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[2016-12-08 19:53:07] elmorte : yeah....but mine goes to 11
[2016-12-08 19:53:13] arbitrage001 : i am not convinced eth hype is not over
[2016-12-08 19:53:37] arbitrage001 : ralied over 30% from the low
[2016-12-08 19:53:54] arbitrage001 : there is literary no support if it can go that low
[2016-12-08 19:54:25] elmorte : There's all the ethheads
[2016-12-08 20:01:21] blaat : ZEC on the other hand..
[2016-12-08 20:22:48] TB : arbitrage001: why did eth drop so much, you know?
[2016-12-08 20:27:53] arbitrage001 : TB: my guess is the china factor
[2016-12-08 20:28:09] arbitrage001 : etc is the choosen by the chinese
[2016-12-08 20:28:13] arbitrage001 : for whatever reason
[2016-12-08 20:28:55] TB : arbitrage001: thx makes sense
[2016-12-08 20:30:44] cookielito : Never seen btc this stable
[2016-12-08 20:58:34] rullwull : calm before the storm
[2016-12-08 20:59:38] mjones : BTC gonna skip the $800's and head straight for $900+
[2016-12-08 21:06:20] brasska : im waiting when btc hits 2013 high
[2016-12-08 21:08:05] brasska : however a strong correction is possible before the next leg up
[2016-12-08 21:22:12] cookielito : Downward just for a second
[2016-12-08 21:43:11] Rizky : feels like wants to break 800 very soon
[2016-12-08 21:47:47] thiago : cant even break 770
[2016-12-08 21:51:38] Rizky : Patience, Iago...
[2016-12-08 21:51:44] Rizky : *Thiago
[2016-12-08 21:51:50] Rizky : (that worked out well)
[2016-12-08 21:52:25] thiago : stupidest thing of the day: long eth
[2016-12-08 21:57:09] m3s : ETH news coming
[2016-12-08 21:57:18] m3s : maybe
[2016-12-08 21:57:23] m3s : :D
[2016-12-08 21:57:33] thiago : which news?
[2016-12-08 21:58:09] m3s : metropolis something
[2016-12-08 21:58:49] thiago : hope comes soon enough to save my long lol
[2016-12-08 22:01:09] m3s : how deep you in?
[2016-12-08 22:01:52] thiago : actually not so much, its just, making mistakes sucks lol
[2016-12-08 22:02:07] thiago : bought at 0.01104 @-@
[2016-12-08 22:02:13] m3s : cause news wont be out for 2 weeks probably
[2016-12-08 22:02:26] m3s : should bounce back
[2016-12-08 22:02:43] m3s : but longing 0.015 or higher super risky
[2016-12-08 23:04:23] mjones : lets all long the btc dip. Leeroy Jenkins!!!!!!!!!!
[2016-12-08 23:11:52] thiago : you sure?
[2016-12-08 23:12:34] mjones : no
[2016-12-08 23:12:59] thiago : rsi looks fine tho
[2016-12-08 23:16:25] thiago : where is everybody? .-.
[2016-12-08 23:17:16] cookielito : wheres bad bad leroy jenkins at??
[2016-12-08 23:23:21] mjones : everyone got rekt
[2016-12-08 23:25:32] laisee : no survivors?
[2016-12-08 23:32:19] mjones : like the titanic, no survivors
[2016-12-08 23:37:00] Tetsuo : cold wallet at Stamp has arrived. I´m ready to dump!
[2016-12-08 23:37:58] mjones : yay
[2016-12-08 23:38:01] mjones : wow btc
[2016-12-08 23:38:07] mjones : what the
[2016-12-08 23:38:18] mjones : my username for each line
[2016-12-08 23:44:28] anonymous789 : mjones: really, you're really surprised? the btc market is so f-ing toppy right now...
[2016-12-08 23:46:39] anonymous789 : anyway support is at 5330-ish on cny
[2016-12-08 23:46:49] anonymous789 : it could bounce, or fall through the floor
[2016-12-08 23:47:47] arbitrage001 : yeah right
[2016-12-08 23:48:00] arbitrage001 : price will either go up or go down
[2016-12-08 23:48:04] arbitrage001 : or stay flat
[2016-12-08 23:49:22] brasska : could be a good rebuy < 5000 cny
[2016-12-08 23:50:17] anonymous789 : arbitrage001: i'm talking about the 5330 cny, i'm not making a general comment. Of course everything could go up, down or stay flat lol..
[2016-12-08 23:53:34] mjones : eth going for a new recent low
[2016-12-08 23:53:56] mjones : 30 hours since it has been this low
[2016-12-09 00:01:42] thiago : I have a position at 15x leverage, on actually 41x , thanks bitmex
[2016-12-09 00:02:03] thiago : its negative, so no thanks actually
[2016-12-09 00:03:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: Sell 540 @ 0.010470
[2016-12-09 00:09:55] arbitrage001 : thiago: high leverage on btc?
[2016-12-09 00:10:04] thiago : nope
[2016-12-09 00:10:07] thiago : 15x on eth
[2016-12-09 00:10:28] arbitrage001 : how long have you been trading
[2016-12-09 00:13:16] thiago : 7 years
[2016-12-09 00:13:47] shiroe : are you 7times more richer than 7 yrs ago?
[2016-12-09 00:13:52] arbitrage001 : must been doing very well then surviving high leverage
[2016-12-09 00:13:56] thiago : eth going down son
[2016-12-09 00:24:22] Dtrade16 : This ish dumped like 11% jez
[2016-12-09 00:34:10] cookielito : Gentlemen
[2016-12-09 00:34:20] cookielito : any day now we shall be the new elite
[2016-12-09 00:45:41] Cookielito : Hello
[2016-12-09 00:45:44] Cookielito : anybody home?
[2016-12-09 01:09:59] mjones : Eth news?
[2016-12-09 01:11:13] shiroe : someone closed a short. lels
[2016-12-09 01:16:58] mjones : ah makes sense
[2016-12-09 02:28:50] rapidtrades : now only $5 gap with CHINA
[2016-12-09 02:29:53] rapidtrades : still $21 gap with japan
[2016-12-09 02:30:47] micmix : bitcoin is dead (unless you are in Japan)
[2016-12-09 02:31:22] rapidtrades : micmix: how's ur book faggit?
[2016-12-09 02:32:23] micmix : already finished, it did not disappoint
[2016-12-09 02:33:11] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-12-09 02:34:13] rapidtrades : that guy who wanted to bet me on zcash never showed up again
[2016-12-09 02:34:26] rapidtrades : <0.01 by dec30 he said
[2016-12-09 02:34:33] arbitrage001 : micmix: what book is it again?
[2016-12-09 02:34:39] arbitrage001 : is there a movie version
[2016-12-09 02:34:43] rapidtrades : he won a car by shorting zec he said
[2016-12-09 02:34:47] micmix : rapidtrades: as expected
[2016-12-09 02:36:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.010680
[2016-12-09 02:37:41] micmix : rapidtrades: they are never here when it's time to put money where their mouth is
[2016-12-09 02:39:15] micmix : arbitrage001: it's Babylon's Ashes by James SA Corey. it's sixth book in The Expanse series, you have to start from the first one or watch The Expanse tv show
[2016-12-09 02:43:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: Buy 2 @ 0.010720
[2016-12-09 02:46:35] rapidtrades : what a weird rally
[2016-12-09 03:54:59] zanza : Triple top ?
[2016-12-09 03:57:30] l3f : eth is a joke
[2016-12-09 04:06:38] Rado : zanza: on what?
[2016-12-09 04:07:54] zanza : XBT longterm
[2016-12-09 04:07:56] zanza : idk
[2016-12-09 04:37:34] rapidtrades : u guys wanna create a reddit campaigh to promote zec?
[2016-12-09 04:38:17] rapidtrades : thats how shether got off the ground
[2016-12-09 04:40:09] rapidtrades : ''I'm sorry to bother you but I've been gravely concerned about the state of the bitcoin ecosystem. There's a new coin that solves these problems and its called zcash. Our motto is Cash just better''
[2016-12-09 04:42:51] rapidtrades : ''We have our developer Zuko. He knows many things, the best things. He will make Zcash great again''
[2016-12-09 04:43:03] Rado : rapidtrades: did you invest in ZEC?
[2016-12-09 04:43:08] l3f : rapidtrades: btw we are really despo to get out of our long positions, please buy ;_;
[2016-12-09 04:43:14] l3f : plz
[2016-12-09 04:43:20] l3f : catch the falling knife
[2016-12-09 04:43:21] l3f : plz
[2016-12-09 04:44:13] rapidtrades : l3f: that's an awful promo letter
[2016-12-09 04:44:21] Rado : lol
[2016-12-09 04:44:33] l3f : :^)
[2016-12-09 04:44:36] rapidtrades : u have to tell the customer what's in it forthem
[2016-12-09 04:45:05] l3f : rapidtrades: major losses?
[2016-12-09 04:45:26] l3f : pump it and they'll come
[2016-12-09 04:45:47] rapidtrades : ''We can't promise much but we aim for the stars, so even if we only get there partially, we will still hit the moon''
[2016-12-09 04:46:10] rapidtrades : ''Zcash the best investment since ether''
[2016-12-09 04:46:25] l3f : "and look at how well eth is doing today!"
[2016-12-09 04:47:59] rapidtrades : ''Our whale sleger says that Ether was his best investment ever, albeit still unrealized''
[2016-12-09 04:50:28] rapidtrades : ''Zcash better then ETH, endorsed by Sleger aka ''The 50 apartments whale''
[2016-12-09 04:51:14] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: you are a funny person
[2016-12-09 04:51:57] Rado : ha ha
[2016-12-09 04:52:00] Rado : that is funny
[2016-12-09 05:33:04] rapidtrades : who's still long BTC?
[2016-12-09 05:39:03] l3f : rapidtrades: me
[2016-12-09 05:39:09] l3f : 92k in a long
[2016-12-09 05:39:26] l3f : all my charts and tea leaf reading has help me build this position
[2016-12-09 05:41:23] l3f : ALWAYS BET ON BTC
[2016-12-09 05:42:47] l3f : Bitmex_Wally: https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory
[2016-12-09 05:42:50] l3f : search is broken
[2016-12-09 05:43:32] BitMEX_Wally : `{"symbol":"XBJ24H"}`
[2016-12-09 05:43:55] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: Type "XBT" in there no quotes
[2016-12-09 05:44:14] BitMEX_Wally : "XBT" is not a valid JSON object
[2016-12-09 05:44:31] l3f : Of course
[2016-12-09 05:44:41] l3f : I wasn't aware that box takes json objects
[2016-12-09 05:44:51] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah just click on a field on the table and it will filter by it
[2016-12-09 05:44:59] BitMEX_Wally : `{"symbol":"XBTUSD"}` for example
[2016-12-09 05:45:36] l3f : Ok I get this is a "feature" in a mongodb filters sort of way
[2016-12-09 05:45:40] l3f : but it is still super weird
[2016-12-09 05:45:56] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah, I'll see if we can improve the usability
[2016-12-09 05:45:57] l3f : I wanted to see how other XBTXXX futures settled at
[2016-12-09 05:46:27] BitMEX_Wally : Ok try `{"symbol.rootSymbol":"XBT"}`
[2016-12-09 05:46:58] l3f : Ah ty
[2016-12-09 05:47:07] BitMEX_Wally : or `{"symbol.rootSymbol":"XBT","settlementType":"Settlement"}`
[2016-12-09 07:47:02] mjones : Come on China. Don't stop now
[2016-12-09 07:50:20] Techemy : settlement in a few min
[2016-12-09 07:50:31] Techemy : http://getjumbucks.com/settlement/
[2016-12-09 07:50:48] rapidtrades : oh right...okc settlement
[2016-12-09 07:50:53] rapidtrades : i forgot about that shit
[2016-12-09 07:50:56] Techemy : shananigans
[2016-12-09 07:50:58] rapidtrades : used to be big
[2016-12-09 07:51:01] rapidtrades : now its shit
[2016-12-09 07:51:20] Techemy : still relevant
[2016-12-09 07:52:25] rapidtrades : yes u can tell cos prices moved $1 pat 30 mins
[2016-12-09 07:57:56] Techemy : well typically it's in the couple hours after that any moves happen
[2016-12-09 07:58:20] Techemy : i dunno, looks more relevant than stamp which seems to lag often
[2016-12-09 10:04:22] l3f : ZEC longs are approaching the despair event horizon
[2016-12-09 10:04:37] l3f : anymore punishment they'll do snap
[2016-12-09 10:04:44] l3f : they'll snap*
[2016-12-09 10:10:01] rms : looking for a double bottom at .06 and very strong resistance at .04 before we retest .1
[2016-12-09 10:10:46] rms : futures market here is so illiquid that if you think it bounces back from .06 .065 isn't a bad time to build a position if you can get the volume
[2016-12-09 11:27:04] anonymous789 : god btc is getting boring
[2016-12-09 11:28:06] anonymous789 : funding rate crap and sideways movement
[2016-12-09 11:59:55] l3f : ZEC pump happening
[2016-12-09 12:03:52] anonymous789 : looksl ike eth pumping too
[2016-12-09 12:04:34] kurkudu : looks like btc may go down
[2016-12-09 12:29:40] l3f : I thought I was going to get fucked betting on ZEC
[2016-12-09 12:29:42] l3f : rapidtrades:
[2016-12-09 12:29:50] l3f : but it's moving
[2016-12-09 12:29:53] l3f : in the right direction now
[2016-12-09 12:32:26] anonymous789 : this upward movement in btc is so weak
[2016-12-09 12:32:39] l3f : anonymous789: all is going according to plan my friend
[2016-12-09 12:32:49] anonymous789 : l3f: what's your plan?
[2016-12-09 12:33:01] l3f : anonymous789: https://www.tradingview.com/x/npLdpyQk/
[2016-12-09 12:33:04] l3f : this is my plan
[2016-12-09 12:33:08] l3f : been buying the dips
[2016-12-09 12:33:23] l3f : https://www.tradingview.com/x/bygGZ97J/
[2016-12-09 12:33:25] l3f : plan 2
[2016-12-09 12:34:00] anonymous789 : plans looking bearish
[2016-12-09 12:34:20] l3f : anonymous789: I expect a dip and moonward movement after
[2016-12-09 12:34:30] anonymous789 : same
[2016-12-09 12:35:12] anonymous789 : this trend channel will break to the downside on cny i think soon
[2016-12-09 12:35:52] l3f : I don't expect a breakout
[2016-12-09 12:36:00] l3f : literally nobody does
[2016-12-09 12:36:09] l3f : but that's what they want you to think
[2016-12-09 12:36:20] l3f : if you trade by the hour you'll going to be a very nervous man
[2016-12-09 12:36:26] l3f : if you trade by day you'll be very comfy
[2016-12-09 12:36:38] anonymous789 : l3f: yea i been holding this short position for about a week and a half now
[2016-12-09 12:42:05] l3f : whoever is longing that eth must be some of the bravest motherfuckers alive
[2016-12-09 12:44:15] omarabid : hi i have a question regarding fees
[2016-12-09 12:46:07] l3f : holy fuck zec is moving
[2016-12-09 12:46:27] l3f : praise jesus
[2016-12-09 12:46:31] l3f : rapidtrades: your salvation is here
[2016-12-09 12:47:29] omarabid : if i place a limit, i should get 0.025% right? but it shows i have a negative fee (short). is that because I'm short?
[2016-12-09 12:48:08] l3f : you get fee at in 7 hours
[2016-12-09 12:48:14] l3f : when new funding rate goes into effect
[2016-12-09 12:48:25] omarabid : no no i'm talking about eth 7D
[2016-12-09 12:48:29] omarabid : not the swap
[2016-12-09 12:48:37] l3f : oh nfi then
[2016-12-09 13:07:05] anonymous789 : well if btc closes in green this week, that's about 10 out of 11 weeks of straight pumping
[2016-12-09 13:15:22] Rekted : btc to the moon?
[2016-12-09 13:16:08] Rekted : he looks bullish
[2016-12-09 13:17:08] bingbongfly : Rekted: did you see the 400 btc buy wall at okcoin? got eaten quick
[2016-12-09 13:17:19] Rekted : yes
[2016-12-09 13:17:30] bingbongfly : Rekted: what do you think it means? bullish sign right?
[2016-12-09 13:17:42] bingbongfly : Rekted: woodchipper haha didn't notice :O
[2016-12-09 13:18:47] kurkudu : doesnt look bullish, strong correction is on the way
[2016-12-09 13:19:40] brouk : how low could the correction get what do you think?
[2016-12-09 13:20:16] l3f : brouk: zero
[2016-12-09 13:20:20] l3f : it will go negative first
[2016-12-09 13:20:30] rullwull : my estimation is below 5000 cny
[2016-12-09 13:20:42] brouk : zero is possible too
[2016-12-09 13:20:55] brouk : i think $750 is more likely thoug
[2016-12-09 13:21:06] kurkudu : even lower than 5000 cny
[2016-12-09 13:21:06] sleger : ohhh 750 is more likely than 0 ??
[2016-12-09 13:21:09] sleger : thank you genius
[2016-12-09 13:21:27] l3f : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/FRfx6tI5-Bitcoin-Megabull-Cycle-Starts-in-Less-than-24-Hours/
[2016-12-09 13:21:30] brouk : youre welcome
[2016-12-09 13:21:41] l3f : Sorry our top analysts have determined a thousand year bull cycle
[2016-12-09 13:21:46] anonymous789 : l3f: has to be a correction before the mega bull cycle
[2016-12-09 13:22:07] l3f : anonymous789: everything I post is in jest
[2016-12-09 13:22:13] anonymous789 : hehe
[2016-12-09 13:22:16] l3f : and should not constitute trading advice
[2016-12-09 13:22:27] anonymous789 : 750 is pretty strong support, but i think if it breaks it we could see 720 again
[2016-12-09 13:22:43] anonymous789 : on the daily it could go even lower
[2016-12-09 13:23:41] anonymous789 : eth pumping srs
[2016-12-09 13:24:01] l3f : >eth
[2016-12-09 13:24:15] l3f : more like death amiright?
[2016-12-09 13:24:23] sleger : bitmex really sucks for that, I was long 6k eth here, and then settlement happened, made me sell at 1068 and could never rebuy anywhere close
[2016-12-09 13:24:37] l3f : sleger: should petition for quaterlies
[2016-12-09 13:24:42] sleger : already did
[2016-12-09 13:24:52] l3f : sleger: how much capital are you trading with?
[2016-12-09 13:24:56] sleger : I even just asked that they list the new 7d 1d prior to expiry
[2016-12-09 13:25:01] sleger : few hundreds btc here
[2016-12-09 13:25:05] anonymous789 : eth will do better than bitcoin in the long term, there i said it.
[2016-12-09 13:25:34] l3f : sleger: how do you enter/exit positions without much slip?
[2016-12-09 13:25:46] l3f : this is a kiddy pool for 100+btcs
[2016-12-09 13:26:00] l3f : or do you not use margin at all
[2016-12-09 13:26:07] sleger : only take few hundreds of position
[2016-12-09 13:26:12] sleger : not much leverage
[2016-12-09 13:26:55] anonymous789 : man if i had whale money i'd not bother using leverage
[2016-12-09 13:27:30] l3f : nah, big whales are like 1m in capital
[2016-12-09 13:27:46] sleger : yes you would probably just leave all your bitcoins on bitfinex im sure @anonymous789
[2016-12-09 13:27:59] l3f : sleger: ah the classic mistake
[2016-12-09 13:28:23] anonymous789 : i've never used bitfinex
[2016-12-09 13:28:34] l3f : I made that mistake once
[2016-12-09 13:28:34] l3f : it hurt
[2016-12-09 13:28:37] l3f : but I've rebuilt
[2016-12-09 13:29:04] anonymous789 : but now you've got shares in bitfinex right so it's win/win?
[2016-12-09 13:29:26] sleger : i kept my tokens, i didnt convert
[2016-12-09 13:29:35] anonymous789 : sleger: that's what i would have done
[2016-12-09 13:30:25] l3f : sleger: how do you hedge against bitcoin price drops?
[2016-12-09 13:30:31] l3f : with that much xbt
[2016-12-09 13:30:40] sleger : just like anyone else
[2016-12-09 13:30:50] l3f : cry?
[2016-12-09 13:30:51] sleger : how is the quantity relevant ?
[2016-12-09 13:31:06] l3f : well you it drops 5% and you take a large hit to the balls don't you?
[2016-12-09 13:31:09] anonymous789 : sleger: do you think you're arrogant?
[2016-12-09 13:31:21] sleger : l3f: it hits 5% just like anyone else
[2016-12-09 13:31:31] sleger : anonymous789: i appear that way to inferior people I've been told
[2016-12-09 13:31:55] anonymous789 : who told you that?
[2016-12-09 13:32:07] sleger : other superior people
[2016-12-09 13:32:17] l3f : ONE TRUE ARYAN RACE
[2016-12-09 13:32:18] anonymous789 : oh so you're humble?
[2016-12-09 13:32:24] sleger : yes
[2016-12-09 13:32:34] anonymous789 : i see
[2016-12-09 13:32:40] sleger : l3f: i'm jewish
[2016-12-09 13:32:49] anonymous789 : sleger: jewish... of course
[2016-12-09 13:33:03] sleger : why of course ?
[2016-12-09 13:33:16] anonymous789 : it all makes sense
[2016-12-09 13:33:24] sleger : are you chinese ?
[2016-12-09 13:33:31] anonymous789 : i'm anonymous
[2016-12-09 13:33:34] anonymous789 : i am legion
[2016-12-09 13:33:36] sleger : it would make sense
[2016-12-09 13:33:37] anonymous789 : expect me
[2016-12-09 13:33:44] l3f : sleger: well that's awkard
[2016-12-09 13:34:06] anonymous789 : l3f: yes
[2016-12-09 13:34:42] anonymous789 : sleger: have you made all your wealth through crypto stuff?
[2016-12-09 13:34:50] sleger : no
[2016-12-09 13:35:04] l3f : anonymous789: just get a real job
[2016-12-09 13:35:05] l3f : save up for a year
[2016-12-09 13:35:08] l3f : live with your parents
[2016-12-09 13:35:35] l3f : literally you get minimum wage and you save 50k usd a year
[2016-12-09 13:35:43] l3f : and then you can be a whale as well
[2016-12-09 13:35:50] sleger : min wage is 50k a year ?
[2016-12-09 13:35:56] sleger : 50k is a whale ? lol
[2016-12-09 13:35:59] l3f : get two jobs
[2016-12-09 13:36:05] l3f : "whale"
[2016-12-09 13:36:11] anonymous789 : sleger: your arrogance knows no bounds :D
[2016-12-09 13:36:19] sleger : thanks
[2016-12-09 13:38:45] anonymous789 : minimum wage in the uk is like 12k GBP a year
[2016-12-09 13:39:01] sleger : sounds more reasonable
[2016-12-09 13:39:08] l3f : look you can suck some dicks on the side
[2016-12-09 13:39:08] l3f : jeeze
[2016-12-09 13:39:18] anonymous789 : geez
[2016-12-09 13:39:53] anonymous789 : sleger: you're not a proponent of minimum wage increase?
[2016-12-09 13:40:31] sleger : of course not, stupidest idea
[2016-12-09 13:41:17] anonymous789 : yeah the rich should get richer right?
[2016-12-09 13:41:37] l3f : anonymous789: nah the weak should fear the strong
[2016-12-09 13:41:52] anonymous789 : l3f: everyone is strong on the internet
[2016-12-09 13:42:04] l3f : you know what you are
[2016-12-09 13:42:12] anonymous789 : i am anonymous
[2016-12-09 13:42:14] anonymous789 : i am legion
[2016-12-09 13:42:16] anonymous789 : expect me
[2016-12-09 13:44:11] l3f : whoever's pumping ZEC you have my everlasting gratitude
[2016-12-09 13:44:44] l3f : bless is he who pumps ZEC at this fucking hour
[2016-12-09 13:46:07] sleger : anonymous789: no, the ones who work and deserve it should get the rewards, rich or poor
[2016-12-09 13:48:17] anonymous789 : the meek shall inherit the earth
[2016-12-09 13:48:53] anonymous789 : i'm wondering who is buying btc at these levels
[2016-12-09 13:48:58] anonymous789 : seems crazy
[2016-12-09 13:49:15] l3f : buy it now before it hits ATH
[2016-12-09 13:49:26] anonymous789 : FOMO ftw
[2016-12-09 13:51:53] l3f : everyone and their mom is pumping
[2016-12-09 13:52:09] anonymous789 : l3f: best time to sell then right
[2016-12-09 13:52:15] l3f : no
[2016-12-09 13:52:18] l3f : ride the wave
[2016-12-09 13:52:22] anonymous789 : when the 90% are doing something, do the opposite?
[2016-12-09 13:52:57] l3f : anonymous789: there will be a point when you're like damn it can't go any higher
[2016-12-09 13:52:58] l3f : and it'll move higher
[2016-12-09 13:53:04] l3f : and you're like fuck I need to buy
[2016-12-09 13:53:06] l3f : then we dump
[2016-12-09 13:53:19] l3f : we aren't there yet
[2016-12-09 13:53:22] anonymous789 : yeah that's the stock markets :D
[2016-12-09 13:53:56] anonymous789 : i bet the dow jones continues flying past 20k
[2016-12-09 14:21:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCZ16`: Buy 430 @ 5470.400000
[2016-12-09 14:24:38] rapidtrades : this stupid rally man
[2016-12-09 14:24:51] sleger : it wont stop before you buy
[2016-12-09 14:25:09] rapidtrades : im already net long jew
[2016-12-09 14:25:25] sleger : maybe but not much that's why you're upset
[2016-12-09 14:25:58] rapidtrades : yes i used 1/2 my usual size cos i didn't think it will go far
[2016-12-09 14:26:16] sleger : its going higher
[2016-12-09 14:26:39] rapidtrades : don't u think it's strange how it keeps going up while daily range stay small? look at the atr
[2016-12-09 14:26:46] anonymous789 : gonna touch 780 then collapse like the world trade center
[2016-12-09 14:27:24] rapidtrades : ATR peaked 25 days ago and its down since then
[2016-12-09 14:27:42] rapidtrades : its been flat for the last 10 days
[2016-12-09 14:28:11] sleger : atr = ?
[2016-12-09 14:28:15] anonymous789 : ATR getting flatter says to me that the longs are not very confident
[2016-12-09 14:28:23] anonymous789 : average true range
[2016-12-09 14:28:49] anonymous789 : this pump is just feeling so pathetic and weak
[2016-12-09 14:28:52] brouk : rapidtrades: where can i see ATR?
[2016-12-09 14:29:12] rapidtrades : sleger: ATR shows daily range, high to low basically
[2016-12-09 14:29:17] sleger : ok
[2016-12-09 14:29:39] anonymous789 : finally some kinda action now
[2016-12-09 14:29:46] rapidtrades : this is a copy of the rally last november, december, also on declinining atr
[2016-12-09 14:30:07] anonymous789 : this thing has been so boring
[2016-12-09 14:30:39] rapidtrades : brouk: trading view
[2016-12-09 14:30:50] anonymous789 : pretty solid rejection at the 5400 cny level
[2016-12-09 14:30:53] rapidtrades : and most charting packages
[2016-12-09 14:31:02] brouk : rapidtrades: ty
[2016-12-09 14:31:25] Velancry : when does the bull drop it balls
[2016-12-09 14:31:47] brouk : Velancry: when you go all in long
[2016-12-09 14:31:51] sleger : btcjpy going higher
[2016-12-09 14:31:58] sleger : dont ignore the yellow bitcoins
[2016-12-09 14:32:06] anonymous789 : sleger: that's racist
[2016-12-09 14:32:23] sleger : bitcoins dont have colors dummy
[2016-12-09 14:32:34] rapidtrades : colored coins do
[2016-12-09 14:32:38] sleger : you're the one making the racist assumption
[2016-12-09 14:32:42] anonymous789 : why can't we all just live in peace
[2016-12-09 14:32:45] rapidtrades : i mean african-american coins sorry
[2016-12-09 14:32:50] anonymous789 : we should all see in black and white
[2016-12-09 14:33:05] sleger : why you want to ignore the asians ?
[2016-12-09 14:33:20] anonymous789 : i never said anything about asians
[2016-12-09 14:33:33] sleger : you said only black and white
[2016-12-09 14:33:42] anonymous789 : you're making that assumption based on your own saying of yellow bitcoins which meansi was right about it being a racist comment
[2016-12-09 14:33:51] anonymous789 : well i mean black and white
[2016-12-09 14:33:53] anonymous789 : like the old tv
[2016-12-09 14:33:55] anonymous789 : tvs*
[2016-12-09 14:34:11] anonymous789 : not literally black skin and white skin
[2016-12-09 14:34:40] anonymous789 : we are all one humanity people
[2016-12-09 14:34:54] anonymous789 : (except for jews)
[2016-12-09 14:34:59] anonymous789 : j/k :D
[2016-12-09 14:36:00] rapidtrades : only $5 premium on china atm
[2016-12-09 14:36:20] anonymous789 : shooting star forming on XBT/USD?
[2016-12-09 14:36:23] anonymous789 : hourly*
[2016-12-09 14:36:42] rapidtrades : japan still buying like crazy
[2016-12-09 14:37:00] anonymous789 : shooting star also on cny i see?
[2016-12-09 14:44:06] Rado : anonymous789: don't look for signs of bearishness
[2016-12-09 14:44:11] Rado : just follow the price
[2016-12-09 14:44:47] Rado : analyzing it too much does not help
[2016-12-09 14:45:05] Rado : That's why I love bots
[2016-12-09 14:45:11] Rado : they remove all opinion
[2016-12-09 14:49:42] thiago : where can i get a bot?
[2016-12-09 14:49:59] rapidtrades : u can buy one from rado
[2016-12-09 14:50:26] thiago : I want the same model that won the anniversary contest lol
[2016-12-09 14:53:59] thiago : "Big Spender: Trader with the most Bitcoin turnover summed across all BitMEX products. The winning trader, Username: XBOT, traded 4,237.76 XBT during the 24 hour contest period." lol
[2016-12-09 15:01:32] anonymous789 : Rado: always analysing is how i do, since i don't use stop losses :P
[2016-12-09 15:02:23] Rado : that's fine, but you are always running a risk that you convince yourself of something that is not there
[2016-12-09 15:02:59] anonymous789 : essentially you run that risk every time you open a position though
[2016-12-09 15:04:56] rapidtrades : not if u have rules and stop loss
[2016-12-09 15:07:31] anonymous789 : stop losses and stringent rules come with their own problems though. For example, you could open a trade having analysed a move correctly but just after you open your position, the stop loss is hit and then the move goes in your favour but you've already lost
[2016-12-09 15:08:04] anonymous789 : that's actually why i don't use stop losses
[2016-12-09 15:10:21] Rado : anonymous789: that could happen, but you should not feel that you missed a trade
[2016-12-09 15:10:39] Rado : opportunities are always there
[2016-12-09 15:10:49] anonymous789 : it happened to me too much in the past, i've found more success not using a stop loss and relying on my analysis
[2016-12-09 15:11:10] Rado : you know every trader has different things that work for them
[2016-12-09 15:11:16] anonymous789 : my analysis isn't me massaging my own ego, if i feel the trend has reversed i'll close at loss
[2016-12-09 15:11:19] Rado : so yes there is no universal formula
[2016-12-09 15:11:34] anonymous789 : like
[2016-12-09 15:11:51] Rado : are you short now?
[2016-12-09 15:11:54] anonymous789 : i will close probably at 790ish
[2016-12-09 15:11:56] anonymous789 : yeah short
[2016-12-09 15:12:01] Rado : I am long
[2016-12-09 15:12:02] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-09 15:12:03] Rekted : Rado: yes he is shorting is mom
[2016-12-09 15:12:08] anonymous789 : but i personally don't feel it gets to 790
[2016-12-09 15:12:19] anonymous789 : before a quick correction
[2016-12-09 15:12:24] Rado : it's going a lot higher than 790
[2016-12-09 15:12:35] anonymous789 : eventually yes
[2016-12-09 15:12:35] Rekted : Rado: agree with u
[2016-12-09 15:12:57] Rado : if you are talking about today then yes
[2016-12-09 15:13:06] Rado : you don't know when a move will start
[2016-12-09 15:13:50] anonymous789 : like i said should it suddenly move to 790, i'll close and take the hit
[2016-12-09 15:14:04] anonymous789 : but i see a correction happening first
[2016-12-09 15:14:21] rapidtrades : anonymous789: when u don't use a sl you're just warehousing risk
[2016-12-09 15:14:41] rapidtrades : u miss out on few small losses but end up taking the big one up yo ass
[2016-12-09 15:15:02] thiago : exactly
[2016-12-09 15:15:12] anonymous789 : rapidtrades: true
[2016-12-09 15:15:39] anonymous789 : but like i said, the small losses strategy never really has worked for me in the past
[2016-12-09 15:18:35] Rado : anonymous789: why would you short before a break down?
[2016-12-09 15:18:56] Rado : I don't see anything that tells me there will be a correction
[2016-12-09 15:19:08] anonymous789 : really?
[2016-12-09 15:19:10] Rado : there might be, but you are jumping the gun and anticipating
[2016-12-09 15:19:26] anonymous789 : we're so toppy right now... none of these moves up have been confident
[2016-12-09 15:19:49] Rado : none of the moves down as well
[2016-12-09 15:19:54] rapidtrades : i agree with both of you :)
[2016-12-09 15:20:26] Rado : I am trading FX in the mean time :-)
[2016-12-09 15:20:40] Rado : rapidtrades: did you se USDJPY move
[2016-12-09 15:21:04] rapidtrades : define see
[2016-12-09 15:21:28] Rado : lol
[2016-12-09 15:21:37] Rado : 114.30 to 115.20
[2016-12-09 15:21:43] Rado : I guess you see it all
[2016-12-09 15:22:08] Rado : ETH longs at all time high
[2016-12-09 15:22:13] Rado : very interesting
[2016-12-09 15:22:20] rapidtrades : yeah still long usdjpy
[2016-12-09 15:22:42] rapidtrades : i don't really watch forex that closely since i mostly trade daily and up
[2016-12-09 15:22:49] brouk : anonymous789: when you dont use SL you are also wasting more time
[2016-12-09 15:23:28] Rado : how does he sleep?
[2016-12-09 15:23:59] rapidtrades : he prolly flats before bed
[2016-12-09 15:24:09] Rado : I guess
[2016-12-09 15:24:37] rapidtrades : i don't think i'll ever go back to intraday trading
[2016-12-09 15:24:55] rapidtrades : so much stress and chart watching
[2016-12-09 15:25:16] brouk : how long do you hold positions on average now?
[2016-12-09 15:25:49] rapidtrades : depends, from few days to 2-3 months sometimes
[2016-12-09 15:26:11] Rado : for me it's a few days
[2016-12-09 15:26:13] rapidtrades : if it keeps going in my favor i'll never close :)
[2016-12-09 15:26:20] Rado : when a move happens I get out
[2016-12-09 15:26:32] brouk : if you never close you also never profit
[2016-12-09 15:26:57] rapidtrades : in theory yes :) but all trends end eventually
[2016-12-09 15:29:27] Rado : S&P 500 keeps going
[2016-12-09 15:29:42] brouk : so is this mega bull run cycle a real thing?
[2016-12-09 15:29:57] Rado : no one knows
[2016-12-09 15:30:08] brouk : what do you think?
[2016-12-09 15:30:12] Rado : you can only say after the fact
[2016-12-09 15:30:28] brouk : well thats obvious
[2016-12-09 15:30:31] Rado : when BTC is at $1250 a bunch of people will say I told you so
[2016-12-09 15:30:46] Rado : the problem: they did not buy at 770 and sell at 1250
[2016-12-09 15:31:13] brouk : yeah the people who did wouldnt tell you
[2016-12-09 15:31:13] Rado : they just knew it will happen
[2016-12-09 15:31:29] brouk : knew? if they knew they would buy
[2016-12-09 15:31:31] Rado : it's one thing to have a feeling and another to tarde
[2016-12-09 15:31:51] Rado : most feeling people have it's just gas :-)
[2016-12-09 15:32:03] rapidtrades : sleger: PARIS DECLARES WAR ON RATS
[2016-12-09 15:32:17] rapidtrades : hide your chipmunk
[2016-12-09 15:32:25] Rado : ha ha
[2016-12-09 15:32:35] Rado : sleger lives in Paris?
[2016-12-09 15:32:46] Rado : I love Paris
[2016-12-09 15:32:52] rapidtrades : smtimes :) i think he's in London atm
[2016-12-09 15:33:27] rapidtrades : that was a bloomberg headline just now....
[2016-12-09 15:34:00] Rado : Bloomberg is very worried about the state of the rats
[2016-12-09 15:34:04] Rado : asholes
[2016-12-09 15:34:32] Rado : ETH at 0.01111
[2016-12-09 15:35:06] rapidtrades : Dollar surging, SP500 surging
[2016-12-09 15:35:13] Rado : I think I am going to double up my long on BTC
[2016-12-09 15:35:23] rapidtrades : markets really getting ahead of themselves on this Trump rally
[2016-12-09 15:35:29] Rado : based on anonymous789 being short
[2016-12-09 15:35:31] Rado : :-)
[2016-12-09 15:36:07] brouk : decision making out of trollbox? not recommended
[2016-12-09 15:36:30] Rado : it's a joke brouk
[2016-12-09 15:36:31] rapidtrades : technically it's against the trollbox
[2016-12-09 15:40:02] Rado : Bitstamp also raising funds on BnkToTheFuture ‏
[2016-12-09 15:40:36] rapidtrades : cmon rly?
[2016-12-09 15:41:10] rapidtrades : bitfinex still stuck at 28mil with 20mil own funds
[2016-12-09 15:41:25] Rado : https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/2-e99941df-c18a-4f94-b2f5-9877e809b5e4
[2016-12-09 15:42:11] rapidtrades : 2% equity for 1.1mil
[2016-12-09 15:42:26] rapidtrades : so total value 55mil...not outrageous like shitfinex
[2016-12-09 15:42:29] Rado : customer growth chart is interesting
[2016-12-09 15:42:45] Rado : in terms of more people are getting on the BTC train
[2016-12-09 15:43:00] Rado : rapidtrades: how much is Finex valuation
[2016-12-09 15:44:07] rapidtrades : 70mil for 40%
[2016-12-09 15:44:21] rapidtrades : so 175mil
[2016-12-09 15:44:30] rapidtrades : crazy for lawsuit timebomb
[2016-12-09 15:47:55] mjones : In 3 weeks the xbtz16 open contracts went up 1,300,000. And new one opens in 1 week (i think)
[2016-12-09 15:51:12] rullwull : the correction may take place during the last weeks of xbtz
[2016-12-09 15:51:31] mjones : most people will have closed their xbtz16 position by then
[2016-12-09 15:51:43] mjones : and opened in the new one
[2016-12-09 15:52:41] rullwull : if the correction starts its better to open longs for new quarterlies which will be available in one week
[2016-12-09 15:58:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: Sell 45000 @ 5437.500000
[2016-12-09 15:58:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCZ16`: Sell 615 @ 5431.700000
[2016-12-09 15:59:01] mjones : some bullish people on xbcz16 getting rekt
[2016-12-09 16:02:26] thiago : jeez