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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-12-09 13:26:55] anonymous789 : man if i had whale money i'd not bother using leverage [2016-12-09 13:27:30] l3f : nah, big whales are like 1m in capital [2016-12-09 13:27:46] sleger : yes you would probably just leave all your bitcoins on bitfinex im sure @anonymous789 [2016-12-09 13:27:59] l3f : sleger: ah the classic mistake [2016-12-09 13:28:23] anonymous789 : i've never used bitfinex [2016-12-09 13:28:34] l3f : I made that mistake once [2016-12-09 13:28:34] l3f : it hurt [2016-12-09 13:28:37] l3f : but I've rebuilt [2016-12-09 13:29:04] anonymous789 : but now you've got shares in bitfinex right so it's win/win? [2016-12-09 13:29:26] sleger : i kept my tokens, i didnt convert [2016-12-09 13:29:35] anonymous789 : sleger: that's what i would have done [2016-12-09 13:30:25] l3f : sleger: how do you hedge against bitcoin price drops? [2016-12-09 13:30:31] l3f : with that much xbt [2016-12-09 13:30:40] sleger : just like anyone else [2016-12-09 13:30:50] l3f : cry? [2016-12-09 13:30:51] sleger : how is the quantity relevant ? [2016-12-09 13:31:06] l3f : well you it drops 5% and you take a large hit to the balls don't you? [2016-12-09 13:31:09] anonymous789 : sleger: do you think you're arrogant? [2016-12-09 13:31:21] sleger : l3f: it hits 5% just like anyone else [2016-12-09 13:31:31] sleger : anonymous789: i appear that way to inferior people I've been told [2016-12-09 13:31:55] anonymous789 : who told you that? [2016-12-09 13:32:07] sleger : other superior people [2016-12-09 13:32:17] l3f : ONE TRUE ARYAN RACE [2016-12-09 13:32:18] anonymous789 : oh so you're humble? [2016-12-09 13:32:24] sleger : yes [2016-12-09 13:32:34] anonymous789 : i see [2016-12-09 13:32:40] sleger : l3f: i'm jewish [2016-12-09 13:32:49] anonymous789 : sleger: jewish... of course [2016-12-09 13:33:03] sleger : why of course ? [2016-12-09 13:33:16] anonymous789 : it all makes sense [2016-12-09 13:33:24] sleger : are you chinese ? [2016-12-09 13:33:31] anonymous789 : i'm anonymous [2016-12-09 13:33:34] anonymous789 : i am legion [2016-12-09 13:33:36] sleger : it would make sense [2016-12-09 13:33:37] anonymous789 : expect me [2016-12-09 13:33:44] l3f : sleger: well that's awkard [2016-12-09 13:34:06] anonymous789 : l3f: yes [2016-12-09 13:34:42] anonymous789 : sleger: have you made all your wealth through crypto stuff? [2016-12-09 13:34:50] sleger : no [2016-12-09 13:35:04] l3f : anonymous789: just get a real job [2016-12-09 13:35:05] l3f : save up for a year [2016-12-09 13:35:08] l3f : live with your parents [2016-12-09 13:35:35] l3f : literally you get minimum wage and you save 50k usd a year [2016-12-09 13:35:43] l3f : and then you can be a whale as well [2016-12-09 13:35:50] sleger : min wage is 50k a year ? [2016-12-09 13:35:56] sleger : 50k is a whale ? lol [2016-12-09 13:35:59] l3f : get two jobs [2016-12-09 13:36:05] l3f : "whale" [2016-12-09 13:36:11] anonymous789 : sleger: your arrogance knows no bounds :D [2016-12-09 13:36:19] sleger : thanks [2016-12-09 13:38:45] anonymous789 : minimum wage in the uk is like 12k GBP a year [2016-12-09 13:39:01] sleger : sounds more reasonable [2016-12-09 13:39:08] l3f : look you can suck some dicks on the side [2016-12-09 13:39:08] l3f : jeeze [2016-12-09 13:39:18] anonymous789 : geez [2016-12-09 13:39:53] anonymous789 : sleger: you're not a proponent of minimum wage increase? [2016-12-09 13:40:31] sleger : of course not, stupidest idea [2016-12-09 13:41:17] anonymous789 : yeah the rich should get richer right? [2016-12-09 13:41:37] l3f : anonymous789: nah the weak should fear the strong [2016-12-09 13:41:52] anonymous789 : l3f: everyone is strong on the internet [2016-12-09 13:42:04] l3f : you know what you are [2016-12-09 13:42:12] anonymous789 : i am anonymous [2016-12-09 13:42:14] anonymous789 : i am legion [2016-12-09 13:42:16] anonymous789 : expect me [2016-12-09 13:44:11] l3f : whoever's pumping ZEC you have my everlasting gratitude [2016-12-09 13:44:44] l3f : bless is he who pumps ZEC at this fucking hour [2016-12-09 13:46:07] sleger : anonymous789: no, the ones who work and deserve it should get the rewards, rich or poor [2016-12-09 13:48:17] anonymous789 : the meek shall inherit the earth [2016-12-09 13:48:53] anonymous789 : i'm wondering who is buying btc at these levels [2016-12-09 13:48:58] anonymous789 : seems crazy [2016-12-09 13:49:15] l3f : buy it now before it hits ATH [2016-12-09 13:49:26] anonymous789 : FOMO ftw [2016-12-09 13:51:53] l3f : everyone and their mom is pumping [2016-12-09 13:52:09] anonymous789 : l3f: best time to sell then right [2016-12-09 13:52:15] l3f : no [2016-12-09 13:52:18] l3f : ride the wave [2016-12-09 13:52:22] anonymous789 : when the 90% are doing something, do the opposite? [2016-12-09 13:52:57] l3f : anonymous789: there will be a point when you're like damn it can't go any higher [2016-12-09 13:52:58] l3f : and it'll move higher [2016-12-09 13:53:04] l3f : and you're like fuck I need to buy [2016-12-09 13:53:06] l3f : then we dump [2016-12-09 13:53:19] l3f : we aren't there yet [2016-12-09 13:53:22] anonymous789 : yeah that's the stock markets :D [2016-12-09 13:53:56] anonymous789 : i bet the dow jones continues flying past 20k [2016-12-09 14:21:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCZ16`: Buy 430 @ 5470.400000 [2016-12-09 14:24:38] rapidtrades : this stupid rally man [2016-12-09 14:24:51] sleger : it wont stop before you buy [2016-12-09 14:25:09] rapidtrades : im already net long jew [2016-12-09 14:25:25] sleger : maybe but not much that's why you're upset [2016-12-09 14:25:58] rapidtrades : yes i used 1/2 my usual size cos i didn't think it will go far [2016-12-09 14:26:16] sleger : its going higher [2016-12-09 14:26:39] rapidtrades : don't u think it's strange how it keeps going up while daily range stay small? look at the atr [2016-12-09 14:26:46] anonymous789 : gonna touch 780 then collapse like the world trade center [2016-12-09 14:27:24] rapidtrades : ATR peaked 25 days ago and its down since then [2016-12-09 14:27:42] rapidtrades : its been flat for the last 10 days [2016-12-09 14:28:11] sleger : atr = ? [2016-12-09 14:28:15] anonymous789 : ATR getting flatter says to me that the longs are not very confident [2016-12-09 14:28:23] anonymous789 : average true range [2016-12-09 14:28:49] anonymous789 : this pump is just feeling so pathetic and weak [2016-12-09 14:28:52] brouk : rapidtrades: where can i see ATR? [2016-12-09 14:29:12] rapidtrades : sleger: ATR shows daily range, high to low basically [2016-12-09 14:29:17] sleger : ok [2016-12-09 14:29:39] anonymous789 : finally some kinda action now [2016-12-09 14:29:46] rapidtrades : this is a copy of the rally last november, december, also on declinining atr [2016-12-09 14:30:07] anonymous789 : this thing has been so boring [2016-12-09 14:30:39] rapidtrades : brouk: trading view [2016-12-09 14:30:50] anonymous789 : pretty solid rejection at the 5400 cny level [2016-12-09 14:30:53] rapidtrades : and most charting packages [2016-12-09 14:31:02] brouk : rapidtrades: ty [2016-12-09 14:31:25] Velancry : when does the bull drop it balls [2016-12-09 14:31:47] brouk : Velancry: when you go all in long [2016-12-09 14:31:51] sleger : btcjpy going higher [2016-12-09 14:31:58] sleger : dont ignore the yellow bitcoins [2016-12-09 14:32:06] anonymous789 : sleger: that's racist [2016-12-09 14:32:23] sleger : bitcoins dont have colors dummy [2016-12-09 14:32:34] rapidtrades : colored coins do [2016-12-09 14:32:38] sleger : you're the one making the racist assumption [2016-12-09 14:32:42] anonymous789 : why can't we all just live in peace [2016-12-09 14:32:45] rapidtrades : i mean african-american coins sorry [2016-12-09 14:32:50] anonymous789 : we should all see in black and white [2016-12-09 14:33:05] sleger : why you want to ignore the asians ? [2016-12-09 14:33:20] anonymous789 : i never said anything about asians [2016-12-09 14:33:33] sleger : you said only black and white [2016-12-09 14:33:42] anonymous789 : you're making that assumption based on your own saying of yellow bitcoins which meansi was right about it being a racist comment [2016-12-09 14:33:51] anonymous789 : well i mean black and white [2016-12-09 14:33:53] anonymous789 : like the old tv [2016-12-09 14:33:55] anonymous789 : tvs* [2016-12-09 14:34:11] anonymous789 : not literally black skin and white skin [2016-12-09 14:34:40] anonymous789 : we are all one humanity people [2016-12-09 14:34:54] anonymous789 : (except for jews) [2016-12-09 14:34:59] anonymous789 : j/k :D [2016-12-09 14:36:00] rapidtrades : only $5 premium on china atm [2016-12-09 14:36:20] anonymous789 : shooting star forming on XBT/USD? [2016-12-09 14:36:23] anonymous789 : hourly* [2016-12-09 14:36:42] rapidtrades : japan still buying like crazy [2016-12-09 14:37:00] anonymous789 : shooting star also on cny i see? [2016-12-09 14:44:06] Rado : anonymous789: don't look for signs of bearishness [2016-12-09 14:44:11] Rado : just follow the price [2016-12-09 14:44:47] Rado : analyzing it too much does not help [2016-12-09 14:45:05] Rado : That's why I love bots [2016-12-09 14:45:11] Rado : they remove all opinion [2016-12-09 14:49:42] thiago : where can i get a bot? [2016-12-09 14:49:59] rapidtrades : u can buy one from rado [2016-12-09 14:50:26] thiago : I want the same model that won the anniversary contest lol [2016-12-09 14:53:59] thiago : "Big Spender: Trader with the most Bitcoin turnover summed across all BitMEX products. The winning trader, Username: XBOT, traded 4,237.76 XBT during the 24 hour contest period." lol [2016-12-09 15:01:32] anonymous789 : Rado: always analysing is how i do, since i don't use stop losses :P [2016-12-09 15:02:23] Rado : that's fine, but you are always running a risk that you convince yourself of something that is not there [2016-12-09 15:02:59] anonymous789 : essentially you run that risk every time you open a position though [2016-12-09 15:04:56] rapidtrades : not if u have rules and stop loss [2016-12-09 15:07:31] anonymous789 : stop losses and stringent rules come with their own problems though. For example, you could open a trade having analysed a move correctly but just after you open your position, the stop loss is hit and then the move goes in your favour but you've already lost [2016-12-09 15:08:04] anonymous789 : that's actually why i don't use stop losses [2016-12-09 15:10:21] Rado : anonymous789: that could happen, but you should not feel that you missed a trade [2016-12-09 15:10:39] Rado : opportunities are always there [2016-12-09 15:10:49] anonymous789 : it happened to me too much in the past, i've found more success not using a stop loss and relying on my analysis [2016-12-09 15:11:10] Rado : you know every trader has different things that work for them [2016-12-09 15:11:16] anonymous789 : my analysis isn't me massaging my own ego, if i feel the trend has reversed i'll close at loss [2016-12-09 15:11:19] Rado : so yes there is no universal formula [2016-12-09 15:11:34] anonymous789 : like [2016-12-09 15:11:51] Rado : are you short now? [2016-12-09 15:11:54] anonymous789 : i will close probably at 790ish [2016-12-09 15:11:56] anonymous789 : yeah short [2016-12-09 15:12:01] Rado : I am long [2016-12-09 15:12:02] Rado : :-) [2016-12-09 15:12:03] Rekted : Rado: yes he is shorting is mom [2016-12-09 15:12:08] anonymous789 : but i personally don't feel it gets to 790 [2016-12-09 15:12:19] anonymous789 : before a quick correction [2016-12-09 15:12:24] Rado : it's going a lot higher than 790 [2016-12-09 15:12:35] anonymous789 : eventually yes [2016-12-09 15:12:35] Rekted : Rado: agree with u [2016-12-09 15:12:57] Rado : if you are talking about today then yes [2016-12-09 15:13:06] Rado : you don't know when a move will start [2016-12-09 15:13:50] anonymous789 : like i said should it suddenly move to 790, i'll close and take the hit [2016-12-09 15:14:04] anonymous789 : but i see a correction happening first [2016-12-09 15:14:21] rapidtrades : anonymous789: when u don't use a sl you're just warehousing risk [2016-12-09 15:14:41] rapidtrades : u miss out on few small losses but end up taking the big one up yo ass [2016-12-09 15:15:02] thiago : exactly [2016-12-09 15:15:12] anonymous789 : rapidtrades: true [2016-12-09 15:15:39] anonymous789 : but like i said, the small losses strategy never really has worked for me in the past [2016-12-09 15:18:35] Rado : anonymous789: why would you short before a break down? [2016-12-09 15:18:56] Rado : I don't see anything that tells me there will be a correction [2016-12-09 15:19:08] anonymous789 : really? [2016-12-09 15:19:10] Rado : there might be, but you are jumping the gun and anticipating [2016-12-09 15:19:26] anonymous789 : we're so toppy right now... none of these moves up have been confident [2016-12-09 15:19:49] Rado : none of the moves down as well [2016-12-09 15:19:54] rapidtrades : i agree with both of you :) [2016-12-09 15:20:26] Rado : I am trading FX in the mean time :-) [2016-12-09 15:20:40] Rado : rapidtrades: did you se USDJPY move [2016-12-09 15:21:04] rapidtrades : define see [2016-12-09 15:21:28] Rado : lol [2016-12-09 15:21:37] Rado : 114.30 to 115.20 [2016-12-09 15:21:43] Rado : I guess you see it all [2016-12-09 15:22:08] Rado : ETH longs at all time high [2016-12-09 15:22:13] Rado : very interesting [2016-12-09 15:22:20] rapidtrades : yeah still long usdjpy [2016-12-09 15:22:42] rapidtrades : i don't really watch forex that closely since i mostly trade daily and up [2016-12-09 15:22:49] brouk : anonymous789: when you dont use SL you are also wasting more time [2016-12-09 15:23:28] Rado : how does he sleep? [2016-12-09 15:23:59] rapidtrades : he prolly flats before bed [2016-12-09 15:24:09] Rado : I guess [2016-12-09 15:24:37] rapidtrades : i don't think i'll ever go back to intraday trading [2016-12-09 15:24:55] rapidtrades : so much stress and chart watching [2016-12-09 15:25:16] brouk : how long do you hold positions on average now? [2016-12-09 15:25:49] rapidtrades : depends, from few days to 2-3 months sometimes [2016-12-09 15:26:11] Rado : for me it's a few days [2016-12-09 15:26:13] rapidtrades : if it keeps going in my favor i'll never close :) [2016-12-09 15:26:20] Rado : when a move happens I get out [2016-12-09 15:26:32] brouk : if you never close you also never profit [2016-12-09 15:26:57] rapidtrades : in theory yes :) but all trends end eventually [2016-12-09 15:29:27] Rado : S&P 500 keeps going [2016-12-09 15:29:42] brouk : so is this mega bull run cycle a real thing? [2016-12-09 15:29:57] Rado : no one knows [2016-12-09 15:30:08] brouk : what do you think? [2016-12-09 15:30:12] Rado : you can only say after the fact [2016-12-09 15:30:28] brouk : well thats obvious [2016-12-09 15:30:31] Rado : when BTC is at $1250 a bunch of people will say I told you so [2016-12-09 15:30:46] Rado : the problem: they did not buy at 770 and sell at 1250 [2016-12-09 15:31:13] brouk : yeah the people who did wouldnt tell you [2016-12-09 15:31:13] Rado : they just knew it will happen [2016-12-09 15:31:29] brouk : knew? if they knew they would buy [2016-12-09 15:31:31] Rado : it's one thing to have a feeling and another to tarde [2016-12-09 15:31:51] Rado : most feeling people have it's just gas :-) [2016-12-09 15:32:03] rapidtrades : sleger: PARIS DECLARES WAR ON RATS [2016-12-09 15:32:17] rapidtrades : hide your chipmunk [2016-12-09 15:32:25] Rado : ha ha [2016-12-09 15:32:35] Rado : sleger lives in Paris? [2016-12-09 15:32:46] Rado : I love Paris [2016-12-09 15:32:52] rapidtrades : smtimes :) i think he's in London atm [2016-12-09 15:33:27] rapidtrades : that was a bloomberg headline just now.... [2016-12-09 15:34:00] Rado : Bloomberg is very worried about the state of the rats [2016-12-09 15:34:04] Rado : asholes [2016-12-09 15:34:32] Rado : ETH at 0.01111 [2016-12-09 15:35:06] rapidtrades : Dollar surging, SP500 surging [2016-12-09 15:35:13] Rado : I think I am going to double up my long on BTC [2016-12-09 15:35:23] rapidtrades : markets really getting ahead of themselves on this Trump rally [2016-12-09 15:35:29] Rado : based on anonymous789 being short [2016-12-09 15:35:31] Rado : :-) [2016-12-09 15:36:07] brouk : decision making out of trollbox? not recommended [2016-12-09 15:36:30] Rado : it's a joke brouk [2016-12-09 15:36:31] rapidtrades : technically it's against the trollbox [2016-12-09 15:40:02] Rado : Bitstamp also raising funds on BnkToTheFuture [2016-12-09 15:40:36] rapidtrades : cmon rly? [2016-12-09 15:41:10] rapidtrades : bitfinex still stuck at 28mil with 20mil own funds [2016-12-09 15:41:25] Rado : https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/2-e99941df-c18a-4f94-b2f5-9877e809b5e4 [2016-12-09 15:42:11] rapidtrades : 2% equity for 1.1mil [2016-12-09 15:42:26] rapidtrades : so total value 55mil...not outrageous like shitfinex [2016-12-09 15:42:29] Rado : customer growth chart is interesting [2016-12-09 15:42:45] Rado : in terms of more people are getting on the BTC train [2016-12-09 15:43:00] Rado : rapidtrades: how much is Finex valuation [2016-12-09 15:44:07] rapidtrades : 70mil for 40% [2016-12-09 15:44:21] rapidtrades : so 175mil [2016-12-09 15:44:30] rapidtrades : crazy for lawsuit timebomb [2016-12-09 15:47:55] mjones : In 3 weeks the xbtz16 open contracts went up 1,300,000. And new one opens in 1 week (i think) [2016-12-09 15:51:12] rullwull : the correction may take place during the last weeks of xbtz [2016-12-09 15:51:31] mjones : most people will have closed their xbtz16 position by then [2016-12-09 15:51:43] mjones : and opened in the new one [2016-12-09 15:52:41] rullwull : if the correction starts its better to open longs for new quarterlies which will be available in one week [2016-12-09 15:58:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: Sell 45000 @ 5437.500000 [2016-12-09 15:58:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: Sell 615 @ 5431.700000 [2016-12-09 15:59:01] mjones : some bullish people on xbcz16 getting rekt [2016-12-09 16:02:26] thiago : jeez [2016-12-09 16:05:06] mjones : here we go. we be dumping [2016-12-09 16:05:31] mjones : down 59 cny on okcoin [2016-12-09 16:06:01] rullwull : hope this move will be impulsive, tired of sideways [2016-12-09 16:08:46] mjones : 5350 cny doesnt hold then see if 5330 cny does again [2016-12-09 16:09:10] anonymous789 : we're out of the channel, it's going lower i think [2016-12-09 16:09:42] anonymous789 : afk [2016-12-09 16:10:13] brouk : anonymous789: you wish [2016-12-09 16:15:03] mjones : uptrend is at 5325 cny right now. so gotta break that [2016-12-09 16:29:38] thiago : gonna buy nintendo stocks lol [2016-12-09 16:39:20] Zen Trader : Nintendo should be doing VR. I want to BE Mario. [2016-12-09 16:40:20] Zen Trader : wait what on heavenly earth is ETCWin [2016-12-09 16:40:42] Zen Trader : Is Bitmex just trolling ETC [2016-12-09 16:40:59] Zen Trader : I love it [2016-12-09 16:41:59] l3f : https://twitter.com/bitmexrekt/status/807253037056225280 [2016-12-09 16:42:01] l3f : Lol [2016-12-09 16:42:15] l3f : so glad I put some shitposts into the bot [2016-12-09 16:46:38] thiago : didnt get it [2016-12-09 17:13:41] thiago : who is waverider? [2016-12-09 17:36:29] anonymous789 : looks like a pretty clear bear flag forming on the daily [2016-12-09 17:37:01] anonymous789 : btc/cny that is [2016-12-09 18:36:55] Rekted : anonymous789: yes ofc, it's really bearish hold it [2016-12-09 18:37:10] Rekted : easy money [2016-12-09 18:48:04] mjones : etc going back up. china getting excited [2016-12-09 19:07:23] Tetsuo : Hidden BTCC IRC -invite only- chat says - listing will be SOON [2016-12-09 19:09:32] rapidtrades : wat [2016-12-09 19:12:21] sleger : soon [2016-12-09 19:12:51] rapidtrades : soon wat? [2016-12-09 19:13:04] sleger : whis [2016-12-09 19:13:08] mjones : fuck it. yolo long etc [2016-12-09 19:13:11] mjones : dont let me down china [2016-12-09 19:14:27] mjones : etc 15 days going sideways here at the bottom [2016-12-09 19:16:09] mjones : 400 BTC holding the price away from 0.002 on polo [2016-12-09 19:16:13] rapidtrades : are they announcing adding etc? [2016-12-09 19:16:27] mjones : any good etc news and that shit can explode [2016-12-09 19:17:32] Tetsuo : they already confirmed that they will add ETC 3-4 weeks ago,official listing will be SOON, whales are done accumulating [2016-12-09 19:17:33] thomaskikansha : buys kicking in [2016-12-09 19:18:37] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: how do u know it will be soon [2016-12-09 19:18:41] mjones : lucky person longed at 0.00106 earlier [2016-12-09 19:20:13] mjones : no one talks about ETC in the polo trollbox [2016-12-09 19:21:11] rapidtrades : polo IQ < bitmex IQ < general IQ [2016-12-09 19:23:04] mjones : if i get rekt i blame Tetsuo [2016-12-09 19:23:26] sleger : i had etc long, and the settlement took it away from me, stupid 7 days contracts [2016-12-09 19:23:59] rapidtrades : yeah 7d is too low [2016-12-09 19:24:01] mjones : yeah [2016-12-09 19:24:13] Tetsuo : fukk you bitmex [2016-12-09 19:24:18] mjones : i'll go ask our chinese friends in the other chatbox about etc [2016-12-09 19:24:25] rapidtrades : if you only list 1 contract it should be 30d min [2016-12-09 19:26:59] mjones : i'm sure some etc whale won't get the memo and dump on polo [2016-12-09 19:29:58] rapidtrades : so are we sure this is happening today? cos i need to do shit [2016-12-09 19:30:00] rapidtrades : like sleep [2016-12-09 19:33:31] aethlios : does tradingview has bitmex btc chart for 3M and swap? can't find [2016-12-09 19:33:35] mjones : i couldnt find any info and china is sleeping right now [2016-12-09 19:35:35] mjones : any big pump and most likely ADL for everyone in ETC [2016-12-09 19:36:03] BitMEX_Sam : aethlios: Just search by the symbol [2016-12-09 19:36:08] BitMEX_Sam : Search `XBTUSD` or `XBTZ16` [2016-12-09 19:37:03] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks! [2016-12-09 19:38:16] rapidtrades : aethlios: did u find it [2016-12-09 19:38:40] Tetsuo : mjones: i don´t think that anyone bside the mm would be that mad and short the coin of the future, so no ADL [2016-12-09 19:39:08] aethlios : rapidtrades: yes, I bought pro+ and you can create spread pairs, so created the okcoin 3M with stamp. [2016-12-09 19:39:52] rapidtrades : cool [2016-12-09 19:39:57] aethlios : want to create bitmex and okcoin 3M spread but bitmex 3M is not continue, it starts new symbol every 3 months. [2016-12-09 19:40:29] aethlios : rapidtrades: https://www.tradingview.com/wiki/Spread_Charts#Bitcoin_Arbitrage [2016-12-09 19:40:54] aethlios : check last part which shows arb between euro and usd pair [2016-12-09 19:42:02] rapidtrades : neat [2016-12-09 19:46:11] rapidtrades : aethlios: so that example shows the price difference between btcusd and btceur pairs on bitstamp? [2016-12-09 19:48:07] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: i can't find the swap on TV [2016-12-09 19:48:28] aethlios : rapidtrades: shows the absolute difference in usd terms, after adjusting for currency shows in what currency is cheaper or more expensive. but I will use kraken and bitmex swap because of liquidity and cheap commission. [2016-12-09 19:48:42] aethlios : rapidtrades: xbtusd type [2016-12-09 19:49:25] rapidtrades : ah xbt right [2016-12-09 19:49:51] rapidtrades : kraken and bitmex are special [2016-12-09 19:50:26] mjones : COO from BTCC confirms ETC integration plans: “It’s something we plan to do - no timeframe yet.” [2016-12-09 19:50:29] mjones : 32 days ago [2016-12-09 19:50:37] rapidtrades : pfff [2016-12-09 19:50:41] rapidtrades : SELL SELL SELL [2016-12-09 19:52:09] Tetsuo : we sell on the day it get´s listed, 3-500% above the current price. [2016-12-09 19:52:41] rapidtrades : so u will wait 30 days to get paid? [2016-12-09 19:52:51] rapidtrades : what about ur drug habit? [2016-12-09 19:53:17] mjones : nice hat http://i.imgur.com/fZoWif4.jpg [2016-12-09 19:54:52] mjones : eth pumping [2016-12-09 19:55:11] thiago : good moment for a short [2016-12-09 20:12:02] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/mRCovzEM/ [2016-12-09 20:13:04] aethlios : daily chart of 3M okcoin price divided by swap price here, if substract 1 you have % of the premium, so interesting to trade that. Looks like the VIX index [2016-12-09 20:16:15] thiago : someone actually does the math? I was just following tetsuo insidings. . . [2016-12-09 20:25:56] sleger : nothing to do with the vix index though [2016-12-09 20:35:36] CaptainDean : Isn't the Vix index related to Rave ? [2016-12-09 20:36:05] Tetsuo : thiago: it has been confimed, look : https://blockchain.info/de/tx/3b023220ba3eb9a1dd319fe9b387cfc2f6344d13d05507cdabb6346b780b1c8f about 476 times already, ETC will go to the moon [2016-12-09 20:36:22] CaptainDean : "Vicks" [2016-12-09 20:36:25] CaptainDean : ;-) [2016-12-09 20:37:26] Tetsuo : https://alfredeaker.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/supervixens-russ-meyer-poster.jpg?w=640&h=476 [2016-12-09 20:38:45] aethlios : finex created an OTC market. [2016-12-09 20:43:14] Tetsuo : can i buy large chunks of Finex shares there? [2016-12-09 20:48:34] aethlios : Tetsuo: shares not tradeable (from what I know) [2016-12-09 21:51:39] BTCDJS : ? 666 ? [2016-12-09 21:52:49] BitMEX_Sam : :o [2016-12-09 21:54:17] BTCDJS : ? [2016-12-09 21:55:23] BTCDJS : https://youtu.be/XBv0D3k1fsA [2016-12-09 22:50:41] arbitrage001 : good morning, fellow trolls [2016-12-09 22:51:07] arbitrage001 : how is crypto treating everyone? [2016-12-09 22:53:06] BTCDJS : Like we belong here [2016-12-09 23:10:59] arbitrage001 : aethlios: looks like finex want to operate like a bank [2016-12-09 23:11:43] arbitrage001 : not a bad idea, i know many traders use btc-e just because of the usd code they offer [2016-12-09 23:12:27] mjones : rip etc [2016-12-09 23:12:43] arbitrage001 : bubble burst already? [2016-12-09 23:13:10] mjones : yeah . someone sold 0.0001% of the total supply and poof [2016-12-09 23:13:31] arbitrage001 : thought btcchina will offer etc [2016-12-09 23:13:41] arbitrage001 : and then the nex exchange etcwin [2016-12-09 23:13:46] mjones : we'll save that rumor for another day [2016-12-09 23:13:59] mjones : already used it today [2016-12-09 23:14:21] arbitrage001 : i see [2016-12-09 23:14:31] arbitrage001 : china said they will ban btc just now [2016-12-09 23:14:39] arbitrage001 : sell!!!! [2016-12-09 23:14:56] mjones : doesnt seem to be working any more [2016-12-09 23:17:08] arbitrage001 : vitalik said he is quitting and going to retire in hawaii [2016-12-09 23:56:20] mjones : BTC still king. it can go to 4000 now [2016-12-09 23:57:51] arbitrage001 : 20% correction? [2016-12-10 00:00:20] mjones : eth dumping. arbitrage001 was right [2016-12-10 00:00:38] arbitrage001 : mjones: lol no [2016-12-10 00:00:47] mjones : o [2016-12-10 00:00:57] arbitrage001 : lots of new changes at finex [2016-12-10 00:01:04] mjones : so i've heard [2016-12-10 00:01:05] arbitrage001 : attitude at management change [2016-12-10 00:01:17] mjones : i wouldnt know since the PR guy quit [2016-12-10 00:01:47] arbitrage001 : guess people always act arrogant when they are the king [2016-12-10 00:02:06] mjones : ya [2016-12-10 00:02:12] arbitrage001 : then change attitude when they are in deep trouble [2016-12-10 00:02:49] mjones : i wonder how those former btc whales are doing [2016-12-10 00:02:50] shiroe : Rejected breakout eth, breakout on BTC. double win! [2016-12-10 00:03:05] arbitrage001 : what former whales? [2016-12-10 00:03:47] mjones : whales who now look at their btc in other wallets thanks to bitfinex [2016-12-10 00:04:35] arbitrage001 : hardware wallet only cost around 100 usd [2016-12-10 00:04:48] mjones : exchange costs $0 [2016-12-10 00:05:01] arbitrage001 : doubt whales store more than half of their holding at exchange [2016-12-10 00:05:08] arbitrage001 : for no reason [2016-12-10 00:05:11] mjones : true [2016-12-10 00:11:10] shiroe : Whales like the twins? Why will they cashout. lol [2016-12-10 00:15:04] arbitrage001 : shiroe: money is only useful if you spend it or use it for business? [2016-12-10 00:15:59] mjones : conduct business in BTC only [2016-12-10 00:16:19] arbitrage001 : still a long way to go [2016-12-10 00:16:56] arbitrage001 : possibly never [2016-12-10 00:19:16] mjones : cause ZEC would be a much better choice [2016-12-10 00:25:23] JuriFX : Is there a way to get complete history of futures like 7 day, because the chart obviously shows only the last 7 days of price. Something like a continuos contract chart which concatenates all periods into one to show proper history would be great [2016-12-10 00:26:23] BitMEX_Sam : JuriFX: It already does that [2016-12-10 00:26:25] BitMEX_Sam : Just zoom out. [2016-12-10 00:28:34] JuriFX : BitMEX_Sam: Oh thanks, sorry you're right, just checked ETH7D and it goes back to november. This applies only to new launched products... Thanks [2016-12-10 00:28:52] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: No problem, let me know if you have any other questions [2016-12-10 01:11:24] mjones : btc [2016-12-10 01:11:25] mjones : new high [2016-12-10 01:12:20] arbitrage001 : premium new high also [2016-12-10 01:12:23] Techemy : yes fomo like never before [2016-12-10 01:12:25] arbitrage001 : if annualized [2016-12-10 01:12:43] arbitrage001 : short term new high, that is [2016-12-10 01:13:34] mjones : short the rally folks. that's the only way we'll go higher when you close [2016-12-10 01:14:49] mjones : 4650 BTC showing on the sell side on okcoin [2016-12-10 01:25:49] shiroe : someones getting rekt? :P [2016-12-10 01:25:56] shiroe : Wait for the rekt train! chuchu [2016-12-10 01:27:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 975 @ 772.02 [2016-12-10 01:41:39] thiago : bitmex should have a demo account for beginners [2016-12-10 01:42:26] l3f : always bet on bitcoin [2016-12-10 01:42:38] l3f : thiago: you can use the testnet with play money [2016-12-10 01:42:46] l3f : they* [2016-12-10 01:43:09] thiago : thank you [2016-12-10 01:43:15] thiago : how do I acess that? [2016-12-10 01:43:35] l3f : testnet.bitmex.com [2016-12-10 01:46:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: Sell 40 @ 5481.500000 [2016-12-10 01:46:12] KingTuna : lorde this could go $1k on a bull rally easy or dump to low 600s [2016-12-10 01:46:47] sleger : thanks for your great insight tuna can [2016-12-10 01:47:59] rms : i see it more like it could test 730 or 740 or go to $1k [2016-12-10 01:48:03] rms : but upside is higher than downside right now [2016-12-10 01:48:19] rms : except for bitcoin's all too frequent black swan exchange hacking events [2016-12-10 01:48:33] KingTuna : haha yes [2016-12-10 01:49:58] thiago : just hang on until 20 january.. 10 stupid trump tweets and we sure have btc at 10k [2016-12-10 01:53:07] l3f : OMG the price may go UP or DOWN! [2016-12-10 01:53:12] l3f : stop the presses [2016-12-10 01:53:40] mjones : china bullwhale bot is bound to get hacked and market buy btc up to 9999 cny any moment [2016-12-10 01:54:00] l3f : one finger slip [2016-12-10 01:54:03] l3f : is all we need [2016-12-10 01:54:09] l3f : just fat finger that buy [2016-12-10 02:32:27] poly24 : How are people still bag holding for zcash?! It is waaaay overpriced and will be until at least .05 BTC. You can't tell me it is worth 4x eth right now lol [2016-12-10 02:33:10] poly24 : .05 btc would stilll be more than 4x eth [2016-12-10 02:44:18] mjones : wat [2016-12-10 03:02:18] l3f : Sorry but eth is worth zero [2016-12-10 03:18:45] mjones : i'm shorting -500 eth contracts right now [2016-12-10 03:19:00] mjones : it's worth less than 0 that bitmex is paying me to short it [2016-12-10 03:19:44] mjones : okcoin 145 cny away from new yearly high [2016-12-10 03:20:17] mjones : i dunno who is shorting xbtz16 so hard [2016-12-10 03:20:40] mjones : but when it goes up to being $20-$25 higher I will thank you [2016-12-10 03:52:05] rapidtrades : wtf is up with this rally man...moving at $2-3 per day [2016-12-10 03:56:05] rapidtrades : looool check out the archive [2016-12-10 03:56:17] rapidtrades : it pulled posts from 2014 at the very start [2016-12-10 03:56:44] rapidtrades : Welcome to bitmex we are live lol [2016-12-10 03:57:06] rapidtrades : dam laisee has beeen here since the start [2016-12-10 04:00:18] rapidtrades : ''sleger : i dont understand the size, how much is 100 contracts ?'' [2016-12-10 04:00:29] rapidtrades : LOL sleger at this humble begginings ^^^ [2016-12-10 04:05:17] BigDaddyBigDick : Lmao [2016-12-10 04:08:44] Rado : rapidtrades: ha ha [2016-12-10 04:08:47] Rado : that's funny [2016-12-10 04:08:52] Rado : I am going to save this one [2016-12-10 04:09:00] Rado : 'sleger : i dont understand the size, how much is 100 contracts ?'' [2016-12-10 04:12:03] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: where do you pull up archieve from 2014? [2016-12-10 04:13:41] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: i just clicked on archive and it pulled it...i see now its gone [2016-12-10 04:13:52] rapidtrades : oh it's back! [2016-12-10 04:14:21] arbitrage001 : my archieve link here only last a day or two [2016-12-10 04:14:34] rapidtrades : look at the top [2016-12-10 04:14:49] rapidtrades : it's mixed 2014/2016 [2016-12-10 04:15:11] arbitrage001 : top line [2016-12-10 04:15:13] arbitrage001 : [2016-12-08 09:57:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 216 @ 0.011450 [2016-12-10 04:15:48] rapidtrades : hmm try again? [2016-12-10 04:16:02] arbitrage001 : [2016-12-08 10:33:01] anonymous789 : funding rate is stupid [2016-12-10 04:16:15] rapidtrades : try again? [2016-12-10 04:16:23] mjones : [2016-12-08 10:33:01] anonymous789 : funding rate is stupid [2016-12-10 04:16:24] arbitrage001 : same [2016-12-10 04:16:44] rapidtrades : dunno what to tell u, smtimes it works, smtimes it doesn't [2016-12-10 04:16:50] rapidtrades : it's obv a glitch [2016-12-10 04:17:03] mjones : [2016-12-08 10:40:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 133050 @ 779.66 **EPIC REKT** [2016-12-10 04:17:15] arbitrage001 : you ever clear your web browser cache? [2016-12-10 04:17:19] arbitrage001 : in 2 years [2016-12-10 04:17:27] rapidtrades : :) [2016-12-10 04:18:33] arbitrage001 : do you ever clean your room? [2016-12-10 04:18:36] arbitrage001 : lol [2016-12-10 06:15:32] mjones : shits so boring. hack another altwhale and dump their whole account [2016-12-10 06:16:54] mjones : 5460 CNY probably get hit soon then another dump [2016-12-10 06:17:25] rapidtrades : anyone has simplefx account? i need the rollover rates for eurusd, audusd and usdjpy [2016-12-10 06:17:40] rapidtrades : their site is shit and don't feel like downloading the plaform [2016-12-10 06:19:46] rapidtrades : holy shit what's wrong with their website [2016-12-10 06:20:16] JamesPolo : Simple fx are legit? [2016-12-10 06:20:35] rapidtrades : i dont think so [2016-12-10 06:20:50] JamesPolo : Ever withdraw? [2016-12-10 06:21:11] rapidtrades : ^ haven't used them like i said [2016-12-10 06:35:12] ysl : testing [2016-12-10 06:49:42] shiroe : i am testing as well [2016-12-10 07:17:23] mjones : awe shit here we go. ETC heading back up [2016-12-10 07:17:29] mjones : start the rumor mill back up. [2016-12-10 07:30:19] mjones : China wakes up and etc goes up [2016-12-10 08:26:39] rullwull : rapidtrades: rates are there https://simplefx.com/legalDocuments/ [2016-12-10 08:53:20] aethlios : does bitmex xbtusd spot index exists on tradingview? what is the ticker? [2016-12-10 09:27:08] BitMEX_Wally : aethlios: Ticker is `BITMEX:XBTUSD` https://www.tradingview.com/chart/W3o0xzEq/ [2016-12-10 09:29:24] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: Hi, I found the swap, I want the spot index that bitmex uses (kaiko) [2016-12-10 09:29:35] BitMEX_Wally : Ahh sorry, I misread [2016-12-10 09:29:44] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD [2016-12-10 09:31:54] BitMEX_Wally : aethlios: I cannot find Kaiko on there, you could enter the formula into TradingView though: `0.5*OKCOIN:BTCUSD + 0.5*BITSTAMP:BTCUSD`