios : that's why start with 50 usd to learn.
[2016-12-10 19:49:22] mjones : or short high, close low
[2016-12-10 19:49:24] onyeka : ok is the profit measured in pips?
[2016-12-10 19:49:49] mjones : https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview have fun reading for a few hours
[2016-12-10 19:49:55] BTCDJS : onyeka: how do you trade forex?
[2016-12-10 19:50:13] onyeka : if bitcoin moves from 700 to 800 and i am long 100usd on that position, then how much have i gained?
[2016-12-10 19:50:15] Tetsuo : onyeka: mostly in DOGE
[2016-12-10 19:50:16] aethlios : it is like a stock, buy 774 sell 775 so profit 1 usd or 100 pips, 1 cent = 1 pip
[2016-12-10 19:51:03] onyeka : i see
[2016-12-10 19:51:07] aethlios : onyeka: (800/700-1)*100
[2016-12-10 19:51:22] aethlios : so 14.20 usd
[2016-12-10 19:52:17] onyeka : ok
[2016-12-10 19:52:59] onyeka : that mean 14.2pips in forex trading
[2016-12-10 19:53:23] onyeka : 700-800 then means 14.2pips
[2016-12-10 19:56:35] BTCDJS : onyeka: Don't worry about pips. Bitcoin moves wildly. It can move 100$ in a day.
[2016-12-10 19:57:14] BTCDJS : pips are for chickens
[2016-12-10 19:57:39] BTCDJS : and pigeons
[2016-12-10 19:57:56] onyeka : ok hahaha 100usd move would mean 700 to like 7000
[2016-12-10 19:58:48] onyeka : am i right?
[2016-12-10 19:58:53] BTCDJS : I'm talking about spot price
[2016-12-10 19:59:33] onyeka : ok
[2016-12-10 19:59:40] BTCDJS : I think its just the UI you have to get used to
[2016-12-10 20:00:20] onyeka : whats UI?
[2016-12-10 20:00:31] BTCDJS : User interface
[2016-12-10 20:00:53] BTCDJS : this site. How it works and what not
[2016-12-10 20:01:13] onyeka : ok
[2016-12-10 20:01:24] Coconuter : to the MOON
[2016-12-10 20:01:53] BTCDJS : damn it
[2016-12-10 20:20:24] mjones : ZEC almost at a double bottom or possible heading to new lows
[2016-12-10 20:23:05] mjones : can we get some info when the new xbt and zec and xbc and WIN 3 month start?
[2016-12-10 20:27:54] thiago : Coconuter: achei que tinha perdido tudo rs
[2016-12-10 20:28:43] Coconuter : quase
[2016-12-10 20:31:27] BTCDJS : Bem. Você entrou tudo?
[2016-12-10 20:31:50] Coconuter : tudo
[2016-12-10 20:32:54] BTCDJS : tudo em
[2016-12-10 20:33:58] BTCDJS : I'm using google translate and I'm guessing its shit lol
[2016-12-10 20:41:03] thiago : its fineing
[2016-12-10 21:24:43] anonymous789 : btc in slow motion again
[2016-12-10 21:35:31] king.rex : when will BitMex get scaled orders like Finex has now????
[2016-12-10 21:37:52] Rado : king.rex: you can do this by using the API
[2016-12-10 21:38:01] BTCDJS : tomorrow. you're just in time
[2016-12-10 21:47:03] OTHELLO : hi may I ask is there any commission
[2016-12-10 21:48:31] mjones : should do some sports betting during this slow period
[2016-12-10 22:07:14] wurstgelee : watching ufc, having a drink and a smoke
[2016-12-10 22:13:25] rapidtrades : no sausage?
[2016-12-10 22:15:22] mjones : always a sausage fest in here
[2016-12-10 22:24:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.010270
[2016-12-10 22:25:48] Vikzus : You were expecting ladies night?
[2016-12-10 22:29:48] mjones : eth dumping
[2016-12-10 22:33:51] Tetsuo : IT LOOK SPRETTY BAD!
[2016-12-10 22:34:05] thiago : keep talking mjones lol
[2016-12-10 22:36:12] Tetsuo : ETH will soon take BTC/USD down to a bottomless pit near you!
[2016-12-10 22:36:57] rapidtrades : Trump Picks Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson As Secretary Of State
[2016-12-10 22:37:32] thiago : was nice knowing you elon
[2016-12-10 22:40:16] PARAFFIN : hi
[2016-12-10 22:42:32] Fhenrys : how do I set a long buy if to only trigger if the price hits a certain amount?
[2016-12-10 22:42:38] Dtrade16 : Think this is the bottom for eth?
[2016-12-10 22:43:56] thiago : shhhh dont listen to trollbox
[2016-12-10 22:43:59] Tetsuo : Dtrade16: Have you heard the term " Deep tracts of hell" before?
[2016-12-10 22:44:16] Tetsuo : this is probably where the bottom will be
[2016-12-10 22:44:56] thiago : it was 2 usd in january or something lol
[2016-12-10 22:48:26] thiago : december 6, went as low as 6 usd :) 5 days ago
[2016-12-10 22:48:29] thiago : so..
[2016-12-10 23:09:32] mjones : oh shit
[2016-12-10 23:09:40] mjones : 3874 BTC just dumped on okcoin
[2016-12-10 23:09:54] Tetsuo : 400$ might hold till the end of the year!
[2016-12-10 23:11:45] wurstgelee : merely 4k is nothing
[2016-12-10 23:12:10] Tetsuo : 10000 candle on the 1m chart
[2016-12-10 23:12:37] wurstgelee : 6600?